Re: Null Modem

1997-05-16 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Jason Kusnier wrote:
 
 Does anyone know how to setup a null modem connect from linux to a livingston
 portmaster for a ppp connection?
 

Should be nothing to it. You need a null modem serial cable. Then
just connect. No chat script is needed.

pppd /dev/ttyS1

Off you go.

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Will ATI 3D Rage chips work with XFree86?

1997-05-16 Thread R. Chris Ross

 I wondered if the D3 Rage chip set boards would work with 
XFree86.  They are supposed to be quite hot and someone offered to 
trade me a Wincharge for one even up.


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BOOT ERROR?

1997-05-16 Thread Craig Chaney
I get this error message when I boot everytime. I didn't mean to put a MBR
on the drive, but I redid the one on hda. It is the secind HD on IDE.

Before I put the MBR on hdb, I didn't get the message.

Anyone have any suggestions about fixing the problem?

 hdb: [DM6:MBR] [remap  [DM6:MBR]] [656/128/63] hdb1 hdb2  hdb5 hdb6 hdb7
hdb8
 hdb3 hdb4

Thanks

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Re: Will ATI 3D Rage chips work with XFree86?

1997-05-16 Thread Rick Macdonald
R. Chris Ross wrote:
 
  I wondered if the D3 Rage chip set boards would work with
 XFree86.  They are supposed to be quite hot and someone offered to
 trade me a Wincharge for one even up.

I have an ATI Graphics Pro Turbo Mach64 (4MB VRAM) in my Pentium 133.

The wife needs a PC so she's getting mine I'm getting a P200MMX
with the newer ATI 3D Graphics Pro Turbo (4MB SDRAM, I think), with all
that PC2TV stuff. This has the 3D Rage chip set.

I've been assuming that the 3D Rage wasn't supported yet and was going
to keep the old card in the new machine.

I don't even know which board is faster. Anybody?

Maybe I should grab the new 3D GPT once the chipset is supported in
XFree?

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mail failed, returning to sender (fwd)

1997-05-16 Thread Mark W. Blunier


My outbound mail has started to bounce.  I don't think I upgraded anything
with my mail system, but I have been trying to keep up with bo and might
have missed something.  When I try to send a message Pine displays
what I've shown below.  I was originally set up for as a site connected
by ppp and all was fine.  My ISP is concentric.net but i pretend to be
from prairienet.org.
To post this message I had to change to pine config to use smtp instead
of smail. Any ideas on what to look for?  I haven't found
any config files that changed dates.  Could it be something with my
ISP?

Thanks
Mark W. Blunier
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Re: Frozen not really frozen ?

1997-05-16 Thread Rick Jones
On 15 May 1997, Tomislav Vujec wrote:

 Carpenter, Dean \(MS Mail\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I thought frozen was supposed to be, well, frozen.  
  
  Why is it that every day there are a bunch of replacements going on in
  that tree ?  Actually, there seem to have been more bo/frozen changes in
  the last few days than there have been in hamm/unstable :)
 
 Because frozen realy means frozen in new features/packages, not in
 bug-fixes.

Exactly!  Why would anyone bother to freeze software with bugs in it?  If
you want to do that you would just release it.  So it's obvious that bo is
frozen as stated above so the bugs can be ironed out to the best extent
possible.  This means that patched packages are exchanged with current
packages as bugs are fixed.


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Re: Null Modem

1997-05-16 Thread Rick Jones

Compile PLIP in your kernel.  The details are in PPP-HOWTO.

On Thu, 15 May 1997, Jason Kusnier wrote:

 Does anyone know how to setup a null modem connect from linux to a livingston 
 portmaster for a ppp connection?
 
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Re: .wav recording software?

1997-05-16 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Paul J. Clegg wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 I've got a SoundBlaster 32 on my Debian system, and I'd like to be able to
 record sounds for it.  In dselect, I didn't come across any packages that
 seem to do recording.  Does anyone know of a package (or just software
 somewhere) that can record to a .wav?  Thanks.
 
 I'm not currently on the mailing list; please respond to me directly
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  Thanks.  :)

Try:

http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel/sound/snd-util-3.0.tar.gz

I don't know why no one's made this stuff a package--it's the only
.wav playing software I could get to work *period*. There's a bunch
of utilities in there. The one you want ls vrec. It'll record whatever
res, etc. you want (and even put it into a MSWin wav format for you).

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Re: .wav recording software?

1997-05-16 Thread Clint Adams
 I've got a SoundBlaster 32 on my Debian system, and I'd like to be able to
 record sounds for it.  In dselect, I didn't come across any packages that
 seem to do recording.  Does anyone know of a package (or just software
 somewhere) that can record to a .wav?  Thanks.

sox, nas, and bplay are three packages that will do what you want.


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Colorado Parallel port tape

1997-05-16 Thread Stan Brown
How can I use a HP/Coloroda rape drive that connets to the parallel
port with my Deboan system?

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Re: libc5-dev and kernel-source

1997-05-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
Thomas == Thomas Gebhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thomas Hello, How do the include files in /usr/include/linux relate
Thomas to the files in /usr/src/kernel-source-/include/linux ?

Thomas Most of the include files are identical, others are
Thomas different. Isn't this a possible source of confusion?

This is an FAQ ;-). Here's my canned response ...

manoj

===
This document contains comments from Linus Torvalds (made in
 an ``off-the-cuff'' personal email) to help clarify the rationale
 behind the Debian way of handling symlinks, but this should not be
 seen as an official policy statement by Linus. I'm attaching a
 disclaimer in his own words.

The only reason that Linus's message is quoted in here is that
 he can explain the technical reasons with far more lucidity than I
 can, and now that I have permission to include his mail, I am
 removing most of my far less facile efforts in that regard. 


 David == David Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Mon, 24 Feb 1997
 Linus == Linus Torvalds said on Mon, 24 Feb 1997

David Hi Linus,
David No matter how well we try to explain ourselves, the symlinks issue
David keeps coming up.  Would you mind if we used your message below in
David our responses?

Linus Sure. Don't make it the word of God - please point out that
Linus it was a off-the-bat personal reply to a question concerning
Linus this, and while I'm more than happy to have the email
Linus circulated it shouldn't be seen as a official document in any
Linus way..
Linus Linus
---

The headers were included in libc5-dev after a rash of very
 buggy alpha kernel releases (1.3.7* or something like that) that
 proceeded to break compilations, etc.  Kernel versions are changed
 far more rapidly than libc is, and there are higer chances that
 people install a custom kernel than they install custom libc.

libc6 includes it's own version of /usr/include/linux and
 friends form the beginning (that is, this is no longer a Debian only
 feature, the upstream version has moved to this scheme as well).

 Linus == Linus Torvalds said on Wed, 22 Jan 1997:

Linus The kernel headers used to make sense exporting to user space,
Linus but the user space thing has grown so much that it's really not
Linus practical any more. The problem with Debian is just that they
Linus are different, not that they are doing anything wrong. That
Linus leads to differences between the distributions, and that in
Linus turn obviously can result in subtle problems.

Linus As of glibc, the kernel headers will really be _kernel_
Linus headers, and user level includes are user level
Linus includes. Matthias Ulrich did that partly because I've asked
Linus him to, but mainly just because it is no longer possible to try
Linus to synchronize the libc and the kernel the way it used to
Linus be. The symlinks have been a bad idea for at least a year now,
Linus and the problem is just how to get rid of them
Linus gracefully. Personally, I'm counting on glibc, which we are
Linus already using on alpha.

Linus Just to give you some idea of exactly why the includes really
Linus can't be handled by simple symlinks: the main problem is
Linus version skew. Lots of people want to upgrade their library
Linus without affecting the kernel, and probably even more people
Linus want to be able to upgrade their kernel without affecting their
Linus compilation environment. Right now doing that has been
Linus extremely fragile.

Linus Just to give _one_ example of why the symlinks are bad: NR_OPEN
Linus and fd_set. I have had no end of problems making NR_OPEN
Linus larger in the kernel, exactly _because_ of the damn
Linus sym-links. If I just make NR_OPEN larger (the right thing to
Linus do), the problem is that people with old libraries will now
Linus compile against a header file that doesn't match the library
Linus any more. And when the library internally uses another NR_OPEN
Linus than the new program does, interesting things happen.

Linus In contrast, with separate header files, this doesn't make any
Linus difference.  If I change NR_OPEN in the kernel, the compilation
Linus environment won't notice UNTIL the library and associated
Linus header files are changed: thus the user will contine to compile
Linus with the old values, but because we'll still be binary
Linus compatible, the worst thing that happens is that new programs
Linus won't take advantage of new features unless the developer has
Linus upgraded his library. Compare that to breaking subtly.

Linus NR_OPEN is just _one_ example, and actually it's one of the
Linus easier ones to handle (because the only thing that really makes
Linus much of a difference when it comes to NR_OPEN is the fd_set
Linus size - but it certainly bit some 

dSELECT

1997-05-16 Thread Peter Ginsberg


Ill start this off with the usual caveats, Im new to linux in general,
as well as debian. My problems, however, seem to be with the dselect
program. I have read the minimal help pages within dselect, as well
as the linux install faqs and the (frankly next-to-useless) dselect
beginner file. I also checked the debian-user archives, and while I found
a lot
of problems with dselect, none of the solutions fixed mine.

The system Im using: (Im pretty sure this is irrelevent)-
TI TM6020 notebook, P120, 8 Mgs, Active Color,...

I installed the base off of dos disks and everything went very, very
smoothly (For some reason, I thought that was going to be the
hard part, guess not).  

As for the packages, I decided that it would be easiest for me to d/l
the important stuff, or at least as much as I could, and install from a
zip disk. I didnt have a problem getting dselect to read the zip disks
nor the packages contained therein. In fact, many of the packages
installed
smoothly. Some of them, however, did not. Most of my problems were with
xwindows files, Ill try to boil this down to some questions.

1. When installing I got pre-dependency and other dependency errors...
shouldnt dselect have told me about these _before_ it started installing?
This isnt exactly intuitive (nor is it in any help files Ive seen). Before
you
respond with the obvious, yes, all of the files which I had selected,
were, in
fact, on the zip disk. Why isnt dselect showing ALL the dependencies?

2.The files that wouldnt install were man manpages groff as well
as a host of x files including xbase (kinda important) and all the
servers.
Whats worse, when I went in and tried to remove all these broken files,
dselect got rid of most, but for the x servers was giving me the message

xserver-svga is in an extremely inconsistent state -- you should reinstall
before removing.  

Well, thats some circular logic worthy of Microsoft, I need to reinstall
the package I cant install so I can remove it?

3. The main hang up for dselect seemed to be configuration files
of one sort or another, it failed, for some reason, to create the config
files for x, which lead to a whole host of other errors, and eventually
to the installation process being halted.


My apologies for not providing more specific information, if
there isnt any easy answer to my problems (which Im guessing
is the case), can anyone at least recommend/point me to a file
which sorts packages in a more sensible order? (The required/
imortant/optional/extra is sort of vague). In other words, if you
want a basic xwindows system these packages are vital... these
may be needed... these are nice to have... _and_, more importantly
has the actual dependencies of the packages and what order (if any)
they need to be installed in?

Thanks for any help/advice/pointers. I know its frustrating dealing
with newbies, just remember its frustrating being one too.

_Peter

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Re: how to safely install libc6

1997-05-16 Thread Ed Donovan
Here's a slightly old thread I'm continuing; I'm very curious how people
are dealing with this.  I usually follow 'unstable,' in part because it
largely is quite stable.  I hold off on things that look like more
trouble, like libc6.  Much advice recommends not using it yet on
important systems.  I tried to avoid it, but fell for ldso 1.9.2, not
realizing it (apparently) commits me to the libc6 development
environment.  I have not installed libc6 yet, and right now my compiles
fail.  All the binaries generated give No such file or directory
errors, because they can't link, I believe.  I hesitate to go ahead and
install the libc6 packages, though, if things might become more
unstable.  I'd like to build a new kernel at the moment, and wouldn't
want to do so with a C library that wasn't ready for prime time.

I tried downgrading ldso to ldso_1.8.10-2.  That didn't work at all;
when dpkg finished my linker was blown out, and I had to go to the
rescue disk.  I'm not sure how the new environment should look; what
packages I'll need, and if they're all in place yet; the 'altdev'
packages are continuing to appear.  Are people compiling stable binaries
 kernels with libc6, or with it installed but using the altdev-libc5
stuff?  

If everyone were as uncertain as I am, I think I'd be seeing more
discussion on the topic, so maybe I'm up a tree somewhere :-) But I'd
love some opinions on whether, with libc6, we're getting much more
'unstable' than we usually are.

Thanks all, loving Debian as always,


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how get smail to have a default domainname?

1997-05-16 Thread Terrence M. Brannon

I want smail to send mail with a default domainname of usc.edu but
putting the line 

domains=usc.edu

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Re: missed cron jobs

1997-05-16 Thread A. M. Varon
On Thu, 15 May 1997, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:

 This morning I worked on my home debian system at a very early time
 (for me, that is), from 6:30 a.m on.  All of a sudden my hard disk
 begins to crackle, opening a new window takes longer than normal (I
 have a lowly 486DX100), and after starting top I see that `nobody' is

--snipped to save bandwidth

It's not actually harmful. Debian runs a cron job daily, at around 6:42
a.m. and one of the invoked is a find script. This script grinds your
harddisk for all files in your harddisk and puts it in a file called
locatedb. Very useful if you use the program locate a lot (like me.).

 I think a lot of people using linux at home don't leave their computer
 switched on continuously.  Has anyone ever thought of a system that
 would spot missed cron events and run them at a later time?  Would this
 be useful at all?

none that i can think of. But you can reschedule your cronjobs at a time
where you usually use your computer.

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Re: LINUX SUPPORT FOR CABLE-MODEMS?

1997-05-16 Thread Paul Wade
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote:

 
 Hi all.
 
 A cable modem has just been installed on my computer, and I would
 like to use it under Linux:
 
 1)  The card that was installed on my computer is a 10base-T (twisted pair)
 ethernet card -- Intel 82557-based PCI Ethernet card.  Does the Linux kernel
 currently have a driver for this card?  On a fresh install of Debian, I did
 not see a driver for this card listed in the driver configuration portion of
 the install ...
 
 2)  The cable-modem hookup supports dynamic IP-address assignment (though
 I'm supposed to get the same IP address each time the modem powers on).
 Is there a way to get the Linux ethernet support to read its IP address,
 say, at boot time?

The question is: Is the cable modem using standard ethernet. Sometimes
Intel chipsets are used in nonstandard ways, such as reduced clock rates.

This is what I can tell you about Ethernet compatibility. I can boot a
given machine to Linux, win3.x, or w95 and use TCP/IP over Ethernet. With
all 3 operating systems I can access the internet via another Linux box
which has a modem and is configured to serve as a gateway/router or
expensive Cisco routers with T-1 bandwidth. In both win3.x and win95 the
standard Microsoft drivers are used.

So if the cable modem is usable with standard Microsoft drivers, it will
probably work with Linux. If there is no Linux driver for the card, try a
card that is widely supported. I paid $18 for new ethernet cards last
year.

If you always get the same IP address, then it is static. Write it down
and use it as your machine IP for Linux.

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mouse

1997-05-16 Thread Mark Bathie
Just a simple question. How do i instally my mouse for use with debian 
X11. Please don't RTFM.
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Re: mouse

1997-05-16 Thread Paul Wade
On Fri, 16 May 1997, Mark Bathie wrote:

 Just a simple question. How do i instally my mouse for use with debian 
 X11. Please don't RTFM.
 Thanx.

If it's a serial port mouse install the gpm package first. If that works
then configure X11 for your system.

Just a simple question. What does RTFM mean? I lost my code book.

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Re: how to safely install libc6

1997-05-16 Thread Craig Sanders

Caution: Don't take any of the following as 'the truth'. it's mostly
guesses i've made from reading docs and from experimenting on my
systems.

On 15 May 1997, Ed Donovan wrote:

 Here's a slightly old thread I'm continuing; I'm very curious how
 people are dealing with this. I usually follow 'unstable,' in part
 because it largely is quite stable. I hold off on things that look
 like more trouble, like libc6. Much advice recommends not using it yet
 on important systems. I tried to avoid it, but fell for ldso 1.9.2,
 not realizing it (apparently) commits me to the libc6 development
 environment.

I don't think that's the case. ldso doesn't depend on either libc5-dev
or libc6-dev. According to the notes in /usr/doc/ld.so the only major
incompatibility is with a.out (libc4) programs. My reading of the notes
indicates that it cant even run a.out binaries any more, but i might
have misread that.

 I have not installed libc6 yet, and right now my compiles fail. All
 the binaries generated give No such file or directory errors,
 because they can't link, I believe. I hesitate to go ahead and install
 the libc6 packages, though, if things might become more unstable. I'd
 like to build a new kernel at the moment, and wouldn't want to do so
 with a C library that wasn't ready for prime time.

it's safe to have the shared libraries for libc6 and libc5 installed
at the same time, just as it was safe to have both libc4 and libc5
installed. It only gets complicated when you want to do development for
both libc5 and libc6 on the same machine.

suggestion:

install libc6, libc5, libc5-dev (and other libc5 development stuff(*)),
and ldso-1.9.2.

don't install libc6-dev (or related stuff) or the altdev-libc5 stuff.
You'll have to either install stuff manually with dpkg or put quite a
few packages on HOLD status with dselect.

Doing this will give you a system capabale of developing for libc5, and
also capable of running libc6 programs.


Alternatively, a libc6 development system which can also run libc5
programs.  Or if you have two debian boxes make one of each.

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be libc6 compatible versions of
ncurses-dev and other important dev packages yet...maybe they just
haven't arrived on my mirror...maybe the intention is that altdev-libc5
provides libc5-dev to satisfy ncurses-dev's dependancy.


(*) 'stuff (noun): highly technical term meaning thingies' :-)

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Re: LINUX SUPPORT FOR CABLE-MODEMS?

1997-05-16 Thread Jim
Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 A cable modem has just been installed on my computer, and I would
 like to use it under Linux:
 
 1)  The card that was installed on my computer is a 10base-T (twisted pair)
 ethernet card -- Intel 82557-based PCI Ethernet card.  Does the Linux kernel
 currently have a driver for this card?  On a fresh install of Debian, I did
 not see a driver for this card listed in the driver configuration portion of
 the install ...

What you are describing is the Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+.  This uses
the
eepro loadable module.  HOWEVER, the module which came w/ the 1.2
distribution
is either broken or not up to date.  Find the author of the program,
compile and load according to his instructions and everything should go
fine.  I had this driver working under Red Hat 4.1 before I blew it away
for
not having development tools that work.

If anyone is listening, the eepro module needs to be fixed before 1.3
goes
out or nobody using Comcasts @home network will be able to connect.

\flame on
Speaking of which, Comcast's @home network is NOT linux friendly.
They have deliberately rigged their home page (through which all
requests
and information pass) to only respond to either Macintosh or Windows
versions
of Netscape.  I have informed several executive types that this was an
arbitrary
and unreasonable decision w/ no response.  I plan to configure Mosaic to
spoof their
site.  Mosaic has a feature which allows you to tell a server that you
are a
different client type than you actually are.  I haven't gotten around to
figuring out
the codes yet.  At any rate, if you are with Comcast's @home, don't plan
on seeing the 
actual web site.  Something comes up which says Sorry we can't show you
the actual
speed of our network... because you are using Linux.
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Re: how get smail to have a default domainname?

1997-05-16 Thread George Bonser


uhm ... visible_name=usc.edu

in /etc/smail/config or wherever your config file is

should do it.


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 I want smail to send mail with a default domainname of usc.edu but
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Re: Will ATI 3D Rage chips work with XFree86?

1997-05-16 Thread Michael Tempsch
On 15 May, Rick Macdonald wrote:
Re: R. Chris Ross wrote:
Re:  
Re:   I wondered if the D3 Rage chip set boards would work with
Re:  XFree86.  They are supposed to be quite hot and someone offered to
Re:  trade me a Wincharge for one even up.
Re: 
Re: I have an ATI Graphics Pro Turbo Mach64 (4MB VRAM) in my Pentium 133.
Re: 
Re: The wife needs a PC so she's getting mine I'm getting a P200MMX
Re: with the newer ATI 3D Graphics Pro Turbo (4MB SDRAM, I think), with all
Re: that PC2TV stuff. This has the 3D Rage chip set.
Re: 
Re: I've been assuming that the 3D Rage wasn't supported yet and was going
Re: to keep the old card in the new machine.
Re: 
Re: I don't even know which board is faster. Anybody?
Re: 
Re: Maybe I should grab the new 3D GPT once the chipset is supported in
Re: XFree?

If my memories are correctl then the 3D Rage _is_ supported in XFree 3.2
and the 3D Rage II in XFree 3.2A...

3.2A is not available as a .deb package, but I've seen several reports
of people simply replacing the Mach64 Xserver binary from 3.2 with the
one from 3.2A. Haven't tried this myself, but did do a similar thing
under Slackware last fall (3.1.2-3.1.2F) so it'd seem reasonable...

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Connecting terminals

1997-05-16 Thread Pilon
I need to connect two terminals to my Linux box, I have in my inittab
file:

s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS0 vt100
s2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS1 vt100


The login prompt appears well in my terminals; but when I try to login I
can't do it.

Can someone help me?
#
# inittab   This file describes how the INIT process should set up
#   the system in a certain run-level.
#
# Version:  @(#)inittab 2.0417/05/93MvS
#   2.1002/10/95PV
#
# Author:   Miquel van Smoorenburg, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Modified by:  Patrick J. Volkerding, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# Default runlevel.
id:3:initdefault:

# System initialization (runs when system boots).
si:S:sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.S

# Script to run when going single user (runlevel 1).
su:1S:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.K

# Script to run when going multi user.
rc:23456:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.M

# What to do at the Three Finger Salute.
ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t5 -rfn now

# Runlevel 0 halts the system.
l0:0:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.0

# Runlevel 6 reboots the system.
l6:6:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.6

# What to do when power fails (shutdown to single user).
pf::powerfail:/sbin/shutdown -f +5 THE POWER IS FAILING

# If power is back before shutdown, cancel the running shutdown.
pg:0123456:powerokwait:/sbin/shutdown -c THE POWER IS BACK

# If power comes back in single user mode, return to multi user mode.
ps:S:powerokwait:/sbin/init 5

# The getties in multi user mode on consoles an serial lines.
#
# NOTE NOTE NOTE adjust this to your getty or you will not be
#able to login !!
#
# Note: for 'agetty' you use linespeed, line.
# for 'getty_ps' you use line, linespeed and also use 'gettydefs'
c1:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux
c2:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
c3:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
c4:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
c5:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
c6:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux

# Serial lines
#s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS0 vt100
#s2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS1 vt100

#
# ojo-provisional
#
#s2:456:respawn:/sbin/uugetty 9600 ttyS1 vt100
#


# Dialup lines
#d1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -mt60 38400,19200,9600,2400,1200 ttyS0 vt100
#d2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -mt60 38400,19200,9600,2400,1200 ttyS1 vt100

# Runlevel 4 used to be for an X-window only system, until we discovered
# that it throws init into a loop that keeps your load avg at least 1 all 
# the time. Thus, there is now one getty opened on tty6. Hopefully no one
# will notice. ;^)
# It might not be bad to have one text console anyway, in case something 
# happens to X.
x1:4:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.4

# End of /etc/inittab


Re: missed cron jobs

1997-05-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, May 15, 1997 at 04:38:11PM +0200, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:
 running `find' (it's amazing, isn't it ? :).  I soon realized that this
 was cron running the cron.daily scripts.  I never thought about this
 before, but it may very well have been the first time these scripts
 were run, my computer at home is usually switched off at this time.
 Now comes my question:
 
 Could this be harmful?
 
 I think a lot of people using linux at home don't leave their computer
 switched on continuously.  Has anyone ever thought of a system that
 would spot missed cron events and run them at a later time?  Would this
 be useful at all?

anacron does this very nicely. From memory, when first installed
(it is available for debian) it doesn't actually do anything,
but it is easy enough to move the cron.daily, weekly, monthly
scripts to run from anacron instead of cron; then things
get run once a day only, but definatel (if the PC is used
at all that day).

Very nice.


Hamish
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Re: mouse

1997-05-16 Thread E.L. Meijer (Eric)
 Just a simple question. What does RTFM mean? I lost my code book.

File: jargon.info, Node: RTFM, Next: RTFS, Prev: RTFB, Up: = R =

:RTFM: /R-T-F-M/ /imp./  [Unix] Acronym for `Read The Fucking
   Manual'.  1. Used by {guru}s to brush off questions they
   consider trivial or annoying.  Compare {Don't do that, then!}.
   2. Used when reporting a problem to indicate that you aren't just
   asking out of {randomness}.  No, I can't figure out how to
   interface Unix to my toaster, and yes, I have RTFM.  Unlike
   sense 1, this use is considered polite.  See also {FM},
   {RTFAQ}, {RTFB}, {RTFS}, {RTM}, all of which mutated
   from RTFM, and compare {UTSL}.

More interesting hacker usage can be found in the jargon info file,
which is in its own debian package.  Highly recommended.  A lot of
FAQ-s are found on an ftp-site actually called rtfm.mit.edu.  Also
worth a visit.

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Re: dSELECT

1997-05-16 Thread E.L. Meijer (Eric)
 Ill start this off with the usual caveats, Im new to linux in general,
 as well as debian. My problems, however, seem to be with the dselect
 program. I have read the minimal help pages within dselect, as well
 as the linux install faqs and the (frankly next-to-useless) dselect
 beginner file. I also checked the debian-user archives, and while I found
 a lot
 of problems with dselect, none of the solutions fixed mine.
 
 The system Im using: (Im pretty sure this is irrelevent)-
 TI TM6020 notebook, P120, 8 Mgs, Active Color,...
 
 I installed the base off of dos disks and everything went very, very
 smoothly (For some reason, I thought that was going to be the
 hard part, guess not).  
 
 As for the packages, I decided that it would be easiest for me to d/l
 the important stuff, or at least as much as I could, and install from a
 zip disk. I didnt have a problem getting dselect to read the zip disks
 nor the packages contained therein. In fact, many of the packages
 installed
 smoothly. Some of them, however, did not. Most of my problems were with
 xwindows files, Ill try to boil this down to some questions.
 
 1. When installing I got pre-dependency and other dependency errors...
 shouldnt dselect have told me about these _before_ it started installing?
 This isnt exactly intuitive (nor is it in any help files Ive seen). Before
 you
 respond with the obvious, yes, all of the files which I had selected,
 were, in
 fact, on the zip disk. Why isnt dselect showing ALL the dependencies?

Dselect does show all the dependencies.  The problem is that dselect
isn't installing packages in the right order automatically.  A successor
to dselect is in the works that will do better in this respect: the
deity project.

It is possible to change the order of installation in dsleect, but I
never got around to understanding how to do that, or even to understand
from within dselect what the order should be.

My manual approach is the following.  I start by picking an important
package I need, try to install that manually using
dpkg --install file name of package
This fails.  In the error message I can see on what other packages this
package predepends.  Then I try to install these packages again using
dpkg --install ...  Usually I have some luck that certain packages
install.  Sometimes conflicting packages have to be removed using dpkg
--purge.  If I succeed to install the particular package I picked, I go
back to dselect, select the other packages, and see if it will work this
time.  If you have all the files you need, usually one or two cycles
will do most of the trick.  Packages you will want to install are in
stable/binary and stable/binary-all.  The files called `Packages.gz'
contain the information which file names correspond to what package.
Note that some packages are provided by others.  This information is
also in the Packages.gz files.

I agree this is not what you would call `painless package
instalation/upgrade', so all moral support (maybe more) should go to
the deity project.  On the other hand, writing an extension to dselect
to properly sort the packages should be a smaller project than deity is,
and would be very welcome indeed.  Procedures like I described above are
probably a bit too much for unix newbies, and we shouldn't scare
beginners away from Debian IMO.

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DEC vt420

1997-05-16 Thread Adrian Bridgett
 hello,
 
 I am wanting to use a DEC vt420 terminal with my linux box, what is the
 best way to connect the terminal to linux?
 
 thanks
 Syd

You need to use a null modem cable. Try using the screen program if you
have problems. To change some of the settings, press F3 on the DEC.

HTH

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ELF header message with modutils 2.1.34

1997-05-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I just upgraded to modutils 2.1.34, hoping it would correctly
analyze the dependencies of my /lib/modules/misc directory (for example);
instead depmod -a gives me 

modprobe: error reading ELF header: No such file or directory

if the misc directory (from the kernel version, ie
path[misc]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`

is included in conf.modules.

Using 2.0.30.


thanks,
Hamish

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Re: LINUX SUPPORT FOR CABLE-MODEMS?

1997-05-16 Thread Ron Welch
I am fortunate enough recently become a subscriber to Time-Warner's
RoadRunner Cable modem service. I have not actually gotten around
to setting things up to work with Linux yet, but I have been looking
into what it would take to do it, and here is what I believe to be
true so far.

RoadRunner, in my area at least, uses DHCP to assign IP addresses.
So, while the chances are quite good that the address assigned
to you me remain fairly constant there is no, garauntee that it will
be completley static due to DHCP's lease times. At any rate, DHCP
client support will be need under Linux to get an IP address
dynamically assigned.

My RoadRunner service also uses Kerberos for authentication. So
Kerberos support in Linux is needed for negotiation of passwords
and such.

I believe both of these peices to the puzzle exist under Debian.
Please correct me if I am wong. As soon as I get some spare time
get my cable modem to work under Linux because even under Windoze,
it is **FAST**

Hope this helps...

Ron

Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 A cable modem has just been installed on my computer, and I would
 like to use it under Linux:
 
 1)  The card that was installed on my computer is a 10base-T (twisted pair)
 ethernet card -- Intel 82557-based PCI Ethernet card.  Does the Linux kernel
 currently have a driver for this card?  On a fresh install of Debian, I did
 not see a driver for this card listed in the driver configuration portion of
 the install ...
 
 2)  The cable-modem hookup supports dynamic IP-address assignment (though
 I'm supposed to get the same IP address each time the modem powers on).
 Is there a way to get the Linux ethernet support to read its IP address,
 say, at boot time?
 
 Thanks (very much) in advance for any info. :-)
 
 -- Harmon
 
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Re: Connecting terminals

1997-05-16 Thread Paul Wade
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Pilon wrote:

 I need to connect two terminals to my Linux box, I have in my inittab
 file:
 
 s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS0 vt100
 s2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS1 vt100
 
 
 The login prompt appears well in my terminals; but when I try to login I
 can't do it.
 
 Can someone help me?

Looks like the cable or terminal options are not proper for hardware flow
control. The following works for my HP 200LX palmtop with a wireless
infrared link. This is necessary because the host does not get carrier
detect from the port.

s2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L 19200 ttyS1 vt100

If that works, then you may want to find an RS-232 breakout box and use
the status lights and jumpers to nail down the proper cable pinout. In the
olden days, I couldn't be caught without one. There were so many
variations between serial devices and host ports. 

You may be able to run fine with the -L option if your terminal has
adequate buffer memory or you drop the baud rate.

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Re: Connecting terminals

1997-05-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Pilon wrote:

 I need to connect two terminals to my Linux box, I have in my inittab
 file:
 
 s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS0 vt100
 s2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS1 vt100
 
 
 The login prompt appears well in my terminals; but when I try to login I
 can't do it.

What, exactly, happens?

 
 Can someone help me?

One possible suggestion (I had this problem) if you can, change the number
of stop bits the terminal is expecting from 2 to 1. The login program
resets the stop bits from 2 down to 1 when it takes the line from getty.
This is a reported bug in login. The terminals I was using could only deal
with 2 stop bits, so I had to add some stuff in /etc/profile to check for
the serial port in question and then issue an 'stty cstopb' to put the
stop bits back to 2. I also set row and col so that joe and lynx would
function properly. Ae has some problems with the arrow keys as well as
others I don't remember. With this settup I still got a garbage password
prompt, but could log in anyway and after entering the password, the
output from the host was again readable.

This area still needs some work, so keep us informed of your progress.

Luck,

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Re: mouse

1997-05-16 Thread Paul Wade
On Fri, 16 May 1997, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:

  Just a simple question. What does RTFM mean? I lost my code book.
 
 File: jargon.info, Node: RTFM, Next: RTFS, Prev: RTFB, Up: = R =
 
 :RTFM: /R-T-F-M/ /imp./  [Unix] Acronym for `Read The Fucking
Manual'.  1. Used by {guru}s to brush off questions they
consider trivial or annoying.  Compare {Don't do that, then!}.
2. Used when reporting a problem to indicate that you aren't just
asking out of {randomness}.  No, I can't figure out how to
interface Unix to my toaster, and yes, I have RTFM.  Unlike
sense 1, this use is considered polite.  See also {FM},
{RTFAQ}, {RTFB}, {RTFS}, {RTM}, all of which mutated
from RTFM, and compare {UTSL}.
 
 More interesting hacker usage can be found in the jargon info file,
 which is in its own debian package.  Highly recommended.  A lot of
 FAQ-s are found on an ftp-site actually called rtfm.mit.edu.  Also
 worth a visit.

This helps, but leads me to wonder: I have an IBM keyboard and it has a
row of keys labeled F1F12?

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filerunner broken?

1997-05-16 Thread Johann Spies
I installed filerunner_2.2.1-1.deb from /contrib (I think it was from
hamm) and when I run it, the following error message comes up :

can't read version: no such variable
while executing
if {$glob(version) != $version} {
About
if {$version != 0.0} {
  ViewText $glob(lib_fr)/HISTORY
}
set r [catch {
  set fid [ ...
(procedure ShowRev line 7)
invoked from within
ShowRev
(file /usr/bin/X11/fr line 3054)


Did anybody have success with filerunner?

Johann.


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emacs in python-mode?

1997-05-16 Thread Johann Spies
I installed python.  Although the documentation refers to emacs in
python-mode, I could not get my emacs to see the python-el file (I also
installed python-elisp_1.4.0-4.deb.

Can somebody help please?

Johann.


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QDDB on Debian?

1997-05-16 Thread Johann Spies
Is there somebody who can help me configuring qddb to run on Debian Linux?

Johann.


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Need Help with Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO90

1997-05-16 Thread Steve Martin
rick wrote:
Help:

I have a new gw2k PP200 system with a (gw2k) Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO90
(PnP) sound card. What do I need to do to configure my kernel to support
this card? I am using the 2.0.30 kernel pkg.

Do I need to use isapnptools, (if so how)?

Looking at the bios setup it looks like PnP configuration is setup to be
configured by OS software (win95), but there is another option that cam
be selected. I do not want to make any changes that will break the sound
support under win95 as I sometimes am forced to use it.


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Re: Colorado Parallel port tape

1997-05-16 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Stan Brown wrote:
 
 How can I use a HP/Coloroda rape drive that connets to the parallel
 port with my Deboan system?
 

From the Ftape HOWTO 

  ftape-HOWTO
  Kevin Johnson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  v1.9, 20 September 1996 for ftape-2.08

  [ SNIP ]

  5.3.  Un-supported tape drives

  ·  All drives that connect to the parallel port (eg: Colorado Trakker)

  ·  Irwin AX250L / Accutrak 250. (not a QIC-80 drive)


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Location of sc spreadsheet

1997-05-16 Thread Brian White
Does anybody know if the sc spreadsheet is available for Debian?  I
cannot find it anywhere.

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Re: mouse

1997-05-16 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Mark Bathie wrote:
 
 Just a simple question. How do i instally my mouse for use with debian 
 X11. Please don't RTFM.
 Thanx.
 

We can help. However

flame
I am constantly amazed that people come asking questions about how
they can get X to work without supplying any specific information.
My simple answer to to your simple question: put the proper lines
in the X server configuration file. Just as this answer is meaningless
and unhelpful to you, your question is meaningless and unhelpful
to someone who might try to help you without detailed information.
/flame

Anyway. First we need to know what kind of mouse you have. Does it
connect through the serial port? through your ATI video card?
through a MS Busmouse card? througe a little 9-pin round connector
next to your keyboard connector?

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Re: Need Help with Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO90

1997-05-16 Thread R. Brock Lynn
You are in luck 2day! I have an Ensoniq Soundscape ViVo90 PnP card, with
a Debian Linux 1.2 system. Kernel 2.0.29. I have gotten everything
except for midi to work. I just played around until I got it right, or
partially so. (because the sound doc's said the Soundscape card I had
was not yet supported.) I did have to use isapnptools to initialize the
card. (I am going by memory here, if ya want me to dig through the
details to be sure, or maybe we can both do more to make my midi work
too... contact me by private email: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

I got the isapnptools debian package, from somewhere, then put it in the
place where unknown packages go for the ftp install feature of debian.
then ran package manager, and finally got isapnptools installed. then i
ran somthing or other from the pnptools to generate the pnptools config
file, which lists every possibility of settings for all your pnp cards.
Luckily I only have 2 sound card and modem. (and my modem obviously
works perfectly !!! :)) The modem also is one of the new kind that
sounds thru sound card instead of it's own buzzer, and after the
pnptoolz fix, I could finally hear the modem dial! b4, it would dial,
but I couldn't hear it.) 

Ok next you gotta go through the generated config file and uncomment the
lines that contain the settings that you want to use. I also run Win95,
so I let it do all the work of dealing out the irq's and such. I then
went into the hardware profile and made notes on which cards had what
irq, dma, io, etc. then went back in Linux, edited the isapnptools
config file accordingly to uncomment the correct lines. then I set up
the isapnptools to run at startup by doing something to one of the
/etc/rc.d directories. You're smart, you werk at Cray, you can do it!!!
:P

Oh someone also told me i had to do extra initialization with a short
proggie called
ssinit.c with a flash rom file, but I never could get the damned thing
to work.
Probably didn't have the right rom file. So I've never fooled with it
again.
I can hear my Modem dial thru speakers, Au's playing from the web and
even WAV files, so something is working. By Grace from Linus maybe.

And don't FUCK with the BIOS setup, except to turn off SHADOW RAM, Linux
does a better job of totally reworking the BIOS code anyway, so why
shadow substandard code when U can replace it ALTOGHTHER! =) You can
Leave the Plug and Play OS setting to YES it seems to werk fer me!!

Oh yeah, next month (June 7th and 8th) is Atlanta Linux Showcase '97. Be
there or be uncool. Linus is gonna give a talk about the innards of the
kernel. and Maddog from DEC gonna talk too about the Alpha port. And one
of the Sparc porters will be there too. (Miguel de Icaza - also gave us
Midnight Commander) check it out here:
http://www.ale.org/showcase/ I'm gonna be there R U :))


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Steve Martin wrote:
 
 rick wrote:
 Help:
 
 I have a new gw2k PP200 system with a (gw2k) Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO90
 (PnP) sound card. What do I need to do to configure my kernel to support
 this card? I am using the 2.0.30 kernel pkg.
 
 Do I need to use isapnptools, (if so how)?
 
 Looking at the bios setup it looks like PnP configuration is setup to be
 configured by OS software (win95), but there is another option that cam
 be selected. I do not want to make any changes that will break the sound
 support under win95 as I sometimes am forced to use it.
 
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Re: dSELECT

1997-05-16 Thread Rick Jones
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Peter Ginsberg wrote:

 As for the packages, I decided that it would be easiest for me to d/l
 the important stuff, or at least as much as I could, and install from a
 zip disk. I didnt have a problem getting dselect to read the zip disks
 nor the packages contained therein. In fact, many of the packages
 installed
 smoothly. Some of them, however, did not. Most of my problems were with
 xwindows files, Ill try to boil this down to some questions.

dselect will do the down loading for you.  Which would be the easiest way
to insure that what is needed is actually retrieved instead of ftping
files by hand and using dselect to install from local hard drive.

You will undoubtedly hear suggestion for using dpkg with a bunch of
(probably varying) arg's to acomplish this.  Some people run into one
problem as you have and go to the command line use od dpkg to solve thier
problems.  Sometimes that is needed.  It isn't in your case.  

All but the strange error about the xserver are common.  All you have to
do is go through the install process more than once.  It will install
things gradually until everything is installed.  Takes maybe 2 extra
rounds in install.

Why anybody would think it best to tell a new comer to resort to command
line use is beyond me.  That opens a whole new can of worms.  I wish you
people would answer a dselect question with a dselect answer not a dpkg
answer unless that is the only alternative.

If a person is familiar enough with linux to run dpkg with args to
acomplish what dselect does anyway.  They are good enough to look in the
man pages and doc's on dselect and that would lead them to dpkg which they
could read up on and get it done on their own.  If that's the way they
want to do it.  By telling a person to use dpkg you are just saying that
I don't know how to do that with dselect, you should be using dpkg
anyway, come over to the dark side Luke, use dpkg...  The person is
asking about dselect, not dpkg.

If I ask a sendmail question on the list I don't expect a use smail and
do this... answer unless that is the only way to get it done.


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Re: dSELECT

1997-05-16 Thread Rick Jones
On Fri, 16 May 1997, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:
snip
 Dselect does show all the dependencies.  The problem is that dselect
 isn't installing packages in the right order automatically.  A successor
 to dselect is in the works that will do better in this respect: the
 deity project.

So.  The answer would be to recycle the install step a couple of time and
dselect will get the job done.

snip
 My manual approach is the following.  I start by picking an important
 package I need, try to install that manually using
 dpkg --install file name of package
 This fails.  In the error message I can see on what other packages this
 package predepends.  Then I try to install these packages again using
 dpkg --install ...  Usually I have some luck that certain packages
 install.  Sometimes conflicting packages have to be removed using dpkg
 --purge.  If I succeed to install the particular package I picked, I go
 back to dselect, select the other packages, and see if it will work this
 time.  If you have all the files you need, usually one or two cycles
 will do most of the trick.  Packages you will want to install are in
 stable/binary and stable/binary-all.  The files called `Packages.gz'
 contain the information which file names correspond to what package.
 Note that some packages are provided by others.  This information is
 also in the Packages.gz files.
snip
 and would be very welcome indeed.  Procedures like I described above are
 probably a bit too much for unix newbies, and we shouldn't scare
 beginners away from Debian IMO.

I agree.  So what was the reason for posting this?  This guy said he IS a
new comer, why did you post this?  I suspect he's more clued in than most
new comers.  But what about a clueless new comer?  He wouldn't have any
idea what you just told him to do.  All that needed to be said was to
recycle through the install step.  

Sorry to bit*h about this, but it's almost every day that a new comer asks
about dselect and dependancies.  There are always dpkg answers that aren't
needed to answer the question.  The goal is to make the transition to
linux and Debian in particular as easy as possible for new comers.
Confusing them with strings of dpkg commands when dselect fails to do
something defeats the purpose.  A new comer doesn't even know what dpkg
is.


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Re: Need Help with Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO90

1997-05-16 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Steve Martin wrote:
 
 rick wrote:
 Help:
 
 I have a new gw2k PP200 system with a (gw2k) Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO90
 (PnP) sound card. What do I need to do to configure my kernel to support
 this card? I am using the 2.0.30 kernel pkg.
 
 Do I need to use isapnptools, (if so how)?
 
 Looking at the bios setup it looks like PnP configuration is setup to be
 configured by OS software (win95), but there is another option that cam
 be selected. I do not want to make any changes that will break the sound
 support under win95 as I sometimes am forced to use it.
 

I have the exact same card. In my setup, my BIOS is also PNP aware,
and actually the BIOS sets up the card. All I had to do was look
at the device resources in Win95 to find out what IRQs, IO, and such
were in use, and then set the parameters in my kernel config (I
don't use a loadable module). There's support for the Enson. soundscape.
Works like a charm.

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Re: Colorado Parallel port tape

1997-05-16 Thread Nathan E Norman
Take the case apart - there's an internal tape drive, power
supply, and floppy controller in the case.  Remove the internal drive
and install it in your system ... viola!  A usable tape drive.

This isn't what you wanted?  Well, that's life in the world of MS
specific hardware.  I have a T-1000e so I have gone through all of this
BS.

Actually, the reason you can't use the external is because of that
floppy interface in the case ... the parallel port serves as a link to
that interface.  I don't know if it uses a proprietary protocol or if
it's just a bear to implement, but no-one's done it under Linux that I
know of.

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On Fri, 16 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

:Stan Brown wrote:
: 
: How can I use a HP/Coloroda rape drive that connets to the parallel
: port with my Deboan system?
: 
:
:From the Ftape HOWTO 
:
:  ftape-HOWTO
:  Kevin Johnson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  v1.9, 20 September 1996 for ftape-2.08
:
:  [ SNIP ]
:
:  5.3.  Un-supported tape drives
:
:  ·  All drives that connect to the parallel port (eg: Colorado Trakker)
:
:  ·  Irwin AX250L / Accutrak 250. (not a QIC-80 drive)
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Re: mouse

1997-05-16 Thread Nathan E Norman
Mark Bathie wrote:
 
 Just a simple question. How do i instally my mouse for use with debian 
 X11. Please don't RTFM.
 Thanx.
 

Ok, I won't RTFM.  You probably ought to, however.

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Re: how to safely install libc6

1997-05-16 Thread Rick Jones

Caution:  Some of this stuff is guestimating the libc6 changes.

On Fri, 16 May 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:

 On 15 May 1997, Ed Donovan wrote:
 
  I have not installed libc6 yet, and right now my compiles fail. All
  the binaries generated give No such file or directory errors,
  because they can't link, I believe. I hesitate to go ahead and install
  the libc6 packages, though, if things might become more unstable. I'd
  like to build a new kernel at the moment, and wouldn't want to do so
  with a C library that wasn't ready for prime time.

ld.so has nothing to do with compiling.  I suspect the problem here is
either the -L /usr/lib type entries in the Makefile are wrong for
library search path for the compilers ld linker (not ld.so) or the
software you are trying to compile has been developed with libc6 in mind
or you have the new compiler which may have default changes to libc6
linking instead of libc5. 

Since libc6 is going to be the standard very shortly, it's very possible
that you are compilling libc6 dependant code.  Correct me if I'm wrong,
but isn't hamm supposed to be mostly, if not all, libc6 software?

 it's safe to have the shared libraries for libc6 and libc5 installed
 at the same time, just as it was safe to have both libc4 and libc5
 installed. It only gets complicated when you want to do development for
 both libc5 and libc6 on the same machine.

I believe that installing hamm (unstable) would insure that the 2
development environments are seperate but equally accessable, since it is
the intermediate release between libc5 and libc6 standards.

I also suspect that libc5 and libc6, like a.out and ELF, will be
co-existing on systems for some time before libc5 is finally completely
phased out.

Bottom line:

Check your Makfiles and gcc/ld man pages for references to libc6 changes.


--Rick

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More diald woes!!!!!

1997-05-16 Thread Ben White
Hello all,

Thanks to those of you who responded to my last desperate cry for help.  
I am one step closer in getting my setup working.  Currently I use a 
Slackware distribution with kernel 1.2.13, but want to upgrade to Debian 
to avoid the commercial distributions, and because of its sophisticated 
package management.  Because of my specific requirements I must have 
demand dialing ppp connectivity (which I have working with 1.2.13 
slackware).  Here is my current state of affairs:


0) I am using Debian 1.2, kernel 2.0.27 (or close to that

1) can connect with commandline invocation of pppd

2) diald installed, and tries to bring up the link appropriately

3) chat dials and logs in, pppd is started

4) from modem lights the remote is sending packets and pppd is
   not responding

5) after 20 sec diald times out pppd and kills it

6) the ppp.log file then prints

May 14 00:30:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal diald[387]: pppd startup timed out. Check your p
ppd options. Killing pppd.
May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: Terminating on signal 2.
May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: Failed to open /dev/ttyS1: Interrupte
d system call
May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: Exit.
May 14 00:31:14 whitehouselocal diald[387]: Delaying 10 seconds before clear to
dial.
May 14 00:32:38 whitehouselocal diald[387]: SIGTERM. Termination request receive
d.

This output is with a /etc/ppp/options file that contains only debug.

I have read the discussions of /dev/cua* v. /dev/ttyS* and am using ttyS1.

So here I am.  My setup requires a demand-dialing system as my linux box 
provides internet access for several other computers connected to a local 
ethernet.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Ben
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Re: Bug#9826: lprng: lprng: wrong paths in /usr/sbin/lpd

1997-05-16 Thread Rick Jones
On Fri, 16 May 1997, Mirek Kwasniak wrote:

 I have very busy server and cann't it restart until last night.
 Problem that I found is more general.
 I think, Debian distribution should be able upgrade running system without
 complete rebooting.

Are you saying that there is no way for you to restart lprng without
rebooting?

The only changes you can make to a system that require a reboot are kernel
changes.

I can shutdown every daemon on my system and restart them again using the
proper SIG's and kill.  For the most part init 1 and back restarts
everything too.

The rest of this lengthy report is null and void since joost pointed out
that the bug was fixed.  Just get the new package.


--Rick

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Re: Colorado Parallel port tape

1997-05-16 Thread Rick Macdonald
Nathan E Norman wrote:
 
 Take the case apart - there's an internal tape drive, power
 supply, and floppy controller in the case.  Remove the internal drive
 and install it in your system ... viola!  A usable tape drive.

I knew that the Trakker had a Jumbo inside, but I didn't know this 
was possible! I'll have to try it someday.

 This isn't what you wanted?  Well, that's life in the world of MS
 specific hardware. 

No, you can't blame this one on MS.

 Actually, the reason you can't use the external is because of that
 floppy interface in the case ... the parallel port serves as a link to
 that interface.  I don't know if it uses a proprietary protocol or if
 it's just a bear to implement, but no-one's done it under Linux that I
 know of.

There's an ASIC in the case that has a proprietary interface.

A few years ago I finally tracked down somebody at HP that 
knew what the situation was. They had me sign a non-disclosure agreement
and sent me the doc showing how to program the interface.

I had planned to try to cannibalize the ftape driver to make it work
but never got around to it. I couldn't give it to anybody if I had,
though.

Now, with my 6.5GB of disk to back up, the 125MB (uncompressed) tape
capacity is pretty useless anyway. :-( 

Still, I might try installing it internally as you suggested.

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Re: More diald woes!!!!!

1997-05-16 Thread Rick Jones
On Fri, 16 May 1997, Ben White wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 Thanks to those of you who responded to my last desperate cry for help.  
 I am one step closer in getting my setup working.  Currently I use a 
 Slackware distribution with kernel 1.2.13, but want to upgrade to Debian 
 to avoid the commercial distributions, and because of its sophisticated 
 package management.  Because of my specific requirements I must have 
 demand dialing ppp connectivity (which I have working with 1.2.13 
 slackware).  Here is my current state of affairs:
 
 
   0) I am using Debian 1.2, kernel 2.0.27 (or close to that
 
   1) can connect with commandline invocation of pppd

Would this be pon or pppd connect etc?

 
   2) diald installed, and tries to bring up the link appropriately
 
   3) chat dials and logs in, pppd is started
 
   4) from modem lights the remote is sending packets and pppd is
  not responding

What does ifconfig say at this point about ppp0?

 
   5) after 20 sec diald times out pppd and kills it
 
   6) the ppp.log file then prints
 
 May 14 00:30:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
 May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal diald[387]: pppd startup timed out. Check 
 your p
 ppd options. Killing pppd.
 May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: Terminating on signal 2.
 May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: Failed to open /dev/ttyS1: 
 Interrupte
 d system call

This tells me that pppd is trying to gain controle of ttyS1 which is
wrong.  Even though you said that you only have debug in your ppp.options
file you have told pppd to use this tty on the command line or in the
diald options file.

From the diald man page:

  WARNING:  Note  that  some pppd commands
  should  not  be  specified,   not   even   in   the
  /etc/ppp/options  file, because they will interfere
  with the proper operation of diald.  In  particular
  you  should  not  specify  the tty device, the baud
  rate, nor any  of  the  options  crtscts,  xonxoff,
  -crtscts,  defaultroute,  lock,  netmask,  -detach,
  modem, local, mtu and proxyarp.  Use the equivalent
  diald commands to control these pppd settings.

It seems what you have is diald in control of the tty.  It starts pppd and
waits for pppd to start xferring packets with the remote host.  pppd is
waiting to get controle of the tty, because it was told to do so
someplace.  Because pppd seems to be stuck diald kills it and attempts to
redial.

I hope this helps.

L8R,

--Rick

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Linux 2.1.** kernel support for Intel 82557-based ethernet card?

1997-05-16 Thread Harmon Sequoya Nine

Thanks for the response on LINUX SUPPORT FOR CABLE MODEMS?

Apparently, Linux doesn't have a driver for the Intel 82557-based PCI
twisted-pair ethernet card.  It looks as thought this is not the same
as the EtherExpress Pro/10+ because it uses a different chip (the 82557).
Does Linux 2.1.** have such a driver?
   ---

Also, does anyone know what website to check out to get a list
of drivers available for Linux or a list of devices supported
by the 2.1.** kernel?

Thanks.


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Latest rescue disk locks up Thinkpad

1997-05-16 Thread Carpenter, Dean \(MS Mail\)
I tried installing frozen on an IBM Thinkpad 760E last night - no
success.  
The rescue disk would boot, load root.bin then linix.bin? and lock up
after
a bunch of loading dots.  Locked up tight - cold boot time.

Tried adding floppy=thinkpad to the boot line, no joy.  Something in
2.0.30 perhaps ?

I haven't verified it, but I recall that rex (2.0.27?) was able to boot
and install
without any special parameters.

Dean


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UPM Update/Request for Comments

1997-05-16 Thread Gith

Many thanks to all those who provided input and ideas when I originally
announced my very minor project. It's to the point now where some fresh
points of view/ideas would be nice. For those who may be interested,
please check http://users.quicklink.net~/gith/ for the current work done.

Read upm-*/work.of.the.day to find out whats going on and feel free
to send some constuctive criticism, ideas, or creative solutions for
the problems outlined.

Please note that this is not meant to be in competition with the
Deity project or with the excellent ideas Klee has for dpkg so no
flames along those lines. :)

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Willie Daniel
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Re: More diald woes!!!!!

1997-05-16 Thread Michael Harnois
I think I am probably not the only person on earth who has his spam
filter set to catch anything with more than three exclamation points
in the subject.

--
+  Michael D. Harnois  + If you want to follow Jesus,  +
+  Redeemer Lutheran Church, Washburn, IA  + you better look good on wood. +
+  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  + -- Daniel Berrigan+


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How to set up net-acct with ppp?

1997-05-16 Thread John Foster
I've come to an absolute standstill trying to get the net-acct package
to work on our ppp dial-in server. nacctd wants a series of files that
have the mapping from usernames to IPs in them.

The documentation has a couple of little scripts for slip, but I am
using mgetty with ppp, and I cannot see how to get mgetty (or pppd) to
create the user/ip files, let alone remove them when the clients
logout.

I suspect that I'm overlooking something very simple.

All the dialin clients have /bin/false as a shell, and the mgetty/ppp
setup is pretty close to that provided by the debian packages. There
are 32 lines into the server, running through a Comtrol RocketPort
card. There is an IP associated with each rocket port.

I really only care about accounting the data volume each user
generates, as the standard accounting (sac, ac etc) gives the time
component.

John Foster



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