RFC/RFS: python-enchant -- spellchecking library for Python

2006-04-12 Thread Piotr Ozarowski
I'm looking for a sponsor for python-enchant (ITP #299783).
Package is lintian/linda clean and builds in pbuilder.

* Package name: python-enchant
  Version : 1.1.5
  Upstream Author : Ryan Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://pyenchant.sourceforge.net/
* License : LGPL with a special exception to link to non-free
spell checker backend (e.g. Microsoft Office
spell checker)
  Description : spellchecking library for Python
 
PyEnchant consists of Python binding to Enchant spellchecking
library and some wrapper classes. It includes all the functionality
of Enchant in Pythonic object-oriented interface, and also provides
some higher-level functionality than is available in the C API.


I have also updated my gaupol package, so now it recommends
python2.4-enchant

Both packages can be downloaded from: http://debian.pox.one.pl/

BTW: I have permission to take over from Seo Sanghyeon
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Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-12 Thread Matthias Klose
Jeroen van Wolffelaar writes:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 12:41:13AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > So, because there were no objections to the python 2.1/2.2 removal,
> > I'll be proceeding with that.
> 
> Done now, I'd like to announce this, together with some warning about
> default python version changes, if they're going to happen soon (best to
> not to have multiple separate announcements if they can be joined).
> It'll be a bit (about 24h) before a dropped python2.1 & python2.2 will
> reach the mirrors, and impact should be reasonably limited, so otoh, it
> isn't totally required.
> 
> So, any opinion on the -defaults change, esp. from Matthias of course,
> is very welcomed.

ok, I did run out of time last weekend, however python2.5,
python2.3-doc, python2.4-doc are in NEW. According your logic about
vacation times, the change of the default version probably should not
be done before Easter.

Unfortunately FTP masters did reject the Zope2.x upload, which uses
python2.4. Any reasons for that? Zope2.7 already was scheduled for
removal.

  Matthias


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Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
> ok, I did run out of time last weekend, however python2.5,
> python2.3-doc, python2.4-doc are in NEW. According your logic about
> vacation times, the change of the default version probably should not
> be done before Easter.

Easter is 4 days or a full week for some: nothing problematic. Please go
ahead with the python 2.4 change ASAP.

> Unfortunately FTP masters did reject the Zope2.x upload, which uses
> python2.4. Any reasons for that? Zope2.7 already was scheduled for
> removal.

I'm not ftpmaster so I can't comment, but usually they give a reason in
the rejection notice... what did it say ?

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python-mysqldb in the Maintaince team

2006-04-12 Thread Jonas Meurer
hello,

i like the idea of a python modules packaging team, thus i'dd like to
add python-mysqldb to the svn repository and co-maintain it within the
team.

please add me (mejo) to the alioth project.

...
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Please add me to Python Modules Team

2006-04-12 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal

Hi,

I currently maintain clientcookie, fixedpoint and ctypes python packages. I
am not subscribed to debian-python list but I am already subscribed to the
corresponding newsgroup in gmane.

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Re: Please add me to Python Modules Team

2006-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote:
> I currently maintain clientcookie, fixedpoint and ctypes python packages. I
> am not subscribed to debian-python list but I am already subscribed to the
> corresponding newsgroup in gmane.

User "rganesan" has been added to the project. You will have commit rights
tomorrow.

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Re: python-mysqldb in the Maintaince team

2006-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> i like the idea of a python modules packaging team, thus i'dd like to
> add python-mysqldb to the svn repository and co-maintain it within the
> team.
> 
> please add me (mejo) to the alioth project.

Done. You will have commit rights tomorrow.
Welcome to the group!

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Modules Team

2006-04-12 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
Hi,

I'm maintaining ipython, and I'd like the idea of a Python Modules
Team. Please add me (nobse) to the project on alioth.

Norbert


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Re: Modules Team

2006-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Norbert Tretkowski wrote:
> I'm maintaining ipython, and I'd like the idea of a Python Modules
> Team. Please add me (nobse) to the project on alioth.

Done. You will have commit rights tomorrow.
Welcome to the group!

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how to make python package binNMU-safe [Bug#361940: python-mysqldb: can't be binNMUed due to arch: all -> arch: any dep]

2006-04-12 Thread Jonas Meurer
hello,

i got the following bugreport, and i'm not sure about the best way to fix
it. the problem is obvious: python-mysqldb depends on python2.3-mysqldb
(= 1.2.1c3-6), but after a binNMU of python2.3-mysqldb it is version
1.2.1c3-6+b1.

so three solutions spring into my mind:
- relax the dependency to python2.3-mysqldb (= 1.2.1c3)
- relax the dependency to python2.3-mysqldb (>= 1.2.1c3-6)
- drop pythonX.Y-mysqldb packages, provide one python-mysqldb package
  for all python versions. i'm not sure whether this is possible at all.

the first solution would negate the intension of the python-mysqldb
transitional package. but that's somehow true for the second solution as
well.

so what do you suggest?

...
 jonas
 
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 03:17:50 -0700
From: Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bug#361940: python-mysqldb: can't be binNMUed due to arch: all -> 
arch: any dep
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Package: python-mysqldb
Version: 1.2.1c3-6
Severity: grave

The python-mysqldb package is uninstallable in unstable because
python-mysqldb was binNMUed for the mysqlclient ABI change, and
python-mysqldb, an arch: all package, has a dependency on 
python2.3-mysqldb (= 1.2.1c3-6) which no longer exists.

Arch: all -> Arch: any strict versioned dependencies are fundamentally
incompatible with binNMUs.  Please either make a single arch: any
python-mysqldb package that Provides: python2.3-mysqldb, or relax the
dependency so it can be satisfied by +b1 ... +bN versions of the package.

Either way, python-mysqldb currently needs a sourceful upload for the
libmysqlclient transition.

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Re: New python maintenance team

2006-04-12 Thread Bob Tanner
Raphael Hertzog wrote:

> But I would really like turbogears maintained within "python-modules"
> since it's mainly good glue between several general-purpose Python
> modules.
> 
> (But it's up to you in the end.)

Let's merge the projects.

There is only 3 of us and I think it would be best to be part of a large
project.


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Re: New python maintenance team

2006-04-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 4/12/06, Bob Tanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> > But I would really like turbogears maintained within "python-modules"
> > since it's mainly good glue between several general-purpose Python
> > modules.
> >
> > (But it's up to you in the end.)
>
> Let's merge the projects.
>
> There is only 3 of us and I think it would be best to be part of a large
> project.

[ kov: Please read the thread starting at:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2006/04/msg1.html ]

Hi Bob,

I see pkg-turbogears' svn repository and there's just cherrypy there.
I think it's kov work, so i would like to hear his feedback on our
merge proposal.

Since you agreed, if he give us ok we can add you, kov and Frederik
(stone) to python-modules group and it will be just a matter of move
cherrypy to our svn repository and remove pkg-turbogears from alioth.

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Re: how to make python package binNMU-safe [Bug#361940: python-mysqldb: can't be binNMUed due to arch: all -> arch: any dep]

2006-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

We discussed that on IRC, I'll just post a quick summary:

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> i got the following bugreport, and i'm not sure about the best way to fix
> it. the problem is obvious: python-mysqldb depends on python2.3-mysqldb
> (= 1.2.1c3-6), but after a binNMU of python2.3-mysqldb it is version
> 1.2.1c3-6+b1.
> 
> so three solutions spring into my mind:
> - relax the dependency to python2.3-mysqldb (>= 1.2.1c3-6)

Or simply depend on python2.3-mysqldb (without any version specified). The
main point of the dependency is to install python2.4-mysql automatically
when python2.4 will become the default version. The goal is not to ensure
that the latest version of the corresponding package is installed since an
upgrade will upgrade both at the same time anyway.

> - drop pythonX.Y-mysqldb packages, provide one python-mysqldb package
>   for all python versions. i'm not sure whether this is possible at all.

Not sure... and the python policy is kind of "not finished". But it seems
to make sense for me for some very small modules.

http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ch-module_packages.html#s-all_versions

The policy says it's "not yet supported" and describes this the follwing
way:

 You have a version independent Python module. Create a single package
 python-foo that has a dependency

  Depends: python

 It should install modules somewhere inside
 /usr/lib/python/site-packages/ and use #!/usr/bin/python for
 programs. The postinst script should create symlinks in all
 /usr/lib/pythonX.Y/site-packages/ directories that point to its
 /usr/lib/python/site-packages/ files and compile them. 

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Re: New python maintenance team

2006-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Bob Tanner wrote:
> > But I would really like turbogears maintained within "python-modules"
> > since it's mainly good glue between several general-purpose Python
> > modules.
> > 
> > (But it's up to you in the end.)
> 
> Let's merge the projects.
> 
> There is only 3 of us and I think it would be best to be part of a large
> project.

Indeed. I added the 3 members of pkg-turbogears in the python-modules
alioth project. Let's go for it!

(Please request the removal of pkg-turbogears on alioth once you don't
need it any more)

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Re: how to make python package binNMU-safe [Bug#361940: python-mysqldb: can't be binNMUed due to arch: all -> arch: any dep]

2006-04-12 Thread Sanghyeon Seo
Jonas Meurer wrote:
> - drop pythonX.Y-mysqldb packages, provide one python-mysqldb package
>   for all python versions. i'm not sure whether this is possible at all.

Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Not sure... and the python policy is kind of "not finished". But it seems
> to make sense for me for some very small modules.
>
> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ch-module_packages.html#s-all_versions
>
> The policy says it's "not yet supported" and describes this the follwing
> way:
>
>  You have a version independent Python module. Create a single package
>  python-foo that has a dependency
>
>   Depends: python
>
>  It should install modules somewhere inside
>  /usr/lib/python/site-packages/ and use #!/usr/bin/python for
>  programs. The postinst script should create symlinks in all
>  /usr/lib/pythonX.Y/site-packages/ directories that point to its
>  /usr/lib/python/site-packages/ files and compile them.

You can do this with python-support today. See python-cherrypy package
for an example.

Depends: python (>= 2.3), python (<< 2.5)
Declare the minimum supported Python version.

Package installs to /usr/share/python-support/$PACKAGENAME.
postinst calls update-python-modules, which will bytecompile Python
sources to /var/lib/python-support/$PYTHONVERSION for each Python
versions installed. Instead of symlinking, python-support.pth, path
configuration files are placed by python-support package, which extends
Python's module search path.

Path configuration file is documented here:
http://docs.python.org/lib/module-site.html

Seo Sanghyeon



Re: how to make python package binNMU-safe [Bug#361940: python-mysqldb: can't be binNMUed due to arch: all -> arch: any dep]

2006-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Sanghyeon Seo wrote:
> >  It should install modules somewhere inside
> >  /usr/lib/python/site-packages/ and use #!/usr/bin/python for
> >  programs. The postinst script should create symlinks in all
> >  /usr/lib/pythonX.Y/site-packages/ directories that point to its
> >  /usr/lib/python/site-packages/ files and compile them.
> 
> You can do this with python-support today. See python-cherrypy package
> for an example.

Interesting, but I think this will not work "out of the box" for packages
that should provide Python eggs. 

I just checked python-cherrypy and I noticed that it only provides
/usr/share/python-support/cherrypy/CherryPy-2.1.1-py2.3.egg-info
(there's no egg for python 2.4 version). It should provide both.

Any idea on how to nicely fix that ?

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Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-12 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 04:33:35PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Jeroen van Wolffelaar writes:
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 12:41:13AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > > So, because there were no objections to the python 2.1/2.2 removal,
> > > I'll be proceeding with that.
> > 
> > Done now, I'd like to announce this, together with some warning about
> > default python version changes, if they're going to happen soon (best to
> > not to have multiple separate announcements if they can be joined).
> > It'll be a bit (about 24h) before a dropped python2.1 & python2.2 will
> > reach the mirrors, and impact should be reasonably limited, so otoh, it
> > isn't totally required.
> > 
> > So, any opinion on the -defaults change, esp. from Matthias of course,
> > is very welcomed.
> 
> ok, I did run out of time last weekend, however python2.5,
> python2.3-doc, python2.4-doc are in NEW.

Cool

> According your logic about vacation times, the change of the default
> version probably should not be done before Easter.

I don't know, while some people (including, at least, myself) will be
unavailable during Easter to do any Debian work, others might rather
have lots of time because of it being a holiday and no daytime job being
in the way. Having this change done before easter will leverage both
groups of people.

But I don't care about the exact timing, but I do think we should really
do this sooner rather than later, to get things going. Therefore, I'd
like to urge you to simply do the move, and have anyone interested help
out fixing up all the packages that get broken by it and need an update.

> Unfortunately FTP masters did reject the Zope2.x upload, which uses
> python2.4. Any reasons for that? Zope2.7 already was scheduled for
> removal.

Can you please be more specific? And/or reply to the REJECT mail, as it
states at the bottom of every reject? That way, all the info is at hand
for us ftp-people to look into it. I can't find any NEW reject for
zope2.anything during the whole of 2006. At least listing the exact
filename of the .changes is already very useful to find the upload
you're talking about.

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Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-12 Thread Matthias Klose
Jeroen van Wolffelaar writes:
> > Unfortunately FTP masters did reject the Zope2.x upload, which uses
> > python2.4. Any reasons for that? Zope2.7 already was scheduled for
> > removal.
> 
> Can you please be more specific? And/or reply to the REJECT mail, as it
> states at the bottom of every reject? That way, all the info is at hand
> for us ftp-people to look into it. I can't find any NEW reject for
> zope2.anything during the whole of 2006. At least listing the exact
> filename of the .changes is already very useful to find the upload
> you're talking about.

CC'ing Fabio, AFAIK that was a zope2.9 upload. Maybe it would be
better, if FTP masters send the reject mail to the Maintainer address,
not the uploader address?

  Matthias


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Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-12 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 10:32:28PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Jeroen van Wolffelaar writes:
> > > Unfortunately FTP masters did reject the Zope2.x upload, which uses
> > > python2.4. Any reasons for that? Zope2.7 already was scheduled for
> > > removal.
> > 
> > Can you please be more specific? And/or reply to the REJECT mail, as it
> > states at the bottom of every reject? That way, all the info is at hand
> > for us ftp-people to look into it. I can't find any NEW reject for
> > zope2.anything during the whole of 2006. At least listing the exact
> > filename of the .changes is already very useful to find the upload
> > you're talking about.
> 
> CC'ing Fabio, AFAIK that was a zope2.9 upload. Maybe it would be
> better, if FTP masters send the reject mail to the Maintainer address,
> not the uploader address?

zope2.9 is simply still sitting in NEW, and is not rejected. I see there
was a clarification requested over the weekend about the big number of
zope versions in the archive (2.9 would be the 4th), and Fabio replied.
This was two days ago, nothing happened since as far as I can see, so
I'd advice to just wait a bit. Fwiw, I don't see a zope2.7 removal
request yet, but maybe I'm looking wrongly?

About who to inform, typically there isn't a maintainer yet for packages
in NEW, so it's a bit tricky. The actual maintainer is only available
after a package is installed, because it's not in the .changes. In most
cases it doesn't matter (uploader & maintainer same person), so while I
agree better notification might be worthwhile, it's also not terribly
high on my list of things to look into.

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Re: New python maintenance team

2006-04-12 Thread Bob Tanner
Raphael Hertzog wrote:

> (Please request the removal of pkg-turbogears on alioth once you don't
> need it any more)
> 

Waiting on confirmation and then I'll submit the remove request.
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Re: New python maintenance team

2006-04-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 4/12/06, Bob Tanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> > (Please request the removal of pkg-turbogears on alioth once you don't
> > need it any more)
> >
>
> Waiting on confirmation and then I'll submit the remove request.

Please, move cherrypy from pkg-turbogears svn repository first. :-)

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Joining the python modules team

2006-04-12 Thread Jan Lübbe
Hi!

I'm currently in the NM-Process and maintain the packages python-pysnmp2
and pida. I'd like to join the python-modules team to help with
comaintaining the packages.

My alioth login is jluebbe-guest.

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Joining the Python modules team

2006-04-12 Thread Torsten Marek
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I'd like to join, too. Please add my account (shlomme).
I bring in ElementTree, cElementTree and ElementTidy (currently in the NEW 
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best,

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Re: Joining the Python modules team

2006-04-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 4/12/06, Torsten Marek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to join, too. Please add my account (shlomme).
> I bring in ElementTree, cElementTree and ElementTidy (currently in the NEW 
> queue).
>

Hi Torsten,

Welcome to the python-modules! I've added you on the group at alioth.
Any doubt or suggestion, ask us here.

Thanks,
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Re: Joining the python modules team

2006-04-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 4/12/06, Jan Lübbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm currently in the NM-Process and maintain the packages python-pysnmp2
> and pida. I'd like to join the python-modules team to help with
> comaintaining the packages.
>
> My alioth login is jluebbe-guest.
>

Hi Jan,

Welcome to the python-modules! You've svn commit access, so you're
free to upload the packages you're maintaining to our repository. Read
our policy, and if you've doubts or suggestions post it here or
contact us at irc.oftc.net - #debian-python.

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Re: Debian Python modules team

2006-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Morten Werner Olsen wrote:
> First thanks for a great initiative! I would like to maintain my three
> python packages (forgethtml, forgetsql and ipy) as a part of this
> team. Can you please add me to the Alioth-project?

Done yesterday already (but I forgot to reply :)).
You should have commit access to the repository.

Welcome to the group!

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Re: Join the Debian Python Modules Team

2006-04-12 Thread linux
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Hi list

2006-04-12 Thread Wolfgang Lonien
Hello Gustavo, hello debian-python list,

I just subscribed to this mailing list. I'm a newbie and have to learn.
I'm about to package zenoss (see Bug#361253) for Debian, which will lead
to the packaging of several other software/libraries first (like
AuthTransport.py, DCOracle2, TwistedSNMP, and python-sybase, where I
will probably take over some previous work from mpalmer.

Ok; just wanted to introduce myself a bit.
cheers,
wjl aka Wolfgang Lonien
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joining the list

2006-04-12 Thread Loic Dachary

I maintain poker-engine, poker-network, pypoker-eval and would
like to join the team.

Thanks,

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Re: joining the list

2006-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Loic Dachary wrote:
> I maintain poker-engine, poker-network, pypoker-eval and would
> like to join the team.

Hi Loic,

you have been added to the Alioth project (login "loic"). You should have
commit rights tomorrow.

Welcome to the group!

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Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-12 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 22:58 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> zope2.9 is simply still sitting in NEW, and is not rejected. I see there
> was a clarification requested over the weekend about the big number of
> zope versions in the archive (2.9 would be the 4th), and Fabio replied.
> This was two days ago, nothing happened since as far as I can see, so
> I'd advice to just wait a bit. Fwiw, I don't see a zope2.7 removal
> request yet, but maybe I'm looking wrongly?

We are working on this, but before filing a zope2.7 request we need to
check what packages are incompatible with zope >= 2.8 and *then* ask for
the removal of zope2.7.

In the end, in a few days I'll file the removal request of zope2.7 and
(I hope) ftp-masters will accept zope2.9 package.

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