Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- So June I have had the biggest insult levied against me as of late..C. of BooHoo believes you and I are the same person, for you see I had become as foul mouthed as you. So I am sorry for the language I used - and June I am glad you are okay - I understoodo you had been killed off by a sonic boom. You and C of BooHoo should get together for I believe you two would get along fabulously. Sincerely, Saba aka June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So June I have had the biggest insult levied against me as of late..C. of BooHoo believes you and I are the same person, for you see I had become as foul mouthed as you. I have never posted the profanity and foulness which regularly fill YOUR posts... So I am sorry for the language I used - and June I am glad you are okay - I understoodo you had been killed off by a sonic boom. Perhaps you will enlighten us as to what drug or combination of drugs you are on? Saba aka June I consider the above slander and libelous... June aka June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- Aleisha, Perhaps you would care to explain what you meant when you wrote:- June perhaps you would want to give this Nadia Hammer (a bad penny) your rendition of what sodomy is like. That was such a lovely article you wrote I saved a copy. You seem to be a specialist in the field of sodomy How do you two manage to share the same computer stool? Or tell her about Jesus being the bastard son of a woman who was "knocked up". You are both a big pile of dung aka la mared? And perhaps you could explain how the above fits in with the theme of this list (Conspiracy) please? With best wishes, Nadia PS the name is Hamer not Hammer and merde is spelt "merde" NOT "mared". A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Nadia A Hamer wrote: Aleisha, Perhaps you would care to explain what you meant when you wrote:- June perhaps you would want to give this Nadia Hammer (a bad penny) your rendition of what sodomy is like. That was such a lovely article you wrote I saved a copy. You seem to be a specialist in the field of sodomy How do you two manage to share the same computer stool? Or tell her about Jesus being the bastard son of a woman who was "knocked up". You are both a big pile of dung aka la mared? LOL! lol! Sorry, but THAT is a HISTORY! I wonder what the marketing teams that monitor us on the net (focus) will glean from that! Good stuff! It's GREAT how this list meets several of my needs, humor in this case! LOL! = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- Are we really allowing hate mail here? Is it civilized to call a whole nation "bastards"? I would prefer NOT to read such obscenity on this list - do we not read before we post: Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector." ? And by the way, Aleisha Saba, have you absolutely *no* manners? Can you not make a point without being so rude? Must I assume you are a foul-mouthed, obnoxious xenophobe or will you retract your racist statement? Nadia A Hamer England Aleisha Saba said: I remember the English with their headline story Oh What a Flopnik when our first attempt failed - these parasites on the back of the American public dared to ridicule our space program but boy on the other hand, quick to ask the Yanks to go over and lay themselves doon a dee for the bastards..look to Ireland and see the evil face of the English and note how much money these parasites take from this country each year? NB: "CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! (SNIP).. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- From: "Nadia A Hamer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] And by the way, Aleisha Saba, have you absolutely *no* manners? Can you not make a point without being so rude? Apparently Aleisha can not... Must I assume you are a foul-mouthed, obnoxious xenophobe You got it! or will you retract your racist statement? Don't hold your breath. Rather, brace yourself for all manner of abuse from "Aleisha", for daring to call "her" posts to task :-7 June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- June perhaps you would want to give this Nadia Hammer (a bad penny) your rendition of what sodomy is like. That was such a lovely article you wrote I saved a copy. You seem to be a specialist in the field of sodomy How do you two manage to share the same computer stool? Or tell her about Jesus being the bastard son of a woman who was "knocked up". You are both a big pile of dung aka la mared? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- I don't think you have to assume that Aleisha is a foul-mouthed, obnoxious xenophobe... I think she has proved it. M -Original Message- From: Nadia A Hamer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax? -Caveat Lector- Are we really allowing hate mail here? Is it civilized to call a whole nation "bastards"? I would prefer NOT to read such obscenity on this list - do we not read before we post: Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector." ? And by the way, Aleisha Saba, have you absolutely *no* manners? Can you not make a point without being so rude? Must I assume you are a foul-mouthed, obnoxious xenophobe or will you retract your racist statement? Nadia A Hamer England Aleisha Saba said: I remember the English with their headline story Oh What a Flopnik when our first attempt failed - these parasites on the back of the American public dared to ridicule our space program but boy on the other hand, quick to ask the Yanks to go over and lay themselves doon a dee for the bastards..look to Ireland and see the evil face of the English and note how much money these parasites take from this country each year? NB: "CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! (SNIP).. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- if you are as pretty as you are mental, aliesha, i will give you a 'hands on' demonstration of sodomy any time you like. erm, bebby. and funnily enough- i agree with you- june is saba in disguise- awful ain't it? - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax? -Caveat Lector- June perhaps you would want to give this Nadia Hammer (a bad penny) your rendition of what sodomy is like. That was such a lovely article you wrote I saved a copy. You seem to be a specialist in the field of sodomy How do you two manage to share the same computer stool? Or tell her about Jesus being the bastard son of a woman who was "knocked up". You are both a big pile of dung aka la mared? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] June perhaps you would want to give this Nadia Hammer (a bad penny) your rendition of what sodomy is like. I would, except I know you'd get your rocks off reading it... That was such a lovely article you wrote I saved a copy. I bet you did, so you could hold it in one hand reading it while... ;-) You seem to be a specialist in the field of sodomy I don't hold a candle to you in that regard... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/28/01 6:01:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Are we really allowing hate mail here? These matters are not for the thin skinned. There are many "divisve" threads all through conspiracy theory. It is one of the main tools. Do not believe everything you read, but do not be afraid to read it either. And personally, I do not take what Saba/Aliesha/. . . has to say with much seriousness but as to seeing the ebbs and flows of thought/stances and tone there is much to be gleaned. And I suspect that if s/he was tossed, they would appear again in another form. The British play the heavy in many conspiracy theories. One thing that is certain is that us hoi polloi are and have been subjected to massive amounts of propaganda, lies, social engineering, oppression, etc for generations. And one of the main battlefields is conspiracy theory. A conspiracy theory doesn't have to be true to have an effect. And generally people are motivated more easily by fear and the use of the hegelian dialectic began when he was alive and he been dead for over 170 years. And he was just a crystalization of ideas that had been floating around. The whole jewish german dialectic was specifically chosen to be a flash point and as a place for them "to hang their hats" and force/control the debate. The Jews and Germans were so intertwine in culture yet seperateness and unfamilarities could be used and have been. It is easy to get folks to be xenophobic. Let us hope the interent will help us all understand and expose the deviant elites, that use our nationhoods among other things against us all. On a mudball slinging through space. Onwards to the utmost of futures. Is it civilized to call a whole nation "bastards"? I would prefer NOT to read such obscenity on this list - do we not read before we post: There is always the delete key. Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- How many people remember the Apollo - that 27th day of January, 1967 where three brave men died burnt alive and he cause? Sabotage and my research points directly to the KGB/Russian Mafia.keeping in mind also it was the 28th of January the Challenger explosed mid air as friends and family watched the astronauts deaths. I remember the English with their headline story Oh What a Flopnik when our first attempt failed - these parasites on the back of the American public dared to ridicule our space program but boy on the other hand, quick to ask the Yanks to go over and lay themselves doon a dee for the bastards..look to Ireland and see the evil face of the English and note how much money these parasites take from this country each year? Today now the propaganda machine moves to say we did not go to the moon - I had a brother in law that worked with the genius von Braun - we got their okay and at considerable cost in lives and in money...now who would not want us to get to the moon first? For it was mandatory we so do. Well the Russians had a propagandist out who was a phoney psychic named Jean Dixon who had been proclaimed a "divine prophetess"..who stated Russia Will Beat Us to the Moon - and oh, this was a flopnik .. Her evil went unchecked until I nailed the old bat for soothsaying and practicing astrology without a liciense and suddenly her divine status, was challenged..later she was caught stealing money from her Children to Chidren "foundation" and you know those foundations are often fronts for drugs, and are tax dodges, etc. So the charge is made we did not go to the moon? Why, because a German genius by the name of von Braun made this dream of JFK's possible? The day the Challenger went down Russian trawlers suddenly left the area just before the explosion which was noted by those in the area..why does our government keep this secret that our Apollo and Challenger were destroyed by KGB/Russian Mafia? So I have their timetable - and anyone with a driving curiosity and a brain can see connections in their communications for this is what it is all about communications and codes and sabotage - all time to the Communist Timetable, as it was once called - today just call it the Russian Mafiaand then check out their connection to the Mossad - Apollo - the Craft that Came to Naught.check out Albert Speer's Diary for a clue as to what this bible calendar code is all about - for the Rusian guard took away this code from the Baron while in Spandau... So today these lying bastards say we did not go to the moon - what was the movie with Barbara Streisands husband and O.J. Simp[son - where the space program was made to look corrupt - let us say by their fruits you shall know them all. By the garbage and trash you see on your tv today you shall know them all. I sitll remember when America's dream was to go to the moon but there are those who would put our children's eyes to the cess pools where sodomy and AIDS go hand in hand with Rosie O'Donnell on Sesame Street.. Garbage is as garbage doesthere was once a day when we looked to the stars - now daily this garbage in Hollywood and in the news media pushed the faces of little children in the mud and the cess pools of their own making. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- How many people remember the Apollo - that 27th day of January, 1967 where three brave men died burnt alive and he cause? According to Dr. Fred Bell in a lecture given in St. Paul, MN in May 1998, there were fires on the Apollo launching pad EVERY DAY leading up to the death of the three astronauts. At the time Bell was working directly with Wernher Von Braun and complained to the German genuis about the lack of safety measures. Von Braun brushed him off because of the rush to get to the moon. Bell quit NASA shortly before the disaster. In his recent book former astronaut L. Gordon Cooper described von Braun as a great guy and the one most responsible for saving our space program. However, Fred Bell says von Braun was pissed about the way he was treated after he surrendered to U.S. forces at the end of World War II. "He still had an attitude about that," said Bell. Bottom line: we went to the moon. However, that does not mean all the "moon" photographs NASA has made available are genuine. Some of the ones I have seen have more than one source of light: either the moon has an additional sun that is hidden from earth, or artificial light was used. It's no big deal actually. If the pictures didn't turn out NASA simply may have done a "reenactment" like TV does to get better photos. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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In a message dated 2/26/01 7:33:45 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the pictures didn't turn out NASA simply may have done a "reenactment" like TV does to get better photos. Pictures are doctored. We went to moon. we found alien artifacts NASA covered it up. Carl
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-Caveat Lector- Way back it was reported that CBS and maybe some of the other major networks (only 3 at the time in our area at least) had used simulated pictures - and gotten caught and admitted to same. As for von Braun (and that little v designates nobility) he had a choice - for he could have gone to the Russian cause but chose America. He was a German and not a Nazi; further, during WWII he once said he would rather go to the moon than win the war - fpr von Braun was a real nobleman and not a nazi peasant. Today we have those who would attempt to destroy the image of the space program and the first to so do was a Civil Rights movement who wanted money spent on the ground as if welfare was not already draining this country dry. I would rather go to the moon and stars and leave the ones who want to wallow in the mud to so do. This Cold War was a very vicious war; I know of one former CO and Andrews AFB and his wife both drug off a train who escaped using the underground in Europe; this same thing happened to my sisters who traveled once to Slpain - in France hostile forces who knew who they were pretended not to speak English though once, they had. This Bell had hostilities - these astronauts were trained well and were loyal to their country and more than just the three, died for same. Maybe they were not as well known as those who died on the USS Liberty - here we see the enemy face to face - and the men who later then died on USS Cole regardless it has been sabotage and/or murder. My brother in law forbid me to say the Apollo was sabotaged keyed to this bible timetable I have (Acts 19 and throw in Acts 16 for a clue to works of propagandists)...all timed date wise and two forces at work - the KGB caused the murder ofo the astronauts in cahoots with the Mossad or this thing called Jewish Mafia Later I was told that a highschool in Huntsville had been named in honor of othe three Astronauts.Now as for the Challenger - round up the ususal suspects...these people are good at sneak attacks. When I got into deep water was when I stated a member of the Teamsters Union had been involved - and boy it hit the fan - Frank Fitzsimmons was then told by J. Edgar Hoover that I had cleared a security check, that I was getting information on my own and not satisfied with that - this hoodlum sent out two Teamster hoodlums with shoulder guns to attempt to intimidate mehowever, the one was a mason, so he said he was also Mafia..golly gee. So I hit the truth when I ran across this very curuous Gideon Bible timetable - we now reign supreme in the heavens - no need for soldiers anymore to fight the dirty ground wars. And these bastards - these people out to make a fast buck - claiming we did not go to the moon? Ought to take the bastards up there and dump them with their little cameras. One way tickets. As for von Braun, he died right before he was scheduled to come into the area in which I livie; my brother in law made it possible that I would get to meet him - but he did not live to make the trip. I always loved the Red Baron and I have his photograph and von Braun - both were aristocrats and of the nobility - which has nothing to do with great wealth, but a way of life. A man such as von Braun who wanted to go to the moon should not be judged with the Nazi Zionists who murdered their own - at least the ones who did not have the money to buy themselves a one way ticket to Zion (Israel). This planet is dying.but the one thing it will leave behind are memories of what it could have been..people hated von Braun for his genius - his great intellect..compare von Braun to this jewish assassin and low class hoodlem Marc Rich aka Reich of the so called 4th Reich who attempted to destroy the US Steelworkers - and wonder why there is not a certain amount of hatred directed at him and at his floosie wife - class tells. Take another good look at Jonestown, and those were Jewish Nazi Doctors at Jonestown who got away while the American doctors died - this was according to my old MI6 friend who had the scoop on the entire matter. About Jonestown - Mark Lane (real name Levy) he alone virtually escaped to write the book and tell the truth, his authorized version - he tries to pass himself off as CIA but the man has a way to be there when - well let us say he was with Larry Flynt, Dorothy Kilgallon, etc., at Jonestown, and connection through a gentleman in Michigan to Heaven's Gate? Why no big memorial to von Braun - and yes, why no big memorial to our boys in WWII who died - they were told they were dying for freedom? they died because zionism laid the traps. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis-
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/26/01 7:06:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He was a German and not a Nazi; yea, sure, he just wore the uniform for pictures and parades . . . Om K - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Carl Amedio wrote: Pictures are doctored. We went to moon. we found alien artifacts NASA covered it up. Carl, I think there is a case for us finding A LOT MORE than just ET artifacts. It's possible that we may have been thrown off, and warned not to ever come back. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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In a message dated 2/26/01 6:50:13 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Carl, I think there is a case for us finding A LOT MORE than just ET artifacts. It's possible that we may have been thrown off, and warned not to ever come back. I won't dispute that. Aliens popped Apollo 13 and later killed the Mars probes.any one remember the Russian picture of the Martian mood showed it to be cylindrical. That probe was destroyed as well. Carl
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-Caveat Lector- killed the Mars probes. If I lived on Mars, and I heard that the Earthlings were coming (especially Russians or Americans), I'd shoot 'em down as soon as they came into range. Otherwise they'd kill me, rape my wife, and steal everything I owned. Then my grand children would find themselves living on reservations and selling trinkets to tourists for a living. It's traditional. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] As for von Braun (and that little v designates nobility) Bull! It means nothing more than 'from' or 'of', the same as 'van' means in Dutch...plenty of non-noble Germans have 'von' names, just as many non-noble Dutch have 'van' names... 'van Dyke' means 'of Dyke' or 'from Dyke'...'von Braun' means of, or from, Braun... You should listen to Tom Paxton's Ode to Werner Von Braun June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
