Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Willy Williams]

On reflection, I have the option in the camera to select either "PC 
Storage" or "PC Tether" when I connect the body to the computer, so I 
suspect that the discrepancy has more to do with the Lumix firmware and 
how it has been written to resemble a computer storage device as opposed 
to being a camera mass storage device.


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On 1/3/2021 at 11:56, Willy Williams wrote:


My Lumix G9 cards do not appear as your illustrations show.  Whether I 
1) run a USB 3.0 cable to the body from the computer, or 2) extract 
the SD cards from the body and plug them into a USB 3.0 card reader 
which is in turn plugged into the computer, the cards show up simply 
as storage devices in the Windows 10 hierarchy.  They are not 
recognized as "Mass Storage Camera", and there is accordingly, no 
option to "import from camera".  I have no clue as to why the 
discrepancy exists.


In my workflow, it is easiest to create a folder structure in Windows 
to identify the date and subject of the shoot, copy in a template 
sub-folder structure to met my workflow needs, then cable the G9 to 
the computer and copy down all the image files from the body to the 
computer.  I can then verify that all the images are readable and 
recognizable before reformatting the cards that are still in their 
respective slots in the G9 body.  YMMV...


Willy Williams



On 1/3/2021 at 11:16, Bernhard wrote:

Sorry, but why not simply do things the RIGHT way?

I just put a SD-card into my card reader, plugged it in and darktable 
immediately showed me the dialog 01 you see in the attachment.

"Import from camera" results in dialogs 02 and 03.
Files are COPIED to the folder on your PC according to your preferences.

Don't hold darktable responsible for you doing things wrong!!!



 
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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Willy Williams]

It appears that this is dead-on.  When I connect via USB to my one Linux 
computer, the darktable import function recognizes both cards while 
they're still in the G9. Thanks for the heads-up.


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On 1/3/21 12:42 PM, Jim Robinson wrote:
As was pointed out much earlier in this discussion the situation with 
attaching cameras to darktable in Windows is well described here:


https://www.darktable.org/about/faq/#faq-tethering

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 17:32, Bernhard > wrote:


Windows ...

I guess Windows blocks darktable from accessing the card reader(?).
If the card reader is shown as a separate drive try to eject this
drive
and see if darktable then shows the appropriate dialog.

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Willy Williams schrieb am 03.01.21 um 17:56:
> My Lumix G9 cards do not appear as your illustrations show. 
Whether I
> 1) run a USB 3.0 cable to the body from the computer, or 2) extract
> the SD cards from the body and plug them into a USB 3.0 card reader
> which is in turn plugged into the computer, the cards show up
simply
> as storage devices in the Windows 10 hierarchy. They are not
> recognized as "Mass Storage Camera", and there is accordingly, no
> option to "import from camera".  I have no clue as to why the
> discrepancy exists.
>
> In my workflow, it is easiest to create a folder structure in
Windows
> to identify the date and subject of the shoot, copy in a template
> sub-folder structure to met my workflow needs, then cable the G9 to
> the computer and copy down all the image files from the body to the
> computer.  I can then verify that all the images are readable and
> recognizable before reformatting the cards that are still in their
> respective slots in the G9 body.  YMMV...
>
> Willy Williams
>
> 
>
> On 1/3/2021 at 11:16, Bernhard wrote:
>> Sorry, but why not simply do things the RIGHT way?
>>
>> I just put a SD-card into my card reader, plugged it in and
darktable
>> immediately showed me the dialog 01 you see in the attachment.
>> "Import from camera" results in dialogs 02 and 03.
>> Files are COPIED to the folder on your PC according to your
preferences.
>>
>> Don't hold darktable responsible for you doing things wrong!!!
>>
>
>


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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Jim Robinson]

As was pointed out much earlier in this discussion the situation with
attaching cameras to darktable in Windows is well described here:

https://www.darktable.org/about/faq/#faq-tethering

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 17:32, Bernhard  wrote:

> Windows ...
>
> I guess Windows blocks darktable from accessing the card reader(?).
> If the card reader is shown as a separate drive try to eject this drive
> and see if darktable then shows the appropriate dialog.
>
> --
>
> regards
> Bernhard
>
> https://www.bilddateien.de
>
>
> Willy Williams schrieb am 03.01.21 um 17:56:
> > My Lumix G9 cards do not appear as your illustrations show.  Whether I
> > 1) run a USB 3.0 cable to the body from the computer, or 2) extract
> > the SD cards from the body and plug them into a USB 3.0 card reader
> > which is in turn plugged into the computer, the cards show up simply
> > as storage devices in the Windows 10 hierarchy. They are not
> > recognized as "Mass Storage Camera", and there is accordingly, no
> > option to "import from camera".  I have no clue as to why the
> > discrepancy exists.
> >
> > In my workflow, it is easiest to create a folder structure in Windows
> > to identify the date and subject of the shoot, copy in a template
> > sub-folder structure to met my workflow needs, then cable the G9 to
> > the computer and copy down all the image files from the body to the
> > computer.  I can then verify that all the images are readable and
> > recognizable before reformatting the cards that are still in their
> > respective slots in the G9 body.  YMMV...
> >
> > Willy Williams
> >
> > 
> >
> > On 1/3/2021 at 11:16, Bernhard wrote:
> >> Sorry, but why not simply do things the RIGHT way?
> >>
> >> I just put a SD-card into my card reader, plugged it in and darktable
> >> immediately showed me the dialog 01 you see in the attachment.
> >> "Import from camera" results in dialogs 02 and 03.
> >> Files are COPIED to the folder on your PC according to your preferences.
> >>
> >> Don't hold darktable responsible for you doing things wrong!!!
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Bernhard]

Windows ...

I guess Windows blocks darktable from accessing the card reader(?).
If the card reader is shown as a separate drive try to eject this drive 
and see if darktable then shows the appropriate dialog.


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Willy Williams schrieb am 03.01.21 um 17:56:
My Lumix G9 cards do not appear as your illustrations show.  Whether I 
1) run a USB 3.0 cable to the body from the computer, or 2) extract 
the SD cards from the body and plug them into a USB 3.0 card reader 
which is in turn plugged into the computer, the cards show up simply 
as storage devices in the Windows 10 hierarchy. They are not 
recognized as "Mass Storage Camera", and there is accordingly, no 
option to "import from camera".  I have no clue as to why the 
discrepancy exists.


In my workflow, it is easiest to create a folder structure in Windows 
to identify the date and subject of the shoot, copy in a template 
sub-folder structure to met my workflow needs, then cable the G9 to 
the computer and copy down all the image files from the body to the 
computer.  I can then verify that all the images are readable and 
recognizable before reformatting the cards that are still in their 
respective slots in the G9 body.  YMMV...


Willy Williams



On 1/3/2021 at 11:16, Bernhard wrote:

Sorry, but why not simply do things the RIGHT way?

I just put a SD-card into my card reader, plugged it in and darktable 
immediately showed me the dialog 01 you see in the attachment.

"Import from camera" results in dialogs 02 and 03.
Files are COPIED to the folder on your PC according to your preferences.

Don't hold darktable responsible for you doing things wrong!!!



 


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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Willy Williams]

My Lumix G9 cards do not appear as your illustrations show.  Whether I 
1) run a USB 3.0 cable to the body from the computer, or 2) extract the 
SD cards from the body and plug them into a USB 3.0 card reader which is 
in turn plugged into the computer, the cards show up simply as storage 
devices in the Windows 10 hierarchy.  They are not recognized as "Mass 
Storage Camera", and there is accordingly, no option to "import from 
camera".  I have no clue as to why the discrepancy exists.


In my workflow, it is easiest to create a folder structure in Windows to 
identify the date and subject of the shoot, copy in a template 
sub-folder structure to met my workflow needs, then cable the G9 to the 
computer and copy down all the image files from the body to the 
computer.  I can then verify that all the images are readable and 
recognizable before reformatting the cards that are still in their 
respective slots in the G9 body.  YMMV...


Willy Williams



On 1/3/2021 at 11:16, Bernhard wrote:

Sorry, but why not simply do things the RIGHT way?

I just put a SD-card into my card reader, plugged it in and darktable 
immediately showed me the dialog 01 you see in the attachment.

"Import from camera" results in dialogs 02 and 03.
Files are COPIED to the folder on your PC according to your preferences.

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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Bernhard]

Sorry, but why not simply do things the RIGHT way?

I just put a SD-card into my card reader, plugged it in and darktable 
immediately showed me the dialog 01 you see in the attachment.

"Import from camera" results in dialogs 02 and 03.
Files are COPIED to the folder on your PC according to your preferences.

Don't hold darktable responsible for you doing things wrong!!!

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Michael schrieb am 03.01.21 um 16:50:

I hate when I mess up and start editing off of the card!

On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 10:49 AM Michael  wrote:

ye sir copy to disk and start editing is the only way that makes sense.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 10:46 AM Jean-Luc CECCOLI
 wrote:

Message du 02/01/21 19:30
De : "Tom Whale"
A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
Copie à :
Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

On 02.01.2021 at 18:47 Jean-Luc CECCOLI wrote:


I wonder why on earth do some people absolutely want to import right from the 
camera.
It is far slower and less safe than doing it by reading the card from a card 
reader.
Safe : if the card falls on to the ground, it will not be the same as if it 
were the camera.
Slower : I admit this is based upon my own observations with Nikon
1 v1, D700 and D4s conneted either via usb2 or usb3.
Plus, if I do not mistake, this just does import the pictures into
the database, so they will not be available anymore after unplugging the camera.
I think, together with others on this list, that the best is to
copy the files from the card to the disk, and then import them.
There are many tools that allow organizing while copying, most of
them have been listed in previous posts.

But you cannot import directly from SD-card. When doing this, the
photos remain on the SD-Card and the sidecar-files are written on the
SD-card. Sorry but this is a no-go.
The only practicable way is to copy the photos on the harddisk.

Yes, indeed.
And this is why I use /import/ through the 5 first lines, describing what I 
think to be a database related operation (line 6), and then suggest to /copy/ 
the files to the disk as the most sensible thing to do.

Rgrds,

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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Michael]

I hate when I mess up and start editing off of the card!

On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 10:49 AM Michael  wrote:
>
> ye sir copy to disk and start editing is the only way that makes sense.
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 10:46 AM Jean-Luc CECCOLI
>  wrote:
> >
> > > Message du 02/01/21 19:30
> > > De : "Tom Whale"
> > > A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
> > > Copie à :
> > > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera
> > >
> > > On 02.01.2021 at 18:47 Jean-Luc CECCOLI wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wonder why on earth do some people absolutely want to import right 
> > > > from the camera.
> > > > It is far slower and less safe than doing it by reading the card from a 
> > > > card reader.
> > > > Safe : if the card falls on to the ground, it will not be the same as 
> > > > if it were the camera.
> > > > Slower : I admit this is based upon my own observations with Nikon
> > > > 1 v1, D700 and D4s conneted either via usb2 or usb3.
> > > > Plus, if I do not mistake, this just does import the pictures into
> > > > the database, so they will not be available anymore after unplugging 
> > > > the camera.
> > > > I think, together with others on this list, that the best is to
> > > > copy the files from the card to the disk, and then import them.
> > > > There are many tools that allow organizing while copying, most of
> > > > them have been listed in previous posts.
> > >
> > > But you cannot import directly from SD-card. When doing this, the
> > > photos remain on the SD-Card and the sidecar-files are written on the
> > > SD-card. Sorry but this is a no-go.
> > > The only practicable way is to copy the photos on the harddisk.
> >
> > Yes, indeed.
> > And this is why I use /import/ through the 5 first lines, describing what I 
> > think to be a database related operation (line 6), and then suggest to 
> > /copy/ the files to the disk as the most sensible thing to do.
> >
> > Rgrds,
> >
> > J.-Luc
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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Michael]

ye sir copy to disk and start editing is the only way that makes sense.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 10:46 AM Jean-Luc CECCOLI
 wrote:
>
> > Message du 02/01/21 19:30
> > De : "Tom Whale"
> > A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
> > Copie à :
> > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera
> >
> > On 02.01.2021 at 18:47 Jean-Luc CECCOLI wrote:
> >
> > > I wonder why on earth do some people absolutely want to import right from 
> > > the camera.
> > > It is far slower and less safe than doing it by reading the card from a 
> > > card reader.
> > > Safe : if the card falls on to the ground, it will not be the same as if 
> > > it were the camera.
> > > Slower : I admit this is based upon my own observations with Nikon
> > > 1 v1, D700 and D4s conneted either via usb2 or usb3.
> > > Plus, if I do not mistake, this just does import the pictures into
> > > the database, so they will not be available anymore after unplugging the 
> > > camera.
> > > I think, together with others on this list, that the best is to
> > > copy the files from the card to the disk, and then import them.
> > > There are many tools that allow organizing while copying, most of
> > > them have been listed in previous posts.
> >
> > But you cannot import directly from SD-card. When doing this, the
> > photos remain on the SD-Card and the sidecar-files are written on the
> > SD-card. Sorry but this is a no-go.
> > The only practicable way is to copy the photos on the harddisk.
>
> Yes, indeed.
> And this is why I use /import/ through the 5 first lines, describing what I 
> think to be a database related operation (line 6), and then suggest to /copy/ 
> the files to the disk as the most sensible thing to do.
>
> Rgrds,
>
> J.-Luc
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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

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> Message du 02/01/21 19:30
> De : "Tom Whale" 
> A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
> Copie à : 
> Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera
> 
> On 02.01.2021 at 18:47 Jean-Luc CECCOLI wrote:
> 
> > I wonder why on earth do some people absolutely want to import right from 
> > the camera.
> > It is far slower and less safe than doing it by reading the card from a 
> > card reader.
> > Safe : if the card falls on to the ground, it will not be the same as if it 
> > were the camera.
> > Slower : I admit this is based upon my own observations with Nikon
> > 1 v1, D700 and D4s conneted either via usb2 or usb3. 
> > Plus, if I do not mistake, this just does import the pictures into
> > the database, so they will not be available anymore after unplugging the 
> > camera.
> > I think, together with others on this list, that the best is to
> > copy the files from the card to the disk, and then import them.
> > There are many tools that allow organizing while copying, most of
> > them have been listed in previous posts.
> 
> But you cannot import directly from SD-card. When doing this, the
> photos remain on the SD-Card and the sidecar-files are written on the
> SD-card. Sorry but this is a no-go.
> The only practicable way is to copy the photos on the harddisk.

Yes, indeed.
And this is why I use /import/ through the 5 first lines, describing what I 
think to be a database related operation (line 6), and then suggest to /copy/ 
the files to the disk as the most sensible thing to do.

Rgrds,

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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Marco DE BOOIJ]

I do not know if this is already mentionned. If your photos remain on 
the SD-Card, with the sidecar-files, then you can move (and as a result 
remove) them, in darktable, from the SD-Card to any directory that you 
want. I agree that this is a 2-step solution but this is how darktable 
works.


Op 2/01/2021 om 19:29 schreef Tom Whale:

But  you  cannot  import  directly  from SD-card. When doing this, the
photos  remain on the SD-Card and the sidecar-files are written on the
SD-card. Sorry but this is a no-go.
The only practicable way is to copy the photos on the harddisk.


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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Willy Williams]

Another really good card reader comes from Anker - 
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Portable-Reader-RS-MMC-Micro/dp/B006T9B6R2/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BXI9II028H6I=1=anker+sd+card+reader+usb+3.0=1609611450=anker+sd+card+reader%2Caps%2C238=8-3. 
That said, my G9 has a USB3.0 port on it, so cabling it to one of the 
USB 3.0 ports on my laptop is every bit as fast as, if not faster than 
using the external card reader, and negates the need to extract the 
cards from the camera and replace them later.  Doing so does not 
transfer the images to the darktable database, but does make the files 
available to be imported when darktable is opened and the folders are 
accessed.


Willy Williams

*

On 1/2/2021 at 13:05, DougC wrote:
I agree. Also, a high quality SD card reader can be significantly 
faster (10x or more) than a cheaper one.


A good one is the ProGrade DUAL-SLOT SD reader p/n PGRWSDHCXCANA but 
there are others.




 On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 12:47:46 -0500 *Jean-Luc CECCOLI 
* wrote 


I wonder why on earth do some people absolutely want to import
right from the camera.
It is far slower and less safe than doing it by reading the card
from a card reader.
Safe : if the card falls on to the ground, it will not be the same
as if it were the camera.
Slower : I admit this is based upon my own observations with Nikon
1 v1, D700 and D4s conneted either via usb2 or usb3.
Plus, if I do not mistake, this just does import the pictures into
the database, so they will not be available anymore after
unplugging the camera.
I think, together with others on this list, that the best is to
copy the files from the card to the disk, and then import them.
There are many tools that allow organizing while copying, most of
them have been listed in previous posts.




 
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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Beate Schroeder-Wettwer]

Sorry, but that is not the case. I always import from SD card.It is 
recognized as  'Mass Storgae Camera' once it is mounted. If not mounted 
the import button only shows  import from 'image ' and 'folder'. In 
darktable preferences i can set the parameters like 'base directory' 
etc. where I want to safe my pictures


On 2/1/21 7:29 pm, Tom Whale wrote:



But  you  cannot  import  directly  from SD-card. When doing this, the
photos  remain on the SD-Card and the sidecar-files are written on the
SD-card. Sorry but this is a no-go.
The only practicable way is to copy the photos on the harddisk.


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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Tom Whale]

On 02.01.2021 at 18:47 Jean-Luc CECCOLI wrote:

> I wonder why on earth do some people absolutely want to import right from the 
> camera.
> It is far slower and less safe than doing it by reading the card from a card 
> reader.
> Safe : if the card falls on to the ground, it will not be the same as if it 
> were the camera.
> Slower : I admit this is based upon my own observations with Nikon
> 1 v1, D700 and D4s conneted either via usb2 or usb3. 
> Plus, if I do not mistake, this just does import the pictures into
> the database, so they will not be available anymore after unplugging the 
> camera.
> I think, together with others on this list, that the best is to
> copy the files from the card to the disk, and then import them.
> There are many tools that allow organizing while copying, most of
> them have been listed in previous posts.

But  you  cannot  import  directly  from SD-card. When doing this, the
photos  remain on the SD-Card and the sidecar-files are written on the
SD-card. Sorry but this is a no-go.
The only practicable way is to copy the photos on the harddisk.


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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Bernhard]

Jean-Luc CECCOLI schrieb am 02.01.21 um 18:47:

Plus, if I do not mistake, this just does import the pictures into the 
database, so they will not be available anymore after unplugging the camera.
I do not use this feature for years since there is RPD which gives me 
more possibilities.

But in earlier times
- import from camera copied the files to some folder on the computer 
(see import options) and then import this new location to the database
- import from some other drive will just import the location of the file 
to the database


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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[DougC]

I agree. Also, a high quality SD card reader can be significantly faster (10x 
or more) than a cheaper one.



A good one is the ProGrade DUAL-SLOT SD reader p/n PGRWSDHCXCANA but there are 
others.





 On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 12:47:46 -0500 Jean-Luc CECCOLI 
 wrote 


I wonder why on earth do some people absolutely want to import right from the 
camera. 
It is far slower and less safe than doing it by reading the card from a card 
reader. 
Safe : if the card falls on to the ground, it will not be the same as if it 
were the camera. 
Slower : I admit this is based upon my own observations with Nikon 1 v1, D700 
and D4s conneted either via usb2 or usb3. 
Plus, if I do not mistake, this just does import the pictures into the 
database, so they will not be available anymore after unplugging the camera. 
I think, together with others on this list, that the best is to copy the files 
from the card to the disk, and then import them. 
There are many tools that allow organizing while copying, most of them have 
been listed in previous posts.

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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

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> Message du 02/01/21 16:44
> De : "KOVÁCS István" 
> A : "Darktable Users List" 
> Copie à : 
> Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera
> 
> On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 at 20:27, Willy Williams  wrote:
> >
> > When you open lighttable, you'll see an "import" function top left directly 
> > under the darktable logo.
> > Click on "import and you'll see two possibilities; "image..." and 
> > "folder...". Assuming that
> > you're looking for a folder on your camera, click on "folder...". When the 
> > folder window
> > pops up, look for your camera and find the folder on your camera that 
> > contains your images.
> 
> Wouldn't that register the images in darktable's DB with the paths on
> the camera, without copying them over?
> https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/darktable_basic_workflow.html#darktable_basic_workflow_importing_from_camera
> 'If your distribution tries to automount it, select the option to
> abort the mount operation'
> 
> And also here:
> https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/module-reference/utility-modules/lighttable/import/#import-from-a-connected-camera
> 
> Kofa

I wonder why on earth do some people absolutely want to import right from the 
camera.
It is far slower and less safe than doing it by reading the card from a card 
reader.
Safe : if the card falls on to the ground, it will not be the same as if it 
were the camera.
Slower : I admit this is based upon my own observations with Nikon 1 v1, D700 
and D4s conneted either via usb2 or usb3. 
Plus, if I do not mistake, this just does import the pictures into the 
database, so they will not be available anymore after unplugging the camera.
I think, together with others on this list, that the best is to copy the files 
from the card to the disk, and then import them.
There are many tools that allow organizing while copying, most of them have 
been listed in previous posts.

Rgrds,

J.-Luc

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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Willy Williams]

You are mostly correct, Kofa.  TFM says, "When a camera is detected, it 
will show up in the device panel after pressing “scan for devices”. If 
you hover your mouse over the camera tab label, a tooltip will pop up 
with information about the camera (model, firmware version etc.)." With 
my own Lumix G9 camera, that apparently is not the case as the "scan for 
devices" button does not appear.  The G9 appears to the computer as just 
another pair of file folders (JPGs and RAW files), once I tell the G9 to 
appear as a storage device, not a tethered camera.  So far, the G9 is 
not recognized by darktable for tethering.


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On 1/2/21 10:44 AM, KOVÁCS István wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 at 20:27, Willy Williams  wrote:

When you open lighttable, you'll see an "import" function top left directly 
under the darktable logo.
Click on "import and you'll see two possibilities; "image..." and "folder...".  
Assuming that
you're looking for a folder on your camera, click on "folder...".  When the 
folder window
pops up, look for your camera and find the folder on your camera that contains 
your images.

Wouldn't that register the images in darktable's DB with the paths on
the camera, without copying them over?
https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/darktable_basic_workflow.html#darktable_basic_workflow_importing_from_camera
'If your distribution tries to automount it, select the option to
abort the mount operation'

And also here:
https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/module-reference/utility-modules/lighttable/import/#import-from-a-connected-camera

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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[KOVÁCS István]

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 at 20:27, Willy Williams  wrote:
>
> When you open lighttable, you'll see an "import" function top left directly 
> under the darktable logo.
> Click on "import and you'll see two possibilities; "image..." and 
> "folder...".  Assuming that
> you're looking for a folder on your camera, click on "folder...".  When the 
> folder window
> pops up, look for your camera and find the folder on your camera that 
> contains your images.

Wouldn't that register the images in darktable's DB with the paths on
the camera, without copying them over?
https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/darktable_basic_workflow.html#darktable_basic_workflow_importing_from_camera
'If your distribution tries to automount it, select the option to
abort the mount operation'

And also here:
https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/module-reference/utility-modules/lighttable/import/#import-from-a-connected-camera

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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Willy Williams  [01-01-21 14:32]:
> When you open lighttable, you'll see an "import" function top left directly
> under the darktable logo. Click on "import and you'll see two possibilities;
> "image..." and "folder...".  Assuming that you're looking for a folder on
> your camera, click on "folder...".  When the folder window pops up, look for
> your camera and find the folder on your camera that contains your images. 
> Piece of cake!

*only* if one bothers to rtfm :)

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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Willy Williams]

When you open lighttable, you'll see an "import" function top left 
directly under the darktable logo. Click on "import and you'll see two 
possibilities; "image..." and "folder...".  Assuming that you're looking 
for a folder on your camera, click on "folder...".  When the folder 
window pops up, look for your camera and find the folder on your camera 
that contains your images.  Piece of cake!


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On 1/1/2021 at 11:53, Tom Whale wrote:

On 01.01.2021 at 02:12 nanoq wrote:


Hi Jim,
You will find the Scan For Devices button in the left uppermost
part of lighttable view. Make sure you have scrolled up there!!
There you will find the Import section with the tabs Picture and directory. 
That is it.

This is how it looks, there is nothing to scroll, no button:
https://imgur.com/a/sOe4k44


Why not copy your photos from your camera to your hdd and then
import them (directory button) to your DT database in a second step?
Besides your problem might be that your windows as well as DT want
to simultaneously acces your camera via usb. That probably daesn't
work. If you for reasons I don't know have to directly import from
you camera try to disconnect your camera from Windows (little icon
in your taskbar I think - I am on Linux). This way DT could have
exclusive access to your camera. At least that is the way it works for 
tethering.

Thanks  to  all  here  helping  me.  I guess best would be to copy the
photos from my SD to my photos folder on my harddisk.


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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Tom Whale]

On 01.01.2021 at 02:12 nanoq wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> You will find the Scan For Devices button in the left uppermost
> part of lighttable view. Make sure you have scrolled up there!!
> There you will find the Import section with the tabs Picture and directory. 
> That is it.

This is how it looks, there is nothing to scroll, no button:
https://imgur.com/a/sOe4k44

> Why not copy your photos from your camera to your hdd and then
> import them (directory button) to your DT database in a second step?
> Besides your problem might be that your windows as well as DT want
> to simultaneously acces your camera via usb. That probably daesn't
> work. If you for reasons I don't know have to directly import from
> you camera try to disconnect your camera from Windows (little icon
> in your taskbar I think - I am on Linux). This way DT could have
> exclusive access to your camera. At least that is the way it works for 
> tethering.

Thanks  to  all  here  helping  me.  I guess best would be to copy the
photos from my SD to my photos folder on my harddisk.


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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[nanoq]

Am 31.12.20 um 14:43 schrieb Jim Robinson:
see: https://www.darktable.org/about/faq/ 
 (about half way down the page)


On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 at 11:17, Tom Whale > wrote:



Hello Users,
I'm new to darktable (3.4.0), just doing my first steps with it.
At the moment, I'm struggling with importing photos from my camera
(Canon EOS600D).
After connecting the camera to my PC (Windows10) via USB, Windows
finds the camera and asks me what to do. But whatever I choose, the
camera won't get visible in darktable. So I cannot import from it. I
googled and searched the manuals but the only hint I found was

 > If you don’t see your camera listed in the import module, press
the “scan for devices” button.

But where is that button?
Am I missing something?
When disconnecting the camera, darktable shows for a short time the
message "Locked: Canon 600D on USB001:022" or similar.


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Hi Jim,
You will find the Scan For Devices button in the left uppermost part of 
lighttable view. Make sure you have scrolled up there!! There you will 
find the Import section with the tabs Picture and directory. That is it.
Why not copy your photos from your camera to your hdd and then import 
them (directory button) to your DT database in a second step?
Besides your problem might be that your windows as well as DT want to 
simultaneously acces your camera via usb. That probably daesn't work. If 
you for reasons I don't know have to directly import from you camera try 
to disconnect your camera from Windows (little icon in your taskbar I 
think - I am on Linux). This way DT could have exclusive access to your 
camera. At least that is the way it works for tethering.


HTH
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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Michael Rasmussen]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:14:24 -0500
DougC  wrote:

> I concur with Anton. I use Beyond Compare from Scooter Software for
> file copying to/from SD cards. Works far faster and more reliably
> than native operations. Available for Windows, Mac, and Linux. Well
> worth the small price.
> 
If you are using Linux Rapid Photo Downloader is also recommendable -
an free;-)
https://damonlynch.net/rapid/

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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Francesco Scaglioni]

FWIW : "Rapid photo downloader" is a superb piece of software for card 
imports


On 31/12/2020 14:14, DougC wrote:
I concur with Anton. I use Beyond Compare from Scooter Software for 
file copying to/from SD cards. Works far faster and more reliably than 
native operations. Available for Windows, Mac, and Linux. Well worth 
the small price.


I've never understood why photo editing software needs to include the 
file copying operation. Not an essential feature, IMO.




 
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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[DougC]

I concur with Anton. I use Beyond Compare from Scooter Software for file 
copying to/from SD cards. Works far faster and more reliably than native 
operations. Available for Windows, Mac, and Linux. Well worth the small price.



I've never understood why photo editing software needs to include the file 
copying operation. Not an essential feature, IMO.

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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Anton Aylward]

On 31/12/2020 06:10, Tom Whale wrote:
Hello Users, I'm new to darktable (3.4.0), just doing my first steps with it. 

>

At the moment, I'm struggling with importing photos from my camera (Canon
EOS600D). After connecting the camera to my PC (Windows10) via USB, Windows
finds the camera and asks me what to do. But whatever I choose, the camera
won't get visible in darktable. So I cannot import from it.


You won't like my answer.

1. I've never had this problem with my cameras, Canon, Fuji or Sony.
   But then I use Linux :-/

2. When I upload from the camera I find it suck the camera battery.
   This is particularly acute with my Canon, so-so with the Fuji
   and annoying but not as crippling with the Canon when I use the Sony.

3. Annoyed by the above I pulled the card, used a USB adapter and the file
   manager to transfer the RAW/JPG onto the computer, then imported to DT.
   Much faster!  Less wear and tear on the cameras and on my psyche.

"Tether"  I ONLY use that for a live-view.  My cameras have video output of some 
sort and with suitable cable I can run that to my phone or tablet; larger screen.
Right now it only works on the Sony and only bench-top and not quite the way 
you'll find described by some users on YouTube, 'cos this model was never designed 
for that, but apparently it's a lot easier with Canons which are.  But then the 
Sony does great video.  YMMV.


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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Jim Robinson]

see: https://www.darktable.org/about/faq/ (about half way down the page)

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 at 11:17, Tom Whale  wrote:

>
> Hello Users,
> I'm new to darktable (3.4.0), just doing my first steps with it.
> At the moment, I'm struggling with importing photos from my camera (Canon
> EOS600D).
> After connecting the camera to my PC (Windows10) via USB, Windows finds
> the camera and asks me what to do. But whatever I choose, the camera won't
> get visible in darktable. So I cannot import from it. I googled and
> searched the manuals but the only hint I found was
>
> > If you don’t see your camera listed in the import module, press the
> “scan for devices” button.
>
> But where is that button?
> Am I missing something?
> When disconnecting the camera, darktable shows for a short time the
> message "Locked: Canon 600D on USB001:022" or similar.
>
>
> 
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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Martin Straeten]

Please read https://www.darktable.org/about/faq/#faq-tethering
You need to install a proper usb driver...

> Am 31.12.2020 um 12:18 schrieb Tom Whale :
> 
> Hello Users,
> I'm new to darktable (3.4.0), just doing my first steps with it.
> At the moment, I'm struggling with importing photos from my camera (Canon 
> EOS600D).
> After connecting the camera to my PC (Windows10) via USB, Windows finds the 
> camera and asks me what to do. But whatever I choose, the camera won't get 
> visible in darktable. So I cannot import from it. I googled and searched the 
> manuals but the only hint I found was
> 
>> If you don’t see your camera listed in the import module, press the “scan 
>> for devices” button.
> 
> But where is that button?
> Am I missing something?
> When disconnecting the camera, darktable shows for a short time the message 
> "Locked: Canon 600D on USB001:022" or similar.
> 
> 
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