Re: ISDN Support

1997-04-18 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Kevin Traas wrote:
> 
> After doing some Web browsing and reading docs, Howto's, etc. I haven't
> found too much information (at least that I was hoping for) on using ISDN
> on Linux.
> 
> Specifically, I currently have a USR Sportster 128K sitting here in the
> box.  I'd like to use it in my Debian Linux system.  (Running 1.2.8)
> 
> >From what I've found, only a few ISDN TA's seem to be supported under Linux
> and they're all European brands that I've never heard of before (in my
> limited existance... ...) and that don't seem to be readily available
> here in Canada.
> 
> Are other ISDN TA's supported by Linux?  i.e. USR Sportster ISDN, Motorola
> Bitsurfer Pro, etc.
> 
> TIA for your help,
> 

Does the Sportster 128K come in external variety? I went round and
round with USR trying to get them to give me specs so that I could
write a Linux driver for this card. They eventually told me that an
outside company had written the SCO software driver and that I should
talk to them. That company ignored my emails consistently. We ended
up getting a Zyxel TA128U. It's an external and we're only using one
channel and it works just fine. Any external should work as long as
it supports "PPP Sync-to-Async" conversion. You just set up a dial
script and once you get "CONNECT" you return from the chat script
and off it goes. It works flawlessly for us here and I see up to
6.5KB/sec transfer rates (one B channel, not two). Ascend Communications
is rumored to be writing a NetBSD driver for their ISDN card, so
maybe they'll do one for Linux?! 

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Packages.gz Blues

1997-04-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello !

Something that is remarked frequently the last days is, that the
bo (and hamm, btw) Packages.gz on ftp.debian and at master, are out
of date (they have the time stamp Apr 7.) There are a lot of
packages, that can't be accessed via ftp through dselect.

Is anybody out there responsible/able to keep the respective files up to
date?

Is there a better solution than getting each .deb file alone and dpkg it?

What iis the functionality of dftp? Will it solve my problem?

Thanks, Marcus.

PS: So far I'm up to date: No problems with Debian 1.2.x/nearly1.3!
Great Work!


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Re: compiling C source for HP850C ghostscript driver from OS/2 or DOS on Linux

1997-04-18 Thread Chris Hanson
   Date: Fri, 18 Apr 97 20:24 GST
   From: Alan Eugene Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

   MOre than once I have tried compiling C source on linux, using gcc,
   that generated alot of error messages, including many concerning
   backslashes at the ends of lines.  An example is an existing
   ghostscript driver for the HP850C Deskjet into ghostscript.  The main
   problem I had was with this source code, that I suspected was
   developed on MSDOG or OS/2.  It had a lot of "^M" like characters in
   it.  

   Can anyone provide the slightest clue?   What's special about MSDOG
   source code files that would result in many error messages?  At least
   a clue, otherwise, what I tried to do was delete all "^M" chars and
   all backslashes at the ends of lines.  Even this wasn't enough.

In C code, a backslash at the end of a line is a special hack.  What
it usually means is "replace the backslash, newline, and immediately
following whitespace with a single space".  When the C parser sees a
^M following the backslash, it gets upset.

What you should do is replace all instances of ^M^J with ^J (i.e.
delete all ^M characters appearing at the end of a line).  DO NOT
delete the backslashes, because they are important.


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ISDN Support

1997-04-18 Thread Kevin Traas

After doing some Web browsing and reading docs, Howto's, etc. I haven't
found too much information (at least that I was hoping for) on using ISDN
on Linux.

Specifically, I currently have a USR Sportster 128K sitting here in the
box.  I'd like to use it in my Debian Linux system.  (Running 1.2.8)

>From what I've found, only a few ISDN TA's seem to be supported under Linux
and they're all European brands that I've never heard of before (in my
limited existance... ...) and that don't seem to be readily available
here in Canada.

Are other ISDN TA's supported by Linux?  i.e. USR Sportster ISDN, Motorola
Bitsurfer Pro, etc.

TIA for your help,

Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
Edmondson Roper CA
http://www.eroper.bc.ca


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RE: Email Script

1997-04-18 Thread Tim O'Brien
>> what I did wrong? (A copy of the ip-up script follows)
>
>> mail -s IPINFO [EMAIL PROTECTED] < ipinfo.txt
>
>Does it work if you put the full  pathname in the maili statement like
>you 
>do for the echo statements?
>
>mail -s IPINFO [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /etc/ppp/ipinfo.txt 

Gezzz I feel stoopid now 

Sorry to waste your time, I can't believe I overlooked that.

Thanks, 
Tim 



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Re: Again - Multilink PPP vs. EQL

1997-04-18 Thread Kevin Traas
> > > After burrowing around some, I finally found some info and docs on
EQL;
> > > however, Multilink PPP is mentioned as a newer, and improved
alternative.
> > 
> > > Unfortunately, I can't find any info on Multilink PPP in the HowTo's,
> > etc.
> 
> I thought mutlilink PPP was something only available for ISDN?  If i'm
> incorrect, someone correct me.

Nope, you're correct.  It was something new to me to, but after some
well-received "guidance", I've got things straightened out 
 
> By the way, Kevin -- what docs have you found on eql?  Do you know if one
> has to use eql_enslave to enslave links, and if so, is the latest
> eql_enslave the one stored inside one of old eql patches on
> sunsite.unc.edu?

About all I've found on EQL was in the NET3-Howto.  I haven't tried any of
this yet (soon, though), but from the docs it looks as if all you need is
to run "ifconfig eql  up/down" to establish the driver/interface.  (Of
course, you need kernel support for EQL as well.)  Once that's done, there
are additional steps required to establish connections to the remote
system, but I can't remember those steps and I don't have access to the
Howto right now.

Also, I'm sure there are others _much_ more knowledgeable about EQL than I
am - I'm a true newbie in this area.

Thanks for the help,

Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
Edmondson Roper CA
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Re: Email script

1997-04-18 Thread Rick Macdonald
Tim O'Brien wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to get one of the Linux boxes I run to send me it's IP address
> by Email every time it logs onto the Internet (it has a [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> dynamic IP
> address). For some reason, the script doesn't work. It creates a file that
> contains the data it's supposed to (ipinfo.txt), but I never get the Email.
> However, typing
> 
>mail -s IPINFO [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /etc/ppp/ipinfo.txt
> 
> on the command line causes the mail to be sent.. I'm baffled. Any ideas
> what I did wrong? (A copy of the ip-up script follows)

> echo Peer IP Number: $5 >> /etc/ppp/ipinfo.txt
> 
> mail -s IPINFO [EMAIL PROTECTED] < ipinfo.txt

Does it work if you put the full  pathname in the maili statement like
you 
do for the echo statements?

mail -s IPINFO [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /etc/ppp/ipinfo.txt 

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Re: Homer has the ppp blues :-(

1997-04-18 Thread Ralph Winslow
Mark Phillips wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Rick wrote:
> 
> > You might want to play with DTR/DCD settings.  I haven't had a problem
> > like this before but it sounds like the modem is dropping DTR which, if I
> > remember correctly, instructs the software that the data terminal is
> > ready.  I believe there is a modem command that sets DTR on permanently.
> >
I had a LOT of trouble with this - the command isn't standard, each Mfg.
uses whatever. You need to hold DTR high between the time the chat
script (whatever one you use) terminates and pppd takes over. As I
recall, my magic string is S1 (but don't quote me) YMWPV.

> > Or maybe the Data Carrier Detect is dropping.  But I'm pretty sure that
> > would cause the modem to really hang up.  It's been a while since I've
> > messed with modem settings.  Look in your modem manual for a setting that
> > is used for informing the software of the modems status.
> >
> > AT&C1&D2 is the init string that used to be the fix all for me.  It sets
> > the DTR/DCD to the correct setting for data, such as ppp or bbsing.  A few
> > years ago manufacturers started to set factory defaults toward faxing
> > which conflicts with data.  AT&C1&D2 fixes this.  Try it and see.  Give
> > you a starting point to add compression and error correction etc...
> 
> Unfortunately my modem didn't come with a manual telling me these details.
> (I think I could send off for one which would cost me $30 - a little
> expensive I think.) Do you know what these things mean/do?  Ie what are
> DTR/DCD settings?  What does AT&C1&D2 mean and do?  Is there any document
> on the net explaining basic modem commands and basically how a modem
> works.  I really don't have a clear picture at the moment.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -
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Email script

1997-04-18 Thread Tim O'Brien
I'm trying to get one of the Linux boxes I run to send me it's IP address
by Email every time it logs onto the Internet (it has a [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
dynamic IP
address). For some reason, the script doesn't work. It creates a file that
contains the data it's supposed to (ipinfo.txt), but I never get the Email.
However, typing 

   mail -s IPINFO [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /etc/ppp/ipinfo.txt

on the command line causes the mail to be sent.. I'm baffled. Any ideas
what I did wrong? (A copy of the ip-up script follows) 

Thanks, 
Tim  

obriendp : /etc/ppp --> cat ip-up
#!/bin/sh
#
# $Id: ip-up,v 1.1 1996/01/31 21:25:59 alvar Exp $
#
# This script is run by the pppd after the link is established.
# It should be used to add routes, set IP address, run the mailq
# etc.
#
# This script is called with the following arguments:
#Arg  Name   Example
#$1   Interface name ppp0
#$2   The ttyttyS1
#$3   The link speed 38400
#$4   Local IP number12.34.56.78
#$5   Peer  IP number12.34.56.99

#
# The  environment is cleared before executing this script
# so the path must be reset
#
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
export PATH

ipfwadm -F -a masq -S 192.168.0.0/29 -D 0/0
rm /etc/ppp/ipinfo.txt
clock > /etc/ppp/ipinfo.txt
echo Interface name: $1 >> /etc/ppp/ipinfo.txt
echo Controlling TTY: $2 >> /etc/ppp/ipinfo.txt
echo Link Speed: $3 >> /etc/ppp/ipinfo.txt
echo Local IP Number: $4 >> /etc/ppp/ipinfo.txt
echo Peer IP Number: $5 >> /etc/ppp/ipinfo.txt

mail -s IPINFO [EMAIL PROTECTED] < ipinfo.txt
 
#last line

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Soundblaster and the kernel

1997-04-18 Thread Geoff R Deasey
Thanks for all the help, I did recompile the kernel and made the modules.
however I ran into a little problem, cc1 was not found in the path.  I 
manually added it to the path (strange that it was not in the path).
I noticed that there are 2 places to define modules

/etc/conf.modules
and
/etc/modules

which one should I use ?

Thanks
--jeff


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ILU

1997-04-18 Thread Richard Heller
Hi,

  I have Debian Linux 1.1 and it came with ILU version 2.0.6.  I installed
the ILU package and have been trying to use it but am having problems.  I
tried to run the server from the tutorial example and it won't let me
publish any objects.  I use ILU on a Solaris machine and I had to put . in
my path for ILU to work on Solaris, however that didn't work with Linux. 
What environment variables do I need to have set to what in order to get
ILU to work?

Thanks,
Rich


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Re: Shell with cd command

1997-04-18 Thread Martin Schulze
On Apr 18, Paul Serice wrote
> I seem to remember someone speaking of a shell that prevented the 
> user from leaving his or her home directory.
> 
> Can someone point to the right Debian Package?

man chroot


Regards,

Joey

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dselect/dpkg daydreams

1997-04-18 Thread Brian S. Julin



For what little a few suggestions which have probably already been
thought of are worth from someone with no time to implement them,
I thought I'd offer these thoughts on dselect and dpkg anyway:

1) Multiple access method params -- e.g. it would be nice not to have 
to re-enter access method parameters just to update from non-us.  Also, 
for single packages that the authors only want distributed from 
their site like kermit (used to?) it might be good to allow 
additional access method entries to be present in the debian 
package record so dselect could just go out and grab it.

2) Non .deb package items -- building on #1, if the optional 
access method fields were present they could define components
that are not .deb files, like the netscape binary packages on
ftp.netscape.com.

3) Progress meters during package download would be a tasty bit 
of icing to dselect.  Also they would offer a clue on slower systems
as to whether you are in the download or "check for incomplete or
corrupt" stage.  Speaking of which perhaps after a package has 
been verified to be intact, just printing "... Good.\n" on the end of 
the line would be nice.

4) Allowing installed packages to ride on hooks in dpkg so they
can respond when other packages are installed or removed.  An 
example of what I mean -- have a package "fvwm-debian-std-desktop" which 
consists of a program that writes fvwmrc files based on a database
of package names/versions associated with menu items.  Whenever a 
package is installed or removed, dpkg would look for hook files and 
find the fvwm menu writer program, which based on the name of the 
package installed or removed would then add or remove a menu or perform
other desktop configuration changes. Package maintainers would also 
have the option of invoking this program from the .deb scripts instead.
This divorces the various window managers and packages in such a way
that the obligation for adding the menu item can be shared between
the maintainer of the menu package for a given window manager and the 
maintainer of each individual package.  I'm sure there would be 
other uses for this feature as well.  Probably the hooks could just
be more script files in /var/lib/dpkg/info.



Finally, Debian could really benefit from a kind person riding up on
a big white 30G drive and giving them a enough space to store
a journal of older .deb files (maybe this already exists somewhere?), 
and optimized binary distributions for different intel processors.
(Yes I know there isn't a huge performance difference in some cases 
but it would definitely be a selling point to some.)  Or heck,
even someone selling CDs with optimized binaries would be great.

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Re: Shell with cd command

1997-04-18 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Paul Serice wrote:

> I seem to remember someone speaking of a shell that prevented the 
> user from leaving his or her home directory.
> Can someone point to the right Debian Package?

 Try rbash (just bash with other name).

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Re: compiling C source for HP850C ghostscript driver from OS/2 or DOS on Linux

1997-04-18 Thread Dima
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>
>MOre than once I have tried compiling C source on linux, using gcc,
>that generated alot of error messages, including many concerning
>backslashes at the ends of lines. 
...
>Can anyone provide the slightest clue?   What's special about MSDOG
>source code files that would result in many error messages?  

I think it's not MS-DOG source code, it's MS-DOG C compilers that
usually are to blame.

>... what I tried to do was delete all "^M" chars and
>all backslashes at the ends of lines.  Even this wasn't enough.

^M's shouldn't matter; use something like dos2unix if you want to get
rid of them.  I don't quite understand the bit about backslashes:
do you mean strings like
" blah blah blah \
more blah"; 
or something else?

Dimitri
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fvwm2: don't get window outline when resizing window

1997-04-18 Thread Rick Macdonald
I keep up-to-date with unstable. A few weeks ago I rebooted my machine
for the first time in ages (had to go to dos/win to do my income tax).

When I started up X, I found that I can still resize windows by dragging
the corners or edges, but I no longer get a window outline while doing
so.

It's not a huge problem, since the mouse pointer itself tells me where
I've gragged the edge to, but this seems like a bug.

Has anybody seem this?

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Shell with cd command

1997-04-18 Thread Paul Serice
I seem to remember someone speaking of a shell that prevented the 
user from leaving his or her home directory.

Can someone point to the right Debian Package?

Thanks
Paul Serice


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Re: "Frozen" Upgrade Troubles

1997-04-18 Thread Dima
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>Pete Harlan writes:
>
> > * fvwm2 blew away my /etc/X11/fvwm2 configuration files with empty
> > ones, without asking or warning me.

I thought that was fixed long ago...

> My menus are all scrogged.  It keeps changing my fixes when I reboot
>too, I think.  Grrr.

I dunno about changing stuff on reboot, but the easiest way to fix
fvwm2 is to put your customizations in ~/.fvwm2/*.hook files.
   
You'll probably need to experiment a little to get it right -- I did,
but if you get stuck I can send you my config files.

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Re: Again - Multilink PPP vs. EQL

1997-04-18 Thread Steve Hsieh
> > After burrowing around some, I finally found some info and docs on EQL;
> > however, Multilink PPP is mentioned as a newer, and improved alternative.
> 
> > Unfortunately, I can't find any info on Multilink PPP in the HowTo's,
> etc.
> > 
> > Can anyone point me in the right direction?  Or, is it not yet available
> on
> > the Linux platform?


I thought mutlilink PPP was something only available for ISDN?  If i'm
incorrect, someone correct me.

By the way, Kevin -- what docs have you found on eql?  Do you know if one
has to use eql_enslave to enslave links, and if so, is the latest
eql_enslave the one stored inside one of old eql patches on
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Re: smail config

1997-04-18 Thread meierrj
Alex,

> How do I tell smail, that a single user shouldn't be allowed
> to send/receive email?

If the user is a fictitious user, you can simply put a .forward file in
their home directory (see smail(8), smail(5)).

If the user has no home directory, you can place an entry in
/etc/aliases (see aliases(4)).

Many years ago, after all else failed to curb an abusive user, the
rules in /etc/sendmail.cf (see smail(5)) were modified such that all his
transmissions were redirected to censors.  Shortly after that, his account
was revoked for other reasons.

Hopefully helpful,
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Re: Does this list still work? - The saga continues...

1997-04-18 Thread Alexandre Lebrun

I saw a warning that some problem had happened with the lists and that the 
users should RE-subscribe.

did you try that ?

At least I was unsubscribed from here and subscribed to debian-changes.

Hope this help.

Alexandre

On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, John Foster wrote:

> Hmmm
> 
> Something very strange is going on here.
> 
> After my previous post, I have received replies from
> 
> Matthew Tebbens
> Klaus Hergerschiem
> Ralph Winslow 
> 
> to say that they saw my post, but I'm still not getting anything from
> this list. Now it seemed to stop after I set up IP_aliasing on this
> machine. I read the file in /usr/doc/smail about multihomed mail
> servers, and it didn't make much sense to me, but I still get mail from
> the outside world, but not from this mailing list.
> 
> Is the problem here or at the list server?
> 
> Does anyone have any clues at all?
> 
> Needless to say, if there is any discussion on this thread, please CC:
> me, otherwise I won't get any of it, unless the truly excellent Debian
> people find that it's a problem at there end and manage to resolve it. I
> suspect that it's probably at this end though.
> 
> BTW, all smail config files are as created by smailconfig.
> 
> John Foster.
> 
> Feeling a bit like a leper.
> 
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Re: Simple Unix question

1997-04-18 Thread David B. Teague

On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Klaus Hergerschiemer wrote:
> How does one extract a .zip archive in unix??

Use the zip/unzip package. unzip_5.12-15.deb on my machine.

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Again - Multilink PPP vs. EQL

1997-04-18 Thread Kevin Traas
I've no responses so far, so thought I'd repost.  

Please let me know if you've got any info for me.

Thx.
Kevin

> After burrowing around some, I finally found some info and docs on EQL;
> however, Multilink PPP is mentioned as a newer, and improved alternative.

> Unfortunately, I can't find any info on Multilink PPP in the HowTo's,
etc.
> 
> Can anyone point me in the right direction?  Or, is it not yet available
on
> the Linux platform?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Kevin Traas
> Systems Analyst
> Edmondson Roper CA
> http://www.eroper.bc.ca


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Re: Any good book on numerical analysis?

1997-04-18 Thread Oleg Krivosheev

hi,

On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Dany Dionne wrote:

> Hi,
> I am a beginner in C/C++ and i search a book on numerical analysis. Anyone
> know a book accessible for me? I have the Numerical Recipies and i woulk
> like to have a book in C/C++ training me in numerical analysis.
> Thanks,
> Dany Dionne
> 


  Barton and Nackman,

Scientific and Engineering C++





OK


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Re: Mounting a floppy

1997-04-18 Thread d1temp
On 18 Apr, Christian Hudon wrote:
> On Apr 18, Philippe Troin wrote
>> Yes, of course. Pick a GID, replace /dev/fd0 by /dev/cdrom (or 
>> whatever the cdrom device is), and replace the gid=25 by something 
>> else.
> Hmm. There's one slight problem. It doesn't work. :)

> First, there's no mention of 'umask' under the mount manpage, so that's
> kinda suspicious. And I tried both umask (on a RockRidge CDROM) and mode
> (on a plain CDROM)... and they don't work. All the files still come out as
> 444. I'm running Linux 2.0.30, if that makes a difference.
 
> Basically, I don't care very much about the permissions of the files under
> the mountpoint. What I'd want is a way to force the mountpoint to a given
> uid/gid and permissions upon mount. Doesn't look like that's possible.

You can force the mountpoint to uid and gid (non-Rock Ridge, RR will
keep the normal settings of the mountpoint, so change that directly
with ch[mod|own|grp]), but it seems setting the permissions of the mount
point (and underlying directories) can't be done (non-RR sets 444 for
files and 555 for dirs/mountpoint).

Setting the permissions of the actual _files_ on the CD (non-RR) can
be done with the mode=xxx

BEWARE! As far as I can see the mode is interpreted as decimal numbers
and then converted to octal 
mode=506 gave rwxrwx-w-, 505 gave rwxrwx--x !!!

It would seem that there's no way to prevent users from at least 
listing the files on the CD (non-RR), although they might be prevented 
from reading the contents of the files.

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Re: Mounting a floppy

1997-04-18 Thread Philippe Troin

On Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:44:41 EDT "Christian Hudon" 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> On Apr 18, Philippe Troin wrote
> > 
> > Yes, of course. Pick a GID, replace /dev/fd0 by /dev/cdrom (or 
> > whatever the cdrom device is), and replace the gid=25 by something 
> > else.
> 
> Hmm. There's one slight problem. It doesn't work. :)
> 
> First, there's no mention of 'umask' under the mount manpage, so that's
> kinda suspicious. And I tried both umask (on a RockRidge CDROM) and mode
> (on a plain CDROM)... and they don't work. All the files still come out as
> 444. I'm running Linux 2.0.30, if that makes a difference.

This will only work for non-rock-ridge CDs. ANd you're right, it 
should be mode=. But it works quite badly. What's the 
correspondence between the mode you pass and the permissions ?
Changing the mode, change the permissions, but in a bizarre manner.

> Basically, I don't care very much about the permissions of the files under
> the mountpoint. What I'd want is a way to force the mountpoint to a given
> uid/gid and permissions upon mount. Doesn't look like that's possible.

Then create a directory above the mountpoint and change the perms of this 
directory !

Phil.



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Re: DEITY TEAM: Minor query re: .deb format

1997-04-18 Thread Leslie Mikesell
> > 
> > I'd think the info-zip package would have been a better choice since you
> > can extract individual elements without uncomressing the whole mess and
> > you wouldn't need two layers of archiving.
> > 
> I use the Midnight Commander for extracting single files from a *.deb
> file. I could probably do it as well on the command line using dpkg if
> i took the pain reading it's man page, but since MC does the trick and
> i'm eternally lazy... ;-)  So where is the problem, please?

You can hide any amount of cruft behind a pretty front-end but it is
still cruft all the same.  If you want a file out of the compressed
tar component you have to uncompress the whole stream to find it (after
the ar pass).

Info-zip (unlike gzip) can read it's directory (and comments, I think)
without having to uncompress anything, and you can uncompress/extract
individual elements without going through the whole stream.  I don't
think it can maintain unix ownership/attributes like tar does but
you shouldn't be doing that directly in an installable package anyway.
The install mechanism should set them up as a separate operation.
Is it just the not-invented-here syndrome that keeps zip format from being
used more under unix?

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Re: so sorry to intrude, but i need help

1997-04-18 Thread Kai Grossjohann
> BodakSean  writes:

  Sean> [...] to reach these worlds i have to have some kinda
  Sean> unzipping device and other complicated utilities for a first
  Sean> time user. [...]

To find things out there a web search engine is the place to go.

For example, I pointed my web browser at the URL
http://www.infoseek.com/ and typed "unzip utility".  Guess what
happened.  I got the first ten of a list of 300,000 links about unzip
utilities.

The first entry was one which explained how to download and install an
unzip utility.

I'm really fond of InfoSeek.  It's the search engine you used to get
when you use the "Internet Search" button of your Netscape browser.
Now they provide pointers to a number of search engines.

There you go.
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so sorry to intrude, but i need help

1997-04-18 Thread BodakSean
i have just gotten online and noticed that there is alot of new worlds to be
seen.  to reach these worlds i have to have some kinda unzipping device and
other complicated utilities for a first time user.  i would like to be able
to see the movies and other types of animation that i see in the disk with a
magnifying glass.  can you help?  ne thing would help at this point.  thanx
for your time.



dazed
and confused,




















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Does this list still work? - The saga continues...

1997-04-18 Thread John Foster
Hmmm

Something very strange is going on here.

After my previous post, I have received replies from

Matthew Tebbens
Klaus Hergerschiem
Ralph Winslow 

to say that they saw my post, but I'm still not getting anything from
this list. Now it seemed to stop after I set up IP_aliasing on this
machine. I read the file in /usr/doc/smail about multihomed mail
servers, and it didn't make much sense to me, but I still get mail from
the outside world, but not from this mailing list.

Is the problem here or at the list server?

Does anyone have any clues at all?

Needless to say, if there is any discussion on this thread, please CC:
me, otherwise I won't get any of it, unless the truly excellent Debian
people find that it's a problem at there end and manage to resolve it. I
suspect that it's probably at this end though.

BTW, all smail config files are as created by smailconfig.

John Foster.

Feeling a bit like a leper.


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Re: Is there an xterm for windows or win95.

1997-04-18 Thread Dany Dionne
You can also try X-Win32 from http://www.starnet.com
A demo version is available on the web site.
We use this product here on our win95 station.
Dany Dionne
Physics Department
Laval University

On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Jim Pick wrote:

> 
> >  I have been looking for a xterminal that could be used on 
> > windows 3.1 or win95 to operate with XFree86.  Does such a thing 
> > exist?  My shop is primarily DOS based and such a thing would make my 
> > life much easier.  After talking to a friend from digital, he says 
> > that they have an I'mplementation to run on their systems so I thought 
> > such a thing might exist here.
> 
> Yes.  Unfortunately, they're all commercial.
> 
> You might want to try:
> 
> NCD PC/XWare
> WRQ Reflection/X
> Hummingbird eXceed
> 
> There's a free (albeit commercial) X Server
> which I haven't tried yet at:
> 
> http://www.microimages.com/www/html/freestuf/mix.htm
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>  - Jim
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Problem with apache and includes

1997-04-18 Thread Alvin Birdi

Andree Leidenfrost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> I have apache-1.1.3-6 up and running on an otherwise basically
> Debian-1.2.9 system. Everything is running fine so far, the only real
> problem is that server includes are not working. Maybe it is worth
> mentioning that the machine was in fact updated from an older Slackware
> distribution recently (where server includes used to work) and I decided
> to also change the http server from CERN to Apache.
> 
> Ok, what I would like is that lines like the following work again (as
> they did before with the CERN server):
> 
> 
> 
> I understand that server includes are turned off in the standard
> access.conf file. Consequently I turned 'Includes' globally for the
> whole document root:
> 


I managed to get these running. I think the relevant lines are in
/etc/apache/srm.conf and are:

   # To use server-parsed HTML files
   AddType text/html shtml 
   AddHandler server-parsed .html

Then, I thnk you need to restart apache. Good luck!

Alvin

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Re: Mounting a floppy

1997-04-18 Thread Christian Hudon
On Apr 18, Philippe Troin wrote
> 
> Yes, of course. Pick a GID, replace /dev/fd0 by /dev/cdrom (or 
> whatever the cdrom device is), and replace the gid=25 by something 
> else.

Hmm. There's one slight problem. It doesn't work. :)

First, there's no mention of 'umask' under the mount manpage, so that's
kinda suspicious. And I tried both umask (on a RockRidge CDROM) and mode
(on a plain CDROM)... and they don't work. All the files still come out as
444. I'm running Linux 2.0.30, if that makes a difference.

Basically, I don't care very much about the permissions of the files under
the mountpoint. What I'd want is a way to force the mountpoint to a given
uid/gid and permissions upon mount. Doesn't look like that's possible.

  Christian


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Re: init level

1997-04-18 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Linh Dang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>I've got some diskcorruptions on my root partition. After some dpkg --install,
>my system is now running fine. But I can't change run-level anymore...
>
>$ telinit 1
>No more processes in this runlevel

Which version of sysvinit is installed, and what's the status?
 (dpkg -l sysvinit)

>Another question, what is the file /etc/runlevel ??? I might have lost it
>during the disk corruption (i.e. I don't have it now).

It's a temporary file. You don't need it. Newer versions of sysvinit
don't even use the temp files (instead they use the pipe /dev/initctl).

Mike.
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Re: Do teTeX packages work well?

1997-04-18 Thread Paul Seelig
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Phillips) writes:
 
> I think it is in Debian's interest to think carefully about how to get
> the best possible TeX distribution.  I think for a lot of people, having
> a great TeX distribution would be a major selling point for the
> distribution.  At the moment, Debian's TeX direction seems a little
> confused.
> 
Actually i thought that teTeX was supposed to and is the solution for
what you seem to recognize as Debian's confused TeX direction!? IMHO
the fact that teTeX has become part of Debian is a major reason to
consider installing Debian. I suppose that teTeX is at the moment the
state of the art of all the Unix TeX distributions available. 

   Regards, P. *8^)
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Re: loadlin impacts on W95

1997-04-18 Thread David Wright
On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Eugene Sevinian wrote:

> I hope someone can help me to fix this.
> Following the instructions provided by loadlin's manual I had
> mofified msdos.sys seting " BootGUI=0 and Logo=0 "   
> Now I have windows producing :
> "Missing or corrupted file: COMMAND.COM
> File creation error" (or something like that ).
> However I can enter into W95 typing WIN but I don't think 
> this is right.

Well, if you have BootGUI=0 then it's correct to have to type WIN to get
into W95. All BootGUI=1 does is to make the system 'type' WIN itself.
(So if you create a C:\WIN.BAT file, WIN will run that file instead of
running W95!)

> P.S.
> Here is my the config file :
> 
> [menu]
> menuitem=W95, Boot Windows95
> menuitem=LINUX, Boot Linux
> menudefault=W95,30
> 
> [W95]
> shell=win

That doesn't look right. I have
 shell=c:\windows\command.com c:\windows /p /e:1024
in my W95 config.sys, which I assume is used for the DOS prompt.

> [LINUX]
> shell=c:\loadlin\loadlin.exe @C:\loadlin\linux.par
> 
> [COMMON]
> rem THERE SHOULD BE NOTHING for COMMON
> rem move all you have to W95 part
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Modem documents (was Re: Homer has the ppp blues)

1997-04-18 Thread David Wright
On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Rick wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately my modem didn't come with a manual telling me these details. 
> (I think I could send off for one which would cost me $30 - a little
> expensive I think.) Do you know what these things mean/do?  Ie what are
> DTR/DCD settings?  What does AT&C1&D2 mean and do?  Is there any document
> on the net explaining basic modem commands and basically how a modem
> works.  I really don't have a clear picture at the moment. 

It's worth trying the manufacturers' web sites, e.g. www.usr.com and
www.nb.rockwell.com/ref for a start.

But what I want is something that does the same for Fax, esp. Class 2.0
(which remarkably is not the same as Class 2!). Does anybody have any
addresses?
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Re: two problems

1997-04-18 Thread Jim Pick

> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to help someone put Debian on a Pentium 90 and we've run into
> the following problems with (1) ethernet card configuration and (2) trying
> to make a boot floppy.
> 
> The ethernet card is an Intel Etherexpress 16 ISA card. It apparently has
> an IRQ of 11 and io address 0x300. The kernel seems to recognize this at 
> boot time and loads eth0. It says something about autoloading of modules
> not being recommended for this card but, other than that, everything seems
> to go fine. If one tries to use the ethernet card with dselect, ftp, etc,
> it will either refuse to work at all or it will give the following error:
> 
> eth0: CU Wedged, Status 0240 , Resetting...
> 
> The machine will then ftp to the requested address (or telnet there)
> mixing normal text with the above error. Eventually (within about 5
> minutes) the system will hang and needs to be rebooted.

The Intel EtherExpress 16 card does not work with Linux.

Someone should really update the Hardware compatibility HOW-TO,
and the driver should be pulled from the kernel, IMHO.

I had two of these, and I had to chuck them.  They're so old that
they are practically worthless anyways.

If you read the source code in the Linux kernel, you'll see that
the code that prints "CU Wedged, Status 0240 , Resetting..."
is just a really bad hack, and that the author couldn't really
figure the card out.

Maybe if you wanted to do some investigation -- you could get the
documentation for the hardware from Intel and try to rewrite
the driver.  This would be tough-going though, the card is pretty
old so finding documentation would be difficult.

It's probably much easier to just replace it.  You can get good 
network cards that work for approximately $25 nowadays.

Cheers,

 - Jim






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two problems

1997-04-18 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hi,

I'm trying to help someone put Debian on a Pentium 90 and we've run into
the following problems with (1) ethernet card configuration and (2) trying
to make a boot floppy.

The ethernet card is an Intel Etherexpress 16 ISA card. It apparently has
an IRQ of 11 and io address 0x300. The kernel seems to recognize this at 
boot time and loads eth0. It says something about autoloading of modules
not being recommended for this card but, other than that, everything seems
to go fine. If one tries to use the ethernet card with dselect, ftp, etc,
it will either refuse to work at all or it will give the following error:

eth0: CU Wedged, Status 0240 , Resetting...

The machine will then ftp to the requested address (or telnet there)
mixing normal text with the above error. Eventually (within about 5
minutes) the system will hang and needs to be rebooted.

Floppy problem: When the menu option "Make Boot Floppy" is chosen from the
debian rescue disk menu, the machine will fail to verify the first
sector/track of the 1440 floppy. It will keep trying and keep failing to
verify subsequent sectors/tracks and will eventually give up. The floppy
drive is a 2.88M drive but it reads the rescue floppy alright so it's not
clear what the problem is. 

Does anyone know what might cause one or the other or both of these
problems? Thanks much.

J. Goldman


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Re: NFS and debian packaging system

1997-04-18 Thread Portuesi Simone
Andreas Tille wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Portuesi Simone wrote:
> 

> What parts do you want to share??? I try to share
> /usr
> parts of /var
> /home (in the future)
> How to unmount /usr while installing/uninstalling??

I wanted to share man pages, info files, and /usr/doc, just to save
10-20 Mb. 


> If I would be dpkg I would complain about a unmounted /usr ;-).
>

But it'll complaint for a non mounted /usr/man?
 
> > Yep, I think I can, I just wanted to make installation as clean as
> > possible as University installation with many people administrating or
> > working at root level  (S.O. and network) experimenting tend to enhance
> In my opinion a System can't only be as clean as possible if only one
> adminitrator (may be two if the main administrator is absend) does the
> job. I think your idea will lead to a confusing system.

You are right, but the current and future use contrasts this.
"Theoricaly, theory and practice are the same, in practice they are
different. "


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init level

1997-04-18 Thread Linh Dang


I've got some diskcorruptions on my root partition. After some dpkg --install,
my system is now running fine. But I can't change run-level anymore...

$ telinit 1
No more processes in this runlevel

Another question, what is the file /etc/runlevel ??? I might have lost it
during the disk corruption (i.e. I don't have it now).

Help please !


L.D.


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Re: Problem with apache and includes

1997-04-18 Thread Chad Zimmerman


Chad D. Zimmerman
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On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Andree Leidenfrost wrote:

> I have apache-1.1.3-6 up and running on an otherwise basically
> Debian-1.2.9 system. Everything is running fine so far, the only real
> problem is that server includes are not working. Maybe it is worth
> mentioning that the machine was in fact updated from an older Slackware
> distribution recently (where server includes used to work) and I decided
> to also change the http server from CERN to Apache.
> 
> Ok, what I would like is that lines like the following work again (as
> they did before with the CERN server):
> 
> 
> 
> I understand that server includes are turned off in the standard
> access.conf file. Consequently I turned 'Includes' globally for the
> whole document root:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Options Includes
> 
> AllowOverride None
> order allow,deny
> allow from all
> 
> 

No wonder... this isn't for server side includes.. Includes ARE turned on
by default.  It is the .html extension, it is called out by default
.shtml3 I think.. it is in one of the .conf files.. for get which right
now though.  Eirther use the name that is called out there, or go edit it
like I did so that it is .html

Chad

> 
> 
> Unfortunately this didn't yield the desired result. I read some more of
> the documentation and tried some other things but without any success so
> far. So, I am completely clueless and would be very grateful to any help
> and hint!
> 
> Heaps of thanks in advance,
> 
>   Andree
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Re: What do I do: forwarded message from Cron Daemon

1997-04-18 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> 
>  I've been getting this from cron every day.  What is wrong, and how
> do I fix it?  TIA
> 
> ---
> 
> Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> run-parts /etc/cron.daily
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 06:43:38 -0700
> From: root (Cron Daemon)
> To: root
> 
> shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent 
> directories
> 

Most likely some package you de-installed left it's cron job hanging
around. This sort of message (not in the context here albeit) has
most often occured with me when I was in a directory (in a bash 
session) and I deleted the directory I was in. You'll have to look 
in the cron job files to see where the failure occurs:
 
 /var/spool/cron/crontabs/


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Re: Is there an xterm for windows or win95.

1997-04-18 Thread Jim Pick

>  I have been looking for a xterminal that could be used on 
> windows 3.1 or win95 to operate with XFree86.  Does such a thing 
> exist?  My shop is primarily DOS based and such a thing would make my 
> life much easier.  After talking to a friend from digital, he says 
> that they have an I'mplementation to run on their systems so I thought 
> such a thing might exist here.

Yes.  Unfortunately, they're all commercial.

You might want to try:

NCD PC/XWare
WRQ Reflection/X
Hummingbird eXceed

There's a free (albeit commercial) X Server
which I haven't tried yet at:

http://www.microimages.com/www/html/freestuf/mix.htm

Cheers,

 - Jim





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Re: /usr/lib/cgi-bin ownerships and permissions

1997-04-18 Thread Jim Pick

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> 
> My question pertains to dedicating a user to webmaster to allow the user
> to create and maintain cgi scripts. 
> 
> First, do cgi scripts get run by www-data?
> 
> When apache (or I assume any web server following the new web standard) is
> installed, it creates the directory /usr/lib/cgi-bin (if it wasn't there
> already) with the directory cgi-bin belonging to root:root and permission
> 755 (which is what the policy manual dictates).
> 
> What do I need to do to dedicate a user to be webmaster and to be able to 
> write cgi-scripts? I thought I would just need to add that user to group
> www-data. However, the user would still not be able to write to
> /usr/lib/cgi-bin. Obviously, I could just change the permissions from 755
> to 775 but I thought I would ask in case this is a security risk. If this
> is correct, should it be set up that way in the first place? Am I missing
> anything?
> 
> Cheers, Colin.

You could use 'chown' to change the user of the /usr/lib/cgi-bin directory
to be the user that will be running the cgi scripts.  Another alternative
may be to change the ScriptAlias directive in the apache configuration
files to point at a cgi-bin directory that the user owns.  Or you want want
to use a group to allow a number of different people to create the
cgi files.  Changing the permissions is ok, as long as you restrict access
to only the www-data group (or whatever group is appropriate).

The scripts will be run as whatever the 'User' directive in the apache 
configuration files is set to.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Re: /usr/lib/cgi-bin ownerships and permissions

1997-04-18 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Colin Telmer writes:

 > My question pertains to dedicating a user to webmaster to allow the user
 > to create and maintain cgi scripts. 
 > 
 > First, do cgi scripts get run by www-data?

 Yes, they are run as the same user and group as the server, which you 
set in the configuration files under "/etc/apache".

 With Apache 1.2, there is a program called `suexec` (I think) that
lets CGI scripts run as the user that owns them.  There is also a
program out called `CGI-wrap`, that will do the similar thing.  You
can configure Apache to run cgi from anyplace you tell it; or any
executable with a certain extension, etc.  The documentation will tell
you a lot.

 > When apache (or I assume any web server following the new web standard) is
 > installed, it creates the directory /usr/lib/cgi-bin (if it wasn't there
 > already) with the directory cgi-bin belonging to root:root and permission
 > 755 (which is what the policy manual dictates).

 I like to set that directory ownership root.webmaste, and set the
permissions to u=rwx,g=rwxs,o=rx.  Then you just add whomever you like
to the webmaste group, and they have access then.  The SGID bit on the
directory ensures that all files they create will be owned by group
webmaste.

 Another thing you can do is set `htpasswd` to root.www-data,
u=rx,g=rxs,o=rx, so that when it creates a password file, it creates
it group owned by www-data.  The user can then `chmod u=rw,g=rw,o=`
the .htpasswd file, and nobody else on the system can grab it.  (I
think that a cgi script running as www-data could still get the
passwords, and that the `suexec` wrapper is meant to solve this sort
of thing.)

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Re: more nis problems

1997-04-18 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dean B. Cookson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is it my imagination, or does the NIS included with Debian not pay any
>attention to the services map?  I've got an application (DQS from FSU)
>that won't run on a Debian box running NIS because it can't find the 
>services entry that's in the database, but runs just fine on a RedHat
>box using NYS...
>
>Is there an NYS.deb out there somewhere?

No, Debian uses the standard libc5 NIS, while RedHat uses a diffently
compiled libc5 with NYS support. Note the difference (NIS - NYS).

After 1.3 is released, all packages will be converted to GNU libc (libc6).
GNU libc has proper and complete NIS (and soon NIS+) support. The NIS
code is based on libc5 NYS but is even more complete.

Mike.
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smail config

1997-04-18 Thread Alexander Lazarevic
Hi!

How do I tell smail, that a single user shouldn't be allowed
to send/receive email?

Alex.


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loadlin impacts on W95

1997-04-18 Thread Eugene Sevinian
I hope someone can help me to fix this.
Following the instructions provided by loadlin's manual I had
mofified msdos.sys seting " BootGUI=0 and Logo=0 "   
Now I have windows producing :
"Missing or corrupted file: COMMAND.COM
File creation error" (or something like that ).
However I can enter into W95 typing WIN but I don't think 
this is right.

Thanks in advance,
Eugene.

P.S.
Here is my the config file :

[menu]
menuitem=W95, Boot Windows95
menuitem=LINUX, Boot Linux
menudefault=W95,30

[W95]
shell=win
[LINUX]
shell=c:\loadlin\loadlin.exe @C:\loadlin\linux.par

[COMMON]
rem THERE SHOULD BE NOTHING for COMMON
rem move all you have to W95 part
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/usr/lib/cgi-bin ownerships and permissions

1997-04-18 Thread Colin Telmer
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My question pertains to dedicating a user to webmaster to allow the user
to create and maintain cgi scripts. 

First, do cgi scripts get run by www-data?

When apache (or I assume any web server following the new web standard) is
installed, it creates the directory /usr/lib/cgi-bin (if it wasn't there
already) with the directory cgi-bin belonging to root:root and permission
755 (which is what the policy manual dictates).

What do I need to do to dedicate a user to be webmaster and to be able to 
write cgi-scripts? I thought I would just need to add that user to group
www-data. However, the user would still not be able to write to
/usr/lib/cgi-bin. Obviously, I could just change the permissions from 755
to 775 but I thought I would ask in case this is a security risk. If this
is correct, should it be set up that way in the first place? Am I missing
anything?

Cheers, Colin.

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Debian Package Finder

1997-04-18 Thread Adam Shand
Hi

There seems to have been quite a bit of interest in this (and it actually
works now). It was really only intended as a short term solution until (I
know I'm gonna botch his name) Heikki got his full featured one working
again at (again off the top of my head) rae.ton.fi.

The nice thing about ours is that it is *trivial* to install :)  If people
are willing to thrash it a bit and see if they can break it and see if
they can offer improvements then Joe and I will see if we can make a
debian package of it so that it can be distributied to lots of people so
that our little server (and more importantly our bandwidth) doesn't get
hammered.

Currently the packages files are set to get updated weekly.  From people
who know the debian site is this a realistic freqency or should it be more
often?

Adam.

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Re: Debian Package Finder (DOH!)

1997-04-18 Thread Adam Shand
> Next try:
> URL I POSTed:
> 
> http://www.hanoi.com/cgi-bin/joe/PFind.cgi?searchString=ncftp&default=frozen&searchAll=frozen%2Cunstable%2Ccontrib%2Cnon-free
 ^

Err what happened to hanoi.earthlight.co.nz??

I think what is happening is that the script posts the information to teh
computer 'hanoi'.  Since Netscape is *smart* it figures out that there is
no such computer as 'hanoi' and so changes it to www.hanoi.com to see if
that exists.

I'll get this is now fixed (or should be) as it no longer posts to a
relative host name.

Adam.

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Problem with apache and includes

1997-04-18 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
I have apache-1.1.3-6 up and running on an otherwise basically
Debian-1.2.9 system. Everything is running fine so far, the only real
problem is that server includes are not working. Maybe it is worth
mentioning that the machine was in fact updated from an older Slackware
distribution recently (where server includes used to work) and I decided
to also change the http server from CERN to Apache.

Ok, what I would like is that lines like the following work again (as
they did before with the CERN server):



I understand that server includes are turned off in the standard
access.conf file. Consequently I turned 'Includes' globally for the
whole document root:






Options Includes

AllowOverride None
order allow,deny
allow from all




Unfortunately this didn't yield the desired result. I read some more of
the documentation and tried some other things but without any success so
far. So, I am completely clueless and would be very grateful to any help
and hint!

Heaps of thanks in advance,

Andree
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Re: Debian Package Finder (DOH!)

1997-04-18 Thread Kevin Traas
> > The requested URL /cgi-bin/joe/PFind.cgi was not found on this server.
> 
> A number of people have reported getting this error... if you are still
> getting it please let me know.  It works perfectly for me so if it's
still
> broken i need to know so I can figure out why.

Uh, I don't get a script not found, I get a server not found.

Server is shown as //hanoi/pathname - it should read
//hanoi.earthlight.co.nz/

Hope this helps,

Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
Edmondson Roper CA
http://www.eroper.bc.ca


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Re: Debian Package Finder (DOH!)

1997-04-18 Thread Fredrik Ax
On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, Adam Shand wrote:

> > The requested URL /cgi-bin/joe/PFind.cgi was not found on this server.
> 
> A number of people have reported getting this error... if you are still
> getting it please let me know.  It works perfectly for me so if it's still
> broken i need to know so I can figure out why.
> 

I still have the problem BUT if you on the page you get the error
msg chage the server "www.hanoi.com" to "hanoi.earthlight.co.nz"
it works just fine.

If you e.g. search for tetex you get the error msg on URL:
http://www.hanoi.com/cgi-bin/joe/PFind.cgi?searchString=tetex&default=...

change it to:
http://hanoi.earthlight.co.nz/cgi-bin/joe/PFind.cgi?searchString=tetex...

I hope this helps you find the bug!

Regards
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Re: Debian Package Finder (DOH!)

1997-04-18 Thread Adam Shand
> The requested URL /cgi-bin/joe/PFind.cgi was not found on this server.

A number of people have reported getting this error... if you are still
getting it please let me know.  It works perfectly for me so if it's still
broken i need to know so I can figure out why.

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Re: NFS and debian packaging system

1997-04-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Portuesi Simone wrote:

> The problem is that I would like to reduce workarounds as much as
> possible as I'me not the only one to administrate it. Probably the best
> solution is to un-mount the shared partitions when removing packages,
> but:
What parts do you want to share??? I try to share
/usr
parts of /var
/home (in the future)
How to unmount /usr while installing/uninstalling?? 

>  I don't know how dpkg and dselect are going to react to this.
If I would be dpkg I would complain about a unmounted /usr ;-).
 
> Yep, I think I can, I just wanted to make installation as clean as
> possible as University installation with many people administrating or
> working at root level  (S.O. and network) experimenting tend to enhance
In my opinion a System can't only be as clean as possible if only one
adminitrator (may be two if the main administrator is absend) does the
job. I think your idea will lead to a confusing system.

> over time all the initial installation flaws, thats why we chose debian
> (as well with others considarations), it's packaging system permits to
> renew and maintain installations at lower risks. 
I think that's the right choice :-).
 
Andreas.


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Re: Emacs keys differences between console and X

1997-04-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, David Pfitzner wrote:

> > On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Andreas Tille wrote:
> 
> I had a problem like this, and I think the main thing I had to do
> to get the behaviour I wanted was to uncomment "XkbDisable"
> in my /etc/X11/XF86Config.
> (I had guessed wrong when the setup had asked about xkb...)
Hmmm, yes  now works like expected but German Umlauts
disapeared.  So that couldn't be a soulution for me because
I need the Umlauts much more than the Meta key moreover I don't
know how to write Umlauts in this case but I know a method to
get Meta if  isn't working :-).

But thanks for this answer.

By the way my XF86config looks like

XkbLayout   "de"
XkbVariant  "nodeadkeys"
XkbKeymap   "xfree86(de)"

but I have to press  after ~, ', `, ^.  Thought it shouldn't be
necessary for nodeadkeys.

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ftp in access lost

1997-04-18 Thread Hussein May
Hello,

could you tell me please, where i find alot of Information about 

dbkg-ftp , then i lost the ftp"-Funktion" in the Access menu in dselect

after my installation from debian.

my Question: How can i back the dpkg-ftp back from the Netscape to my

Access menu in dselect ??


Thank you very much.

and hav' a good day,


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compiling C source for HP850C ghostscript driver from OS/2 or DOS on Linux

1997-04-18 Thread Alan Eugene Davis

MOre than once I have tried compiling C source on linux, using gcc,
that generated alot of error messages, including many concerning
backslashes at the ends of lines.  An example is an existing
ghostscript driver for the HP850C Deskjet into ghostscript.  The main
problem I had was with this source code, that I suspected was
developed on MSDOG or OS/2.  It had a lot of "^M" like characters in
it.  

Can anyone provide the slightest clue?   What's special about MSDOG
source code files that would result in many error messages?  At least
a clue, otherwise, what I tried to do was delete all "^M" chars and
all backslashes at the ends of lines.  Even this wasn't enough.

Thanks for any clude.  Any.

Alan Davis

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Re: Compaq Smart Array Controller

1997-04-18 Thread Maarten Boekhold
> I need to put a UNIX on a Compaq Proliant 800.  I use Debian 1.2 at
home
> love it, but I have a question about hardware compatibility.
> 
> Has any installed Debian on a Compaq server with a SMART2/P Array
> Controler?

About the SMART2 controller, I've heard that it has a
(NCR)|(Symbios)53c875 on it and should be recognized given the prober
drivers are compiled in. I don't know how you can access RAID-features,
but I think it's completely transparent from the OS point of view (aren't
all those things taken care of by the board itself and can't you configure
them by using the cards BIOS?).

I'm curious about the SMART RAID-controller from compaq (ie. version 1).
Anybody got some info on that one?

Maarten

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Re: Fatal Error Message During My Linux 1.2 Installation

1997-04-18 Thread Philippe Troin

On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:23:08 -1000 David & Melody Bohn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> Why do I keep getting a "Fatal Error: Cannot seek on disk
> drive" message during the "Partition The Hard Drive" portion of the
> installation of Debian version 1.2.  When I "View the Partition Table"
> this is the configuration of my Pentium200:

[snip]

The old version of cfdisk is completely broken for disks >2GB.
Don't use it, or it will *break* your partition table.
Use fdisk.
Or upgrade to util-linux 2.5-10.

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Re: ongoing drama: nis problems

1997-04-18 Thread Philippe Troin

On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:11:04 PDT Michael J Devine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> Through the diligent efforts of this support list, I have nearly conquered
> the nis problem... almost.
> I have the two machines (server and client) talking, but only insofar as
> sharing a password file.  The user can't access his/her files if s/he logs
> in on the client machine...

Er, NIS is only supposed to share passwords (and other config stuff too). TO 
share filesystems, you're wanting into NFS.
See rpc.nfsd, exports, mount, nfs manpages.
In short:

  Add this line to your server's export:
/home  *.  (rw)
 Then reboot, or do /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs start

  Add this line to your client's fstab:
:/home /home nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,bg,intr
 Then do mount -a.

You must have NFS in your client's kernel (or as a module).

But *first* read the manpages. NFS can be a security problem is badly 
configured !

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Re: Mounting a floppy

1997-04-18 Thread Philippe Troin

On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:31:56 EDT "Christian Hudon" 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> > Here it is: man mount.
> > Explained a little further:
> > add a line like this in /etc/fstab:
> >   /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos rw,uid=0,gid=25,noauto,user,umask=007
> > 
> > Now everyone can mount and umount the floppy, but only the users
> > belonging to group floppy (GID 25) will be able to read and write it
> > (this what the umask command does).
> 
> Hmm. Is there any way to do this for cdrom's too? I'd like to restrict
> access to whatever is mounted under /cdrom to a given group.

Yes, of course. Pick a GID, replace /dev/fd0 by /dev/cdrom (or 
whatever the cdrom device is), and replace the gid=25 by something 
else.

> Btw, affs is providing a feature equivalent to msdos's umask, except that
> they called it 'mode' instead. I'd be nice if the option names were
> consistent... Would should I talk to about that?

Wrong !
Affs mode switch changes all files permissions to the given mode (from the 
mount manpage). The msdos and iso9660 fs have umask, which is a mask specifying 
the bits to discard on the existing permissions.
Subtle difference ! :-)

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talk

1997-04-18 Thread A. M. Varon

Sorry to bother all of you, I have fixed the talk problem in my linux.


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Re: "Press any key to see message: e..."

1997-04-18 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
On Apr 18, Shane D. McAndrew wrote
> I have a strange problem whilst reading the debian-user mailing lists with
> my mail reader Elm 2.4 PL25 and metamail 2.7-15.

The "unstable" tree now has "elm-me+", which has better support for MIME and
PGP than plain old elm; you might want to use that (or "mutt", which is
somewhat elm-like and has a number of very nice features).

> The next messages, marked with a "P" produce the following error when opened-
> 
> Press any key to see message: e, and can't access the PGP keyring
> 
> ...so then I go ahead and press a key, and the message source is
> displayed. Yes, it does sound like a configuration problem, but can
> someone tell me why about 50% of the debian-user-digests are marked "M"
> and the rest are "P" and sometimes "S"? I can't see any pattern, I
> would expect them to be all one or the other.

It might have to do with the way elm categorizes them. 'P' and 'S' are for
messages which use PGP. Unlike mutt, elm uses only one character position to
give this information; maybe 'P' or 'S' override 'M'?

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netscape won't use disk cache?!

1997-04-18 Thread David Pfitzner
The problem: netscape seems to be refusing to use disk cache.

Some details:
Debian 1.2 (based on Infomagic Dec'96, various upgrades)
netscape_3.01-4.deb used as installer for:
netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz

It's configured (under options etc) to use disk cache; it creates the 
directory ~/.netscape/cache if necessary, and the file index.db;
there _is_ free space on the disk ...
But no other files ever appear in the cache directory, and pages are not
cached between sessions.

Things which didn't help:
- (re)moving ~/.netscape (ie to reset user-config);
- using different user (including root);
- purging and re-installing netscape package.

I started getting paranoid and wondering if I ever had netscape 
using disk cache, but backups from my previous Slackware install
(and netscape 3.0) _do_ show cache files.
So I tried the 3.0 netscape binary that I had used with Slackware
(from netscape-v30-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz)
and it still didn't use disk cache!  

Which suggests to me that there is something wrong with my setup which 
netscape doesn't like (and which was ok under Slackware), rather than, 
eg, a problem with the Debian netscape-installer.

Any ideas?  

I'm using a modem, so it's rather annoying to wait to download files 
which should already be on my hard drive...

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"Press any key to see message: e..."

1997-04-18 Thread Shane D. McAndrew
Hi,

I have a strange problem whilst reading the debian-user
mailing lists with my mail reader Elm 2.4 PL25 and
metamail 2.7-15.

Below is an example of my "inbox" -

   M 1   Apr 18 debian-user-digest (725)  debian-user-digest Digest V97 #126
   P 2   Apr 17 debian-user-digest (826)  debian-user-digest Digest V97 #125
   P 3   Apr 17 debian-user-digest (909)  debian-user-digest Digest V97 #124
 
The first message is recognised as mime coded message,
and is displayed accordingly. The headers of the mail messages
not displayed for some reason which I find a bit annoying
but I can live with it.

The next messages, marked with a "P" produce the following error when opened-

Press any key to see message: e, and can't access the PGP keyring

...so then I go ahead and press a key, and the message source is
displayed. Yes, it does sound like a configuration problem, but can
someone tell me why about 50% of the debian-user-digests are marked "M"
and the rest are "P" and sometimes "S"? I can't see any pattern, I
would expect them to be all one or the other.

Thanks in advance

-Shane D. McAndrew


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Re: DEITY TEAM: Minor query re: .deb format

1997-04-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 17, 1997 at 02:53:12PM -0400,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
>  Just out of curiosity, why did Debian decide to use a .deb package 
> format, as opposed to, say, a "debian_control" file inside the .tar 
> archive? So far as I can see:
> 
>  CONS:
>   Cannnot use the Debianized package without dpkg.
>   Difficult to "unDebianize".

Not at all; I quite often extract debian packages by hand on
non-debian systems to get documentation etc. The .deb is an ar
archive, containing some .tar files. Use "ar x "
to extract the internal stuff.

>  Using the universally (well, Unixversally) supported .tar standard has 
> only one con that I can see - you have to at least use "tar -t" to see if 
> the package has been Debianized. This seems a small price to pay to avoid 
> the other disadvantages.

Same story with Redhat. Slackware uses .tgz, but there are basically
no packages available except the standard distribution, and they're
just a big of control info added -- not a lot different to Debian,
really.

Hamish
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Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS

1997-04-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 17, 1997 at 10:30:40AM -0500, Leslie Mikesell wrote:
> How about including smbfs in the base kernel and allowing installation
> from a Win95 or NT share?  Almost every office is going to have one

I started fiddling with the dselect method scripts last week,
in an attempt to implement an SMB method. Some unsolved
problems as yet, and no time at present to work on it.
But will let you know.


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Debian Package Finder (DOH!)

1997-04-18 Thread Adam Shand
Ima dick...

The URL is: http://hanoi.earthlight.co.nz/cgi-bin/joe/PFind.cgi

Adam


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Debian Package Finder

1997-04-18 Thread Adam Shand
Hi

Joe Skinner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) have written a debian package finder.
It is *very* simple but it works.  If people think that this would be
usefull (this was written because I was so upset at the last one
dissappearing) feel free to use it.  It is in NZ so it won't be blinding
but it does seem to do well enough.

Comments are appreciated :)

Adam.

PS. Joe wrote the code in python and I made it pretty and said what I
wanted it to do.



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Re: Compaq Smart Array Controller

1997-04-18 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:07:27 -0700, Thomas Harrington wrote:

>I need to put a UNIX on a Compaq Proliant 800.  I use Debian 1.2 at home
>love it, but I have a question about hardware compatibility.
>
>Has any installed Debian on a Compaq server with a SMART2/P Array
>Controler?

Who makes it and what model? (Yank the board and look)

Since it's called SMART, it might be a DPT SmartRAID, a very good board that
is fully supported by linux.

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ongoing drama: nis problems

1997-04-18 Thread Michael J Devine
Through the diligent efforts of this support list, I have nearly conquered
the nis problem... almost.
I have the two machines (server and client) talking, but only insofar as
sharing a password file.  The user can't access his/her files if s/he logs
in on the client machine...

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance...

Mike Devine


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Compaq Smart Array Controller

1997-04-18 Thread Thomas Harrington
I need to put a UNIX on a Compaq Proliant 800.  I use Debian 1.2 at home
love it, but I have a question about hardware compatibility.

Has any installed Debian on a Compaq server with a SMART2/P Array
Controler?

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Is there an xterm for windows or win95.

1997-04-18 Thread R. Chris Ross

 I have been looking for a xterminal that could be used on 
windows 3.1 or win95 to operate with XFree86.  Does such a thing 
exist?  My shop is primarily DOS based and such a thing would make my 
life much easier.  After talking to a friend from digital, he says 
that they have an I'mplementation to run on their systems so I thought 
such a thing might exist here.


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Man page format trashed.

1997-04-18 Thread R. Chris Ross

 I tried to look at the man page for FTP using xman and the 
format got all blown out of shape.  I think that it happened when the 
page was formatted the first time and now I keep looking at an 
incorrectly formatted page.  If the formatted file is gotten rid of 
then I'll be back in business.  What file am I looking for?



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Ethernet performance.

1997-04-18 Thread R. Chris Ross

 I am quite new at the world of IP networks and have been doing 
some testing on a Debian 1.2 system and Free BSD.  Last night I ran a 
test as described in one of the ethernet FAQs by running FTP on a 
file that was ~2.5Meg the rate came out at 1.09M/sec.  From what I 
can tell this is quite good for 10 Base2 since this indicates a rate 
around 8Mbit/sec of data not including overhead.  With no tuning at 
all it is supprising to get proformance on this order or am I faking 
my self out?

  Debian running on a pentium 133 Mhz 32Meg RAM as server.
  FreeBSD running on 486SLC 25 MHz 8 Meg RAM.


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Re: vi

1997-04-18 Thread Rob Browning
Carey Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > I'm sure there are even better ways to do this...
> 
> You mean something like (global-set-key [f5] "(")?

Exactly :>

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talk

1997-04-18 Thread A. M. Varon
Hi,

I have a problem with talk command in linux. when i type a message and
press enter, the whole line i type is removed! instead of moving down to
the next line. I am in the console by the way...

What is wrong, my termcap? Thank you in advance for any help...

regards,

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Re: Ping o' Death is killing pppd on my router.....

1997-04-18 Thread Carey Evans
Jason Costomiris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Sure, I could do that, but suppose pppd changes the order in which it
> passes parameters with the next pppd upgrade...  I'll still be running, if
> I used $4, and didn't know about the change, I'd be dead.

If pppd changes the order of its parameters with an upgrade, its
developers should be forced to use AOL for their Internet access for a
year, maybe two.

I'd say it's more likely that ifconfig would change its output.

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Re: "Frozen" Upgrade Troubles

1997-04-18 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Pete Harlan writes:

 > * fvwm2 blew away my /etc/X11/fvwm2 configuration files with empty
 > ones, without asking or warning me.

 My menus are all scrogged.  It keeps changing my fixes when I reboot
too, I think.  Grrr.

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Re: Homer has the ppp blues :-(

1997-04-18 Thread Mark Phillips
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Rick wrote:

> You might want to play with DTR/DCD settings.  I haven't had a problem
> like this before but it sounds like the modem is dropping DTR which, if I
> remember correctly, instructs the software that the data terminal is
> ready.  I believe there is a modem command that sets DTR on permanently.
> 
> Or maybe the Data Carrier Detect is dropping.  But I'm pretty sure that
> would cause the modem to really hang up.  It's been a while since I've
> messed with modem settings.  Look in your modem manual for a setting that
> is used for informing the software of the modems status.
> 
> AT&C1&D2 is the init string that used to be the fix all for me.  It sets
> the DTR/DCD to the correct setting for data, such as ppp or bbsing.  A few
> years ago manufacturers started to set factory defaults toward faxing
> which conflicts with data.  AT&C1&D2 fixes this.  Try it and see.  Give
> you a starting point to add compression and error correction etc...

Unfortunately my modem didn't come with a manual telling me these details. 
(I think I could send off for one which would cost me $30 - a little
expensive I think.) Do you know what these things mean/do?  Ie what are
DTR/DCD settings?  What does AT&C1&D2 mean and do?  Is there any document
on the net explaining basic modem commands and basically how a modem
works.  I really don't have a clear picture at the moment. 

Thanks.



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Emacs keys differences between console and X

1997-04-18 Thread Richard Sharman
Andreas Tille writes:
 > 
 > I've done some key bindings in my .emacs (more detailed in an
 > *.el file called from .emacs but this is not the point):
 > 
 > (global-set-key [C-left]  'backward-word)
 > (global-set-key [C-right] 'forward-word)
 > (global-set-key [C-prior] 'beginning-of-buffer)
 > (global-set-key [C-next]  'end-of-buffer)
 > 
 > Well, this works fine under X :-). But under X the -key
 > refuses to work as Meta. In any case I have to press -... .

Check that your XF86Config file has this in it (in the 
Section "keyboard"):

LeftAlt Meta
RightAltMeta


 > 
 > While working at the console my -key works fina as Meta,
 > but the key bindings mentioned above don't work.  or any
 >  works fine but it seems me that the Control key didn't
 > work together with other special keys.  A hint for this
 > behaviour is that  says that 
 > was pressed (the same when trying  seems only
 > the F?-key to be pressed).
 > 

This is much harder.   Here's how to do it.  Basically we use
dumpkeys and loadkeys to specify what happens when you press
Control-left,  then we teach emacs about it.  


1. Use dumpkeys to dump the current key table

% dumpkeys > k

We'll copy that to k.orig to compare our changes after.

2.  Search in this file for "Left" and we find

keycode 105 = Left
alt keycode 105 = Decr_Console

Now, it would seem that all we have to do would be to add
control keycode 105 = Control_left

But this doesn't work, because loadkeys doesn't know the symbol name
Control_left (or anything like it).  However, there are lots of "spare"
keysym names.  We'll start with F50.

So we make 2 changes.  Define control left to use string F50
control keycode 105 = F50
and then tell it what characters to produce for F50.

But what should they be?  They could be anything you want,  even
something silly like "control left was pressed".  However, this
wouldn't be useful in emacs.  Since left generated the sequence
Esc [ D
I tried using
Esc [ C-d
(meaning escape, left square bracked, control D).  You want to ensure
that this isn't used by anything else, and isn't a prefix of an
existing emacs binding.  I was lucky in this choice.

So, we add this to file k:

# left is  Esc [ D,  so make  Control-left Esc [ C-d
string F50 = "\033[\004"

3.  Now use loadkeys to load these definitions in.
You'll have to be root to do this bit.

# loadkeys k
Loading k
#

4. Now, press C-h c Control-left in emacs.   It should say 

ESC [ C-d is undefined

That's good!  Now to teach emacs what it means.  We could do this:

(global-set-key "\M-[\C-d"   'backward-word)

which works,  but better would be to actually tell emacs that
Esc [ C-d  (or Meta-[ C-d as emacs prints it) is Control-left.
To do this:

(define-key function-key-map "\M-[\C-d"  '[C-left])

Now pressing C-h C-left should show:

C-left runs the command backward-word

It turns out that emacs already have backward-word bound to
Control-left;  otherwise we would have used

(global-set-key '[C-left] 'backward-word)


5.  Repeat for control-right.  Since right is  Esc [ D   we can
use Esc [ C-d.   Prior is   Esc [ 5 ~  so what should C-Prior
generate?  I tried   C-h c  Esc [ 5 #and that that wasn't used so
I went with that,  and   Esc [ 6 #   for Control-next.a


So,  the differences for loadkey are:

% diff -c k.orig k
*** k.orig  Wed Apr 16 21:42:20 1997
--- k   Wed Apr 16 22:41:01 1997
***
*** 223,236 
--- 223,243 
  keycode 103 = Up  
  keycode 104 = Prior   
shift   keycode 104 = Scroll_Backward 
+   control keycode 104 = F52
  keycode 105 = Left
alt keycode 105 = Decr_Console
+ # This doesn't work:
+ # control keycode 105 = Control_left
+ # So use F50
+   control keycode 105 = F50
  keycode 106 = Right   
alt keycode 106 = Incr_Console
+   control keycode 106 = F51
  keycode 107 = Select  
  keycode 108 = Down
  keycode 109 = Next
shift   keycode 109 = Scroll_Forward  
+   control keycode 109 = F53
  keycode 110 = Insert  
  keycode 111 = Remove  
control alt keycode 111 = Boot
***
*** 346,348 
--- 353,371 
  compose '"' 'y' to 'ÿ'
  compose 's' 'z' to 'ß'
  compose 'i' 'j' to 'ÿ'
+ 
+ # left is  Esc [ D,  so make  Control-left Esc [ C-d
+ string F50 = "\033[\004"
+ 
+ # similarly, make Control-Left  Esc [ C-c
+ string F51 = "\033[\003"
+ 
+ # F52:  Control-Prior
+ # prior is Esc [ 5 ~   Let's use Esc [ 5 # for it
+ string F52 = "\033[5#"
+ 
+ # F53:  Control-Next
+ # next is Esc [ 6 ~
+ string F53 = "\033[6#"
+ 
+ 
% 

And the required elisp code is:

(define-key function-key-map "\M-[\C-d"  '[C-left])
(define-key function-key-map "\M-[\C-c"  '[C-right])
(define-key function-key-map "\M-[5#" '[C-prior])
(define-key function-key-map "\M-[6#" '[C-next])
(global-

Re: Mounting a floppy

1997-04-18 Thread Christian Hudon
On Apr 17, Philippe Troin wrote
> 
> Here it is: man mount.
> Explained a little further:
> add a line like this in /etc/fstab:
>   /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos rw,uid=0,gid=25,noauto,user,umask=007
> 
> Now everyone can mount and umount the floppy, but only the users
> belonging to group floppy (GID 25) will be able to read and write it
> (this what the umask command does).

Hmm. Is there any way to do this for cdrom's too? I'd like to restrict
access to whatever is mounted under /cdrom to a given group.

Btw, affs is providing a feature equivalent to msdos's umask, except that
they called it 'mode' instead. I'd be nice if the option names were
consistent... Would should I talk to about that?

  Christian



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Fatal Error Message During My Linux 1.2 Installation

1997-04-18 Thread David & Melody Bohn
Aloooha,

Why do I keep getting a "Fatal Error: Cannot seek on disk
drive" message during the "Partition The Hard Drive" portion of the
installation of Debian version 1.2.  When I "View the Partition Table"
this is the configuration of my Pentium200:

/dev/hda1 * 1   1   508 2048224 +   6   dos
16b>=32M
2   509 509 620 451584  5   extended
5   509 509 620 378976  +   6   dos
16b>=32M
6   603 603 620 72544   +   6   dos
16b>=32M

When I purchased my computer in December of 1996, I had intended to
install Linux and the swap on my machine.I was hoping to change hda5 to
400K for the Linux partition and hda6 to 51.5K for the swap. 

Is there a maximum limitation to the first partition (not the Linux
partition) that might preclude me from installing Linux at all?  I
couldn't find any documentation supporting this notion.

Thank you very much.
F. Melody Bohn


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Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS

1997-04-18 Thread Christian Hudon
On Apr 15, Dale Scheetz wrote
> Isn't this already available with get_selections and set_selections?

Yeah, but only 'oldtimers' know about that. I'd be nice if it could be
integrated in a more user-friendly way into "dselect 2". Something like:

Select Packages

 - Full list (provides collapsible tree list of all the packages

 - Package Groups (provides often-used configurations like 'C development
 machine', web server, etc. to help newbies get a working system
 quickly.)

 - Read "Selection list" (for sysadmins doing installs of Debian on many 
   machines)

Of course, there should also be a way to save the "selection list" to a
file somewhere.

  Christian


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Re: DEITY TEAM: Minor query re: .deb format

1997-04-18 Thread Paul Seelig
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
> 
> I'd think the info-zip package would have been a better choice since you
> can extract individual elements without uncomressing the whole mess and
> you wouldn't need two layers of archiving.
> 
I use the Midnight Commander for extracting single files from a *.deb
file. I could probably do it as well on the command line using dpkg if
i took the pain reading it's man page, but since MC does the trick and
i'm eternally lazy... ;-)  So where is the problem, please?

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Re: DEITY TEAM: Minor query re: .deb format

1997-04-18 Thread Paul Seelig
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (" Raymond A. Ingles") writes:

>  CONS:
>   Cannnot use the Debianized package without dpkg.
>   Difficult to "unDebianize".
>
Actually you can do this without any Debian specific tools.  GNU ar
should be included in any major Linux distribution.  Here a little
description on how to extract the contents of a Debian package on a
non Debian system:

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Using GNU "ar" you can extract the components from a *.deb archive for
further manual processing. The member "data.tar.gz" contains the
actual files to be installed and "control.tar.gz" contains all setup
scripts. The latter could eventually be important to examine if you
plan installing the Debian package in a non-debian system to make the
binaries workable.

This works only with newer Debian packages which are made using the
new Debian packaging version 2.0! For the older format you do need to
use dpkg-deb!

* With the v switch you get a more verbose output!

* For listing the Debian archive's contents use the t switch:

myprompt> ar tv mc_3.5.19-1_i386.deb
rw-r--r-- 0/0  4 Mar 12 06:58 1997 debian-binary
rw-r--r-- 0/0   1195 Mar 12 06:58 1997 control.tar.gz
rw-r--r-- 0/0 381874 Mar 12 06:58 1997 data.tar.gz
myprompt>

* For extracting all components use the x switch:

myprompt> ar xv mc_3.5.19-1_i386.deb
x - debian-binary
x - control.tar.gz
x - data.tar.gz
myprompt> ls -l
-rw-r--r-- 1 user group 1195 Mar 13 16:48 control.tar.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 user group   381874 Mar 13 16:48 data.tar.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 user group4 Mar 13 16:48 debian-binary
-rw-r--r-- 1 user group   383262 Mar 13 16:33 mc_3.5.19-1_i386.deb
myprompt>

* For extracting single members of the Debian archive use the p switch
  and rename them to something more descriptive by output redirection:

myprompt> ar pv mc_3.5.19-1_i386.deb data.tar.gz > mc_3.5.19.tar.gz
myprompt> ar pv mc_3.5.19-1_i386.deb control.tar.gz > mc_3.5.19-control.tar.gz
myprompt> ls -l mc*
-rw-r--r-- 1 user group   383262 Mar 13 16:33 mc_3.5.19-1_i386.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 user group 1195 Mar 13 16:58 mc_3.5.19-control.tar.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 user group   381874 Mar 13 16:58 mc_3.5.19.tar.gz
myprompt>

For further information consult the man page for "ar".
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Maybe this should be made part of the Debian-FAQ?

   Regards, P. *8^)
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Re: Linux Help Needed.

1997-04-18 Thread Britton

On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, val.tamarov wrote:

> Hi there !!!
> I installed Linux in my system but i can't run dselect to install all the
> packages.
> Please help me what to write when dselect asks me for the locations and
> some blocks, what I have to type there.  I have Pentium Pro (686) with to
> HD controllers on board. So my 2 HD's are conected to first controller and
> my primary master (c: drive) is for windows and dos, and second HD- primary
> slave (d: drive) is for Linux. My CD-ROM is conected to second conntroller
> as secondary master. If anything else needed please e-mail me.
> Thanks for your time and help
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This can be VERY confusing, I hope they make it easier with diety.
I forget how I did it.  (helpful huh?)  I think it was important not to
have mounted the cdrom before using dselect, you have to mount it with
dselect when it asks you.  Also, for the second question, I think there
was a '.' in there.  Once you get it to work correctly, you don't have to
deal with it again.  It is confusing even when you know exactly where on
the cdrom the stuff is located.



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Re: Do teTeX packages work well?

1997-04-18 Thread Mark Phillips

> >  Has anyone else tried NTeX at all?  I have that installed here; I
> > chose it because it comes with more documentation than teTeX did.  The 
> > installer is Debian compatible; it even provides the right packages
> > for things that depend on them.
>
> AFAIR Debian came with NTeX before.  I seem to remember that there
> were several problems with it.

To my knowledge NTeX has never been a part of Debian.  I have used NTeX
for some time now and have had very little in the way of problems.  The
main difficulty is that it is not a debian package.  True, you can install
it in /usr/local (which I currently do) but having a debian package is
much nicer which is why I am considering moving to teTeX. 

> Anyway there should be sufficient documentation about LaTeX across
> the net.  I just re-read the german lkurz alias LaTeX2e-Kurzbeschreibung.
> I'm sure that a similiar english document does exist, too.

But it is a pain to have to search the net for documentation and less
common latex styles, fonts etc.  It is nice to have everything in the
one distribution.

Why don't we reorganize TeX for debian as follows: get rid of unneccessary
older TeX packages (which I understand are buggy) and replace them with
teTeX.  That is, we use teTeX as the basis for debian TeX stuff.  Then we
could "value add" to teTeX by packaging stuff that it misses - eg all
the stuff that NTeX has that teTeX doesn't.

The other thing is, (and I haven't tried installing teTeX.deb yet so I
don't know), is there much flexibility with what you do and don't install
with teTeX?  Does the debian packaging of teTeX allow you flexibility, or
is it a case of all or nothing?

How easy was it to package teTeX for debian?  I presume teTeX has its own
packaging system?  Was it easy to convert from the teTeX system to the
debian system?  If it was difficult, would it be better for Debian to
concentrate more effort on getting a native TeX distribution to be
bug free?

I think it is in Debian's interest to think carefully about how to get
the best possible TeX distribution.  I think for a lot of people, having
a great TeX distribution would be a major selling point for the
distribution.  At the moment, Debian's TeX direction seems a little
confused.

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Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS

1997-04-18 Thread wb2oyc

On 14:30:40 Leslie Mikesell wrote:
>>One more idea to throw in the pot:
>
>How about including smbfs in the base kernel and allowing installation
>from a Win95 or NT share?  Almost every office is going to have one
>of those around where you can share out a CDROM with a couple of
>mouse clicks.  You could even do from with Windows-for-WorkGroups if you
>mangle the names to fit but that probably isn't worth the trouble.
>This might help a lot of people get their first Linux system up on
>machines that don't have their own CDROM drives.
>
>Les Mikesell
Les,
Now thats a great idea!  Think about it guys, this is good!

Paul


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Dependencies

1997-04-18 Thread David/Bill Benjamin
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Britton wrote:

> I'm sorry to be dogmatic, but I'm going to say one more time that I like
> things the way they are.  If something depends on seperately maintained
> library xyz it is not good but *GREAT* to know about it from the start. 
> The dependency structure sends this message to users load and clear, in a
> way that a lumped package scheme would not even if a full description of
> all dependencies were given when such a package was installed.  I really
> had no clue about the high level of software interdependence when I
> started with slackware, and it hurt me continually.  I think a little pain
> with dselect in the beginning would have saved me a lot of grief later.

I agree that an understanding of the dependency structure is very
important and helpful in avoiding future problems as the result of
mistakes in package maintenance. One thing that I would like to see added
to the dpkg program is an option to display the packages that are
necessary (and which ones are uninstalled) to configure a particular new
package. As I do not use dselect or dftp, this would be very timesaving to
me. For example, rather than using the trial-and-error approach, I could
do the following:

$ dpkg --list-depends blah_1.0-1.deb

Installed dependencies:
blah-base
ncurses

Required dependencies:
blah-lib

Conflicts:
none

Or something to that effect. Any thoughts?

Dave



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What do I do: forwarded message from Cron Daemon

1997-04-18 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom

 I've been getting this from cron every day.  What is wrong, and how
do I fix it?  TIA

--- Begin Message ---
shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent 
directories
--- End Message ---

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Re: Mounting a floppy

1997-04-18 Thread Philippe Troin

On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:34:16 EDT Matthew Tebbens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
ishkill.ibm.com) wrote:

> What would be the best way to mount a floppy drive and have it
> readable and/or writable by ONLY 2 users ?
> I notice that after I mount the floppy I can't change the mode to
> have it readable by a group. I'm probably doing something wrong,
> or not understanding something..

Here it is: man mount.
Explained a little further:
add a line like this in /etc/fstab:
  /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos rw,uid=0,gid=25,noauto,user,umask=007

Now everyone can mount and umount the floppy, but only the users belonging to 
group floppy (GID 25) will be able to read and write it (this what the umask 
command does).

Phil.



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Re: Homer has the ppp blues :-(

1997-04-18 Thread Mark Phillips
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

> Mark Phillips wrote:
> > As I already explained, pppd has a nasty habit of thinking the link is
> > dead when it isn't really.  With the old setup, the "persist" option
> > simply told pppd to renegotiate "handshaking" with the ppp process at the
> > other end.  With the new setup, pppd first runs the chat script and of
> > course this doesn't work as the modem link is already up, hence it never
> > gets to renegotiate the handshaking.
> 
> At any rate, when you say "pppd has the nasty habit of
> thinking the link is dead when it isn't" do you mean that pppd 
> determines that the link is down and then exits? And the modem 
> connection stays up? Why don't you turn on debugging for pppd and
> post the log trace here. We can probably fix this problem.

Yes, this is what I mean.  I have turned on debugging.  There seems
to be several relevant log files namely: "messages", "ppp.log", "debug".
The first two seem to give the most complete information, but let me
know if you need anything else.

Last night the problem occured again - I will include the log from ppp.log
below.  As you will see, pppd thinks it has received a Hangup (SIGHUP) 
even though there hasn't been one (or shouldn't have been on).  When it
tries to connect with chat again, it fails because all it receives from
the other end is ppp stuff. 

"ppp.log":

Apr 17 23:31:22 destiny pppd[13467]: local  IP address 129.96.250.162
Apr 17 23:31:22 destiny pppd[13467]: remote IP address 129.96.250.16
Apr 17 23:31:41 destiny pppd[13467]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Apr 17 23:31:41 destiny pppd[13467]: Modem hangup
Apr 17 23:31:41 destiny pppd[13467]: Connection terminated.
Apr 17 23:31:42 destiny chat[13780]: abort on (BUSY) 
Apr 17 23:31:42 destiny chat[13780]: abort on (NO CARRIER) 
Apr 17 23:31:42 destiny chat[13780]: abort on (VOICE) 
Apr 17 23:31:42 destiny chat[13780]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) 
Apr 17 23:31:42 destiny chat[13780]: send (ATDT82015010^M) 
Apr 17 23:31:42 destiny chat[13780]: expect (name:) 
Apr 17 23:32:27 destiny chat[13780]:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@([EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]"^Z^K^D*{^](Sx9^O.P^Q"[EMAIL PROTECTED]@X#~
Apr 17 23:32:27 destiny chat[13780]: alarm
Apr 17 23:32:27 destiny chat[13780]: send (^M) 
Apr 17 23:32:27 destiny chat[13780]: expect (name:) 
Apr 17 23:33:12 destiny chat[13780]:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@([EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]"^Z^K^D*{^](Sx9^O.P^Q"[EMAIL PROTECTED]@IV~
Apr 17 23:33:12 destiny chat[13780]: alarm
Apr 17 23:33:12 destiny chat[13780]: Failed
Apr 17 23:33:12 destiny pppd[13467]: Connect script failed


P.S. This problem doesn't seem to happen all the time.  Sometimes the
connection stays up fine.



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