Re: FBI moves to route internet through central servers:Another dagger in the Heart of Freedom in America
Here's somemore: http://www.mysteria.com/bbsinfo/ Samuli Suonpaa wrote: Mark Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 11:06:51AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - re-awaken FidoNet FidoNet, ugh. Would the software even work under most current operating systems? Yes it would. At least some of the software, that is. Anyone interested in bbs-software with all Fidonet-components built in, capability to act as an SMTP-MTA, ftpd, httpd (I think), handles usenet also, can be used with http also... It does work at least on Linux/Intel, Linux/Sparc, Linux/Alpha, FreeBSD/Intel, Amiga, Windows NT, PC-DOS, OS/2... And no, it is not Open Source. More information at http://www.bbbs.net, if memory serves. Suonpdd... -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html
Re: FBI moves to route internet through central servers:Another dagger in the Heart of Freedom in America
And more yet: http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=21discrim=175 Samuli Suonpaa wrote: Mark Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 11:06:51AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - re-awaken FidoNet FidoNet, ugh. Would the software even work under most current operating systems? Yes it would. At least some of the software, that is. Anyone interested in bbs-software with all Fidonet-components built in, capability to act as an SMTP-MTA, ftpd, httpd (I think), handles usenet also, can be used with http also... It does work at least on Linux/Intel, Linux/Sparc, Linux/Alpha, FreeBSD/Intel, Amiga, Windows NT, PC-DOS, OS/2... And no, it is not Open Source. More information at http://www.bbbs.net, if memory serves. Suonpdd... -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html
Did you get your check?
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Re: [Fwd: [biofuel] VW presents new synthetic fuel strategy]
Here's a site comparing corn to other fuels: http://burncorn.com/CountrysideCostAnalysis.php And realize that organic/sustainable agriculture is gaining ground rapidly, at least in the US and Europe, and they *can* grow crops with equal or higher yeilds than chemically dependant farmers. So the environmental issue is really a straw horse. Besides which, there are a great many other non-traditional crops which yeild far better than corn. Take cattails, for instance. http://newcrop.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Typha.html Yields of 1000-4700 gallons per acre (depending on climate and how many crops per year) are possible. Most farmers here in WI have portions of fields which are unusable in wet years -- don't fight nature, go with the flow, stop draining those areas and plant them to cattail instead. Simple stuff -- just a lack of knowledge, really. Bill Stewart wrote: At 02:54 PM 10/26/2001 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Biodiesel is being sold in the US as we speak for anywhere from $.99 to $2.50 a gallon, depending upon whether it's made from waste or virgin vegetable oil. Given the economies of scale working here, once they build up a larger presence, those prices will drop. And, if I'm not mistaken, much of Europe is already mandating that all diesel be sold with at least 20% biodiesel. You might also look at Brazil which fuels a large portion of it's vehicles with ethanol already. VW's new fuel will be even cheaper. Making biodiesel from virgin oil scales well, since you can use non-food-grade oils, but there's still a substantial ecological effect of converting land from non-farming or food-farming to energy-farming. Waste vegetable oil has a much different scaling ability - until you get most fast-food french-fry leftovers used for fuel oil, it scales up really well, but after that it hits the wall. Ethanol has similar problems - you need to grow a lot of sugary or starchy crops, which not only displace food crops (having similar land needs), but at least in third-world countries tend to be grown by slash-and-burn agriculture, which rapidly destroys land, usually rainforest. On the other hand, for an area that doesn't have oil, the tradeoff between wasting farmland for energy crops and using it for export crops to buy energy from outside could go either way. Of course, when the area has government boundaries defining it, especially in the third world, there tends to be a huge amount of social policy and/or corruption distorting the market prices. But sometimes you can exploit other governments' corrupt social policies, e.g. grow cocaine or opium and buy oil or food or toys with the profits. -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html
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Re: FBI wants to have Internet Off-switch
You may want to look at Baker's denial I sent to Politech today. -Declan On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:51:00AM -0700, Anonymous wrote: Reading the article it looks more like the kind of news that's playing a lot these days: the story of 'something is not yet being done', nobody is claiming to be doing it, but it could be done and the majority of people would support it. A kind of no news is news story. At the same time, if Baker, attorney with Steptoe (god what a perfect name!), were aware of this and leaked it to the press based on work he is doing with the FBI, wouldn't he be subject to imprisonment or at least civil and professional penalties for violation of attorney-client confidentiality? Unless the FBI wants it leaked. And why? To gauge reaction perhaps. To tell the frogs the heat's going to be turned up a notch? But it also could be Baker trying to keep warm in the sunshine of publicity by having something to say. At the same time spouting this information would be a most egregious violation of at least SOMEthing. Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice!
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reuters: U.S. Military Unveils Smart ID Card.
Monday October 29 3:01 PM ET U.S. Military Unveils Smart ID Card http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011029/tc/tech_military_usa_dc_1.html By Andrea Shalal-Esa WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Top U.S. military officials on Monday unveiled a new generation of ``smart'' identity cards, but were still weighing whether to add medical data and other information to the chip-based ID cards. The Defense Department said it expected to issue the chip-based ``common access cards'' to 4.3 million military personnel -- including active military, selected reserves, civilian employees and some contractors -- within the next 15 months. Officials said the cards, which include a photograph, bar code, magnetic strip and other identifying text, would help tighten security on access at 900 U.S. military sites worldwide, including the Pentagon (news - web sites), and to computer networks, including access to encrypted e-mail and online transactions. ``The big benefits are in the area of security,'' said Dr. David Chu, undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, told Reuters. ``You can know who was in a facility at a given time.'' He said that issue had taken on new importance after the Sept. 11 hijacking attacks and the discovery of anthrax-laced letters, which has prompted the government to put thousands of postal workers and others exposed to the potentially deadly bacteria on antibiotics. ``This technology is an important tool to improving the way the Defense Department does business,'' he said. Once the cards are widely distributed, the military could also use them to help create manifests for troop deployments, greatly speeding a process that can last hours now, officials said. Holders could also use the cards to book and file travel plans and expenses, officials said. MEDICAL DATA COULD BE ADDED LATER The military later could add encrypted medical information to the cards, or simply use them to access secure computer files with that information, Chu said. But, he said there would be benefits and risks to such a move, and the Pentagon had not yet approved it. Mary Dixon, director of the Defense Department's access card office, said officials were mindful of service members' privacy concerns. Assistant Secretary of Defense John Stenbit said other countries such as South Africa already used such cards to control access to voting booths and welfare benefits. Officials at the Pentagon and EDS Corp. (NYSE:EDS - news), the main contractor for the smart cards, said efforts were underway to boost the capacity of the cards within a year. Efforts were also underway to add an individual's fingerprint, which could be ready for implementation within two years, said Ken Scheflen, director of the Defense Manpower Data Center. Scheflen said the Pentagon's experience with the new technology could prove useful in any move to create national identification cards for the United States, but no such discussions were underway. While the military had no trouble authenticating its users, it could prove more difficult to do so if each American was issued a national ID -- potentially over 200 million people, Scheflen said.
Singing The War Prayer
but in all candor, dont ya think that if a guy is there who SHOULDNT be there, he wouldnt be there after a decent timeframe of investigation? notwithstanding other manners of recent injustices of justice, i.e., Mitnick et al, in this day and age, with '1000' under the microscope, doncha think odds are that some of these guys woulda made it out without incident? holy shit what are the chances that the evidence shows they are complicit?! down to the last one of them! Tell that to 40,000 Japanese-Americans, Fed. Heres the message we should try to send with our words and our actions: Dont fuck up and try to kill Americans. Because we will fuck you in your ass with a greased lightning tomahawk missile that will gut you and your camel, and the 5 wives you both rode in on... along with those 15 little terrorists a year you keep pumping out, in your own words. By the way, forget about sex for fun with those broads... apparently there is a mandate to 'copulate to populate, not just to fornicate'. SNAP, after lookin at some of 'dat shit, I would rather masturbate. No wonder they wear veils, dey breath must stank to High Heaven. If what I saw in the papers this morning is called a surgical strike, who do I sue for malpractice? -- The War Prayer by Mark Twain It was a time of great and exalting excitement. The country was up in arms, the war was on, in every breast burned the holy fire of patriotism; the drums were beating, the bands playing, the toy pistols popping, the bunched firecrackers hissing and spluttering; on every hand and far down the receding and fading spread of roofs and balconies a fluttering wilderness of flags flashed in the sun; daily the young volunteers marched down the wide avenue gay and fine in their new uniforms, the proud fathers and mothers and sisters and sweethearts cheering them with voices choked with happy emotion as they swung by; nightly the packed mass meetings listened, panting, to patriot oratory which stirred the deepest deeps of their hearts, and which they interrupted at briefest intervals with cyclones of applause, the tears running down their cheeks the while; in the churches the pastors preached devotion to flag and country, and invoked the God of Battles beseeching His aid in our good cause in outpourings of fervid eloquence which moved every listener. It was indeed a glad and gracious time, and the half dozen rash spirits that ventured to disapprove of the war and cast a doubt upon its righteousness straightway got such a stern and angry warning that for their personal safety's sake they quickly shrank out of sight and offended no more in that way. Sunday morning came -- next day the battalions would leave for the front; the church was filled; the volunteers were there, their young faces alight with martial dreams -- visions of the stern advance, the gathering momentum, the rushing charge, the flashing sabers, the flight of the foe, the tumult, the enveloping smoke, the fierce pursuit, the surrender! Then home from the war, bronzed heroes, welcomed, adored, submerged in golden seas of glory! With the volunteers sat their dear ones, proud, happy, and envied by the neighbors and friends who had no sons and brothers to send forth to the field of honor, there to win for the flag, or, failing, die the noblest of noble deaths. The service proceeded; a war chapter from the Old Testament was read; the first prayer was said; it was followed by an organ burst that shook the building, and with one impulse the house rose, with glowing eyes and beating hearts, and poured out that tremendous invocation *God the all-terrible! Thou who ordainest! Thunder thy clarion and lightning thy sword!* Then came the long prayer. None could remember the like of it for passionate pleading and moving and beautiful language. The burden of its supplication was, that an ever-merciful and benignant Father of us all would watch over our noble young soldiers, and aid, comfort, and encourage them in their patriotic work; bless them, shield them in the day of battle and the hour of peril, bear them in His mighty hand, make them strong and confident, invincible in the bloody onset; help them to crush the foe, grant to them and to their flag and country imperishable honor and glory -- An aged stranger entered and moved with slow and noiseless step up the main aisle, his eyes fixed upon the minister, his long body clothed in a robe that reached to his feet, his head bare, his white hair descending in a frothy cataract to his shoulders, his seamy face unnaturally pale, pale even to ghastliness. With all eyes following him and wondering, he made his silent way; without pausing, he ascended to the preacher's side and stood there waiting. With shut lids the preacher, unconscious of his presence, continued with his moving prayer, and at last finished it with the words, uttered in fervent appeal, Bless our arms, grant us the victory, O
Re: FBI wants to have Internet Off-switch
Yes, thanks. I completely neglected to enumerate the possibility that the reporter got it all wrong, the most probable explanation for the conundri of Baker's purported utterings. Reporters are, after all, lamers. :) You may want to look at Baker's denial I sent to Politech today. -Declan On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:51:00AM -0700, Anonymous wrote: Reading the article
Stew Baker: Fox News goes overboard
For those who haven't seen the Baker rebuttal, that Declan mentioned, here it is- elyn Fox News recently reported that the FBI has a plan to change the architecture of the Internet, centralizing it and providing a technical backdoor to the networks of Internet service providers. Like many others, I thought this was big news, and rather surprising. Until I realized that the reporter only cited one source and that it was, well, me. Fox News's claims go beyond the facts I provided to her, and beyond any that I know about. To be clear, I believe that the FBI is at work on an initiative to make Internet communications, indeed any packet data communications, more susceptible to intercept and more productive of non-content data about communications -- the sort of pen register data that was expressly approved for Internet communications in the recent antiterrorism bill. This initiative will have architectural implications for packet data communications systems. The FBI is likely to press providers of those services to centralize communications in nodes where interception will be more convenient, and it is likely to call on packet data services to build systems that provide more information about the communications of their subscribers. The vehicle for this initiative is CALEA, the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, a 1994 enactment that actually requires telecom carriers to redesign their networks to provide better wiretap capabilities. The act is supposed to exempt information services, but the vagueness of that provision has encouraged the FBI to expand its mandate into packet-data communications. The Bureau is now preparing a general CALEA proposal for all packet-data systems. While I have not seen it, the Bureau's past interventions into packet-data and other communications architecture have had two characteristics -- they have sought more centralization in order to simplify interception and they have asked providers to generate new data messages about their subscribers' activities -- messages that are of value only to law enforcement. There are real legal and policy questions that should be raised about this effort. In my view, it goes beyond what Congress intended in 1994. And the implications for Internet users and technologies deserve to be debated. But making these points, as I did with Fox News, is not the same as saying that the FBI has a firm plan to centralize the Internet and build back doors into all ISP networks. If Fox News wants to break that story, it will need a source other than me. Stewart Baker Steptoe Johnson LLP 1330 Connecticut Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20036
Secret Nuke Takeout Team
Seymour Hersh, The Risks of Pakistan's Nuclear Arsenal, The New Yorker, October 29, 2001: http://cryptome.org/paki-nukes.htm In recent weeks an ilite Pentagon undercover unit -- trained to slip into foreign countries and find suspected nuclear weapons, and disarm them if necessary -- has explored plans for an operation inside Pakistan. In 1998, Pakistan successfully tested a nuclear device, heralded as the Islamic world's first atomic bomb. According to United States government estimates, Pakistan now has at least twenty-four warheads, which can be delivered by intermediate-range missiles and a fleet of F-16 aircraft. Some of the government's most experienced South Asia experts have doubts about Musharraf's ability to maintain control over the military and its nuclear arsenal in the event of a coup; there are also fears that a dissident group of fundamentalist officers might try to seize a warhead. The Army and the influential Inter-Services Intelligence, or I.S.I., have long-standing religious and personal ties to many of the leaders of the Taliban, dating back to Afghanistan's war against the Soviet Union in the nineteen-eighties, when Pakistan was the main conduit for American support. The crisis may bring into play the ilite unit, operating under Pentagon control with C.I.A. assistance, whose mission it is to destroy nuclear facilities, past and present government officials told me. 'They're good,' one American said. 'If they screw up, they die. They've had good success in proving the negative' -- that is, in determining that suspected facilities were not nuclear-related. The American team is apparently getting help from Israel's most successful special-operations unit, the storied Sayeret Matkal, also known as Unit 262, a deep-penetration unit that has been involved in assassinations, the theft of foreign signals-intelligence materials, and the theft and destruction of foreign nuclear weaponry. Members of the Israeli unit arrived in the United States a few days after September 11th, an informed source said, and as of last week were training with American special-forces units at undisclosed locations.
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This is Brad Templeton from the EFF. This Wednesday I'm moderating a panel at Jeff Pulver's semi-annual conference on Presence and Instant Messaging. It's a smallish (couple of hundred) conference where you'll see most of the commercial players in instant messaging, with the very notable exception of AOL. However, having attended this conference I have found that most of the people there pay little attention to issues of security and privacy in the IM world. Sometimes for real reasons (most IM is forced by NAT and firewalls to be routed through central servers) but often times simply because they haven't bothered. The panel I am moderating is on these topics of Presence and Instant Messaging, and due to various circumstances, right now I have only 2 other speakers on it, who will speak about the privacy and security work being done by two standards bodies, the PAM formum, and the IETF SIP working group. I have my own talk on the design and political issues, but I can move a lot of that into my plenary talk later in the day where I want to get those issues out. In particular I am interested in technologically interesting projects or research to allow privacy, encryption and anonymity in instant messaging, and also in presence data and location-aware devices. (Part of the conference is also on location aware services, E911 manadated location-aware phones etc.) So I apologize for not asking until today, but if you have done any work in these areas you would like to talk about briefly, I could have a slot for you, and get you free attendance at this normally $2,000 conference. Last time Lenny Foner gave a great talk on his work. The conference info is at http://www.pulver.com/pim/ and my session is This Wedesday, Oct 31, at 9:45am. It is at the Marriott in Santa Clara. Sorry as well for posting without regularly reading cypherpunks, but I need to keep my email load down.
acting in self-defence; this is your CIA on AP
The US defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, confirmed reports of such a move yesterday by telling CNN that the US would be acting in self-defence in carrying out such missions. acting in self-defence sounds better in Hebrew...
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Re: Singing The War Prayer
Mr. Melon, 40,000 Japanese in internment camps is a different situation entirely compared to the Middle Eastern contingency of terror we have today. Are there 40,000 'interned' at this time? No. Is our technical intelligence better this time? I would say so, given the Evolution of Related Things. Thats why 40,000 arent sitting in holding pens now. That would be Bad. Would you prefer that NONE be held? Dont act as if everyone is innocent, dude. Theres a good reason for those people to be in there, and its not 'just because'. Theres a BIG difference between 1000 and 40,000! I could think of a few thousand people I wouldnt mind seeing in jail... but it cant be done because it wouldnt happen just to appease my Political Incorrectness so I have a Feel Good Notion that the right thing is being done here, and not at the whim of any racial stereotype or bias. You probably wouldnt mind if NONE were held, but then again you probably havent been in the trenches long, if at all. But this isnt a place to hold up our accomplishments, achievements and accolades. Right now, I would be more concerned about roving wiretaps and warrantless searches and the like. Oh, yes and theres that internet thing. Hey, f the foreigners... we got a problem with our own privacy here. Are we one step closer as natives to being in the same boat with them and this New Scrutiny? I hope not. Screw the 'Fed' insult, thats lame. I think a 'Fed' would tow a More Accurate party line than was towed, so dont get ugly cuz professional uglies are not allowed, further disqualifying yourself. So, now what... I wouldnt mind a few 'black bag' jobs to make it through to summer (i almost used another term, but thought better, this being PT, cripes). I have nothing to do over the Christmas Holidays, and bandwidth to spare. Oh I am not proficient with anything other than English, TCP/IP or Straight Out Killing Bitches With My Superior Dim Mak Technique. Shit, a regular Triple Threat! (ok, i didnt know whether to laugh or groan either, right there). That doesnt make a guy a fed. It perhaps makes a guy an opportunist. Or hows this: someone who is tired of being shat on. Do you believe the policies of USA put us in this position? I believe EVERYBODYS policies put us here. Not a one way street, buddy. Now we gotta deal with it, cuz its HERE upon us. And kneejerk reactions from the left and right make us just crazy, dont they? YES, I am tired of seeing dead people, THEY are tired of seeing dead people, and since they arent gonna stop, and since they are gonna use the creepy way of killing US civvies then F them. F them for making us all pay with our own paranoia. Move forward not backward, dwelling on past policies aint gonna help now. Focus on homeland safety and privacy and Our Boys Over There. Shit, most of us remain untouched by this business... but we are all more paranoid now because of this escalation. And every step USG takes is another step less breathing room for someone somewhere out there. I happen to like my breathing room, and theres only so much to go around. By the way, sign me up for your Nuke Take Out Team. I am completely expendable, I have no family members that depend on me, and I am technically proficient enough to do most electrical work, and highly trained in Martial Arts and personal hygiene, and I love This Country. gatton
Re: Singing The War Prayer
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Incognito Innominatus wrote: Mr. Melon, 40,000 Japanese in internment camps is a different situation entirely compared to the Middle Eastern contingency of terror we have today. Are there 40,000 'interned' at this time? No. I suggest you look at the number of Palestinians involved. More than 40k by a tad. -- The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Pravda Propaganda On The NRA, GOA and Militias
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, alphabeta121 wrote: This article touches on a note that irritates me, a pro-Capitalist, pro-gun American. The fact that many militias, 'right winger's' and so on are claiming that global corporations, the wealthy, and ruling-class billionaires as being behind the plot to take away America's Second Amendment rights. I'll agree that global corperations (such as lowe's) and ruling-class billionaires (such as George Soros) are 'behind the plot to take away 2nd amendment rights. But generalizing that to the wealthy is a big mistake. No it isn't. Poor people don't make the sorts of contributions (and concommitent expectations) into the coffers of the political. -- The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
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Re: Singing The War Prayer
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Re: Singing The War Prayer
choad, Are the palestinians interned here in the US? No. So now hopefully we can move on to relevant subject matter now... after the attempted railroading by someone who got fired from a blow-job. Les keep it real. gatton
Re: Singing The War Prayer
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Incognito Innominatus wrote: choad, Are the palestinians interned here in the US? No. So now hopefully we can move on to relevant subject matter now... I keep hoping but you keep coming up with the irrelevant crap like this... -- The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Pravda Propaganda On The NRA, GOA and Militias
http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2001/10/18/18529.html
Oct, 18 2001
20:11 2001-10-18
BILL WHITE: GUN GROUPS SEE STEADY BLEED INTO MILITIAS; DOMESTIC UNREST
STILL GROWING IN UNITED STATES
There are three issues that motivate America's militia movement - support
of gun rights, opposition to taxation, and opposition to the United
Nations and the loss of America's sovereignty to global corporate rule -
a system the militias see as socialism and anti-globalists label
capitalism, and which is really a blend of the worst elements of the two.
Amazing that a Russian publication (is it really Russian, or just
reprinted by them?) gets this so right. Nearly all American journalists
just babble about skinheads and survivalists when they talk about the
militia movement.
Back when LaRouche was being a leftist, it was obvious that
the Evil Rockefeller {Commie/Capitalist} Jewish Bankers' Conspiracy
must be running the world, because everybody from wacko lefties
to rightwingers like the Birchers and the more extreme rightwing wackos
said so.
The Real Activists
The Southern Poverty Law Center, a rather shady group of lawyers who make
profit by suing organizations they label as hateful,
Wow. It takes a Russian to call a spade a spade.
The SPLC is the most anti-liberty organization in the U.S.
Words fail me in describing them.
The SPLC may have its problems, but it looks a lot like
Pravda's problem with them is that they're Jews.
Agreed. Too bad Bush is pushing the New World Order agenda,
though I suppose it was thrust upon him by events.
Al Gore certainly would have been even more internationalist.
Bush Sr. was the guy who got us into the whole New World Order biz;
to see his son, elected because of his father's clout (ok, and the
lack of any credible Republican opposition) and surrounded by his
father's cronies, do anything else would have been highly surprising.
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[This afternoon I received a spam with an odd address in the To: field. It had the same prefix (lvcm) as my ISP but had the .net suffix (instead of .com) I decided on a little experiment, sending a test message and received the following results. Does this look at all odd? steve] Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:21:31 -0800 (PST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Returned mail: Too many hops 26 (25 max): from [EMAIL PROTECTED] via 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) The original message was received at Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:21:31 -0800 (PST) from 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80] - The following addresses had permanent delivery errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reporting-MTA: dns; mt1.lvcm.net Received-From-MTA: DNS; 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net Arrival-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:21:31 -0800 (PST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.4.6 Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:21:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by mt1.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APT41223; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mt1.lvcm.net (mt1.lvcm.net [24.234.0.82]) by 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQT35403; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by mt1.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APT40924; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mt1.lvcm.net (mt1.lvcm.net [24.234.0.82]) by 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQT34912; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by mt1.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APT39692; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:16:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mt1.lvcm.net (mt1.lvcm.net [24.234.0.82]) by 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQT34407; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by mt1.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APT38471; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mt1.lvcm.net (mt1.lvcm.net [24.234.0.82]) by 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQT33318; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by mt1.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APT35863; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mt1.lvcm.net (mt1.lvcm.net [24.234.0.82]) by 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQT33242; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by mt1.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APT35764; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:04:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mt1.lvcm.net (mt1.lvcm.net [24.234.0.82]) by 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQT33216; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:03:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by mt1.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APT35731; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:03:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mt1.lvcm.net (mt1.lvcm.net [24.234.0.82]) by 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQT31707; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by mt1.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APT31709; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mt1.lvcm.net (mt1.lvcm.net [24.234.0.82]) by 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQT29929; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:34:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by mt1.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APT27287; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:34:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mt1.lvcm.net (mt1.lvcm.net [24.234.0.82]) by 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQT29510; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by mt1.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APT26160; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:29:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mt1.lvcm.net (mt1.lvcm.net [24.234.0.82]) by 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQT27619; Mon, 29 Oct 2001
Up to 15 Chinese Fighting with Taliban Killed by US Troops!
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Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
Today, Snowhite was turning 18. The 7 Dwarfs always where very educated and polite with Snowhite. When they go out work at mornign, they promissed a *huge* surprise. Snowhite was anxious. Suddlently, the door open, and the Seven Dwarfs enter... attachment: sexy virgin.scr
Re: CDR: Re: Singing The War Prayer
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Incognito Innominatus wrote: Mr. Melon, ^ I get a chuckle out of this every time I see it :-) snip Are there 40,000 'interned' at this time? No. 1000 according to what I've read, more according to people in the community. Is our technical intelligence better this time? I would say so, given the Evolution of Related Things. Thats why 40,000 arent sitting in holding pens now. So until we hit 40k we are ok? You are an idiot. That would be Bad. Would you prefer that NONE be held? Yes. Charge them legitimately or let them go. Dont act as if everyone is innocent, dude. Theres a good reason for those people to be in there, and its not 'just because'. Theres a BIG difference between 1000 and 40,000! No, there is not a big difference. There is no real difference, and it is fascist scum like YOU that gets us into these [9/110like] messes in the first place. gatton Huh? Is this your accidental identifier? To quote Tim - off to the Cornfield for you. If only I could automate it :-( -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: [Fwd: [biofuel] VW presents new synthetic fuel strategy]
Earlier this year I saw an interesting presentation at the NY Academy of Sciences by the head science guy from Genencor Int'l.( http://www.genencor.com ) He talked about some of the long range research they are doing about enzymes which will allow them to use protiens, starches and cellulose from agricultural sources to make useful polymers. They are a long way from replacing oil as the feedstock but the research they are doing is pretty interesting though not really focused on automotive fuel so much as other petrochemicals. Jim Windle -- On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 22:26:11 Bill Stewart wrote: At 02:54 PM 10/26/2001 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Biodiesel is being sold in the US as we speak for anywhere from $.99 to $2.50 a gallon, depending upon whether it's made from waste or virgin vegetable oil. Given the economies of scale working here, once they build up a larger presence, those prices will drop. And, if I'm not mistaken, much of Europe is already mandating that all diesel be sold with at least 20% biodiesel. You might also look at Brazil which fuels a large portion of it's vehicles with ethanol already. VW's new fuel will be even cheaper. Making biodiesel from virgin oil scales well, since you can use non-food-grade oils, but there's still a substantial ecological effect of converting land from non-farming or food-farming to energy-farming. Waste vegetable oil has a much different scaling ability - until you get most fast-food french-fry leftovers used for fuel oil, it scales up really well, but after that it hits the wall. Ethanol has similar problems - you need to grow a lot of sugary or starchy crops, which not only displace food crops (having similar land needs), but at least in third-world countries tend to be grown by slash-and-burn agriculture, which rapidly destroys land, usually rainforest. On the other hand, for an area that doesn't have oil, the tradeoff between wasting farmland for energy crops and using it for export crops to buy energy from outside could go either way. Of course, when the area has government boundaries defining it, especially in the third world, there tends to be a huge amount of social policy and/or corruption distorting the market prices. But sometimes you can exploit other governments' corrupt social policies, e.g. grow cocaine or opium and buy oil or food or toys with the profits. Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com
Transperancy Spray?
Well, I was watching CNN and it looks like the Postal workers now are armed with a new weapon.. Against terror of course. THe whole cant read someone elses mail thing is out the window it looks like, they can spray this go on the letter and read through the envelope.. It seems implausable but its CNN, they dont lie right? well ANYWAYS, I now have a nice stash of black construction paper... Max Inux
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Re: CDR: Re: FBI moves to route internet through central servers: Another dagger in the Heart of Freedom in America
Mark Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 11:06:51AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - re-awaken FidoNet FidoNet, ugh. Would the software even work under most current operating systems? Yes it would. At least some of the software, that is. Anyone interested in bbs-software with all Fidonet-components built in, capability to act as an SMTP-MTA, ftpd, httpd (I think), handles usenet also, can be used with http also... It does work at least on Linux/Intel, Linux/Sparc, Linux/Alpha, FreeBSD/Intel, Amiga, Windows NT, PC-DOS, OS/2... And no, it is not Open Source. More information at http://www.bbbs.net, if memory serves. Suonpää...
Anti-Terror Tools Include High-Tech
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Re: Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds )
At 07:46 PM 10/28/01 -0800, someone with the password to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people need killing, some people don't. The difference is not always clear, but when it comes to imperial soldiers and trade towers, the difference is clear enough. It's always refreshing to see someone with such a staunch moral compass. You would no doubt write excellent Captain American fan fiction. And the difference is also clear enough when it comes to those people who found themselves paying taxes to support an imperial war they knew nothing of. Perhaps people should pay better attention to the actions their government takes in their name - after all, you never know when somebody might take seriously all that talk about the actions of the government merely reflecting the will of the people, and in so doing hold your blissfully ignorant ass accountable. -- Luthor //Remembering is copying and copying is THEFT
US exporting abuses of 'detainees'
A short, sharp shock, they'll never do it agin' http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAA97MDETC.html Scotland Yard Gets More Time to Questions Terrorism Suspect The Associated Press Published: Oct 29, 2001 LONDON (AP) - Scotland Yard said Monday it has gained court permission to continue questioning an Egyptian man suspected of involvement in terrorism. The 38-year-old man, identified in press reports as Yasser al-Sirri, was arrested at his home in London last week. Tuesday would mark the end of the seven-day period permitted by the Terrorism Act for questioning a suspect without bringing charges, but authorities were granted more time to question al-Sirri. Al-Sirri runs a center that acts as a public relations contact for Islamic fundamentalist groups, and recently circulated a statement by Mohammed Atef, third-ranking leader of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network. Al-Sirri has declined to discuss how he obtained that statement.
cryptography and the present crisis
Nomens not an idiot,Opportunity knocks,howie [ http://people.ne.mediaone.net/goodell/howie made some suggestions for cryptosecurity and Ive noticed a lot of fresh PGP sigs lately.Crypto will be in The mother of all sweet spot soon,they cant round us all up and fight wars on 2 continents at the same time.Hell,they can barely walk and chew gum. The other thing of course is this... - Some people have even pointed out the benefits of killing off tens of thousands of the corrupt politicians, narcs, and cops which have implemented fascist, collectivist policies for so long. Assassination markets may make this much more practical. Lets get back to basics!
Re: [Fwd: [biofuel] VW presents new synthetic fuel strategy]
Bill Stewart wrote: Making biodiesel from virgin oil scales well, since you can use non-food-grade oils, but there's still a substantial ecological effect of converting land from non-farming or food-farming to energy-farming. That's a common arguement used against biofuels which doesn't hold water. In the first place, whether it's biodiesel or ethanol, you still have the vast majority of the food left after you extract the oil or ethanol -- meal cake or brewer's grains (a very high quality protein). http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_food.html Right at the moment we have farmers (US) being paid *not* to grow, and/or growing at a loss. Corn is now by far the cheapest fuel for home heating. http://www.gov.on.ca/OMAFRA/english/crops/facts/93-023.htm Waste vegetable oil has a much different scaling ability - until you get most fast-food french-fry leftovers used for fuel oil, it scales up really well, but after that it hits the wall. Right, but there's a tremendous amount available right now, and an awful lot getting dumped in landfills and illegally down drains. And if you start looking at gasification of waste biomass, there are amazing amounts available at least in western countries. -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html
FW: Fox News' source for story FBI to centralize 'Net speaks out
From Dave Farber's IP list. --XJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Farber Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 8:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP: Fox News goes overboard X-Server-Uuid: 47feacc6-2336-11d3-82c6-0008c7db26d1 From: Baker, Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Albertazzie, Sally [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave: I can't remember whether you carried the Fox News story. If you did, you might be interested in this. Stewart Fox News recently reported that the FBI has a plan to change the architecture of the Internet, centralizing it and providing a technical backdoor to the networks of Internet service providers. Like many others, I thought this was big news, and rather surprising. Until I realized that the reporter only cited one source and that it was, well, me. Fox News's claims go beyond the facts I provided to her, and beyond any that I know about. To be clear, I believe that the FBI is at work on an initiative to make Internet communications, indeed any packet data communications, more susceptible to intercept and more productive of non-content data about communications -- the sort of pen register data that was expressly approved for Internet communications in the recent antiterrorism bill. This initiative will have architectural implications for packet data communications systems. The FBI is likely to press providers of those services to centralize communications in nodes where interception will be more convenient, and it is likely to call on packet data services to build systems that provide more information about the communications of their subscribers. The vehicle for this initiative is CALEA, the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, a 1994 enactment that actually requires telecom carriers to redesign their networks to provide better wiretap capabilities. The act is supposed to exempt information services, but the vagueness of that provision has encouraged the FBI to expand its mandate into packet-data communications. The Bureau is now preparing a general CALEA proposal for all packet-data systems. While I have not seen it, the Bureau's past interventions into packet-data and other communications architecture have had two characteristics -- they have sought more centralization in order to simplify interception and they have asked providers to generate new data messages about their subscribers' activities -- messages that are of value only to law enforcement. There are real legal and policy questions that should be raised about this effort. In my view, it goes beyond what Congress intended in 1994. And the implications for Internet users and technologies deserve to be debated. But making these points, as I did with Fox News, is not the same as saying that the FBI has a firm plan to centralize the Internet and build back doors into all ISP networks. If Fox News wants to break that story, it will need a source other than me. Stewart Baker Steptoe Johnson LLP 1330 Connecticut Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20036 For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
