Re: [Fwd: Virus Alert]

1996-08-17 Thread Joshua Stockwell
I don't think you have anything to worry about. You just fell victim
to one of the most perpetuated practical jokes on the internet. :))

-Josh Stockwell



Re: [Fwd: Virus Alert]

1996-08-17 Thread Brian Hutchinson
I called the number listed in this message it this is a joke!

The statement about the tight loop that could damage your processor 
should be a dead give-away!

Check these things out in the future before spreading them!

Thanks,


Brian

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Re: [Fwd: Virus Alert]

1996-08-17 Thread Robbie Honerkamp
 
 I remember reading about this several months ago. It was the opinion
 of most people at the time to be just a joke. Anyone know for sure
 if it is anything other than a joke?

Not true. You can't get a virus from reading an email message.

Notice that the original post came from AOL.. :)

Robbie
(who wonders how many people deleted this message in fear when they 
saw the Subject: line..)



Re: [Fwd: Virus Alert]

1996-08-17 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Eck) writes:

 I remember reading about this several months ago. It was the opinion
 of most people at the time to be just a joke. Anyone know for sure
 if it is anything other than a joke?

Well, I'd like to see the code for the infinite loop that'd melt down
my processor.  I've written a few in my time (accidentally), and the
machine's still here.

I think this is probably a joke.  I actually have received a GOOD
TIMES message, actually got one a couple of times, way back when I
used AOL (feel free to flame, it was pre-linux for me, too).  Anyway,
the message was a virus in some sense, but it required active
participation.  It was a message saying that it had been around the
world X number of times and that anyone who would do what it said and
continue the pyramid, tacking on their own name, would get great
wealth and voodoo luck.  If you failed to do this in Y number of days,
all manner of evil catastrophies would befall you.

I ignored it with no ill effects at the specified instance of doom.

--
Rob



Good Times

1996-08-17 Thread Charles A. Schuman

Re: Virus, Internet:  Good Times

On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Terry Eck wrote:

 I remember reading about this several months ago. It was the opinion
 of most people at the time to be just a joke. Anyone know for sure
 if it is anything other than a joke?
 Terry

Either it is an obvious joke or now you have the virus.



Re: Where can I ftp pcmcia package

1996-08-17 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Eddie --
You can get the Debian pcmcia package from any Debian mirror.  

   ftp.caldera.com:/pub/mirrors/debian
is close to UCLA.
When you get there (i.e., when you get to pub/mirrors/debian, 
which is where Caldera puts the Debian distribution -- this top level 
directory is different on different mirrors), look in the directory 
   rex/binary-i386/admin
for the pcm* files.

It's not clear from your message that you are using a Debian system.
You'll need one to unpack the .deb files.  If you don't have a Debian
system, you may prefer to fetch the sources from rex/source/admin,
and then compile them yourself.

If this isn't clear, let me know and I'll try to give you more help;
however, I don't use the pcm* files myself, so I can't be much help on
that score.

Good luck,
Susan Kleinmann



Where can I get dpkg-ftp other than the install disks?!

1996-08-17 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser

Hi folks.

I just returned to a pre-1.1 beta PC which has an early verion
of the ELF system.  Here's my problem.  I want to update it via
dpkg-ftp, but I can't find dpkg-ftp!  I presume that it has been
incorporated into the base disks.  How to I get it onto my system
without messing with my configuration?

Thanks.  Syrus.


--
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Re: exmh and Xauthority

1996-08-17 Thread Maarten Boekhold
  I seem to have a problem with exmh (or X). When I start exmh I get a string
  of
  
  BGRegister insecure server (must run old style xauth). Command ignored.
  
  I think I understand what is happening: my X server is not generating
  the ~/.Xauthority file needed to run secure and exmh complains. But I
  haven't been able to fix this problem.
 
 The simplier way is to use xdm.
 Alternately, you can create the cookie by yourself if you want to use startx. 
 I've got a small program (20 lines of C) that generates such cookies. Email 
 if you want it.

I have a much smpler setup, using a .xserverrc file. It's about 6 lines. 
Similar, mail me (or on the list) if somebody wants this (don't have it 
on this site, so can't include it here, besides, while I'm typing this, 
I'm loaded, this took me about 3 minutes to type :).

Maarten

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Re: RAID in Linux (was Re: SCSI and EIDE)

1996-08-17 Thread Rob Browning
Ricardo Kleemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Few questions:
 1. can raid0/raid1 be done on either scsi or ide or both?

The linux md driver is software, so it doesn't care what the
underlying block device technology is.  You just give it block-device
partitions to turn into a RAID device.  These partitions can (at the
least) be on SCSI or IDE devices.  It dosnt' matter to the md driver.

 2. what's the difference between raid0 and raid1?

From /usr/doc/mdutils/README:

 Raid0 does a classic (and rather efficient) striping on disks
 (i.e. contiguous blocks on the md device are spread across real
 devices).  It gives rather good performances on SCSI disks, specially
 with concurrent disk access.  There's no limitation on disks sizes
 (i.e. sizes can be different, md will cope with this).
 
 Raid1 adds mirroring to raid0 striping.  Note that it is not complete
 yet (no rebuild tools, error trapping is incomplete).  It's also known
 to be rather slow when writing. 

From the same source:

 Since MD pre0.31, RAID-[15] have been removed from the main
 distribution, because of pathological unstability... and for the
 kernel integration of linear and RAID-0 modes.

 4. How does one go about creating an md device? Would it automatically 
 mirror a non-md drive into the multiple devices?

Get the debian mdutils package install it, and read the docs.

--
Rob



PCMCIA package that uses kernel 2.0.6 not 2.0.7 (was Re: Where can I ftp pcmcia package

1996-08-17 Thread EDWARD FORREST URENDA
I have kerne 2.0.6 though and it expects kernel 2.0.7.  Where can I find 
a version that expects version 2.0.6 of the kernel.  If this is not 
possible, how hard is it to upgrade my kernel ?

Eddie Urenda


On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote:

 Hi Eddie --
 You can get the Debian pcmcia package from any Debian mirror.  
 
ftp.caldera.com:/pub/mirrors/debian
 is close to UCLA.
 When you get there (i.e., when you get to pub/mirrors/debian, 
 which is where Caldera puts the Debian distribution -- this top level 
 directory is different on different mirrors), look in the directory 
rex/binary-i386/admin
 for the pcm* files.
 
 It's not clear from your message that you are using a Debian system.
 You'll need one to unpack the .deb files.  If you don't have a Debian
 system, you may prefer to fetch the sources from rex/source/admin,
 and then compile them yourself.
 
 If this isn't clear, let me know and I'll try to give you more help;
 however, I don't use the pcm* files myself, so I can't be much help on
 that score.
 
 Good luck,
 Susan Kleinmann
 



where to find older pcmcia that uses 2.0.6 kernel

1996-08-17 Thread EDWARD FORREST URENDA
is there a record of pcmcia packages that use 2.0.6 kernel.  the new one 
expects the 2.0.7 kernel and I need the older one.  

should I just upgrade my kernel?  is this hard to to?

Eddie Urenda





libwww-perl installation incomplete

1996-08-17 Thread Bill Wohler
  I downloaded checkbot http://dutifp.twi.tudelft.nl:8000/checkbot/
  which is used to verify links in Web pages, but the current version
  of the libwww-perl package:
  
libwww-perl  none  5.00-1

  is incomplete.  In particular, it does not install the HTML
  sub-package.  Running checkbot reveals and undefined reference to
  the HTML methods (unfortunately, I no longer have the error
  message).  Could this be user headroom on my part or shall I submit
  a bug report?  After obtaining the sources to libwww-perl and
  installing, I got past the errors above (although now it's dying
  from an internal bug--sigh).

  Is anyone out there familiar with checkbot?  Or do you use a better
  link-checker?

Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED]   ph: +1-415-854-1857  fax: +1-415-854-3195
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Re: libwww-perl installation incomplete

1996-08-17 Thread Rob Browning
Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   the current version of the libwww-perl package is incomplete.  In
   particular, it does not install the HTML sub-package.  After
   obtaining the sources to libwww-perl and installing, I got past
   the errors above.

Hmm.  So did you have to do anything special when you built
libwww-perl to get this sub-package, and did you do this with the real
upstream sources, or the debian source package?

   Could this be user headroom on my part or shall I submit a bug
   report?

This sounds like a bug to me.  Go ahead and submit a bug report so I
don't forget to look in to it.

Thanks
--
Rob



NT and Linux

1996-08-17 Thread Bill Wohler
[cc'd to debian-user since this info may help someone else.]

Joe Russack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 (I'll be running NT in a few weeks, when the full release comes out. 
  If you feel like typing up the info, that might be nice, but it's
  not critical yet...)

  I'll save you a few days of aggravation.  If you're in the Silicon
  Valley area sometime you can buy me a beer ;-).

  Under no circumstances run NT's disk administrator to format
  partitions.  It asks if it can write a signature which will cause
  absolutely no harm.  When it did this, it hosed the partition table
  and neither NT nor Linux booted afterwards.  Therefore, you'll
  probably be limited to one FAT NT partition unless NT 4.0 fixed
  these things.  Also remember that even if you do get the Disk
  Administrator to work, you'll want at least one small FAT partition
  to use as a staging area for exchanging files between Linux and NT.

  If I read my notes right, the following is a fine distillation of
  many days and nights of pulling out my hair to get things working:

  1. Install Linux (hold off on installing everything until you win
  the Linux/NT battle).  Do all your disk partitioning in Linux,
  including your NT partition (make it FAT).  I was not successful at
  making more than one NT partition.  I also made it the first
  partition, but I don't know if that is essential or not.
  
  2. Add the linear flag to /etc/lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/sda (I
  was not successful at installing LILO on the Linux
  partition--/dev/sda3 in my case) and run lilo.  I may have had to
  use ignore-table along the way.  See also fix-table.  The LILO
  HOWTO is your friend.  You'll have to use the editor ae.  You'll
  live.

  3. Save the MBR with this: dd if=/dev/sda of=/floppy/MBR bs=512 count=1
  Use a floppy. Trust me.  Also do this each time you change the disk
  partition table.
  
  4. Install NT, part 1.  When it goes to reboot halfway through the
  process you'll boot into Linux.
  
  5. Add NT stanza to /etc/lilo.conf, e.g.:
  
other=/dev/sda1
label=NT
table=/dev/sda

   and run lilo.
  
  6. Reboot, select NT from LILO, and finish NT install.  You'll need
  the Boot Disk XU, HP Vectra AIC 7880 Driver A.01.02 floppy to
  install the ethernet drivers and the XU/VT Drivers and
  Documentation CD (directory video/disk4 if a recall correctly) to
  install the video drivers for the Matrox MGA Millennium.
  
  7. Back to Linux, run fdisk and ensure you don't get partition
  doesn't end on cylinder boundary on your Linux partitions.  You'll
  still have this error on the NT partition though, but this seems to
  be OK.
  
/dev/sda111  322   3293016  DOS 16-bit =32M
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(321, 39, 9) should be (321, 63, 32)

  Cfdisk reports strangeness, but it seems OK:

Unusable  0.04*
   /dev/sda1 PrimaryDOS 16-bit =32Mb   321.59*
Unusable  0.39*

  If you do get the cylinder boundary warning, you'll need that MBR
  you saved previously.  Clear and restore the MBR (but not the
  signature) with:

  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
  dd if=/floppy/MBR of=/dev/sda bs=510 count=1

  8.  Install the rest of Linux.  Easy, huh?

  If you have problems trying to get NT to write the MBR instead of
  LILO, you may have to resort to the following to clear the MBR
  first:
  
  a) dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 (in Linux) or perform
 a low-level format with the SCSI utilities.  I've heard that a
 low-level format of an IDE disk is fatal, so don't do it.
  b) fdisk /mbr (you've obviously already created a DOS boot disk that
 contains fdisk).
  c) delete NT partition and create it again in NT install.
  d) continue with NT install.

  Other details: Debian Linux 1.1, Linux 2.0.0, HP Vectra XU 6/150,
  Adaptec AIC 7880 Ultra (BIOS 1.2S-HP), Quantum Fireball 1080S,
  Phoenix compatibility BIOS GG.06.02.  NT 3.5.1.
  
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Re: [Fwd: Virus Alert]

1996-08-17 Thread renald loignon
Not true. You can't get a virus from reading an email message.

Notice that the original post came from AOL.. :)

O... Cheap shot!   ;-)

Robbie
(who wonders how many people deleted this message in fear when they 
saw the Subject: line..)

We... the subject didn't contain Good Times after all...




Re: [Fwd: Virus Alert]

1996-08-17 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Robbie Honerkamp:
 Not true. You can't get a virus from reading an email message.

Not true. The Good Times virus is a hoax, but it is possible to get a virus
from e-mail, in some circumstances.

Some e-mail systems allow the sender to tag the contents as being plain
text, HTML, C source code, a shell script, and so on. This is not something
that MIME invented -- it existed well before MIME. It's a good thing, since
it allows programs to handle mail more intelligently.

However, stupid people can also write mail user programs that automatically
run a program that comes in e-mail. Even more stupid people use such 
programs. For example, I've seen a procmail rule that was essentially 
like this:

:0
* ^Subject: runme
| sed '1,/^$/d' | sh

For those who don't understand procmail's syntax, this takes every letter
that has runme in the subject and runs its body as shell commands.
Very, very dangerous.

I've been told that some Windows mail programs have something similar
built in (if you receive a Word document, they automatically run Word
and load that document -- Word documents can contain powerful macros
that are run automatically when the document is loaded), but I haven't
verified it.

GNU Emacs had a similar feature (certain magic lines in a file could
run any Emacs commands automatically when the file was loaded -- and
Emacs commands are powerful indeed).

So it's quite possible to get a virus from e-mail, but you have to either
be wantonly stupid (if you install a dangerous procmail rule), or just
ignorant that the program had the capability (what do you mean you didn't
read the footnote on page 481 of the technical reference manual you must
buy separately?).

For more information, you might want to search the RISKS archive (see
the comp.risks newsgroup).

 Notice that the original post came from AOL.. :)

Not everyone from AOL is stupid. I've exchanged mail with an AOL user
who wrote C compilers to cure hangovers...

Most AOL users are new on the net, and they're clumsy, silly and sometimes
irritating, but there's some very shrewd people on AOL as well. With six
million users (three times as many as on the whole of Usenet when I started
reading it) you get all kinds of people.

-- 
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Problem with man?

1996-08-17 Thread Richard G. Roberto


Sorry for the line wraps, but I get this when I try to look
at a man page.  And catman just sits there and does nothing!
Anybody?

# man man
man: command exited with status -1: /bin/gzip -dc
'/var/catman/cat1/man.1.gz' |
{ export MAN_PN LESS; MAN_PN='man(1)';
LESS=$LESS\$-Pm\:\$ix8mPm Manual page $MAN_PN ?ltline
%lt?L/%L.:byte %bB?s/%s..?e (END):?pB %pB\\%..; most; }
#

Thanks in advance

Richard G. Roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
201-739-2886 - whippany, nj


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Re: RAID in Linux (was Re: SCSI and EIDE)

1996-08-17 Thread Todd Tyrone Fries
 Hi guys,
 
 starting a new thread about the subject... ;-)
 
 I'm still trying to get a grip on this...
 
 Few questions:
 1. can raid0/raid1 be done on either scsi or ide or both?
 2. what's the difference between raid0 and raid1?
 3. what exactly does it do? Does it mirror data accross multiple devices, 
 and if so, how does it maintain the data in all devices?
 4. How does one go about creating an md device? Would it automatically 
 mirror a non-md drive into the multiple devices?

Please read the manpage for the 'mdcreate' utility.  It answers all of these
questions.  That said, I'll attemt to exlain it in my own words.

raid0/raid1/linear are currently functional raid personalities that can be
used for any block device.  floppy+ide+scsi+zipdrive+whatever.  I don't know
if you could use a ramdisk, but I wouldn't be surprised.  ANY BLOCK DEVICE.

So, for my computer, I have:
/dev/hda hda1(1mb)  hda2(90mb)  hda3(50mb) hda4(60mb)
/dev/sda sda1(45mb) sda2(265mb) sda3(7mb)
/dev/sdb sdb1(45mb) sdb2(265mb) sdb3(7mb)

Long story on the reasoning behind this, but anyway, /etc/mdtab contains:

   /dev/md0 raid0,4k,0,72e5f713 /dev/sdb1 /dev/hda6 /dev/sda1
   /dev/md1 raid0,4k,0,7b8942ce /dev/sdb2 /dev/sda2

Which gets me an output of 'df' as follows:

   LightHouse~:$ df
   Filesystem 1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
   /dev/hda2  89183   79028 5550 93%   /
   /dev/md0  149794  13167118123 88%   /home
   /dev/md1  515289  45853930134 94%   /usr

(the 50mb partition on ide is swap).

Notice I am creating a /usr partition that is bigger than any one of my
drives alone, and also am using ide + scsi on the /home partition.

[ a note to those who would suggest I'm crazy to swap on ide when I have
  scsi--  my ide is 2x faster than my scsi disks because they are VERY old ]
[ a note to those who wonder about the 2 unused 7mb partitions on my scsi
  disks-- the 2nd scsi disk has problems reading the last 7mb of the drive
  and causes lockups.  So I decided to partition the drives around the 'bad'
  blocks. ]

Anyway, raid (or multiple device, md) in linux has 3 personalities availble
at this time:
   linear = appending all the block devices together.  So if you had
 md0 = /dev/hda1 + hdb3 + sda, the blocks would be accessed
  in this order:

  /dev/hda1 = { block1, block2, block3 }
  /dev/hdb3 = { block4, block5 }
  /dev/sda  = { block6, block7, block8 }

   raid0 = software disk striping.  So if you had
 md0 = /dev/hda1 + hdb3 + sda, the blocks would be accessed
   in this order:

  /dev/hda1 = { block1, block4, block7 }
  /dev/hdb3 = { block2, block5 }
  /dev/sda  = { block3, block6, block8 }

   raid1 = software disk striping + recovery; I am not certain of the block
 layout but it is similar to raid0 with not as much physical space
 available due to some data redundancies

So, when I was booting off /dev/hda2 on my machine, I simply typed:

mdcreate raid0 /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1 /dev/hda6 /dev/sda1
mdcreate raid0 /dev/md1 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sda2

And now, upon bootup, I simply type:
mdadd -ar

Which activates the md devices.  At this point in time I am able to fsk and
mount the /dev/md* just as if they were hd*'s or sd*'s.  They are a block
device, like any other.

Honestly, you will get the idea when you toy around and start planning to do
your own raid'ing.  Especially when you grab the md utils and compile them,
while they compile you can read the man pages and you should have no problem.

It is actually fairly simple to use.
--
Todd Fries .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [Fwd: Virus Alert]

1996-08-17 Thread Philippe Troin

On Sat, 17 Aug 1996 05:47:04 +0300 Lars Wirzenius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

 GNU Emacs had a similar feature (certain magic lines in a file could
 run any Emacs commands automatically when the file was loaded -- and
 Emacs commands are powerful indeed).

FYI, this is now disabled by default.
The emacs variable are:
enable-local-eval (defaults to ask user)
enable-local-variables (defaults to obey)

Phil.




Re: User-friendliness (was: Re: dselect returns error code)

1996-08-17 Thread Larry 'Daffy' Daffner

Heiko R. Selber writes:
- On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote:
- 
-  On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Heiko R. Selber wrote:
-  
-   [ Problems with dselect ]
- 
-  Well, don't judge Debian by dselect. Dselect is the product of one mind
-  and has, in my estimation, severe user interface problems.
- 
- I disagree. DO judge Debian by dselect. To the debian-newbie, dselect is
- the first thing you see (thus, for the moment it IS Debian) and if it
- doesn't do what it should, it will intimidate new users (maybe forever). 
- 

I agree here... I just installed debian 1.1 to replace my 3.0
Slackware system.  It seems Slackware isn't making much progress, and
my system was becoming rather patchwork, so I decided to start mostly
fresh :)

dselect IS the most visible portion of the Debian packaging system,
and the packaging system is the most visible distinctive part of a
particular Linux distribution. 

Overall, I like Debian so far.  It seems a lot of work has gone into
making Debian very sensible and upgradable on many levels.  Dselect is
Debian's ugly wart, IMHO. It took me several rounds of playing around
with it to eventually get it to install all the packages I had
downloaded.

dselect is very powerful, but with that power, it sometimes loses
intuitiveness.  One possible solution is maybe to make a 'dumbed down'
installer, which acts similar to Slackware's setup tool (from a user
interface POV, anyways), allows me to go through, select my system,
then check dependencies and advise me (or optionally after every
package set, whenever I press the advise button, whatever). This
could be used as a simple 'get-you-up-and-running' install tool, then
once the system was set up, the user could use dselect for the more
advanced solution.

Just a suggestion...
-Larry
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can't ifconfig dummy

1996-08-17 Thread Bill Roman
Why doesn't `ifconfig dummy songdog' work?  It tells me:
SIOCSIFADDR: No such device

Am I the dummy here?

--
Bill Roman  ([EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED])   running linux



how to put ifconfig in startup script?

1996-08-17 Thread keng
Hello;

After messing up my XDM and essentially locking myself
out of my system for a while, I have become interested
in setting up my ethernet card from a startup script.

Does one put the ifconfig and route statements in the usual
rc.inet1 and reference it somehow from rc6.d, or what?

I appreciate any suggestions here; the NET-2 HOWTO seems to be 
geared toward the Slackware kind of system.

Thanks!



Re: [Fwd: Virus Alert]

1996-08-17 Thread Juha Ylitalo
On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Robbie Honerkamp wrote:

  I remember reading about this several months ago. It was the opinion
  of most people at the time to be just a joke. Anyone know for sure
  if it is anything other than a joke?
 
 Not true. You can't get a virus from reading an email message.

Actually this is something that can be disputed quite lot, but thankfully
its not something that would happen while using Debian/Linux. Just to
point out, what I mean by that is that one of the most common ways that I
know for passing around all those macro viruses, that now exist in M$-Word
and Excel, will quite heavily spread around throught M$-Mail or about any
other mailer that supports easy interface for adding those documents or
spreadsheets as attachments. 

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PPP and kernels

1996-08-17 Thread Juha Ylitalo
I guess best way to describe my current status with Debian is that I am
still in process of moving to Debian from system that was originally based
on Slackware 3.0.

Anyway. I installed Debian 1.1.4 without too many problems and got
everything basically working (fvwm95, emacs and PPP as most important
pieces). At that point, I wanted to compile my very own kernel and
downloaded Linux-2.0.13 sources and compiled it. All seemed to go
beatifully, but for some reason it broke my PPP.

Reason why I am asking this here instead of some generic Linux groups is
that when I copy that linux 2.0.13 image to my old slackware partition and
boot it, PPP works just beatifully. While on Debian side, only way to keep
things working beatifully is by sticking on boot disk.

To give you more exact view about problem, here is sort of description
about problem and below is configuration file that was used on kernel
compilation.

Quote from my ppp-on script:

pppd /dev/$DEVICE $SPEED
echo Started pppd 12
IP=
while test $IPx = x
do
  echo Waiting for IP address 12
  sleep 1
  IP=`/sbin/ifconfig | /usr/bin/grep -1 ppp0 | /usr/bin/grep inet addr|\
  /usr/bin/awk '{print $2}'| /usr/bin/awk 'BEGIN {FS=:} {print $2}'`
done

While running this on Slackware or with boot disk, it usually goes around
something like 3-4 times before information gets into ifconfig. With my
2.0.13 on debian, I wait 25 lines and cancel it at that time. Once I tried
rsh command from other virtual console and got response that network was
unreachable. 

Now to the Linux kernel part:
#
# Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit
#

#
# Code maturity level options
#
# CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is not set

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
# CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set
# CONFIG_KERNELD is not set

#
# General setup
#
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_NET=y
# CONFIG_MAX_16M is not set
CONFIG_PCI=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_KERNEL_ELF=y
CONFIG_M586=y

#
# Floppy, IDE, and other block devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_ONLY is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set

#
# Networking options
#
# CONFIG_FIREWALL is not set
# CONFIG_NET_ALIAS is not set
CONFIG_INET=y
CONFIG_IP_FORWARD=y
# CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ACCT is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set
# CONFIG_INET_PCTCP is not set
# CONFIG_INET_RARP is not set
# CONFIG_NO_PATH_MTU_DISCOVERY is not set
CONFIG_IP_NOSR=y
CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y
# CONFIG_IPX is not set
# CONFIG_ATALK is not set
# CONFIG_AX25 is not set
# CONFIG_NETLINK is not set

#
# SCSI support
#
CONFIG_SCSI=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
# CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR is not set
# CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS is not set

#
# SCSI low-level drivers
#
# CONFIG_SCSI_7000FASST is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA152X is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1542 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1740 is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX=y
# CONFIG_SCSI_ADVANSYS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IN2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AM53C974 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DTC3280 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_DMA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_PIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GENERIC_NCR5380 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C406A is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PPA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PAS16 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FAS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_ISP is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SEAGATE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_T128 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_U14_34F is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ULTRASTOR is not set

#
# Network device support
#
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y
CONFIG_DUMMY=y
# CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set
# CONFIG_PLIP is not set
CONFIG_PPP=y
# CONFIG_SLIP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set
# CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET is not set
# CONFIG_TR is not set
# CONFIG_ARCNET is not set

#
# ISDN subsystem
#
# CONFIG_ISDN is not set

#
# CD-ROM drivers (not for SCSI or IDE/ATAPI drives)
#
# CONFIG_CD_NO_IDESCSI is not set

#
# Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
# CONFIG_LOCK_MANDATORY is not set
# CONFIG_MINIX_FS is not set
# CONFIG_EXT_FS is not set
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
# CONFIG_XIA_FS is not set
# CONFIG_FAT_FS is not set
# CONFIG_MSDOS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_VFAT_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS is not set
CONFIG_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_NFS_FS=y
# CONFIG_ROOT_NFS is not set
# CONFIG_SMB_FS is not set
# CONFIG_ISO9660_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set

#
# Character devices
#
CONFIG_SERIAL=y
# CONFIG_DIGI is not set
# CONFIG_CYCLADES is not set
# CONFIG_STALDRV is not set
# CONFIG_RISCOM8 is not set
# CONFIG_PRINTER is not set
# CONFIG_MOUSE 

Re: dosemu

1996-08-17 Thread Miro Torrielli
Shaya Potter wrote:
 
 What video card do you use?
 
 Shaya
 --
 Shaya Potter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, I'm currently using a Cirrus Logic GD5434, which works fine
with XFree in 8 bit mode, but produces streaks at higher bpp's. Anyway,
I'm getting a Matrox soon, a real speedster. Thanx for your time...



Re: Where can I get dpkg-ftp other than the install disks?!

1996-08-17 Thread Miro Torrielli
Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote:
 
 Hi folks.
 
 I just returned to a pre-1.1 beta PC which has an early verion
 of the ELF system.  Here's my problem.  I want to update it via
 dpkg-ftp, but I can't find dpkg-ftp!  I presume that it has been
 incorporated into the base disks.  How to I get it onto my system
 without messing with my configuration?
 
 Thanks.  Syrus.
 
 --
 Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.

Last time I looked it was in the development tree (or rex, unstable)

Good luck...



lyx and fonts

1996-08-17 Thread Hakan Ardo
Hi,
I'm trying to use lyx, and it works fine untill it invokes latex. Then it 
seems to be using some fonts that I have not installed. Where can I find those 
fonts (listed below)? Acording to /usr/doc/lyx/debian.README.gz, ther should 
also excist * several manpages, of which I can find non. I am using the 
0.9.21-1 vesrion from the stable directory, butI have also tried the unstable 
0.10.3.1 without success.

Here is the missfont.log file:

MakeTeXTFM dcr1000.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcr1440.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcbx1440.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcbx1728.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcsx1728.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcsx2488.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcr1200.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcbx1200.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcbx0800.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcbx1000.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcr0900.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcr0600.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcr0700.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcti1000.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcti0700.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcr0800.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcit1000.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dctt0800.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dccc1000.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcsl1000.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcbx0700.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dcbi1000.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dctt1000.tfm 
MakeTeXTFM dctt1000.tfm 


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 E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WWW:   HTTP://www.ub2.lu.se/~hakan/sig.html
 Interests: WWW, Programming, 3D graphics

 Thought for the day: As long as one understands, the
 spelling does not matter :-)
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Warining from make xconfig ...

1996-08-17 Thread Richard G. Roberto
Hi everyone!

I get this warning message when I run make xconfig to setup
my kernel .config file prior to compiling.  It doesn't seem
to bother anything, but I figured I ask if anyone else has
seen it.

Thanks

Richard G. Roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
201-739-2886 - whippany, nj


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Warining from make xconfig ... (fwd)

1996-08-17 Thread Richard G. Roberto
Sorry!  I guess the error output would help!

# make xconfig
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
make -C scripts kconfig.tk
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/scripts'
make -C /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/drivers/sound mkscript
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/drivers/sound'
Compiling Sound Driver v 3.5.5-beta1 for Linux
rm -f configure
gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/include -o configure configure.c
./configure script  Config.in
cat lowlevel/Config.tmpl  Config.in
./configure fixedlocal  local.h
./configure fixeddefines  .defines
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/drivers/sound'

gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/include  -g -Wall -c -o tkparse.o tkparse.c
gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/include  -g -Wall -c -o tkcond.o tkcond.c
gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/include  -g -Wall -c -o tkgen.o tkgen.c
gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/include -o tkparse tkparse.o tkcond.o 
tkgen.o
./tkparse  ../arch/i386/config.in   kconfig.tmp
cat header.tk  ./kconfig.tk
cat kconfig.tmp  kconfig.tk
rm -f kconfig.tmp
echo set defaults \arch/i386/defconfig\  kconfig.tk
cat tail.tk  kconfig.tk
chmod 755 kconfig.tk
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/scripts'
wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk
WARNING - broken Config.in!  CONFIG_AEDSP16 was not declared!
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/drivers/sound'
Compiling Sound Driver v 3.5.5-beta1 for Linux
rm -f configure
gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/include -o configure configure.c
./configure fixedlocal  local.h
./configure fixeddefines  .defines
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/drivers/sound'

Thanks again!

Richard G. Roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
201-739-2886 - whippany, nj

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:46:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Warining from make xconfig ...

Hi everyone!

I get this warning message when I run make xconfig to setup
my kernel .config file prior to compiling.  It doesn't seem
to bother anything, but I figured I ask if anyone else has
seen it.

Thanks

Richard G. Roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
201-739-2886 - whippany, nj



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Re: Warining from make xconfig ... (fwd)

1996-08-17 Thread Mike Taylor
I got essentialy the same message while preparing to compile a non-
Debian 2.08 kernel.  I conclude from this that whatever the problem
is, it is not a Debian problem.  I don't know if the resulting
config file is really broken or not, but I did not take any chances.
I used menuconfig.  It is almost as nice, and does not produce the
broken message.

Mike



On Sat, 17 Aug 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote:

 Sorry!  I guess the error output would help!

 # make xconfig
 rm -f include/asm
 ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
 make -C scripts kconfig.tk
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/scripts'
 make -C /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/drivers/sound mkscript
 make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/drivers/sound'
 Compiling Sound Driver v 3.5.5-beta1 for Linux
 rm -f configure
 gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/include -o configure configure.c
 ./configure script  Config.in
 cat lowlevel/Config.tmpl  Config.in
 ./configure fixedlocal  local.h
 ./configure fixeddefines  .defines
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/drivers/sound'

 gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/include  -g -Wall -c -o tkparse.o 
 tkparse.c
 gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/include  -g -Wall -c -o tkcond.o tkcond.c
 gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/include  -g -Wall -c -o tkgen.o tkgen.c
 gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/include -o tkparse tkparse.o tkcond.o 
 tkgen.o
 ./tkparse  ../arch/i386/config.in   kconfig.tmp
 cat header.tk  ./kconfig.tk
 cat kconfig.tmp  kconfig.tk
 rm -f kconfig.tmp
 echo set defaults \arch/i386/defconfig\  kconfig.tk
 cat tail.tk  kconfig.tk
 chmod 755 kconfig.tk
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/scripts'
 wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk
 WARNING - broken Config.in!  CONFIG_AEDSP16 was not declared!
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/drivers/sound'
 Compiling Sound Driver v 3.5.5-beta1 for Linux
 rm -f configure
 gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/include -o configure configure.c
 ./configure fixedlocal  local.h
 ./configure fixeddefines  .defines
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.12/drivers/sound'

 Thanks again!

 Richard G. Roberto
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj

 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:46:31 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Warining from make xconfig ...

 Hi everyone!

 I get this warning message when I run make xconfig to setup
 my kernel .config file prior to compiling.  It doesn't seem
 to bother anything, but I figured I ask if anyone else has
 seen it.

 Thanks

 Richard G. Roberto
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj



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runq zombies

1996-08-17 Thread Joey Hess
My system's been running for about a week. I've started to notice lots of
runq zombies (from smail, I guess):

 FLAGS   UID   PID  PPID PRI  NI   SIZE   RSS WCHAN   STA TTY TIME COMMAND
100040 0 10843 1   0   0   106848  11543d S   ?   0:00 (runq)
100040 0 11188 1   0   0   106848  11543d S   ?   0:00 (runq)
100040 0 11768 1   0   0   1068   180  11543d S   ?   0:00 (runq)
100300 0 10841 10839   0   0  0 0  11510f Z   ?   0:00 (runq 
zombie)
100040 0 10844 10843   0   0   118452  110334 S   ?   0:00 (runq)
100300 0 11186 11184   0   0  0 0  11510f Z   ?   0:00 (runq 
zombie)
100140 0 11734 11188   0   0   1180   288  110334 S   ?   0:00 runq 
100300 0 11766 11764   0   0  0 0  11510f Z   ?   0:00 (runq 
zombie)
100040 0 11770 11768   0   0   1180   288  110334 S   ?   0:00 runq 

I was able to get rid of killing the zombies by killing runq processes
that were their parent(?) processes. Anyone else seen lots of runq
zombies?

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Re: Installing Netscape with dpkg

1996-08-17 Thread Brian C. White
 How does one make slight modifications to a debian package?  What is
 a debian package?  Is it really just a gzipped, tarred file?  What are
 the important components?

You can grab the package source and edit it from there.  Please DON'T do
this, though.  I try to keep up and a short note to me telling me that
a newer version is available will usually get it available within a couple
days.

Brian
   ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

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Re: [Fwd: Virus Alert]

1996-08-17 Thread Brian C. White
 Not true. You can't get a virus from reading an email message.

Actually, there is a Good Times virus and it does come by email.
The announcement itself _is_ the virus and it spreads _exteremely_
quickly!

For more information, check out the following FAQ:

http://www-mcb.ucdavis.edu/info/virus.html

Brian
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Re: can't ifconfig dummy

1996-08-17 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

  Bill Roman writes:
  Bill  Why doesn't `ifconfig dummy songdog' work?  It tells me:
  Bill SIOCSIFADDR: No such device

Try
ifconfig dummy0 hostname
route add hostname 

and if you use kerneld to load modules, add this in /etc/conf.modules:

alias   dummy0  dummy

--
Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd



Re: can't ifconfig dummy

1996-08-17 Thread Larry 'Daffy' Daffner
You gotta tell it which dummy:

ifconfig dummy0 songdog

-Larry

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Re: how to put ifconfig in startup script?

1996-08-17 Thread Philippe Troin

On Fri, 16 Aug 1996 23:31:49 PDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello;
 
 After messing up my XDM and essentially locking myself
 out of my system for a while, I have become interested
 in setting up my ethernet card from a startup script.
 
 Does one put the ifconfig and route statements in the usual
 rc.inet1 and reference it somehow from rc6.d, or what?
 
 I appreciate any suggestions here; the NET-2 HOWTO seems to be 
 geared toward the Slackware kind of system.

In a Debian system, these statements should go into /etc/init.d/network.
It contains a small script to be customized.
Here's a copy of mine:

#!/bin/sh
ifconfig lo localhost
route add -net localnet
IPADDR=207.104.147.129
NETMASK=255.255.255.248
NETWORK=207.104.147.128
BROADCAST=207.104.147.136
GATEWAY=none
INTERFACE=dummy0

[ $INTERFACE != none ]  \
ifconfig $INTERFACE ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST} \
route add -net ${NETWORK}
[ $GATEWAY != none ]  route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1

Note that I have no default gateway (diald sets up its own).

Phil.




Re: German manpages

1996-08-17 Thread Martin Schulze
You write:

}Hi,

}if I run man with LANG or LC_MESSAGE=de I won't see any german man-pages. If
}I use export MANPATH=/usr/man/de:`manpath` it works without trouble. Where
}is the problem? Even man -L de dont check for the german files. (Well, I
}dontneed them, but I was curious if it will work :)


}ii  man 2.3.10-11  Display the on-line manual.
}ii  manpages1.11-4 Section 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, and 9 manpages
}ii  manpages-de 0.1-1  German section 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, and 8 manpages
 ^
Please get the actual release of it, the documentation contains a
paragraph inspired by Ray Dassen that describes how to activate them.

Regards,

Joey
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