Re: Linux and 6x86

1996-12-03 Thread Bruce Perens
It's been reported to work fine.

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amd for mail (?)

1996-12-03 Thread Fundamental
I wish to configure a debian mail server running smail to use users accounts
to store there mail box instead of /var/mail or /var/mail/spool.  Someone
said i could use amd to do this (as well as procmail).  After reading the
package description on amd, im not so sure i can use amd for this purpose.
What do people on the list think?

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Re: amd for mail (?)

1996-12-03 Thread Boris D. Beletsky
Hi Fundamental, You wrote:
 Fundamental
 Fundamental I wish to configure a debian mail server running smail
 Fundamental to use users accounts to store there mail box instead of
 Fundamental /var/mail or /var/mail/spool. Someone said i could use
 Fundamental amd to do this (as well as procmail). After reading the
 Fundamental package description on amd, im not so sure i can use amd
 Fundamental for this purpose. What do people on the list think?

Use procmail, or use qmail that stores users mail boxes in
$HOME by default.

Regards
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Re: Linux and 6x86

1996-12-03 Thread Paul Chau
A lot of people are happy with there 6x86 running linux. Maybe those 
games are intel sponsored.

PS: Intel is not bad either.

Cheers.
Paul

On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, GREENE KENNETH ADAM wrote:

   I was wondering about Linux and the Cyrix/IBM 6x86 (specifically 
 P120).  Does Linux support it, I know some video games don't support 
 the chip (or the chip doesn't support them |-).  If it is supported, 
 does everything run OK.  thanxs in advance for any responses.
 
 
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Configuring Network Card

1996-12-03 Thread Wayne Richardson
I am trying to add a network card and I am having a lot of trouble.  Can
anyone out there help?

When I enter the command ifconfig eth0 cr, I get:

eth0 Link encap:AMPR NET/ROM  HWaddr
inetaddr:143.122.16.109  Bcast:143.122.16.255 
Mask:255.255.255.0
BROADCAST RUNNING MTU:0   Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
Interrupt:5 Base Address:0x280

The inet, broadcast and mask addresses all look fine.  I am assuming that
since the program responded that it tested the IRQ5 and base address
for the network card (Is this a safe assumption?)

When I enter route -n cr, I get the following reponse

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MetricRefUse   Iface
127.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.0.0.0U00   
0lo

and that's it!  There is no entry for my network card.

So, I try to add it to the system.

When I enter the following: ifconfig eth0 143.122.16.109, I get:
SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device

If I then enter route add 143.122.16.109, I get
SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable

What's going on?

Thanks in advance,
Wayne Richardson 
Advanced Software Engineer
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Help with corrupt headers

1996-12-03 Thread Alex Derbes

 Hi,
 
I have just experianced some disk problems which resulted in some 
 headers in /usr/include (for example string.h) to be corrupted,
 
 what packages should I intall to replaced the headers and how do I do this?
 
 on a side note, is there anyway to get an Adaptec AHA-2920 SCSI 
 controller to work?
 
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Re: MS WORD format (and customizable telnet client) (fwd)

1996-12-03 Thread Alexander LIST
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Paul Seelig wrote:

 This was the case with the first beta because of a failure on behalf of
 the developers when they compiled the release. The newer betas are
 corrected in this regard. So you have to buy your Motif anyway. And apart
 from that it's still not even worth trying for people with standard
 hardware. StarOffice needs an incredible amount of resources. Don't even
 bother trying it unless you have a Pentium with at least 64 Megs of RAM.
 All else should be a real pain.

Sorry, I can't agree with you. At my site, we have several Am586/133 (ASUS
486 boards with the AMD processor), mostly 16MB of ram, and everything
NFS-mounted. It's true that the first beta was painfully slow, but it was
faster than booting Novell, Windows 3.11 and starting Word 6.

Now, with the second beta, it's a lot faster than Winword. Even with
16megs of RAM on a 486. Of course, I haven't tried it on my 386 yet...

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Can't install netscape (using dpkg)

1996-12-03 Thread Mark Phillips

Hi,

I tried to install netscape using dpkg by doing:

# dpkg --install netscape
dpkg: error processing netscape (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
 netscape


I don't know why this didn't work.  I get the following status
information for netscape:

# dpkg --status netscape
Package: netscape
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: contrib
Maintainer: Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 3.0-beta6-1
Provides: www-browser
Depends: X11R6, motifnls
Recommends: mime-support
Description: Popular World-Wide-Web browser software (installer)
 Netscape (pronounced Mozilla) is a graphical World-Wide-Web browser
 with many features.  It supports advanced features of HTML and new
 technologies such as Java from Sun Microsystems.
 .
 Netscape Communications Corporation does not allow redistribution of
 their software.  Therefore, this package requires the user to fetch
 the netscape archive seperately and place it in the directory pointed
 to by the TMPDIR environment variable (or /tmp if TMPDIR not defined)
 before attempting to install this package.  You can get the linux
 packages via anonymous ftp from ftp[1-9].netscape.com.
 .
 Do NOT try to install any version of Netscape other than 3.0-beta6
with
 this package!
 .
 Netscape Communications Corporation does not support the Linux
release
 in the slightest, even for paying customers.  It has been made
available
 purely as a courtesy, so please do not send them questions about
Linux.
 .
 This installer package has been placed in the public domain!


Any ideas?  Thanks,

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rex installation report

1996-12-03 Thread Debian Mailing-List

'lo

I installed Debian rex (frozen) this week-end
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I had some problems :

* perl-suid and perl-base written a lot of messages like :

try overwrite /usr/lib/perl5/
one is
try overwrite /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.00307/CORE/liberl.a

* kernel-sources-2.0.23_1.deb tar file or header file corrupted

the same problem occures with files from another 2 mirrors

* I added /usr/X11R6/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf to run xterm, fvwm 


I tried to upgrade Debian buzz just before, and I noticed:
-
* gzip and ppp require the new libc5 (5.4... i thing)
* kernel-sources-2.0.23_1.deb tar file or header file corrupted


Question:
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I have 2 NE2000 card. How can I configure conf.modules to use them ?
When I include modules in kernel, all is fine.


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dselect installation fails

1996-12-03 Thread Mark Phillips

Hi,

I have just tried using dselect to upgrade my system to the latest
version of rex (from an earlier version of rex) and ran into problems
with the installation stage.  I realize that rex hasn't yet been
officially released yet as 1.2, but I thought someone might like to
know of this bug.

This is what happens:

Looking for part 1 of libc5 ...
/root/ibox/debian/rex/binary-i386/base/libc5_5.4.13-1.deb
Running dpkg -iB for libc5 ...
(Reading database ... 26196 files and directories currently
installed.)
Preparing to replace libc5 (using .../base/libc5_5.4.13-1.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libc5 ...
Setting up libc5 (5.4.13-1) ...

dpkg: cannot see how to satisfy pre-dependency:
 perl pre-depends on libdl1
dpkg: cannot satisfy pre-dependencies for perl (wanted due to perl)

installation script returned error exit status 1.
Press RETURN to continue.


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Re: Linux and 6x86

1996-12-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
   I was wondering about Linux and the Cyrix/IBM 6x86 (specifically 
 P120).  Does Linux support it, I know some video games don't support 
 the chip (or the chip doesn't support them |-).  If it is supported, 
 does everything run OK.  thanxs in advance for any responses.

Absolutely no problems here. I have the P166+ and previously the P150+.
Works great, very snappy performance. There's a kernel patch which
enables Linux to recognise the CPU in /proc/cpuinfo and to enable
some Cyrix-specific optimisations, which also works fine but certainly
isn't essential.




Hamish


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Re: dselect via ftp probs

1996-12-03 Thread Andy Guy
Richard Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 Hi folks, sorry to bring up a quasi newbie prob, but here goes.  I had a
 buzz setup with 2.0.24, and after reading various messages about dselect I
 decided to go to the frozen level. Here is my trouble so far, I didn't
 have dpkg-ftp, so I went and got it, only it wouldn't configure.  Needed 
 perl, which I have, but didn't install with dselect.  Naughty me.  So, I 
 tried to grab the deb perl, and install it, but it needs libdl1.  
 Where is libdl1?  
 I've looked, to no avail.  
 The funny thing is, I think dpkg-ftp did install, because ftp is now an 
 option in dselect, only it doesn't seem to work.  It isn't getting the 
 packages files.  It connects, logs in as anonymous, changes to dir, exits, 
 but no new packages are available in the next step.  
 

You have to do:

 Setup - asks user for various pieces of info and only checks to see
if the distributions you asked for are there.
 
 Update - this downloads the package files and uses dpkg to update the
available package lists

 Select - (nothing to do with dpkg-ftp)
 
 Install - should then download any new packages and install them

Which option failed to work and which version are you using?

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Re: MS WORD format

1996-12-03 Thread Nils Naumann

Hallo,

 Daniel Does anyone know of a document reader/editor that will read Microsoft
 Daniel Word format?

This is something I need once a week at least. In fact, it is my only reason
for windows booting. So you can imagine how desperately I sought for such a
software, but no! I couldn't believe it! Any hint welcome!

If you have a licence of winword you may able to use this program with
wine.  This works for me with some success.  At least viewing and
saving works. But printing is not possible.

Nils


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Re: dpkg-ftp/dselect timestamping

1996-12-03 Thread Andy Guy
Christopher W Hafey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 dpkg-ftp, dselect --
 
 Is there a way to get these programs to timestamp 
 /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/debian/frozen/binary-i386/admin/* (and others)
 to what they are on ftp://debian.crosslink.net?
 
 (I'm doing 1.2 this weekend; so far, it's been not only flawless, but 
 improved advice given during the installs -- thanks all).
 
 When I use this method to upgrade, I usually backdoor the ftp'd
 files off the /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/ tree, into my permanent
 ftp archives, and thus slowly achieve a mirror of sorts.
 
 I'd like to see dselect offer the root account a way to
 
   -specify where the temporary archives (*.deb) are stored,
when using the ftp method of upgrading

This should already be possible (which version are you using?)

   -specify whether to use current time as the timestamp, or
mirror the archive's idea of the timestamp

The .deb files will never change after they have been released so this
shouldn't really be needed.  (Also getting it right is difficult in
all cases (the ftpd needs to support mdtm but that still gives you
local time.)

 Is this something I can specify outside dselect/dpkg-ftp?  As
 an environment that tells the underlying ftp mechanism to dupe
 the timestamps from the source server?

The underlying librarys I am using don't provide this functionality easily.

 
 Does dselect, when using the ftp method, ftp as root?

Err, no it ftps as whoever you tell it too (normally anonymous).  The
process is root but that shouldn't cause any problems.

Andy.


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Procmail

1996-12-03 Thread Daniel Stringfield
Can someone show me there .forward file for use with mail sorting with
procmail?  I've been fooling around with it for an hour now, and have not
made any real progress.

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Is frozen missing something?

1996-12-03 Thread Carlo U. Segre
Hello All:

I have just been checking on my local mirror and the ftp.debian.org sites 
and I notice that there are several packages missing from the frozen 
tree.  On my local mirror, these files are actually links to files in the 
frozen/binary-all/ part of the directory (which is completely empty) 
while on ftp.debian.org, the symbolic links are not even present!  Is 
this being checked out?  One consequence for me is that dselect refuses 
to run since it finds that all of these files are missing.

frozen/binary-i386/doc/emacs-lisp-intro_1.04-1.deb
frozen/binary-i386/graphics/glut-doc_3.1-3.deb
frozen/binary-i386/graphics/mesa-doc_2.0-2.deb
frozen/binary-i386/hamradio/p10cfgd_1.0-3.deb
frozen/binary-i386/mail/exmh_1.6.9-4.deb
frozen/binary-i386/mail/signify_1.01-1.deb
frozen/binary-i386/tex/xypic_3.2-4.deb: 
frozen/binary-i386/tex/texlib_1.0-5.deb: 
frozen/binary-i386/tex/babel_3.6-4.deb: 
frozen/binary-i386/tex/latex_2e-7.deb: 
frozen/binary-i386/tex/mflib_1.0-8.deb: 
frozen/binary-i386/tex/mfnfss_2.1g-2.deb
frozen/binary-i386/tex/ltxtool_1.0-4.deb
frozen/binary-i386/tex/latex2e-doc_1.6-1.deb
frozen/binary-i386/tex/hyperlatex_1.4pl2-1.deb
frozen/binary-i386/tex/mfbasfnt_1.0-7.deb
frozen/binary-i386/x11/xmanpages_3.2-1.deb


Cheers 

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xvscan

1996-12-03 Thread Juan Cespedes
Hi everybody.  I have a HP ScanJet 4p Scanner, with Automatic
Document Feeder, and I would like to know if xvscan (or any other
scanning software) supports it (I mean the ADF).

BTW, do anyone know where can I buy it?

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MicroSuck makes me fume!

1996-12-03 Thread Daniel Stringfield
In response to someone's suggestion to get the Microfoft WOrd Viewer, and
run it under WINE.  Well. It sorta runs under wine.  It requires that
SHARE.EXE be loaded.  Uhg!  How do I get it to think I am running it?

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Re: tar misbahaving

1996-12-03 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Marek Duszynski wrote:

 Hello,
 
 A few days ago I noticed that my Debian 1.1 can not
 extract multivolume tar archives from floppies - each
 attempt ends up in segmentation fault.

I have had the same problem using taper and QIC80 tapes.  Even afio gives 
problems with any files which are split across tapes but then recovers.  
I really do not know the cause of this and it is causing me problems in 
getting the Debian distribution onto my home machines.  Any suggestions 
would be appreciated.

Cheers

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Re: Linux and 6x86

1996-12-03 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, GREENE KENNETH ADAM wrote:

   I was wondering about Linux and the Cyrix/IBM 6x86 (specifically 
 P120).  Does Linux support it, I know some video games don't support 
 the chip (or the chip doesn't support them |-).  If it is supported, 
 does everything run OK.  thanxs in advance for any responses.
 

I have successfully run linux on a Cyrix 6x86 P133+ (120MHz clock).  It 
works just fine!

Cheers

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Re: MS WORD format (and customizable telnet client) (fwd)

1996-12-03 Thread Marco Mariani
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Jerzy Kakol wrote:

 Server. The incredibly ancient VT-100 standard should pass to
 history long time ago. I would like to use a terminal emulator exactly
 like between two Linuxes - with comfort of bash, arrow keys, color ls and so 
 on. So, does anybody know a DOS or Windows telnet client with configurable
 terminal definition in termcap or terminfo format? 

Try MS-KERMIT 3.14, you won't believe you're connecting from a DOS machine..

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit (if memory serves me well)


All The Best,
 Marco

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getting ppp up

1996-12-03 Thread Joe Emenaker
 
 Does anyone have any experience getting ppp started from a base system 
 that just has been installed in a computer? 

I just went through this yesterday pain in the ass (figuring it all
out, that is).

 I don't have any experience 
 with ppp because all my other debian systems have been connected to lans.
 
 I think I got my ppp.chatscript correct, but I can't get the modem to 
 dial.  

Well, here's what worked for me:

You need to tell pppd to use an input file. I used /etc/ppp/options.
The problem with it is that... well, there are a few, actually:
- The biggest is that it has a line that says disconnect with the 
  appropriate chat directives to disconnect the modem. What you need to
  do is comment out this line and put in a line that says something
  to the effect of:
connect chat -f /etc/ppp.chatscript
  which tells chat to use file /etc/ppp.chatscript. You might also want to
  toss a -v in before the -f to tell chat to log the conversation to 
  /var/log/ppp.log so that you can make sure it logged you in ok.
- Next, to make sure that you connect at the fastest speed, put 38400
  somewhere in the beginning of the options file.
- Also, somewhere near the beginning of the file, you should see a line 
  that says /dev/modem. You'll need to make a symbolic link from your
  appropriate serial line to /dev/modem. 
  For COM1: use ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/modem,
  for COM2: use ln -s /dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem, etc.
  The alternative is to change the /dev/modem in the options file so that
  it points directly to the appropriate serial port.

At that point, you should be able to get it to dial by typing:
  pppd file /etc/ppp/options

Go check your ppp.log file in /var/log. Just check the end of it by using
tail: tail /var/log/ppp.log and keep doing it for about a minute until
you either see something about a host IP and a peer IP address... either
that or something about Failure. Once you see either of those, you're
not going to see anything else that matters until you run pppd again.

Anyway, assuming that you get a peer IP and a host IP, then you're all set
*EXCEPT* for one major part that nobody ever tells you and that I haven't
been able to find in any howto anywhere:
You need to tell linux to use the peer IP address for all of your net
traffic.

To do this, first run route. You should see two lines, one with the IP
127.0.0.1 on the same line as lo0 (or something like that) and one
with another IP address (which is the IP of the peer you're connected to)
on the same line as ppp0. Write down that peer IP, because you're going
to use it.

Now, type:
route add default gw peer-ip metric 1 (where peer-ip is the address
of the peer that you just wrote down.

Now, if you run route you should see 3 lines... the third one listing the
peer as the default gateway. You should be ready to rock-n-roll now.
Try pinging some site whose IP address you know to know for sure.

To get nameservice working you'll need to edit your /etc/resolv.conf to 
point to the nameservers you want to use.

In the /etc/ppp directory, there are two scripts called ip-up and ip-down
that are executed when the connection goes up and comes down. You can
use this to automate that route command that I spoke of (why Debian
doesn't ship this way, I have no idea). Basically, the ip-up is called 
with several parameters: the baudrate, the serial device, the host IP,
the peer IP, etc. They tell you what they are in the script file...
in the comments. I *think* the peer IP is $4, so you'd put in a line that
says:
  route add default gw $4 metric 1 or whatever the right variable is.

I'm planning on putting together a set of chatscripts, options files, and
ip-up/ip-down's that will work pretty much right out of the box... to
put an end to this silly frustration once and for all.

- Joe


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video mode solved. cpp/gcc solved. kernel, X11?

1996-12-03 Thread Dr.-Ing. Andreas Wehler
Was: Remarks, installing rex from scratch
:  1) Don't give an entry
:   vga=[any number other than normal]
: in /etc/lilo.conf and launch lilo with that.  It will
: completely confuse dselect, and nobody is aware of this :-(

 Video modes are ok, forget about vga=... settings, use now
a resolution of 132x60. I was confused about learning
dselect, especially with cycling through the sorting options.

 cpp/gcc
 There is a dependency problem with cpp/gcc.  gcc depends on cpp and
replaces cpp!  So I 
a) installed cpp, purged gcc;
b) put cpp on hold and installed gcc.

 kernel sources
 The kernel sources aren't in rex, but dselect/dpkg didn't
complain about that.  It claims everything all right and
nothing happened.  Installed it per Hand from buzz, saying
dpkg -i 

 X11
 The fight with xlib6-dev_3.2-1.deb, xlib and
xlib6_3.2-1.deb is a mess.  Did get through to start a SVGA
server, with installing those per hand and setting them to
hold. They are new unclassified without section (?)

 X11
Common warnings ignored:
.  More than one copy of package xbase has been unpacked
.   in this run !  Only configuring it once.

which came for many packages in the past.

 X11
Then this one:
.  dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xpaste:
.   xpaste depends on xlibraries; however:
.Package xlibraries is not installed.
.Package xlib which provides xlibraries is not installed.
.  dpkg: error processing xpaste (--install):
.   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
.  Setting up xbase (3.2-1) ...


 Hope to get help or provide input for debugging at least.
Tired greetings,
Andreas.

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Re: Linux and 6x86

1996-12-03 Thread Jonas Bofjall
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, GREENE  KENNETH ADAM wrote:

 I was wondering about Linux and the Cyrix/IBM 6x86
 (specifically P120).  Does Linux support it

I am running Debian GNU/Linux on an Cyrix/IBM P-150+ and it runs like a
charm. No problems (yet). I am sporadically running maybe an hour a day
for three or four months now. X works as well.

 I know some video games don't support 
 the chip (or the chip doesn't support them |-). 

What?! Could you please post me more info about this.
Which ones? I know Quake runs a little bit slower on Cyrixes because of
the slower fpu (but still a lot faster per dollar than the pentium!!),
and NT 4 has somewhat degraded performance which can be fixed with a
patch. But so far (until now :) ) I haven't heard of *anything* that
doesn't run at all on a Cyrix.

 If it is supported, does everything run OK.

AFAIK yes. I have seen some Cyrix kernel patches (on the Linux v2 info
HQ), but I don't know what they actually do as I haven't tried them.
There is also some programs which can view some Cyrix-specific registers
but I haven't looked at them since I don't understand its uses.

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Re: Help with corrupt headers

1996-12-03 Thread Debian Mailing-List

  Hi,
  
   I have just experianced some disk problems which resulted in some 
  headers in /usr/include (for example string.h) to be corrupted,

look in .../debian/stable/binary???/Contents for include/string.h
and you will find libc5-dev

  
  what packages should I intall to replaced the headers and how do I do this?
  

libc5-dev and a lot of other packages !



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/etc/hosts and BIND autoconversion

1996-12-03 Thread Adam Heath
A while back I saw mentioned in a message about some utility that would
read the '/etc/hosts' file and convert it into the BIND database.  I would
like to have this program.  I have a DOS-based tcp program that can't use a
hosts file, but can use BIND.  I  have BIND running locally, but I need the
to have the DOS program be able to access the other systems by name.

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Re: what is libdl1 ?

1996-12-03 Thread Martin Alonso Soto Jacome
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I am getting several packages in the frozen and contrib trees saying 
 that  they pre-depend on a 'libdl1' package which I cannot seem to 
 find  anywhere.  Can anyone help? 

It seems that the last ld.so provides libdl1:

Package: ldso
Essential: yes
Status: install ok installed
Priority: required
Section: base
Maintainer: David Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Source: ld.so
Version: 1.8.5-1
Replaces: libc
Provides: libdl1
Conffiles:
 /etc/ld.so.conf bcdcb23c5d5fb460cee2ce315ef7bd32
Description: The Linux dynamic linker, library and utilities.
 The dynamic linker provides the user-level support for loading and
 linking DLL and ELF shared libraries.  It is required by any program
 that uses shared libraries, which is just about all of them.


Regards,

M. S.

Martin A. Soto J.   Profesor
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debian pre1.2

1996-12-03 Thread Tan Wee Yeh
Hi,

I have just tried debain pre1.2 and have the following comments.

1) Overall, the installation is very smooth with very few 
hiccups.

2) It seems that most of the kernel options have been compiled-in.
This is opposed to the previous version when users are free
to configure the kernel after installing it.  This results in
loading lots of useless modules on starting up, eg, lots of
cdrom interfaces.

3) Upon reboot, the installation no longer ask for root password
add a default user and go into dselect directly.  An experienced
user may find this ok but this little automation can really 
help a novice user.

4) It seems that even though I have xbase3.2 debian files in my
directory, dselect does not allow installation of that option.
However upon reaching installation of xbase3.1, it prompts if
I'd rather install 3.2 instead.  Answering yes results in a
number of changes to the configuration (i cannot catch all of
them) that resulted in a crippled x installation. 
 
The above are just minor hiccups I have experienced.  All else 
I have tried worked.


Just me,
Wire ...


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It could happen to you (was Re: network cards and POST failures)

1996-12-03 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hello everyone,

at last, the strange problems I was having with my Linux box at reboot time
is solved. I followed Donald Becker's recommendation about putting
/sbin/ifconfig eth0 down at the very end of the reboot script and this
fixes everything. Now everything is crystal-clear to me.

I agree with Bruce that the Debian distribution should take care of shutting
down Ethernet devices before rebooting.

As an example, I was getting this error in my desktop machine everytime I
rebooted the Linux box: eth0: Bus master arbitration failure, status 88f2
Since my desktop machine is not a production machine (I am the only one that
uses it) and that I first saw this error after a kernel upgrade, I did not
waste much time finding the cause. Each time I got that error I just cycled
power to the computer and everything worked fine after that. Well, the
Ethernet card here is also a NE2100 compatible (it's a BocaLAN Card, using
the lance.c driver) and it does DMA. After I put /sbin/ifconfig eth0 down
at the bottom of /etc/init.d/reboot the problem went away.

Beware!!! This problem could happen to you and you'll waste hours trying to
find what's wrong.

Regards,

Eloy.-

P.S. Somebody may want to post this to debian-devel@lists.debian.org because
I have no posting priviledges there.

At 12:46 PM 12/2/96 PST, Bruce Perens wrote:

Here's what Donald Becker had to say about Eloy Paris' problem in which
a network card caused RAM POST failures. This is perhaps something that
we should take care of in the shutdown scripts after NFS partitions are
unmounted and daemons are killed. We can use the output of netstat -i
to figure out what interfaces to shut down.

From: Donald Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:
 Eloy Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] has a DEC PC that fails
 the RAM POST only when the Boca PCnet32 card is present and a recent
 Linux kernel has just shut down. My uninformed speculation is that the
 card could be doing wild DMA, and I'm wondering if there's any special
 step that should be taken to shut down this card before rebooting.

That's a common BIOS bug.
The warm boot code should disable the bus-master capability on all cards.

What is happening is that the card is continuing to receive and store
packets into memory.  The work-around, which we must use here as well, is to
put 
  /sbin/ifconfig eth0 down
  /sbin/ifconfig eth1 down
  /sbin/ifconfig eth2 down
  /sbin/ifconfig eth3 down
in you shutdown script.  (Usually /etc/rc.d/rc.6, but Redhat is different.)
This will disable the cards.

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Re: Goodbye, all!

1996-12-03 Thread Dermot Bradley
On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

 These are the 1.1 boot disks from 6 months ago with initrd added and a
 few bug-fixes like keyboard configuration. It's not like it's a brand-new
 program.

Has the problem with the nfs module been fixed - the last few boot disks 
I made wouldn't load that module so I had to do FTP installs.

Dermot

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Re: Can't install netscape (using dpkg)

1996-12-03 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Mark Phillips wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 I tried to install netscape using dpkg by doing:
 
 # dpkg --install netscape
 dpkg: error processing netscape (--install):
  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  netscape
 
The second parameter must be a fully specified path to a .deb file.

Luck,

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Re: trn vs. inn

1996-12-03 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
Okay, lets see if this now gets past the spam filter..

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Debian Package [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,

i have some errors in /var/log/news/news.notice when invoking trn:

[timedate] barbar nnrpd[24517]: localhost.augusta.de connect
[timedate] barbar nnrpd[24517]: localhost.augusta.de unrecognized XMODE READER
[timedate] barbar nnrpd[24517]: localhost.augusta.de unrecognized XTHREAD 
DBINIT

That's not an error nor a problem; it's just an informational message.
Trn knows about some extensions to the NNTP protocol that INN doesn't. It
just tries the server to see which extensions are implemented.

One of the things you see is XMODE READER. INN implements this call, but
after it was standarized it's called MODE READER. Now trn doesn't know
what version of the NNTP standard the server implements so it tries both.
Ugly, but nothing to worry about.

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Re: Procmail

1996-12-03 Thread joost witteveen
 
 Can someone show me there .forward file for use with mail sorting with
 procmail?  I've been fooling around with it for an hour now, and have not
 made any real progress.


.forward:
|/usr/bin/procmail

and my .procmail: 

:0
* ^From.owner-linux-gcc
pr/lgcc

:0
* ^From.owner-linux-kernel
pr/kernel

:0
* X-Mailing-List: linux-security@
pr/security

[...and so on...]


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two net Q's: (1) serial nfs/ppp, (2) dropped gateway route

1996-12-03 Thread John M. Rulnick
I'm using the Debian 1.1 release, 2.0.6 kernel.  Two questions, one
concerning a serial cable link, the other on an ethernet:

(1) I'm accessing an nfs mounted drive on my desktop from my notebook
over a serial cable (thanks all!).  Sometimes it works great,
sometimes (especially when copying a long list of files) I get error,
server not responding, still trying.  The man page on the timeout
sequence doesn't seem to match what's happening: I get the error
message once, and the session locks up forever.  Will adjusting the
timeout fix this?  What's the *right* thing to do?

(2) Elsewhere, on a different machine, I've set up an ethernet
connection which generally is working well (after about a week now),
but twice today I've lost my gateway route without any notice or
warning.  Surely this isn't normal (right?) but what can I do?  Why
does this happen, and what's the best fix?  (My network and loopback
routes are intact, but I lose my gateway.  I have to restart to get it
back.)

Thank you for any pointers.

(As a newcomer to debian/linux networking, I'm trying to work out most
glitches by rolling up my sleeves, but these are semi-critical
problems so I'd greatly appreciate some quick help and/or correct
fixes if you can provide them.  Thanks.)


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Re: MS WORD format (and customizable telnet client)

1996-12-03 Thread Rick Macdonald
Marco Mariani wrote:
 
 On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Jerzy Kakol wrote:
 
  Server. The incredibly ancient VT-100 standard should pass to
  history long time ago. I would like to use a terminal emulator exactly
  like between two Linuxes - with comfort of bash, arrow keys, color ls and so
  on. So, does anybody know a DOS or Windows telnet client with configurable
  terminal definition in termcap or terminfo format?
 
 Try MS-KERMIT 3.14, you won't believe you're connecting from a DOS machine..
 
 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit (if memory serves me well)

Looks great. Too bad it says:

 NOTE: MS-DOS Kermit is not a Winsock client. 

in the middle of this page:

 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskoverview.html

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Is Debian 1.2 out yet?

1996-12-03 Thread juan j casero
 Hi Everyone -
 
 I tried to upgrade to Debian 1.1 a few weeks ago and went back to my old
 system when I couldn't recompile a custom kernel for my Linux box.  I'm
 still interested in Debian and I would like to know if 1.2 (aka REX) has
 been released yet.  I was a bit disappointed that I was not able to
 change over but as you can see I have not lost faith in Debian GNU/Linux.
 
 
 PS: please respond to my email address as I am not on this list.
 
 
 Thanks
 
 
 Juan Casero
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security

1996-12-03 Thread Alexander N. Benner
Shalom
I got a prg. from a friend wich can hack-root. I don't know if it is a known
prob. it works fine with 2.0.0
I don't know how to describe it, without posting the whole source.
Here some parts of it:

/* Mount Exploit for Linux, Jul 30 1996

[graphic]
Discovered and Coded by Bloodmask  Vio
Covin Security 1996
*/

[some includes]
#define PATH_MOUNT /bin/umount
#define BUFFER_SIZE 1024
#define DEFAULT_OFFSET 50
  [... main part...]

   (void)alarm((u_int)0);
   printf(Discovered and Coded by Bloodmask and Vio, Covin 1996\n);
   execl(PATH_MOUNT, mount, buff, NULL);
}

God bless
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Re: security

1996-12-03 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hi,

 /* Mount Exploit for Linux, Jul 30 1996

whats your version of the mount package? Should be fixed long ago... (if it
isnt another bug in mount):

Wed Aug 21 13:10:46 1996  Guy Maor  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Debian 1.1.6)
o Added mount 2.5l-1
  Fixes major security hole.

This is in buzz-fixed!

Greetings
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Re: Is Debian 1.2 out yet?

1996-12-03 Thread Bruce Perens
We suffered a lot of FTP server problems in the last few days, and are
currently attempting to build a working Packages file for Debian 1.2 .
The process is running now, I am watching it. We still need a few days
of testing X before the release. Please stay tuned...

Thanks

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Re: Compiling Perl from Source

1996-12-03 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Robyn Renwick wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 
 I am a second year computer science student working on a debian system. I
 recently completed a project where I compiled Perl from the source code.  I
 was asked to post my findings here as it may be helpful.  I did quite a long
 write-up, which I won't post here, but anyone who has further questions can
 email me if they like.
 
 I started with Perl5.003 and used gcc as the compiler.  For the most part,
 the default answers were fine as there was support for linux and the
 configure used it.  

Perl ought to compile just fine on Debian, since I use Debian to test the
perl distribution before I release it.  (Of course since no two Debian
systems need be exactly the same, there are always possibilities of
problems, but in practice I just generally track 'unstable' and haven't
had any problems.) 

Be careful about the default installation locations, however, since they
are rather generic Unix defaults and not necessarily consistent with
Debian standards.  You're best off doing something like

sh Configure -Dprefix=/usr/local -Dlocincpth=/usr/include/db

to keep it all in the /usr/local hierarchy.  (The /usr/include/db thing is
needed to pick up db/db.h.  Someday I'll fix that.)

Alternatively, you can use the Debian installation as a base and do

/usr/bin/perl -e 'use Config; print Config::config_sh;'  config.sh

to get the standard config.sh parameters, and then hand-edit the 
various installation directories.


 The first problem I had was not knowing which directories I wanted to use
 for library searches..the default was usr/local/lib and I had to add
 /lib and usr/lib when prompted to add additional ld flags.  I also had
 to add an additional cc flag for the compiler, which was
 -I/usr/local/include(the default was -Dbool=char - DHAS_BOOL). 

You don't need to add these since the compiler already searches them.

 The biggest problem that I encountered in compiling Perl was with the
 libraries. In the Perl that comes with debian, two libraries are required to
 be installed on the system, the libdb1 and libgdbm1 packages. To find out if
 they are installed, you type 'dpkg -l libdb1 ligdbm1'. If no packages are
 found which match, you just install the libdbl library and everything is
 fine.  When compiling from source, these libraries are required along with
 several others. The libraries which must be present are:
 
 -libndbm -libgdbm -libdbm -libdb -libdl -libdld -libm -libc

When compiling from source, these libraries are not required.  Configure
automatically figures out what you have and adjusts things accordingly.

 
 The other decision I had to make was whether to use dynamic loading or
 static.  Dynamic loading usually seemed to fail. Static loading can give you
 a fall-back position if dynamic loading isn't working, however it doesn't
 give you the optimum version of Perl.  However, once the libraries were in
 place, I was able to load dynamically.  The loader I used was dl_dlopen.xs.

Dynamic loading ought to work just fine with all the defaults.  If it
doesn't, you probably have a problem with your set-up.  Send me the
details and I'll try to help you sort it out.

Summary:  Perl ought to work nicely on Debian, and you can report it as a
bug to me if it doesn't.  If you *do* have problems, many of them are
discussed in the INSTALL file included with the perl distribution.

Note, however, that Debian's perl is quite up-to-date, so there's rarely a
need for you to compile it yourself.  You're of course welcome to do so,
however.

Have fun,

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Re: security

1996-12-03 Thread Alexander N. Benner
Shalom

It may be wrong, but I think it was Bernd Eckenfels who wrote 1996 AD:
  /* Mount Exploit for Linux, Jul 30 1996
 
 whats your version of the mount package? Should be fixed long ago... (if it
 isnt another bug in mount):

It was mount-package-2.5

 
 Wed Aug 21 13:10:46 1996  Guy Maor  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Debian 1.1.6)
 o Added mount 2.5l-1
   Fixes major security hole.
 
 This is in buzz-fixed!
 

I now installed mount 2.5j from buzz

The hack _still works_ so it seemed to be an other problem. I didn't have the
chance to trie it on an other computer than mine :)
I just installed the mount packege with --force-depend , so I don't know if
the prob is maybe outside of mount

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Re: security

1996-12-03 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
  o Added mount 2.5l-1
Fixes major security hole.
 I now installed mount 2.5j from buzz

I guess 2.5j is OLDER than 2.5l... umm...

 The hack _still works_ so it seemed to be an other problem.

Please be sure to get the fixed version of mount, and then try again. You
should be able to get it from buzz-fixed or in buzz-upgrades.

Greetings
Bernd


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Re: Netscape - bus error

1996-12-03 Thread Paul Christenson
On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Pedro Quaresma wrote:

 netscape_3.01-1.deb
 and
 netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz 

[...]

 bus error
 $

I got the 'bus error' whenever I tried to access the c|net homepage
(www.cnet.com).  However, I was running 3.0, without the Debian package.
(Direct in /usr/local/bin.)

I was going to upgrade to 3.01 before reporting it.

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Re: innd mmap

1996-12-03 Thread Craig Sanders

On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

 You (Craig Sanders) wrote:
  my news box is regularly throttling with the log message File exists
  writing symlinking article file -- throttling.
 
 How's your disk? Do you see many ext2 errors?

yeah, a few

there's some weird corrupted files in /var/spool/news/control, too:

c---r-   1 8736 30054116,  32 Apr  4  1987 504023
cr-Sr-sr-x   1 115658224  32,  32 Jan 30  1987 504024
br-x-w   1 2674028270110, 105 Mar 21  2029 504027
br-xrt   1 1189128015108, 101 May 22  2031 504028
br-sr-srwx   1 2819328265112,  45 May 22  2031 504029
c---r-   1 2849930068 32, 101 Mar 30  2029 504048
br-xrwS---   1 269948294 101, 109 Mar  9  2029 504049
br-xrwSr--   1 1496228520104, 116 Nov 26  2023 504050

These can't be deleted, moved, chmod-ed, chattr-ed, or anything.
Any attempt to do something to the files results in Operation not
permitted (btw, this is what they look like AFTER running e2fsck on the
partition - unmounted, of course - they used to have unreasonably large
sizes before that...4gb and more)

I'm going to reformat the drive when i have the time to bring the system
down for a few hours.

   Trying to use MMAP on Linux
  
  Is this still true for linux?
 
 No. we are running INN with mmap() on on all our news servers (inn 1.4unoff4,
 linux-2.0.25 or so) and we have 5 feeds in totalling about 400 Mb/day, 30
 or 40 feeds out (small ones like linux.* and a couple of full ones).

OK, sounds good to me.

Are any of these feeds uucp?

My main newsfeed is uucp over a trailblazer modem - bandwidth is
expensive here in australia and there's better things to use it for than
usenet news.

  Has inn for debian been compiled with MMAP turned off?  If not, should
  this be reported as a bug against inn? 
 
 AFAIK, nobody has complained about this yet - however I have seen the
 same problem in the following cases:

from what you say, it isn't a problem anyway.

 1) rmgroup immideately followed by a makegroup control message (resets
the counters to 0 but doesn't delete the articles)


 2) Harddisk problems, especially 4Gb disks go bad very fast IME.

i suspect that this is the likely cause. either the hard disk or the
ide controller. it's a new quantum bigfoot, 2.5GB, on an ASUS SP3G PCI
motherboard. The bigfoot drive only got put in a few months ago, to
replace a seagate 1GB scsi drive (which was big, fast, and extremely
noisy - the bigfoot is slower but bigger and wonderfully quiet)

I used to get the same problem with the old seagate scsi drive, just not
as often...which could be due to the fact that i'm now keeping news for
twice as long.

I've kludged a temporary fix. I run 'ctlinnd renumber' before and after
news.daily in my fixnews.nightly script. My fixnews.weekly script
rebuilds the history file and then runs fixnews.nightly.

it's not a real fix, but it stops the error messages, and prevents
/var/spool/news/.incoming from filling up with hundreds of megabytes of
compressed rnews batches which inn cant process due to being throttled
(news is very low priority - sometimes i dont notice theres a problem
for a day or two).


 BTW, I'm not planning a 1.4unoff4-2 at this time (though I have one
 available) but instead I want inn1.5 in bo. Under Linux, it doesn't
 make much difference if you have mmap() on or off because the buffer
 cache is so good. If people prefere to have it turned off, that's no
 problem with me.

1.5 went out of beta just recently, i saw the release version on the ISC
INN web page.


Craig


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Re: innd mmap

1996-12-03 Thread Craig Sanders

On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

  my news box is regularly throttling with the log message File exists
  writing symlinking article file -- throttling.
 
 Try rebuilding your history file - IIRC this has worked for me (albeit
 under Solaris 2.5 rather than Linux).

yep, that's part of how i fix it. i'd rather not have to do that - it
seems to happen once a week or more.

i've edited my nightly scripts to run 'ctlinnd renumber' as well as
news.daily.  Hopefully that will prevent the problem from occuring.

Craig


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gdb and dynamically loaded code

1996-12-03 Thread Douglas Bates
I have version 4.16-2 of the gdb package installed.  When I start gdb
I get the warnings
 warning: Unable to find dynamic linker breakpoint function.
 warning: GDB will be unable to debug shared library initializers
 warning: and track explicitly loaded dynamic code.

It would be very helpful to me to be able to set breakpoints within
dynamically loaded code.  Is there something I can change in the
set-up for gdb to allow me to track explicitly loaded dynamic code?

Thanks in advance.  Please reply by e-mail as I only receive the digests
of this list now.


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