Re: Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 08:07:20PM -0500, John Newman wrote:
> 
> > On Dec 30, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> > 
> >> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 08:20:02PM -0500, John Newman wrote:
> >> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 07:42:28PM -, The Cuckq wrote:
>  On Wed, Dec 28 2016 05:33:39
>  "juan"  wrote:
>  brain dead scumbags like "The Cuckq"
> >>> 
> >>> lol
> >>> 
> >>> Tor is for people[1] like you[2]
> >>> 
> >>> [1]: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/cuckoldry
> >>> [2]: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/you
> >> 
> >> Dude, you're a fucking moron. Taking the nick "cuck" and posting links
> >> to ED just kills anything you might have had to say. 
> >> 
> >> How did such a fucking moronic meme catch on? Probably because
> >> theres a bunch of fucking dipshit trump-loving losers out there who
> >> methinks doth protest too much about "niggers fucking their wives".
> >> Freudian fantasy slip?
> >> John 
> > 
> > I guess, with such diplorum and subtlety, you must be referring to, in
> > your case, your frustating experiences watching not your wife, but your
> > boyfriend when you came home early unannounced 14 years ago?
> > 
> > Don't worry mate, you'll get over it one day ... perhaps when you're 88
> > and stuck in a rocking chair.
> 
> Naturally the biggest bag of shit on the list comes in to defend the term 
> cuck :)

No "term" needs defending - either it's useful or not.

Your choice words on the other hand are fit for the New York Times.

Nice to see you didn't get triggered by my response, and didn't divert
the point either. Might be labelled a shill otherwise ...

Re: Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[John Newman]

> On Dec 30, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 08:20:02PM -0500, John Newman wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 07:42:28PM -, The Cuckq wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 28 2016 05:33:39
 "juan"  wrote:
 brain dead scumbags like "The Cuckq"
>>> 
>>> lol
>>> 
>>> Tor is for people[1] like you[2]
>>> 
>>> [1]: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/cuckoldry
>>> [2]: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/you
>> 
>> Dude, you're a fucking moron. Taking the nick "cuck" and posting links
>> to ED just kills anything you might have had to say. 
>> 
>> How did such a fucking moronic meme catch on? Probably because
>> theres a bunch of fucking dipshit trump-loving losers out there who
>> methinks doth protest too much about "niggers fucking their wives".
>> Freudian fantasy slip?
>> John 
> 
> I guess, with such diplorum and subtlety, you must be referring to, in
> your case, your frustating experiences watching not your wife, but your
> boyfriend when you came home early unannounced 14 years ago?
> 
> Don't worry mate, you'll get over it one day ... perhaps when you're 88
> and stuck in a rocking chair.

Naturally the biggest bag of shit on the list comes in to defend the term cuck 
:)

Your little fantasy is sweet. I hope you didn't get spunk on the keyboard while 
typing it out one handed.

Re: Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[juan]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:15:54 -
"The Cuckq"  wrote:


hey, what does a scumbag like you do here, apart from trolling? 

Re: Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[juan]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:13:24 -
"The Cuckq"  wrote:

> > On Fri, Dec 30 2016 10:37:02
> > "juan" >juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > broken link
> 
> Here are your fixed links lol:
> 
> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Asperger's_Syndrome
> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/You
> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Cucks
> 
> They are broken by auto case change and cloudflamer



Thanks "The Cuckq" - You just made my point again, for the
third time. 

Your "https://encyclopediadramatica.se; link is broken. Just as
broken as you are. 

So let me spell it out for you, you world champion of fucking
retards : in my previous message and in this one I don't
*literally* mean that the links are broken. It is a "poetic
license". Look up what that means in 4-chan.

Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[The Cuckq]

> On Fri, Dec 30 2016 10:37:02
> "juan" >juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> broken link

Here are your fixed links lol:

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Asperger's_Syndrome
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/You
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Cucks

They are broken by auto case change and cloudflamer

Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[The Cuckq]

> On Wed, Dec 28 2016 14:49:04
> "juan"  indented:
> that's where people like me [1] get their
> 'science' eh.

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Science

Precisely

You might learn a lot about yourself, and others

[1]: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Asperger's_Syndrome

Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[The Cuckq]

> On Wed, Dec 28 2016 17:20:02
> "John Newman"  wrote:
> "cuck"

It's 'The Cuckq' to you, fam

> How did such a fucking moronic meme catch on?

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Meme

Read up sonny, you might learn[1] something

> trump-loving losers

Like you?

Isn't that why your beloved DNC got "Hakced"?

lol

[1]: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Learn_the_difference

Re: Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[John Newman]

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 07:42:28PM -, The Cuckq wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 28 2016 05:33:39
> > "juan"  wrote:
> > brain dead scumbags like "The Cuckq"
> 
> lol
> 
> Tor is for people[1] like you[2]
> 
> [1]: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/cuckoldry
> [2]: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/you

Dude, you're a fucking moron. Taking the nick "cuck" and posting links
to ED just kills anything you might have had to say. 

How did such a fucking moronic meme catch on? Probably because
theres a bunch of fucking dipshit trump-loving losers out there who
methinks doth protest too much about "niggers fucking their wives".
Freudian fantasy slip?

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[juan]

On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:42:28 -
"The Cuckq"  vomited:


> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/

that's where retarded, 8-year-old, 4-chan fascists get their
'science' eh.

 

Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[The Cuckq]

> On Wed, Dec 28 2016 05:33:39
> "juan"  wrote:
> brain dead scumbags like "The Cuckq"

lol

Tor is for people[1] like you[2]

[1]: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/cuckoldry
[2]: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/you

Re: Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[Me]

The Grugq was an 0day reseller who transitioned to Infosec/Opsec bobblehead.  
Still maintaining close ties to the hand that feeds.



On December 28, 2016 4:25:47 AM CST, The Cuckq  wrote:
>> the.grugq at gmail.com:
>> panacea
>
>No shit.  Prevention is the point of Tor, not damage mitigation, i.e.,
>"healing"
>
>> privacy activist cult
>
>TIL: privacy = cult
>
>> I got triggered
>
>What a fagq
>
>> strong security posture
>
>It is only posturing, isn't it
>
>> security (and/or privacy)
>
>Without security there is no privacy; isn't this guy a philosopher
>king; wtf
>
>> VPN provides the same protections
>
>Bullshit, VPNs are guaranteed to fail
>
>Tor is at least a gamble, until trust-aware path selection enables a
>better experience
>
>> Tor has only one use case – to evade the authorities
>
>This fuckq with the pro-LEA false narratives
>
>> VPNs are (typically) not actively malicious
>
>Neither are "whites"
>
>> and you have no good reason to use it
>> except as an evasion tool against state authorities
>
>Again with the false narratives
>
>> Tor Browser Bundle is the worst browser possible
>
>I guess he never used IE/Edge or Chrome
>
>What a newb
>
>> Anonymity is essentially a property of a system that ensures any user
>> is equally likely to be the source of an event
>
>This guy is fucking retarded
>
>Not knowing who dun it doesn't mean it could be anybody
>
>> Diversity is obviously less good for anonymity
>
>Seeing a user as a regular Chrome, FF, or Safari user does more for
>anonymity than Tor homogeneity
>
>> Global Passive Adversary
>
>It is clear that they are actively attacking people, why use inaccurate
>labels

-- 
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Re: Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[juan]

On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:25:47 -
"The Cuckq"  wrote:


> 
> > privacy activist cult
> 
> TIL: privacy = cult


fake privacy activist cult indeed, perfectly illustrated by
brain dead scumbags like "The Cuckq"  

Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[The Cuckq]

> the.grugq at gmail.com:
> panacea

No shit.  Prevention is the point of Tor, not damage mitigation, i.e.,
"healing"

> privacy activist cult

TIL: privacy = cult

> I got triggered

What a fagq

> strong security posture

It is only posturing, isn't it

> security (and/or privacy)

Without security there is no privacy; isn't this guy a philosopher king; wtf

> VPN provides the same protections

Bullshit, VPNs are guaranteed to fail

Tor is at least a gamble, until trust-aware path selection enables a
better experience

> Tor has only one use case – to evade the authorities

This fuckq with the pro-LEA false narratives

> VPNs are (typically) not actively malicious

Neither are "whites"

> and you have no good reason to use it
> except as an evasion tool against state authorities

Again with the false narratives

> Tor Browser Bundle is the worst browser possible

I guess he never used IE/Edge or Chrome

What a newb

> Anonymity is essentially a property of a system that ensures any user
> is equally likely to be the source of an event

This guy is fucking retarded

Not knowing who dun it doesn't mean it could be anybody

> Diversity is obviously less good for anonymity

Seeing a user as a regular Chrome, FF, or Safari user does more for
anonymity than Tor homogeneity

> Global Passive Adversary

It is clear that they are actively attacking people, why use inaccurate
labels

Grugq: Tor No Panacea

[grarpamp]

https://medium.com/@thegrugq/tor-and-its-discontents-ef5164845908
Tor and its Discontents
Problems with Tor usage as panacea
This post deals with problems related to Tor usage that are not
technical. I try to look at the human side of things, and I’m quite
concerned by the meme of Tor as “panacea solution to arbitrary infosec
problems.” I don’t particularly want to fight the privacy activist
cult that has developed around Tor, but I feel compelled to state my
concerns. (Also, I got triggered by Dan Guido who is writing on the
same topic.) ...