Re: What release to do (was: [repository.lp.se #104] Bug in ctwm-3.6)
I hope I won't sound too aggressive here... Did you even bother to look at 3.7a5? Pretty much every found bug and code-shift problem found in a4 has been corrected and a lot of stuff has been added (introducing new bugs, of course). All of this required some effort, thinking and reorganizing of the code. How about making an effort yourself (for example looking at the 3.7a5 changelog, verifying the changes made and testing the new stuff) instead of pissing on other people's work? Again, sorry for the outburst. //\\ /\ dL - Dan Lilliehorn \ / ASCII ribbon campaign http://www.dL.nu/ X against HTML email [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Bjorn Knutsson wrote: Honestly, I think 3.7 should just be quitely dropped and we should restart from 3.6, apply all the bugfix patches and possibly some of well-tested and known-to-be-OK improvements and call this release 3.8. Then, with the new 3.8 as baseline, people can re-submit whatever patches didn't make it into 3.8. /Björn On 21 Feb 2005 00:35, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: [since this discussion isn't really about the reported bug, I'm moving it off ctwm-bugs] In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 20 Feb 2005 08:14:52 -0600, Matthew D. Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: fullermd I think we should have a bug fix release called 3.7 8-} That's a point, except we already have a 3.7 alpha (that needs to be updated and fixed), which feels as much like a bug introduction release as it would be a bug fix release. There are a lot of changes between 3.6 and 3.7, and I'm not sure I've caught up on what they all really do... Cheers, Richard - Please consider sponsoring my work on free software. See http://www.free.lp.se/sponsoring.html for details. -- Richard Levitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://richard.levitte.org/ When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. -- C.S. Lewis
Re: What release to do
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:48:41 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: dl I hope I won't sound too aggressive here... dl dl Did you even bother to look at 3.7a5? Pretty much every found bug dl and code-shift problem found in a4 has been corrected and a lot of dl stuff has been added (introducing new bugs, of course). All of dl this required some effort, thinking and reorganizing of the code. dl dl How about making an effort yourself (for example looking at the dl 3.7a5 changelog, verifying the changes made and testing the new dl stuff) instead of pissing on other people's work? dl dl Again, sorry for the outburst. Hmm, OK, I need som clarity here. I recall that there were some problems with Gnome and KDE, are those no more? I don't have the time to test with those desktop systems myself, so please help me bring clarity in my mind. If 3.7a5 is good enough to go to beta or release state, even with the stuff I don't check, I'm all for it! I'm using CTWM 3.7a5 myself, just as it is without any desktop system, and I'm quite happy with it for now. There are still issues in the RT database. I'll take a look at those in the days that come, and will see what I can resolve and what can wait 'til later. Cheers, Richard - Please consider sponsoring my work on free software. See http://www.free.lp.se/sponsoring.html for details. -- Richard Levitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://richard.levitte.org/ When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. -- C.S. Lewis
Re: What release to do
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 03:06:05PM +0100 I heard the voice of Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:48:41 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: dl Again, sorry for the outburst. Hmm, OK, I need som clarity here. I recall that there were some problems with Gnome and KDE, are those no more? I don't have the time to test with those desktop systems myself, so please help me bring clarity in my mind. It was my understanding (just from the list, since I don't use 'em either) that whatever problems there were, were in 3.6 as well, so while it may be a bug, it's not a regression. Something that should be fixed, perhaps, but not an argument against 3.7 qua 3.7. Of course, I could be all wet; if they ARE regressions, then they do need to be smacked down. But ISTM that _that_ is the question to be answered. If 3.7a5 is good enough to go to beta or release state, even with the stuff I don't check, I'm all for it! I'm using CTWM 3.7a5 myself, just as it is without any desktop system, and I'm quite happy with it for now. I'd back it. I went from 3.6 to 3.7a5 without having to change anything in my rc file, and everything worked just fine. And it certainly seems a step forward, even if only for being able to deal with those stupid phantom GTK windows so I can f.setoccupy Mozilla finally. There's plenty of parts of the code that I don't exercise at all, though, so that may not mean much. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet
Re: What release to do
--On Monday, February 21, 2005 03:06:05 PM +0100 Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If 3.7a5 is good enough to go to beta or release state, even with the stuff I don't check, I'm all for it! I use a5 and it works very nicely. I'm using CTWM 3.7a5 myself, just as it is without any desktop system, and I'm quite happy with it for now. One thing I'd like to investigate is multi-head support. I tried briefly using VirtualScreens and saw no difference in behavior than when not using it... Thanks, Rudy
