RE: Multiple XWin.exe programs loading and no xterm
Because I execute the entire script twice, since the first execution doesn't bring up any xterms. Still not sure what is causing it to take so long to launch the xwin.exe. Can I set the timeout values on the xterm's with a flag? Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Cegielski Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:38 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Multiple XWin.exe programs loading and no xterm I'm just trying to understand this even though it works for me now. Why are two X servers launching in the first place? --- Alexander Gottwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Armbrust, Daniel C. wrote: The -kb command helped with one of my machines that was having intermittent difficulties in launching. On another machine, however, I always have to execute the following script twice before I get any Xwin windows: run XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error -kb run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash -l run xterm -geometry 80x50-0-0 -sl 500 -sb -rightbar -e ssh -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] The first time that I run it - Xwin.exe and two xterm.exe's appear in the process manager - then both xterm's disappear. Eventually the X finally appears in the lower right corner. This means XWin is taking very long to startup. Maybe because of a virus scanner? The xterms will timeout after no connection to the xserver could be established. The second xserver will notice the first one and will silently exit but now the xterms can connect to the first xserver. Adding a sleep after run XWin might help by postponing the xterm startup. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 Scott Cegielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
RE: Multiple XWin.exe programs loading and no xterm
The -kb command helped with one of my machines that was having intermittent difficulties in launching. On another machine, however, I always have to execute the following script twice before I get any Xwin windows: --CUT-- All of the standard startXWin.bat environment setup stuff... --CUT-- run XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error -kb run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash -l run xterm -geometry 80x50-0-0 -sl 500 -sb -rightbar -e ssh -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] The first time that I run it - Xwin.exe and two xterm.exe's appear in the process manager - then both xterm's disappear. Eventually the X finally appears in the lower right corner. Then I run the script again, and this time the xterms actually launch. Here is the log file from the first launch: Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-1 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error -kb ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /tmp/.X11-unix will not be created. (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 depth: 32 winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff ff00 00ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409) (--) Using preset keyboard for English (USA) (409), type 4 (++) XkbExtension disabled (--) 3 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winInitClipboard () winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned. winClipboardProc - Hello DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. Does this shed any light on things? Thanks, Dan
RE: Multiple XWin.exe programs loading and no xterm
This happens to me all the time - I usually have to launch the X stuff 2 or 3 times before it actually works. I have to manually kill off all xterm.exe, bash.exe, and other cygwin programs in between the launches. I keep meaning to look into it more, but since I start it less than once a week, I haven't had enough incentive to dig deeper yet. I just set up cygwin on another machine this week, and it suffers the same problem. Dan
RE: xwin hangs at startup - no xterm display
I get this quite often.. It usually takes me 3-4 cycles of launching and killing processes before I can get a working xterm up. It hasn't annoyed me enough to look into it further yet - plus my version is outdated - I just assumed it would be fixed in a future version since it was such blatant error - but maybe its not as widespread as I assumed.
RE: cygwin/x symantec antivirus conflict
I do see the problem with slow rendering of X-forwarded apps on one of my computers, and it does not have symmantec installed (it does have F-Prot antivirus installed, however) I have never figured out what is wrong with it... It used to work fine, and then I did an update at somepoint, and the slow behavior started. I just don't use it often enough on that computer to be inclined to troubleshoot it... Dan
RE: cygwin/x symantec antivirus conflict
I have a corporate version of 8.1.1.323, and see no slowdowns. I didn't have to do anything special to make it work. (Helpful post huh?) Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Tanner Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cygwin/x symantec antivirus conflict Alexander Gottwald wrote: I'll add this to the FAQ. Does Symantec Antivirus has an option to disable scanning for certain programs? Try adding XWin.exe to that list. Good idea, but no dice. I added the entire c:\cygwin\ tree to the Symantec exclusion list, but the slowdown is still there. There's also no difference if you disable network drive scanning, or something called Threat Tracer (the purpose of TT is Identify the source of network share-based virus infections on computers that are running Windows NT/2000/XP operating systems.) This really sucks. I don't want to run without antivirus protection, but the delay is really irritating. Is anybody using Symantec Antivirus and NOT seeing a delay? If so, what version of SA are you using? I have full version 9.0.0.1400, scan engine 1.2.0.13.
RE: How to delete old cygwin directories on W2K?
If you are logged on as administrator, can you take ownership of these directories? After you own them, you should be able to remove them. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don V Black Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to delete old cygwin directories on W2K? Hi - I have a couple of backup CYGWIN directories on my hard drive that I cannot remove even when I logon as Administrator. I had a disk crash and was forced to restore the W2K system onto a new harddrive. I used the old drive (120GB) as a data disk. The old drive contains the old CYGWIN directories which I now cannot delete. Windows Explorer displays the properties of these directories. I cannot change the READ-ONLY status of the Shorcuts in these directories. The 'security' allows read and or execute only, no write, modify or delete. The owner is S-1-5-21-184423 ... How do I delete these directories? - Kind Regards, Don + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Join the Pros at your IEEE Computer Society http://www.IEEE-OCCS.org Digital ChoreoGraphics http://www.dcgfx.com 3D Visualization SoftwareDesign Development 1-949-548-1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
start vs run
At the end of my startxwin.bat script, here is how I launch my windows manger, and then connect up to a Fedora Core 2 machine: start XWin -screen 0 1280 960 -clipboard -silent-dup-error run xterm -geometry 80x24+0+0 -sb -leftbar -e ssh -Y mir04 /bin/bash --login -c gnome-session This works (though I don't understand why I need -Y now instead of -X (I've seen the FAQ, but apparantly it just doesn't stick with me, or I just don't get it)) However, I end up with a prompt on my windows machine for the Xwin.exe server, and it spits out all kinds of debugging info. If I change the start command to run when I execute the script, the X Server starts - it appears in the system tray - but it never appears as a window. I can't get to the any of the X clients. When I kill the X Server (from the system tray) it tells me that there are clients connected, but I don't see any. Why does changing from start to run screw this up? How do I get rid of this debug window? Thanks, Dan
RE: Looking for help
- export DISPLAY=:0.0 # otherwise ssh won't start X forwarding You don't have to do this. The easiest way to set this up for a machine you connect to all the time is to edit the end of your cygwin/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat file to look like this: scroll down past all of the comments (REM prefixed lines) where it documents all the options start XWin -multiplemonitors -clipboard run xterm -geometry 80x24+0+0 -sb -leftbar -e ssh MACHINEADDRESS /bin/bash --login -c gnome-session This causes you to launch a local xterm, which then executes the command ssh - which connects to the remote server, and executed gnome-session. Change gnome-session to startkde if you want kde instead of gnome. Ps - I also have this line in my /home/username/.ssh/config file: ForwardX11 yes And then I set up my ssh keys so that I don't have to type in my password to connect to this machine for details. See http://armbrust.dyndns.org:81/tips_content/ssh.html Dan
RE: startx causing XP (Media Center Edition) blue screen?
Two questions - is it an ATI video card? And when you say newest drivers - is that the newest drivers from Microsoft, or the newest drivers direct from your vendor? Or maybe media center edition doesn't let you install any drivers unless they are Microsoft approved? In my experience, windows provided drivers are quite outdated - and in the case of ATI - their drivers in the past have not been worth 2 cents. I was happy when they finally released a build of the drivers that didn't bluescreen my machine once a day
RE: Updated: XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-31
I just upgraded my install, and now it reports a missing dll file (cygcygipc-2.dll). Should the installer handle this automatically?
RE: Updated: XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-31
Yeah, it had been a couple of months I usually try to avoid upgrading it unless there is a new feature I want (if its not broke) I had to track down three missing dll files, but now the cut and paste upgrades are working great. Thanks for your work yet again, Harold. This was about the only thing on my it would be nice if it was fixed list For my uses of cygwin anyway. Dan -Original Message- From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Updated: XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-31 Daniel, Armbrust, Daniel C. wrote: I just upgraded my install, and now it reports a missing dll file (cygcygipc-2.dll). Should the installer handle this automatically? You must have been going for a very long time before upgrading. Yes, the cygipc package is a dependency of the X packages, but if you upgrade from an old version that did not require it, then it might not be automatically selected for installation. The solution is to manually select the cygipc package. Harold
RE: Proper attribution of patches
Thomas, as a casual observer of your behavior in respect to Harold, your last name would describe you better if it were shortened to Dick. Here is a Quote from Mr. Dickeys webpage where he is whining about not getting credit for patches he wrote: This is a collection of some of the patches which I have made to GNU programs. I have submitted these patches to the appropriate maintainers, but received no acknowledgment. That is, they were ignored. In a few other cases, I have seen my changes incorporated without credit, but that is another matter. The former (nonexistent or non-responsive maintainers) are preferable to the latter (egotistical plagiarists). And now, he is the one trying to claim credit for others work. Very adult of you. Thomas, you wouldn't let Harold commit patches. Now that he has moved the project, you are stealing his (and in this case) other peoples patches. Why don't you people grow up? Harold, thank you for continuing the work you do, and for putting up with these egotistical jerks in XFree86 land. Dan -Original Message- From: Thomas Dickey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Proper attribution of patches On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Your commit didn't mention this either. Our change log is in our release notes, where the changes were attributed to Ralf Habacker: tsk, tsk: the actual commit on the code change bears only your name. A casual reader of that commit (and of this thread) would gain the false impression that you did the work. Try to make a point the next time you choose to waste my time. You put *your* name in the change log message, making an active claim that you did the work. get to the point. or is logic beyond your capabilities? All you can focus on is that I didn't put _your_ name on the change. A shame. But given your previous behavior, entirely expected. Your so-called announcement was followup email to the _same_ people who had been able to watch the discussion of the problem. That's not an announcement. hmm - no overall changelog entry for the project, no webpage giving project news. Just a mailing list (subscription-only ;-). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
RE: Proper attribution of patches
Wow, your still so pissed off about being wrong, now you are attacking all of Harold's friends. Boy, you're a big powerful man. Let me bow before you. #1. I do not know Harold. All I know about him is what I have learned by following this list for about a year. #2. I don't know you. All I know about you is what you are posting to this list. #3. I don't need to defend my current opinion. It is correct. The only reason you are still posting like a 10 year old is because you know it is correct. If my opinion is wrong, why don't you actually respond to the points that I and others have made, instead of trying to insult more people? #4. My past postings addressed the same issue. The XFree86 people tend to behave like spoiled brat 10 years olds, fighting Harold every way that they can, while he continues to remain civil and present facts to support his issue, while the person on the other side ignores the facts and calls him names. #5. I have taken a small part in many other opensource projects (mostly under the jakarta umbrella) and I have never seen someone be as disrespectful and unhelpful as you (except for a couple of others on the XFree86 list, the last time they attacked Harold). Maybe someone can enlighten me as to the history of the project administrators of XFree86 becoming the enemies of the project? I would almost think they are on Microsofts payroll. You are continuing to act like a complete schmuck. Apologies to everyone else that continues to be annoyed by this pissing match. I'm going to start enjoying the holidays now, so I'm done posting for a while :) Dan -Original Message- From: Thomas Dickey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Proper attribution of patches On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Armbrust, Daniel C. wrote: I've seen your postings before, and have no use for your opinions. (that seems to be a common trait of Harold's friends - I don't have to address each one of them). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
RE: Cygwin/XFree86 - No longer associated with XFree86.org
Harold, I have been lurking on this list for a while now. I don't know much about XFree86, or the politics, or any history. But I read the threads that led up to your decision. I applaud you. You asked for something completely reasonable, and (pardon the language) David Dawes came off as a complete jackass. I have worked with Jakarta Ant, the Eclipse Project, and Jakarta Lucene to varying degrees. And I have never seen someone on any of those mailing lists get treated like you were. And, as an example of a well functioning open source project, when someone new came to lucene, he turned in some quality patches over the course of about a month. About the equivalent to what I see you commit on this mailing list in a week. And they made him a full fledged committer. No problems, no insults, no lie detector tests. They voted, and it was done. That it how it is supposed to work. The XFree86 organization looks like it is being run by a bunch of power hungry fools. Thanks for all of your time and work, Dan
Issues with Launching remote X apps
I'm trying to setup my startxwin.bat script in such a way that it logs in to a remote linux machine, and starts kde, with one click. I'm there, except for the launching of kde part. Here are (what I think are) the important commands from the script: start XWin -screen 0 1280 960 -clipboard run xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 run /usr/X11R6/bin/xHost.exe + run xterm -geometry 80x24+0+0 -sb -leftbar -e ssh -f mir01startkde But for some reason, when it executes 'startkde' it seems to do so without having loaded my environment variables, etc first. I get lots of errors, and it dies. If I make the last line in the .bat file this instead: run xterm -geometry 80x24+0+0 -sb -leftbar -e ssh mir01 The ssh connection works correctly, and then if I type in 'startkde' everything runs great. What am I doing wrong with the ssh command? Thanks, Dan
RE: Issues with Launching remote X apps
Beautiful. Works like a charm. Thanks a lot! Dan -Original Message- From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Issues with Launching remote X apps On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Armbrust, Daniel C. wrote: I'm trying to setup my startxwin.bat script in such a way that it logs in to a remote linux machine, and starts kde, with one click. I'm there, except for the launching of kde part. Here are (what I think are) the important commands from the script: start XWin -screen 0 1280 960 -clipboard run xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 run /usr/X11R6/bin/xHost.exe + run xterm -geometry 80x24+0+0 -sb -leftbar -e ssh -f mir01startkde But for some reason, when it executes 'startkde' it seems to do so without having loaded my environment variables, etc first. I get lots of errors, and it dies. If I make the last line in the .bat file this instead: run xterm -geometry 80x24+0+0 -sb -leftbar -e ssh mir01 The ssh connection works correctly, and then if I type in 'startkde' everything runs great. What am I doing wrong with the ssh command? Thanks, Dan Dan, ssh has two modes of operation: a remote shell, and a remote login. When you supply a script to execute, it acts as a remote shell. When you don't (i.e., your second case), it acts as a remote login, executing all login/rc scripts. Apparently, you need to execute your login/rc scripts to set up the environment to run kde. If your login shell is bash, try forcing a login by running run xterm -geometry 80x24+0+0 -sb -leftbar -e ssh -f mir01 /bin/bash --login -c startkde (I'm assuming the lack of space in the above command is a typo). If your login shell is something else, you'll need to find out which flag to pass to it to force a login shell (for tcsh it's '-l' IIRC). Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton
