Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-05 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 06:40:52PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 On that note, how likely is it to hit a UTF-8 character encoding that
 contains a '\n'? Any non UTF-8 aware parser would assume a new line
 has started and get parse errors.

0% likely, guaranteed.

UTF-8 is *designed* to be upwards compatible with plain ASCII. Every
valid ASCII character has the same meaning in UTF-8. Every UTF-8 byte
sequence for a non-ASCII character will not contain *any* ASCII characters.

This is achieved by making sure that everything above plain ASCII has
the high bit set, not just for the first byte, but for all of them.

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Re: debian-installer beta 1

2003-11-19 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 10:42:11PM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 07:52:32AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
  
  1. Linux 2.6.0?
 
 Not released yet. Yes, it has a _lot_ of nice features, but it is beta
 software..

It (or patches to 2.4.22) is also needed if you decide to buy a modern
machine right now. I've had to dig up an old plain IDE disk to stage a
Linux install to my dual SATA drives in my new machine.

Otherwise the beta installer worked fine.

The strange thing with SATA support is that I couldn't get the modules
in debian's 2.6.0-test9 kernel to recognize my drives, but a self
compiled 2.6.0-test9-bk19 kernel with the SATA drivers (for promise and
via) compiled in did work.

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Bug#159037: general: Time Problem

2002-09-01 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 07:14:43PM -0400, Matt Filizzi wrote:
 I don't know what is causing this problem but all I know is that I have
 narrowed it down to being caused either by a package or by the install
 system.  I installed from the woody install disks then upgraded to sid.
 What happenes is that the time jumps ahead then back, eg (this is output
 from while true; do date;done

I've had the same thing happen and in my case it's caused by the VIA
chipset on my motherboard. Some kernels will print probable hardware
bug: clock timer configuration lost - probably a VIA686a. which you can
check for in the dmesg output.

I notice that kernel 2.4.19 doesn't print this anymore and also doesn't
exhibit the problem, so I'm happy using that.

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Re: Bug#156503: M$ true type fonts in non-free?

2002-08-14 Thread Bart Schuller
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 08:47:31AM -0400, Eric Sharkey wrote:
 There used to be more information about Microsoft's interprettation of
 their own EULA on the font web page.  Since that page is gone, it's no
 longer there, but the gist of it was that they were taking a very very
 strict view of a true and complete copy, to the extent that changing
 the packaging of the fonts in any way (even just changing the filename
 without changing the file contents) would make it no longer a true and
 complete copy.  They were pretty clear on this point.
 
 In other words, no tarballs allowed.  Distribution has to be in the form
 of a collection of separate Windows 95 self-installing executables.

Then there should still be nothing wrong with packing all of those
.exe's in a tar file, for transport. The package would then be based on
the current installer package.

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Re: Packages still in Potato

2002-04-18 Thread Bart Schuller
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:39:12PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote:
 If a package works, has no new upstream versions and doesn't get
 outdated policywise there is no need for a new version of the package
 just because we're making a new release.

The making a release may not be the best reason. But a regular
interval certainly is. One of my packages hasn't been updated since
potato. It turns out to no longer compile from source. however, that
kind of bug is typically only found when a buildd tries to build a new
version.

It's not enough for the packages to be able to run, they have to be
buildable as well. And because that depends on the state of the rest of
the system, we will have to test for it once in a while.

Bit rot really does exist.

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Intent to remove: tom, libtom2

2002-04-11 Thread Bart Schuller
Hi,

I'm the maintainer of tom, an experimental programming language. The
archives contain a version from October 1999. Trying to recompile it now
on a sid machine fails.

Upstream development on this implementation was already dead, as they
switched to a new system writen in tom itself. And there too development
has stopped.

It's my opinion that this package serves no useful purpose and should be
removed from testing and unstable. Note that I can file a does not
build bug easily if usefulness doesn't seem like a good criterion.

Speak now or forever hold your peace...

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Re: Boost and Loki

2001-04-28 Thread Bart Schuller
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:37:20PM -0500, David A. Greene wrote:
 Since we're on the topic of C++ libraries, has anyone looked
 at Loki from Andrei Alexandrescu?  It is described in
 Modern C++ Design from AW, but the website
 (www.moderncppdesign.com)is currently down.  I'm not sure of
 the license.  Loki is a library of (among other things)

See http://cseng.aw.com/book/0,3828,0201704315,00.html and the Source
Code link on that page.

To me it looks like the official site(s) are misconfigured. They
redirect to a missing page.

The source files contain the following notice:

// The Loki Library
// Copyright (c) 2001 by Andrei Alexandrescu
// This code accompanies the book:
// Alexandrescu, Andrei. Modern C++ Design: Generic Programming and Design 
// Patterns Applied. Copyright (c) 2001. Addison-Wesley.
// Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute and sell this software for any 
// purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided that the above copyright 
// notice appear in all copies and that both that copyright notice and this 
// permission notice appear in supporting documentation.
// The author or Addison-Welsey Longman make no representations about the 
// suitability of this software for any purpose. It is provided as is 
// without express or implied warranty.

Which looks perfectly DFSG compliant to me.

I haven't really tried using them yet, but I already noticed that the
Thread support has only been done for win32, so someone will have to
write some additional (probably simple, if you know about pthreads)
code.

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Re: What to do about /etc/debian_version

2001-01-05 Thread Bart Schuller
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 08:07:44AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
 Screw it, just kill the file. We don't have a mechanism for coping with
 it.

I've seen third-party software install scripts use the file to determine
which Linux distribution it's running on.

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Re: Need server

2001-01-04 Thread Bart Schuller
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:56:41PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:48:34PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
  There are almost two hundred public Debian mirrors, use them.
 
 Sure. But I was hoping someone would know a machine that a) is up-to-date
 (the three machines outside the US I tried so far are not) and b) is
 accessible pretty well (which ftp.debian.org is not).

download.sourceforge.net

Does rsync too :-)

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Re: autodetecting MBR location

2001-01-02 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 02:24:22PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
 | s/[0-9]*//
 | s/part$/disc/
 
 What is the use of the first s/?  Unless your first letter is a digit,
 it will just remove the zero-width string '' between the first / and
 the beginning of the string.
 
 A better solution will probably be to 
 
 s/[0-9]$//
 
 which will remove 5 from /dev/hda5.

You seem to know that $ and ^ anchor a match to the end or the beginning
of a string. So you should also know that in the absence of one of
these characters, the match may start anywhere in the string. So the
statement works fine as it is.

However, stylistically s/[0-9]*// is better written as s/[0-9]+//
because the case where no digits match is better classified as
not a match.

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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-26 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:26:07PM -, Moshe Zadka wrote:
 On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl
  recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules.
 
 I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6.
 Last I heard, they weren't playing well together.

I can verify that it works, we did a local recompile:

Package: libapache-mod-perl
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: web
Installed-Size: 1032
Maintainer: Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 1.24.01-2
Depends: apache-common (= 1.3.14-0), apache-common ( 1.3.15-0),
perl-5.6, libwww-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libdevel-symdump-perl,
data-dumper, liburi-perl, libc6 (= 2.1.97), libperl5.6 (= 5.6.0)

It also seems to be working fine.

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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-26 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:13PM +0100, I wrote:
 I can verify that it works, we did a local recompile:

Maybe we did, but I can't read apt-cache output because this version
comes simply from unstable.

So no ifs and whens, it's already done and it works.

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Re: mp3 encoding patents.

2000-09-14 Thread Bart Schuller
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 12:57:10PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
 On 13-Sep-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry to bring up this subject again.
  I just wanted to know that can't mp3 encoders be distributed from a non-us
  site where the policies are much more relaxed ?
  
 the patents are held in Germany.  This restricts us because most countries in
 Europe accept them.

We would have a mirroring problem in any case, but that would still not
rule out hosting them in (and for) countries that don't allow these
kinds of patents.

Speaking for the Netherlands: you can't patent maths/software here.
European patents are also not automatically valid here, you still have
to apply for the patent. However, there's a fast track for european
patents, so the application could just be a formality. What happens if
such a formality clashes with the local laws is an interesting question.

Searching the Dutch patent database, I couldn't find the relevant
patents, but that might be because I don't know which are the relevant
patents. Anyone have some numbers?

http://nl.espacenet.com/ for Dutch patents, replace the nl with a
different country code if you're interested.

Oh, and of course IANAL.

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Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:10:49AM -0500, David Starner wrote:
 The problem is not patents, it's that this particular patent also 
 applies in Germany, meaning we can't distribute from non-us either.

Yes we can, but not to or from Germany. Non-US is in The Netherlands,
which doesn't have software patents.

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Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Bart Schuller
[this is debian-devel, where we don't Cc unless explicitly asked]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:24:12PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 The policy says about non-US:
 
 2.1.5. The non-us server
 

That's in the context of how to categorize a package, not a list of
Debian machines and their one and only purposes.

What frustrates me is that there's software that's

- useful
- free
- legal (at least for quite a few millions of people)

but not officially available for Debian.

I understand fully that using the name non-US for patent-encumbered
software is wrong. However, the machine pandora.debian.org is in an
excellent position to also host a non-Software-Patents section of the
archive, which can again be subdivided in main, contrib and non-free.

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Re: Signing Packages.gz

2000-04-02 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 02:46:30PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
 PGP (v2.x, I'm not uptodate with the recent OpenPGP stuff), generates a
 secret (albeit symmetric, rather than public/private keypair) IDEA key
 everytime you try to encrpt a message. It encrypts the message with this
 key, then encrypts the key with the recipients public key, and (and here's
 the bit I was referring to) *sends that secret IDEA key across the net*.

But you might emphasize that this secret key is used exactly once, just
for this message. Intercepting it won't allow you to sign other stuff as
someone else.
So equating the sending of this kind of secret key and leaving your
private key on a server is comparing apples and oranges.

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Re: ITP: transformiix

2000-03-22 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 10:42:38PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:
  Transformiix is a XSLT processor written in C++.

URL?

  Which section would this go? web or text?

I'd say text. Otherwise we could also dump all databases, scripting
languages and most other stuff in web.

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Re: ITP: fakedate

1999-05-26 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 06:43:12PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
 On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:32:16PM -0400, Ben Pfaff wrote:
 [...regarding time-travel library...]

 Or a clever wrapper for shareware style trial packages for linux
 that stop working after a certian time. I don't think there are any
 yet, but when lin= ux is popular there will be.
  
  Presumably such shareware authors would be smart enough to statically
  link their binaries.
 
 ...and thusly guarantee nobody in their right mind will waste the memory
 their application requires.  =

Not to mention having to write their own libc.  :-)

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Re: doc book filtering tools?

1999-05-22 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:33:48PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
 I am specifically looking for the db2rtf conversion filter, but there seem
 to be a whole collection of such converters that are no where to be found
 in Debian. (at least not in the slink contents file)

In potato there's cygnus-stylesheets which has db2* commands. In slink
there's probably docbook-stylesheets which you can use by hand using
jade -t rtf -d /path/to/print/docbook.dsl file.sgml

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Re: Where does 'www-data' come from?

1999-01-19 Thread Bart Schuller
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 08:20:23AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 01:51:39PM -0500, J. S. Connell wrote:
  On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote:
   started to wonder... Where does the name www-data come from? IS there 
   any
   argument against 'www' ?
  
  Or perhaps one might ask why Debian deviated from common practice in naming
  the httpd user www-data instead of httpd, like everyone else.
 
 Because www-data is more descriptive?

That's what I wonder:

Is www-data the uid of the web server process or is it the owner of the
served files?

Both at the same time is a very unwise choice as a default (but
sometimes necessary for discussion boards and the like).

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Re: dupload problem

1999-01-19 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 05:30:50PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote:
  When I upload a package I first issue the command ssh-agent
 bash, then dupload -t master package-name.changes.  This does the
 job, but asks for my pass-phrase twice for each file being uploaded.
[...]
  How can I eliminate the excessive number of pass-phrase entries?

By running ssh-add after ssh-agent bash?

BTW, I use this in my .tcshrc so that I always have an ssh-agent
running:

if (! $?SSH_AUTH_SOCK) then
rm -f /tmp/ssh_agent.* /dev/null
exec ssh-agent tcsh
endif

It is a bit dangerous, because the name of that environment variable has
already changed once, which resulted in an endless loop, but I still
like it :-)

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Re: moving mutt-i from non-us to main

1998-10-17 Thread Bart Schuller
People,

The fact that there even exist two debian versions of mutt should tell
you that it was an issue for people. Looking through the changelogs, I
see that mutt was moved to non-US in Feb. 1997:

mutt (0.61.1-1) unstable; urgency=low

  * New upstream release. 
  * Now non-US. (Bug #7257)

 -- J.H.M. Dassen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:15:27 +0100

Has anything changed since then, or do we have a too short collective
memory?

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Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-14 Thread Bart Schuller
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:33:12PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
 Are we going to include apt in the base system? Its package
 ordering feature (and a few others) obsoletes the other methods, but
 currently apt doesn't work with mountable media. A multi-cdrom-apt
 method should be added quick.

Not multiple media, but it works perfectly with file:// urls. What do
you mean with mountable media?

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Re: office package

1998-10-11 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sat, Oct 10, 1998 at 02:20:14PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
   I wonder if and when we get together a real office package under gnome. I
   wouldlove to see that. My personal favorites would be a glyx, gtksql with
   poistgresql and a spreadsheet, currently siag seems to be the best bet. 
   But
   that one's not with gtk either.

Seriously, take a look at gnumeric if you haven't already. It looks
awesome and is in very active development. It's part of Gnome.

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Re: dhcpcd should probably be in base and on the boot floppies

1998-10-11 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 11:22:58AM +0300, Tommi Virtanen wrote:
   Last time I checked, pcmcia and dhcp didn't get along
   very well. Any ideas? (I'm interested in fixing this,
   but don't know where to start)

I didn't have the complete picture yet when I installed my laptop, but
after reading the cardmgr docs it was easy: Change one setting to y in
the config file for the pcmcia tools and the system will use dhcpcd
whenever an ethernet card is inserted.

So yes, this should probably be part of the boot floppies, as it can't
get much easier than that.

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Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-11 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:07:31PM +, Raja R Harinath wrote:
 I don't see how it follows.  we have implicitly allowed all users to
 link LyX with XForms does not imply we have implicitly allowed
 (re)distribution of the resulting LyX binaries, which I guess is the
 issue at hand.

Because *implicit* permission isn't good enough. By default *nothing* is
allowed. So every right the authors grant you had better be written down
in a license accompanying the software, otherwise one of the authors (or
sometimes even their employers) can later sue you.

In this particular case it is important to be explicit about the extra
permissions granted, because people might get the mistaken belief that
it is thus also ok to import other GPLed code into the project.

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Re: office package

1998-10-10 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sat, Oct 10, 1998 at 10:10:48PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
 I wonder if and when we get together a real office package under gnome. I
 wouldlove to see that. My personal favorites would be a glyx, gtksql with
 poistgresql and a spreadsheet, currently siag seems to be the best bet. But
 that one's not with gtk either.

Then you'll just *love* to know that I noticed something called KSiag
on http://www.kde.org/news_dyn.html

 Sigh!

Indeed. Sorry for the heavy sarcasm.

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Re: perl5.005 installation structure

1998-10-07 Thread Bart Schuller
On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 01:47:51AM -0700, John Lapeyre wrote:
   Could you confirm or deny, that the /usr/lib/perl5 no longer
 contains *.pm files ? There seems to be some confusion, but on

If this is the case, then the list of packages that have to be changed
grows even larger: I suppose dpkg-perl for example installs into a
directory which is no longer searched by this version.

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Re: Perl 5.005.02

1998-10-06 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 01:35:46PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 The perl package is in incoming. So here is the list of the 33 packages that 
 need to be updated. The maintainers are listed. The list corresponds to
 package which contains filenames matching /usr/lib/perl5.*\.so.

This didn't catch vim-perl, which seems to have been statically linked
to perl, but references the libraries of the current version so should
be upgraded as well.

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Re: procps

1998-01-08 Thread Bart Schuller
BTW,

Does anyone know where killall went? procps_1.2.2-1 doesn't seem to
include it. killall is used in quite a lot of scripts, which are now
starting to break.

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Re: procps

1998-01-08 Thread Bart Schuller
On Jan 8, Scott Ellis wrote
 On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Bart Schuller wrote:
  Does anyone know where killall went? procps_1.2.2-1 doesn't seem to
  include it. killall is used in quite a lot of scripts, which are now
  starting to break.
 
 Yes, it got broken out upstream into a seperate psmisc package.  Which is
 now stuck in incoming.  You can find an incoming mirror at
 ftp://ftp1.us.debian.org/pub/debian/Incoming

Thanks.

I mut say I find the policy with respect to split or renamed packages
getting stuck in Incoming suboptimal. First e2fsprogsg, now killall.

It is a bit too easy to end up with a broken system, something which the
policy for new packages is supposed to prevent.

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Re: procps

1998-01-08 Thread Bart Schuller
On Jan 8, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
  Please file a bugreport against ftp.debian.org so Guy remembers this.
 
 Note that this is probably already covered:
 #4378: Dependencies should be checked automatically
 #9857: ftp 'dinstall' needs to check dependancies

Now you're really scaring me: out of curiosity, I browsed the first bug
report, which contains this beauty of a message:

Hi!

I'm on vacation for one month, so I'm not reading any email.  I'll be
back on July 14, and I'll respond to all my email by July 16.

You will only receive this email once.


Guy

To me this illustrates the severity of the situation. (Note, btw, that
this is nothing personal against the current ftp site maintainer, it's
the whole procedure I have a problem with).

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Re: potential mayhem with trial libc6 package and kernel-headers

1997-12-20 Thread Bart Schuller
On Dec 20, Manoj Srivastava wrote
  Bart == Bart Schuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Bart Particularly if they happened to have a fully unpacked and
 Bart configured kernel source tree in /usr/src/linux .
 
 Bart * Poof *
 
   No it does not! Would you please look at what the postinst
  does before spreading FUD?

I'm sorry, I can't explain it, but that is exactly what happened to my
system. But you're perfectly right, looking at the postinst, it's
paranoid enough. So I'll just pretend it never happened :-)

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Re: potential mayhem with trial libc6 package and kernel-headers

1997-12-19 Thread Bart Schuller
On Dec 19, Rob Browning wrote
 People who weren't using kernel-headers before (because they never
 needed it), may be in for a shock.

Particularly if they happened to have a fully unpacked and configured
kernel source tree in /usr/src/linux .

* Poof *

It's only a slight inconvenience, but I'd rather have known beforehand,
so that I might have saved my .config

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Re: Ray Dassen, read this!

1997-12-14 Thread Bart Schuller
On Dec 14, Guy Maor wrote
 Email to you is bouncing.

Thanks, I just phoned Ray, he will have a word with his sysadmins in
about 11 hours.

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Re: version numbers on virtual packages

1997-12-05 Thread Bart Schuller
On Dec 5, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote
 I was going to change perl to perl5 think weekend and just provide the
 virtual package perl.  This would close a bug filed by Brian White who
 is worried about Perl6.  While I was thinking about this during builds

I think you'd better make that perl5.004, because breakage could just as
well occur with 5.005 or 5.006, not just perl6. With 5.005 we'll need a
threaded and non-threaded version as well. Fun.

But are you trying to protect debian perl based packages or user written
perl programs? The user should already know about possible perl versions
and use #!/usr/bin/perl5.004 where necessary. Debian can't protect user
written code from breaking.

Preventing other debian packages from breaking can be done without
changing the package name.

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Re: Bug#9813: rxvt 2.20-4 : Bad setting of TERM environ variable

1997-05-16 Thread Bart Schuller
On May 16, J.H.M.Dassen wrote
 On May 15, John Goerzen wrote
  Brian Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   rxvt (and rxvt-xpm) always exports the variable COLORTERM so that
   programs can check for color support.  As a side note, when XPM support
   has been 
  
  Unfortunately, I know of no programs that make use of this variable.  In
  fact, I believe that ncurses doesn't even use it.
 
 The S-Lang library support it. For a demonstration: start up rxvt (I've used
 2.20-4) and fire up mutt. You'll have colour support, with $TERM == xterm .
 Now start it up env -u COLORTERM mutt. It'll be blackwhite.

Which makes for a very confusing setup, as COLORTERM doesn't get
propagated by telnet, ssh, etc. It took us a while to figure out under
what circumstances we got color.

What problem is COLORTERM trying to solve? It's very non-standard.

Also, I'd hope that if xterm now does color as standard, that fact is
reflected in its terminfo entry.

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