Re: [darktable-user] tethering mode crashes darktable

[Tobias Ellinghaus]

Am Samstag, 21. April 2018, 18:42:07 CEST schrieb eltros:
> Hi,
> 
> I’m using DT 2.4.2
> The OSX crash report is

Hmm, that doesn't tell me anything. :-(

Tobias

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Re: [darktable-user] Re: darktable not setting creator

[Tobias Ellinghaus]

Am Sonntag, 22. April 2018, 09:09:09 CEST schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder:
> Am 22.04.2018 um 09:01 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I just realized that since this year darktable is not setting the default
> > "creator" for imported pictures anymore. I have set my name in the
> > "creator to be applied when importing" field. And I actually never
> > changed that. How can I debug this?
> I just found out that it is camera specific and not date specific. The
> creator is always set for my Canon 6D. But not so for Canon 20D, Fuji X100
> and Canon G9X II.
> 
> The Fuji and the G9X get a blank creator, while the Canon 20D gets "unknown"
> creator. And this is true for several years now. But since I mostly take
> pictures with my 6D I never realized it.
> 
> Whats going wrong?

Are any error messages shown when starting darktable from a terminal?

> Matthias

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Re: [darktable-user] Geotagging module hangs

[Tobias Ellinghaus]

Am Sonntag, 22. April 2018, 12:21:06 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich Davletshin:
> Yes, it does. One CPU core is 99% loaded all the time until operation
> is finished. Interface is not responding.

What is the number of worker threads set to in the dt preferences?

> On Sun, 2018-04-22 at 12:16 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 21. April 2018, 18:29:37 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich
> > 
> > Davletshin:
> > > I have touched nothing related to Lua scripts.
> > 
> > Does dt use CPU while hanging?
> > 
> > [...]
> 
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Re: [darktable-user] Geotagging module hangs

[Tobias Ellinghaus]

Am Samstag, 21. April 2018, 18:29:37 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich Davletshin:
> I have touched nothing related to Lua scripts.

Does dt use CPU while hanging?

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Re: [darktable-user] Geotagging module hangs

[Timur Irikovich Davletshin]

Yes, it does. One CPU core is 99% loaded all the time until operation
is finished. Interface is not responding.

On Sun, 2018-04-22 at 12:16 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> Am Samstag, 21. April 2018, 18:29:37 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich
> Davletshin:
> > I have touched nothing related to Lua scripts.
> 
> Does dt use CPU while hanging?
> 
> [...]

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Re: [darktable-user] Geotagging module hangs

[Timur Irikovich Davletshin]

2

On Sun, 2018-04-22 at 12:57 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 22. April 2018, 12:21:06 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich
> Davletshin:
> > Yes, it does. One CPU core is 99% loaded all the time until
> > operation
> > is finished. Interface is not responding.
> 
> What is the number of worker threads set to in the dt preferences?
> 
> > On Sun, 2018-04-22 at 12:16 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> > > Am Samstag, 21. April 2018, 18:29:37 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich
> > > 
> > > Davletshin:
> > > > I have touched nothing related to Lua scripts.
> > > 
> > > Does dt use CPU while hanging?
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > 
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Re: [darktable-user] Darkrtable segfaults on start

[dt-list]

Actually, I guess this must have something to do with thumbnail
creation.  I can easily trigger the crash with

$ rm -rf ~/.cache/darktable

and then scrolling up throught the photo collection.  Now darktable
always crashes immediately when I start it.  I have attached a ggb
backtrace of this.

If too many threads get started as Johannes suggests, then maybe the
scheduling logic is broken?

Anything else I can try?



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Re: [darktable-user] Darkrtable segfaults on start

[Michael Below]

This may be a general load issue on your system. Maybe check the temperature 
sensors and run a RAM test.

Cheers
Michael

Am 22. April 2018 13:42:32 MESZ schrieb dt-l...@stefan-klinger.de:
>Actually, I guess this must have something to do with thumbnail
>creation.  I can easily trigger the crash with
>
>$ rm -rf ~/.cache/darktable
>
>and then scrolling up throught the photo collection.  Now darktable
>always crashes immediately when I start it.  I have attached a ggb
>backtrace of this.
>
>If too many threads get started as Johannes suggests, then maybe the
>scheduling logic is broken?
>
>Anything else I can try?

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[darktable-user] darktable not setting creator

[Matthias Bodenbinder]

Hi,

I just realized that since this year darktable is not setting the default 
"creator" for imported pictures anymore. I have set my name in the "creator to 
be applied when importing" field. And I actually never changed that. How can I 
debug this?

Matthias


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[darktable-user] Re: darktable not setting creator

[Matthias Bodenbinder]

Am 22.04.2018 um 09:01 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder:
> Hi,
> 
> I just realized that since this year darktable is not setting the default 
> "creator" for imported pictures anymore. I have set my name in the "creator 
> to be applied when importing" field. And I actually never changed that. How 
> can I debug this?
> 

I just found out that it is camera specific and not date specific. The creator 
is always set for my Canon 6D. But not so for Canon 20D, Fuji X100 and Canon 
G9X II.

The Fuji and the G9X get a blank creator, while the Canon 20D gets "unknown" 
creator. And this is true for several years now. But since I mostly take 
pictures with my 6D I never realized it. 

Whats going wrong?

Matthias


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[darktable-user] exFAT-Filesystem on SDXC-card supported?

[Frank J.]

Hallo,
is the exFAT-Filesystem supported by darktable?

In the past I used SD-Cards up to 16 GB which are formatted whith a 
FAT-filesystem. My new card is a SDXC-card with 64 GB space. My camera 
(Olympus) formatted the card with an exFAT-filesystem.


On the first import linux (Ubuntu 16.04) and Darktable (2.4.2) can't 
read this filesystem.
After installing "exfat-fuse" and "exfat-utils" linux can read the 
exfat-filesystem.


But darktable still shows in the import-tab:
  "no supported devices found"

I copied the RAW-files to a folder and imported the folder into darktable.
An import directly from the card with move to a folder is not possible.

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[darktable-user] Re: darktable not setting creator

[Matthias Bodenbinder]

Am 22.04.2018 um 12:26 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus:
> Am Sonntag, 22. April 2018, 09:09:09 CEST schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder:
>> Am 22.04.2018 um 09:01 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just realized that since this year darktable is not setting the default
>>> "creator" for imported pictures anymore. I have set my name in the
>>> "creator to be applied when importing" field. And I actually never
>>> changed that. How can I debug this?
>> I just found out that it is camera specific and not date specific. The
>> creator is always set for my Canon 6D. But not so for Canon 20D, Fuji X100
>> and Canon G9X II.
>>
>> The Fuji and the G9X get a blank creator, while the Canon 20D gets "unknown"
>> creator. And this is true for several years now. But since I mostly take
>> pictures with my 6D I never realized it.
>>
>> Whats going wrong?
> 
> Are any error messages shown when starting darktable from a terminal?
> 
>> Matthias
> 
> Tobias
> 

With darktable -d  camsupport I see the following:

Importing Canon 20D RAW. Several of these messages:
61,564003 [exiv2] Directory Canon has an unexpected next pointer; ignored.
...
62,446203 [exiv2] Directory Canon has an unexpected next pointer; ignored.


For PowerShot G9X II and Fuji X100 there are no messages





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Re: [darktable-user] Darkrtable segfaults on start

[johannes hanika]

heya,

worker_threads=8 does sound high. i'm using 2 here. note that all
image processing is parallelised to all cores independently of this
setting. this is just for slight overscheduling of different tasks, to
hide the few bits of scalar code between the parallel sections. i.e.
on a 16-thread machine (maybe hyperthreaded 8-core), you'd get
something like 2x16=32 threads with two worker threads, plus the gui
thread. i'd try reducing this setting.

cheers,
 jo

On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 3:26 AM,   wrote:
> johannes hanika (2018-Apr-21, excerpt):
>> did you at some point adjust the number of worker threads by any
>> chance?
>
> Not that I'd be aware of.  I have
>
> $ grep work ~/.config/darktable/darktablerc
> worker_threads=8
>
> Anyplace else?
>
>> there is a surprising amount of different stuff going on that
>> all allocates memory.. 8GB isn't all that much in the end.
>
> Well I never see darktable using more than 2GB, so theres like 6GB
> left unused.
>
>> among others, the nvidia opencl backend tries to malloc something, too. so 
>> i'd
>>
>> * look through settings for super large number of worker threads somewhere
>> * try with `darktable --disable-opencl` to see whether the driver
>> needs all the memory
>
> Also segfaults.  I'll attach a backtrace as before:
>
> $ gdb --args darktable --disable-opencl
> (gdb) set logging on
> (gdb) run
> (gdb) thread apply all backtrace
>
> The picture is not entirely clear: After trying many times, it
> suddenly works.  Then I can sometimes recreate the error condition by
> selecting one image, copy the history stack (copy all), select 30
> images, and paste the history stack (paste all, overwrite).
> “Sometimes” as in “this triggers the error, but not always”.
>
> The following is the output from Nvidia's monitoring tool, started
> before, and terminated after a crash.  To me it does not look like
> running out of memory.
>
> $ nvidia-smi dmon
> # gpu   pwr  tempsm   mem   enc   dec  mclk  pclk
> # Idx W C % % % %   MHz   MHz
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 1 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 2 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 1 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 3 4 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01243 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 01245 0 3 0 0   405   139
> 02945 0 1 0 0  3802  1544
> 02946 0 0 0 0  3802  1544
> 0294610 3 0 0  3802  1544
> 02946 2 1 0 0  3802  1544
> 02946 0 0 0 0  3802  1544
> 02946 0 0 0 0  3802  1544
> 02946 0 0 0 0  3802  1544
> 02945 0 0 0 0  3802  1544
> 02946 0 0 0 0  3802  1544
> # gpu   pwr  tempsm   mem   enc   dec  mclk  pclk
> # Idx W C % % % %   MHz   MHz
> 02946 0 0 0 0  3802  1544
> 03046 0 0 0 0  4006  1544
> 03046  

Re: [darktable-user] Access on photo database from multiple computers

[Patrick Shanahan]

* georg.tro...@uni-dortmund.de  [04-22-18 15:52]:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I’m trying to find a concept how to use darktable from two computers 
> simultanously.
> 
> I learned from google, that one can either sync the library.db file or use 
> one one common.
> 
>  
> 
> I decided to use one common library.db.
> 
>  
> 
> So far I havn’t tried to use a second PC. 
> 
>  
> 
> My questions:
> 
> * There is a lock file, when I’m trying to open two instances of dt on 
> the same PC. Isn’t this a problem for my case?

there is, and I would think it would be.

> * There is a second db-file. Seems I cannot relocate it. At least I 
> cannot set a path on it. What’s its content?

contains setting, hotkeys and styles and perhaps more,
~/.config/darktable/data.db

on linux

> Georg
> 
>  
> 
> BTW: I’ve been using dt now for alomost one year on linux, but have moved to 
> windows 10 now, since my ubuntu died ☹

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[darktable-user] Access on photo database from multiple computers

[georg.troska]

Hi,

 

I’m trying to find a concept how to use darktable from two computers 
simultanously.

I learned from google, that one can either sync the library.db file or use one 
one common.

 

I decided to use one common library.db.

 

So far I havn’t tried to use a second PC. 

 

My questions:

*   There is a lock file, when I’m trying to open two instances of dt on 
the same PC. Isn’t this a problem for my case?
*   There is a second db-file. Seems I cannot relocate it. At least I 
cannot set a path on it. What’s its content?

 

Thanks

Georg

 

BTW: I’ve been using dt now for alomost one year on linux, but have moved to 
windows 10 now, since my ubuntu died ☹



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Re: [darktable-user] exFAT-Filesystem on SDXC-card supported?

[junkyardsparkle]

On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, at 00:34, Frank J. wrote:
> Hallo,
> is the exFAT-Filesystem supported by darktable?
> 
> In the past I used SD-Cards up to 16 GB which are formatted whith a 
> FAT-filesystem. My new card is a SDXC-card with 64 GB space. My camera 
> (Olympus) formatted the card with an exFAT-filesystem.
> 
> On the first import linux (Ubuntu 16.04) and Darktable (2.4.2) can't 
> read this filesystem.
> After installing "exfat-fuse" and "exfat-utils" linux can read the 
> exfat-filesystem.
> 
> But darktable still shows in the import-tab:
>"no supported devices found"
> 
> I copied the RAW-files to a folder and imported the folder into darktable.
> An import directly from the card with move to a folder is not possible.

Assuming your system is auto-mounting the card reader or camera, did you try 
pointing darktable to the mount point? The fuse module is a little different 
from actual low-level OS support for the filesystem.

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[darktable-user] Re: darktable not setting creator

[Matthias Bodenbinder]

Am 22.04.2018 um 12:26 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus:
> Am Sonntag, 22. April 2018, 09:09:09 CEST schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder:
>> Am 22.04.2018 um 09:01 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just realized that since this year darktable is not setting the default
>>> "creator" for imported pictures anymore. I have set my name in the
>>> "creator to be applied when importing" field. And I actually never
>>> changed that. How can I debug this?
>> I just found out that it is camera specific and not date specific. The
>> creator is always set for my Canon 6D. But not so for Canon 20D, Fuji X100
>> and Canon G9X II.
>>
>> The Fuji and the G9X get a blank creator, while the Canon 20D gets "unknown"
>> creator. And this is true for several years now. But since I mostly take
>> pictures with my 6D I never realized it.
>>
>> Whats going wrong?
> 
> Are any error messages shown when starting darktable from a terminal?
> 
>> Matthias
> 
> Tobias
> 

I did a full test for a Canon 6D picture (IMG_6691.CR2) and a Canon G9XII 
picture (IMG_0627.CR2). I removed the pictures from the database and deleted 
the XMP file. Then I ran "darktable -d all" and imported the pictures again. 
The result is that the 6D XMP file contains 

   

 M. Bodenbinder

   

while the G9XII XMP has no such entry.

I can not see any issues in the log files. I attached the logs and the xmp 
files to this email. I hope somebody can shed some light on this.

Matthias


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  http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/;
xmlns:xmpMM="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/mm/;
xmlns:darktable="http://darktable.sf.net/;
   xmp:Rating="0"
   xmpMM:DerivedFrom="IMG_0627.CR2"
   darktable:xmp_version="2"
   darktable:raw_params="0"
   darktable:auto_presets_applied="1"
   darktable:history_end="7">
   

   
   

   
   

   
   

   
   

   
   

   
   

   
   

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

   
  
 



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 http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#;>
  http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/;
xmlns:xmpMM="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/mm/;
xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/;
xmlns:darktable="http://darktable.sf.net/;
   xmp:Rating="0"
   xmpMM:DerivedFrom="IMG_6691.CR2"
   darktable:xmp_version="2"
   darktable:raw_params="0"
   darktable:auto_presets_applied="1"
   darktable:history_end="7">
   

 M. Bodenbinder

   
   

   
   

   
   

   
   

   
   

   
   

   
   

   
   

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

   
  
 

[darktable-user] Putting darktable on a chromebook

[Michael]

can it be done? How?


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Re: [darktable-user] Darkrtable segfaults on start

[dt-list]

Germano Massullo (2018-Apr-22, excerpt):
> darktable Redmine bugreport platform is the proper place where you can talk
> about crashes

This is now Bug #12149

https://redmine.darktable.org/issues/12149



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Re: [darktable-user] Darkrtable segfaults on start

[dt-list]

Michael Below (2018-Apr-22, excerpt):
> This may be a general load issue on your system. Maybe check the
> temperature sensors and run a RAM test.

Generally my system is very stable, even under heavy load.  I do not
see crashes other than the one related to darktable, and that one is
limited in its effect to darktabel.

E.g., *compiling* darkrtable may rise temperature to 49℃, without any
issues in stability.  On the other hand, when darkrtable segfaults as
described, temperature stays well below 36℃.

Also, when the problem occurs, the system is not actually under heavy
load!  There is no slow down in interaction (e.g., sticky mouse
pointer) nor other signs of overload as I sometimes see on my old
netbook when firefox opens too many tabs...

Anyways, I'll run a memtest and report on that later...



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