Re: Install problems on 43p-150 RS/6000

2024-03-26 Thread barravince
https://groups.google.com/g/linux.debian.ports.powerpc/c/C_3lrNkFmJg I went 
through this thread and I thought it might have helped. 
 Original message From: Bill deWindt  Date: 
27/03/2024  02:18  (GMT+01:00) To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 
Install problems on 43p-150 RS/6000 Hello Adrian,On 3/26/2024 5:10 AM, John 
Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:> I can't go into the details right now due to lack 
of time, but you should> first check whether your machine is still supported by 
the Linux kernel.> > I know that IBM engineers dropped support for many of 
their own PowerPC> machines in the Linux kernel unlike Apple PowerMacs, so 
chances might be> that your machine is no longer supported and you would have 
to stick to> an older kernel.> I'll dive into researching the kernel support 
further when I have some time. I do know that 2.6 runs on it since that is what 
it is booted to under SUSE 10, so maybe I'm stuck with an older kernel but 
could migrate to an equally old Debian 3 which would at least get me off of RPM 
based systems entirely. :)> Your 43-P150 system is listed here:> >> 
https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install> > Apparently, there were 
custom installation floppy disks for this machine.> I did find the supported 
machines list and the dead links but hadn't found working links, so many thanks 
for pointing me to updated ones. This sounds virtually identical to what my 
notes from 2010 say / what I remember about getting SUSE on it in the first 
place. There were specific floppy images that you HAD to use to get the install 
going. Glad I still have actual floppy disks brand new in the box here!Looks 
like I now have my weekend project lined up for me. Thanks again!-Bill

Re: Install problems on 43p-150 RS/6000

2024-03-26 Thread Bill deWindt

Hello Adrian,

On 3/26/2024 5:10 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:


I can't go into the details right now due to lack of time, but you should
first check whether your machine is still supported by the Linux kernel.

I know that IBM engineers dropped support for many of their own PowerPC
machines in the Linux kernel unlike Apple PowerMacs, so chances might be
that your machine is no longer supported and you would have to stick to
an older kernel.



I'll dive into researching the kernel support further when I have some 
time. I do know that 2.6 runs on it since that is what it is booted to 
under SUSE 10, so maybe I'm stuck with an older kernel but could migrate 
to an equally old Debian 3 which would at least get me off of RPM based 
systems entirely. :)




Your 43-P150 system is listed here:


https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install


Apparently, there were custom installation floppy disks for this machine.



I did find the supported machines list and the dead links but hadn't 
found working links, so many thanks for pointing me to updated ones. 
This sounds virtually identical to what my notes from 2010 say / what I 
remember about getting SUSE on it in the first place. There were 
specific floppy images that you HAD to use to get the install going. 
Glad I still have actual floppy disks brand new in the box here!


Looks like I now have my weekend project lined up for me. Thanks again!

-Bill



Re: Install problems on 43p-150 RS/6000

2024-03-26 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Adrian, Bill,

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 10:01 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
 wrote:
> Your 43-P150 system is listed here:
>
> > https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install
>
> Apparently, there were custom installation floppy disks for this machine.
>
> Since the link above 404s, you have to download them from the archive server:
>
> > http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/current/chrp/
>
> The page also links to a 404 page by Geert Uytterhoven who apparently once had
> such a system:
>
> > https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035302/http://users.telenet.be/geertu/Linux/PPC/
>
> I'm CC'ing him since he might be able to give you some hints.

While I did have a CHRP system, it was a LongTrail, not a 43P-150.
The "Development History" part doesn't mention that I ran Debian,
but I did.  Probably some manual installation, in the late nineties...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- ge...@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds



Re: Install problems on 43p-150 RS/6000

2024-03-26 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Bill,

On Mon, 2024-03-25 at 21:08 -0400, Bill deWindt wrote:
> Please bear with me as this is my first post the powerpc group, but I am 
> pretty sure I am in the right place for this. :)

You are.

> After recently purchasing a NOS Sparc Ultra 5 and having great success 
> getting Sid running on it after much work and reading on 
> linux.debian.ports.sparc I decided to try and get Debian running on the 
> RS/6000 43p-150 machine I have in my collection. I originally purchased 
> the machine from a hospital back in 2008 or 09 for $20 and after a great 
> deal of sweat and tears I managed to get openSUSE 10.3 ppc running on 
> it. It has been like that since 2010 and I haven't use it since about 
> 2012, but if I could get Debian running on it I might have a use for it. 
> So, after doing the usual Googling and reading everything I could find 
> about this machine and why I had such trouble getting anything other 
> than AIX and openSUSE running on it I find myself here asking for any 
> assistance or guidance. So let me start with what I have tried to date 
> and what the results were (some are virtually identical to posts I found 
> from the early 2000's but I hoped some things had changed since then...)

I can't go into the details right now due to lack of time, but you should
first check whether your machine is still supported by the Linux kernel.

I know that IBM engineers dropped support for many of their own PowerPC
machines in the Linux kernel unlike Apple PowerMacs, so chances might be
that your machine is no longer supported and you would have to stick to
an older kernel.

Your 43-P150 system is listed here:

> https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install

Apparently, there were custom installation floppy disks for this machine.

Since the link above 404s, you have to download them from the archive server:

> http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/current/chrp/

The page also links to a 404 page by Geert Uytterhoven who apparently once had
such a system:

> https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035302/http://users.telenet.be/geertu/Linux/PPC/

I'm CC'ing him since he might be able to give you some hints.

Adrian

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