Re: CDBS duplicate docs installation

2008-09-17 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* William Vera [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080917 03:57]:
 2008/9/16 Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  it is probably that debhelper installs the docs (README AUTHORS
  ChangeLog TODO) in /usr/share/docs/foo and the makefile in /usr/doc/foo
  (see Makefile.am). The file names of the docs are generic enough that
  Debhelper guesses them.

 Thanks, that appears it is the problem, so I guess just need patch Makefile.am
 I'm correct?

Patching Makefile.am is usually the last thing to do. There are usually
many easier things:

* just let make do it's game and remove the files from
  debian/packagename/usr/doc afterwards.
  (Looking at what is currently at mentors, that seems to be done
  already)..

* tell make to install things elsewhere. Automake generated Makefiles files are
  usually properly parameterized, so you can just give it an additional
  argument. Sometimes you can even give that to configure.

  In this case, just call make install with argument
  docsdir=/usr/share/doc/scroot (and then tell dh_installdocs to not
  install those again at the same place with -X)

Hochachtungsvoll,
Bernhard R. Link

P.S:
your configure handling looks a bit off. You have an empty
config.status: configure which will confuse make if someone
asks for build-stamp directly, and your configure-status target
depends on patch instead of patch-stamp. (and if you name the
rule configure-stamp instead of config.status, you whould create
those file at the end).

Additionally please also set CFLAGS, otherwise your debian/rules might
do funny things when called directly and not via some dpkg-buildpackage
helper script.

And tell upstream that -O3 does not belong into INCLUDES variable...


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Re: Advice about first package building (from sources)

2008-09-17 Thread Al Nikolov
Laurent Guignard wrote:

 I have read the main documentation about pbuilder but i haven't seen if
 it is possible to build a package from upstream sources.
 In all examples, the command is like pbuilder build ???.dsc
 
 What is the correct method to build a package from upstream sources ?
 
 I thought to build a virtual host (KVM), install all packages needed,
 import all sources (upstream with all files needed to build package) and
 run the dpkg-buildpackage command...
 
 All this to keep a clean and stable Debian on my laptop ;)
 
 Is there another method and where can i found documentation ?

You do not need pbuilder for your purposes, not even chroots. What you need
is to *create* Debian source package using upstream sources. Read more at
http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/

Then, you could build and install the binary package you wanted in your own
clean and stable Debian environment. After that, you can safely remove all
build dependencies.


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Re: Advice about first package building (from sources)

2008-09-17 Thread Eric Lavarde - Debian
Hi Laurent,

Al Nikolov said:
 Laurent Guignard wrote:

 I have read the main documentation about pbuilder but i haven't seen if
 it is possible to build a package from upstream sources.
 In all examples, the command is like pbuilder build ???.dsc

 What is the correct method to build a package from upstream sources ?

 I thought to build a virtual host (KVM), install all packages needed,
 import all sources (upstream with all files needed to build package) and
 run the dpkg-buildpackage command...

 All this to keep a clean and stable Debian on my laptop ;)
I fear the answers you got might have been a bit confusing, but it's also
because it's not clear what you mean with keeping a clean and stable
Debian: only install packaged software (nothing by hand), or really not do
anything out of the normal (e.g. compiling and packaging) on your
laptop, or both.

I'm kind of a both guy, so:
- I created an unstable CHROOT jail with debootstrap and do all my
packaging in there (as suggested by Neil). For this purpose, KVM, Xen or
any VM is as good, but more heavyweight.
- I check that my packages build correctly with pbuilder (and pbuilder is
really only meant for this).
- Neither pbuilder nor debootstrap will help you to learn Debian
packaging, hence the advice from Al to read
http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/

Hope this helps, Eric

PS: I directed my answer back to you because it was not clear if you are
subscribed to Mentors.

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Re: Quilt and patches directory

2008-09-17 Thread Yavor Doganov
В Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:28:54 +0200, Michael Biebl написа:

 I didn't know that
 foo: bar baz
 will result in bar/baz run in parallel. I thought there is some kind of
 guarantee that bar is processed first.

Consider this example which illustrates that it's not a safe
assumption to make always even with non-parallel make:

cat  makefile 'EOF'
do-%: bar-% baz-%
@true

bar-%:
@echo I am first!

baz-foo:
@echo I should be second.

baz-frob:
@echo Something else.
EOF

$ make do-foo
I should be second.
I am first!

$ make -j2 do-foo
I should be second.
I am first!

$ make do-frob
Something else.
I am first!

When pattern rules come to the picture, and a pattern rule has
prerequisites which exist or are explicitly mentioned like here, they
always take precedence.  You just have to be careful.


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Re: RFS: wallpaper-tray (updated package)

2008-09-17 Thread Guido Loupias
Hey Vincent,

Thanks for all the advice.
I'm a little busy this week, I will try to look at it in the weekend.

Regards,
Guido

2008/9/12 Vincent Bernat [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 OoO En  cette nuit  nuageuse du  jeudi 21 août  2008, vers  01:10, Guido
 Loupias [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait :

  I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 0.5.5-1
  of my package wallpaper-tray.

 Hi Guido!

 You  switched to  a patch  management system.  Good point.  However, the
 patch  is  unreadable. I  suppose  that  you  needed to  rerun  autoconf
 stuff. In this case, just  patch Makefile.am or configure.ac and depends
 on autotools to generate all this stuff. This way, you keep the patch to
 the minimal size.

 You should look  at the list of the opened bugs  for this package. Maybe
 this  new upstream package  fixes some  of them.  You should  also close
 #326671.

 AUTHORS and MAINTAINERS do not  contain any new information with respect
 to debian/copyright. I think that you can safely not ship them.

 You depend  on debhelper 7 but  do not use  any feature of it.  Stick to
 debhelper 5, this will ease the work of backporters.

 I am not sure,  but since you ship a gconf schema,  you need to register
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How to remove package completely?

2008-09-17 Thread Krzysztof Burghardt
Dear Mentors,

I'd like to remove bluetooth-alsa and libsbc from Debian completely.
It was already removed (at my request) from unstable, but it is still
in Lenny. How can I remove it from Lenny? Reportbug tell me that
package does not exist when trying to request removal. Should I send
my request to release team.

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Re: How to remove package completely?

2008-09-17 Thread Paul Wise
IIRC the removals from testing should happen automatically or
semi-automatically.

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Re: How to remove package completely?

2008-09-17 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hello Krzysztof,

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 13:12, Krzysztof Burghardt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd like to remove bluetooth-alsa and libsbc from Debian completely.
 It was already removed (at my request) from unstable, but it is still
 in Lenny. How can I remove it from Lenny?

It is usually done some days after removal from unstable, in an
automatic way. Be worried if in a week or so, nothing will happen. In
that case, please contact ftp-master team in order to resolve the
situatuon.

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debian/control best practices

2008-09-17 Thread Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto
Hi mentors

I have a question, I am packaginf sitebar package wichis on
mentorsdebian.net, and have gotten a suggestion, but it got confused
me in one way, debian developeres reference talks about debian control
best practices and I understand that ( and one more person say me the
same ) that synposys must be on lower cases

http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/best-pkging-practices.html#bpp-pkg-synopsis

package-name is a synopsis.

but all the packages that I have seen was on this way

Package-name is a synopsis.

The first leeter is on uppercase

what is the right?

thanks
regards

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dbconfig-common

2008-09-17 Thread Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto
Hi mentors

I have a question, I am building the sitebar package wichis on
mentorsdebian.net, and this package has whishlist item bug #382166 who
is relationed with this lintian report
http://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I had fixed this problem on sitebar building package changing
/usr/sbin/mysql to just mysqld but, how about the bug, itsuggest to
change to dbconfig-common, then what i must do first, just correct or
change the postinst to debconfig-common


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Re: debian/control best practices

2008-09-17 Thread Daniel Watkins
Hi Carlos,

On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 07:21 -0500, Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto wrote:
 I have a question, I am packaginf sitebar package wichis on
 mentorsdebian.net, and have gotten a suggestion, but it got confused
 me in one way, debian developeres reference talks about debian control
 best practices and I understand that ( and one more person say me the
 same ) that synposys must be on lower cases
 
 http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/best-pkging-practices.html#bpp-pkg-synopsis
 
 package-name is a synopsis.
 
 but all the packages that I have seen was on this way
 
 Package-name is a synopsis.
 
 The first leeter is on uppercase
 
 what is the right?

You are only meant to write the 'synopsis' part of the sentence.  So if
the intended synopsis is Foo is a bar, then the first line of the
description in the control file would simply be bar.


Hope this helps,

Dan


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Re: dbconfig-common

2008-09-17 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi

Dne Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:29:35 -0500
Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):

 I have a question, I am building the sitebar package wichis on
 mentorsdebian.net, and this package has whishlist item bug #382166 who
 is relationed with this lintian report
 http://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I had fixed this problem on sitebar building package changing
 /usr/sbin/mysql to just mysqld but, how about the bug, itsuggest to
 change to dbconfig-common, then what i must do first, just correct or
 change the postinst to debconfig-common

Have you looked at debconfig-common docs?

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rc bug on happydoc

2008-09-17 Thread Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto
Hi mentors

I have a question, I am building the python-happydoc package wichis on
mentorsdebian.net, this package has a rc bug #497703, that refer an
incomplete debian copyright, wel it happen on upstreamer version 2.1
but was fixed on upstreamer version 3, now I am helping on python
happydoc development, but was delted from lenny and it must get back
to lenny+
my question is what must i do, fix the problem on hapydoc 2.1 o get
the upstreamer new version and fix on this new version the bug
thanks

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Re: debian/control best practices

2008-09-17 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto wrote:
 Hi mentors
 
 I have a question, I am packaginf sitebar package wichis on
 mentorsdebian.net, and have gotten a suggestion, but it got confused
 me in one way, debian developeres reference talks about debian control
 best practices and I understand that ( and one more person say me the
 same ) that synposys must be on lower cases
 
 http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/best-pkging-practices.html#bpp-pkg-synopsis
 
 package-name is a synopsis.
 
 but all the packages that I have seen was on this way
 
 Package-name is a synopsis.
 
 The first leeter is on uppercase
 
 what is the right?
IANADD

Developers Reference and lowercase.

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Re: dbconfig-common

2008-09-17 Thread Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto
2008/9/17 Michal Čihař [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi

 Dne Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:29:35 -0500
 Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):

 I have a question, I am building the sitebar package wichis on
 mentorsdebian.net, and this package has whishlist item bug #382166 who
 is relationed with this lintian report
 http://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I had fixed this problem on sitebar building package changing
 /usr/sbin/mysql to just mysqld but, how about the bug, itsuggest to
 change to dbconfig-common, then what i must do first, just correct or
 change the postinst to debconfig-common

 Have you looked at debconfig-common docs?

Yes, I do, because of it I do the question, what must I do about the
bug? I must fix it now on this version version? or just fix the
problem and fix it on the next revision


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Re: debian/control best practices

2008-09-17 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi,

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 07:21:03AM -0500, Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto wrote:
 http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/best-pkging-practices.html#bpp-pkg-synopsis
 
 package-name is a synopsis.
 
 but all the packages that I have seen was on this way
 
 Package-name is a synopsis.
 

two questions:
1) Where did you see this?

2) Why do you think its of interest how Package is written out?

You must understand that this sentence is only a help for you how the
part _after_ packagename should be. Basically it means that your
synopsis must not include Package-name is a, but if your synopsis
would be combined with this sentence it should still make sense.

Regards,
Patrick


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Re: dbconfig-common

2008-09-17 Thread Michal Čihař
Dne Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:44:35 -0500
Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):

 2008/9/17 Michal Čihař [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi
 
  Dne Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:29:35 -0500
  Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):
 
  I have a question, I am building the sitebar package wichis on
  mentorsdebian.net, and this package has whishlist item bug #382166 who
  is relationed with this lintian report
  http://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I had fixed this problem on sitebar building package changing
  /usr/sbin/mysql to just mysqld but, how about the bug, itsuggest to
  change to dbconfig-common, then what i must do first, just correct or
  change the postinst to debconfig-common
 
  Have you looked at debconfig-common docs?
 
 Yes, I do, because of it I do the question, what must I do about the
 bug? I must fix it now on this version version? or just fix the
 problem and fix it on the next revision

Just change scripts to use dbconfig-common instead of your home made
database configuration and make a new revision. Or do I miss something?

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Re: dbconfig-common

2008-09-17 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi,

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 07:29:35AM -0500, Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto wrote:
 I had fixed this problem on sitebar building package changing
 /usr/sbin/mysql to just mysqld but, how about the bug, itsuggest to
 change to dbconfig-common, then what i must do first, just correct or
 change the postinst to debconfig-common

dbconfig-common is documented fairly well. See [1] or better
(because most likely at the newested version):
Install the dbconfig-common package and have a look into
/usr/share/doc/dbconfig-common. It also includes some example packages
for the most cases.

Best Regards,
Patrick

[1]
http://people.debian.org/~seanius/policy/examples/dbconfig-common/doc/dbconfig-common-using.html


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Re: dbconfig-common

2008-09-17 Thread Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto
2008/9/17 Michal Čihař [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Dne Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:44:35 -0500
 Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):

 2008/9/17 Michal Čihař [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi
 
  Dne Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:29:35 -0500
  Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):
 
  I have a question, I am building the sitebar package wichis on
  mentorsdebian.net, and this package has whishlist item bug #382166 who
  is relationed with this lintian report
  http://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I had fixed this problem on sitebar building package changing
  /usr/sbin/mysql to just mysqld but, how about the bug, itsuggest to
  change to dbconfig-common, then what i must do first, just correct or
  change the postinst to debconfig-common
 
  Have you looked at debconfig-common docs?

 Yes, I do, because of it I do the question, what must I do about the
 bug? I must fix it now on this version version? or just fix the
 problem and fix it on the next revision

 Just change scripts to use dbconfig-common instead of your home made
 database configuration and make a new revision. Or do I miss something?

that is right, well my problem just was what must i do first, just
correct the bug and later change the script or just change the script
to makeit with dbconfig-common, no more... and honestly, I did'nt know
what mus be the way, you give a solutions

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Re: dbconfig-common

2008-09-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
 dbconfig-common is documented fairly well.

I do not agree with this statement. There are dark areas in the doc,
particularly nowhere, it's telling how to get a root user on MySQL, and
some packages might need it. Also, it's author never replied to my emails.

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Re: dbconfig-common

2008-09-17 Thread Richard Laager
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 01:00 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
  dbconfig-common is documented fairly well.
 
 I do not agree with this statement. There are dark areas in the doc,
 particularly nowhere, it's telling how to get a root user on MySQL, and
 some packages might need it.

Why would you need a root user?

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Re: dbconfig-common

2008-09-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
Richard Laager wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 01:00 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
 dbconfig-common is documented fairly well.
 I do not agree with this statement. There are dark areas in the doc,
 particularly nowhere, it's telling how to get a root user on MySQL, and
 some packages might need it.
 
 Why would you need a root user?
 
 Richard

Why do you think no app would need it? How about something that does
mysql backups, or manages MySQL accounts? I have made 2 packages that
needs that, one of them being automysqlbackup, and I had to do hackish
stuff like this:

USERNAME=`grep user /etc/mysql/debian.cnf | tail -n 1 | cut -d= -f2 |
awk '{print $1}'`

PASSWORD=`grep password /etc/mysql/debian.cnf | tail -n 1 | cut -d=
-f2 | awk '{print $1}'`

I would have happily avoid it!

Thomas


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Re: [Bulk] Re: Advice about first package building (from sources)

2008-09-17 Thread Laurent Guignard
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Eric Lavarde - Debian a écrit :
 Hi Laurent,
 
 Al Nikolov said:
 Laurent Guignard wrote:

 I have read the main documentation about pbuilder but i haven't seen if
 it is possible to build a package from upstream sources.
 In all examples, the command is like pbuilder build ???.dsc

 What is the correct method to build a package from upstream sources ?

 I thought to build a virtual host (KVM), install all packages needed,
 import all sources (upstream with all files needed to build package) and
 run the dpkg-buildpackage command...

 All this to keep a clean and stable Debian on my laptop ;)
 I fear the answers you got might have been a bit confusing, but it's also
 because it's not clear what you mean with keeping a clean and stable
 Debian: only install packaged software (nothing by hand), or really not do
 anything out of the normal (e.g. compiling and packaging) on your
 laptop, or both.
 
 I'm kind of a both guy, so:
 - I created an unstable CHROOT jail with debootstrap and do all my
 packaging in there (as suggested by Neil). For this purpose, KVM, Xen or
 any VM is as good, but more heavyweight.
 - I check that my packages build correctly with pbuilder (and pbuilder is
 really only meant for this).
 - Neither pbuilder nor debootstrap will help you to learn Debian
 packaging, hence the advice from Al to read
 http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
 
 Hope this helps, Eric
 
 PS: I directed my answer back to you because it was not clear if you are
 subscribed to Mentors.
 

Thanks for all your answers.

I'll build a chroot environment with deboostrap with unstable.
I'll have to build the new libnet1 package of David Paleino from all
files he upload on mentors.debian.net (with Debian unstable dependencies).
After, I'll can build my package from source.

It seems to be the better solution...

My words clean and stable means that I have a Debian stable and i
doesn't want to upgrade to testing or unstable, so i need a specific
environment to build package.

Thanks again.


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Re: dbconfig-common

2008-09-17 Thread Richard Laager
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 02:40 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 Why do you think no app would need it?

I never claimed this.

 How about something that does mysql backups, or manages MySQL accounts?
 I have made 2 packages that needs that, one of them being
 automysqlbackup, and I had to do hackish stuff like this:

Wouldn't you just use this:
mysqldump --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ...ARGS...

When you're talking about system-level access, the idea of
per-application database users loses most of its utility.

Richard


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RFS: swapspace (adopted and updated package)

2008-09-17 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.10-4
of my package swapspace.

It builds these binary packages:
swapspace  - dynamic swap space manager

The package is lintian -ivI-clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 499116

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/swapspace
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/swapspace/swapspace_1.10-4.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

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Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, Ukrainian C++ developer.



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RFS: cfi (adopted package)

2008-09-17 Thread Krzysztof Burghardt
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Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 3.0-8
of package cfi. I have adopted this package.

It builds these binary packages:
cfi-en - Copyright does not exist, book about hacker culture
cfi-sv - Copyright finns inte, book about hacker culture

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 488603

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/c/cfi
- - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
main contrib non-free
- - dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/c/cfi/cfi_3.0-8.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Kind regards,
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Krzysztof Burghardt
http://www.burghardt.pl/
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Best practice for package synopsis (was: debian/control best practices)

2008-09-17 Thread Ben Finney
Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I understand that ( and one more person say me the same ) that
 synposys must be on lower cases
 
 http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/best-pkging-practices.html#bpp-pkg-synopsis

More accurately, the synopsis should be written so that it makes sense
in the middle of a sentence.

 package-name is a synopsis.
 
 but all the packages that I have seen was on this way
 
 Package-name is a synopsis.

This is the example sentence. Your package description should only
contain the 'synopsis' part as its first line.

That section of the Best Packaging Practices chapter is, to my mind,
confusingly written, though I agree with its advice. I'm working with
others (slowly) on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to form a better wording.

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