Re: [CTRL] Here we go again....GMO?

1999-07-21 Thread Bill

 -Caveat Lector-

It seems the last century has been nothing more than a plan
to hoard precious metals out of the countries of origin, and
to lock down food and water...my question is: What happens
when nobody produces food plants with viable seed?  Will
those things disappear altogether?
B

Kilgore Trout wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 This is interesting..."CLEARFIELD RICE"

 If they get this into RICE seed, then what will happen?

 As I take it, this is spearheaded by American Cyanamid.

 Here is the memo I was sent:  I am in the Farming/Seed Industry.

 **

 What is a GMO and a non-GMO ?
 GMO = Genetically Modified Organism

 *   The herbicide tolerance trait in Cyanamid's Clearfield* rice
 crop is derived from a naturally occurring resistant line developed,
 identified, and patented at the LSU Ag Center by Dr, Tim Croughan using
 traditional and enhanced breeding techniques. Because they contain NO
 foreign genetic material ( DNA ) they are considered NON-GMO... So
 Clearfield rice is a Non GMO...This was discovered in 1993 by Tim
 Croughan at LSU . He found a single rice plant in a haystack of millions
 that showed after application of IMI the plant could break down the
 active ingredient

 *   Any plant derived from a process whereby foreign DNA is inserted
 into the genome of the plant is considered a genetically modified
 organism or GMO...

 What  production changes will we see with this new technology that will
 give the farmer more flexibility from the start of the growing season...

 1.  Mudding it in may go the way of the dinosaurs.
 Discontinuing  the practice of trying to bury red rice seed in flooded
 fields has a lot of  benefits. When the farmer puts his equipment into
 the field and works in the water, that's the worse thing you can do with
 a tractor due to reducing the life of everything on the tractor..

 2.  When chemical control of red rice arrives, growers will
 be able to choose  water seeding or dry seeding and put more money on
 the bottom line.. In Southwest Louisiana, Water seeding costs 5% more
 and  yields are reduced by 5% ;
   farmers use roughly 100 lbs of seed with drill seeding and
 150 lbs of seed with water
   seeding.

 3.  Flexibility in application of herbicides with Clearfield
 rice is another plus. Right now we have a narrow window when most of our
 herbicides are applied. For example, Propanil must be applied when the
 weeds are very small and re-flooded within a 3-5 day period to maintain
 grass control...On Clearfield rice, growers will make a Premerge  or
 Preplant soil application and the residual control will give the
 producer a month or more to apply the sequential treatment of
 Clearfield* herbicide (with or without a tank-mix partner depending on
 weed spectrum).   The application of a pre-plant incorporated or
 pre-emerge followed by a pre-flood application (  4 to 5 leaf rice) is
 likely to give the best weed control. So far in the research we have
 seen, you will get 85% control of red rice and most weeds and grasses
 with just the preplant or premerge application  and then the preflood
 application will finalize your weed control plus reduce the possibility
 of cross pollination of red rice. The weak areas in weed control have
 been sedges, coffeebean, and joint vetch but different  tank mixes  have
 been giving us good control. In 1999,  an extensive research program is
 being conducted by State Universities and Cyanamid's researchers on the
 herbicide rate, application timing, climatic influences, soil type
 influences, and the weed control spectrum.

 4.  This flexibility will give you better use of your
 irrigation investments - With Propanil, you need to flood up within 3
 days, whereas with Clearfield, you've got the next few weeks. So a well
 that formerly could have flooded up 200 acres in 3 days can now flood
 600 acres in 9 days and not have red rice or grassYou can hold off
 pumping water and allow  rainfall to supply part of your irrigation
 needs. If growers could cut well use by  1/3, they could save $ 15 to $
 20 per acre...

 5.  Herbicide resistant rice technologies could potentially
 reduce insecticide treatments for rice water weevil. Delaying flood and
 relying on chemical weed control could keep rice water weevil larvae
 from damaging seedling roots. If you delay flood for 2 or 3 weeks, you
 can get the same effect as if you applied a treatment of Furadan.

 6.  Control of red rice could change crop rotation and
 expand rice acreage. It could enable farmers with certain soil types to
 have greater flexibility.  We have about 3 million acres of rice in the
 U.S. but we have 6 million acres of land that is suitable for rice. At
 least ½ of that 6 million acres is in soybeans or another crop each
 year...Instead of rotating to another crop, rice growers could rotate to
 another type of 

[CTRL] Here we go again....GMO?

1999-07-20 Thread Kilgore Trout

 -Caveat Lector-

This is interesting..."CLEARFIELD RICE"

If they get this into RICE seed, then what will happen?

As I take it, this is spearheaded by American Cyanamid.

Here is the memo I was sent:  I am in the Farming/Seed Industry.

**

What is a GMO and a non-GMO ?
GMO = Genetically Modified Organism

*   The herbicide tolerance trait in Cyanamid's Clearfield* rice
crop is derived from a naturally occurring resistant line developed,
identified, and patented at the LSU Ag Center by Dr, Tim Croughan using
traditional and enhanced breeding techniques. Because they contain NO
foreign genetic material ( DNA ) they are considered NON-GMO... So
Clearfield rice is a Non GMO...This was discovered in 1993 by Tim
Croughan at LSU . He found a single rice plant in a haystack of millions
that showed after application of IMI the plant could break down the
active ingredient

*   Any plant derived from a process whereby foreign DNA is inserted
into the genome of the plant is considered a genetically modified
organism or GMO...

What  production changes will we see with this new technology that will
give the farmer more flexibility from the start of the growing season...

1.  Mudding it in may go the way of the dinosaurs.
Discontinuing  the practice of trying to bury red rice seed in flooded
fields has a lot of  benefits. When the farmer puts his equipment into
the field and works in the water, that's the worse thing you can do with
a tractor due to reducing the life of everything on the tractor..


2.  When chemical control of red rice arrives, growers will
be able to choose  water seeding or dry seeding and put more money on
the bottom line.. In Southwest Louisiana, Water seeding costs 5% more
and  yields are reduced by 5% ;
  farmers use roughly 100 lbs of seed with drill seeding and
150 lbs of seed with water
  seeding.


3.  Flexibility in application of herbicides with Clearfield
rice is another plus. Right now we have a narrow window when most of our
herbicides are applied. For example, Propanil must be applied when the
weeds are very small and re-flooded within a 3-5 day period to maintain
grass control...On Clearfield rice, growers will make a Premerge  or
Preplant soil application and the residual control will give the
producer a month or more to apply the sequential treatment of
Clearfield* herbicide (with or without a tank-mix partner depending on
weed spectrum).   The application of a pre-plant incorporated or
pre-emerge followed by a pre-flood application (  4 to 5 leaf rice) is
likely to give the best weed control. So far in the research we have
seen, you will get 85% control of red rice and most weeds and grasses
with just the preplant or premerge application  and then the preflood
application will finalize your weed control plus reduce the possibility
of cross pollination of red rice. The weak areas in weed control have
been sedges, coffeebean, and joint vetch but different  tank mixes  have
been giving us good control. In 1999,  an extensive research program is
being conducted by State Universities and Cyanamid's researchers on the
herbicide rate, application timing, climatic influences, soil type
influences, and the weed control spectrum.

4.  This flexibility will give you better use of your
irrigation investments - With Propanil, you need to flood up within 3
days, whereas with Clearfield, you've got the next few weeks. So a well
that formerly could have flooded up 200 acres in 3 days can now flood
600 acres in 9 days and not have red rice or grassYou can hold off
pumping water and allow  rainfall to supply part of your irrigation
needs. If growers could cut well use by  1/3, they could save $ 15 to $
20 per acre...

5.  Herbicide resistant rice technologies could potentially
reduce insecticide treatments for rice water weevil. Delaying flood and
relying on chemical weed control could keep rice water weevil larvae
from damaging seedling roots. If you delay flood for 2 or 3 weeks, you
can get the same effect as if you applied a treatment of Furadan.


6.  Control of red rice could change crop rotation and
expand rice acreage. It could enable farmers with certain soil types to
have greater flexibility.  We have about 3 million acres of rice in the
U.S. but we have 6 million acres of land that is suitable for rice. At
least ½ of that 6 million acres is in soybeans or another crop each
year...Instead of rotating to another crop, rice growers could rotate to
another type of herbicide resistant rice - they could rotate between
Clearfield rice, Liberty Link rice, and Roundup Ready rice.


QUESTIONS and ANSWERS
 ABOUT
 CLEARFIELD* RICE



How will Cyanamid manage the distribution of CLEARFIELD*  Rice ?
Cyanamid is working closely with public university rice seed breeding
programs for the development of IMIDAZOLINONE TOLERANT "CLEARFIELD*"
RICE .  However,