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Re: partman (was Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive)
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 10:46:05PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: We do have a beta3 branch in the repo, but it's acting more like a tag, I guess, no changes have been made to it. I tried the new partman, and it works great. Wow, that's a lot of work! My only quibble is with the use of the term Wizard, as in Use the Wizard to partition. I don't think wizard is a proper noun, so should not be capitalised, and I don't see how this is better than the old Automatically partition. It assumes that the user is familiar with windows wizard-type things (and doesn't hate them ;-), and seems overly cute to me. Just my $0.05 worth... On a system that I've already got an operating system installed on, that I really, really would prefer not to hose, I'm going to fear and distrust anything that uses the words Automatic and Partition together, and choose some other option that implies I have more control over whether or not I accidentally hose the partition that has my other OS on it... Particularly if I'm not confident before selecting the item that it isn't going to go off on it's merry way and do something unrevertable before I get a chance to go hang on!. I suspect users new to Linux/Debian but familiar with PCs in general are going to take this line of reasoning. regards Andrew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#234344: marked as done (debian-installer-demo: bootstrap error)
Your message dated Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:00:32 -0400 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line fixed in d-i beta 3 has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 23 Feb 2004 10:18:48 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 23 02:18:48 2004 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from postfix4-2.free.fr [213.228.0.176] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1AvDAl-0005iT-00; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 02:18:48 -0800 Received: from eric.placeverte.home (lns-th2-14-82-64-60-112.adsl.proxad.net [82.64.60.112]) by postfix4-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C897C5F4; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 11:18:41 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric MC DECLERCK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Bug Tracking System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: debian-installer-demo: bootstrap error X-Mailer: reportbug 2.39 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 11:18:25 +0100 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_02_22 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_02_22 X-Spam-Level: Package: debian-installer-demo Version: debian-installer sarge Severity: normal -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux eric.placeverte.home 2.4.24-1-686 #1 Wed Feb 4 20:22:14 EST 2004 i686 Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignored: LC_ALL set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] When installing over an existing debian-like system without creating a NEW filesystem, sytem stops after a bootstrap error. Dbootstrap.log reports : file awk already installed. ) --- Received: (at 234344-done) by bugs.debian.org; 7 Apr 2004 04:04:54 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Apr 06 21:04:54 2004 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from kitenet.net [64.62.161.42] (postfix) by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BB4J4-Js-00; Tue, 06 Apr 2004 21:04:54 -0700 Received: from dragon.kitenet.net (216-98-94-107.access.naxs.com [216.98.94.107]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN Joey Hess, Issuer Joey Hess (verified OK)) by kitenet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A55417E2D for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 7 Apr 2004 04:04:12 + (GMT) Received: by dragon.kitenet.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 172136ECB8; Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:00:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:00:32 -0400 From: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: fixed in d-i beta 3 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=application/pgp-signature; boundary=vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: X-CrossAssassin-Scores: 1 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ths problem is fixed in beta 3 of the debian installer. --=20 see shy jo --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAc3zgd8HHehbQuO8RAsTQAJ98rD2OokjpcBlPZxpjc9rrhx0ltwCff/It PcwKBnp8DlyuA48hjwwlZy0= =dOUi -END PGP SIGNATURE- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Processed: d-i cleanup
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: tag 231432 - sid Bug#231432: debian-installer-demo: Installer doesn't detect my IDE drive anymore Tags were: sid Tags removed: sid reassign 231432 installation-reports Bug#231432: debian-installer-demo: Installer doesn't detect my IDE drive anymore Bug reassigned from package `debian-installer' to `installation-reports'. tag 231432 moreinfo Bug#231432: debian-installer-demo: Installer doesn't detect my IDE drive anymore There were no tags set. Tags added: moreinfo reassign 241637 installation-reports Bug#241637: debian-installer: Floppy images from yesterday didn't detect my IDE drive Bug reassigned from package `debian-installer' to `installation-reports'. severity 241637 normal Bug#241637: debian-installer: Floppy images from yesterday didn't detect my IDE drive Severity set to `normal'. severity 231432 normal Bug#231432: debian-installer-demo: Installer doesn't detect my IDE drive anymore Severity set to `normal'. reassign 242343 installation-reports Bug#242343: debian-installer beta 3 sparc netinst image failed to boot up on Ultra10 Bug reassigned from package `debian-installer' to `installation-reports'. retitle 236487 keyboard does not work on dell dimension 8250 Bug#236487: Debian-installer (sarge) hangs on boot Changed Bug title. reassign 238593 kernel-image-di-alpha Bug#238593: debian-installer hangs on qlogicisp (Alpha Platform) Warning: Unknown package 'kernel-image-di-alpha' Bug reassigned from package `debian-installer' to `kernel-image-di-alpha'. reassign 239758 base-installer Bug#239758: debian-installer: tmpfs disk gets full when trying bootstrapping again Bug reassigned from package `debian-installer' to `base-installer'. reassign 239761 installation-reports Bug#239761: debian-installer: network driver not loaded after reboot Bug reassigned from package `debian-installer' to `installation-reports'. reassign 240644 base-config Bug#240644: Debian installer b3 can't display correct chinese char after reboot during installation. Bug reassigned from package `debian-installer' to `base-config'. reassign 240373 libdebian-installer Bug#240373: installs kernel-image package Bug reassigned from package `debian-installer' to `libdebian-installer'. tag 240373 d-i Bug#240373: installs kernel-image package There were no tags set. Tags added: d-i reassign 239752 download-installer Bug#239752: debian-installer: small typo in Norwegian translation Bug reassigned from package `debian-installer' to `download-installer'. tag 239752 d-i Bug#239752: debian-installer: small typo in Norwegian translation There were no tags set. Tags added: d-i tag 239752 l10n Bug#239752: debian-installer: small typo in Norwegian translation Tags were: d-i Tags added: l10n -- Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#239763: marked as done (debian-installer: bad cdrom entry in generated fstab)
Your message dated Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:16:28 -0400 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line fixed has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 24 Mar 2004 06:58:21 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 23 22:58:21 2004 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail58-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.58] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1B62LC-cW-00; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:58:19 -0800 Received: from renegade (ti100710a080-6516.bb.online.no [80.213.249.116]) by mail58-s.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04264; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:58:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from ovek by renegade with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1B62LD-ca-00; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:58:19 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ove Kaaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Bug Tracking System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: debian-installer: bad cdrom entry in generated fstab X-Mailer: reportbug 2.54 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:58:19 +0100 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Ove Kaaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_12 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_RFCI_DSN, HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_12 X-Spam-Level: Package: debian-installer Severity: normal After my complete network installation of debian unstable, using DHCP, PXE-booting, TFTP, and stuff, which pretty much worked, the generated /etc/fstab contains a cdrom entry without a device name, like so: /dev/hda3 / ext2 ... /cdrom iso9660 ... which is probably not the right thing to do. Would be better to use /dev/cdrom or just not add the entry if the installer doesn't know if I have a cdrom drive or not (like when I didn't boot from one). -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.4.25-1-k7 Locale: LANG=no_NO.ISO-8859-1, LC_CTYPE=no_NO.ISO-8859-1 --- Received: (at 239763-done) by bugs.debian.org; 7 Apr 2004 04:21:14 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Apr 06 21:21:14 2004 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from kitenet.net [64.62.161.42] (postfix) by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BB4Ys-000191-00; Tue, 06 Apr 2004 21:21:14 -0700 Received: from dragon.kitenet.net (216-98-94-107.access.naxs.com [216.98.94.107]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN Joey Hess, Issuer Joey Hess (verified OK)) by kitenet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A8417F66; Wed, 7 Apr 2004 04:20:51 + (GMT) Received: by dragon.kitenet.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DFA976ECB8; Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:16:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:16:28 -0400 From: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: fixed Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=application/pgp-signature; boundary=liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: X-CrossAssassin-Scores: 2 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The lack of a cdrom entry in fstab is a known bug in beta 3. It has since been fixed in the daily builds. --=20 see shy jo --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAc4Cbd8HHehbQuO8RAlzEAJ9DlaH0+/2Fln0IlH3hwrUhbLL0EQCfXWH5 FMc/aMq2J/ZzHXOA1iJ8khU= =QtPf -END PGP SIGNATURE- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#239428: marked as done (no cdrom entry in the generated fstab)
Your message dated Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:16:28 -0400 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line fixed has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 21 Mar 2004 22:11:58 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar 21 14:11:58 2004 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rocket.mazin.net [64.246.16.16] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1B5BAj-UE-00; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:11:57 -0800 Received: from orbdesigns.com (pcp702102pcs.bowie01.md.comcast.net [68.50.76.69]) by rocket.mazin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550802641C2 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:12:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:11:29 -0500 From: Brian Bilbrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Orb Designs User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040320) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Package: installation-reports X-Enigmail-Version: 0.83.3.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_12 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_12 X-Spam-Level: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: installation-reports Debian-installer-version: beta 3 of the Debian-Installer from http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta3/sarge-i386-netinst.iso uname -a: Linux vmdeb 2.4.25 #1 Sun Mar 21 10:27:58 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux Date: 2004.03.21 ~1300EST Method: CD Install for base, 'net thereafter. Machine: VMware 4.5.1 running on a dual Athlon MP 1900 system. Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) MP 1900+ Memory: MemTotal: 255696 kB Root Device: SCSI (faux VMware Buslogic) Root Size/partition table: 3 devices configured ~ /dev/sda: ~NameFlags Part Type FS Type [Label]Size (MB) - - ~sda1 Primary Linux ext2 131.61 ~sda2 Primary Linux swap 509.97 ~sda3 Primary Linux ReiserFS3652.03 ~ /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc configured in a single volume group, partitioned to an LV. Here's current df output: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 3566284 1508344 2057940 43% / /dev/sda1 120411 7144106843 7% /boot /dev/Storage_VG/Store 3997568 32840 3964728 1% /mnt/storage tmpfs 127848 0127848 0% /dev/shm Output of lspci: vmdeb:~# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 01) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 01) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 08) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 08) 00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: VMWare Inc: Unknown device 0405 00:10.0 SCSI storage controller: BusLogic BT-946C (BA80C30) [MultiMaster 10] (rev 01) 00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 10) 00:12.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 02) Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked:[O] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems:[O] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system:[O] Install boot loader:[O] Reboot: [O] [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Comments/Problems: First, kudos! Much better than previous installer betas. There was one issue, and I of course have an opinion or two. First, the issue: There was no cdrom entry in fstab when install was complete. Easy fix, but momentarily confusing. Opinions: 1. There are three visible Hardware Detection phases. I don't understand why, and to the uneducated eye, it looks like a problem. If they are doing different things,
Re: Location list proposal [was: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?]
Hong Kong uses zh_HK and so forth. --- Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Country/Region/Area is simply the Wrong Category,especially considering that Hong Kong uses Traditional Chinese and so forth. Unfortunately, the lang_COUNTRY locale system is too entrenched at this point. :-P _ Linux.Net --Open Source to everyone Powered by Linare Corporation http://www.linare.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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install help: boot floopies + sarge-i386-netinst.iso (d-i beta3)
Hello, first sorry for my english I´m trying to improve it :) I´m trying to install debian sarge with boot floppies and sarge-i386-netinst.iso (d-i beta3) mounted as a loop device in the ramdisk. I put the sarge-i386-netinst.iso in a ext2 partition /dev/hda6 (/home) then boot with the boot floppies (boot.img and root.img), then I use the cd-drivers floppy and mount the sarge-i386-netinst.iso in /sarge_cd as a loop device. Now I want to tell to d-i that go with the instalation from there (/sarge_cd) but I don´t know how to do that. Can someone give me some help? thankyou in advance. AR -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing the wording of countrychooser main question
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 08:55:39AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Dan Jacobson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Choose a country, territory or area: How about just one of Choose a territory: or Choose an area: or Choose a region:? No, because about 30 translators already translated the above which was changed several days ago...:-) And also, because there will certainly be argument that THIS is not a terriritory or THAT is not a region of THIS AGAIN is not an area. What about a : Where are you kind of neutral question ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Technically: What is the point to identity to country/province, anyway?
On 7 Apr 2004, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote: I still have no clue on why country/province information is technically needed. Sure, language is needed, and so does time zone, keyboard, etc. But for what is country? I have no idea why debian wnats us to choose a country during installation? P.S. How about to add Sovereign Republic of Rahmat Samik-Ibrahim, a 120 sqm (ca 1200 sqft) country somewhere in South East Asia :)? I think just remove the country chooser from Debian and use language chooser instead will be much better for a long run. [ Taiwan Linux Users Group ] Andrew Lee ()http://wiki.debian.org.tw Winkler Partners http://www.winklerpartners.com My [EMAIL PROTECTED]: +886 2 2311 2345cell: +886 968749 055 Wild at Heart Legal Defense Association http://ecosophy.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: partman (was Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive)
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 02:06:50PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 10:46:05PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: We do have a beta3 branch in the repo, but it's acting more like a tag, I guess, no changes have been made to it. I tried the new partman, and it works great. Wow, that's a lot of work! My only quibble is with the use of the term Wizard, as in Use the Wizard to partition. I don't think wizard is a proper noun, so should not be capitalised, and I don't see how this is better than the old Automatically partition. It assumes that the user is familiar with windows wizard-type things (and doesn't hate them ;-), and seems overly cute to me. Just my $0.05 worth... On a system that I've already got an operating system installed on, that I really, really would prefer not to hose, I'm going to fear and distrust anything that uses the words Automatic and Partition together, and choose some other option that implies I have more control over whether or not I accidentally hose the partition that has my other OS on it... Particularly if I'm not confident before selecting the item that it isn't going to go off on it's merry way and do something unrevertable before I get a chance to go hang on!. I suspect users new to Linux/Debian but familiar with PCs in general are going to take this line of reasoning. I know of people who simply aborted the whole installation process when faced with partman, even if there was this manual partitioning option. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?
Miles Bader wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 05:42:00PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Furthermore, doesn't Hong Kong use Traditional Chinese? In this case, the issue of writing style is rather independent of the status of Taiwan. Yup. I wonder whether there's any pressure on them these days to change, since ... you know. [Interestingly I've heard that they're still used reasonably often on the mainland, for things like signs c.] Probably not. The two main dialects are Mandarin and Cantonese. After the revolution, there was a move to supplant the original northern Mandarin with Pinyin, the new, improved, culturally approved version, but it didn't make much in the way of inroads after the original fashionable period was over. Most northerners still speak the original Mandarin. But it doesn't stop there. After the Han, which is the group that make up approx. 46% of the population, you have about 52 different minority groups, all with their own separate dialect, if not language. Most of my Chinese friends speak about five different dialects each. Then, you have another level, of strange intermixtures like a settlement of Moslems left over from the Turkoman Empire, and even a settlement of Chinese Jews. All of this must have some reflection in the pictorially-based characters that make up the writing that formed the basis for the Japanese structures as well. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer: how much memory is needed (on other archs than i386) ?
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 08:16:54AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, from the beta2 announcement: Support for systems with only 32 MB of memory (i386 only). anybody ot an idea what the requirements for other archs (e.g. powerpc) are ? I guess they should be roughly the same ? About 25 MB for mips. Thanks. Is it hopeless to try an install with 16mb on ppc ? (I could _test_ it, I don't have to do it ;) What machine is that ? We could always try for a specially targeted initrd for this kind of machines, one more should be no problem, and since most of our package add support for almost all powerpc hardware, there may be lot of space to gain. If you provide more info on the hardware, i would be willing to give this a test. Is this acceptable to you ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partman (was Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive)
On a system that I've already got an operating system installed on, that I really, really would prefer not to hose, I'm going to fear and distrust anything that uses the words Automatic and Partition together, and choose some other option that implies I have more control over whether or not I accidentally hose the partition that has my other OS on it... I echo the same sentiment. In my Hungarian translation of the wizard strings, I used something like partitioning helped by the Wizard or partitioning guided by the Wizard. While still implying some help from the computer, as in guided tour, for me the term guided partitioning means much more control on the part of the user than automatic partitioning. Just a thought. Cheers, Istvan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?
* Miles Bader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040407 03:25]: Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These names are[3] those chosen by the respective countries -- _that_ is something I thing ought to be respected (so if Taiwan were to suddenly start calling itself [in English] `Province of China Taiwan', well then the argument is over I guess :-). Well, but we even don't name other countries like they call themself - but rather they are normally called within that country. (Well, at least I hope that we don't have Federal Republic of Germany in the installer list ;) I suppose it's more accurate to say that the names used for most countries are those that are at least _acceptable_ by the country's people. [Actually given the comma-prefix notation, it would be quite reasonable to use Germany, Federal Republic of -- indeed it fits well -- but I'd guess most germans probably don't care a great deal one way or another.] I'm a german and I prefer definitly Germany. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request for review of partman-newworld
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 03:32, Colin Watson wrote: I've checked in partman-newworld, which wraps up the method for creating the special Apple_Bootstrap partition you need to boot newworld PowerMac systems. I've tested it somewhat, although not exactly with a straight-through install or all error cases because I'm not in a position to trash my current disk. As such, I haven't uploaded it to unstable yet. This was my first exposure to partman's internals, so I'd appreciate it if a partman expert (Anton?) could look it over for any glaring errors. Aside from the technicals, I strongly believe that a note/help text should be given to the users as to *what* exactly is a NewWorld boot partition, and a NewWorld powermac in general. I know quite a few mac users that would just stare at the screen at this point... Something along the lines: With regard to their low-level handling of the boot process, PowerMacs have been split into two categories, OldWorld and NewWorld. OldWorld are Macs or Mac-clones that used programs such as quik to boot Linux from their OpenFirmware (OF), with limited capabilities in that. The last OldWorld Mac series was the Beige G3. NewWorld Macs however, starting from the Blue White G3, have had some significant changes to their OF, offering more flexibility but requiring new tools for booting. The new tools are namely yaboot and miboot. Just a suggestion, I probably forgot something but I declare this text as GPL so feel free to add/modify... Konstantinos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer: how much memory is needed (on other archs than i386) ?
Hi, Is it hopeless to try an install with 16mb on ppc ? (I could _test_ it, I don't have to do it ;) What machine is that ? We could always try for a specially targeted initrd for this kind of machines, one more should be no problem, and since most of our package add support for almost all powerpc hardware, there may be lot of space to gain. If you provide more info on the hardware, i would be willing to give this a test. Is this acceptable to you ? Yes, I'm willing to test anything on ppc I can test. But right now I've only got an two old 4400/200s and an ibook. If got three 16mb ram modules for the 4400s so first I'll test 32mb and then I'll test 16mb. (Right now one has 48mb and the other zero.) Right now I'm testing doing an install on a 120GB harddiscs on one big partition. To my surprise yesterday quik managed to install on that disc on a 7gb / (root) partition, so I somehow expect quik to boot from a 120GB / (root) partition as well. As soon as I know, I'll post the results here. As my next step I will checkout the d-i sources and have a look a yaboot-installer to see if I can use it as a starting point for a quik-installer. But don't expect that to happen before friday... reagards, Holger Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?
Katipo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But it doesn't stop there. After the Han,
which is the group that make up approx. 46% of the population,
Han makes up 92% of the population, not 46%.
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Re: Request for review of partman-newworld
[No need to send me a private copy, thanks; I read debian-boot.] On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 12:11:27PM +0300, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: On Wednesday 07 April 2004 03:32, Colin Watson wrote: I've checked in partman-newworld, which wraps up the method for creating the special Apple_Bootstrap partition you need to boot newworld PowerMac systems. I've tested it somewhat, although not exactly with a straight-through install or all error cases because I'm not in a position to trash my current disk. As such, I haven't uploaded it to unstable yet. This was my first exposure to partman's internals, so I'd appreciate it if a partman expert (Anton?) could look it over for any glaring errors. Aside from the technicals, I strongly believe that a note/help text should be given to the users as to *what* exactly is a NewWorld boot partition, and a NewWorld powermac in general. I know quite a few mac users that would just stare at the screen at this point... This seems like a good idea; but where? I don't think it's a good idea to force an extra note unconditionally, and I can't see any hooks for displaying help text. We could document it (we should do that anyway, of course), or see if there's some way to squeeze it into partman-auto. I haven't figured out how autopartitioning should work yet. Something along the lines: With regard to their low-level handling of the boot process, PowerMacs have been split into two categories, OldWorld and NewWorld. OldWorld are Macs or Mac-clones that used programs such as quik to boot Linux from their OpenFirmware (OF), with limited capabilities in that. The last OldWorld Mac series was the Beige G3. NewWorld Macs however, starting from the Blue White G3, have had some significant changes to their OF, offering more flexibility but requiring new tools for booting. The new tools are namely yaboot and miboot. As far as I know, miboot is for OldWorlds. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer: how much memory is needed (on other archs than i386) ?
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 11:10:54AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, Is it hopeless to try an install with 16mb on ppc ? (I could _test_ it, I don't have to do it ;) What machine is that ? We could always try for a specially targeted initrd for this kind of machines, one more should be no problem, and since most of our package add support for almost all powerpc hardware, there may be lot of space to gain. If you provide more info on the hardware, i would be willing to give this a test. Is this acceptable to you ? Yes, I'm willing to test anything on ppc I can test. But right now I've only got an two old 4400/200s and an ibook. If got three 16mb ram modules for the 4400s so first I'll test 32mb and then I'll test 16mb. (Right now one has 48mb and the other zero.) Cool. It will probably not work out of the box though. Right now I'm testing doing an install on a 120GB harddiscs on one big partition. To my surprise yesterday quik managed to install on that disc on a 7gb / (root) partition, so I somehow expect quik to boot from a 120GB / (root) partition as well. As soon as I know, I'll post the results here. As my next step I will checkout the d-i sources and have a look a yaboot-installer to see if I can use it as a starting point for a quik-installer. But don't expect that to happen before friday... Cool. If any special partitioning is needed, maybe we could also make a partman-quik or something such .udeb. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request for review of partman-newworld
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 12:26, Colin Watson wrote: This seems like a good idea; but where? I don't think it's a good idea to force an extra note unconditionally, and I can't see any hooks for displaying help text. Well, imho, the technical knowledge level of the average mac user is far below that of the average hppa or alpha user. While the average hppa/alpha user might know everything about their boot loader (palo/silo), the mac user will probably have only some MacOS 8/9 or X experience. Even for X users, I doubt that they will -in general- know about such stuff. So I don't think it's really that bad offering a help text about what a NewWorld boot partition is anyway. We could document it (we should do that anyway, of course), or see if there's some way to squeeze it into partman-auto. I haven't figured out how autopartitioning should work yet. no idea... As far as I know, miboot is for OldWorlds. ehm, yes you're right, my bad :-) Konstantinos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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hi folks, im still want to get my sparcs booted with a sarge netboot.img. does someone know how to look into such a boot.img ? how to lookpback mount, which fs if any. or if kernel+ramdisk.tgz where to find the offset ? has anyone a clou on who did the netboot image for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? has anyone a hint on how to create such a netbootimage for sparc ? is the a source available for the netboot images for sparc ? thanks gerald -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing the wording of countrychooser main question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-04-07 09:26, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 08:55:39AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Dan Jacobson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Choose a country, territory or area: How about just one of Choose a territory: or Choose an area: or Choose a region:? No, because about 30 translators already translated the above which was changed several days ago...:-) And also, because there will certainly be argument that THIS is not a terriritory or THAT is not a region of THIS AGAIN is not an area. What about a : Where are you kind of neutral question ? second that, in fact the Dutch translation currently uses (the Dutch equivalent of): Where is this system located (territory, area, or region)? Im thinking of dropping the (...) part - -- Cheers, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) 1. Encrypted mail preferred (GPG KeyID: 0x86624ABB) 2. Plain-text mail recommended since I move html and double format mails to a low priority folder (they're mainly spam) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAc9UY5ihPJ4ZiSrsRAvX5AJ9LaJ4YYPmBxQLT37QkD1Sc4eTBrwCdFJVr u8MRkZMc1NILrS37+YxPUeU= =mpx0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Bug#242511: Install report beta3 i386 wireless
* Alexander Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040407 05:18]: http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/20040406/sarge-i386-netinst.iso didn't booted on my notebook http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/20040405/sarge-i386-netinst.iso didn't booted on my notebook Well, a strange combination of hardware and blank cd incomatibility, or at least I think so. Sorry for bothering you with that. Yours sincerely, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242547: syslinux: Boot failed: please change disks
Package: syslinux Version: 2.04-1 Severity: normal Well, I was about to test d-i today (20040403 images in subdir floppy/acces), and can't even get the kernel fully loaded: SYSLINUX prompts for boot options, starts to load the kernel (dots appear), and suddenly stops with the following message: Boot failed: please change disks and press a key to continue When I hit some key, the boot begins again, prompting me for kernel options, and hangs at the same position again. I've tried a lot of things already to make sure I am not seeing a damaged hardware problem: * Tried with 6 different floppy disks now, even from two different packs. * Physically swapped my floppy disk drive to make sure it didn't break recently. Unfortunately, absolutely the same effect happens with the new floppy ddrive. The message itself isn't terribly informative, and I'm afraid I reached a point where I don't know what to try anymore. I am not particularily good at asm, so reading ldlinux.asm didn't help me much either. The machine is Intel Pentium III based with 866 MHZ (so, it's not brand new, but not terribly old either.) -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.4.24-speakup Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C Versions of packages syslinux depends on: ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-11 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an -- no debconf information -- CYa, Mario | Debian Developer URL:http://debian.org/ | Get my public key via finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 1024D/7FC1A0854909BCCDBE6C102DDFFC022A6B113E44 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#242511: Install report beta3 i386 wireless
* Alexander Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040407 05:18]: http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/20040406/sarge-i386-netinst.iso didn't booted on my notebook http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/20040405/sarge-i386-netinst.iso didn't booted on my notebook Well, a strange combination of hardware and blank cd incomatibility, or at least I think so. Sorry for bothering you with that. Yours sincerely, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partman (was Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive)
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 06:06, Andrew Pollock wrote: On a system that I've already got an operating system installed on, that I really, really would prefer not to hose, I'm going to fear and distrust anything that uses the words Automatic and Partition together, and choose some other option that implies I have more control over whether or not I accidentally hose the partition that has my other OS on it... I agree. 'Automatic' gives too much uncertainty about what's going to happen to existing partitions. I don't like the term 'Wizard' either because I think MS has gotten worse and worse by using wizards that contain endless dialogs and take away control from more experienced users for even the most basic tasks. I don't consider PartMan to be a Wizard; it's just an excellent front-end to everything to to with partitioning, formatting and mount point selection. Why not just use 'advanced partition management'? 2 more cents... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fw: Request for review of partman-newworld
Hello Rick, Are you still planning to work on the manual for Macs? If so, could you take a look at the text below, it looks like a very useful text to be included in the Mac-versions of the manual. I think the text needs a little bit of polish (especially the use of 'namely' in the last sentence). Cheers, Frans On Wednesday 07 April 2004 11:11, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: Aside from the technicals, I strongly believe that a note/help text should be given to the users as to *what* exactly is a NewWorld boot partition, and a NewWorld powermac in general. I know quite a few mac users that would just stare at the screen at this point... Something along the lines: With regard to their low-level handling of the boot process, PowerMacs have been split into two categories, OldWorld and NewWorld. OldWorld are Macs or Mac-clones that used programs such as quik to boot Linux from their OpenFirmware (OF), with limited capabilities in that. The last OldWorld Mac series was the Beige G3. NewWorld Macs however, starting from the Blue White G3, have had some significant changes to their OF, offering more flexibility but requiring new tools for booting. The new tools are namely yaboot and miboot. Just a suggestion, I probably forgot something but I declare this text as GPL so feel free to add/modify... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?
(crosspost removed) Which is no doubt why the Germans, being reasonable people, are willing to have their nation labeled Germany. So, people promoting this proposal just volunteered in building an iso-codes-alternative package and interview representative people, or organising polls in all 240 countries/areas/blah mentioned in iso-3166, asking people how their country should be namedin english. Just irony, of course...I guess everyone sees how impossible this is...and why choosing a standard is the only way to go.and try to find a compromise for sensitive issues. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosingcountry?
Quoting Tetralet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Was Microsoft Windows XP banned by the China government? Well, some rumours mention that, yes indeed...but not for that reason..:-) Again and again, I understand your concerns but using Microsoft as an example of what should be done when it comes to deal with standards is probably not the best way to show your point. We probably all around agree that the standard is bad. We just disagree on the way to handle this... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?
Quoting Tetralet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): As long as this iso-3166 translation in zh_TW is incomplete, you will be presented with the English name list... which you don't like, when choosing zh_TW. So, go ahead and finish the zh_TW translation of iso_3166. I'm very willing to do it. Well, as you may have read, this won't stop the problem as the short list is still untanslated. We need one good perl/shell/whatever wizard who finds a solution for translating the built-on-the-fly short list For sure, people using English will still see the name you don't like. Some, probably of Chinese (or probably Taiwanese) origin, will probably even complain about this. We will point them to http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/10faq/frequently-asked-questions.html#QS03. That's the problem. Maybe we are too self-will, But some of us still think that it is not acceptable. Well, I'm unfortunately pretty sure that whatever solution we find to this, some people will still think this is not acceptable as long as the solution does not implement their own solution. For those people who think that this wil remain unacceptable and insist on replacing the current name, I will politely ask them to also propose a new names for FYROM, Palestinian territory, occupied, Lybian Arab Jimahiriya.of course, the solution has to be accepted by all involved parties The National Geographic Atlas has unfortunately less legitimity than ISO in my eyes for defining international standards. NGA is a USA organisation with, from my point of view, a quite oriented way of approaching things (should I mention the censorship stories which happened in their publications). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Technically: What is the point to identity to country/province, anyway?
Quoting Andrew Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have no idea why debian wnats us to choose a country during installation? Sorry to say and write this, but where were you when this was discussed *months* ago? Steve Langasek pretty well explained why the country choice emerged : because this gives a good guess about several other answers in the installer. So, I won't argue again about this because I know this saves a lot of user interaction screens during Debian installation. (and there is still log of work to do for using this choice as a default for some other settings in several packages) Initially, a sort of country choosing system was in languagechooser...and, indeed, it is still there for the most common countries when some languages have several countries where they are officially spoken. However, as we kept adding languages to d-i, it became evident that we couldn't add more and more entries to the languagechooser screen (imagine how many entry we would need for Spanish.just look at /usr/share/locale/SUPPORTED some day) Why the hell would we then have some countries having the chance of being mentioned and some others not? Yes, this was a politically correct choice, also. And, yes, this lead to the current taiwanese issue we're trying to solve. But, please, don't ask the d-i team to drop design choice who were made in public discussions and opened group. This is definitely too late. And certainly not because we currently have an issue with one country. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sugested string change in s390/netdevice
Quoting Eddy Petrisor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): This parameter is required when you want to share a card or for cards with microcode level 2.10 or later. What bothers me is the or or sequence...Moreover, if left on the current form, the Romaian translation sounds bad, also, while the inversed version doesn't. I know we are in a string freeze, but can you change this? We aren't in a string freeze. So, I guess a 's/or/and' on the last or occurrence is possible. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Location list proposal [was: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?]
Quoting Dave Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hong Kong uses zh_HK and so forth. And, yes, HK users can choose Traditional Chinese at first d-i screen and then Hong-Kong at the second screen they will be presented with. Tetralet (please, some day, mention your real name if possible), one idea comes to my mind, as a compromise when writing this answer: What about adding a line in language chooser saying: Choose this to proceed in Traditional Chinese (Taiwan) That one would immediately set zh_TWand the problematic screen will never be shown. We could even do better: zh_CN: Choose this to proceed in Simplified Chinese (China) zh : Choose this to proceed in Simplified Chinese (other countries) zh_TW: Choose this to proceed in Traditional Chinese (Taiwan) zh_HK: Choose this to procees in Traditional Chinese (Hong-Kong) (all these in Chinese, of course) zh_HK would then give zh_HK:zh_TW:zh:en_GB:en as language list which means that HK users would then get the zh_TW translations, that is Traditional Chinese. As you can see, the controversial Taiwan mention there is under control of the Traditional Chinese translatorwho can put whatever he will think appropriate there(anyways, province of China would be technically impossible probably because of length constraints) With this solution, we basically hide the problematic mention of iso-3166 to nearly all users choosing the Chinese language. We don't hide the problem under the rug. We just address it in a way who satisfies the majority of users and, I hope so, both parties As a side effect, we save most Chinese users one screen by just adding two lines to languagechooser. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partman (was Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive)
Quoting VEROK Istvan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I echo the same sentiment. In my Hungarian translation of the wizard strings, I used something like partitioning helped by the Wizard or partitioning guided by the Wizard. The french translation uses the commonly accepted word of Assistant which is even used by the other operating systems where you have tons of wizards...-) As Assistant mostly means assist the user to do somehting, I think that's more easily accepted and less frightening -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing the wording of countrychooser main question
Quoting Bart Cornelis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): What about a : Where are you kind of neutral question ? second that, in fact the Dutch translation currently uses (the Dutch equivalent of): Where is this system located (territory, area, or region)? Im thinking of dropping the (...) part I do no second that, at least for the english part. Such prompting for choices, or string (the debconf types Select, Mutiselect and String) should avoid using questions. Commonly accepted guidelines for user interfaces and user input recommend to use open prompts for this... So, the correct formulation with your proposal is: Location of your system: ...which is by the way too vague, as entities mentioned in the ISO-3166 list are not locations but countries, areas or territories And we comme back to the current formulation...:-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#241817: install: does not create yaboot partition
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 01:17:18AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 10:20:41AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 01:20:17PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Sven Luther wrote: The idea is that some hardware configurations needs some particular partitions to be there (like a prep boot partition or a palo boot partition, or the yaboot boot partition on pmac), or even some filesystem to be used for the /boot partition (like affs on pegasos 1). Notice that there already exists a partman-palo package to do this for hppa. You just need to make some kind of partman-yaboot, I suppose. Ok. Is it advisable to create a partman-yaboot, partman-prep, partman-pegasos package, or a single partman-powerpc which will hold all the above subarches ? I'd say it's best to separate them. The Apple_Bootstrap partition code you need for yaboot on powerpc is quite different from other powerpc subarches, even (judging from the yaboot-howto) other yaboot-using subarches. What code are you refering to here ? It is just a plain partition with a type and a name. Can probably be done with 3 or 4 libparted invocations. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242557: languagechooser: Dutch entry in languagelist is too long for other countries
Package: languagechooser Severity: normal Tags: l10n The current languagechooser entry for Dutch language and other countries is a bit too long and is currently cut down in the first d-i screen: Dutch (other): Kies dit om in het Nederlands verder te gaan (Overige landen) Is cut down to: Kies dit om in het Nederlands verder te gaan (Overige lan There shouldn't be more than 54 columns (for es, this means 54 characters) -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (400, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.4 Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (ignored: LC_ALL set to fr_FR.UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242474: discover1: Initial Hungarian translation of Debian-specific bits
tags 242474 pending thanks Quoting VEROK Istvan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Package: discover1 Severity: wishlist Tags: l10n, patch Translation of 11 strings into Hungarian (all concerning the automatic handling by discover of CD-ROM symlinks and mount points). Commited -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242555: Slovenian entry in languagechooser.l10n is too long
Package: languagechooser Severity: normal Tags: l10n The current languagechooser entry for Slovenian language in a bit too long and is currently cut down in the first d-i screen: Slovenian: Izberite to monost za nadaljevanje v slovenini (Slovenija) Is cut down to: Izberite to monost za nadaljevanje v slovenini (Slo (UTF-8 chars may have suffered from copy/paste, sorry) There shouldn't be more than 54 columns (for sl, this means 54 characters) -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (400, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.4 Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (ignored: LC_ALL set to fr_FR.UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242556: Spanish entry in languagechooser screen too long for other countries
Package: languagechooser Severity: normal Tags: l10n The current languagechooser entry for Spanish language and other countries is a bit too long and is currently cut down in the first d-i screen: Spanish (other): Elija esta opcin para continuar en espaol (otros pases) Is cut down to: Elija esta opcin para continuar en espaol (otros pa There shouldn't be more than 54 columns (for es, this means 54 characters) -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (400, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.4 Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (ignored: LC_ALL set to fr_FR.UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242561: Installation report: Nearly Newbie installs debian quite sucessfull, some observations
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/20040406/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso uname -a: Linux kerkyon 2.4.25-1-686 #1 Tue Feb 24 10:55:59 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux Date: Wed Apr 7 13:09:53 CEST 2004 Method: How did you install? Network install, static IP, german locales What did you boot off? IDE-CDROM If network install, from where? ftp.de.debian.org Proxied? No. Machine: A nearly selfbuild machines from rests laying around Processor: Pentium II (Deschutes) 450 MHz Memory: 256 M Root Device: IBM DDRS-34560W scsi drive, connected to an aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A Root Size/partition table: /dev/sda1 * 1 486 3903763+ 83 Linux /dev/sda2 487 555 554242+ 82 Linux swap /dev/sdb1 1 91 730926 82 Linux swap /dev/sdb2 92 555 3727080 83 Linux sda1: / sdb2: /home Output of lspci and lspci -n: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 02) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) 00:08.0 Multimedia video controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 2 (rev 02) 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c900B-Combo [Etherlink XL Combo] (rev 04) 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI] (rev 01) 00:0c.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7880U (rev 01) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200 AGP (rev 01) Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot worked:[O] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems:[O] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system:[O] Install boot loader:[O] Reboot: [O] Comments/Problems: The installation was done by an not so well know test person, this is a list of my observations: - While entering IP-Numbers, it would be useful to have the keypad comma use as a colon, not comma (even if you select german keyboard layout) - This computer has two disc drives, the automatic partitioner only used one; having 1GB for /root and 2 for /home was in this case a bad choice. - while doing a manual partitioning we couldn't determine, what the symbols between the size of the partition and the filesystem mean (what does that strawbery with legs mean?) - The testperson was a little bit confused, when he saw something like choosing kernel image to install for a few seconds, and then without any choice (just after one second) the installer continued with the installation of a kernel - while beeing at that point: The test person was confused about the abbrechen (cancel) button, he was looking for a zurueck (back) button - while creating a new user, the thought, that his entry would replace the realname Debian User and login debian, he disliked to backspace everything. - using tasksel, he got a little bit confused about the navigation with the arrow keys, but he finaly got it (allthough he thought he would need to install the x-task to get the desktop task with kde running) - I wonder why the would you like to participate question of popularity contest is on a seperate page. The testperson didn't read the long explanation to the end, pressed okay, and then had that yes/no question, without really knowing what to answer. There wasn't even a back button, so he could get back, reread the text, and then answer correctly - it would be useful, to display, what hardware has been detected - finally I wonder, why the line for /dev/fd0 was commented out in the created fstab -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#239552: kernel-image-2.4.25-1-386: incompatibility with the cciss module ?
Is this one fixed with the latest libdebian-installer(0.21) unstable? -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen! Axel Mueller ++ Axel Müller ITC - Services T-Systems GEI GmbH Service Line Systems Integration Goslarer Ufer 35, 10589 Berlin, Germany Telefon: +49 30 3497-1859 FAX: +49 30 3497-1177 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.t-systems.com T-Systems ist eine Division der Deutschen Telekom ++ The only problem with mornings is that they happen too early in the day
Re: Re: Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?
Well, I'm unfortunately pretty sure that whatever solution we find to
this, some people will still think this is not acceptable as long as
the solution does not implement their own solution.
I'd think so.
Is this passible iso-codes package offer a short name for the country code?
I mean, the name of TW is Taiwan, Province of China,
But the short name of TW is Taiwan.
In Debian-Installer, it always shows the short name.
And what the short name should be depends on each translator's preference.
And, How about the icu-data package?
(Please vist http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/debian-boot-200404/msg00520.html)
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[deb-installer] Failure at boot loader phase
Package: installation-reports Debian-installer-version: Beta 3 20040315 uname -a: not on system now Date: 20040406 Method: CD burned from 100 MB CD image from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ Machine: Shuttle XPC SB75G2 v2 - Shuttle FB75 mainboard - Intel 875P/ICH5-R chipset - tg3 built-in network - Sony DRU-500A IDE DVD Burner Processor: Intel Pentium 4 HyperThreading - 3 GHz - 512 KB cache - 800 MHz FSB - northwood core Memory: 1 GB Dual channel ddr 400 - 2x OCZ 512 MB low latency modules Root Device: S-ATA - 200 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM 9 mb cache Root Size/partition table: not on system now hda1 - 170 GB NTFS - Windows XP hda2 - 30 MB ext3 - /boot hda6 - rest XFS - / hda3 - 512 MB - swap Output of lspci: not on system now Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked:[O] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems:[O] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system:[O] Install boot loader:[E] Reboot: [E] [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Comments/Problems: Grub hanged during install on (0,1), but system not frozen (other consoles working). i restarted the install process. lilo access difficult because expert mode expects things to be done in order (Grub first...). I though i managed to get it (apparently it has to use devfs nomenclature, which i'm not familiar with), bot nothing in place, not even a lilo.conf. reboot and mount/chroot under knoppix proved there was no lilo, tried to use lilo's simple example conf file, changed compact to lba32, used hda2 as boot and hda6 as root, boot sector on hda2. used bootpart (as disk's main bootloader), but failed. apparently lba48 support is needed in order to boot a partition further than ~120 gb, maybe neither bootpart nor lilo know how to do that. Other than that boot loader issue, which may be me of my own doing (partitions too far away in the disk), the installer looks very close to be ready. Would that qualify as a bug and should i submit it to the appropriate email address, or is it me trying to do something stupid ? Any suggestion ? Nico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Processing of partman-newworld_1_powerpc.changes
partman-newworld_1_powerpc.changes uploaded successfully to localhost along with the files: partman-newworld_1.dsc partman-newworld_1.tar.gz partman-newworld_1_powerpc.udeb Greetings, Your Debian queue daemon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
partman-newworld_1_powerpc.changes is NEW
(new) partman-newworld_1.dsc optional debian-installer (new) partman-newworld_1.tar.gz optional debian-installer (new) partman-newworld_1_powerpc.udeb optional debian-installer partman support for new-world PowerMac boot partitions This package provides the 'newworld' partition use method. The yaboot boot loader used on PCI-era PowerMac systems requires a special Apple_Bootstrap partition, created by this method. Changes: partman-newworld (1) unstable; urgency=low . * Colin Watson - New package, implementing boot partitions for new-world PowerMacs. Based loosely on partman-palo. - Uploading at optional priority for now, pending more testing. * Joshua Kwan - Use debhelper's new udeb support. * Updated translations: - Greek (el.po) by Konstantinos Margaritis - Basque (eu.po) by Piarres Beobide Egaña - French (fr.po) by Christian Perrier - Hebrew (he.po) by Lior Kaplan - Hungarian (hu.po) by VERÓK István - Japanese (ja.po) by Kenshi Muto - Slovak (sk.po) by Peter KLFMANiK Mann Announcing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your package contains new components which requires manual editing of the override file. It is ok otherwise, so please be patient. New packages are usually added to the override file about once a week. You may have gotten the distribution wrong. You'll get warnings above if files already exist in other distributions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
linux-kernel-di-powerpc_0.57_powerpc.changes ACCEPTED
Accepted: affs-modules-2.4.25-power3-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/affs-modules-2.4.25-power3-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb affs-modules-2.4.25-power4-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/affs-modules-2.4.25-power4-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb affs-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/affs-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb affs-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/affs-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb brltty-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/brltty-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb cdrom-core-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/cdrom-core-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb ext3-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/ext3-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb fat-modules-2.4.25-power3-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/fat-modules-2.4.25-power3-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb fat-modules-2.4.25-power4-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/fat-modules-2.4.25-power4-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb fb-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/fb-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb firewire-core-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/firewire-core-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb floppy-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/floppy-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb hfs-modules-2.4.25-power3-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/hfs-modules-2.4.25-power3-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb hfs-modules-2.4.25-power4-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/hfs-modules-2.4.25-power4-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb hfs-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/hfs-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb hfs-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/hfs-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb ide-modules-2.4.25-apus-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/ide-modules-2.4.25-apus-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb ide-modules-2.4.25-power3-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/ide-modules-2.4.25-power3-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb ide-modules-2.4.25-power4-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/ide-modules-2.4.25-power4-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb ide-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/ide-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb ide-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/ide-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb input-modules-2.4.25-apus-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/input-modules-2.4.25-apus-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb input-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/input-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb ipv6-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/ipv6-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb irda-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/irda-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb isa-pnp-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/isa-pnp-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb jfs-modules-2.4.25-apus-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/jfs-modules-2.4.25-apus-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb jfs-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/jfs-modules-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb kernel-image-2.4.25-apus-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/kernel-image-2.4.25-apus-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb kernel-image-2.4.25-power3-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/kernel-image-2.4.25-power3-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb kernel-image-2.4.25-power4-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/kernel-image-2.4.25-power4-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb kernel-image-2.4.25-powerpc-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/kernel-image-2.4.25-powerpc-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb kernel-image-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/kernel-image-2.4.25-powerpc-small-di_0.57_powerpc.udeb linux-kernel-di-powerpc_0.57.dsc to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/linux-kernel-di-powerpc_0.57.dsc linux-kernel-di-powerpc_0.57.tar.gz to pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-powerpc/linux-kernel-di-powerpc_0.57.tar.gz
RE: who is the maintainer of the sparc netboot.img
allready found the installer at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/svn. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Location list proposal [was: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?]
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 01:42:17PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Dave Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hong Kong uses zh_HK and so forth. And, yes, HK users can choose Traditional Chinese at first d-i screen and then Hong-Kong at the second screen they will be presented with. Tetralet (please, some day, mention your real name if possible), one idea comes to my mind, as a compromise when writing this answer: What about adding a line in language chooser saying: Choose this to proceed in Traditional Chinese (Taiwan) That one would immediately set zh_TWand the problematic screen will never be shown. Please, we should be moving away from including countries at all on the language chooser screen. I think the current mix of languages and languages+countries on the first screen is very distracting already, and wastes space in the menu. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer signature.asc Description: Digital signature
sparc64 sarge-sparc-netinst.iso beta 3
I've tried both the debian installer and the version that comes on the latest sarge iso (I think they are identical as far as the installer is concerned). Both fail to boot unless I say: root=0100 Both then fail to find sr_mod.o and therefore can't mount the cdrom. I guess either the module needs to be compiled into the kernel, or the module needs to be supplied, or it is supplied and I can't find it. Any suggestions? NetBoot apparently works according to the web page so I'll try that when I am in a position to download it. The machine is a Sun 'Ultra Enterprise 450'. James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#232085: Please retest
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 10:21:38PM +, Alastair McKinstry wrote: I can't reproduce this (don't have the hardware) and can't see why this might happen. Can you please retest? Since console-data performs a similar function, I thought I'd compare what I see between the two. From the console-data/keymap/policy dialog, I choose Select keymap from arch list. I then get the console-data/keymap/template/layout dialog, from which I choose US. This brings me to the console-data/keymap/template/keymap dialog, from which I choose Extended. kbd-chooser presents me with one dialog when priority is low, console-tools/archs. This currently lets me choose between Mac keyboards and AT keyboards. Once I choose Mac keyboards it goes its merry way. keybd-chooser selects mac-us-ext as the keymap. I never have a choice of standard or extended (or anything else). The available keymaps are mac-us-std, mac-us-ext, mac-de2-ext, mac-fr2-ext, and mac-fr3. I don't even see where a dialog exists to choose between these. Am I totally not understanding something? There has been some changes to kbd-chooser recently; could you please test version 0.46; if the problem still occurs I would appreciate it if you built and tested a debug version (more comments printed in the logs); using export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug debuild -uc -us in kbd-chooser. Here's the log. Apr 6 13:40:58 (none) user.info kbd-chooser[3004]: INFO: Setting debian-installer/serial-console to false Apr 6 13:40:58 (none) user.info kbd-chooser[3004]: INFO: keyboard type mac: present: true: Apr 6 13:40:58 (none) user.info kbd-chooser[3004]: INFO: keyboard type at: present: unknown Apr 6 13:40:58 (none) user.info kbd-chooser[3004]: INFO: Setting debian-installer/serial-console to false Apr 6 13:41:01 (none) user.info kbd-chooser[3004]: INFO: choose_keymap: keymap = mac-us-ext Apr 6 13:41:01 (none) user.info kbd-chooser[3004]: INFO: kbd_chooser: setting keymap mac-us-ext -- Stephen R. Marenka If life's not fun, you're not doing it right! [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: who is the maintainer of the sparc netboot.img
Gerald Leier wrote: hi folks, im still want to get my sparcs booted with a sarge netboot.img. does someone know how to look into such a boot.img ? how to lookpback mount, which fs if any. or if kernel+ramdisk.tgz where to find the offset ? has anyone a clou on who did the netboot image for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? has anyone a hint on how to create such a netbootimage for sparc ? is the a source available for the netboot images for sparc ? thanks gerald What has worked for me is linux root=/dev/rd/0 rw at the SILO prompt. If that fails, try linux devfs=mount root=/dev/rd/0 rw. Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242021: back to main menu after reading net-drivers.floppy (2004-04-04, oldworld ppc, netinstall with floppies)
Sven Luther wrote: How can it tell that base-installer is being treated differently than other packages? Because it is an .udeb, and is originating from the debian-installer folk. Right, but where do I see if it's an .udeb? Where is that information? The Sources and Packages files don't contain the extension. Probably just using a list of packages which are in the power of the d-i team would be enough, you could write the above stuff, and a warning that this is a d-i package, and thus gets handled manually ? 79 source packages have [EMAIL PROTECTED] listed as maintainer. Are all those banned from testing at the moment, or only a subset of them? -- Björn
d-i and netcat
I got curious about how much adding netcat to busybox on d-i would cost us. If I did everything right, on i386 it doesn't cost anything (I don't know, two binaries the same size -- only one with nc, go figure). On m68k it costs an additional 1552 bytes. I'd sure like to have a netcat in d-i's busybox. What do ya'll think? Stephen -- Stephen R. Marenka If life's not fun, you're not doing it right! [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: partman (was Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive)
Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting VEROK Istvan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I echo the same sentiment. In my Hungarian translation of the wizard strings, I used something like partitioning helped by the Wizard or partitioning guided by the Wizard. The french translation uses the commonly accepted word of Assistant which is even used by the other operating systems where you have tons of wizards...-) As Assistant mostly means assist the user to do somehting, I think that's more easily accepted and less frightening I agree, I'd prefer either guided partitioning or assisted partitioning over both automatic partitioning and use the Wizard. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#242021: back to main menu after reading net-drivers.floppy (2004-04-04, oldworld ppc, netinstall with floppies)
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 05:23:19PM +0200, Björn Stenberg wrote: Sven Luther wrote: Because it is an .udeb, and is originating from the debian-installer folk. Right, but where do I see if it's an .udeb? Where is that information? The Sources and Packages files don't contain the extension. (a) They do, it's in Filename:; (b) .udebs are in main/debian-installer/binary-*/Packages rather than main/binary-*/Packages. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Processing of prebaseconfig_0.60_i386.changes
prebaseconfig_0.60_i386.changes uploaded successfully to localhost along with the files: prebaseconfig_0.60.dsc prebaseconfig_0.60.tar.gz prebaseconfig_0.60_all.udeb Greetings, Your Debian queue daemon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
prebaseconfig_0.60_i386.changes ACCEPTED
Accepted: prebaseconfig_0.60.dsc to pool/main/p/prebaseconfig/prebaseconfig_0.60.dsc prebaseconfig_0.60.tar.gz to pool/main/p/prebaseconfig/prebaseconfig_0.60.tar.gz prebaseconfig_0.60_all.udeb to pool/main/p/prebaseconfig/prebaseconfig_0.60_all.udeb Announcing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Closing bugs: 241644 Thank you for your contribution to Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
formatting partitions
Hello, I had troubles when partitioning the disk during the installation using Debian installer (beta 3). The problem is that the default format (ext2 or ext3) makes the system with 5% reserved space for root, which is sometimes too much. Therefore, I prefer to have an option to change this value. So I tried to format the partition manually via mke2fs -j -m 1 /dev/hda2 and then try to remount it (by setting use existing format). The problem is that after exiting the partitioning section the installer complainted about wrong format of the partition, so I could not continue. I event tried to modified the script residing in the ram disk at that time, but I didn't succced. Is there an (relatively) easy way how to override the default 5% reserved space ? If not, I would suggest to include such an option into the HDD partitioning section. Thanks a lot for help in advance, best regards Tomas Davidek E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#241644: marked as done (d-i: bad french title for last dialog)
Your message dated Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:47:06 -0400 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Bug#241644: fixed in prebaseconfig 0.60 has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 2 Apr 2004 07:31:24 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 01 23:31:24 2004 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr (mwinf0103.wanadoo.fr) [193.252.22.30] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1B9J9A-Js-00; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:31:24 -0800 Received: from bylbo.nowhere.earth (APuteaux-115-1-11-253.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.66.253]) by mwinf0103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7D2191BFC353 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:30:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dwitch by bylbo.nowhere.earth with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1B9JAU-0005ly-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 09:32:46 +0200 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:32:46 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: d-i: bad french title for last dialog Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i From: Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_10,HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: Package: debian-installer Version: 20040331 Tags: d-i One of the last boxes says Terminer l'installation, while it would much probably be Fin de l'installation or Finalisation de l'installation. -- Yann Dirson[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Why make M$-Bill richer richer ? Debian-related: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Support Debian GNU/Linux: Pro:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Freedom, Power, Stability, Gratuity http://ydirson.free.fr/| Check http://www.debian.org/ --- Received: (at 241644-close) by bugs.debian.org; 7 Apr 2004 16:53:11 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 07 09:53:11 2004 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from newraff.debian.org [208.185.25.31] (mail) by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BBGIY-00015w-00; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:53:10 -0700 Received: from katie by newraff.debian.org with local (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BBGCg-0007Jl-00; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:47:06 -0400 From: Joshua Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Katie: $Revision: 1.47 $ Subject: Bug#241644: fixed in prebaseconfig 0.60 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Archive Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:47:06 -0400 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: X-CrossAssassin-Scores: 1 Source: prebaseconfig Source-Version: 0.60 We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of prebaseconfig, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive: prebaseconfig_0.60.dsc to pool/main/p/prebaseconfig/prebaseconfig_0.60.dsc prebaseconfig_0.60.tar.gz to pool/main/p/prebaseconfig/prebaseconfig_0.60.tar.gz prebaseconfig_0.60_all.udeb to pool/main/p/prebaseconfig/prebaseconfig_0.60_all.udeb A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is attached. Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate. Debian distribution maintenance software pp. Joshua Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] (supplier of updated prebaseconfig package) (This message was generated automatically at their request; if you believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:19:41 -0700 Source: prebaseconfig Binary: prebaseconfig Architecture: source all Version: 0.60 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian Install System Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Joshua Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: prebaseconfig - Finish the installation and reboot
[USABILITY] Usability test of Debian Installer beta 3
Hi, Inspired by the simulated usability review at http://www.thiesen.org/d-i/index.html by [EMAIL PROTECTED], I thought I'd take the usability testing of d-i one step further by arranging a real usability test. Yes, that's with a live crash test dummy. :) I hoped to see a result similar to Marcus' simulation, but unfortunately I didn't. While I've only tested with one person so far, I now believe there is a rather big amount of usability flaws in d-i. Further testing is certainly warranted, but I couldn't set aside the results I've got so far. I'm concentrating on users who have never installed an operating system before. While this may at first seem like the wrong thing to do, I actually think it's a very sensible approach. If a user who has never installed any operating system can use d-i to successfully install Debian, then anyone can. Adding more control and features for experienced users should be easy, but if the installer is that simple then my guess is that even the gurus will appreciate getting the installation over with so they can concentrate on more important things such as installing and configuring software packages. The complete results of the usability test is at http://people.paniq.net/~fabbe/tmp/d-i-test/ (yes, tmp means temporary -- it'll be up for many weeks, even months, though). Feedback is welcome, and I'm subscribed to debian-boot so please discuss here. I'm trying to find time to arrange a few more tests within the next month or so, so that I can see what other flaws emerge. Cheers, -- Fabian Fagerholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [USABILITY] Usability test of Debian Installer beta 3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 07 April 2004 20:06, Fabian Fagerholm wrote: I'm concentrating on users who have never installed an operating system before. If you're going to use complete newbies for testing, I think you should be fair and provide them with relevant information that is freely available. At least provide them with a version of the manual which _does_ explain about scrolling and the sequence of the installation, common problems and how to solve them. Note that the manual is work in progress (just like the installer itself) and will change considerably before the final release. A relatively experienced user will probably try to install Debian without a manual (maybe only referring to it if he/she runs into trouble), but I think a real newbie would make use of a manual if one is available. Currently the manual is only publicly available online in HTML, but I can provide you with a pdf if you mail me privately. Also I think you should use the netinst CD installation method and not the floppy based one for inexperienced users. They will probably buy a CD-set for installation as it is by far the easiest method to get an installation set. You could even help improve the manual by also providing a usability report on that ;-) Cheers, FJP -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAdE8qgm/Kwh6ICoQRAnEGAKCnHRXLwNF9x9RUV2qsGMGlbm9ixwCfcozf F21eroj9rckPRVkQ2mahivo= =E1Ek -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [USABILITY] Usability test of Debian Installer beta 3
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 08:57:46PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 07 April 2004 20:06, Fabian Fagerholm wrote: I'm concentrating on users who have never installed an operating system before. If you're going to use complete newbies for testing, I think you should be fair and provide them with relevant information that is freely available. At least provide them with a version of the manual which _does_ explain about scrolling and the sequence of the installation, common problems and how to solve them. [...] No, help screens have to be improved, but unfortunately this will be done very late. Current d-i developers are working on other tasks, so anyone interested in providing a better installer can help, the only prerequisite is to have tested the debian-installer. For instance a help line can be added at the bottom to explain available keystrokes, and I will be glad to incorporate it if there are suggestions. Another useful help would be to test current daily images and see if criticisms expressed in http://www.thiesen.org/d-i/ have been dealt with, and file individual bugs if this has not already been done. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Re: [i18n] String Changes in iso-codes
Hello Christian, Speaking as a Hong Kong Chinese myself: * I want to see Mainland China and Taiwan unified too eventually. * However, Taiwan, P.O.C. is too sensitive. Speaking as a Hong Kong Chinese, using Taiwan, P.O.C. will be a bad mistake. While I think ISO 3166 for maintaining country/region information would help us keep the list updated, I do strongly feel that we MUST make an exception for the name of Taiwan. * Taiwan is a neutral name that is acceptable by both Mainland Taiwan Chinese. * Taiwan, P.O.C. is a very controversial name in Taiwan. Using that name (esp. in English the universal language) is very unwise, and is asking for trouble. Please handle this situation very carefully. As you may have heard from the recent Taiwan election, the political views of Taiwan people are very divided, roughly half and half. Please don't add oil to the fire. Using controversial terms like Taiwan, P.O.C. in a Free Software project like Debian helps NOBODY except starting flame wars here and there. It is already happening. As a matter of fact, some Taiwan Debian fans are already turned off by this, and is comparing this event to the disappearance of Taiwan flag in Red Hat Linux 8.0 about a year ago. In that case, many Taiwan users boycotted Red Hat and chose some other distributions, for good. Please don't let that happen to Debian. Again, I don't mind using ISO 3166 in d-i as long as you allow overrides. Best regards, Anthony Fok Debian Chinese Project signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [i18n] String Changes in iso-codes
I have to say I for one support this exception for Taiwan. ISO names should be accepted by all but mostly they should be accepted by the referenced party (in this case Taiwan). It is in Debian's best interest not to provoke politically, and in this case it does. My 2c. Konstantinos On Wednesday 07 April 2004 22:14, Anthony Fok wrote: Hello Christian, Speaking as a Hong Kong Chinese myself: * I want to see Mainland China and Taiwan unified too eventually. * However, Taiwan, P.O.C. is too sensitive. Speaking as a Hong Kong Chinese, using Taiwan, P.O.C. will be a bad mistake. While I think ISO 3166 for maintaining country/region information would help us keep the list updated, I do strongly feel that we MUST make an exception for the name of Taiwan. * Taiwan is a neutral name that is acceptable by both Mainland Taiwan Chinese. * Taiwan, P.O.C. is a very controversial name in Taiwan. Using that name (esp. in English the universal language) is very unwise, and is asking for trouble. Please handle this situation very carefully. As you may have heard from the recent Taiwan election, the political views of Taiwan people are very divided, roughly half and half. Please don't add oil to the fire. Using controversial terms like Taiwan, P.O.C. in a Free Software project like Debian helps NOBODY except starting flame wars here and there. It is already happening. As a matter of fact, some Taiwan Debian fans are already turned off by this, and is comparing this event to the disappearance of Taiwan flag in Red Hat Linux 8.0 about a year ago. In that case, many Taiwan users boycotted Red Hat and chose some other distributions, for good. Please don't let that happen to Debian. Again, I don't mind using ISO 3166 in d-i as long as you allow overrides. Best regards, Anthony Fok Debian Chinese Project -- Konstantinos Margaritis Debian Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [USABILITY] Usability test of Debian Installer beta 3
Hello Frans, Thanks for your feedback! On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 21:57, Frans Pop wrote: If you're going to use complete newbies for testing, I think you should be fair and provide them with relevant information that is freely available. At least provide them with a version of the manual which _does_ explain about scrolling and the sequence of the installation, common problems and how to solve them. The manual is not a usability solution. Neither is a troubleshooting section that solves problems caused by bad interaction design. I eliminated the need for the manual and the troubleshooting section by ensuring that the hardware was suitable for d-i beta 3 (that there were no funny drivers required and that the hardware discovery worked). I was testing d-i, not a manual. Had the interface been good enough, the user could have installed the system without problems. Currently the manual is only publicly available online in HTML, but I can provide you with a pdf if you mail me privately. Does the PDF contain the same data as in the SVN repository? If so, I already built the PDF. Also I think you should use the netinst CD installation method and not the floppy based one for inexperienced users. They will probably buy a CD-set for installation as it is by far the easiest method to get an installation set. My plan is to test the netinst CD installation later. I hope I can find enough test users and *time* :) You could even help improve the manual by also providing a usability report on that ;-) I'll see if I can fit in a few test cases where I give the user a printed installation manual in addition to the installation media and see how that affects the results. Cheers, -- Fabian Fagerholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Fw: Request for review of partman-newworld
Frans Pop wrote: Hello Rick, Are you still planning to work on the manual for Macs? If so, could you take a look at the text below, snip Yes I am. I got side-tracked for a while in testing d-i on old-world Macs. Thanks for the words. I'll take a look at it this weekend. Enjoy! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install help: boot floopies + sarge-i386-netinst.iso (d-i beta3)
Andrés A. Rocchia wrote: Hello, first sorry for my english I´m trying to improve it :) I´m trying to install debian sarge with boot floppies and sarge-i386-netinst.iso (d-i beta3) mounted as a loop device in the ramdisk. I put the sarge-i386-netinst.iso in a ext2 partition /dev/hda6 (/home) then boot with the boot floppies (boot.img and root.img), then I use the cd-drivers floppy and mount the sarge-i386-netinst.iso in /sarge_cd as a loop device. Now I want to tell to d-i that go with the instalation from there (/sarge_cd) but I don´t know how to do that. Can someone give me some help? Congratulations, you've managed to find an unsupported combination of installation media! I thought we had all the combinations covered.. Is there any reason why you can't use the hd-media installation method, which involves booting d-i from the hard disk using grub, lilo, loadlin, etc)? That method should be well supported and I'd expect it would work on your hardware. If you have a good reason not to want to do that, I could be convinced to add another driver floppy for d-i, this would be a hd-media driver floppy which you'd load after booting. It would then let the installer see your hard disk, proceed as it would in the standard hd-media install. The only catch is that we cannot fit drivers for all hard disks on a floppy, so it would likely be limited to supporting IDE and common SCSI controllers. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: formatting partitions
Tomas Davidek wrote: I had troubles when partitioning the disk during the installation using Debian installer (beta 3). The problem is that the default format (ext2 or ext3) makes the system with 5% reserved space for root, which is sometimes too much. Therefore, I prefer to have an option to change this value. So I tried to format the partition manually via mke2fs -j -m 1 /dev/hda2 and then try to remount it (by setting use existing format). The problem is that after exiting the partitioning section the installer complainted about wrong format of the partition, so I could not continue. I event tried to modified the script residing in the ram disk at that time, but I didn't succced. Is there an (relatively) easy way how to override the default 5% reserved space ? If not, I would suggest to include such an option into the HDD partitioning section. Currently the best way is probably to install with the defaults, and then use tune2fs -m on the running system to tweak the values. I have forwarded your mail to our bug tracking system as a wishlist bug report, perhaps we can add something to allow tweaking of these values in the installer. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#242632: should be a way to tweak reserved space on ext2/3.
Package: partman Tags: d-i Severity: wishlist - Forwarded message from Tomas Davidek [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Tomas Davidek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 19:36:31 +0200 (CEST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: formatting partitions Hello, I had troubles when partitioning the disk during the installation using Debian installer (beta 3). The problem is that the default format (ext2 or ext3) makes the system with 5% reserved space for root, which is sometimes too much. Therefore, I prefer to have an option to change this value. So I tried to format the partition manually via mke2fs -j -m 1 /dev/hda2 and then try to remount it (by setting use existing format). The problem is that after exiting the partitioning section the installer complainted about wrong format of the partition, so I could not continue. I event tried to modified the script residing in the ram disk at that time, but I didn't succced. Is there an (relatively) easy way how to override the default 5% reserved space ? If not, I would suggest to include such an option into the HDD partitioning section. Thanks a lot for help in advance, best regards Tomas Davidek E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message - -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?
Herbert Xu wrote: Katipo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it doesn't stop there. After the Han, which is the group that make up approx. 46% of the population, Han makes up 92% of the population, not 46%. Yes, you're quite right. My source was quite dated, and must have been inaccurate even then, and reinforced since then by a friend from Tian Jin also (Han, incidentally). Oh well, we live and learn. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?
Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb/wrote: Anthony Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: certainly it is NOT a bug. Anyone with half a brain can see that. So how do you justify the brokenness of the Taiwan entry -- which unlike every other entry, doesn't properly yield the name of the country? Given that the People's Republic of China is a UN member state whereas the Republic of China/Taiwan is not, is is only /consequent/ to label Taiwan that way. That does not mean Debian -- or everyone else -- has to follow. BTW, there are a lot of other names from ISO 3166 that IMO should be changed for everyday use: Short name contains unnecessary parts from the full official name (probably for political hyper-correctness): IRAN, ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF;IR= IRAN LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC;LA = LAOS MICRONESIA, FEDERATED STATES OF;FM = MICRONESIA MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF;MD = MOLDOVA TANZANIA, UNITED REPUBLIC OF;TZ = TANZANIA A different short name is more common (again, the UN name was probably chosen for political correctness): KOREA, DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF;KP = KOREA, NORTH KOREA, REPUBLIC OF;KR = KOREA, SOUTH Other strange entries: HOLY SEE (VATICAN CITY STATE);VA= VATICAN The country is Vatican City State. The Holy See is the Pope. The Vatican is not a UN member, whereas the Holy See is a (permanent IIRC) observer. So again, it's logical for the UN to use the name of the entity that has closer relations to the UN. For non-UN bodies, the use of the country name Vatican (City State) is more logical. PALESTINIAN TERRITORY, OCCUPIED;PS = PALESTINIAN TERRITORY This is actually the most problematic entry. Leaving out the occupied is not a big problem, though. It might be controversial whether to use just PALESTINE, however. ^ Claus -- http://www.faerber.muc.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: d-i and netcat
Stephen R Marenka wrote: I got curious about how much adding netcat to busybox on d-i would cost us. If I did everything right, on i386 it doesn't cost anything (I don't know, two binaries the same size -- only one with nc, go figure). On m68k it costs an additional 1552 bytes. I'd sure like to have a netcat in d-i's busybox. For what do you intend to use it? Thiemo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [USABILITY] Usability test of Debian Installer beta 3
Fabian Fagerholm wrote: Feedback is welcome, and I'm subscribed to debian-boot so please discuss here. I'm trying to find time to arrange a few more tests within the next month or so, so that I can see what other flaws emerge. Thanks for doing the testng (and please send our thanks to your tester). I really encourage you to do further testing using a CD to install; installing by booting a CDROM will work on the vast majority of hardware, including any hardware a true new user would be likely to have, and it is much less tortuous and error prone. I expect that your tester would have gotten to at least the base-config process if using a CD. By the way, if you do test with CDs, please use full-size CDs, and not the netinst CDs. I'd think it best to break out the individual points in your summary into bug reports on the right installer components, and here's some commentary to that end: step 2-9: (debian-installer) I'm a bit suprised to see the user going through all the help in such detail. This suggests that more online help later on would be a good thing. We're getting that in the new version of partman at least. It also suggests that we should somehow make more clear that you shouldn't need to read all that stuff unless you're curious, or something is going wrong, but I am not sure of how to accomplish that. step 10: (debian-installer) It should be possible to reword the prompt on the help screens to make clearer that enter boots the system. I'll see what I can do. step 11: (rootskel-floppy) I think you're too charitable; many new users would not like the linux boot text at all. Luckily it's only this in your face on an install from floppies; normally it flashes by and the installer loads in seconds. step 13: (languagechooser) It's a pity that she did not scroll down and find the fi_FI entry. I wonder if adding arrows to the scroll bar, or some other indication that there is more below would have helped her. step 17: (countrychooser) The fact that hitting enter on a continent returns to the menu is something I have always disliked, but I have no particularly better idea. step 18-19: (kbd-chooser) It's probably a bug that the keyboard selector did not default to Finnish here. step 20: (load-floppy) You're right, that needs to stress that now is the time to change the floppy. I'll see about fixing this. step 21: (anna) This mess has been on my list to fix for a while, but it's nontrivial. The retreivers need to be extended to have failure handling capabilities, instead of this generic handler; the failure handler for the floppy should re-prompt for the floppy if none was found. step 22-30: (main-menu) I've seen users get into this kind of confusion when something goes wrong and the priority is lowered. Short of avoiding ever letting things go that badly wrong (which is a noble goal, but perhaps unobtainable), it's hard to fix it. Note that none of this is shown to users unless something goes wrong. On your other comments: - I agree that cdebconf's multiselct box implementation is confusing. Luckily we have no multiselct lists in the standard install path (unless something goes wrong). I would like to see it easier to use, better key assignments or at least a help bar at the bottom. (cdebconf) - Some of your UI ideas are not particularly doable with the current simple queston and answer, cdebconf-based interface. Some of them can be approached in spirit, if not in actual UI. (cdebconf) - Your idea for presenting a list of information the installer needs (language, country, keyboard) is a good one, and it's similar to an earlier proposal I made, which would also include some other information prompted for later. Unfortunatly, it will be a lot of work to implement this, and I've put off working on my idea until after the first release. There is still time to do it, I think, if someone is interested. Plan for a good week's work. (main-menu) - Indeed we don't display the kernel modules screen on normal installs. We do display a progress bar that breifly mentions the modules that are being loaded; while this will contain terms that users are not familiar with, I think the overall thing is clear, they do not have to interact with it, and it's essential for debugging when a module freezes the machine. (hw-detect) As to your conclusions, I think that you're jumping to conclusions from one test with floppies. Out of our 300+ installation reports (and the many more users who have installed without reporting), I think there are a few that are from users nearly as novice as your tester, and succeeded. However, they all used CDROMs. I look
Bug#242659: d-i errors on alpha
Package: installation-reports Severity: Normal an-installer-version: sarge-alpha-netinst.iso daily build from 5. April uname -a: (don't remember exactly but was 2.4.24) Date: 07. April 2004 Method: boot from scsi cdrom, target root partition on scsi hard-disc Machine: alpha rawhide Processor: 4 Memory: ~ 800 Mb Root Device: SCSI Maverick hard disc Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked:[0] Configure network HW: [0] Config network: [0] Detect CD: [E] 1) Load installer modules: [0] Detect hard drives: [0] Partition hard drives: [0] Create file systems:[0] Mount partitions: [0] Install base system:[E] 2) Install boot loader:[E] 3) Reboot: [ ] [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Comments/Problems: 1) the cd from whom aboot booted the debian system was not recognised: cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 Vendor: DEC Model: RRD47(C) DEC Rev: 1206 Type: CD-ROMANSI SCSI revision: 02 mount /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target5/lun0/cd /cdrom 2) base system install aborted with following message on console 3: trying to overwrite /etc/default/devpts which is also in packages initscripts .. errors where encountered while processing .*libc6 also tried beta3, but this aborted even earlier in base-install with no error message while trying to install libgcrypt did a reinstall on clean partition and aboves error appeared again. manually installed all packages witch dpkg inside a chroot 3) at this stage i strongly missed a menu-entry for aboot at d-i!! from within the chroot one can't do much so i tried a recommendation from an srm howto (- http://www.sgmltools.org/HOWTO/SRM-HOWTO/t182.html) did an # swriteboot /dev/sda bootlx vmlinux.gz (well different pathes .. but you got it) it asked for an -fi in order to overwrite the first empty partition, which was given. I eventually forgot to setup an /etc/aboot.conf the installation ended somehow miserably with a working debian install (had already an sshd inside) but without the possibility too boot inside this root partition :( i tried many possible root flags from within srm, but the kernel always failed to find the root partition (also tried boot root partition from cd). regards maks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?
John Hasler wrote: Erik Steffl writes: so you're going to call germany deutschland? Is Deutschland being labeled Germany to appease a powerful neighbor despite the objections of the inhabitants? I thought we're not into political disputes. that could make the list of countries quite incomprehensible for general public (different alphabets and all that). Which is no doubt why the Germans, being reasonable people, are willing to have their nation labeled Germany. that's not really up to us to decide (provided we don't want to get into politics). That's why I think it is better to use standard names, even though some of them might be objectionable from certain perspectives. As soon as you start deciding what some people like or not you're deep in smelly matter. Now if debian decides to make a political statement and call taiwan taiwan I am kinda for it, but let's not pretend that it's not a political statement, that it's neutral. erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request for review of partman-newworld
On 7.IV.2004 Colin Watson wrote: This was my first exposure to partman's internals, so I'd appreciate it if a partman expert (Anton?) could look it over for any glaring errors. It is not dangerous, but it won/t work properly. Partman-palo (and partman-lvm) contained some hacks that are not necessary with the new version of partman. However I haven't updated fully the code of partman-palo yet.I will look at partman-newworld after a few days. I suppose that only one partition needs to be yaboot partition. However the Mac disk label supports more than one partition with bootable flag set. How the bootable flag is supposed to be used? Probably every operating system has to have one partition with bootable flag set? Anton Zinoviev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..
On Mar 28, 2004, at 18:52, Henning Makholm wrote: Huh? Is the bootsector use written in a kind of machine language that the regular as(1) for the architecture does not support? I thought that i386 was the only platform with *that* problem. Actually, probably yes. It's probably in m68k assembly even on PowerPC machines. I'll have to check... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..
On Mar 30, 2004, at 01:20, Sven Luther wrote: I have a fear suspision that this may be more related to newworld, than the oldworld stuff needed for miboot, which may probably be varying between the different models we may need to support. gasp That's the boot block people are arguing about? That is definitely valid for oldworld; it was written before 1994. (The web site says '96, but I have a copy on my Inside Mac CD from 1994.) With Generally, however, the boot code stored on disk is ignored in favor of boot code stored in a resource in the System file. do you even need those bytes after it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..
On Mar 30, 2004, at 02:03, Sven Luther wrote: Notice that there is 200bytes or so of m68k asm, most of them A-trap calls to the Mac OS rom, concerned. I doubt you have much chance of getting anything but a 100% identical code, whatever the way you go at generating it. That is a good argument that it is not copyrightable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?
Erik Steffl wrote: That's why I think it is better to use standard names, even though some of them might be objectionable from certain perspectives. But that's the point! The name is objectionable from a technical perspective: it's unnecessarily long and bulky. We are not writing Germany (Federal Republic of), so why write Taiwan (Province of China)? Just because some piece of paper says it? Now if debian decides to make a political statement and call taiwan taiwan I am kinda for it, but let's not pretend that it's not a political statement, that it's neutral. The ISO standard is the thing that's being a political statement, not the other way round. Technically, we should just call Taiwan Taiwan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [USABILITY] Usability test of Debian Installer beta 3
Joey Hess wrote: step 10: (debian-installer) It should be possible to reword the prompt on the help screens to make clearer that enter boots the system. I'll see what I can do. Done. step 21: (anna) This mess has been on my list to fix for a while, but it's nontrivial. The retreivers need to be extended to have failure handling capabilities, instead of this generic handler; the failure handler for the floppy should re-prompt for the floppy if none was found. I took another look at it, and it's not that hard. My current implementaton adds a new command to the retriever spec: retriever error failing_command This command can be called if one of the other commands seems to have failed, perhaps by returning bad data. The failing_command field tells the retriever command that previously failed. For example, it might be packages is package retrieval failed, or the Packages file cannot be parsed. The retriever can take any necessary actions to recover (or ask the user if they want to retry, if the medium is unreliable or absent). If the recovery succeeds, it should exit 0. If recovery failed, it should display an informative error message if necessary, and exit 2. Retievers should implement this command, but temporarily for backwards compatability, if a retriever exits 1, it is assumed that it did not support this command, and anna will display its own (ugly) error message. I have an implementation for the floppy retreiver and the particular error that's generated when there is not a driver floppy in the drive. If this looks ok, we will need to add the error command to all the other retrievers eventually, and add support for the other possible errors in anna. I rather like this becase it also deals with the case where downloading installer components fails because of a transient network problem. This will let the user choose to try downloading a component again. It could even let the user choose a new mirror. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Processing of os-prober_0.03_i386.changes
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Re: install help: boot floopies + sarge-i386-netinst.iso (d-i beta3)
Andrés A. Rocchia wrote: Hello, first sorry for my english I´m trying to improve it :) I´m trying to install debian sarge with boot floppies and sarge-i386-netinst.iso (d-i beta3) mounted as a loop device in the ramdisk. I put the sarge-i386-netinst.iso in a ext2 partition /dev/hda6 (/home) then boot with the boot floppies (boot.img and root.img), then I use the cd-drivers floppy and mount the sarge-i386-netinst.iso in /sarge_cd as a loop device. Now I want to tell to d-i that go with the instalation from there (/sarge_cd) but I don´t know how to do that. Can someone give me some help? Congratulations, you've managed to find an unsupported combination of installation media! I thought we had all the combinations covered.. I win a prize for that? :-) Is there any reason why you can't use the hd-media installation method, which involves booting d-i from the hard disk using grub, lilo, loadlin, etc)? That method should be well supported and I'd expect it would work on your hardware. No, I have no trouble with others hd-media installation methods, I thougth that with an already mounted cd (as a loop device) in the ramdisk it will be easy to continue from there. When I install woody, I do with the boot floppies and the basedebs.tar in the hd, the installer automatically found it for me. Now I want to install sarge in a similar way, for that my question. If you have a good reason not to want to do that, I could be convinced to add another driver floppy for d-i, this would be a hd-media driver floppy which you'd load after booting. It would then let the installer see your hard disk, proceed as it would in the standard hd-media install. The only catch is that we cannot fit drivers for all hard disks on a floppy, so it would likely be limited to supporting IDE and common SCSI controllers. I haven´t a particular reason for not try with another method but it will be great is that was possible, may be in sarge+1 ? Thankyou very much for answer my question and for the great job with d-i!! AR PS: again sorry for my english :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partman (was Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive)
Andrew Pollock wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 10:46:05PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: We do have a beta3 branch in the repo, but it's acting more like a tag, I guess, no changes have been made to it. I tried the new partman, and it works great. Wow, that's a lot of work! My only quibble is with the use of the term Wizard, as in Use the Wizard to partition. I don't think wizard is a proper noun, so should not be capitalised, and I don't see how this is better than the old Automatically partition. It assumes that the user is familiar with windows wizard-type things (and doesn't hate them ;-), and seems overly cute to me. Just my $0.05 worth... On a system that I've already got an operating system installed on, that I really, really would prefer not to hose, I'm going to fear and distrust anything that uses the words Automatic and Partition together, and choose some other option that implies I have more control over whether or not I accidentally hose the partition that has my other OS on it... Um, that would be a correct decision. ;-) I would trust a Wizard even less, of course. Particularly if I'm not confident before selecting the item that it isn't going to go off on it's merry way and do something unrevertable before I get a chance to go hang on!. I suspect users new to Linux/Debian but familiar with PCs in general are going to take this line of reasoning. regards Andrew -- Make sure your vote will count. http://www.verifiedvoting.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partman (was Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive)
Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting VEROK Istvan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I echo the same sentiment. In my Hungarian translation of the wizard strings, I used something like partitioning helped by the Wizard or partitioning guided by the Wizard. The french translation uses the commonly accepted word of Assistant which is even used by the other operating systems where you have tons of wizards...-) As Assistant mostly means assist the user to do somehting, I think that's more easily accepted and less frightening Assisted Partitioning is certainly better. :-) -- Make sure your vote will count. http://www.verifiedvoting.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Accepted: grub-installer_0.39.dsc to pool/main/g/grub-installer/grub-installer_0.39.dsc grub-installer_0.39.tar.gz to pool/main/g/grub-installer/grub-installer_0.39.tar.gz grub-installer_0.39_i386.udeb to pool/main/g/grub-installer/grub-installer_0.39_i386.udeb Announcing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Closing bugs: 229212 233897 237185 238293 240228 Thank you for your contribution to Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#238293: marked as done (Doesn't include WinXP boot capability)
Your message dated Wed, 07 Apr 2004 22:02:10 -0400 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Bug#229212: fixed in grub-installer 0.39 has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 5 Mar 2004 20:08:59 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 05 12:08:59 2004 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail.acu.edu (nicanor.acu.edu) [150.252.135.93] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1AzLcx-0007oK-00; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:08:59 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.acu.edu by mail.acu.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) id [EMAIL PROTECTED] (original mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:08:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from acu.edu ([150.252.128.52]) by mail.acu.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:08:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:08:54 -0600 From: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: installation-reports bug To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040221) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_05 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_05 X-Spam-Level: Package: installation-reports Debian-installer-version: I believe it was the i386 100MB CD from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/, downloaded about 24 Feb 2004 uname -a: 2.4.22-1-386 (having already upgraded at this time, I don't have the other details) Date: about 2 March 2004 Method: Booted off the CD; configured networking, dual-boot with WinXP, after base install reconfigured sources.list to point to unstable and dist-upgraded Machine: Dell Optiplex GX270 Processor: 2.20 GHz Celeron Memory: 256MB Root Device: 40 GB IDE /dev/hda (brand/model unknown) Root Size/partition table: Disk /dev/hda: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4998 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1255020482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS WinXP /dev/hda225514998196635605 Extended /dev/hda525513766 9767488+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dos (for sharing between the two OSes) /dev/hda637673790 192748+ 83 Linux / /dev/hda737913814 192748+ 83 Linux /boot /dev/hda838154179 2931831 83 Linux /usr /dev/hda941804270 730926 83 Linux /var /dev/hda10 42714732 3710983+ 83 Linux /home /dev/hda11 47334856 995998+ 83 Linux /tmp /dev/hda12 48574998 1140583+ 82 Linux swap Output of lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB2 (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev c2) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB LPC Interface Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB SMBus Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) 01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02) Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked:[O] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems:[O] Mount partitions: [E] Install base system:[O]
