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Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[jim bell]

 On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 5:40:34 PM PDT, juan  wrote:
 
 
 On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 19:41:41 -0400
Marina Brown  wrote:


> Sorry - i thought that was you were saying.
    
    It is quite clear what Jim was saying. It's kinda dumb to quote
    him again, but here it goes. Of course one can look at the 1
    day old whole message which is a typical anti-immigration
    right-wing rant. 



    "When I suggest that illegal re-entry is a 'victimless crime',
    that does not mean that there are not other crimes which
    illegal re-entry employs (such as people-smuggling) and
    further, crimes that it enables:  Any crime subsequently
    committed by a person who is illegally present in America.
     Kate Steinle's case in San Francisco is an excellent example
    of this.   These crimes are ENABLED because the illegal alien
    is in America.  If he is out of America, he might still commit
    crimes, but they would be crimes that some other government
    would have to deal with. 

    Also, keep in mind that the U.S. government doesn't need to
    actually convict these people of some crime, in order to expel
    them.  Put simply, if the government had actually been
    enforcing immigration law for the last 30+ years, there might
    easily be a half-million illegals in America, rather that what
    I suspect to be, 20 million.  (the figures bandied commonly
    about, 11-12 million are nonsense.)

    So, if ICE actually did its job, much of the crime associated
    with illegal aliens simply wouldn't occur. " 





    * 'illegal' re-entry 'enables' crimes.
    * person who is 'illegally' present in America
    * crimes are ENABLED because the 'illegal' alien is in
      America 
    * government doesn't need to convict...people...in order to
      expel them. 

    "if the government had actually been
    enforcing immigration law for the last 30+ years, there might
    easily be a half-million illegals in America, rather that what
    I suspect to be, 20 million" 

    that ^ sounds like a clear 'complaint' doesnt it. Notice
    also the unfounded assertion, typical of propaganda, about the
    numbers, inflated to 20 millions.

    And the punch line, if "ICE actually did its job" those dirty
    foreign 'criminals' wouldn't commit the 'crimes' they allegedly
    commit in AMERIKKKA.
[end of quote]
I suppose I should have been anal, and said, "if ICE actually did the job it 
claims to be its own..."
                        Jim Bell


  

Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[juan]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 19:41:41 -0400
Marina Brown  wrote:


> Sorry - i thought that was you were saying.

It is quite clear what Jim was saying. It's kinda dumb to quote
him again, but here it goes. Of course one can look at the 1
day old whole message which is a typical anti-immigration
right-wing rant. 



"When I suggest that illegal re-entry is a 'victimless crime',
that does not mean that there are not other crimes which
illegal re-entry employs (such as people-smuggling) and
further, crimes that it enables:  Any crime subsequently
committed by a person who is illegally present in America.
 Kate Steinle's case in San Francisco is an excellent example
of this.   These crimes are ENABLED because the illegal alien
is in America.  If he is out of America, he might still commit
crimes, but they would be crimes that some other government
would have to deal with. 

Also, keep in mind that the U.S. government doesn't need to
actually convict these people of some crime, in order to expel
them.  Put simply, if the government had actually been
enforcing immigration law for the last 30+ years, there might
easily be a half-million illegals in America, rather that what
I suspect to be, 20 million.  (the figures bandied commonly
about, 11-12 million are nonsense.)

So, if ICE actually did its job, much of the crime associated
with illegal aliens simply wouldn't occur. " 



* 'illegal' re-entry 'enables' crimes.
* person who is 'illegally' present in America
* crimes are ENABLED because the 'illegal' alien is in
  America 
* government doesn't need to convict...people...in order to
  expel them. 

"if the government had actually been
enforcing immigration law for the last 30+ years, there might
easily be a half-million illegals in America, rather that what
I suspect to be, 20 million" 

that ^ sounds like a clear 'complaint' doesnt it. Notice
also the unfounded assertion, typical of propaganda, about the
numbers, inflated to 20 millions.

And the punch line, if "ICE actually did its job" those dirty
foreign 'criminals' wouldn't commit the 'crimes' they allegedly
commit in AMERIKKKA.


meh.



> 
> > /dev/null
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> >> Honestly, TSA and ICE just look like jobs programs to me. Jobs 
> >> programs to satisfy authoritarians.
> > 
> > 
> > I don't believe I ever disagreed with this concept.
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Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[Marina Brown]

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On 03/22/2018 07:09 PM, jim bell wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 3:52:55 PM PDT, Marina Brown 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
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> 
> On 03/22/2018 04:41 PM, jim bell wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 12:30:10 PM PDT, juan 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:43:27 + (UTC) jim bell 
>> 
> >> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> I notice that you don't distinguish between public
>>> (government) borders and private (private property) borders.
>>> Why is that?I oppose government borders.  But I believe in the
>>> concept of private property, which amounts to the right to
>>> exclude others from that property.  We live on the surface (2
>>> dimensional, more or less) of a sphere (Earth) and we desire to
>>> travel and have goods (and information) brought to us.  That
>>> will require that roads
>> 
>> 
>>> Come on Jim. I already refuted your right wing, fake
>> libertarian garbage.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Utter and complete nonsense.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> And it's quite funny how an engineer isn't
>> aware of the fact that there is AIR TRAVEL and SEA TRAVEL and
>> that right-wing fake 'anarchists' haven't claimed to own the SEA
>> and the SkY, at least YET.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I was not including air travel and sea travel because I didn't 
>> consider it relevant to the current discussion.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> So, please stop defending STATE BORDERS like you did and stop
>> wholly misrepresenting libertarian philosphy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I think I already said that I opposed government borders.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> For what it's worth, I also oppose it when government requires 
>>> people to show some sort of identification in order to travel.
>> 
>> Do you really? But that's what happens when ICE DOES ITS JOB eh?
>> 
> 
>> For someone who supports freedom of travel and who opposes the 
>> requirement of papers - what legitimate "job" does ICE do ?
> 
> BTW, your quotation makes it appear that _I_ said, "But that's
> what happens when ICE DOES ITS JOB".
> 
> Please go back and show that 1.  You are addressing my comment.
> OR 2.  You are addressing somebody else's comment.
> 

Sorry - i thought that was you were saying.

> /dev/null


> 
> 
>> Honestly, TSA and ICE just look like jobs programs to me. Jobs 
>> programs to satisfy authoritarians.
> 
> 
> I don't believe I ever disagreed with this concept.

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Re: Plebbit Jewtube Embark On Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act? Warrantless Wiretap

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:11:18PM -0700, g2s wrote:
> 
>  Original message From: Marina Brown 
>  Date: 3/22/18  10:52 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: g2s 
> , cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Plebbit Jewtube 
> Embark On Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act
>   Warrantless Wiretap 
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> 
> On 03/22/2018 12:06 PM, g2s wrote:
> > 
> >  Original message  From: Marina Brown
> >  Date: 3/22/18 7:10 AM (GMT-08:00) To:
> > cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Plebbit Jewtube Embark On
> > Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap
> > 
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256
> > 
> > On 03/22/2018 09:49 AM, g2s wrote:
> >> I see from the modded sj line you've gone full Nazi antisemite. 
> >> Whodathunkit.
> >> 
> >> Rr
> > 
> > The nazi meme is so old and tired.
> > 
> > 
> > But Nazis still exist and with them, memes.
> > 
> > Further, considering the Nazi MSM is saying because the American
> > Nazi's hitherto unknown facemen, Milo and Spencer got bored with it
> > and went on to sell products on InfoWars (milo) and claim they were
> > simply 'tired of it' (spencer), your Nazi MSM would market the
> > concept that Antifa, whatever that means, actually eliminated the
> > historically longstanding Nazi tendency. Not JUST Fascist, Nazi,
> > tendency in US society.
> 
> Spencer appears to be self destructing, Milo well he had the seeds of
> his own destruction within and they have detonated.
> 
> This does not mean the nazi threat is over. We need to watch watch watch
> and play whack-a-mole wherever the illinois nazis shot their heads.
> 
> > Rr
> 
> I HATE Illinois Nazis.https://youtu.be/ulCw7RJ5eE8
> Rr
> 
> Rr


Yes Razer, your caricature is a deep and useful explanation for the
Whitelash just dawning on your marijuana-addled consciousness.

Sure it's a funny skit, but why imply that absolutely no questioning
or debate is allowed of what some perceive as the endless Jewish
agenda to power?

Is free speech only for politically correct topics?

Or, Razer dear, are you simply unable to cognize any sincerity beyond
a cartoon?


 - a "holy" land, Israel, for Jews/ Zios/ Ashkenazis
 - Israelis turfing out the blacks

 - open borders for non-Jews


 - banking and billion dollar king making ZuckerSlut empires for the
   Zio pups

 - multi trillion $ debts for the goyim


Why is it not appropriate to discuss Jewish power (which you must
admit, is all pervasive in the West - government, media, banking and
military ??

Hmm?

Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[jim bell]

 

On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 3:52:55 PM PDT, Marina Brown 
 wrote:  
 
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On 03/22/2018 04:41 PM, jim bell wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 12:30:10 PM PDT, juan
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:43:27 + (UTC) jim bell
> > wrote:
> 
> 
>> I notice that you don't distinguish between public (government) 
>> borders and private (private property) borders.  Why is that?I
>> oppose government borders.  But I believe in the concept of
>> private property, which amounts to the right to exclude others
>> from that property.  We live on the surface (2 dimensional, more
>> or less) of a sphere (Earth) and we desire to travel and have
>> goods (and information) brought to us.  That will require that
>> roads
> 
> 
>> Come on Jim. I already refuted your right wing, fake
> libertarian garbage.
> 
> 
> 
> Utter and complete nonsense.
> 
> 
> 
>> And it's quite funny how an engineer isn't
> aware of the fact that there is AIR TRAVEL and SEA TRAVEL and that
> right-wing fake 'anarchists' haven't claimed to own the SEA and the
> SkY, at least YET.
> 
> 
> 
> I was not including air travel and sea travel because I didn't
> consider it relevant to the current discussion.
> 
> 
> 
>> So, please stop defending STATE BORDERS like you did and stop
> wholly misrepresenting libertarian philosphy.
> 
> 
> 
> I think I already said that I opposed government borders.
> 
> 
> 
>> For what it's worth, I also oppose it when government requires
>> people to show some sort of identification in order to travel.
> 
> Do you really? But that's what happens when ICE DOES ITS JOB eh?
> 

>For someone who supports freedom of travel and who opposes the
>requirement of papers - what legitimate "job" does ICE do ?
BTW, your quotation makes it appear that _I_ said, "But that's what happens 
when ICE DOES ITS JOB".
Please go back and show that 1.  You are addressing my comment.     OR2.  You 
are addressing somebody else's comment.  


>Honestly, TSA and ICE just look like jobs programs to me. Jobs
>programs to satisfy authoritarians.


I don't believe I ever disagreed with this concept.    

Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[Marina Brown]

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On 03/22/2018 04:41 PM, jim bell wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 12:30:10 PM PDT, juan
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:43:27 + (UTC) jim bell
> > wrote:
> 
> 
>> I notice that you don't distinguish between public (government) 
>> borders and private (private property) borders.  Why is that?I
>> oppose government borders.  But I believe in the concept of
>> private property, which amounts to the right to exclude others
>> from that property.  We live on the surface (2 dimensional, more
>> or less) of a sphere (Earth) and we desire to travel and have
>> goods (and information) brought to us.  That will require that
>> roads
> 
> 
>> Come on Jim. I already refuted your right wing, fake
> libertarian garbage.
> 
> 
> 
> Utter and complete nonsense.
> 
> 
> 
>> And it's quite funny how an engineer isn't
> aware of the fact that there is AIR TRAVEL and SEA TRAVEL and that
> right-wing fake 'anarchists' haven't claimed to own the SEA and the
> SkY, at least YET.
> 
> 
> 
> I was not including air travel and sea travel because I didn't
> consider it relevant to the current discussion.
> 
> 
> 
>> So, please stop defending STATE BORDERS like you did and stop
> wholly misrepresenting libertarian philosphy.
> 
> 
> 
> I think I already said that I opposed government borders.
> 
> 
> 
>> For what it's worth, I also oppose it when government requires
>> people to show some sort of identification in order to travel.
> 
> Do you really? But that's what happens when ICE DOES ITS JOB eh?
> 

For someone who supports freedom of travel and who opposes the
requirement of papers - what legitimate "job" does ICE do ?

Honestly, TSA and ICE just look like jobs programs to me. Jobs
programs to satisfy authoritarians.

- --- Marina

> 
>>> But I believe I cannot prohibit it if a private
>>> (non-governmental) company such as an airline decides, for
>>> itself, that it will insist on identification in order to allow
>>> passengers to travel.
> 
>> lawl - didn't your mommny teach you not to lie? You actually 
>> don't object to the police state as long as you can pretend it's
>> 'private'.
> 
> 
> 
> If you don't believe in the concept of "private property" say so.
> But don't pretend that everybody has the same opinion as you.
> 
> I am aware, of course, that SOME anarchists oppose the idea of
> private property.  See 
> http://www.infoshop.org/an-anarchist-faq-b-3-why-are-anarchists-agains
t-private-property/
>
> 
> 
> I consider that essay foolish, because it pretends that there is a
> valid distinction between two forms of property:
> 
> 
> "B.3.1 What is the difference between private property and
> possession?
> 
> Anarchists define /“private property”/ (or just /“property,”/ for
> short) as state-protected monopolies of certain objects or
> privileges which are used to control and exploit others.
> /“Possession,”/ on the other hand, is ownership of things that are
> not used to exploit others (e.g. a car, a refrigerator, a
> toothbrush, etc.). Thus many things can be considered as either
> property or possessions depending on how they are used." 
>  You will also notice that in that essay, the
> author grandly used terms like "anarchists believe" and "anarchists
> define".  One of the most foolish forms of debate is that in which
> a party effectively tries to define his position to be true, or his
> opponent's position to be false, or make grandly sweeping
> statements that over-state or mis-state reality.  Pretending that
> no possible anarchist can believe in private property (including by
> conveniently defining it away) is nonsense. I consider there to be
> a major problem with that stance:  What is the alternative?  If
> there is essentially no private property, then the most obvious
> alternative is collective ownership.  But that implies the need for
> a big, controlling, and ultimately abusive government.  But
> really, that's not surprising:  The label "anarchist" is more than
> occasionally used by people, describing themselves, who really want
> to set up a big, abusive, controlling government.  They just find
> the term "anarchist" and "anarchism" to be stylish.
> 
> Jim Bell

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Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[Marina Brown]

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On 03/22/2018 03:52 PM, jim bell wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 10:57:35 AM PDT, Marina Brown 
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> I am not in support of borders and i support people's right to 
>>> travel
>> without "Papers".
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I notice that you don't distinguish between public (government) 
>> borders and private (private property) borders.  Why is that? I 
>> oppose government borders.  But I believe in the concept of 
>> private property, which amounts to the right to exclude others
>> from that property.  We live on the surface (2 dimensional, more
>> or less) of a sphere (Earth) and we desire to travel and have
>> goods (and information) brought to us.  That will require that
>> roads and other utilities be constructed and maintained, and that
>> costs money.  The people who finance such construction will
>> therefore have rights.
> 
> 
> 
> [stuff deleted]
> 
> 
> 
>>> For what it's worth, I also oppose it when government requires 
>>> people to show some sort of identification in order to travel.
>>> But I believe I cannot prohibit it if a private
>>> (non-governmental) company such as an airline decides, for
>>> itself, that it will insist on identification in order to allow
>>> passengers to travel.  The risk to fellow passengers has become
>>> too great (hijacking, bombing, etc) to avoid this, sadly.  I
>>> COULD choose to take airlines that DIDN'T require people to
>>> identify themselves.  Presumably, such airlines will exist when
>>> that is allowed.
> 
> 
> [stuff deleted]
> 
> 
> 
>> Most libertarians are opposed to collectivism. The idea that a
> neihborhood or country is privately owned by the members who then 
> can keep anyone out or kick people out can become rather
> nightmarish form of collectivism.
> 
> 
> Maybe you need to think things through.   We are, indeed, stuck on
> a 2-dimensional surface.   Currently, it is as if all roads are
> owned by some kind of government, a major example of collectivism.
> Generally, libertarians tend to support organization (where it
> exists) at the lowest practical level, as opposed to higher levels.
> Is there some reason that you think it's better that a city
> government over, say, 250,000 people to have control, rather than a
> neighborhood agreement by the owners of, say, 250 houses?   Or of
> 25 houses?
> 
> 
> 
>> I tend to support voluntary associations except when they become
> repressive and totalitarian.
> 
> 
> 
> A person's control over his own property and assets might be 
> (humorously) described as "repressive and totalitarian".
> Remember the comic movie, "History of the World Part 1" by Mel
> Brooks:   "It's good to be the King!". As I see it, the alternative
> to private property is collective ownership, which quickly turns
> into Socialist and Communist control and oppression.  (And I
> consider Naziism to merely be another version of Socialism, see the
> Wikipedia article on Benito Mussolini. 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini  × //
> 
> 
> 
>> Heck, even homeowner associations sometimes
> become repressive. ...which is why i live out in the sticks where
> you don't even need a permit to build things.
> 
> 
> 
> Perfectly good reason.  But maybe a better solution would be to
> ensure that "homowner associations" have no more power than they
> need, to do whatever they were originally intended to accomplish.
> .
> 

That's kind of the key that both left libertarians and regular
libertarians are looking to do.

There are not set solutions. When a solution leads to a totalitarian
situation that is a sign that it is wrong.


> Jim Bell
> 
> 
> 

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Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 01:57:33PM -0400, Marina Brown wrote:
> On 03/22/2018 01:43 PM, jim bell wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 21, 2018, 10:36:10 PM PDT, Marina Brown 
> >  wrote:
> >> I grieved when Gilmore's right to travel case was decided against
> >> him.
> > 
> > 
> > For what it's worth, I also oppose it when government requires
> > people to show some sort of identification in order to travel.  But
> > I believe I cannot prohibit it if a private (non-governmental)
> > company such as an airline decides, for itself, that it will insist
> > on identification in order to allow passengers to travel.  The risk
> > to fellow passengers has become too great (hijacking, bombing, etc)
> > to avoid this, sadly.   I COULD choose to take airlines that DIDN'T
> > require people to identify themselves.  Presumably, such airlines
> > will exist when that is allowed.
> 
> Most libertarians are opposed to collectivism. The idea that a
> neihborhood or country is privately owned by the members who then
> can keep anyone out or kick people out can become rather nightmarish
> form of collectivism.

Thank you for stating this.

Humans have historically shown that they are generally unable to act
individually, in support of their collective interest.

The complexity of even comprehending an actual with no direct
individual benefit, yet ultimately an individual benefit due to
collective action/ group effects, seems beyond many - I'd say even
beyond the majority.


So for example the "deal" whereby our Melbourne (Victoria, Australia)
"Citylink" road was already built and "paid for" by our current
collective system of Australian government, was usurped by some money
loving scoundrels in government and sold on the sly to Macquarie
Bank, a shareholder/ investor collectivist group acting against the
interests of the general community, who have been taxing use of this
'public road' ever since.

  “In 1996, Transurban was awarded the contract to augment two
  existing freeways”
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CityLink

The human citizens could simply not use that road, and bypass it,
take public transport, and suffer longer trip times, to kick that
banking conglomerate demon to the kerbside - a united front would fix
the problem in about a month.

-Especially- when Citylink first appeared, but still the case now -
stop the money going to the parasite, reclaim our commons.

But humans just accepted this disgraceful usurpation of the public
commons, and paid, and keep paying, and do not act in their own
collective interest.


In our digital age we perhaps have a greater (in general) awareness
of "the commons" and its value to us collectively, and that it is in
our individual interests to foster this commons - both digitally and
physically.  (As most of us know, Disney has used government for its
intended purpose and created statutes to extend their Mickey Mouse
monopoly against the interests of the broader community, despite
billion$ in profits for decades which profit was enabled due to
statute copyright laws.)


Anarchy/ libertarianism does not preclude a functioning and abundant
commons, but it does not require it either - it may be that
education, and will to act in support of concepts which are
"ultimately in the interests of the individual, just not providing
immediate gratification" is critical to a utopian anarchy, rather
than a dystopian anarchy - unfortunately we don't have many anarchies
or "libertarian states" to compare.


> I tend to support voluntary associations except when they become
> repressive and totalitarian. Heck, even homeowner associations sometimes
> become repressive. ...which is why i live out in the sticks where you
> don't even need a permit to build things.

Freedom.

[juan]

https://archive.is/smH6u/f74415e40be0775297e1ceaa7663db4ce8f9f4a8.png


The image is perhaps supposed to be half-funny but in reality
it perfectly sums up some of the most fundamental libertarian
concepts. 

The image is a counter example for the typical brain dead
statist who thinks he 'refutes' freeedom by asking "BUT WHO
WILL BUILD THE ROADS!?"

But there's an even more important point being made. The image
also counters the propertarian, right-wing, anti-freedom
nonsense about the nature of 'private' roads. 

See, animals, including human animals have been using roads
for millions of years, whithout having google-raytheon build
the roads and trying to own the people who use them. 

In other words, fascist, right-wing assholes posing as
'libertarians'  building roads and then chosing who can use
the road or not are a) not needed  b) a serious threat to
freedom. 

And just before I get called a 'commie', I don't object to
paying a free-mareket fee to use a paved road, which means I
pay and then I exercise my fucking right to free movement, no
fucking question asked. 

Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[juan]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 20:41:57 + (UTC)
jim bell  wrote:



> 
>  >  So, please stop defending STATE BORDERS like you did and stop
>     wholly misrepresenting libertarian philosphy. 
> 
> 
> I think I already said that I opposed government borders.

  That statement is at odds with previous comments you made (ICE,
  smearing of immigrants) so I have the 'right' to remain unconvinced. 



> > And it's quite funny how an engineer isn't  
>     aware of the fact that there is AIR TRAVEL and SEA TRAVEL and
>     that  right-wing fake 'anarchists' haven't claimed to own the
>     SEA and the SkY, at least YET.
> 
> 
> I was not including air travel and sea travel because I didn't
> consider it relevant to the current discussion.

  It just so happens that the topic of the discussion is FREEDOM.

  Freedom of movement to be more precise. So air and sea travel (and
  river-travel! and lake-travel!) are completely relevant. And they are
  counter examples to your fallacious position. And that's why you
  ignored them.


.
> 
> 
> If you don't believe in the concept of "private property" say so.
> But don't pretend that everybody has the same opinion as you. 


I am a natural rights anarchist. That means I fully understand
the logical consequneces of a political system based on rights
to LIFE, LIBERTY and property. 

See? Libertarianism is based on a hierarchy of 3 fundamental
rights. Property comes at the end.


> 
> I am aware, of course, that SOME anarchists oppose the idea of
> private property. 

That is not my case. See above.

Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[jim bell]

 

On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 12:30:10 PM PDT, juan  
wrote:  
 
 On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:43:27 + (UTC)
jim bell  wrote:


> I notice that you don't distinguish between public (government)
> borders and private (private property) borders.  Why is that?I oppose
> government borders.  But I believe in the concept of private
> property, which amounts to the right to exclude others from that
> property.  We live on the surface (2 dimensional, more or less) of a
> sphere (Earth) and we desire to travel and have goods (and
> information) brought to us.  That will require that roads 


>    Come on Jim. I already refuted your right wing, fake
    libertarian garbage.


Utter and complete nonsense.


> And it's quite funny how an engineer isn't
    aware of the fact that there is AIR TRAVEL and SEA TRAVEL and
    that  right-wing fake 'anarchists' haven't claimed to own the
    SEA and the SkY, at least YET.


I was not including air travel and sea travel because I didn't consider it 
relevant to the current discussion.


 >  So, please stop defending STATE BORDERS like you did and stop
    wholly misrepresenting libertarian philosphy. 


I think I already said that I opposed government borders.

 

> For what it's worth, I also oppose it when government requires people
> to show some sort of identification in order to travel. 

    Do you really? But that's what happens when ICE DOES ITS JOB
    eh? 


>> But I
>> believe I cannot prohibit it if a private (non-governmental) company
>> such as an airline decides, for itself, that it will insist on
>> identification in order to allow passengers to travel. 

  >  lawl - didn't your mommny teach you not to lie? You actually
  >  don't object to the police state as long as you can pretend
 >   it's 'private'.


If you don't believe in the concept of "private property" say so.  But don't 
pretend that everybody has the same opinion as you. 

I am aware, of course, that SOME anarchists oppose the idea of private 
property.  See   
http://www.infoshop.org/an-anarchist-faq-b-3-why-are-anarchists-against-private-property/

I consider that essay foolish, because it pretends that there is a valid 
distinction between two forms of property:

"B.3.1 What is the difference between private property and possession?
Anarchists define “private property” (or just “property,” for short) as 
state-protected monopolies of certain objects or privileges which are used to 
control and exploit others. “Possession,” on the other hand, is ownership of 
things that are not used to exploit others (e.g. a car, a refrigerator, a 
toothbrush, etc.). Thus many things can be considered as either property or 
possessions depending on how they are used."You will also 
notice that in that essay, the author grandly used terms like "anarchists 
believe" and "anarchists define".  One of the most foolish forms of debate is 
that in which a party effectively tries to define his position to be true, or 
his opponent's position to be false, or make grandly sweeping statements that 
over-state or mis-state reality.  Pretending that no possible anarchist can 
believe in private property (including by conveniently defining it away) is 
nonsense.  I consider there to be a major problem with that stance:  What is 
the alternative?  If there is essentially no private property, then the most 
obvious alternative is collective ownership.  But that implies the need for a 
big, controlling, and ultimately abusive government.  But really, that's not 
surprising:  The label "anarchist" is more than occasionally used by people, 
describing themselves, who really want to set up a big, abusive, controlling 
government.  They just find the term "anarchist" and "anarchism" to be stylish. 
 

               Jim Bell  

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

[Steve Kinney]

On 03/14/2018 11:40 AM, jim bell wrote:
> Security researchers find flaws in AMD chips but raise eyebrows with rushed 
> disclosure

[... ]

> Why the extremely non-technical video shot on green screen with stock 
> backgrounds composited in? Why the scare tactics of calling out AMD's use in 
> the military? Why don't the bugs have CVE numbers, the standard tracking 
> method for nearly all serious issues? Why was AMD given so little time to 
> respond? Why not, if as the FAQ suggests, some fixes could be created in a 
> matter of months, at least delay the publication until they were available? 
> And what's with the disclosure that CTS "may have, either directly or 
> indirectly, an economic interest in the performance" of AMD? That's not a 
> common disclosure in situations like this.

> * This article originally appeared on TechCrunch.

Why?  Well, why not?  I will guess that the folks at CTS Labs shorted
AMD and made other "side bets" to cash in on the impact of the
disclosure.  They may have also quietly negotiated some direct
compensation from AMD's competitors.  Why else skip the traditional
advance warning to the vendor, and spend money directly attacking AMD's
reputation in the market?

I for one approve of this approach to bug disclosure for a couple of
reasons.  First, the bigger the impact on AMD shareholder value, the
more shareholders will demand AMD and comparable vendors spend money on
quality assurance programs to reduce their exposure on this front.  In
the broader context of software markets, a trend toward monetizing bug
reports by maximizing their cost to affected vendors will do more harm
to closed commercial enterprises than free & open ones, both because the
commercial vendors ship more and worse bugs, and because that's where
money can be made just by disparaging the product.

If this business model becomes a trend, I think it will result in better
quality across the board in affected products and markets.

:o)




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Seasteading: A Crypto Future Beyond the State of Roads

[grarpamp]

> roads

Tolls and toll pigs likely to be found extremely annoying
and inefficient layers thus prohibitively detrimental to travel
and commerce. More likely are destinations co op building
free roads thus inviting others to them.

> 'anarchists' haven't claimed to own the
> SEA and the SkY, at least YET.

While the sky is a hard yet tasty pie to dream.
And the seas already ringed by statist economic cannonry
out to 200nm... beyond such distance lies good
potential for both floaters and perhaps even concrete
pilings. Solar and wave powered mining, acres of
soil on deck, hydroponics and hatcheries below, nuke
plants in the stern instead of landlubbers backyards.
Such options crypto adoption will bring ;)

Even Mars and the Moons...

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/83pgy2/elon_musk_holding_a_crypto_currency_book_in_his/

Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[jim bell]

 

On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 10:57:35 AM PDT, Marina Brown 
 wrote:  
> 
>> I am not in support of borders and i support people's right to
>> travel
> without "Papers".
> 
> 
> 
> I notice that you don't distinguish between public (government)
> borders and private (private property) borders.  Why is that? I
> oppose government borders.  But I believe in the concept of
> private property, which amounts to the right to exclude others from
> that property.  We live on the surface (2 dimensional, more or
> less) of a sphere (Earth) and we desire to travel and have goods
> (and information) brought to us.  That will require that roads and
> other utilities be constructed and maintained, and that costs
> money.  The people who finance such construction will therefore
> have rights.



[stuff deleted]


>> For what it's worth, I also oppose it when government requires
>> people to show some sort of identification in order to travel.  But
>> I believe I cannot prohibit it if a private (non-governmental)
>> company such as an airline decides, for itself, that it will insist
>> on identification in order to allow passengers to travel.  The risk
>> to fellow passengers has become too great (hijacking, bombing, etc)
>> to avoid this, sadly.  I COULD choose to take airlines that DIDN'T
>> require people to identify themselves.  Presumably, such airlines
>> will exist when that is allowed.


[stuff deleted]


>Most libertarians are opposed to collectivism. The idea that a
neihborhood or country is privately owned by the members who then
can keep anyone out or kick people out can become rather nightmarish
form of collectivism.

Maybe you need to think things through.   We are, indeed, stuck on a 
2-dimensional surface.   Currently, it is as if all roads are owned by some 
kind of government, a major example of collectivism.  Generally, libertarians 
tend to support organization (where it exists) at the lowest practical level, 
as opposed to higher levels.  Is there some reason that you think it's better 
that a city government over, say, 250,000 people to have control, rather than a 
neighborhood agreement by the owners of, say, 250 houses?   Or of 25 houses?


>I tend to support voluntary associations except when they become
repressive and totalitarian.


A person's control over his own property and assets might be (humorously) 
described as "repressive and totalitarian".    Remember the comic movie, 
"History of the World Part 1" by Mel Brooks:   "It's good to be the King!".As I 
see it, the alternative to private property is collective ownership, which 
quickly turns into Socialist and Communist control and oppression.  (And I 
consider Naziism to merely be another version of Socialism, see the Wikipedia 
article on Benito Mussolini.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini  ×


> Heck, even homeowner associations sometimes
become repressive. ...which is why i live out in the sticks where you
don't even need a permit to build things.


Perfectly good reason.  But maybe a better solution would be to ensure that 
"homowner associations" have no more power than they need, to do whatever they 
were originally intended to accomplish.  .  
                Jim Bell


  

Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[juan]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:43:27 + (UTC)
jim bell  wrote:


> 
> 
> I notice that you don't distinguish between public (government)
> borders and private (private property) borders.  Why is that?I oppose
> government borders.  But I believe in the concept of private
> property, which amounts to the right to exclude others from that
> property.  We live on the surface (2 dimensional, more or less) of a
> sphere (Earth) and we desire to travel and have goods (and
> information) brought to us.  That will require that roads 


Come on Jim. I already refuted your right wing, fake
libertarian garbage. And it's quite funny how an engineer isn't
aware of the fact that there is AIR TRAVEL and SEA TRAVEL and
that  right-wing fake 'anarchists' haven't claimed to own the
SEA and the SkY, at least YET.

So, please stop defending STATE BORDERS like you did and stop
wholly misrepresenting libertarian philosphy. 


 

> For what it's worth, I also oppose it when government requires people
> to show some sort of identification in order to travel. 

Do you really? But that's what happens when ICE DOES ITS JOB
eh? 


> But I
> believe I cannot prohibit it if a private (non-governmental) company
> such as an airline decides, for itself, that it will insist on
> identification in order to allow passengers to travel. 

lawl - didn't your mommny teach you not to lie? You actually
don't object to the police state as long as you can pretend
it's 'private'.


> The risk to
> fellow passengers has become too great (hijacking, bombing, etc)

ha ha ha - you are worse than pathetic. 

Jim Bell, posting pentagon propaganda about 'terrists' in the 
cpunks mailing list. Congrats! 

Re: Plebbit Jewtube Embark On Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap

[g2s]

 Original message From: Marina Brown  
Date: 3/22/18  10:52 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: g2s , 
cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Plebbit Jewtube Embark On Talmudic 
Censorship, CJOUD Act
  Warrantless Wiretap 
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On 03/22/2018 12:06 PM, g2s wrote:
> 
>  Original message  From: Marina Brown
>  Date: 3/22/18 7:10 AM (GMT-08:00) To:
> cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Plebbit Jewtube Embark On
> Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap
> 
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> 
> On 03/22/2018 09:49 AM, g2s wrote:
>> I see from the modded sj line you've gone full Nazi antisemite. 
>> Whodathunkit.
>> 
>> Rr
> 
> The nazi meme is so old and tired.
> 
> 
> But Nazis still exist and with them, memes.
> 
> Further, considering the Nazi MSM is saying because the American
> Nazi's hitherto unknown facemen, Milo and Spencer got bored with it
> and went on to sell products on InfoWars (milo) and claim they were
> simply 'tired of it' (spencer), your Nazi MSM would market the
> concept that Antifa, whatever that means, actually eliminated the
> historically longstanding Nazi tendency. Not JUST Fascist, Nazi,
> tendency in US society.
> 

Spencer appears to be self destructing, Milo well he had the seeds of
his own destruction within and they have detonated.

This does not mean the nazi threat is over. We need to watch watch watch
and play whack-a-mole wherever the illinois nazis shot their heads.


> Rr

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I HATE Illinois Nazis.https://youtu.be/ulCw7RJ5eE8
Rr

Rr

Re: Plebbit Jewtube Embark On Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap

[jim bell]

 On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 10:53:55 AM PDT, Marina Brown 
 wrote:
 
 
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On 03/22/2018 12:06 PM, g2s wrote:

>This does not mean the nazi threat is over. We need to watch watch watch
and play whack-a-mole wherever the illinois nazis shot their heads.



>From Blues Brothers:   "I hate Illinois Nazis!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulCw7RJ5eE8


           Jim Bell




  

Re: Cryptocurrencies: Real Value

[grarpamp]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/03/10/the-bitcoin-misery-index-bmi-is-flashing-a-buy-signal/

Cryptocurrencies: Real Value

[grarpamp]

Does Bitcoin Have Real Value
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8xeI2-y7hw

Fundamental Proposition / Principles / Fallacies
https://github.com/libbitcoin/libbitcoin/wiki/Cryptoeconomics

Math
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otf3-x0pKhQ

Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[Marina Brown]

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On 03/22/2018 01:43 PM, jim bell wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, March 21, 2018, 10:36:10 PM PDT, Marina Brown 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
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> On 03/22/2018 01:06 AM, jim bell wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 21, 2018, 3:37:48 PM PDT, juan 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 21:30:32 + (UTC) jim bell 
>> 
> >> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
 I don't have to agree with this, in order to recognize
 reality.
 
>> 
>>> Come on.
>> 
>>> If you actually didn't agree with this you'd denounce it as a 
>>> wholly criminal, anti-libertarian activity carried by the US 
>>> government.
>> 
>> 
>> So now, you are actually criticizing me for FAILING to engage in 
>> 'virtue signalling'!!!
>> 
>> Virtue signalling
>> 
> 
> 
> 
>> I am not in support of borders and i support people's right to
>> travel
> without "Papers".
> 
> 
> 
> I notice that you don't distinguish between public (government)
> borders and private (private property) borders.  Why is that? I
> oppose government borders.  But I believe in the concept of
> private property, which amounts to the right to exclude others from
> that property.  We live on the surface (2 dimensional, more or
> less) of a sphere (Earth) and we desire to travel and have goods
> (and information) brought to us.  That will require that roads and
> other utilities be constructed and maintained, and that costs
> money.  The people who finance such construction will therefore
> have rights.
> 
> Think of your neighborhood:  In the post-governmental (as we know
> it) future, people will voluntarily enter into contracts to build
> and maintain roads and other connections (power, water, sewer).
> This may limit those who don't enter into those contracts from
> using those roads.  Who knows what the owners/maintainers of those
> roads may agree to?
> 
> Not wanting to think about such eventualities doesn't mean that
> they won't eventually occur.
> 
> 
>> I grieved when Gilmore's right to travel case was decided against
>> him.
> 
> 
> For what it's worth, I also oppose it when government requires
> people to show some sort of identification in order to travel.  But
> I believe I cannot prohibit it if a private (non-governmental)
> company such as an airline decides, for itself, that it will insist
> on identification in order to allow passengers to travel.  The risk
> to fellow passengers has become too great (hijacking, bombing, etc)
> to avoid this, sadly.   I COULD choose to take airlines that DIDN'T
> require people to identify themselves.  Presumably, such airlines
> will exist when that is allowed.
> 
> 
> 
>> I guess travelling through E Germany in 1973 made a pretty heavy
> impression on me as a child.
> 
>> If you say i am "Virtue Signaling" that would be hillarious.
> 
> 
> 
> You will notice that I didn't say that.
> 
> Jim Bell
> 
> 
> 

Most libertarians are opposed to collectivism. The idea that a
neihborhood or country is privately owned by the members who then
can keep anyone out or kick people out can become rather nightmarish
form of collectivism.

I tend to support voluntary associations except when they become
repressive and totalitarian. Heck, even homeowner associations sometimes
become repressive. ...which is why i live out in the sticks where you
don't even need a permit to build things.
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Re: Plebbit Jewtube Embark On Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap

[Marina Brown]

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On 03/22/2018 12:06 PM, g2s wrote:
> 
>  Original message  From: Marina Brown
>  Date: 3/22/18 7:10 AM (GMT-08:00) To:
> cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Plebbit Jewtube Embark On
> Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256
> 
> On 03/22/2018 09:49 AM, g2s wrote:
>> I see from the modded sj line you've gone full Nazi antisemite. 
>> Whodathunkit.
>> 
>> Rr
> 
> The nazi meme is so old and tired.
> 
> 
> But Nazis still exist and with them, memes.
> 
> Further, considering the Nazi MSM is saying because the American
> Nazi's hitherto unknown facemen, Milo and Spencer got bored with it
> and went on to sell products on InfoWars (milo) and claim they were
> simply 'tired of it' (spencer), your Nazi MSM would market the
> concept that Antifa, whatever that means, actually eliminated the
> historically longstanding Nazi tendency. Not JUST Fascist, Nazi,
> tendency in US society.
> 

Spencer appears to be self destructing, Milo well he had the seeds of
his own destruction within and they have detonated.

This does not mean the nazi threat is over. We need to watch watch watch
and play whack-a-mole wherever the illinois nazis shot their heads.


> Rr

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Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[jim bell]

 

On Wednesday, March 21, 2018, 10:36:10 PM PDT, Marina Brown 
 wrote:  
 
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On 03/22/2018 01:06 AM, jim bell wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 21, 2018, 3:37:48 PM PDT, juan
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 21:30:32 + (UTC) jim bell
> > wrote:> 
>> 
>>> I don't have to agree with this, in order to recognize reality.
>>> 
> 
>> Come on.
> 
>> If you actually didn't agree with this you'd denounce it as a 
>> wholly criminal, anti-libertarian activity carried by the US 
>> government.
> 
> 
> So now, you are actually criticizing me for FAILING to engage in
> 'virtue signalling'!!!
> 
> Virtue signalling



>I am not in support of borders and i support people's right to travel
without "Papers".


I notice that you don't distinguish between public (government) borders and 
private (private property) borders.  Why is that?I oppose government borders.  
But I believe in the concept of private property, which amounts to the right to 
exclude others from that property.  We live on the surface (2 dimensional, more 
or less) of a sphere (Earth) and we desire to travel and have goods (and 
information) brought to us.  That will require that roads and other utilities 
be constructed and maintained, and that costs money.  The people who finance 
such construction will therefore have rights.
Think of your neighborhood:  In the post-governmental (as we know it) future, 
people will voluntarily enter into contracts to build and maintain roads and 
other connections (power, water, sewer).  This may limit those who don't enter 
into those contracts from using those roads.  Who knows what the 
owners/maintainers of those roads may agree to?  
Not wanting to think about such eventualities doesn't mean that they won't 
eventually occur.  

>I grieved when Gilmore's right to travel case was decided against him.

For what it's worth, I also oppose it when government requires people to show 
some sort of identification in order to travel.  But I believe I cannot 
prohibit it if a private (non-governmental) company such as an airline decides, 
for itself, that it will insist on identification in order to allow passengers 
to travel.  The risk to fellow passengers has become too great (hijacking, 
bombing, etc) to avoid this, sadly.   I COULD choose to take airlines that 
DIDN'T require people to identify themselves.  Presumably, such airlines will 
exist when that is allowed.


>I guess travelling through E Germany in 1973 made a pretty heavy
impression on me as a child.

>If you say i am "Virtue Signaling" that would be hillarious.


You will notice that I didn't say that.  
              Jim Bell



  

Re: Plebbit Jewtube Embark On Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap

[g2s]

 Original message From: Marina Brown  
Date: 3/22/18  7:10 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: 
Re: Plebbit Jewtube Embark On Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act
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On 03/22/2018 09:49 AM, g2s wrote:
> I see from the modded sj line you've gone full Nazi antisemite. 
> Whodathunkit.
> 
> Rr

The nazi meme is so old and tired.


But Nazis still exist and with them, memes.
 Further, considering the Nazi MSM is saying because the American Nazi's 
hitherto unknown facemen, Milo and Spencer got bored with it and went on to 
sell products on InfoWars (milo) and claim they were simply 'tired of it' 
(spencer), your Nazi MSM would market the concept that Antifa, whatever that 
means, actually eliminated the historically longstanding Nazi tendency. Not 
JUST Fascist, Nazi, tendency in US society.
Rr

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

[Georgi Guninski]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 09:24:24PM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> The original CPU design was purchased from the US, but a variety of chip
> makers have been improving on the design in a variety of ways, so it is not
> US cloned, but is US descended - rather distantly descended by now.

according to the interwebz, your system is ARM based and in addition ARM
is vulnerable to spectre. how many vulnerabilities like spectre affect
the "US design"?

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[Who Owned the Slave Ships ?]

> Marina Brown catskillmarina
> Thu Mar 22 07:10:57 PDT 2018

> The nazi meme is so old and tired.
Yes, please stop using the  insulting label created by the International
Jewish Council when they declared war on Germany in 1933 after they
discovered they had failed to destroy the Germanic people in WWI when
they tricked the Brittanic and Franco people into slaughtering their own
brothers and sisters.

It is a label that best fits the jewish people since that is its origin.
The Ashkenazi People.
Nazi People.

The Germans were:
The Wehrmacht Unified Armed Forces
or
The National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP)

Plebbit Jewtube Embark On Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act Acidless Spinaltap

[Who Owned the Slave Ships ?]

> juan juan.g71
> Thu Mar 22 02:21:13 PDT 2018

> why do you think joos thrive
Nepotism.
And the Holocaust lie.
6 million Germans were killed.

> a fascist cesspool
Abrahamic religions are like this.
What a shame.

> pretend he's not "white"
Mexican Spanish speakers tend to think this, too.

> "blacks" were first slaves
By other "blacks".
Using the court system to enforce.
And were enslaved beside a larger Celtic population.
This is how rock n roll music developed.
Celtic folk rhythm + African folk bass.
And, eventually, breakdance.

> moved to concentration camps
Projects or Public School ?

> third category 'citizens'
After who, jewz and muzlimz ?

There are currently three classes:
1st Class: Jews
2nd Class: People of "Color"
3rd Class: "Whites"

"Whites" are true "people of color".
[pic related]

Re: Plebbit Jewtube Embark On Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap

[Marina Brown]

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On 03/22/2018 09:49 AM, g2s wrote:
> I see from the modded sj line you've gone full Nazi antisemite. 
> Whodathunkit.
> 
> Rr

The nazi meme is so old and tired.
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Re: Plebbit Jewtube Embark On Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap

[g2s]

I see from the modded sj line you've gone full Nazi antisemite. Whodathunkit.
Rr
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Re: Reddit Youtube Embark On Massive Censorship, CLOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 09:08:13PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 04:48:21AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> > Hundreds of subs and channels being blacked out.
> 
> Good. Hopefully help wake up some sleepy pleebles.
> 
> 
> > Users in major uproar.
> 
> One can only hope this "uproar" is true...
> 
> 
> > https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/865gt2/rdarknetmarkets_shut_down_by_reddit/
> > https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/865ag9/youtube_bans_gun_sale_tutorial_videos_report/dw2xvso/
> > 
> > 
> > https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/867jo1/the_cloud_act_would_let_cops_get_our_data/
> > https://www.aclu.org/blog/privacy-technology/internet-privacy/cloud-act-dangerous-piece-legislation
> > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/new-backdoor-around-fourth-amendment-cloud-act
> > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/02/cloud-act-dangerous-expansion-police-snooping-cross-border-data
> > 
> > USA = Shit.
> 
> The host is well blead by the Jewish banking "elite", for many
> decades now.
> 
> The banker families probably look forward to a reset of the USD fiat
> ponzi, having siezed the gold and buying ever since with printed free
> money.
> 
> What's a good goy for if you can't leech it for decades?


For anyone in doubt, and for those who did not be aware yo:

  goy != white
  goy = non-Jew | non-hebrew | not chosenite

  although more strictly:
  goy = Christian | gentile

;wq

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

[jamesd]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 11:22:09AM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote:

I have therefore purchased some 64 bit Orange Pi PC2s running Ubuntu 16.04
server, for a ridiculously affordable computer cluster.


On 3/22/2018 6:10 PM, Georgi Guninski wrote:

Are these non-capitalist systems? Genuinely commies CPUs? Not cloned
reversed chips? About 30-40 years ago the commie block cloned Apple II
and Intel 8086 in own chips and the computers worked.


Communism is what the party says communism is - which these days is a 
good deal more capitalist than the US.


The original CPU design was purchased from the US, but a variety of chip 
makers have been improving on the design in a variety of ways, so it is 
not US cloned, but is US descended - rather distantly descended by now.

Re: Reddit Youtube Embark On Massive Censorship, CLOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 04:48:21AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> Hundreds of subs and channels being blacked out.

Good. Hopefully help wake up some sleepy pleebles.


> Users in major uproar.

One can only hope this "uproar" is true...


> https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/865gt2/rdarknetmarkets_shut_down_by_reddit/
> https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/865ag9/youtube_bans_gun_sale_tutorial_videos_report/dw2xvso/
> 
> 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/867jo1/the_cloud_act_would_let_cops_get_our_data/
> https://www.aclu.org/blog/privacy-technology/internet-privacy/cloud-act-dangerous-piece-legislation
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/new-backdoor-around-fourth-amendment-cloud-act
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/02/cloud-act-dangerous-expansion-police-snooping-cross-border-data
> 
> USA = Shit.

The host is well blead by the Jewish banking "elite", for many
decades now.

The banker families probably look forward to a reset of the USD fiat
ponzi, having siezed the gold and buying ever since with printed free
money.

What's a good goy for if you can't leech it for decades?

DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[My Niggers My Choice]

> juan juan.g71
> Thu Mar 22 02:02:53 PDT 2018

> don't even merit an answer.
Because you have no argument.

Other than your belief that people have no right to form groups.
Which is quite silly.

Plebbit Jewtube Embark On Talmudic Censorship, CJOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap

[My Borders My Choice]

> grarpamp grarpamp
> Thu Mar 22 01:48:21 PDT 2018

> USA = Shit.
I think you mean Jews = Shit.
The US is full of Germanic blood.
Jews hate the Germanic tribes.
Look what they did to Germany.
And Sweden.
And the UK.
Some commie faggot was just convicted of wrongspeak there.
> CJOUD (Clarifying Jewful Overseas Use of Data) Act
Private companies are responsible.
And their "paid" political stooges.
The people are responsible for not ushering in DOTR.
Excluding Jim Bell.

Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[juan]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 08:49:00 +
My Borders My Choice  wrote:


> [pic related]


please stop spamming the list. as to your nationalist vomits, sorry
they don't even merit an answer. 

DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project

[My Borders My Choice]

> Marina Brown catskillmarina
> Wed Mar 21 22:34:49 PDT 2018

> I am not in support of borders
> i support people's right to sex
> without "Permission".
My Borders My Choice.
[pic related]

> Gilmore's right to travel case
> decided against him
It wasn't.
It was decided in favor of the surveillance jew.
By the Ninth Court of Appeals.
The same niggers fucking up President Trump's Executive Orders.

> holding there was no constitutional violation
> because air passengers could still travel
> without identification if they instead underwent
> the more stringent "secondary screening" search.
> in January 2007 the court declined to hear the case
Well, that sure ain't de wei, now.
Identity is tied to airplane ticket.
No way to fly without.
The courts are cry men all actors here.
Fuck this gay timeline.

Reddit Youtube Embark On Massive Censorship, CLOUD Act Warrantless Wiretap

[grarpamp]

Hundreds of subs and channels being blacked out.
Users in major uproar.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/865gt2/rdarknetmarkets_shut_down_by_reddit/
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/865ag9/youtube_bans_gun_sale_tutorial_videos_report/dw2xvso/


https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/867jo1/the_cloud_act_would_let_cops_get_our_data/
https://www.aclu.org/blog/privacy-technology/internet-privacy/cloud-act-dangerous-piece-legislation
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/new-backdoor-around-fourth-amendment-cloud-act
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/02/cloud-act-dangerous-expansion-police-snooping-cross-border-data

USA = Shit.

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

[Georgi Guninski]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 11:22:09AM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> I have therefore purchased some 64 bit Orange Pi PC2s running Ubuntu 16.04
> server, for a ridiculously affordable computer cluster.  This is actually

Are these non-capitalist systems? Genuinely commies CPUs? Not cloned
reversed chips? About 30-40 years ago the commie block cloned Apple II
and Intel 8086 in own chips and the computers worked.

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

[jamesd]

jam...@echeque.com wrote:

I have therefore purchased some 64 bit Orange Pi PC2s


On 3/22/2018 11:58 AM, juan wrote:

so you assume the allwinner chip is backdoored by the chinese
and your US corporate masters don't have access to it?


I think the party would be most unhappy if my US corporate masters got 
access to it.  They want to backdoor China, but they do not want the US 
to backdoor China.