Re: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Dieter Faulbaum]

Patrick Shanahan  writes:
...

darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable-3.4
darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable-master


and if you want that these are "totally" independent from each 
other you

should set the cachedir (with --cachedir) accordingly like these:

darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable-3.4 --cachedir 
~/.cache/darktable-3.4
darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable-master --cachedir 
~/.cache/darktable-master



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Re: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Bruce Williams  [01-18-21 05:36]:
> Patrick,
> Thanks for the info, although I don't know how to create an alias. Do those
> commands go inside the bash script?
> Also, I followed your advice to create folders inside .config (except I
> called them darktable-3.4 and darktable-master) and then point the bash
> scripts to those folders.
> But when I launch darktable 3.4 from the bash script, it creates new
> library.db, data.db etc in .config/darktable (not the folder
> .config/darktable-3.4)

script ???

you must start dt from the command line using the command I provided but
changed to fit the way you named the config directories.  the following
command line invocations will accomplish that,

darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable-3.4
darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable-master

and library.db and data.db will be in the *correct* directories.


there is no script involved and any script that you used probably did not
have any idea of where you placed your new config directories.  it was
probably coded to default to the normail installation location, ie:
~/.config/darktable

again, to start and use darktable master version, invoke darktable from
the command line as:
  darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable-master

to use darktable version 3.4:
  darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable-3.4
  
note:  using "-" in directory or file names is ill advised and asking for
problems.


about "alias", your ~/.bashrc must provided for it and more, another
subject for another time.  please for now, forget it.

the commands above may be placed in scrpts to make it easier to call.  I
can help with that if you wish.


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Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[KOVÁCS István]

You can simply put the 'alias' commands Patrick provided in your .bashrc.
https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-create-bash-aliases/

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Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bruce Williams]

Patrick,
Thanks for the info, although I don't know how to create an alias. Do those
commands go inside the bash script?
Also, I followed your advice to create folders inside .config (except I
called them darktable-3.4 and darktable-master) and then point the bash
scripts to those folders.
But when I launch darktable 3.4 from the bash script, it creates new
library.db, data.db etc in .config/darktable (not the folder
.config/darktable-3.4)
Cheers,
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From: Patrick Shanahan 
Date: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
To: darktable-user 


* Bruce Williams  [01-17-21 15:41]:
> Michael,
> Thanks for the suggested tweaks to my bash scripts.
> Despite implementing those changes, I'm still unable to save presets of
> Collected Images in 3.4, but CAN still save new presets of Collected
IMages
> in my master (3.5) branch.
> Also, 3.5 is still seeing all the same presets I've created in 3.4.
> #baffled

move ~/.config/darktable
to   ~/.config/darktable.34
and copy to
 ~/.config/darktable.35

then call darktable version 3.4 as
 darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.34
and version 3.5 as
 darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.35

and I would create aliases rather than the long command lines.

alias dt34='darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.34'
alias dt35='darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.35'

should accomplish what you desire

note that you will start with matching configurations, only differences
will show after you start using

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Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Bruce Williams  [01-17-21 15:41]:
> Michael,
> Thanks for the suggested tweaks to my bash scripts.
> Despite implementing those changes, I'm still unable to save presets of
> Collected Images in 3.4, but CAN still save new presets of Collected IMages
> in my master (3.5) branch.
> Also, 3.5 is still seeing all the same presets I've created in 3.4.
> #baffled

move ~/.config/darktable
to   ~/.config/darktable.34
and copy to
 ~/.config/darktable.35
 
then call darktable version 3.4 as
 darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.34
and version 3.5 as
 darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.35
 
and I would create aliases rather than the long command lines.

alias dt34='darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.34'  
alias dt35='darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.35'

should accomplish what you desire

note that you will start with matching configurations, only differences
will show after you start using

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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bruce Williams]

Michael,
Thanks for the suggested tweaks to my bash scripts.
Despite implementing those changes, I'm still unable to save presets of
Collected Images in 3.4, but CAN still save new presets of Collected IMages
in my master (3.5) branch.
Also, 3.5 is still seeing all the same presets I've created in 3.4.
#baffled
Cheers,
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From: Patrick Shanahan 
Date: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
To: 


* David Vincent-Jones  [01-17-21 12:57]:
> After using dt for many years I find myself totally confused with the
latest
> filing system. I have always relied on a date based hierarchy and
augmented
> with extensive tagging. I have used tags for both simple elements as well
as
> 'projects'. I assume that what I called projects now forms the basis of
> collections. Being unable now to simply sort by folder hierarchy is really
> quite a nuisance.
>
> On 2021-01-16 9:53 p.m., Bruce Williams wrote:
> > OK, just made an interesting discovery which might give somebody an
idea of
> > what's going on. Hint: I still don't have a clue!
> > I've installed 2 versions from github.
> > The afore-mentioned 3.4 build in opt/darktable/3.4 AND a build of 3.5
> > installed in opt/darktable/master
> > I have 2 bash scripts (big thanks to CodingDave for the assistance
there!)
> > which I use for launching.
> > The first looks like so:
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > /opt/darktable-3.4/bin/darktable --library
> > ~/.cache/darktable/3.4/darktable_3.4.db --configdir
~/.cache/darktable/3.4/
> >
> > And the master version looks like this:
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > /opt/darktable/master/bin/darktable --library
> > ~/.cache/darktable/master/darktable_master.db --configdir
> > ~/.cache/darktable/master/
> >
> > Now, I THOUGHT that by putting the library and config files into
separate
> > directories, I would be free of any conflicts.
> > But I've just noticed that Collections I was saving in 3.4 are showing
up
> > in my copy of 3.5 as well. So somewhere, a directory or a file is being
> > shared.
> > Can anyone help me out with what I've missed here?
> > Many thanks (in advance).
> > Cheers,
> > Bruce Williams
> > --
> > Mobile:  +61 41 250 6349
> >
> > brucewilliamsphotography.com
> > shuttersincpodcast.com
> >
> > e-mail  | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> |
> > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> |
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> >
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Bruce Williams 
> > Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 1:33 PM
> > Subject: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
> > To: darktable-user 
> >
> >
> > Anton,
> > No, I meant the collections that you create and save through the
"collect
> > images" module.
> > I create collections based on shoot date (mostly) so I can quickly get
back
> > to a certain batch of images.
> > Cheers,
> > Bruce Williams.
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Anton Aylward 
> > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021, 13:30
> > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
> > To: 
> >
> >
> > On 16/01/2021 01:01, Bruce Williams wrote:
> > > Hi all!
> > > I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be
> > saved.
> > > But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored,
> > darktable can
> > > no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I not store
any
> > NEW
> > > Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.
> > > I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
> > > I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user
> > filesystem area.
> >
> > Yes, that's where the database and the 'more i

Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Patrick Shanahan]

* David Vincent-Jones  [01-17-21 12:57]:
> After using dt for many years I find myself totally confused with the latest
> filing system. I have always relied on a date based hierarchy and augmented
> with extensive tagging. I have used tags for both simple elements as well as
> 'projects'. I assume that what I called projects now forms the basis of
> collections. Being unable now to simply sort by folder hierarchy is really
> quite a nuisance.
> 
> On 2021-01-16 9:53 p.m., Bruce Williams wrote:
> > OK, just made an interesting discovery which might give somebody an idea of
> > what's going on. Hint: I still don't have a clue!
> > I've installed 2 versions from github.
> > The afore-mentioned 3.4 build in opt/darktable/3.4 AND a build of 3.5
> > installed in opt/darktable/master
> > I have 2 bash scripts (big thanks to CodingDave for the assistance there!)
> > which I use for launching.
> > The first looks like so:
> > 
> > #!/bin/bash
> > /opt/darktable-3.4/bin/darktable --library
> > ~/.cache/darktable/3.4/darktable_3.4.db --configdir ~/.cache/darktable/3.4/
> > 
> > And the master version looks like this:
> > 
> > #!/bin/bash
> > /opt/darktable/master/bin/darktable --library
> > ~/.cache/darktable/master/darktable_master.db --configdir
> > ~/.cache/darktable/master/
> > 
> > Now, I THOUGHT that by putting the library and config files into separate
> > directories, I would be free of any conflicts.
> > But I've just noticed that Collections I was saving in 3.4 are showing up
> > in my copy of 3.5 as well. So somewhere, a directory or a file is being
> > shared.
> > Can anyone help me out with what I've missed here?
> > Many thanks (in advance).
> > Cheers,
> > Bruce Williams
> > --
> > Mobile:  +61 41 250 6349
> > 
> > brucewilliamsphotography.com
> > shuttersincpodcast.com
> > 
> > e-mail  | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> |
> > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook
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> > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5>
> > --
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Bruce Williams 
> > Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 1:33 PM
> > Subject: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
> > To: darktable-user 
> > 
> > 
> > Anton,
> > No, I meant the collections that you create and save through the "collect
> > images" module.
> > I create collections based on shoot date (mostly) so I can quickly get back
> > to a certain batch of images.
> > Cheers,
> > Bruce Williams.
> > 
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Anton Aylward 
> > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021, 13:30
> > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
> > To: 
> > 
> > 
> > On 16/01/2021 01:01, Bruce Williams wrote:
> > > Hi all!
> > > I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be
> > saved.
> > > But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored,
> > darktable can
> > > no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I not store any
> > NEW
> > > Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.
> > > I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
> > > I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user
> > filesystem area.
> > 
> > Yes, that's where the database and the 'more intimate' Darktable files are,
> > ~/.config/darktable
> > 
> > But what do you mean by "Collections"?  Do you mean the image files?
> > Those are kept on disk where ever you've chosen to keep them.
> > I keep all of mine under ~/MyPhotographs/
> > The unclassified I organise by date (year, month) with each year on a
> > separate XFS
> > filesystem, the file systems being managed by LVM.
> > Why XFS? Why LVM? So I can grow it later if needed.
> > The "Classified" are according to the reason for classification - event,
> > location,
> > project...
> > The point is that there is always file space to grow into, space were the
> > images
> > can be saved.
> > 
> > Trust me: disks are cheap.
> > SSD is getting cheaper, bu

Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bernhard]

David Vincent-Jones schrieb am 17.01.21 um 19:00:
After using dt for many years I find myself totally confused with the 
latest filing system. I have always relied on a date based hierarchy 
and augmented with extensive tagging. I have used tags for both simple 
elements as well as 'projects'. I assume that what I called projects 
now forms the basis of collections. Being unable now to simply sort by 
folder hierarchy is really quite a nuisance. 

not sure what you are puzzled about.
I'm on 3.4 stable and everything works like all the 6 years I use 
darktable now.


I have something like ~/archive/year/event and also most of the DAM is 
based on tags.
When I select "Folder" in the collections module in lighttable I can 
browse through my folders ...


Collections simply are presets in the "Collect images" module
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/lighttable/digital-asset-management/collections/

so ... nothing new to worry about ...

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Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[David Vincent-Jones]

After using dt for many years I find myself totally confused with the 
latest filing system. I have always relied on a date based hierarchy and 
augmented with extensive tagging. I have used tags for both simple 
elements as well as 'projects'. I assume that what I called projects now 
forms the basis of collections. Being unable now to simply sort by 
folder hierarchy is really quite a nuisance.


On 2021-01-16 9:53 p.m., Bruce Williams wrote:

OK, just made an interesting discovery which might give somebody an idea of
what's going on. Hint: I still don't have a clue!
I've installed 2 versions from github.
The afore-mentioned 3.4 build in opt/darktable/3.4 AND a build of 3.5
installed in opt/darktable/master
I have 2 bash scripts (big thanks to CodingDave for the assistance there!)
which I use for launching.
The first looks like so:

#!/bin/bash
/opt/darktable-3.4/bin/darktable --library
~/.cache/darktable/3.4/darktable_3.4.db --configdir ~/.cache/darktable/3.4/

And the master version looks like this:

#!/bin/bash
/opt/darktable/master/bin/darktable --library
~/.cache/darktable/master/darktable_master.db --configdir
~/.cache/darktable/master/

Now, I THOUGHT that by putting the library and config files into separate
directories, I would be free of any conflicts.
But I've just noticed that Collections I was saving in 3.4 are showing up
in my copy of 3.5 as well. So somewhere, a directory or a file is being
shared.
Can anyone help me out with what I've missed here?
Many thanks (in advance).
Cheers,
Bruce Williams
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From: Bruce Williams 
Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 1:33 PM
Subject: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
To: darktable-user 


Anton,
No, I meant the collections that you create and save through the "collect
images" module.
I create collections based on shoot date (mostly) so I can quickly get back
to a certain batch of images.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Anton Aylward 
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021, 13:30
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
To: 


On 16/01/2021 01:01, Bruce Williams wrote:

Hi all!
I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be

saved.

But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored,

darktable can

no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I not store any

NEW

Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.
I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user

filesystem area.

Yes, that's where the database and the 'more intimate' Darktable files are,
~/.config/darktable

But what do you mean by "Collections"?  Do you mean the image files?
Those are kept on disk where ever you've chosen to keep them.
I keep all of mine under ~/MyPhotographs/
The unclassified I organise by date (year, month) with each year on a
separate XFS
filesystem, the file systems being managed by LVM.
Why XFS? Why LVM? So I can grow it later if needed.
The "Classified" are according to the reason for classification - event,
location,
project...
The point is that there is always file space to grow into, space were the
images
can be saved.

Trust me: disks are cheap.
SSD is getting cheaper, but I'd use it for things like need more rapid
access like
the root file system.  As long as my chassis and motherboard can handle it
I can
keep adding 'bulk storage'.  If all fails I can add a NFS server for the
purely
'data' storage, and the image files+sidebars fall into that category.

So: what do you mean by 'Collections'?

/a


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Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Michael Rasmussen]

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 16:53:48 +1100
Bruce Williams  wrote:

> OK, just made an interesting discovery which might give somebody an
> idea of what's going on. Hint: I still don't have a clue!
> I've installed 2 versions from github.
> The afore-mentioned 3.4 build in opt/darktable/3.4 AND a build of 3.5
> installed in opt/darktable/master
> I have 2 bash scripts (big thanks to CodingDave for the assistance
> there!) which I use for launching.
> The first looks like so:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> /opt/darktable-3.4/bin/darktable --library
> ~/.cache/darktable/3.4/darktable_3.4.db --configdir
> ~/.cache/darktable/3.4/
> 
> And the master version looks like this:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> /opt/darktable/master/bin/darktable --library
> ~/.cache/darktable/master/darktable_master.db --configdir
> ~/.cache/darktable/master/
> 
> Now, I THOUGHT that by putting the library and config files into
> separate directories, I would be free of any conflicts.
> But I've just noticed that Collections I was saving in 3.4 are
> showing up in my copy of 3.5 as well. So somewhere, a directory or a
> file is being shared.
> Can anyone help me out with what I've missed here?

Try extending/replacing your bash script to this:
#!/bin/bash
/opt/darktable-3.4/bin/darktable \
--library ~/.cache/darktable/3.4/darktable_3.4.db \
--configdir ~/.cache/darktable/3.4 \
--cachedir ~/.cache/darktable/3.4 \
--datadir ~/.cache/darktable/3.4 \
--tmpdir ~/.cache/darktable/3.4

#!/bin/bash
/opt/darktable/master/bin/darktable \
--library ~/.cache/darktable/master/darktable_master.db \
--configdir ~/.cache/darktable/master \
--cachedir ~/.cache/darktable/master \
--datadir ~/.cache/darktable/master \
--tmpdir ~/.cache/darktable/master

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Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Anton Aylward]

On 16/01/2021 21:33, Bruce Williams wrote:

Anton,
No, I meant the collections that you create and save through the "collect images" 
module.
I create collections based on shoot date (mostly) so I can quickly get back to a 
certain batch of images.


Ah.
But yes, I achieve the same end by a different means, outside of Darktable

/a


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Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bernhard]

Bruce Williams schrieb am 17.01.21 um 06:53:

#!/bin/bash
/opt/darktable-3.4/bin/darktable --library
~/.cache/darktable/3.4/darktable_3.4.db --configdir ~/.cache/darktable/3.4/

And the master version looks like this:

#!/bin/bash
/opt/darktable/master/bin/darktable --library
~/.cache/darktable/master/darktable_master.db --configdir
~/.cache/darktable/master/

that /.cache/ should read /.config/ in all cases AFAIK
and that's the way I do this
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Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Pascal Obry]

Hi Bruce,

> No, I meant the collections that you create and save through the
> "collect images" module.
> I create collections based on shoot date (mostly) so I can quickly
> get back to a certain batch of images.

Ok, that's presets for the collect module. The presets (for every
module) are saved into data.db.

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Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bruce Williams]

OK, just made an interesting discovery which might give somebody an idea of
what's going on. Hint: I still don't have a clue!
I've installed 2 versions from github.
The afore-mentioned 3.4 build in opt/darktable/3.4 AND a build of 3.5
installed in opt/darktable/master
I have 2 bash scripts (big thanks to CodingDave for the assistance there!)
which I use for launching.
The first looks like so:

#!/bin/bash
/opt/darktable-3.4/bin/darktable --library
~/.cache/darktable/3.4/darktable_3.4.db --configdir ~/.cache/darktable/3.4/

And the master version looks like this:

#!/bin/bash
/opt/darktable/master/bin/darktable --library
~/.cache/darktable/master/darktable_master.db --configdir
~/.cache/darktable/master/

Now, I THOUGHT that by putting the library and config files into separate
directories, I would be free of any conflicts.
But I've just noticed that Collections I was saving in 3.4 are showing up
in my copy of 3.5 as well. So somewhere, a directory or a file is being
shared.
Can anyone help me out with what I've missed here?
Many thanks (in advance).
Cheers,
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From: Bruce Williams 
Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 1:33 PM
Subject: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
To: darktable-user 


Anton,
No, I meant the collections that you create and save through the "collect
images" module.
I create collections based on shoot date (mostly) so I can quickly get back
to a certain batch of images.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Anton Aylward 
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021, 13:30
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
To: 


On 16/01/2021 01:01, Bruce Williams wrote:
> Hi all!
> I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be
saved.
> But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored,
darktable can
> no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I not store any
NEW
> Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.
> I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
> I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user
filesystem area.

Yes, that's where the database and the 'more intimate' Darktable files are,
~/.config/darktable

But what do you mean by "Collections"?  Do you mean the image files?
Those are kept on disk where ever you've chosen to keep them.
I keep all of mine under ~/MyPhotographs/
The unclassified I organise by date (year, month) with each year on a
separate XFS
filesystem, the file systems being managed by LVM.
Why XFS? Why LVM? So I can grow it later if needed.
The "Classified" are according to the reason for classification - event,
location,
project...
The point is that there is always file space to grow into, space were the
images
can be saved.

Trust me: disks are cheap.
SSD is getting cheaper, but I'd use it for things like need more rapid
access like
the root file system.  As long as my chassis and motherboard can handle it
I can
keep adding 'bulk storage'.  If all fails I can add a NFS server for the
purely
'data' storage, and the image files+sidebars fall into that category.

So: what do you mean by 'Collections'?

/a


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Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bruce Williams]

Anton,
No, I meant the collections that you create and save through the "collect
images" module.
I create collections based on shoot date (mostly) so I can quickly get back
to a certain batch of images.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Anton Aylward 
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021, 13:30
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
To: 


On 16/01/2021 01:01, Bruce Williams wrote:
> Hi all!
> I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be
saved.
> But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored,
darktable can
> no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I not store any
NEW
> Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.
> I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
> I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user
filesystem area.

Yes, that's where the database and the 'more intimate' Darktable files are,
~/.config/darktable

But what do you mean by "Collections"?  Do you mean the image files?
Those are kept on disk where ever you've chosen to keep them.
I keep all of mine under ~/MyPhotographs/
The unclassified I organise by date (year, month) with each year on a
separate XFS
filesystem, the file systems being managed by LVM.
Why XFS? Why LVM? So I can grow it later if needed.
The "Classified" are according to the reason for classification - event,
location,
project...
The point is that there is always file space to grow into, space were the
images
can be saved.

Trust me: disks are cheap.
SSD is getting cheaper, but I'd use it for things like need more rapid
access like
the root file system.  As long as my chassis and motherboard can handle it
I can
keep adding 'bulk storage'.  If all fails I can add a NFS server for the
purely
'data' storage, and the image files+sidebars fall into that category.

So: what do you mean by 'Collections'?

/a


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Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Anton Aylward]

On 16/01/2021 01:01, Bruce Williams wrote:

Hi all!
I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be saved.
But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored, darktable can 
no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I not store any NEW 
Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.

I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user 
filesystem area.


Yes, that's where the database and the 'more intimate' Darktable files are,
~/.config/darktable

But what do you mean by "Collections"?  Do you mean the image files?
Those are kept on disk where ever you've chosen to keep them.
I keep all of mine under ~/MyPhotographs/
The unclassified I organise by date (year, month) with each year on a separate XFS 
filesystem, the file systems being managed by LVM.

Why XFS? Why LVM? So I can grow it later if needed.
The "Classified" are according to the reason for classification - event, location, 
project...
The point is that there is always file space to grow into, space were the images 
can be saved.


Trust me: disks are cheap.
SSD is getting cheaper, but I'd use it for things like need more rapid access like 
the root file system.  As long as my chassis and motherboard can handle it I can 
keep adding 'bulk storage'.  If all fails I can add a NFS server for the purely 
'data' storage, and the image files+sidebars fall into that category.


So: what do you mean by 'Collections'?

/a


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Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bill Wohler]

Could your disk be full?

Bruce Williams  wrote:

> Hi all!
> I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be saved.
> But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored, darktable 
> can no longer write/execute on
> that location, as not only can I not store any NEW Collection, I can't delete 
> an existing one either.
> I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
> I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user 
> filesystem area.
> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams
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Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Remco Viëtor]

On samedi 16 janvier 2021 07:01:55 CET Bruce Williams wrote:
> Hi all!
> I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be
> saved.
> But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored,
> darktable can no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I
> not store any NEW Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.
> I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
> I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user
> filesystem area.

That's ...surprising, for me at least: afaik, a *cache* can be invalidated at 
any moment, and it should be possible to clear it w/o causing problems.

For me (on openSUSe Leap 15.2), the files you mention are stored under 
~/.config/darktable

Remco




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Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Martin Straeten]

file locations are stored in the library.db.
Id is an integer and the location a varchar(1024) 
From the reference: 
INTEGER. The value is a signed integer, stored in 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, or 8 bytes 
depending on the magnitude of the value.

So i doubt you reach this limit with your library.
You may run darktable -d sql to see if there are failing database activities ...

> Am 16.01.2021 um 07:03 schrieb Bruce Williams :
> 
> Hi all!
> I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be saved.
> But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored, darktable 
> can no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I not store any 
> NEW Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.
> I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
> I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user 
> filesystem area.
> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams
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[darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bruce Williams]

Hi all!
I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be
saved.
But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored,
darktable can no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I
not store any NEW Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.
I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user
filesystem area.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
Bruce Williams
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shuttersincpodcast.com

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