Re: how to rebuild mgetty_0.99.2-6

1996-12-25 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Sim Yskes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 as i cannot find a complete source package for mgetty, i assume i should
 rebuild it by taking mgetty_0.99.2.orig.tar.gz, tar xvfz it and apply the
 mgetty_0.99.2-6.diff on it.

Yes, but there's an automated way to do this. Get the .tar.gz file,
the .diff.gz file, and the .dsc file. Run dpkg-source -x mgetty_*.dsc .

 But the result of this action is something what doesn't look like
 a debian package. no debian.* files to be found.

We changed the package layout. Look for a debian subdirectory
containing files like rules, control, etc.

You might have to install the debmake package if any part of its utilities
was used to produce that package.

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: Debian 1.2 install problem - short memory

1996-12-25 Thread Bruce Perens
Yes, it's probably low RAM. See if you can get that reserved 384k
relocated to extended memory. Where it is now, it's quite useless.
I test the boot set on a 4MB laptop, but one that doesn't waste that 384k.

A special kernel with only the devices you need might solve the problem,
if you can't relocate that 384k. There are some quite large device drivers
that you don't need. That laptop uses IDE disks, right?

Thanks

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Debian 1.2 rescue disk reboots Toshiba Tecra laptop

1996-12-25 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Greetings!

I have a Debian 1.2 CD from iConnect.  When I boot my Toshiba Tecra
730CDT laptop from the rescue floppy (either resq1440.bin or the new
new-resq1440.bin) I get Loading root.bin  and Loading
linux , and then the laptop reboots from the floopy,
giving me the boot: prompt again.

At http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/, Jens Maurer reports that
his Tecra Laptop cannot load bzImage format kernels.  (He has
submitted a kernel patch for this.)  Does the rescue floppy use a
bzImage kernel?

I do have a Debian 1.1.11 CD (PHT Nov 96 Monthly Archive), and I can
boot from its installation boot and root disks.

Will I be able to get a Debian 1.2 rescue floppy for this laptop?  If
not, I can install 1.1 and then upgrade to 1.2.  Is it possible to
shift to 1.2 part way through the installation, either by providing
the 1.2 base disks or by substituting the 1.2 CD when I reboot, or do
I need to run dselect on 1.1 before shift to the 1.2 upgrade?

This problem does not affect loadlin.

Thanks,
Kirk Hilliard

P.S.  Is someone maintaining a list of 1.2 glitches and simple fixes?


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Re: how to rebuild mgetty_0.99.2-6

1996-12-25 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
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On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, Sim Yskes wrote:

 as i cannot find a complete source package for mgetty, i assume i should
 rebuild it by taking mgetty_0.99.2.orig.tar.gz, tar xvfz it and apply the
 mgetty_0.99.2-6.diff on it. But the result of this action is something
 what doesn't look like a debian package. no debian.* files to be found.
 The patch seems to run ok, so i think that both versions do not match, but
 i'm not sure.   
 So, what did i do wrong.

After tar xzvf the .orig.tar.gz, you have to rename mgetty_0.99.2.orig
directory to just mgetty_0.99.2, then you can apply the patch by doing a
zcat mgetty_0.99.2-6.diff | patch -p0, and then you have to remove all
the .orig files.

But you might better download the .dsc file from the same directory you
downloaded the .orig.tar.gz and the .diff.gz and do:

dpkg-source -x mgetty_0.99.2-6.dsc

And, voila, dpkg-source does everything for you.

This should work with all the new packages. Remember to install the dpkg-deb
package (which contains dpkg-source and other tools).

Good night.

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Re: Problems with Talk under Debian

1996-12-25 Thread Gerry Jensen
On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, John Goerzen wrote:

 I have been having problems with talk and ytalk under Linux.  Any help would
 be greatly appreciated!

I had trouble with this too.  I believe one problem is that the host name
of your machine must match the IP address of your machine.  Otherwise,
other talk daemons won't talk to you.  If you are given a dynamic IP
address by your ISP, then it almost certainly doesn't match.  So, you must
set the host name of your machine to match the given IP number after you
establish your PPP/SLIP connection.  You can set it with the hostname
command.  I have the following line in /etc/ppp/ip-up to do this for me
automatically whenever I establish a PPP connection: 

  /bin/hostname `/usr/bin/host $4 | head -1 | cut -f 2 -d  `

Also, reverse name lookup must be set up correctly by whomever is in
charge of your domain (probably your ISP).  Otherwise, you will not be
able to initiate a talk connection, although I think you can still reply
if someone else initiates the talk session with you. 

And lastly, Sun's talk seems to be incompatible with just about every
other OS's talk that I've tried, including Linux.  So, if you're trying to
talk to someone on a Sun, you're probably SOL.  It would be nice if
someone would hack the talk that comes with Linux so that it could talk to
Suns as well.  

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cdrom problem during installation

1996-12-25 Thread Alex Lobkovsky
I had a problem with the Sony CDU 311 CDROM during a floppy 
installation.  The cdrom drive was recognized fine.  During the menu 
driven installation phase, I kept getting messages

hdc: media changed
hdc: media changed
hdc: tray open or drive not ready
hdc: irq timeout : status = 0xd0
hdc: ATAPI RESET complete
hdc: code: 0x70 key: 0x02 asc: 0x53 ascq: 0x00

etc, etc, etc
the cdrom light would keep falshing.

I tried turning the cdrom drive off in the BIOS but it didn't help

What can I do, please help.

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TIme online monitoring

1996-12-25 Thread Daniel Stringfield
Merry Christmas to all that it applies.

I want to keep a running total of the time I am online, with MY ISP.  Is
there an easy way to do this?  I want to see how much time I actually am
online, and see if there is any way I can trim it down.  In my local area,
ISDN PPP accounts are only $19.95 a month, but Bell South charges 53.15 a
month, plus $0.01 a minute after 200 hours.  If i'm online for a straight
week, there goes most of my time right there.. :) (which happens
sometimes)  I wanted to see how much time I use before I sign up for ISDN
phone service.  I figured $300 a month for the PHONE LINE per month if I
average 20 hours a day.  Which obvisouly, I won't be doing if I have to
pay by the minute. :) 

Also, transfers and what not will be faster, so it will take less time
online for many things...  :)  Like keeping a fresh local copy of
Debian... 

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Re: 1.2 Upgrade Experience

1996-12-25 Thread salwen
I just upgraded to 1.2 and had a similar experience.  It took a little
time to iron things out but now everything (with the possible
exception of amslatex) is working OK.  

First of all, thanks everyone for a remarkable package of software.

Summary of constructive comments:

1.  Many packages can not configure correctly on first pass from naive
dselect upgrade because (for example) they depend on the new libc
which hasn't been configured yet.

2.  One of these was perl which makes further use of dselect
impossible.  

Manual dpkg -i and rerunning install from dselect fixed 1 and 2.  (I
stayed in dselect till the whole process was completed and opened a
new shell to run dpkg).

3.  For some reason modules failed as well which resulted in losing
ppp and access to my cdrom.  Luckily I had a different kernel which
still had its sbpcd driver so I could install the kernel package
again.

4.  I had trouble with pppd since the upgrade but I think the machine
is just faster.  I added some delays in chatscript and it worked at
least once.

Thanks again for the great system.

Nathan


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Re: Debian 1.2 install problem - short memory

1996-12-25 Thread A. Paul Heely Jr.
On Tue, 24 Dec 1996, George Bing wrote:

 
 I have been trying to install 1.2 on a Thinkpad 500 with 4 meg of memory 
 without success.  The machine had Slackware working on it, but the rescue 
 disk fails on boot.  It last message is:
 
 RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
 
 And then hangs.  I suspect the problem is a lack of memory.  The rescue 
 disk reports memory as:
 
 Memory: 1604k/4288k available (1044k kernel, 384k reserved, 672k data)  
 
 By comparison, the slackware bare.i boot disk reports:
 
 Memory: 2828k/4288k available (688k kernel, 384k reserved, 388k data)
 
 and the previous custom kernel was similarly small.
 
 I tried the new.resq1440.bin with similar results.  floppy=thinkpad, and 
 mem=xxx, and other attempts at boot parameters make no difference, other 
 than to elicit a slight variation of:
 
 Couldn't get a free page . . .
 out of Memory
 
 
 
 My guess is that the rescue disk kernel is just too large for a machine 
 with so little memory.  My expectation is to get the system going from 
 floppy, and then add parts with either SLIP, PLIP, or PCMCIA ethernet - 
 depending on how well things work.
 
 If the above interpretation is correct, is there any chance we could have 
 a low memory version of the rescue disk for similar machines.  I would 
 put the disk together myself, except that I need a working debian system 
 to install the package on to make a new disk.
 
 George
 

I had a similar problem on an old 386 laptop.  I was able to build a very
bare kernel on another machine which I then copied to the resq144 disk.
Granted this was a very homegrown hack but it worked enough to get the
machine up and running  and allow me to build a new kernel on it with what
I needed.  If you want to try this kernel mail me and I will send you a
copy of the kernel and the steps I used to get it to work.

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Re: Debian 1.2 rescue disk reboots Toshiba Tecra laptop

1996-12-25 Thread Bruce Perens
Yes, it uses a bzImage kernel.

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Re: cdrom problem during installation

1996-12-25 Thread Bruce Perens
Gee, these CD drivers are no fun at all. Did you try placing a CD in the drive?
(or removing the CD?).

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: Debian 1.2 rescue disk reboots Toshiba Tecra laptop

1996-12-25 Thread Bruce Perens
Can you send me the patch? I guess it effects SysLinux, which is what we
are using. I'll have to make another floppy image.

Thanks

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Re: 1.2 Upgrade Experience

1996-12-25 Thread Bruce Perens
I think dpkg-ftp needs to sort the packages into dependency order before it
retrieves them (since it generally doesn't get them all at once when doing
a major upgrade).

Thanks

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pppd ISDN and W95

1996-12-25 Thread Michel van Osenbruggen
Hello,

I'm running a dialserver with common modems now.
We want to offer ISDN too soon..

I can't get it running unfortunately :-((

I have to external Elsa Fastlink ISDN adapters that do HDLC (sync PPP)
I configured the modems with ats0=1 to pick up a line immideately
I'm starting a job in /etc/inittab that starts pppd (version 2.2.0)
with the options :

auth
-chap
+pap
modem
crtscts
debug

I made a /etc/pap-secrets file 

As a client I use a Teles ISDN adapter that works perfectly on my ISP
so I guess that can't be the problem..

When I dialin I get a good connection. I see W95 negotiating with the
Linux and I see some things happening in the debug but no connect.

Finnally I tried to dialout using the Elsa adapter from the Linux and
I got a perfect connection to my ISP..

I don't understand it anymore :-(((
I hope someone can help me..

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clnttcp_create: RPC: program not registered

1996-12-25 Thread Michel van Osenbruggen
Hello,

I get these strange errors all the time. I can't figure out what they
are. I get them when I try to mount a NFS drive of start a FTP session
etc..

The errors are:

clnttcp_create: RPC: program not registered
clntudp_create: RPC: program not registered

Can anybody tell me what to do about this ??

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Re: A.out binaries in debian 1.2 ??? nah....

1996-12-25 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
James Martino  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:
 I suspect any packages with a.outs in them are orphaned packages.
 Of course 1.2 is meant to be ELF-only.

Oh dear - uucp an orphaned package! What is the (*n*x) world coming to?
If it really is orphaned, I might like to adopt it.

I guess you could take it. However I've just uploaded an all ELF uucp package
in the new source format into unstable for the same reason - I couldn't
reach the old maintainer anymore. It should be on your
mirror by now. I don't think UUCP needs much maintenance - there hasn't
been a new upstream version for over a year so I consider it mature.
So I don't think it really needs a new maintainer. But please check
it out and let me know what you think.

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Re: clnttcp_create: RPC: program not registered

1996-12-25 Thread Boris D. Beletsky
Hi Michel, You wrote:
 Michel
 Michel Hello,
 Michel
 Michel I get these strange errors all the time. I can't figure out
 Michel what they are. I get them when I try to mount a NFS drive of
 Michel start a FTP session etc..
 Michel
 Michel The errors are:
 Michel
 Michel RPC: program not registered

RPC clients report such an error when they can't find a daemon to
connect to. You have to run rpc.mountd and rpc.nfsd to enable to
mount Your self via NFS.

Hope that helps..

borik

P.S FTP is not RPC service.

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Re: cdrom problem during installation

1996-12-25 Thread Farzad FARID
On Tue, 24 Dec 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

 Gee, these CD drivers are no fun at all. Did you try placing a CD in the 
 drive?
 (or removing the CD?).
 

 I had the same problem at home with my ATAPI CDROM (Sony CDU77E), the
installation program would eventually go on after a long time, but as this
program probes the disks often it was quite unsusable. Putting a CD in the
drive does solve the problem. My computer at work has got a Toshiba ATAPI
CDROM player and does not show this problem.
 It think the installation instructions should talk about this problem and
give the fix. It's better than releasing yet another boot disk with no
CDROM support at all, uh? :)

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PPP Chatscript problem

1996-12-25 Thread Richard Heestand
I am trying to create a working chat script so I can 
proceed with my installation of debian 1.2.  However,
after a day of trying variations of chat scripts, I am stumped.

What should I do to fix this script? Where am I going wrong?

I have included my chat script, a sample of how I can log into my ISP
using the windows terminal program, and a log of script failure.

If I am unable to get a working chat script what are my options?
Could I install minicom, use it to log into my ISP and run ppp 
by hand?

My ppp.chatscript is:

ABORT BUSY
ABORT NO CARRIER
ABORT VOICE
ABORT NO DIALTONE
ATDT77139661200
ogin: rick
assword:  
own)  dumb\rdppp

The steps to log into my ISP are (captured from MS
Windows Terminal) :

ATDT7139661200
CONNECT 9600/ARQ/V32/LAPM

NeoSoft AAS 1.0 (pandora.neosoft.com) 11 users, 9600/ARQ
login: rick
Password: 
Last login: Tue Dec 24 17:45:56 on ttyA55
Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California.   All rights reserved.

FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE (WINNIE) #2: Tue Oct  8 14:05:01 CDT 1996

Authorized users only.

Welcome to the NeoSoft Advanced Access Server.
Address problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

READY
NeoSoft Menuing Shell
TERM = (unknown) dumb
dppp

The results of the script pon are (logged by syslog):

Dec 244 15:43:40 tardis pppd[368]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root,uid 0
Dec 244 15:43:40 tardis chat[369]: abort on (BUSY)
Dec 244 15:43:40 tardis chat[369]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
Dec 244 15:43:40 tardis chat[369]: abort on (VOICE)
Dec 244 15:43:40 tardis chat[369]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
Dec 244 15:43:40 tardis chat[369]: send (ATDT7139661200)
Dec 244 15:43:42 tardis chat[369]: expect (ogin:)
Dec 244 15:44:40 tardis chat[369]: ATDT7139661200^M
Dec 244 15:44:44 tardis chat[369]: CONNECT 1400/
Dec 244 15:44:44 tardis chat[369]: alarm
Dec 244 15:44:44 tardis chat[369]: Failed
Dec 244 15:44:44 tardis pppd[369]: Connect script failed
Dec 244 15:44:44 tardis pppd[369]: Exit


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Test messages

1996-12-25 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Merry Christmas all,

  I am sending this to see if this works, haven't seen those few messages I've
sent to the list in my mail box.


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Kernel Package

1996-12-25 Thread Gith


I just used make-kpkg to create a custom kernel.
Anything, I didn't need I didn't include support for in the kernel
and I didn't choose to make anything as a module. 
The program created the kernel-image package with no problems,
however, I noticed that it still keeps the same, modules file
in /etc. I simply commented out everything and the reboot went
fine and I've definitly noticed a big speed improvement with the
new kernel, but I think as part of the install, a person should
be asked if they want to disable all old modules and/or resetup
modules for the new kernel.

Just my 2 cents.


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Re: Poppasswd

1996-12-25 Thread Nelson Posse Lago


On Tue, 24 Dec 1996, Roy C Bixler wrote:

 I was just wondering if anyone out there has had any luck with the
 'poppasswd' package.  I have tried setting it up on a Debian 1.2 system,
 but it just freezes up when I try to change the password from Eudora.  A
 list of all the processes shows that 'poppasswd' is running along with a
 'passwd rcb'.  These must be killed manually, otherwise they hang around
 even after pressing the 'Stop' button in Eudora.

Hi,
This is a very tricky problem. poppassd is a small app that calls passwd 
to change the password. Well, it passes some arguments to passwd and 
expects some responses from it. All very fine. Now, the newer debians use 
a passwd program that does a few checks on the password. If the 
new password is too similar to the old one, or if it is too short, or if 
it has too many repeated characters, etc. it will issue an error message 
and prompt you for a new (hopefully better) password. poppassd was not 
desinged to deal with this. It just waits for passwd to issue the prompt 
re-enter new password while password is saying too simple: try again.
Try entering a very random, 8 chars password to see if it works. To solve 
your problem, you must try to find a passwd program that doesn't do these 
checks (at the expense of security) or hack poppassd to be smarter. I 
don't know if debian has a simpler passwd program.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Problems with Talk under Debian

1996-12-25 Thread Jonas Bofjall
On Tue, 24 Dec 1996, Gerry Jensen wrote:

 I had trouble with this too.  I believe one problem is that the host name
 of your machine must match the IP address of your machine.  Otherwise,

thank you for this information! I've had this problem too ;)

 And lastly, Sun's talk seems to be incompatible with just about every
 other OS's talk that I've tried, including Linux.  So, if you're trying to

At least on my schools sun's running SunOS, they've got at least two, but
I think three talk-clients. Maybe you should try some other.. When someone
requests a talk with me when I use my school's sun the talk daemon tells
me which talk-client to use.

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Re: libXt.so.6

1996-12-25 Thread Jonas Bofjall
On Tue, 24 Dec 1996, James W. Tucker wrote:

 I've installed Debian 1.2 from scratch but dpkg indicates that it
 can't find libXt.so.6 when I try to install the texbin package.  I did

I've had exactly the same problem, so it might be common.
I don't know how to fix this (I used dpkg to force the install,
but I guess not that is not the wat to fix this problem..)
So I am very anxious to find out what the problem is??
someone?

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Re: PPP Chatscript problem

1996-12-25 Thread Mark W. Blunier


On Wed, 25 Dec 1996, Richard Heestand wrote:
 What should I do to fix this script? Where am I going wrong?

Your ISP didn't tell you everything you need to know.  Some ISP's
change the ppp login name from rick to prick (the p indicates its
a ppp account, srick for a slip account).  You might have to
enter 'unix' at the first login to get to the ppp login.  I didn't
look at the script very close, but you seem to be making a connection, but
it is to a shell account instead of ppp.

Mark W. Blunier


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Re: TIme online monitoring

1996-12-25 Thread Mark W. Blunier


 I want to keep a running total of the time I am online, with MY ISP.  Is
 there an easy way to do this?

Check out momond at http://slug.ctv.es/~emelero/momond.

Mark W. Blunier



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Re: libXt.so.6

1996-12-25 Thread Alexander Gieg
  I've installed Debian 1.2 from scratch but dpkg indicates that it
  can't find libXt.so.6 when I try to install the texbin package.  I did
 
 I've had exactly the same problem, so it might be common.
 I don't know how to fix this (I used dpkg to force the install,
 but I guess not that is not the wat to fix this problem..)
 So I am very anxious to find out what the problem is??
 someone?

This problem is *well* known!!! Add the line

/usr/X11R6/lib

to the file /etc/ld.so.conf, and then, run the
command:

ldconfig -v

That's all.

Alexander Gieg

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Re: Poppasswd

1996-12-25 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hi,

The -o option of the passwd command (in Debian 1.1 - don't know about 1.2)
disables all checks. Hacking poppassd to call passwd with the -o
option should be trivial.

E.-

 This is a very tricky problem. poppassd is a small app that calls passwd 
 to change the password. Well, it passes some arguments to passwd and 
 expects some responses from it. All very fine. Now, the newer debians use 
 a passwd program that does a few checks on the password. If the 
 new password is too similar to the old one, or if it is too short, or if 
 it has too many repeated characters, etc. it will issue an error message 
 and prompt you for a new (hopefully better) password. poppassd was not 
 desinged to deal with this. It just waits for passwd to issue the prompt 
 re-enter new password while password is saying too simple: try again.
 Try entering a very random, 8 chars password to see if it works. To solve 
 your problem, you must try to find a passwd program that doesn't do these 
 checks (at the expense of security) or hack poppassd to be smarter. I 
 don't know if debian has a simpler passwd program.
 
 Hope this helps,
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