[CTRL] Here We Go Again
http://www.theamericancause.org/index.htm Here We Go Again Patrick J. BuchananDecember 10,Â2003 A close read of President Bush's November addresses at the National Endowment for Democracy in Washington and at the Whitehall Palace in London leads a traditionalist almost to despair. George Bush did not write this democratist drivel. This is the kind of messianic rhetoric he probably never heard before he became president. Who is putting these words in his mouth? For if George Bush truly intends to lead a "global democratic revolution," and convert not only Iraq but the whole Middle East to democracy, he has ceased to be a conservative and we are headed for endless conflicts, disappointments, disillusionment and tragedy. At London, he called a "commitment to the global expansion of democracy" both "the alternative to instability and to hatred and terror" and "the third pillar of our security." But before he wagers our security on a crusade for democracy, Bush should ask the hard questions no one seems to have asked before he invaded Iraq. Where in the Constitution is he empowered to go around the world destabilizing governments? Can he truly believe that by hectoring such autocracies as Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, America is more secure? Who comes to power if Mubarak goes in Cairo, the Saudi monarchy falls or Musharaff is ousted in Pakistan? If memory serves, the last wave of popular revolutions in the region gave us Nasser, Khadafi, Saddam and the Ayatollah. With $200 billion sunk into democratizing Iraq and Afghanistan, how many more wars does Bush think Americans will support before they decide to throw the interventionist Republicans out? Where did he get the idea we are insecure because the Islamic world is not democratic? The Islamic world has never been democratic. Yet, before we intervened massively there, our last threat came from Barbary pirates. Lest we forget, Muhammad Atta and his comrades did not plot their atrocities in the Sunni Triangle, but in Hamburg and Delray Beach. Surveys show that Islamic people bear a deep resentment of U.S. dominance of their region and our one-sided support for Israel. Interventionism is not America's solution, it is America's problem. It was our earlier intervention in the Gulf War and our huge footprint on the sacred soil of Saudi Arabia that lead directly to 9-11. They were over here because we were over there. If one-man, one-vote comes to Pakistan, what do we do if that nuclear nation supports a return of the Taliban? What do we do if the Iraqi regime that takes power after free elections tells us to pack up and get out, and declares the liberation of Kuwait and its return to the embrace of the motherland to be as vital to Baghdad as the return of Taiwan is to Beijing? Freedom, the president said, "must be chosen and defended by those who choose it." Exactly. Why not then let these Islamic peoples choose it on their own timetable and defend it themselves? It is "cultural condescension," says Bush, "to assume the Middle East cannot be converted to democracy. ... Perhaps the most helpful change we can make is to change in our own thinking." But if 22 of 22 Arab states are non-democratic, this would seem to suggest that this soil is not particularly conducive to growing the kind of democracies we raise in upper New England. This may be mulish thinking to the progressives at NED, but it may also be common sense. What support is there in history for the view that as we meddle in the affairs of foreign nations, we advance our security? How would we have responded in the 19th century if Britain had declared a policy of destabilizing the American Union until Andrew Jackson abolished slavery? "Liberty is both the plan of Heaven for humanity and the best hope for progress here on earth." Is it? Before democracy became our god, we used to believe that salvation was Heaven's plan for humanity, and Jesus Christ was the way, the truth and the life. The neocons have made democracy a god, but why is George W. Bush falling down and worshiping their golden calf? The last time we heard rhetoric like Bush's at NED and Whitehall Castle was the last time we were bogged down in a war. LBJ declared that America's goal was far loftier than saving South Vietnam. We were going to build a "Great Society on the Mekong." Like Woodrow Wilson, Bush has been converted to the belief that democracy is the cure for mankind's ills. But our Founding Fathers did not even believe in democracy. They thought they were creating a republic â a republic that would be secure by remaining free of the wars of the blood-soaked continent their fathers had left behind. How wrong they were.
[CTRL] Here we go again: "'Rockets' Fired in Area of Downed Jet?
-Caveat Lector- Source: News Max http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=1999/11/1/101212 Monday November 1, 11:07 AM "Rockets" Fired in Area of Downed Jet? Already the tragic flight of an EgyptAir jet is making news on the conspiracy mill. Perhaps even more so because of the seeming snap judgment of federal authorities who have downplayed any idea of a terrorist attack -- or worse. There is "no indication that any criminal act took place," Coast Guard Read Adm. Larabee was quoted yesterday as saying. How about holding an investigation before federal officials like Larabee make any presumptive judgment? And there is good reason to have an investigation. EgyptAir's Boeing 767 fell from the sky sometime early Sunday morning -- at about 2 a.m. Later Sunday morning, NewsMax.com editor Christopher Ruddy was on United flight #976, which departed JFK at 9:15 a.m. headed for London. At about 10 a.m., Ruddy put on his headset. He clicked through the music channels and tuned in to transmissions between his United plane and air traffic control in the United States. "Air traffic control was advising planes to change their flight paths, giving out new coordinates and altitudes for planes on the flight paths over the Atlantic," Ruddy recalled the conversation he overheard. "At one point, a crew member of one of the planes radioed air traffic control to ask why the change. Air traffic control responded that 'there are rockets being fired in the area.'" "I heard early that morning before boarding my plane that there was a missing EgyptAir plane," Ruddy said, "the conversation I heard on the plane really struck me, as did the controllers' use of the word 'rockets.'" There is no indication yet of any U.S. military activities in the area. Still, the suggestion that there was some military activity near the plane's flight path raises the specter of TWA 800. Critics of the government investigation have alleged U.S. naval vessels were in the area and may have accidentally fired a missile at the civilian jet. -- Kathleen Always remember your weapons system was made by the lowest bidder. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Here we go again....GMO?
-Caveat Lector- It seems the last century has been nothing more than a plan to hoard precious metals out of the countries of origin, and to lock down food and water...my question is: What happens when nobody produces food plants with viable seed? Will those things disappear altogether? B Kilgore Trout wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > This is interesting..."CLEARFIELD RICE" > > If they get this into RICE seed, then what will happen? > > As I take it, this is spearheaded by American Cyanamid. > > Here is the memo I was sent: I am in the Farming/Seed Industry. > > ** > > What is a GMO and a non-GMO ? > GMO = Genetically Modified Organism > > * The herbicide tolerance trait in Cyanamid's Clearfield* rice > crop is derived from a naturally occurring resistant line developed, > identified, and patented at the LSU Ag Center by Dr, Tim Croughan using > traditional and enhanced breeding techniques. Because they contain NO > foreign genetic material ( DNA ) they are considered NON-GMO... So > Clearfield rice is a Non GMO...This was discovered in 1993 by Tim > Croughan at LSU . He found a single rice plant in a haystack of millions > that showed after application of IMI the plant could break down the > active ingredient > > * Any plant derived from a process whereby foreign DNA is inserted > into the genome of the plant is considered a genetically modified > organism or GMO... > > What production changes will we see with this new technology that will > give the farmer more flexibility from the start of the growing season... > > 1. Mudding it in may go the way of the dinosaurs. > Discontinuing the practice of trying to bury red rice seed in flooded > fields has a lot of benefits. When the farmer puts his equipment into > the field and works in the water, that's the worse thing you can do with > a tractor due to reducing the life of everything on the tractor.. > > 2. When chemical control of red rice arrives, growers will > be able to choose water seeding or dry seeding and put more money on > the bottom line.. In Southwest Louisiana, Water seeding costs 5% more > and yields are reduced by 5% ; > farmers use roughly 100 lbs of seed with drill seeding and > 150 lbs of seed with water > seeding. > > 3. Flexibility in application of herbicides with Clearfield > rice is another plus. Right now we have a narrow window when most of our > herbicides are applied. For example, Propanil must be applied when the > weeds are very small and re-flooded within a 3-5 day period to maintain > grass control...On Clearfield rice, growers will make a Premerge or > Preplant soil application and the residual control will give the > producer a month or more to apply the sequential treatment of > Clearfield* herbicide (with or without a tank-mix partner depending on > weed spectrum). The application of a pre-plant incorporated or > pre-emerge followed by a pre-flood application ( 4 to 5 leaf rice) is > likely to give the best weed control. So far in the research we have > seen, you will get 85% control of red rice and most weeds and grasses > with just the preplant or premerge application and then the preflood > application will finalize your weed control plus reduce the possibility > of cross pollination of red rice. The weak areas in weed control have > been sedges, coffeebean, and joint vetch but different tank mixes have > been giving us good control. In 1999, an extensive research program is > being conducted by State Universities and Cyanamid's researchers on the > herbicide rate, application timing, climatic influences, soil type > influences, and the weed control spectrum. > > 4. This flexibility will give you better use of your > irrigation investments - With Propanil, you need to flood up within 3 > days, whereas with Clearfield, you've got the next few weeks. So a well > that formerly could have flooded up 200 acres in 3 days can now flood > 600 acres in 9 days and not have red rice or grassYou can hold off > pumping water and allow rainfall to supply part of your irrigation > needs. If growers could cut well use by 1/3, they could save $ 15 to $ > 20 per acre... > > 5. Herbicide resistant rice technologies could potentially > reduce insecticide treatments for rice water weevil. Delaying flood and > relying on chemical weed control could keep rice water weevil larvae > from damaging seedling roots. If you delay flood for 2 or 3 weeks, you > can get the same effect as if you applied a treatment of Furadan. > > 6. Control of red rice could change crop rotation and > expand rice acreage. It could enable farmers with certain soil types to > have greater flexibility. We have about 3 million acres of rice in the > U.S. but we have 6 million acres of land that is suitable for rice. At > least ½ of that 6 million acres is in soybeans or another crop each > yea
[CTRL] Here we go again....GMO?
-Caveat Lector- This is interesting..."CLEARFIELD RICE" If they get this into RICE seed, then what will happen? As I take it, this is spearheaded by American Cyanamid. Here is the memo I was sent: I am in the Farming/Seed Industry. ** What is a GMO and a non-GMO ? GMO = Genetically Modified Organism * The herbicide tolerance trait in Cyanamid's Clearfield* rice crop is derived from a naturally occurring resistant line developed, identified, and patented at the LSU Ag Center by Dr, Tim Croughan using traditional and enhanced breeding techniques. Because they contain NO foreign genetic material ( DNA ) they are considered NON-GMO... So Clearfield rice is a Non GMO...This was discovered in 1993 by Tim Croughan at LSU . He found a single rice plant in a haystack of millions that showed after application of IMI the plant could break down the active ingredient * Any plant derived from a process whereby foreign DNA is inserted into the genome of the plant is considered a genetically modified organism or GMO... What production changes will we see with this new technology that will give the farmer more flexibility from the start of the growing season... 1. Mudding it in may go the way of the dinosaurs. Discontinuing the practice of trying to bury red rice seed in flooded fields has a lot of benefits. When the farmer puts his equipment into the field and works in the water, that's the worse thing you can do with a tractor due to reducing the life of everything on the tractor.. 2. When chemical control of red rice arrives, growers will be able to choose water seeding or dry seeding and put more money on the bottom line.. In Southwest Louisiana, Water seeding costs 5% more and yields are reduced by 5% ; farmers use roughly 100 lbs of seed with drill seeding and 150 lbs of seed with water seeding. 3. Flexibility in application of herbicides with Clearfield rice is another plus. Right now we have a narrow window when most of our herbicides are applied. For example, Propanil must be applied when the weeds are very small and re-flooded within a 3-5 day period to maintain grass control...On Clearfield rice, growers will make a Premerge or Preplant soil application and the residual control will give the producer a month or more to apply the sequential treatment of Clearfield* herbicide (with or without a tank-mix partner depending on weed spectrum). The application of a pre-plant incorporated or pre-emerge followed by a pre-flood application ( 4 to 5 leaf rice) is likely to give the best weed control. So far in the research we have seen, you will get 85% control of red rice and most weeds and grasses with just the preplant or premerge application and then the preflood application will finalize your weed control plus reduce the possibility of cross pollination of red rice. The weak areas in weed control have been sedges, coffeebean, and joint vetch but different tank mixes have been giving us good control. In 1999, an extensive research program is being conducted by State Universities and Cyanamid's researchers on the herbicide rate, application timing, climatic influences, soil type influences, and the weed control spectrum. 4. This flexibility will give you better use of your irrigation investments - With Propanil, you need to flood up within 3 days, whereas with Clearfield, you've got the next few weeks. So a well that formerly could have flooded up 200 acres in 3 days can now flood 600 acres in 9 days and not have red rice or grassYou can hold off pumping water and allow rainfall to supply part of your irrigation needs. If growers could cut well use by 1/3, they could save $ 15 to $ 20 per acre... 5. Herbicide resistant rice technologies could potentially reduce insecticide treatments for rice water weevil. Delaying flood and relying on chemical weed control could keep rice water weevil larvae from damaging seedling roots. If you delay flood for 2 or 3 weeks, you can get the same effect as if you applied a treatment of Furadan. 6. Control of red rice could change crop rotation and expand rice acreage. It could enable farmers with certain soil types to have greater flexibility. We have about 3 million acres of rice in the U.S. but we have 6 million acres of land that is suitable for rice. At least ½ of that 6 million acres is in soybeans or another crop each year...Instead of rotating to another crop, rice growers could rotate to another type of herbicide resistant rice - they could rotate between Clearfield rice, Liberty Link rice, and Roundup Ready rice. QUESTIONS and ANSWERS ABOUT CLEARFIELD* RICE How will Cyanamid manage the distribution of CLEARFIELD* Rice ? Cyanamid is working closely with public university rice seed breeding programs for the development of IMIDAZOLINONE TOLERANT "CLEARFIELD*" RICE . However, th
