ANNOUNCE: pe package -- try 2

1996-08-19 Thread Christian Schwarz

Hi!

I'm sorry, but the permission to the files I referred to yesterday were
wrong. I had just fixed them and the files should now be available for
everyone who is intrested. Thanks for all the mails!


For those who didn't get it yesterday:

pe (periodic execution) is meant to be a simple replacement
for cron(8) on systems, that are just powered on for a few
hours a day. On such systems, cron jobs are not very useful
since one often can't say, when the system is running. So,
for example, the nice jobs in the /etc/cron.daily directory
aren't executed. (I didn't had the log rotating running on my
client machine for 4 weeks now ;-)

Here are the URLs:

http://www.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/pe_0.2-1_all.deb
http://www.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/pe_0.2-1.tar.gz


Cheers

Chris


PS: I'm not quite sure if the name "pe" is good for what this small
utility does. So if someone has a better idea, email me...

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Re: Don't use Matrox cards (Was re:dosemu)

1996-08-19 Thread Shaya Potter


On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Barry Hughes wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Shaya Potter wrote:
> 
> >> Well, I'm currently using a Cirrus Logic GD5434, which works fine
> >> with XFree in 8 bit mode, but produces streaks at higher bpp's. Anyway,
> >> I'm getting a Matrox soon, a real speedster. Thanx for your time...
> 
> >From experience Cirrus cards and chipsets work very well with XFree86, and
> I would tend to recommend them.
> 
> >If you plan to continue to use XFree, then I hope you don't buy a matrox 
> >video card.  They do not work with XFree and probably never will.  
> >They don't give away the information on how to use their cards, so the 
> >only way XFree could use their cards would be if XFree signed a 
> >non-disclosure agreement with them, which is kind of hard when you give 
> >away the source code to your product.  
> >If you are willing to buy a commercail X server from X inside or Metro X 
> >then 
> >it shouldn't be a problem.  But then again you will have to install it by 
> >hand, because their is no debian package for it, and dpkg won't know 
> >about it.
> >What might be good for you, is that if someone ever comes up with a 
> >rpm --> deb utility, you can buy a redhat cd, from cheapbuytes for around 
> >$30-40 and it comes with Metro X.  But if you wan't to be able to get all 
> >the source code for your programs you are still stuck.
> 
> 
> Um, FYI Matroax *HAVE* now allowed the source code to be released, and the
> drivers for their cards are being worked on, (at last) so, you can use
> this to tell what card to get ;)
> 
> 
> -Barry Hughes

When did this happen?  I talked to a friend, just a couple of weeks ago, 
and he said he just talked to Matrox and they were pretty dead set 
against giving their support away like that.  However, if I am wrong I 
admit it, and apologize for the wrong advice I gave.

Shaya
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Re: Don't use Matrox cards (Was re:dosemu)

1996-08-19 Thread Shaya Potter


On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Shaya Potter wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 17 Aug 1996, Miro Torrielli wrote:
> > 
> > > Well, I'm currently using a Cirrus Logic GD5434, which works fine
> > > with XFree in 8 bit mode, but produces streaks at higher bpp's. Anyway,
> > > I'm getting a Matrox soon, a real speedster. Thanx for your time...
> > 
> > IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT
> > 
> > If you plan to continue to use XFree, then I hope you don't buy a matrox 
> > video card.  They do not work with XFree and probably never will.  
> 
> I'm not sure this is true.  What source gave you that
> information?
> 
Put it this way, from what I have read on usenet, and have been told from 
friends who have called Matrox, they do not intend ever to give out the 
information needed to program their cards without a non-disclosure 
agreement.  However, they could do the samething Diamond did after many 
people complained to them about the practice and change their policy 
toward Linux.  But as I said before, Matrox seems pretty set in their 
ways right now.

> > 
> > They don't give away the information on how to use their cards, so the 
> > only way XFree could use their cards would be if XFree signed a 
> > non-disclosure agreement with them, which is kind of hard when you give 
> > away the source code to your product.  
> > 
> > If you are willing to buy a commercail X server from X inside or Metro X 
> > then 
> > it shouldn't be a problem.  But then again you will have to install it by 
> > hand, because their is no debian package for it, and dpkg won't know 
> > about it.
> > 
> > What might be good for you, is that if someone ever comes up with a 
> > rpm --> deb utility, you can buy a redhat cd, from cheapbuytes for around 
> > $30-40 and it comes with Metro X.  But if you wan't to be able to get all 
> > the source code for your programs you are still stuck.
> 
> Now I'm pretty sure this is not true.  Last time I checked,
> redhat linux came with a beta version of the Metro X
> software that was pretty buggy and very slow.  The same beta
> was available from Metro X directly as well.  You don't have
> to get it in .rpm format.  Accelerated X has a demo of their
> server available too, and I don't think theirs is beta.
> 
This I didn't know.  However, is the demo of Accelerated X fully 
functioning, or is it really just a demo.

> > Hope this helps,
> > 
> > Shaya
> 
> You may be right on both counts, but I'd still like to be
> sure.  Please let us know.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Richard G. Roberto
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj
> 
> 

Shaya
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problems with P-120

1996-08-19 Thread C M Marka

  Three weeks ago I finally got Debian Linux 1.1 up and running rock solid on
my 486 DX4-100. Well, a week ago I upgraded to Pentium and couldn't wait to
see Linux performance boot, but... Continuous *random* crashes. I thought I'd
re-install, but the installation broke as well... for many times. When I got
through the installation (once), the thing broke while setting the root pass-
word. The crashes are trully random, the only thing I noticed is that it
always breaks when HD is accessed. I thought it was because the partition
was above the 528 Mb limit, then I moved it down, but nothing changed.
Here's my setup:

CPU: Intel Pentium 120 MHz
m/b chipset: Intel 430FX (Triton)
BIOS: Award 4.51PG with Pnp extension 1.0A
HDD: WD Caviar AC21200

I never heard of Triton related problems with Linux, actually the 486 I had
before had buggy CMD 640B and I got past that, but now... Maybe it's PnP BIOS
or some other weird BIOS Setup setting or maybe it's that my HDD is set to
LBA mode... Or maybe it's something in the Debian Linux configuration? I 
tried both versions that install kernel 2.0.0 and 2.0.6, both break. I 
installed from floppies BTW.

Please help me, I got the taste with the 486 and now I want a full 
satisfaction with my Pentium. I love Linux. I've downloaded LOADS of stuff
ready to be installed, just need to get the base system running... 

*PLEASE* write to me directly as I am not subscribed to the list.
Please help me if you have experienced similar problems. Is my hardware 
defective? Windows and DOS run well (as well as Win and DOS can run anyway).
I know people are very friendly on this list, last time someone mailed me
the kernel with CMD 640 support the very next day. PLEASE HELP ME, I REALLY
WANT LINUX

Martynas



Anyone who had the installation kernel decompression problem.

1996-08-19 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
If you have had trouble booting from the installation floppy (created
from boot1440.bin or boot1200.bin), please help me out.

I have been researching the problem (thanks to Bruce Perens for help
and guidance), and I would now like to pinpoint a specific hardware
incompatibility, if one exists.  Hopefully, this will suggest a fix for
the problem, or at least allow us to warn others.

The problem:  On some systems, using the Debian Installation Boot Disk,
  the linux kernel fails to decompress.  (This happens *after* you have
  pressed  in response to the 'boot:' prompt.)

Typical solutions:  This problem is often avoided by turning off the
  level one and/or level two cache.  Others have also suggested
  reducing the clock speed, or increasing the wait states.

If you have experienced this, I would like to know:

  * Your CPU type.
  * Your floppy controller.
  * Your solution.
  * Anything else that might be helpful.

I look forward to your replies.

Chris -)-

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Re: Don't use Matrox cards (Was re:dosemu)

1996-08-19 Thread Barry Hughes
On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Shaya Potter wrote:

>> Well, I'm currently using a Cirrus Logic GD5434, which works fine
>> with XFree in 8 bit mode, but produces streaks at higher bpp's. Anyway,
>> I'm getting a Matrox soon, a real speedster. Thanx for your time...

>From experience Cirrus cards and chipsets work very well with XFree86, and
I would tend to recommend them.

>If you plan to continue to use XFree, then I hope you don't buy a matrox 
>video card.  They do not work with XFree and probably never will.  
>They don't give away the information on how to use their cards, so the 
>only way XFree could use their cards would be if XFree signed a 
>non-disclosure agreement with them, which is kind of hard when you give 
>away the source code to your product.  
>If you are willing to buy a commercail X server from X inside or Metro X then 
>it shouldn't be a problem.  But then again you will have to install it by 
>hand, because their is no debian package for it, and dpkg won't know 
>about it.
>What might be good for you, is that if someone ever comes up with a 
>rpm --> deb utility, you can buy a redhat cd, from cheapbuytes for around 
>$30-40 and it comes with Metro X.  But if you wan't to be able to get all 
>the source code for your programs you are still stuck.


Um, FYI Matroax *HAVE* now allowed the source code to be released, and the
drivers for their cards are being worked on, (at last) so, you can use
this to tell what card to get ;)


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Re: Don't use Matrox cards (Was re:dosemu)

1996-08-19 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Shaya Potter wrote:

> 
> 
> On Sat, 17 Aug 1996, Miro Torrielli wrote:
> 
> > Well, I'm currently using a Cirrus Logic GD5434, which works fine
> > with XFree in 8 bit mode, but produces streaks at higher bpp's. Anyway,
> > I'm getting a Matrox soon, a real speedster. Thanx for your time...
> 
> IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT
> 
> If you plan to continue to use XFree, then I hope you don't buy a matrox 
> video card.  They do not work with XFree and probably never will.  

I'm not sure this is true.  What source gave you that
information?

> 
> They don't give away the information on how to use their cards, so the 
> only way XFree could use their cards would be if XFree signed a 
> non-disclosure agreement with them, which is kind of hard when you give 
> away the source code to your product.  
> 
> If you are willing to buy a commercail X server from X inside or Metro X then 
> it shouldn't be a problem.  But then again you will have to install it by 
> hand, because their is no debian package for it, and dpkg won't know 
> about it.
> 
> What might be good for you, is that if someone ever comes up with a 
> rpm --> deb utility, you can buy a redhat cd, from cheapbuytes for around 
> $30-40 and it comes with Metro X.  But if you wan't to be able to get all 
> the source code for your programs you are still stuck.

Now I'm pretty sure this is not true.  Last time I checked,
redhat linux came with a beta version of the Metro X
software that was pretty buggy and very slow.  The same beta
was available from Metro X directly as well.  You don't have
to get it in .rpm format.  Accelerated X has a demo of their
server available too, and I don't think theirs is beta.

> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Shaya

You may be right on both counts, but I'd still like to be
sure.  Please let us know.

Thanks

Richard G. Roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
201-739-2886 - whippany, nj


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Re: GOOD TIMES

1996-08-19 Thread Brian C. White
> > Goodtimes isn't real. And Clinton is not sincere.

Guys, please take it elsewhere!

> (Note that I just broke my rule.  Sorry again.)

Then why did you do it?

Brian
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Re: mailagent and MH

1996-08-19 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Michael --

You said:
> ... is it not true that by using mailagent wisely one should be able 
> to avoid the use of inc altogether?

I've been tip-toeing my way forward with mailagent.  My ~/.rules file
currently disposes of only a few of the mailing lists I'm on,
and only those for which I don't get much mail, and I have already
learned from some mistakes I made in it.  As you probably know,
mailagent places messages that aren't matched by anything in ~/.rules
into a mailbox-style file, which must be inc'd in order to be used by MH.  

Yes, I can now write a ~/.rules file that would automatically move 
otherwise-unmatched files into +inbox.  But the fact that I've now seen
mailagent + MH do at least one simple operation in an unexpected and 
unpredicatble way suggests to me that simply refiling unmatched messages
just papers over a flaw which will reveal itself later as a loss of mail.

Dubious (but marginally open-minded),
Susan




Re: mailagent and MH

1996-08-19 Thread Michael Harnois
"Susan G. Kleinmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have just begun using mailagent, and am hoping for some enlightenment
> regarding its behaviour.

I am, too, so I hope if you receive private replies you will enlighten me.
> 
> Then I try to fetch mail messages from mbox.sgk into my MH inbox,
> by executing:   
>inc -file ~/mbox.sgk
 
I'm certain I'm more confused than you are, but is it not true that by
using mailagent wisely one should be able to avoid the use of inc
altogether?


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timer goes too fast

1996-08-19 Thread fabrizio carraro
Hi, I have a strange problem with two Elonex 486 machines running Linux (a
486/25 and a 486/33). The internal timer sometimes start running at double
speed, so that the time of the day is wrong. If I turn them off and on
the timer works fine, maybe for a week or two, maybe just for one hour,
then it starts going at double speed again. I didn't try if it is the same
under DOS, but I think it was ok.
It looks like if the timer is reprogrammed with some wrong value. Has
anybody heard of a similar problem?

fabrizio



Re: How do I allow users to run a single command as root?

1996-08-19 Thread Rob Browning
Casper BodenCummins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   (a) packages which control superuser execution are not generally
>   found in distributed commercial UNICES (and how many sysadmins
>   have the time or the inclination to seek out these packages?);

Hmm, I hadn't thought about that.  Ok, interesting consideration.

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ftape format warning!!!

1996-08-19 Thread Ken Gaugler
I had a nasty surprise using ftape to dump my filesystems for archival
right before repartitioning my hard drive.  I wanted to let people
know about this in case they were not already aware.

If you plan to dump several filesystems to one tape (that is, more than
one session on a tape) you need to erase the tape using mt FIRST!!!
Otherwise you will not be able to read any sessions beyond the first.

There were only two sessions on my tape.  Sadly, the second session
contained the /usr filesystem, so I lost everything :(

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Re: (yet again) [Fwd: Virus Alert]

1996-08-19 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
On Aug 16,  4:44pm, Robbie Honerkamp wrote:
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Virus Alert]
:
: Not true. You can't get a virus from reading an email message.
:
>-- End of excerpt from Robbie Honerkamp

Actually, that depends upon your E'mail system.  Microsoft mail allows
you to send macros along with messages.  These macros are automatically
run when the message is read.  I have first-hand experience with a
"virus" (actually, a destructive macro) that was transmitted this way.

...but that's a hole in Microsoft mail.  Obviously, this kind of thing
could not be done via the standard Unix mail system (unless you had a
MIME-aware mail reader that was willing to run Java code for you...
Oooops!)

Chris -)-

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Need an 8 mm tape recommendation

1996-08-19 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez
Hello,

I need to buy and install an 8mm tape system for our debian systems.
If you happen to have one up and running, could you drop me a note
telling me things like:

- Tape system brand name,
- Connection type (serial/parallel port, internal, etc.),
- Software used to access the tape (I only see something called
  "taper" in the debian distribution),
- Any other info that could guide me.

Thank you,

Pedro Ivan
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Re: What am I doing wrong?

1996-08-19 Thread Tim O'Brien
>Hi Tim,
>Thanks for responding. The closing quotes is a typo. ( Sorry ). Yes
>my ISP uses dynamic IP's. The problem is the system never dials out. The

Ok, find out from your ISP if they can handle PPP. You might want to consider
PPP since by my understanding, it can negotiate a dynamic IP address with 
relative ease.

I assume you are set up to the point that you can manually connect to the
net with the Linux box, and that diald is the only problem, right? 

Try adding this to the end of your diald command line: 

-daemon

It will appear like it's just hung and doing nothing, but don't worry. (You've
just started a daemon but not let it go into the background).

After that, use a different virtual console and log in and telnet somewhere 
that's not on the local lan. After issuing the telnet command, go back to 
the original virtual console and let me know what messages it gives. I have 
a feeling you might see something like 

Connecting 
connect: script failed
waiting 30 seconds for clear to dial 

Anyhow, let me know what happens!

Tim

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Re: Someone working on support for NFS mounted "/usr"?

1996-08-19 Thread Kevin Buhr
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (joost witteveen) writes:
| 
| > As near as I can tell from examining various FAQs, there is no support
| > for maintaining clients with a read-only, NFS-mounted "/usr"
| > partition.  The only current solution seems to be: (i) install a
| > complete system on the server and a base system on the client;
| > (ii) remove the client "/usr" partition and mount the server "/usr" in
| > its place; (iii) configure the client's packages by hand.
| 
| Well, as far as I (and about 5 happy clients (who mount /usr from
| my servre) can see, you're somewhat wrong.

I don't mean to be ungrateful, but your message doesn't shed much
light on the issue.  Perhaps you could supply a bit more detail?

How do you install/configure packages on the client side?  How do you
synchronize package installation and upgrades between the server and
the client?  How does your solution differ from my proposed (and in my
opinion, pretty bad) solution---that is, how do you avoid configuring
the client's packages by hand?

| The only trouble is /etc: it has to be mounted rw (/etc/mounts, and
| /etc/ld.so.cach), and has to have some files different from
| the server (like /etc/init.d/network, setting up different IP numbers).
| 
| But on the /usr side, its all _very_ easy!

Well, yes, but I already knew that.  I want to know what you *do* for
the client "/etc" partitions?  Do you run a nightly script to update
the client's "/etc"?  How does your script determine what should and
shouldn't be overwritten in "/etc"?

Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: vfat/msdos depend on fat

1996-08-19 Thread Jean Orloff


 Michael> Hamish Moffatt writes:
 >> I compiled a custom kernel last night, and made fat, msdos and vfat all
 >> modules. msdos and vfat depend on fat to operate, and it seems that
 >> /etc/modules gets processed later than mounting all file systems;

 Michael> That's what the auto option is for.

 >> vfat gets inserted before fat, and hence doesn't work. I notice that the
 >> precompiled Debian kernel compiles FAT support in, not as a module.

 Michael> Ah, please upgrade to modules_2.0.0-8. There's is a bug in depmod in
 Michael> version -6 and -7. Unfortunately -8 is still in incoming, but you can
 Michael> get it from feivel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de:/pub/debian.incoming.

Thanks to both of you! I have the same problem and didn't dare to ask. 'will
report in case this doesn't work though. 

Since I'm there: `ps` is also broken in my custom 2.0.0 kernel. It complains
about being unable to find libproc.so. Any chance this may be cured at the same
time? I got into the trouble of making a custom kernel because of the PS/2
mouse problem amply mentionned before...



Re: Someone working on support for NFS mounted "/usr"?

1996-08-19 Thread joost witteveen

> As near as I can tell from examining various FAQs, there is no support
> for maintaining clients with a read-only, NFS-mounted "/usr"
> partition.  The only current solution seems to be: (i) install a
> complete system on the server and a base system on the client;
> (ii) remove the client "/usr" partition and mount the server "/usr" in
> its place; (iii) configure the client's packages by hand.

Well, as far as I (and about 5 happy clients (who mount /usr from
my servre) can see, you're somewhat wrong.

The only trouble is /etc: it has to be mounted rw (/etc/mounts, and
/etc/ld.so.cach), and has to have some files different from
the server (like /etc/init.d/network, setting up different IP numbers).

But on the /usr side, its all _very_ easy!

Contact me if you have problems.

-- 
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Re: MIDI & Debian?

1996-08-19 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote:
> further.  There is another free sequencer type program for X
> that I found confusing and not generally useful, but someone
> else may.  It's called Rosegarden.
> 

After doing some more research, I found a nasty memory leak
in jazz :-(.  Too bad, I liked the interface!  I have gotten
a little used to Rosegarden and, although it lacks features,
it does play reliably.  I also found that it maintains
playing speed very well.  Other linux X-MIDI software seem
to slow down when you do anything in X! (like move a
window!)

> There's a reference URL at:
> 
> http://www.digiserve.com/ar/linux-snd/
> 
> This has many links to useful places for Linux sound!
> 
> One thing about that HOWTO, though.  I have a true MPU-401
> capable card, so according to the HOWTO and the Readme.cards
> in the kernel sources, I shouldn't have any problems
> enabling this _and_ the audiotrix pro.  But the mpu-401
> driver complains about a conflict.  Also, the 2.0.12 kernel

This still happens, but without the MPU-401 support, I don't
have MIDI capabilities.  It looks like the MPU-401 option is
required for MIDI device support with the audiotrix pro.
This is a funky card and I have lots of hoops to jump
through to get it to work corrctly under DOS/WIN too.  More
on that later ...

> does not have these sound drivers available as modules!  I

As near as I can tell, this stuff gets compiled into the
sound.o module and not the kernel.  Anybody know for sure?

> think I'm going to recompile the kernel without the MPU-401
> driver and see what happens.  I have a few other things to

As I said, I tried it without the MPU-401 part and no midi.
Strangely enough, I couldn't get the MPU-401 device to
initialize correctly, though.  I got the same conflict
message.  But then I used the USS/Linux driver demo to test
the board, it worked!  So I unloaded it and reloaded
sound.o, and bingo:  MPU-401 midi device listed in
/dev/sndstat!  Rosegarden seems to be able to use the wave
table blaster periodically as well!

> do first, but I should get to this this weekend.  I may have
> other news on MIDI/Sound stuff by then as well.  I'll gladly
> share it with the list if it seems useful.

I found the USS/Linux web site that has a handful of tools
on its web pages.  I was unable to access these tools so Dev
at USS/Linux emailed them to me!  He's a really nice guy
who's interested in free software.  He's using a hacked up
slackware distribution for his internal purposes and I
turned him on to Debian.  He said he'd consider upgrading,
but he has a lot of stuff to do first.  I'll keep on him!
He also said that he would give me the sources to his MIDI
apps so I could debianize them!  They currently don't work
with the USS/Lite sound.o module (at least they don't for
me), so I'll have to take a look at getting them to be more
generally useful, but they work pretty well.

They have the timing problem I mentioned above, which needs
to be worked out.  They also don't give per track options
for input/output device selection, which I need.  I'll stay
on top of this as much as I can, but I'm really behind in so
many things that it may take a while.  I'm getting ready to
move half way across the world in three weeks from now!

I think this is an area that needs more attention than I'm
currently capable of giving it, but I'm the one in need, so
I guess I get the job ...

Thanks!

Richard G. Roberto
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Re: still is ... Re: HOWTOs (Was: Problems with aha1542.o ...)

1996-08-19 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Wed, 14 Aug 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
>   Richard>  Thanks, but I checked into that already too.  There aren't _any_
>   Richard> arguments passable to the module -- only lilo/boot time args to
>   Richard> the kernel.
> 
> Oh, I see. 
> 
> Well, doesn't that give you a reason to modify the source for the driver :-)
> If days had 240 hours...
> 
> --
> Dirk Eddelb"uttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
> 

OK.  I did my first kernel driver patch.  It's not generally
useful I'm afraid, but it served my purpose.  I changed the
default addresses for the aha1542 card to 330 and 234.  Now
it works fine.  I'd still like to know why the boot
parameter failed.  Strange ...

Thanks Dirk for the suggestion and support!

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Re: can't ifconfig dummy

1996-08-19 Thread Dominik Kubla
> Bill Roman writes:

> Why doesn't `ifconfig dummy songdog' work?  It tells me:
> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device

Try 'dummy0' when it is loaded as a module ...

> Am I the dummy here?

No, this one is really a stupid bug (needs just ONE changed line in
the kernel to be fixed!)

Dominik



Re: Solved: mouse problem (running both gpm and X)

1996-08-19 Thread Shaya Potter


On Sun, 18 Aug 1996, Ervin D. Walter wrote:

> Mark Phillips writes:
> > 
> > You may recall I posted, complaining that I had to kill gpm before I
> > could get X to run.  I solved the problem by changing the mouse device
> > over to /dev/ttyS0 (whereas before it was /dev/cua0).  Now things work
> > fine!
> > 
> > Am I right in thinking that the cua devices are now obsolete and that
> > ttyS devices are the way to go?
> > 
> > Mark.
> 
> This is sort of right.  /dev/cuaxxx are in most cases the wrong choice
> because they implement kernel level locking.  What was happening was
> that once one process (gpm) opens /dev/cua0, the kernel does not allow
> another process (X) to use the same device.  The /dev/ttySxx are
> specifically not designed this way.  They are designed with the idea
> that intelligent programs will take care of their own locking (which
> gpm and X do nicely) so more than one program can share the same
> devices.
> 
> Erv
> 
> -- 

Supposdly that should be true, but it seems for some reason, on my 
system, ttyS's also get locked and the only way I can get gpm and X to 
work is to run gpm and gpm -R and point X to /dev/gpmdata and call it a 
MouseSystems mouse.

Shaya
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Re: StarOffice under Debian

1996-08-19 Thread Shaya Potter


On 17 Aug 1996, Christoph Lameter wrote:

> Is anyone running StarOffice under Debian?
> 
> If so how and where did you get the Motif Libraries?
> 
I haven't got it running yet,(I have heard that right now it is very buggy) 
but supposdly they include a large set of Motif2.0 in one of the shared 
libraries they include in the program, so all you have to do is install 
it (w/ the StarInst script, I have it if anyone needs it)  and then copy 
the shared library to /usr/X11R6/lib and rename libXm.so.2 and you should 
be fine.  Another way that suppodly works is to get LessTif, but that 
never worked for me because I wasn't able to get ldconfig to recognize 
libXm when I renamed it from libXm.so.0 to libXm.so.2

If anyone knows why that didn't work, I'd appreciate some insight.

Hope this Helps,

Shaya
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RE: dosemu

1996-08-19 Thread Casper BodenCummins
Absolutely right. Don't go for one of these cards. I spent the best part
of a weekend trying to configure one of these things (including all of
Sat/Sun night), and failed quite dismally. Although it could fall back
to a VGA configuration, the server ran unusably slowly (don't know why).

The trouble is that there is insufficient info available to create a
working XF86Config modeline. Go for something else.

Casper Boden-Cummins.

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>Sent:  19 August 1996 10:28
>To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Cc:The recipient's address is unknown.
>Subject:   Re: dosemu
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Well, I'm currently using a Cirrus Logic GD5434, which works fine
>>with XFree in 8 bit mode, but produces streaks at higher bpp's. Anyway,
>>I'm getting a Matrox soon, a real speedster. Thanx for your time...
>
>I'd suggest not getting a Matrox card -- I believe they're not
>supported
>by XFree86 because Matrox won't release technical details of their
>cards. Go for something S3-based instead...
>
>Regards,
>
>Dave Holland
>
>



Don't use Matrox cards (Was re:dosemu)

1996-08-19 Thread Shaya Potter


On Sat, 17 Aug 1996, Miro Torrielli wrote:

> Well, I'm currently using a Cirrus Logic GD5434, which works fine
> with XFree in 8 bit mode, but produces streaks at higher bpp's. Anyway,
> I'm getting a Matrox soon, a real speedster. Thanx for your time...

IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT

If you plan to continue to use XFree, then I hope you don't buy a matrox 
video card.  They do not work with XFree and probably never will.  

They don't give away the information on how to use their cards, so the 
only way XFree could use their cards would be if XFree signed a 
non-disclosure agreement with them, which is kind of hard when you give 
away the source code to your product.  

If you are willing to buy a commercail X server from X inside or Metro X then 
it shouldn't be a problem.  But then again you will have to install it by 
hand, because their is no debian package for it, and dpkg won't know 
about it.

What might be good for you, is that if someone ever comes up with a 
rpm --> deb utility, you can buy a redhat cd, from cheapbuytes for around 
$30-40 and it comes with Metro X.  But if you wan't to be able to get all 
the source code for your programs you are still stuck.

Hope this helps,

Shaya
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Re: sendmail queuing incoming mail

1996-08-19 Thread Nikita Schmidt
>I'm trying to figure out why my incoming mail (coming in via uucp) is being
>queued up instead of being delivered straight to my mailbox.

Maybe this happens because of rmail that invokes sendmail with -odq
to explicitly specify queue delivery mode?
Try rmail -T to check the arguments it passes to sendmail.

Kit.



mailagent and MH

1996-08-19 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
I have just begun using mailagent, and am hoping for some enlightenment
regarding its behaviour.

I fetch mail from my ISP using a line like:
popclient -3 -P ~/.my_password_file my_ISPs_mailhost

This mail is processed by my ~/.rules file, and messages which aren't 
automatically refiled as a result of matching one of the rules are then
stored in the file ~/mbox.sgk, which has the same format as 
/var/spool/mail/sgk.

Then I try to fetch mail messages from mbox.sgk into my MH inbox,
by executing:   
   inc -file ~/mbox.sgk

What's odd is that I often have to execute inc more than 1 time -- sometimes
2 times, to get all the files from mbox.sgk into +inbox.  For example, 
as a result of running popclient, I might see that 4 messages are being
obtained from my ISP.  Then if I run inc -file ~/mbox.sgk, I might see
one mail message (and none have been added to any of the folders that
match my ~/.rules).  If I run inc -file ~/mbox.sgk again, I might see
that same message, plus another 3 messages.  

Another confusing point is that even though my ~/.mh_profile says
   inc: -norpop -truncate -audit audit-file
the file mbox.sgk is not zero'd after I fetch the files in it.

Seeking advice,
Susan Kleinmann



Re: [Fwd: Virus Alert]

1996-08-19 Thread Dominik Kubla
> Terry Eck writes:

> I remember reading about this several months ago. It was the opinion
> of most people at the time to be just a joke. Anyone know for sure
> if it is anything other than a joke?  Terry

It is. There is even a FAQ about it.  I will dig out the URL ...

Dominik




Re: German manpages

1996-08-19 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hi,

> Please get the actual release of it, the documentation contains a
> paragraph inspired by Ray Dassen that describes how to activate them.
Well, setting LANG works with them, thanks. But I cant find any
documentation in the binary package... (the readme itself desnt contain
anything (btw: it is in german *ugh*)).

Greetings
Bernd



Re: Problem with 3C509 ifconfig

1996-08-19 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
> >ping: sendto: Network is unreachable
> >ping: wrote 166.117.11.123 64 chars, ret=-1

> >Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt 
> >Iface
> >166.117.11.125  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1500 0  0 eth0
> >127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U  3584 0  0 lo
There is no default an no net route, therefore the kernel doesnt know how to
reach 166.117.11.123.

Greetings
Bernd



Re: dosemu

1996-08-19 Thread Steffen Mueller
On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Dave Holland wrote:

Hi Dave,

> I'd suggest not getting a Matrox card -- I believe they're not supported
> by XFree86 because Matrox won't release technical details of their
> cards. Go for something S3-based instead...

True that it isn't supportet by the generic XF86 package but it IS
supportet by the accelerated servers and have a great performance.

The accelerated X servers are commercial though but are effordable !

Greetings,

Steffen
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Re: vfat/msdos depend on fat

1996-08-19 Thread Michael Meskes
Hamish Moffatt writes:
> I compiled a custom kernel last night, and made fat, msdos and vfat all
> modules. msdos and vfat depend on fat to operate, and it seems that
> /etc/modules gets processed later than mounting all file systems;

That's what the auto option is for.

> vfat gets inserted before fat, and hence doesn't work. I notice that
> the precompiled Debian kernel compiles FAT support in, not as a module.

Ah, please upgrade to modules_2.0.0-8. There's is a bug in depmod in version
-6 and -7. Unfortunately -8 is still in incoming, but you can get it from
feivel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de:/pub/debian.incoming.

Michael

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Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-19 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Bruce Perens wrote:
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (renald loignon)
> > May I ask, in all seriousness, and without a trace of sarcasm, where in the
> > world (BUT preferably in the Debian installation instructions) one is
> > expected to find this information?  I was used to the old
> > "cdu31a=0xPORT,IRQ" syntax from the boot prompt, or as an "append=..." line
> > in /etc/lilo.conf
> 
> I don't see that it is documented at all outside of the kernel source.

I'm getting confused.  Isn't the purpose of /usr/lib/module_help/arguments
to document the arguments that can be given to a module when it is activated?

?,
Susan Kleinmann



Re: Solved: mouse problem (running both gpm and X)

1996-08-19 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Charles --

You asked:
> I can't get my logitech serial mouse to work under X on any of the three
> machines where I've attempted to use X.
> 
> Should I "ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/mouse" if my serial mouse is connected to
> the first serial port?

That ought to work.  

I also have a Logitech serial mouse.  I have the link you mention,
and this is my Pointer section in /etc/X11/XF86Config:

Section "Pointer"
Protocol"MouseMan"
Device  "/dev/mouse"


HTH,
Susan Kleinmann



vfat/msdos depend on fat

1996-08-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt

I compiled a custom kernel last night, and made fat, msdos and vfat all
modules. msdos and vfat depend on fat to operate, and it seems that
/etc/modules gets processed later than mounting all file systems;
vfat gets inserted before fat, and hence doesn't work. I notice that
the precompiled Debian kernel compiles FAT support in, not as a module.

Is there any way to fix this for me besides recompiling the kernel?

Also, is a package of a later kernel [2.0.13 for example] in the works,
with NFS fixed? I'm back with 2.0.0 now because I need NFS.



thanks,
Hamish




Re: ALPHA: pe package - periodic execution

1996-08-19 Thread Michael Meskes
Christian Schwarz writes:
> I just rewrote my pe program and made a debian package. Here is what it's
> for:
> ...
> If this is useful for others too, I want to include it in the Debian
> distribution. I just tried to upload it to ftp.debian.org, but there is a

The site is master.debian.org anyway. If you have problems like this you
should write to debian-devel not debian.users.

> So for now I had just placed it on my web space. Every one can get it via
> =09http://www.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/pe_0.2-1_all.deb
> and the source is
> =09http://www.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/pe_0.2-1.tar.gz

Unfortunately it's not possible to get them. There's a permission problem.

Michael

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Re: dosemu

1996-08-19 Thread Dave Holland
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Well, I'm currently using a Cirrus Logic GD5434, which works fine
>with XFree in 8 bit mode, but produces streaks at higher bpp's. Anyway,
>I'm getting a Matrox soon, a real speedster. Thanx for your time...

I'd suggest not getting a Matrox card -- I believe they're not supported
by XFree86 because Matrox won't release technical details of their
cards. Go for something S3-based instead...

Regards,

Dave Holland



RE: How do I allow users to run a single command as root?

1996-08-19 Thread Casper BodenCummins
You're quite right, Rob: it /is/ a really bad idea if you don't know
what you're doing. However, we need to bear in mind that:

  (a) packages which control superuser execution are not generally
  found in distributed commercial UNICES (and how many sysadmins
  have the time or the inclination to seek out these packages?);
  (b) it is a valid and extremely useful feature which, like many
  aspects of UNIX, combine power and risk.

Any self-respecting UNIX administrator should make themselves aware of
the potential risks of the commands and facilities that they use. This
understanding is vital when making decisions about reducing risk, and in
knowing which solutions are available.

In this particular case, I agree with Rob that a utility like sudo is
the answer. We are particularly lucky with Linux that we have such a
variety of useful packages available.

Casper Boden-Cummins.
 

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>Sent:  16 August 1996 16:25
>To:debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Cc:The recipient's address is unknown.
>Subject:   Re: How do I allow users to run a single command as root?
>
>Casper BodenCummins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> What you need here is to set the setuid bit. Run this command as root:
>> 
>>chmod +s filename
>
>Not to be nasty, but this is generally a *REALLY BAD IDEA* unless you
>know *exactly* what you are doing.  If "filename" was not designed with
>extremely careful attention to the fact that it's going to be run suid
>root, you can be opening up your system to all kinds of security
>attacks, or accidental disasters by enabling suid root.
>
>I'm talking about attention to things like explicitly setting the
>PATH, checking and setting IFS, etc.  If it's a perl script, using the
>"taint" checks helps, but you have to know enough perl to be able to
>fix the problems it reports.
>
>Don't do this.  Use sudo, super, or some equivalent.
>
>[end preach mode]
>
>--
>Rob
>
>



libtiff?

1996-08-19 Thread Larry 'Daffy' Daffner

Trying to install libtiff3-gif says it depends on libtiff3, but the
dependency listing says libtiff3 doesn't appear to be available.
What's the deal here and how can I fix it?

-Larry

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Re: Solved: mouse problem (running both gpm and X)

1996-08-19 Thread Jeppe Sigbrandt
> I can't get my logitech serial mouse to work under X on any of the three
> machines where I've attempted to use X.
> 
> Should I "ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/mouse" if my serial mouse is connected to
> the first serial port?
>  

Charles

there's certainly no harm in doing that (theres a big difference 
between ttyS0 and ttys0, don't make that mistake)
Are you sure the kernels were configured with serial support?
Have you exhausted the possibilities in the xf86config file?

Regards,
jay



Re: #1, make it boot. Engage.

1996-08-19 Thread salwen
> My number one stumbling block with Linux seems to be making it boot.
>
> I've a kernel on the /dev/sda2 partition in the /boot directory,
> and it's called vmlinuz.   My boot partition doesn't seem to be set
> correctly, because it's not booting /dev/sda2 as root.  Instead, it
> displays "Loading Linux ", then "boot: " and then 
> "Loading Linux " again in an endless loop. 

Is it possible that you have a disk that is bigger than your bios rom
knows how to handle?  Or that you changed the kernel but didn't run lilo
again?



Re: [Fwd: Virus Alert]

1996-08-19 Thread Christian Lynbech
> "Rob" == Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Rob> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Eck) writes:

Rob> Well, I'd like to see the code for the infinite loop that'd melt
Rob> down my processor.  I've written a few in my time (accidentally),
Rob> and the machine's still here.

Well, lucky you. :-)

The issue of destroying a computer through software was once (probably
has been several times) discussed on alt.folklore.computers. 

It is (or rather was) possible, but only in one known case. I do not
remember many details, but some old microcomputer (Commodore of some
sort I believe) allowed you to flip a bit in a register on the video
chip that would cause power to build up somewhere until the chip
eventually died.


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Re: GOOD TIMES

1996-08-19 Thread salwen

> Goodtimes isn't real. And Clinton is not sincere.

Sorry to jump in here but I can't let this go by.  After watching the
Republicans talk about inclusion as they press to deny benefits to
*legal* aliens and then talk about a balanced budget ammendment as
they again propose budget busting tax cuts for the wealthy I would
have to say:

  Clinton isn't perfectly sincere, but he is a lot more sincere than Dole.


This is not supposed to be a political forum but there is nothing wrong with
personal opinions in a signature.  On the other hand purely political
messages should be avoided. (Note that I just broke my rule.  Sorry again.)

Nathan Salwen



Re: [linux-support] Access to 1.2.8 from 2.0.6

1996-08-19 Thread bofh
   Here's a message that I originally sent to some Linux ISP mailing
lists.  I believe that it may be suitable for this list.

  Russell Coker

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 96 22:17:56 -0500
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Subject: Re: [linux-support] Access to 1.2.8 from 2.0.6
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: bofh

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/17/96 at 01:57
AM,
   Mark Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

  I am having a problem which may be related.  I'm running a small ISP and
an Internet cafe.  I have 2 servers a Debian system and a Slackware
system.  Dial-up users who are unfortunate enough to be using Windows 3.1
and trumpet or Win95 are the only ones affected (users of OS/2, Linux, and
NT have no problems).  What happens is that when they establish a TCP
connection to the debian system data will be transferred very slowly.  I
have both the Slackware and Debian systems running as PPP servers and no
matter which one the poor Windows user connects to they will get very poor
throughput when transferring data to the Debian system.  So if a user
connects via PPP to the Debian system and then transfers data to the
Slackware system then everything will be fine.  Obviously the Debian
system is routing IP packets correctly, but there is some problem with TCP
(could be MSS).
   I have taken the Debian system from version 0.96R3 (a.out) with kernel
~1.3.60 to 1.1 (ELF) with kernel 2.0.13 and it made no difference.  If you
know what I could do (or even some useful tests I could run to get more
information) then please let me know.

>I recently installed a Debian 1.1 system with the 2.0.6 kernel. 
>I couldn't have asked for a smoother install from a Windoze package, so
>kudos to the development team!  Had one glitch with Majordomo 1.93, but
>that's another e-mail sometime :)  Now, onto the real problem
>I am having problems accessing data (ie. mail, web, etc.) on a
>pre-existing (prehistoric?) Slakware 1.2.8 host from Mac/FreePPP and 
>Win95 PPP clients of the Debian  host.  Win31/Trumpet clients work just 
>fine.  For example, I can establish a PPP connection from a Win95 client
>into the Debian box, TELNET into the Slakware box, type 'ls /tmp', and
>get a file  listing (only a few files).  However, if I transfer more data
>(ie.'ls /etc' or 'w'), 
>the output hangs.  I cannot retrieve web pages from the Slakware server,
>nor access mailboxes NFS-mounted on Debian from Slakware.  Anything  that
>appears to transfer much data back to the PPP client (through  the Debian
>host) hangs.  All this *seems* to work fine going the other way  (PPP to
>Slakware then access Debian), but I haven't tested enough to be  sure (at
>2am things get fuzzy).  I suspect a MTU/MSS problem.
>The only odd thing I can see is a difference in the maximum
>segment  size on the Debian and Slakware hosts.  Slakware shows MTU of
>576 and MSS of 512 for PPP devices, where Debian shows 576 for both. 
>Same for the ethernet device (1500MTU on both, 1436MSS on Slakware and
>1500MSS on Debian).  I used ifconfig to change the MSS on Debian's eth0
>device (didn't know how to do the same on PPP devices) and recompiled the
> kernel to disable MTU path disocovery to no avail.  I'm at a loss, and
>hope  someone on this list has already come across this.  I can send any
>configs  or test results necessary to diagnosis.  I'd sure appreciate any
>insight out  there on this!
>Th
>k you,
>Ma



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Announce: ImageMagick package

1996-08-19 Thread Philippe Troin

I've debianized Imagemagick and contacted Bruce for transfering it 
to the
ftp archive. In the meantime, you can get it from anonymous ftp from
ftp://ftp.fifi.org/pub/debian
There are three packages:
o imagemagick (executables with shared library)
o imagemagick-dev (include files, little use)
o imagemagick-doc (html pages you can find at 
http://www.wizards.dupont.com/cristy/ImageMagick.html)

The packages requireone library (libpng1) which is not included in 
Debian-1.1. 
You can retrieve it from ftp.debian.org as usual.

Package: imagemagick
Version: 3.7.5-1
Architecture: i386
Maintainer: Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Priority: extra
Section: non-free
Provides: X11-image-viewer
Suggests: imagemagick-doc, imagemagick-dev
Depends: X11R6, elf-x11r6lib, libtiff3, libjpeg6a, libpng1
Description: Image manipulation programs.
  Imagemagick is a set of programs to manipulate various image formats
  (JPEG, TIFF, PhotoCD, PBM, XPM, etc...). All manipulations can
  be achieved through shell commands as well as through a X11 graphical
  interface (display).
  .
  Possible effects: colormap manipulation, channel operations, thumbnail
  creation, image annotation, limited drawing, image distortion, etc...
  .
  The creators of the GIF format require the following 
  acknowledgement:
  .
  The Graphics Interchange Format(c) is the Copyright property of
  CompuServe Incorporated. GIF(sm) is a Service Mark property of
  CompuServe Incorporated.

Package: imagemagick-dev
Version: 3.7.5-1
Architecture: i386
Maintainer: Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Priority: extra
Section: non-free
Depends: imagemagick
Description: Image manipulation programs development kit.
  This the ImageMagick development toolkit (non-shared library & include
  files). There is currently no documentation for the libMagick routines.
  .
  The creators of the GIF format require the following 
  acknowledgement:
  .
  The Graphics Interchange Format(c) is the Copyright property of
  CompuServe Incorporated. GIF(sm) is a Service Mark property of
  CompuServe Incorporated.

Package: imagemagick-doc
Version: 3.7.5-1
Architecture: all
Maintainer: Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Priority: extra
Section: non-free
Depends: imagemagick
Description: Documentation (HTML pages) for ImageMagick.
  Copy of the ImageMagick web site.

-- 
Phil.




Re: Solved: mouse problem (running both gpm and X)

1996-08-19 Thread Charles A. Schuman

On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Mark Phillips wrote:

> You may recall I posted, complaining that I had to kill gpm before I
> could get X to run.  I solved the problem by changing the mouse device
> over to /dev/ttyS0 (whereas before it was /dev/cua0).  Now things work
> fine!
> 
> Am I right in thinking that the cua devices are now obsolete and that
> ttyS devices are the way to go?

I can't get my logitech serial mouse to work under X on any of the three
machines where I've attempted to use X.

Should I "ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/mouse" if my serial mouse is connected to
the first serial port?

Charles



#1, make it boot. Engage.

1996-08-19 Thread Charles A. Schuman

My number one stumbling block with Linux seems to be making it boot.

I've a kernel on the /dev/sda2 partition in the /boot directory,
and it's called vmlinuz.   My boot partition doesn't seem to be set
correctly, because it's not booting /dev/sda2 as root.  Instead, it
displays "Loading Linux ", then "boot: " and then 
"Loading Linux " again in an endless loop.  I've read about lilo,
and the lilo.conf file, but am not sure how to get the boot sector
configured correctly if I can't boot.   Is there any solution to this
dilema?

Charles



Re: Solved: mouse problem (running both gpm and X)

1996-08-19 Thread Rob Browning
Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Am I right in thinking that the cua devices are now obsolete and that
> ttyS devices are the way to go?

That's what I was told.  I found that switching solved my modem
problems.

--
Rob



Re: Solved: mouse problem (running both gpm and X)

1996-08-19 Thread Ervin D. Walter
Mark Phillips writes:
> 
> You may recall I posted, complaining that I had to kill gpm before I
> could get X to run.  I solved the problem by changing the mouse device
> over to /dev/ttyS0 (whereas before it was /dev/cua0).  Now things work
> fine!
> 
> Am I right in thinking that the cua devices are now obsolete and that
> ttyS devices are the way to go?
> 
> Mark.

This is sort of right.  /dev/cuaxxx are in most cases the wrong choice
because they implement kernel level locking.  What was happening was
that once one process (gpm) opens /dev/cua0, the kernel does not allow
another process (X) to use the same device.  The /dev/ttySxx are
specifically not designed this way.  They are designed with the idea
that intelligent programs will take care of their own locking (which
gpm and X do nicely) so more than one program can share the same
devices.

Erv

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Solved: mouse problem (running both gpm and X)

1996-08-19 Thread Mark Phillips
Hi - just a little note to say that I solved the problem with getting
X to work with gpm still running.

You may recall I posted, complaining that I had to kill gpm before I
could get X to run.  I solved the problem by changing the mouse device
over to /dev/ttyS0 (whereas before it was /dev/cua0).  Now things work
fine!

Am I right in thinking that the cua devices are now obsolete and that
ttyS devices are the way to go?

Mark.



Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-19 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (renald loignon)
> May I ask, in all seriousness, and without a trace of sarcasm, where in the
> world (BUT preferably in the Debian installation instructions) one is
> expected to find this information?  I was used to the old
> "cdu31a=0xPORT,IRQ" syntax from the boot prompt, or as an "append=..." line
> in /etc/lilo.conf

I don't see that it is documented at all outside of the kernel source.
And if you think that this is a serious problem in Debian, it is. And it's
not going to be helped unless more people like you volunteer to work on the
documentation.

Thanks

Bruce
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