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on 5/24/01 7:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I post your comments? Om K Of course. Here's an attack on Curio you can post as well. ToS Cult Smear and Intimidation Tactics Alex Constantine Note: Scientology never stooped this low. Curio, a former social worker in San Diego and the topic of this exchange, has committed the offense of posting legal and military documents concerning Michael Aquino, the high priest of the Temple of Set in San Francisco and an accused child molester who was thrown out of the Army when a tribunal found the Presidio preschool childrens' allegations credible. In retaliation, she has been the subject of a cult smear campaign (she is described as a psychotic, fanatic, etc. who should have her hands cut off), just as I have been attacked by Alex Burns of Disinformation.Com, a pupil of Aquino's: From: People's Commissar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.satanism Subject: Re: Mr. Scratch!/Private information Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 06:21:08 -0400 Just cutting off her miserable hands should work. Maybe ripping out her tongue too. Yah, works great in churka countries where religious fanatic abound. -- Satanic Reds http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/ Unique - check it out! www.darktradition.com Member of the Satanic Council http://www.geocities.com/sataniccouncil/mainmenu.html Dark Doctrines part of Satanic Reds Org. http://www.apodion.com/vad/dark/ http://satanmuse.rules.it/ SLAVA NAM! POWER TO THE WORKING PEOPLE! anon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... No harm was done? Curio, the psychotic with her fantasies, caused untold harm, she ruined lives. She caused psychological damage to the families of the people she harassed and did this for years, including small children in those families. She ruined careers. She caused a woman to have to leave the country. Studies have even shown the change in neurochemistry in people who are stalked this way. And what of their wives and children? Curio should be executed. It's as simple as that, Curio should be executed to simply set an example. She should be given the death penalty for this damage. In the internet age, new laws have to be made. People can't be allowed to terrorize others in this way. I see on the COS files (lost the URL, sorry) some people said something about how the Cossers were always trying to get information on their members; some even admitted taking part in this To what end? For purposes of terror? Enough with this freedom of speech thing. Some things are more important, such as the right of a citizen to be safe. Corax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:9e9ah0$5jh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A web of intrigue The search for Curio leads cybersleuths down a twisted path By Mark Sauer September 24, 2000 Armed with a telephoto lens and a laptop computer with a hidden camera, Michelle Devereaux headed south from San Francisco on a mission to find Curio. Devereaux and her friend Barry camped out for hours at the computer lab in SDSU' s Love Library, Curio' s favorite place for launching salvos in her cyberspace campaign. Curio didn' t show. Just when Devereaux was about to give up, however, she spotted a trim, middle-aged woman with longish brown hair sitting amid the forest of computer terminals. Was it Curio? Devereaux had seen her once, even chatted with her briefly, on a reconnaissance tour of the computer lab a month before. But she had to be sure. She dispatched Barry with the laptop camera to a vacant machine across from their target with orders to start snapping surreptitiously. Then Devereaux took out a monocular so she could get a long-range view of what the woman was reading on her screen. Bingo! Devereaux hastily scribbled a note to Barry: It' s Curio! She' s reading an e-mail I sent her last night! She handed the note to the student sitting next to her: Would you please give this to that guy over there, the one with the baseball cap that says ' Psycho' ? The kid looked at her like she was crazy, but did as Devereaux requested. A dozen or more people from San Diego to Washington State and beyond -- all victims of Curio' s Internet missives -- had been trying to unmask the notorious cyber crusader for nearly five years. Now Devereaux had her in the cross hairs. But the photos wouldn' t be enough. She hatched a plan: Barry would wait out front with the telephoto lens. Devereaux would pick the right moment and approach Curio; she' d get spooked, head for the parking lot and Barry would photograph her license plate. Then they' d have her. It would have worked, too, if Barry hadn' t got bored waiting and gone back inside for a soda. Curio got away on that day last October. The photos of her from the secret camera weren' t that clear; nobody recognized the woman staring at the SDSU computer
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-Caveat Lector- I simply can't figure out what the fervor is about over Curio. I've read things about Aquino and Loftus, for example, elsewhere. Curio's internet posts are documented and factual. I also don't understand why the police would think it approrpiate to get invovled, as if she were a stalker. Does Aquino spend time suing John DeCamp? Aquino was mentioned in The Franklin Cover-Up more than once, and none too flatteringly. Does Loftus get worked up over Psychic Dictatorship where she is also mentioned non-flatteringly? Why the flurry over Curio? Samantha In a message dated 5/25/01 8:59:40 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May I post your comments? Om K Of course. Here's an attack on Curio you can post as well. ToS Cult Smear and Intimidation Tactics Alex Constantine Note: Scientology never stooped this low. Curio, a former social worker in San Diego and the topic of this exchange, has committed the offense of posting legal and military documents concerning Michael Aquino, the high priest of the Temple of Set in San Francisco and an accused child molester who was thrown out of the Army when a tribunal found the Presidio preschool childrens' allegations credible. In retaliation, she has been the subject of a cult smear campaign (she is described as a psychotic, fanatic, etc. who should have her hands cut off), just as I have been attacked by Alex Burns of Disinformation.Com, a pupil of Aquino's: A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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they are maintaining a file on her and if there' s enough evidence of cyberstalking and harassment, they may recommend that the district attorney file charges. California is one of the few states with an anti-cyberstalking law. It' s a very gray area, though, McCrary said. She hasn' t made any physical threats. Everything' s been done in a public forum. But pulling back the curtain on Curio to reveal Napolis has effectively stripped her of her power, Devereaux contends. That may be enough, Aquino said: Now that this person has been identified, that ' faceless' threat no longer exists. She is now just another woman with ' satanic ritual-abuse' sexual fantasies. Carol Hopkins likens Napolis to the mythical Japanese soldier stumbling out of the jungle still fighting World War II. Conspiracy theories about satanic-ritual abuse have been thoroughly discredited by reasonable people, but true believers remain. She said the Curio case boils down to a civil-rights issue: Do First Amendment rights of free speech trump the rights of those being accused of a crime (child molestation) to know their accuser' s identity? On the Internet now, you can say almost anything you want, and there' s nothing to stop you, Hopkins said. When we didn' t know who Curio was, she had power. To finally learn she' s a nobody, why even bother with her now? Of course Diana Napolis/Karen Curio Jones has her own opinion, posted on the Internet: This is still the United States and I believe it is wrong to try and censor speech just because you don' t like the message. Copyright 2000 Union-Tribune Publishing Co. -Original Message- From: Samantha L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Fwd: (about) Aquino SF Radio Broadcast -Caveat Lector- I simply can't figure out what the fervor is about over Curio. I've read things about Aquino and Loftus, for example, elsewhere. Curio's internet posts are documented and factual. I also don't understand why the police would think it approrpiate to get invovled, as if she were a stalker. Does Aquino spend time suing John DeCamp? Aquino was mentioned in The Franklin Cover-Up more than once, and none too flatteringly. Does Loftus get worked up over Psychic Dictatorship where she is also mentioned non-flatteringly? Why the flurry over Curio? Samantha In a message dated 5/25/01 8:59:40 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May I post your comments? Om K Of course. Here's an attack on Curio you can post as well. ToS Cult Smear and Intimidation Tactics Alex Constantine Note: Scientology never stooped this low. Curio, a former social worker in San Diego and the topic of this exchange, has committed the offense of posting legal and military documents concerning Michael Aquino, the high priest of the Temple of Set in San Francisco and an accused child molester who was thrown out of the Army when a tribunal found the Presidio preschool childrens' allegations credible. In retaliation, she has been the subject of a cult smear campaign (she is described as a psychotic, fanatic, etc. who should have her hands cut off), just as I have been attacked by Alex Burns of Disinformation.Com, a pupil of Aquino's: A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A mailto:HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor
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-Caveat Lector- Mae Brussell, who soon afterwards developed a rather nasty and fast-growing case of cancer. See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/mae.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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Silliness, this Satan stuff, if it weren't so gosh darn interesting and distracting. Peace, Preston Yahoo! Groups Sponsor www. Please let us stay on topic and be civil. To unsubscribe please go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs -Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Dear Preston, Thanks for info about the Aquino broadcast. I began writing a lengthy rebuttal of previous postings, but a summary might be handy, as we all have more important things to focus on. 1. Although journalistic objectivity has come under attack, the empirical procedures by which journalists gather and critically analyze information are still vital. These include multiple sources, avoiding _ad hominem_ (To The Man) and _Tu Quoque_ (You also) attacks, and making efforts to review primary documentation. They are careful, when discerning motives, not to Mind Read others (attributing knowledge to another's internal thoughts, feelings and motives). This is commonly called prejudice. From Michael Shermer's Why People Believe Weird Things: Pseudoscience, Superstition, and Other Confusions of Our Time (New York: W.H. Freeman and Company, 1997): It [these attacks] is a rhetorical device and has no argumentative value whatsoever. (Shermer, 56) Conspiracy theorists require no such training or credentials. The best have always been closer to investigative journalists, while the worst are on a slippery slope to Jacques Ellul's sociological propaganda. From Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes (New York: Vintage Books, 1973): Direct propaganda, aimed at modifying opinions and attitudes, must be preceded by propaganda that is sociological in character, slow, general, seeking to create a climate, an atmosphere of favourable preliminary attitudes. (Ellul, 15) Shermer also quotes psychologist Barry Singer (59) on problem-solving inadequecies: A. Immediately form a hypothesis and look only for examples to confirm it. B. Do not seek evidence to disprove the hypothesis. C. Are [sic] very slow to change the hypothesis even when it is obviously wrong. D. If the information is too complex, adopt overly-simple hypotheses or strategies for solutions. E. If there is no solution, if the problem is a trick and right and wrong is given at random, form hypotheses about coincidental relationships they observed. Causality is always found. The material in the radio report and Dan Rightmyer's research fails all five inadequecies. Causality is found, despite evidence to the contrary. This is common-sense for the majority of people, which is why Aquino has not been prosecuted. Some CIA-Drugs list people have assumed a superior attitude without critically examining their premises. From Dana Polan's Power and Paranoia: History, Narrative and the American Cinema 1940-1950 (New York: Columbia University Press, 1986): Propaganda assumes a certain adversarial position - vis-a-vis the people it sets out to convince. It simultaneously suggests that people are reasonable enough to follow the correct view but unreasonable enough to have allowed falsehoods to sway them temporarily. (Dana Polan, 56). Aquino's critics presume this, and when challenged, turn to _Ad Hominem_ attacks. This depends on their personal belief system: if Christian, then Satanism is false; if anti-intelligence community, then Aquino's military career is evidence of guilt-by-association (without examining it or how the intelligency community functions); if a pro-SRA therapist, then the allegations are probably correct, despite Aquino not being charged, and there being no forensic evidence that any abuse ever occurred. Propaganda codifies social, political, and moral standards. (Ellul, 163). The aim of modern propaganda is no longer to modify ideas, but to provoke action. (Ellul, 25). Who controls the framing/context thereby controls the debate: There is no reality that can exist outside an ideological framing; those elements of reality that an ideology ignores become non-realities with no force or substance. (Dana Polan, 46). 2. Aquino's critics have a Presupposition (silent assumption, unspoken paradigm) that because he is PSYOP-trained, he is automatically a liar. This is also a Complex Equivalence (that all PSYOP and propaganda is lying). PSYOP is used as an Over/Under-defined Term, without any reference to its history, military application, geopolitical realities or social institutions. In fact, PSYOP advances have been slowly adopted, and only after much debate. Aquino's writings have stressed the need for ethical training. Where is the forensic evidence? 3. The narrative relies on urban legends. Rumors begin with I read somewhere that . . . or I heard somewhere that . . . Before long the rumor becomes reality, as I know that . . . passes from person to person. Rumors _may_ be true, of course, but usually they are not. They do make for great tales, however. (Shermer, 51). Sole
