Re: Idea of Debian mascot
How about a potato as a mascot? It is a staple in many diets, it dovetails nicely with the Toy Story leitmotif running through debian versioning, and is malleable allowing it to look like a lot of things, i.e. with a face, a swirl on its belly, etc. The logos are fantastic and should not be changed. Changing the swirl would damage the debian brand which stands for technically advanced, commited to freedom, user-focused, stable and supported amongst other things. If the swirl changed, it would make debian seem less stable since the image of the brand would be seen to shift. A mascot might help with branding. While branding is generally something that FLOSS engineers care nothing about, and seems trivial, it has an impact. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:23:33AM -0600, Anibal Avelar wrote: http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/Mascot_Harmony_without_Strings_by_ravenmosher.jpg That looks like some sort of big eyeball? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
Lars Wirzenius wrote: [...] I'd really rather see something nicer than an ant as a mascot. :) How about a cockroach? Beautifully engineered, indestructable, and they're *everywhere*... -- David Given [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
2008/2/26, David Given [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lars Wirzenius wrote: I'd really rather see something nicer than an ant as a mascot. :) How about a cockroach? Beautifully engineered, indestructable, and they're *everywhere*... No thanks, I preferred the Weasel idea to this :P Miry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
Raphael Hertzog dijo [Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:33:26PM +0100]: For an idea of a mascot, maybe you could try some sort of bear. When I created the logo of my company [1], I tried to select an animal that could remind me the strength of Debian and I selected the bear: - walks usually slowly but when it runs, you'd better not be in his way (the quiet force -- we say la force tranquille in French, not sure if I made a good translation) - the white bear could live near the Linux penguin in some cold area In natural environments, you could hardly find animals living as far apart as polar bears and penguins. A polar bear has to swim/walk close to 15,000Km (as neither lives really on the poles, right?) to find a decent penguin. Bah, mascots. -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
Gunnar Wolf wrote: Raphael Hertzog dijo [Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:33:26PM +0100]: For an idea of a mascot, maybe you could try some sort of bear. When I created the logo of my company [1], I tried to select an animal that could remind me the strength of Debian and I selected the bear: - walks usually slowly but when it runs, you'd better not be in his way (the quiet force -- we say la force tranquille in French, not sure if I made a good translation) - the white bear could live near the Linux penguin in some cold area In natural environments, you could hardly find animals living as far apart as polar bears and penguins. A polar bear has to swim/walk close to 15,000Km (as neither lives really on the poles, right?) to find a decent penguin. Sometimes, penguins take a vacation. http://www.threadless.com/product/1057/Penguins_On_Holiday (My son has this shirt, and he loves it) Bah, mascots. Cute fuzzy shwags are nice, though. -- John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] http WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above, sbih.org ( )(:[ as apparently my cats have learned how to type. spiders.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 12:21 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: In natural environments, you could hardly find animals living as far apart as polar bears and penguins. A polar bear has to swim/walk close to 15,000Km (as neither lives really on the poles, right?) to find a decent penguin. to find a decent penguin? Could you clarify what you mean by decent here? (Also, it's a bloody mascot, who cares if they don't /really/ live in the same locations. They live in the same /climate/ and that's good enough for most people.) William signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
2008/2/25, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What? You don't have a set of Toy Story Action Figures yet? As i see on news today, sudafrica has an openning to hunt elephants again because they have so much, but some time ago there where on risk of extintion. Is not there an elephant on Toy Story Action Figures? As the huge amount of packages, architectures, documentations, translations, mail lists, ... that we have in Debian distribution makes Debian to have an _elephantastic_ size ! There is no time in one life to read all Debian information ;-) -- Héctor Orón
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
Well, now after I worked it out, you can have a look at my drafts at https://disc.alice-dsl.net . to log in use username aura_urlaub and password public. its an ant and an ant-eater as first ideas. nic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 21:19 +0100, Harald Braumann wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:45:05 +0100 Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/2/26, David Given [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lars Wirzenius wrote: I'd really rather see something nicer than an ant as a mascot. :) How about a cockroach? Beautifully engineered, indestructable, and they're *everywhere*... No thanks, I preferred the Weasel idea to this :P And why does it have to be an animal at all? I for one can't identify with any specimen of the *nix bestiary. Except maybe with the bsd daemon, but that's technically not a beast. But all those foxes, chameleons, penguins and what not -- I don't know. If an animal at all, I would definitely prefer a cockroach. But it's maybe hard to manufacture from plush. What about a tarantula? Fluffy by design. I don't really see why you couldn't make a stuffed Debian swirl. I'd buy one of those. Maybe we could call the Debian swirl our mascot and come up with some lame name like Swirly the Debian mascot. It could be like that talking paper clip they always make fun of in M$ Office. Hmm! Maybe a Debian assistant... *boing* I see you are trying to install a package, do you want help with that? William signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:45:05 +0100 Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/2/26, David Given [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lars Wirzenius wrote: I'd really rather see something nicer than an ant as a mascot. :) How about a cockroach? Beautifully engineered, indestructable, and they're *everywhere*... No thanks, I preferred the Weasel idea to this :P And why does it have to be an animal at all? I for one can't identify with any specimen of the *nix bestiary. Except maybe with the bsd daemon, but that's technically not a beast. But all those foxes, chameleons, penguins and what not -- I don't know. If an animal at all, I would definitely prefer a cockroach. But it's maybe hard to manufacture from plush. What about a tarantula? Fluffy by design. harry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
Hector Oron wrote: 2008/2/25, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What? You don't have a set of Toy Story Action Figures yet? Is not there an elephant on Toy Story Action Figures? As the huge amount of packages, architectures, documentations, translations, mail lists, ... that we have in Debian distribution makes Debian to have an _elephantastic_ size ! PostgreSQL already uses an elephant in their logo. While ths does not preclude us from using it, it could be taken as an endorsement of one particular DB engine, over others. -- John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] http WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above, sbih.org ( )(:[ as apparently my cats have learned how to type. spiders.html Disclaimer: I claim PostgreSQL is the best SQL DB we have in the archive. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 01:41:22PM -0600, William Pitcock wrote: (Also, it's a bloody mascot, who cares if they don't /really/ live in the same locations. They live in the same /climate/ and that's good enough for most people.) How about a leopard seal? They eat penguins :-| http://www.flickr.com/photos/hnmoffatt/381679738/in/set-72157594521689295/ Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
William Pitcock dijo [Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 01:41:22PM -0600]: In natural environments, you could hardly find animals living as far apart as polar bears and penguins. A polar bear has to swim/walk close to 15,000Km (as neither lives really on the poles, right?) to find a decent penguin. to find a decent penguin? Could you clarify what you mean by decent here? There are penguins living in most of the South hemisphere's coasts - Up to the Equator, in the Galapagos Islands. I would not call them decent, as they break most of our cultural myths/icons :) (Also, it's a bloody mascot, who cares if they don't /really/ live in the same locations. They live in the same /climate/ and that's good enough for most people.) I do not care for a Debian mascot. The whole thread should belong in -curiosa, FWIW... Or in /dev/null even. -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
Consider a red octopus with its arms arranged in a swirl. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 07:55:56PM +, Hector Oron wrote: 2008/2/25, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What? You don't have a set of Toy Story Action Figures yet? As i see on news today, sudafrica has an openning to hunt elephants again because they have so much, but some time ago there where on risk of extintion. Is not there an elephant on Toy Story Action Figures? As the huge amount of packages, architectures, documentations, translations, mail lists, ... that we have in Debian distribution makes Debian to have an _elephantastic_ size ! There is no time in one life to read all Debian information ;-) -- Héctor Orón Hi, I was trying to think of something interesting and this one idea: picture an elephant with a mouse sitting on the elephants head both have a swirl on them(somewhere). Now add the following text: Debian: it runs on the largest beast to the smallest HTH, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___|
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
On 2/26/08, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider a red octopus with its arms arranged in a swirl. Swirl? http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/Cucumber_Swirl.jpg http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/Swirl_by_greenvampire.jpg http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/Red_Swirl_by_gemh.jpg http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/red_and_black_swirl_by_piffin.jpg http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/through_the_swirl_by_aStormcrow.jpg http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/magick-swirl.gif But, does Debian need another logo? I don't think so. I still like a mascot: http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/Mascot_Harmony_without_Strings_by_ravenmosher.jpg Regards. -- Anibal Avelar (FixXxeR) http://fixxxer.cc GPG: 83B64656 - C143 4AD8 B017 53FA B742 D6AA CEEA F9F3 83B6 4656 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
2008/2/25, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, nic wrote: to cut the longway short: I'm iterested, but don't know how it works or how I could contribute. I don't know what needs to be explained... you don't need any special status to contribue a mascot, just find the idea, create the picture, send it to us and wait feedback. Maybe try several variants. It would be great to have a mascot!! :) Miry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2008/2/25, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, nic wrote: to cut the longway short: I'm iterested, but don't know how it works or how I could contribute. I don't know what needs to be explained... you don't need any special status to contribue a mascot, just find the idea, create the picture, send it to us and wait feedback. Maybe try several variants. It would be great to have a mascot!! :) Miry What? You don't have a set of Toy Story Action Figures yet? MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
hi together, I'm not quite sure how to properly use this debian-list (I should have read before, I know...). I spontaneously thought of an ant: It works hard, it's tough, well, and with a fat grin on its face. just a first idea: the 'debiant'. Just playing with words. I tried some rough sketches, but didn't like them. greets, nic On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:34:10 +0100 Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2008/2/25, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, nic wrote: to cut the longway short: I'm iterested, but don't know how it works or how I could contribute. I don't know what needs to be explained... you don't need any special status to contribue a mascot, just find the idea, create the picture, send it to us and wait feedback. Maybe try several variants. It would be great to have a mascot!! :) Miry What? You don't have a set of Toy Story Action Figures yet? MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
Le Monday 25 February 2008 15:58:16 nic, vous avez écrit : hi together, I'm not quite sure how to properly use this debian-list (I should have read before, I know...). I spontaneously thought of an ant: It works hard, it's tough, well, and with a fat grin on its face. just a first idea: the 'debiant'. Just playing with words. I tried some rough sketches, but didn't like them. Humm joke And why not a marmot ?? It's a nice beautifull little animal, and, according to WP, Marmots typically live in burrows, and hibernate there through the winter. Most marmots are highly social, and use loud whistles to communicate with one another, especially when alarmed. And, the most important, it is sleeping half of the time ! :-P http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Marmot-edit1.jpg /joke Romain
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
On ma, 2008-02-25 at 15:58 +0100, nic wrote: hi together, I'm not quite sure how to properly use this debian-list (I should have read before, I know...). I spontaneously thought of an ant: It works hard, it's tough, well, and with a fat grin on its face. just a first idea: the 'debiant'. Just playing with words. I tried some rough sketches, but didn't like them. I've worked for a company named after an ant hill, whose logo was an ant, and whose justification for those were that the employees were like worker ants, that is, insignificant and trivially replaceable. This did not make us employees feel at all motivated. I'd really rather see something nicer than an ant as a mascot. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
On lun, 2008-02-25 at 16:25 +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote: And why not a marmot ?? It's a nice beautifull little animal, and, according to WP, Marmots typically live in burrows, and hibernate there through the winter. Most marmots are highly social, and use loud whistles to communicate with one another, especially when alarmed. Given that our admin is already a weasel and our browser is an ice weasel, it would only be logical to use this fluffy and beautiful animal as a mascot. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-our own. Resistance is futile. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: Re: Idea of Debian mascot
hi, I tried to send 2 messages but I guess they failed because of the attached files (~ 6 mb)? so where can I put the drafts? citation below. nic hi, here are 2 drafts attached. the debi-ant and the 'ameisenbaer' (ant-eater). look at http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Anteater01.jpeg to compare. just to combine the ideas of an ant and a bear ;) greets, nic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
On lun, 2008-02-25 at 19:24 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Given that our admin is already a weasel and our browser is an ice weasel, it would only be logical to use this fluffy and beautiful animal as a mascot. And (real) foxes are great! -- Corsac signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Idea of Debian mascot
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 04:25:06PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote: Humm joke And why not a marmot ?? Screw marmots. What about a human? I would suggest this one: http://people.debian.org/~amaya/wallpapers/dsc01074.jpg -- 1KB // Microsoft corollary to Hanlon's razor: // Never attribute to stupidity what can be // adequately explained by malice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
