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-Caveat Lector- From: "Guitar Virtuoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > And all this merely because some of us more enlightened and intelligent ones > simply CHOOSE, yes CHOOSE, that's still our right and privilege even though > June et al believe it's not so, but yes, WE the sensible FEW CHOOSE to LAUGH > at the COMICAL escapades of the likes of Duncan and his bombastic > money-grubbing self-promotion here. I guess while Nexus fleeces the > gullible and credulous, at least it keeps Duncan off the Welfare queue - > unlike most of his ilk, and stupid, half-witted neo-Nazi readership. If you really believe that, then why are you continuing to help promote the magazine with your continued haranges against Duncan and NEXUS? Hm? ;-) June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Takes one to know one, David --- Guitar Virtuoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > OH! Deary me Mr T ... seems you have dear little old Dunnycan ... I > mean > Duncan all lathered-up and nowhere to rinse again. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Duncan's obvious attempt to advertise his magazine by > creating controversy around his posts...even when there > was no real controversy extant. If this is true, then why are you helping him out by continuing to post these harangues about him? Hmm? ;-) June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- >Duncan Roads sometimes brings many of the problems upon himself by >his somewhat combatative attitude. I eventually banned him from IUFO >because he contributed to so many incidents especially with his attack on >soy products, and on vegetarians who believed that soy is beneficial to >health if eaten in moderation. He often accused some us of being under the >control of the agrobusiness (ADM, etc.) and accused me of basically being >an ogre etc. Well that is one side of the story. The other side is that several list readers, especially the owner, Steve himself, took exception that someone dared to provide proof that soya products are not all that they are cracked up to be. For the record Steve kicked me off for daring to keep questioning why soy products were 'off topic'. For some reason, list members are not allowed to question what is 'off topic' or what is 'on topic'. I received a stern emailed warning about this important issue! My 'removal' was protested by some of Steve's own moderators at the time, and many list members privately emailed me saying that they thought Steve was acting very unfairly on personal grudge. I had already been 'warned' to 'roll over and don't criticise Steve' by other list members. As you gather, I ignored them and got kicked off. I was not overly aggro, Steve was, and anyone who cares to read the records can see that we both acted like two school-kids in a sandpit. Steve would post inflamatory remarks about my posts and vice versa, until finally he could take it no longer. Since Steve Wingate is God in his list-kingdom he removed a challenge to his 'authority'. >He is probably really a nice guy who has become somewhat jaded and >hardened by the attacks on his publication which often has controversial >conspiracy-based points of view, many of which I agree with. Many of us >know how easily this can happen. ;-| > >Be kind to him. At least they don't kick people off here for taking up challenging positions to the moderator. But, on the plus side, at least I had the opportunity to get into brass tack details on the subject at hand (even if it was off topic in my opinion - I mean-Soy Health being discussed on a UFO list?). Steve certainly did not draw away from the issue at hand, unlike some of the cockroaches on this list who just smear instead of debate. For what it is worth, as much as I think Steve acted in a juvenile fashion by removing my dissenting voice, I admire people like Steve, who, despite their idiosyncracies, get off their butts and make a difference in the world. And Steve, to this day we get lots of people from all around the world contacting us, thanking us for alerting them to what was causing their ill health. The number of personal testimonies is ongoing evidence that soy products are causing major health problems amongst many many people. Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Advertising in the name of a martyrdom.
-Caveat Lector-
Duncan Roads sometimes brings many of the problems upon himself by
his somewhat combatative attitude. I eventually banned him from IUFO
because he contributed to so many incidents especially with his attack on
soy products, and on vegetarians who believed that soy is beneficial to
health if eaten in moderation. He often accused some us of being under the
control of the agrobusiness (ADM, etc.) and accused me of basically being
an ogre etc.
He is probably really a nice guy who has become somewhat jaded and
hardened by the attacks on his publication which often has controversial
conspiracy-based points of view, many of which I agree with. Many of us
know how easily this can happen. ;-|
Be kind to him.
ISteve
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Re: [CTRL] Advertising in the name of a martyrdom.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/13/00 7:56:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >You might wanna give it a rest T ... else Milligan will get pissy that >you > >don't kowtow to his sycophantic plebes (ggg) Yeah, he might, see ya and your trolls another day. Om k Om k http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Advertising in the name of a martyrdom.
-Caveat Lector- >OH! Deary me Mr T ... seems you have dear little old Dunnycan ... I mean >Duncan all lathered-up and nowhere to rinse again. > >And ... hmmm ... Yes - odd that? It's always the ones censoring others >here that immediately bleat "censorship" when their baloney is challenged. > >June seems usually the one with this addiction to quickly run at mouth with >her cliché-ridden "censorship" mewling - think she might be one a them >MAN-HATERS, and like our girlie-boy Duncan, ever paranoid and whining about >some type of VICTIM-hood. > >It's almost like some sacerdotal drag show here at times where some, like >loony Duncan et al, appoint themselves as some priestly caste to their >sacred Conspiracy Theory Temple, and no one can approach their sanctimonious >waffle without immediate anathema's being hurled upon you for not towing >their particular psychotic and paranoid party line. > >And all this merely because some of us more enlightened and intelligent ones >simply CHOOSE, yes CHOOSE, that's still our right and privilege even though >June et al believe it's not so, but yes, WE the sensible FEW CHOOSE to LAUGH >at the COMICAL escapades of the likes of Duncan and his bombastic >money-grubbing self-promotion here. I guess while Nexus fleeces the >gullible and credulous, at least it keeps Duncan off the Welfare queue - >unlike most of his ilk, and stupid, half-witted neo-Nazi readership. > >You might wanna give it a rest T ... else Milligan will get pissy that you >don't kowtow to his sycophantic plebes (ggg) Smear on David, I can tell from the rise in your shrillness that you're running out of pills. Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Advertising in the name of a martyrdom.
-Caveat Lector- OH! Deary me Mr T ... seems you have dear little old Dunnycan ... I mean Duncan all lathered-up and nowhere to rinse again. And ... hmmm ... Yes - odd that? It's always the ones censoring others here that immediately bleat "censorship" when their baloney is challenged. June seems usually the one with this addiction to quickly run at mouth with her cliché-ridden "censorship" mewling - think she might be one a them MAN-HATERS, and like our girlie-boy Duncan, ever paranoid and whining about some type of VICTIM-hood. It's almost like some sacerdotal drag show here at times where some, like loony Duncan et al, appoint themselves as some priestly caste to their sacred Conspiracy Theory Temple, and no one can approach their sanctimonious waffle without immediate anathema's being hurled upon you for not towing their particular psychotic and paranoid party line. And all this merely because some of us more enlightened and intelligent ones simply CHOOSE, yes CHOOSE, that's still our right and privilege even though June et al believe it's not so, but yes, WE the sensible FEW CHOOSE to LAUGH at the COMICAL escapades of the likes of Duncan and his bombastic money-grubbing self-promotion here. I guess while Nexus fleeces the gullible and credulous, at least it keeps Duncan off the Welfare queue - unlike most of his ilk, and stupid, half-witted neo-Nazi readership. You might wanna give it a rest T ... else Milligan will get pissy that you don't kowtow to his sycophantic plebes (ggg) - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 8:58 AM Subject: [CTRL] Advertising in the name of a martyrdom. > -Caveat Lector- > > Previous thread: ---big group hug--- > > Hello everyone, > > While Duncan and June are quick to label my > protest as "censorship," the fact of the matter is > that this guy's first several posts were nothing > more than the over-exaggerated complaining > of a wannabe victim...with an advertisement > for his magazine conveniently connected to it. > > Duncan's first posts to this list had very little to do with any > conspiracy at all. His posts were a purposeful and reckless > lashing out against whoever might have done wrong by > Duncan -- by means of not purchasing his magazine > or buying off onto the ideas perpetuated by it. > > Duncan also accused people like myself of having ulterior > motives -- as he has also assumed that we dislike of his work. > > In my case, nothing could be further from the truth. I am aware > of the existence of the magazine in question, but I have not > really read it well enough to have an opinion of it. > > In fact, the greatest amount of writing that I have read by > Duncan's magazine's contributors, happens to be his own > bellyaching on this list. > > And this fact was the initial burr under the saddle: > > Duncan's obvious attempt to advertise his magazine by > creating controversy around his posts...even when there > was no real controversy extant. > > Advertising as a victim is controversial, but it is hardly > controversial from a conspiracy point of view. How much > more likely it is, that even an outright advertisement would > be preferred to the attempt at cloaking commercials under > the guise of "everybody picks on me and my magazine." > > If Duncan has a REAL conspiracy to talk about; if he has > a REAL issue to discuss; then so be it...but enough already > of this shameless advertising in the name of martyrdom. > > Tsadowq > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screed
Re: [CTRL] Advertising in the name of a martyrdom.
-Caveat Lector- >If Duncan has a REAL conspiracy to talk about; if he has >a REAL issue to discuss; then so be it...but enough already >of this shameless advertising in the name of martyrdom. > >Tsadowq As I said before, I WAS discussing an issue raised on this list, the issue regarding a 'new age conspiracy to kill all the Jews'. You and others interjected with personal attacks on NEXUS and myself. I asked why, and have repeatedly offered to discuss topics, articles or issues with you. You dodge all such offers, and instead resort to careful distortion and outright smear. NEXUS is NOT on any fascist, socialist, new age or anti-religious agenda. If you had bothered to read anything in the magazine you would know this. My postings and prescence are NOT shameless advertising. This is simply your latest 'tactic' to discourage interest and support for magazines like mine. But then that is your 'job' isn't it? When I look at your postings on this list, I see nothing but smear, attacks and criticism of genuine researchers. What sort of agenda are YOU on then? Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Advertising in the name of a martyrdom.
-Caveat Lector- >Duncan's first posts to this list had very little to do with any >conspiracy at all. His posts were a purposeful and reckless >lashing out against whoever might have done wrong by >Duncan -- by means of not purchasing his magazine >or buying off onto the ideas perpetuated by it. Not only are you a coward, but you are also sloppy. IF you had cared to check, I entered the fray in response to someone's posting that the 'entire new age movement' is out to kill all Jews. I felt I had ample qualifications to comment, and I did. After a couple of to and fro posts, you and your other fascist cronies started smearing myself and NEXUS. But you don't let accuracy get in the way of a good smear do you? Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
