Re: dosemu and OpenDOS

1997-05-19 Thread Gleb Arshinov
 John == jghasler  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

John I just downloaded OpenDOS.  Ironically, it comes in a
John self-extracting archive which requires MSDOS.  No problem,

Alternately, (if you haven't done so already) you may try unzipping
the archive, since you can unzip self extracting zip archives without
running them.  If the archive is not zip base, of course this will not
work.

Gleb


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Re: Customizing environment

1997-05-19 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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 What is the preferred method of customizing the boot-up login environment?
 I guess I could do it by adding lines to /etc/init.d/boot, but wondered if
 there is an official file to add site-customized parameters, things
 like 'setterm -powersave on' for example.

The best way with Debian, since we use the SysV init scheme, is to create
an additional file in /etc/init.d, and then create symlinks in the various
/etc/rc?.d directorys (/usr/sbin/update-rc.d is useful in this regard).
Check out /etc/init.d/README for information on how the system works.

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net-acct and a ppp dial-in server

1997-05-19 Thread John Foster
Hi,

I've been trying to get nacctd to work with a dial-in server.

To get traffic figures per user I need to create lookup files in
/var/run, each one is named with the remote IP and contains the
username of whoever is using that address.

pppd will delete the files after the user has logged off, that's easy,
as ppp has a setting for a command to run on disconnection.

It's creating the files that's driving me crazy.

I tried this script from mgetty instaed of just the call 
to pppd:

#!/bin/bash
/usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login defaultroute proxyarp
whereisuser=`w | grep $1 | tr -s ' ' | cut -d ' ' -f 2 `
addressuser=`grep $whereisuser /etc/hosts | expand | tr -s ' ' | \ 
cut -d ' ' -f 1`
echo $1  /var/run/$addressuser

and the clients can dial-in OK, but the latter part (from wherisuser
on) doesn't get run until the client logs out (ie after pppd dies), so
the greps fail and no file is written. Before the pppd there is no way
of telling who the user is ( Just AutoPPP!).

I need to know how much traffic each user is generating, as I suspect
that some are setting up servers at home that are just a bit illegal
here in sunny Queensland (come to Queensland and turn the clock back
25 years!). 

Surely someone somewhere has got nacctd working with mgetty and ppp
for dynamic IP.

Any suggestions at all are welcome, as I'm starting to really hate
this machine!

John Foster



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Re:mgetty for PPP; Need help

1997-05-19 Thread Butch Kemper
At 06:47 -0500 on 5/15/97, Eugene Sevinian wrote:


 After this point I get the message
 ...S1, too fast respawning mgetty. Suspended for 5 min or something
 like that. And that is all )-;

I had this problem but it went away and the modem operations went much
smoother when I took the modem out of auto-answer mode.  Seems that
mgetty wants to answer the call instead of letting the modem do it.

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May 13 instalation disk's problem (vfat)

1997-05-19 Thread Eugene Sevinian
It was impossible to install debian on my PC due to the fact I put 
distibution on w95 partition while vfat fs support was not done
successfully. I got 2 string warning that it will tak up 1
minite in case that this device is not installed and stoped
forever. Everything was fine in that sense with old Slak instalation from
the same w95 partition.

Is there any idea?

Eugene Sevinian

P.S. Just for curiosity ...
 HOw many people are participating in this mailing list?


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Re: Primary vs. Extended partitions

1997-05-19 Thread Brian N. Borg
The additional calculations would only be during mount of the 
filesystem on the partition.  

I prefer to only use primary partitions because I am always 
messing with them and they are easier to keep track of 
when they are all defined in one place, sector 0,0,0.  

I usually use Norton diskedit to create or change my 
partitions.  I do not trust M$ fdisk it can be brutal.  

In spite of the fact that the M$ fdisk prohibits you from 
creating more than one primary fat partition, and NT warns you 
about it when you do it,I have never had a problem with 
accessing multiple fat primary partitions on the same 
drive using dos 3.3 and up, OS/2, Win95, NT or Linux.

--Brian N. Borg

Eloy A. Paris wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 the docs. in /usr/doc/lilo are very good to understand the concept of
 primary and extended partitions (and the logical partitions contained
 in these extended partitions). However, I would like to know if there
 is any perfomance hit if extended partitions are used instead of
 primary partitions. I guess more calculations are needed to access a
 specific sector in the hard disk in the case of extended partitions.
 
 Any suggestions on which kind of partitions is better?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: net-acct and a ppp dial-in server

1997-05-19 Thread Adam Shand
I've been trying to get nacctd to work with a dial-in server.

To get traffic figures per user I need to create lookup files in
/var/run, each one is named with the remote IP and contains the
username of whoever is using that address.

Unless the code has been patched I wouldn't bother with this.  We went and
set all this up quite a while ago (as far as I know nothing has been added
to this program for *well* over a year though I haven't looked recently)
and found that the code in nacctd was buggy.

I didn't seem to update the mapping between users and the dynamic IP number
so it became all but useless.  If you give out static IP#'s it *should*
work okay but I'm not positive.

You should be able to do everything you want (ie. monitor per user volume)
with ipfwadm installed in the kernel though I'm not sure exactly how.

Adam.


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Re: I have a problem...

1997-05-19 Thread Dima
Hi Gabriele,

although I don't own a cdrom drive with a proprietary interface I think
that the key might be to give the coordinates of the drive (i.e. io
port and interrupt) at boot time.

Unfortunately I lack the knowledge to be more precisely. Perhaps someone
else can shed more light on this!?!

Using a valid Reply-To address also helps: here's a message that's been
sitting in my mail queue for couple of days 
(apologies for sending a long blurb to the list.)

begin bounced message
--
Hi,
did you try sbpcd driver?  -- It should work with your cd-rom I think.
When installation script asks you which kernel modules to load, select
sbpcd module.
You may need to do a few extra things to make it work: 
a) your AWE is a P'n'P card and may need to be configured first, 
b) you need to pass some parameters to sbpcd driver, eg. i/o port and irq. 

I'm attaching the readme for sbpcd module.

Also, quick web search came up with this:
news://it.comp.linux
news://it.comp.linux.setup
http://www.nllgg.nl/lugww/IT.html -- list of Italian Linux User's Groups
  
Hope this helps
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This README belongs to release 4.2 or newer of the SoundBlaster Pro
(Matsushita, Kotobuki, Panasonic, CreativeLabs, Longshine and Teac)
CD-ROM driver for Linux.

sbpcd really, really is NOT for ANY IDE/ATAPI drive!
Not even if you have an original SoundBlaster card with an IDE interface!
So, you better have a look into README.ide if your port address is 0x1F0,
0x170, 0x1E8, 0x168 or similar.
I get tons of mails from IDE/ATAPI drive users - I really can't continue
any more to answer them all. So, if your drive/interface information sheets
mention IDE (primary, secondary, tertiary, quaternary) and the DOS driver
invoking line within your CONFIG.SYS is using an address below 0x230:
DON'T ROB MY LAST NERVE - jumper your interface to address 0x170 and IRQ 15
(that is the secondary IDE configuration), set your drive to master and
use ide-cd as your driver. If you do not have a second IDE hard disk, use the
LILO commands
   hdb=noprobe hdc=cdrom
and get lucky.
To make it fully clear to you: if you mail me about IDE/ATAPI drive problems,
my answer is above, and I simply will discard your mail, hoping to stop the
flood and to find time to lead my 12-years old son towards happy computing.

The driver is able to drive the whole family of traditional AT-style (that
is NOT the new Enhanced IDE or ATAPI drive standard) Matsushita,
Kotobuki, Panasonic drives, sometimes labelled as CreativeLabs. The
well-known drives are CR-521, CR-522, CR-523, CR-562, CR-563.
CR-574 is an IDE/ATAPI drive.

The Longshine LCS-7260 is a double-speed drive which uses the old
Matsushita command set. It is supported - with help by Serge Robyns.
Vertos (Elitegroup Computer Systems, ECS) has a similar drive - support
has started; come in contact if you have such a Vertos 100 or ECS-AT
drive.

There exists an IBM External ISA CD-ROM Drive which in fact is a CR-563
with a special controller board. This drive is supported (the interface is
of the LaserMate type), and it is possibly the best buy today (cheaper than
an internal drive, and you can use it as an internal, too - f.e. plug it into
a soundcard).

CreativeLabs has a new drive CD200 and a similar drive CD200F. The latter
is made by Funai and sometimes named E2550UA, newer models may be named
MK4015. The CD200F drives should fully work.
CD200 drives without F are still giving problems: drive detection and
playing audio should work, data access will result in errors. I need qualified
feedback about the bugs within the data functions or a drive (I never saw a
CD200).

The quad-speed Teac CD-55A drive is supported, but still does not reach full
speed. The data rate already reaches 500 kB/sec if you set SBP_BUFFER_FRAMES
to 64 (it is not recommended to do that for normal file access usage, but it
can speed up things a lot if you use something like dd to read from the
drive; I use it for verifying self-written CDs this way).
The drive itself is able to deliver 600 kB/sec, so this has to get a point of
work; with the normal setup, the performance currently is not even as good as
double-speed.

This driver is NOT for Mitsumi or Sony or Aztech or Philips or XXX drives,
and again: this driver is in no way usable for any IDE/ATAPI drive. If you 
think your drive should work and it doesn't: send me the DOS driver for your
beast (gzipped + uuencoded) and your CONFIG.SYS if you want to ask me for help,
and include an original log message excerpt, and try to give all information
a complete idiot needs to understand your hassle already with your first
mail. And if you want to say as I have mailed you before, be sure that I
don't remember your case by such remarks; at the moment, I have some 
hundreds open correspondences about Linux CDROM questions (hope to reduce if
the IDE/ATAPI user questions disappear). 


This driver will work with the soundcard interfaces (SB Pro, SB 16, Galaxy,

Debian 1.3 Download

1997-05-19 Thread Geir A. Bjune
Yesterday, I tried to download bo from ftp.funet.fi's debian-mirror. As
it turned out, the symlinks were no longer symlinks when I got it down, and
I believe it turned out to be around 800MB. How can I avoid this, when my
ftp-client does not create symlinks when it should ??

What directories should I fetch, so that I do not download more than one
copy of each .deb-package ?

Any help is appreciated.


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Re: May 13 instalation disk's problem (vfat)

1997-05-19 Thread Rick Jones
On Mon, 19 May 1997, Eugene Sevinian wrote:

 It was impossible to install debian on my PC due to the fact I put 
 distibution on w95 partition while vfat fs support was not done
 successfully. I got 2 string warning that it will tak up 1
 minite in case that this device is not installed and stoped
 forever. Everything was fine in that sense with old Slak instalation from
 the same w95 partition.

When you install include vfat.

 
 Is there any idea?
 
 Eugene Sevinian
 
 P.S. Just for curiosity ...
  HOw many people are participating in this mailing list?

Many.

L8R,

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Re: May 13 instalation disk's problem (vfat)

1997-05-19 Thread Eugene Sevinian
  It was impossible to install debian on my PC due to the fact I put 
  distibution on w95 partition while vfat fs support was not done
  successfully. I got 2 string warning that it will tak up 1
  minite in case that this device is not installed and stoped
  forever. Everything was fine in that sense with old Slak instalation from
  the same w95 partition.
 
 When you install include vfat.
 

It hangs when I am trying to do it. Exactly at this point!
Excuse me that it was not clear from my letter ;-(

Eugene Sevinian


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modprobe warning

1997-05-19 Thread G. Kapetanios




Hi,

Today I upgraded the menu package to 1.3-2 . Since then I get every half
minute a
syslogd warning saying that modprobe can't locate the char-major-6 module. 
I have a custom kernel ( 2.0.29 ) and no such module. Anybody can tell me
what is going on ??
 Thanks 
 George 

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Re: Installing TKnet - where to unpack it?

1997-05-19 Thread Sam Ockman
Message from Brent Hutto ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I'm setting up my Debian GNU/Linux system the hard way. By that I mean
 that I'm adding just the packages that I need, one at a time using the
 dpkg tool. It's worked OK for basic stuff like man and the Xwindows
 packages. So far, I like the control this give me over what goes on my
 system. It's a bit time consuming but that's OK.
 
 Now I'm ready to install my first non-package piece of software, TKnet.
 I've downloaded the tknet1_1.tgz file from the TKnet site onto a floppy
 and now I'm ready to install.
 
 Where is the preferred place to install TKnet? There's a directory
 called /usr/local/bin on my system. I believe I read somewhere that
 putting non-Debian-supplied software there helps in maintenance down the
 road one day. OTOH, I also vaguely remember reading that /usr/local is
 for software on my particular machine that isn't in a shared-mount
 directory such as /usr is in some workgroup environments.
 
 Bottom line. Where would be the most standard place to put that .tgz
 file and unpack it? And what reasons, if any, are there to even worry
 about where it goes? Maybe I'm just being paranoid (my understanding of
 Unix in general and Linux is particular is very lacking).


The standard way to do it, I believe is...

make a directory for it (say tknet1_1) under /usr/local/src and unpack it
in that directory...

Then move or softlink the binary and man pages to /usr/local/bin -
/usr/local/man/man? (replace the ? mark with the proper man section).

/usr/local/bin should only have binaries or links to binaries.

Using /usr/local makes it easier to keep track of the stuff you did
vs. the stuff the package manager (Debian) did  Under the Linux File
Standard, distributions can't use local directories...they are there only
for your use.  For example, you should never delete a binary from
/usr/bin, but instead use dpkg/dselect.  On the other hand it would be
fine to do so from /usr/local/bin, because you know your the person who
put it there in the first place.

Good luck
-Sam

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where is xload?

1997-05-19 Thread Dirk Bernhardt
Hi,

after upgrading to 1.3 I lost xload somewhere. Where is it?

Ciao,
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LaTeX to SGML?

1997-05-19 Thread adavis
I am working on a project for which final output is expected in PageMaker
format.  I don't have PageMaker, but I am familiar with LaTeX.  

I saw a reference to an SGML to Lyx package---is there a LaTeX to SGML
utility, or, alternately, a way to do this.  RTF may be an option, I think.
I have not had good results converting between LaTeX to RTF.  Is there a
recommended method to do this?

Many thanks, to many people who for a couple of years have kept on answering
my questions.  

Alan 


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Installing Debian Linux on a new system w/out MSDOG

1997-05-19 Thread adavis
I'm waiting for parts to arrive for a new system.  I can probably get a copy
of MSDOG, but I'd like to avoid this.  Eventually it will perhaps be
necessary to install Windows 95 or Windows NT and MSDOG, but to begin with,
I will install Linux.  

I expect to be able to create the installation disks for Debian on my
long faithful machine electra.  Can I reasonably expect to pull this off
without installing DOS at all?  Can I format the disks from the install
disks?  Can I partition them, all that?

Another question, out of curiosity: will it be feasible to install Windows95
later on?  Will it stomp on the linux system?  What about DOG---can I
reasonably expect to install that AFTER linux, without a problem?
Better still, can I run DOSEMU without having MSDOG installed ever at all?
I have a few programs like skyglobe and another astronomy sky disply
program, HYPERSKY, that I would like to run, as well as several other
programs.  I guess I would really need Windows 3.1 to run that on DOSEMU?

Thanks in advance,

Alan
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 but an imitation so cleverly wrought as to give the same impression
 of line and surface to any but a minute examination by a trained eye,
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Re: May 13 instalation disk's problem (vfat)

1997-05-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 19 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote:

 On Mon, 19 May 1997, Eugene Sevinian wrote:
 
  P.S. Just for curiosity ...
   HOw many people are participating in this mailing list?
 
The current debian-user distribution list contains 874 email addresses.

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Re: May 13 instalation disk's problem (vfat)

1997-05-19 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Dale Scheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: The current debian-user distribution list contains 874 email addresses.

How do you know?

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Re: net-acct and a ppp dial-in server

1997-05-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 19 May 1997, John Foster wrote:

 I tried this script from mgetty instaed of just the call 
 to pppd:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login defaultroute proxyarp
 whereisuser=`w | grep $1 | tr -s ' ' | cut -d ' ' -f 2 `
 addressuser=`grep $whereisuser /etc/hosts | expand | tr -s ' ' | \ 
   cut -d ' ' -f 1`
 echo $1  /var/run/$addressuser
 
 and the clients can dial-in OK, but the latter part (from wherisuser
 on) doesn't get run until the client logs out (ie after pppd dies), so
 the greps fail and no file is written. Before the pppd there is no way
 of telling who the user is ( Just AutoPPP!).

yes, that is normal behaviour - pppd is being run in the foreground
(with control of the tty) in this situation, so the remainder of the
script doesn't execute until pppd exits.

That's how it's supposed to be, so don't waste any time trying to get pppd
to run in the background.

One of pppd's features is the ability to run a script when a link is
established and another when it is terminated. These are the 'ip-up' and
'ip-down' scripts, and they reside in the /etc/ppp directory.

you need to edit your /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down scripts. the
documentation for net-acct tells how to do it for slip logins...it's not
very difficult to apply the same principles for ppp.

try adding something like:

/usr/bin/whoami /var/run/$5

to /etc/ppp/ip-up, and add:

rm /var/run/$5

to /etc/ppp/ip-down

this is the bare minimum you need to get it working.  

NOTE: these changes are untestedhowever, from my understanding of
the docs, they should work.


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Re: Installing Debian Linux on a new system w/out MSDOG

1997-05-19 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
I'd recommend creating a partition for MS-DOS right away.
No need to actually install it till required.

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On Mon, 19 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm waiting for parts to arrive for a new system.  I can probably get a copy
 of MSDOG, but I'd like to avoid this.  Eventually it will perhaps be
 necessary to install Windows 95 or Windows NT and MSDOG, but to begin with,
 I will install Linux.  
 
 I expect to be able to create the installation disks for Debian on my
 long faithful machine electra.  Can I reasonably expect to pull this off
 without installing DOS at all?  Can I format the disks from the install
 disks?  Can I partition them, all that?
 
 Another question, out of curiosity: will it be feasible to install Windows95
 later on?  Will it stomp on the linux system?  What about DOG---can I
 reasonably expect to install that AFTER linux, without a problem?
 Better still, can I run DOSEMU without having MSDOG installed ever at all?
 I have a few programs like skyglobe and another astronomy sky disply
 program, HYPERSKY, that I would like to run, as well as several other
 programs.  I guess I would really need Windows 3.1 to run that on DOSEMU?
 
 Thanks in advance,


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Metrolink Motif

1997-05-19 Thread Gernot
I already bought a motif-version from Metrolink. How can I tell Debian
that I have Motif installed (to install the motif-apps)?

Thanx, 

Gernot
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Re: DOSEMU drive access problem

1997-05-19 Thread Ken Lauffenburger
On May 18,  6:54pm, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
 Subject: Re: DOSEMU drive access problem
 On Sun, 18 May 1997, Ken Lauffenburger wrote:

 DOS-C version 0.92 [FreeDOS Release] (Build 37).

 Is freedos compatible with MS-DOS?

 Try using msdos boot disk first.

Aw, do I have to?  I was just getting ready to purge the last
of the M$ software from my system!

Actually, good suggestion.  I'll try it tonight.

But does this really have anything to do with the problem?
I was thinking that the emufs driver allows dosemu to access
the drives via the linux device drivers, and hiding the hardware
details while avoiding access conflicts with linux.  If that is
the case, then from a disk access point of view why should it
matter which version of DOS is riding on dosemu?

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Re: Installing Debian Linux on a new system w/out MSDOG

1997-05-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 19 May 1997, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:

 I'd recommend creating a partition for MS-DOS right away.
 No need to actually install it till required.

Agreed. Dos/Win/NT want the first partition of the first drive to be
their boot file system. So decide what you want for DOS and build the
partition (from a DOS rescue disk that has fdisk) with fdisk (msdos
version) before you do any linux work.

 
 -- 
 Jean Pierre
 
 On Mon, 19 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm waiting for parts to arrive for a new system.  I can probably get a copy
  of MSDOG, but I'd like to avoid this.  Eventually it will perhaps be
  necessary to install Windows 95 or Windows NT and MSDOG, but to begin with,
  I will install Linux.  
  
Ok, with the above proviso.

  I expect to be able to create the installation disks for Debian on my
  long faithful machine electra.  Can I reasonably expect to pull this off
  without installing DOS at all?  Can I format the disks from the install
  disks?  Can I partition them, all that?
  
The installation/rescue disk has all the tools for partitioning drives and
creating file systems and are intended to work without any pre-existing
os.

  Another question, out of curiosity: will it be feasible to install Windows95
  later on?  Will it stomp on the linux system?  What about DOG---can I
  reasonably expect to install that AFTER linux, without a problem?

No problem with dos, however win95 doesn't play well with others and will
probably break any mbr/lilo configuration you have for linux. Be sure to
have a boot disk handy for getting back into your linux system. Neither
msdos, windows3.1, or windows95 knows anything about a linux partition.
They usually just ignor the unknown partitions. Just make sure all the
dos partitions are first and the remaining partitions will not cause
problems.

  Better still, can I run DOSEMU without having MSDOG installed ever at all?

This is still developement software and applicability to your needs may
vary from case to case.

  I have a few programs like skyglobe and another astronomy sky disply
  program, HYPERSKY, that I would like to run, as well as several other
  programs.  I guess I would really need Windows 3.1 to run that on DOSEMU?
  
You might also look at wine. This is still very early stuff, but does run
some win progs.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: May 13 instalation disk's problem (vfat)

1997-05-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 19 May 1997, Eloy A. Paris wrote:

 Dale Scheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 : The current debian-user distribution list contains 874 email addresses.
 
 How do you know?
 
I let vi count the lines in the distribution list.
This isn't something anyone can get to. I maintain the debian-testing
mailing list and thus have the access to the lists.

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Re: Installing Debian Linux on a new system w/out MSDOG

1997-05-19 Thread Lawrence Chim
What about a bootable CD and install it directly from the CD?
Redhat allows installation without using floppies.

Lawrence,


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Class of machine needed for DNS router.

1997-05-19 Thread Chris Brown

 I have to set up a primary DNS that will also route between two 
10base2 ethernets with packet filtering.  The line to the Internet 
will be a 128 K ISDN line so that bandwidth will be limited there.  
What class of machine is necessary for such a task?  I have 3 
machines laying around, a 386-DX 40, 486-DX 33 and a 486-DX2 66.  At 
this point it doesn't make sense to commit too heavy a machine for 
this purpose and I'll put 16 Megs RAM and a 540 Meg had drive in it 
regardless of the processor.  Since it is going to have the DNS 
128 Megs of swap is probably necessary with the cached requests 
setting in the machine.  Any comments would be appreciated.


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Re:mgetty for PPP; Need help

1997-05-19 Thread Eugene Sevinian

After few attempts to compile the new binary of mgetty with ppp support
I was adviced to go  back to the initial point and try again with old
binary. It became clear ( to Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED],
not to me :-) that there were a propblem with IP address. When the last
item if IP was set to two digit instead of default 3 digit form than 
things had changed.

Presen state is following:
Dailing from the w95 box side I see 

Connected at 14400 bps  
Duration: 000:06:15

Details: 
Server type: PPP: Windows95, Windows NT 3.5, Internet
Protocols:
1) TCP/IP


However, when I try to run netscape ( the same with other staff)
netscape stops with following message on status line:

   Connect: Looking up host: home.netscape.com...
   
And after a bit thinking it returns:
   
   Netscape is unable to locate the server:
home.netscape.com
   The server does not have a DNS entry.

   Ckeck the sever name in the Location(URL)
   and try again.
---

Hope someone can help me to find the way out.

Thanks,

Eugene Sevinian


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Can't start xsession, help

1997-05-19 Thread Sergey Avvakumov


Hi 

I have the following problem - after successful
login in the xdm login window xdm starts xsession
but it immediately terminates and I see xdm welcome
again. I'm running Debian linux, installed less
than month ago from one of mirror-debian ftp sites.
I was trying to set up PPP with dynamic IP address,
and for some stupid reason commented out line in 
/etc/hosts with name of my PC and it's IP
address and then rebooted it. After doing it I can't
start xsession. Actually X starts executing /etc/X11/Xsession
file - I can see root window color, which is
set up from there, for a second, but it won't open xterminals
and quits. I guess X now considers computer as
a foreign host, and it's host-control terminates the
session. But then I logged in from alt console and
edited /etc/hosts file back as it was, but X behaves
the same way, terminates 1 second after starting.
Could anybody help with this?

Thanks

Sergei


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Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help

1997-05-19 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 
 
 After few attempts to compile the new binary of mgetty with ppp support
 I was adviced to go  back to the initial point and try again with old
 binary. It became clear ( to Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 not to me :-) that there were a propblem with IP address. When the last
 item if IP was set to two digit instead of default 3 digit form than 
 things had changed.
 
 Presen state is following:
 Dailing from the w95 box side I see 
 
 Connected at 14400 bps  
 Duration: 000:06:15
 
 Details: 
 Server type: PPP: Windows95, Windows NT 3.5, Internet
 Protocols:
 1) TCP/IP
 
 
 However, when I try to run netscape ( the same with other staff)
 netscape stops with following message on status line:
 
Connect: Looking up host: home.netscape.com...

 And after a bit thinking it returns:

Netscape is unable to locate the server:
 home.netscape.com
The server does not have a DNS entry.

You might need also to specify the address of nameserver(s) from win95
box side and make sure you give proxyarp option to pppd.

Alex Y.

 
Ckeck the sever name in the Location(URL)
and try again.
 ---
 
 Hope someone can help me to find the way out.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Eugene Sevinian
 
 
 Cosmic Ray Division
 Yerevan Phisics Institute
 Alikhanian's Brothers str.2
 375036 Yerevan 36
 Armenia
 
 URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html
 Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.)
 Fax: 374-2-350030
 
 
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Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help

1997-05-19 Thread Eugene Sevinian
On Mon, 19 May 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:

  
  Presen state is following:
  Dailing from the w95 box side I see 
  
  Connected at 14400 bps  
  Duration: 000:06:15
  
  Details: 
  Server type: PPP: Windows95, Windows NT 3.5, Internet
  Protocols:
  1) TCP/IP
  
  
  However, when I try to run netscape ( the same with other staff)
  netscape stops with following message on status line:
  
 Connect: Looking up host: home.netscape.com...
 
  And after a bit thinking it returns:
 
 Netscape is unable to locate the server:
  home.netscape.com
 The server does not have a DNS entry.
 

 You might need also to specify the address of nameserver(s) from win95
 box side and make sure you give proxyarp option to pppd.

I tried to add proxyarp to the coomand strings but things didn't
changed. Now it looks this way in /etc/mgetty/login.config:

/AutoPPP/ - -   /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap -pap login
:194.67.208.10 debug dns-addr 194.67.64.1  proxyarp

 
  
 Ckeck the sever name in the Location(URL)
 and try again.
  ---
  
  Hope someone can help me to find the way out.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Eugene Sevinian
  


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Yerevan Phisics Institute
Alikhanian's Brothers str.2
375036 Yerevan 36
Armenia

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Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.)
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Re: Installing Debian Linux on a new system w/out MSDOG

1997-05-19 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm waiting for parts to arrive for a new system.  I can probably get a copy
 of MSDOG, but I'd like to avoid this.  Eventually it will perhaps be
 necessary to install Windows 95 or Windows NT and MSDOG, but to begin with,
 I will install Linux.
 
 I expect to be able to create the installation disks for Debian on my
 long faithful machine electra.  Can I reasonably expect to pull this off
 without installing DOS at all?  Can I format the disks from the install
 disks?  Can I partition them, all that?

Yes. The install disks don't need to be formatted. You will write a
raw disk image onto them.
 
 Another question, out of curiosity: will it be feasible to install Windows95
 later on?  Will it stomp on the linux system?  What about DOG---can I
 reasonably expect to install that AFTER linux, without a problem?
 Better still, can I run DOSEMU without having MSDOG installed ever at all?
 I have a few programs like skyglobe and another astronomy sky disply
 program, HYPERSKY, that I would like to run, as well as several other
 programs.  I guess I would really need Windows 3.1 to run that on DOSEMU?

You should be able to install dos at any time. Note, however, that you
cannot change the size of Linux partitions are you've put a filesystem
on them. You will be able to install DOSEMU without having had dos
installed. If you think you might install it later, you may want to
create a partition for it.

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Re: Picky format of /etc/fstab according to mount command

1997-05-19 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote:
 
 Didn't know where to report this.  I looked at the source code, and it's full
 of different names and email addresses -- so the Debian users list seemed like
 a safe bet ...
 
 The mount command seems to be rather picky about the format of the 
 /etc/fstab file.
 In particular, the options column.  The comma-separated list of options 
 can't
 just a separated by commas -- each option must be separated by a comma and a 
 space.
 
 Example:
 
 
 (tao)hnine:/etc[503]$ cat fstab
 # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
 #
 #filesys  mnt pnt  type   options dump  
 pass
 /dev/hdb3   /   ext2defaults0 
   1
 /dev/hdb1   noneswapsw  0 
   0
 proc/proc   procdefaults0 
   0
 /dev/hdb2   /home   ext2defaults0 
   2
 /dev/sda1   /jazext2defaults0 
   0
 /dev/hda1   /dosc   vfatdefaults0 
   2
 /dev/hdd/cdrom  iso9660 auto, async, dev, exec, ro, suid, user  0 
   0
 /dev/fd0/dosa   msdos   defaults, user  0 
   0
 
 (tao)hnine:/etc[504]$ mount /cdrom
 mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
 (tao)hnine:/etc[505]$
 (tao)hnine:/etc[505]$ mount # EVERTHING IS FINE HERE
 /dev/hdb3 on / type ext2 (rw)
 /proc on /proc type proc (rw)
 /dev/hdb2 on /home type ext2 (rw)
 /dev/hda1 on /dosc type vfat (rw)
 /dev/hdd on /cdrom type iso9660 (ro)
 (tao)hnine:/etc[506]$
 (tao)hnine:/etc[506]$
 (tao)hnine:/etc[506]$ umount /cdrom
 (tao)hnine:/etc[507]$
 (tao)hnine:/etc[507]$ cat fstab # IT'S CHANGED! -- SPACES AFTER COMMAS TAKEN 
 OUT
 # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
 #
 #filesys  mnt pnt  type   options dump  
 pass
 /dev/hdb3   /   ext2defaults0 
   1
 /dev/hdb1   noneswapsw  0 
   0
 proc/proc   procdefaults0 
   0
 /dev/hdb2   /home   ext2defaults0 
   2
 /dev/sda1   /jazext2defaults0 
   0
 /dev/hda1   /dosc   vfatdefaults0 
   2
 /dev/hdd/cdrom  iso9660 auto,async,dev,exec,ro,suid,user0 
   0
 /dev/fd0/dosa   msdos   defaults, user  0 
   0
 
 (tao)hnine:/etc[508]$
 (tao)hnine:/etc[508]$ mount /cdrom
 (tao)hnine:/etc[509]$
 (tao)hnine:/etc[509]$ mount  # OH, NO!
 /dev/hdb3 on / type ext2 (rw)
 /proc on /proc type proc (rw)
 /dev/hdb2 on /home type ext2 (rw)
 /dev/hda1 on /dosc type vfat (rw)
 /dev/hdd on /cdrom type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
 (tao)hnine:/etc[510]$
 (tao)hnine:/etc[510]$ umount /cdrom
 (tao)hnine:/etc[511]$
 
 
 There is nothing I can see in the documentation about this...
 Can mount be easily changed so that it's not so picky?
 
 -- Harmon
 

Spaces and commas should *not* work. How else do you suppose mount
can read the file and know which fields are which? Each 'field' is
separated by whitespace and that's how the file is parsed.

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Re: Can't start xsession, help

1997-05-19 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Sergey Avvakumov wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I have the following problem - after successful
 login in the xdm login window xdm starts xsession
 but it immediately terminates and I see xdm welcome
 again. I'm running Debian linux, installed less
 than month ago from one of mirror-debian ftp sites.
 I was trying to set up PPP with dynamic IP address,
 and for some stupid reason commented out line in
 /etc/hosts with name of my PC and it's IP
 address and then rebooted it. After doing it I can't
 start xsession. Actually X starts executing /etc/X11/Xsession
 file - I can see root window color, which is
 set up from there, for a second, but it won't open xterminals
 and quits. I guess X now considers computer as
 a foreign host, and it's host-control terminates the
 session. But then I logged in from alt console and
 edited /etc/hosts file back as it was, but X behaves
 the same way, terminates 1 second after starting.
 Could anybody help with this?
 

Check for a file called .xsession-errors in your home directory.
Error messages generated when you run X should go here.

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Re: Real Audio

1997-05-19 Thread Zachary Payne
 I dont know, but it shouldn't be to hard to figure out, just go to the 
 real audio page, or email the support guys!


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Date:5/18/97 10:36 AM


Hey
 
Does anyone know if there is a Real Audio player for Linux, without the 
X-Windows/System (so: just text-only) ?
 
thanks.. 
 
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Re[2]: Can't start xsession, help

1997-05-19 Thread Zachary Payne
 Good question, ask your dog!, I always ask my dog my computer 
 questions!  He always answers I know it sound silly but it really 
 works!!!


__ Reply Separator _
Subject: Re: Can't start xsession, help
Author:  Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Internet-SMTP
Date:5/19/97 10:42 AM


Sergey Avvakumov wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I have the following problem - after successful 
 login in the xdm login window xdm starts xsession
 but it immediately terminates and I see xdm welcome 
 again. I'm running Debian linux, installed less
 than month ago from one of mirror-debian ftp sites. 
 I was trying to set up PPP with dynamic IP address, 
 and for some stupid reason commented out line in
 /etc/hosts with name of my PC and it's IP
 address and then rebooted it. After doing it I can't
 start xsession. Actually X starts executing /etc/X11/Xsession 
 file - I can see root window color, which is
 set up from there, for a second, but it won't open xterminals 
 and quits. I guess X now considers computer as
 a foreign host, and it's host-control terminates the 
 session. But then I logged in from alt console and
 edited /etc/hosts file back as it was, but X behaves 
 the same way, terminates 1 second after starting.
 Could anybody help with this?
 
 
Check for a file called .xsession-errors in your home directory. 
Error messages generated when you run X should go here.
 
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Re: Installing Debian Linux on a new system w/out MSDOG

1997-05-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 20 May 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote:

 What about a bootable CD and install it directly from the CD?
 Redhat allows installation without using floppies.
 
A bootable CD is fine for those system that have that support (with a
proper cd of course). If your CD drive is on a scsi device you can get
by with a single rescue disk. If not then an additional floppy (drivers
disk) is needed to install the module necessary to mount the CD drive.
From this point the base installation and the rest can all be installed
from the CD.
With a small DOS partition you can put resc1440.bin, drv1440.bin,
root.bin, base1_3.tgz, and the kernel image file, linux, on the C drive
along with loadlin.exe which can be used to install the sytem with NO
floppies.

Luck,

Dwarf
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lynx 2.7.1-1 update

1997-05-19 Thread Bob Nielsen
I checked for package updates and it showed lynx 2.7.1-1.  The
dependencies show that slang = 0.99.38 is required, but 0.99.34 is the
one available.  Will 0.99.38 be added to rex?

Bob


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deselect warnings

1997-05-19 Thread Bob Nielsen
Recently I have started getting the following message when running
dselect:

perl: warning: Setting locale failed for the categories:
LC_CTYPE LC_COLLATE
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LC_ALL = (unset),
LC_CTYPE = (unset),
LC_COLLATE = (unset),
LANG = us
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the C locale.

Not being very perl-literate, can someone please tell me what I should do,
if anything, about this.  I'm not aware of anything I have done which
would cause this message to suddenly start appearing.

TIA,
Bob


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Re: deselect warnings

1997-05-19 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 19, Bob Nielsen wrote
 Recently I have started getting the following message when running
 dselect:
 
 perl: warning: Setting locale failed for the categories:
 LC_CTYPE LC_COLLATE
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LC_ALL = (unset),
 LC_CTYPE = (unset),
 LC_COLLATE = (unset),
 LANG = us
 are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the C locale.

As far as I know, us-ish isn't yet considered a separate language from
English. :-)  Set LANG either to en or en_US and perl will be happy
again.

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apache no longer starting at boot.

1997-05-19 Thread Chris Brown

 I have apache instilled on my home machine to do some testing.  
It was in anticipation of setting it up at work.  Over the last few 
days, when I boot the machine apache doesn't load any longer.  Trying 
to start it manually by doing /etc/init.d/apache start doesn't work 
either.  None of the configuration files were changed from my 
recollection and I don't see anything in a log file complaining about 
it's untimely death.  The current log files in /var/log/apache/ are 
zero length.  I was thinking about uninstalling it and reinstalling 
it to see if that worked but I hate doing that without having an idea 
as to why this is happening.  Any ideas or suggestions as to log 
files to check back on would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: apache no longer starting at boot.

1997-05-19 Thread m*
Chris Brown wrote:
 
 Any ideas or suggestions as to log
 files to check back on would be greatly appreciated.
 

check to ensure you have a /home/www-data/webspace/logs directory
and a access.log file in that directory.

i've seen people break their config by unwittingly removing
the access.log file.

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Re: where is xload?

1997-05-19 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Hi Dirk,

funny thing! The same happened to me when switching to frozen. It's in
the xproc package. I do not understand what is happening there because
xload definitely is in the package. It seems that it just isn't copied
to it's place... Perhaps you could file a bug report on this?1?

By the way, if you want to know to which package a certain file belongs
you can use 'dpkg -S filename'

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Re: lynx 2.7.1-1 update

1997-05-19 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Hi Bob,

I just reported this as a bug.

Probably you can just install the slang package from frozen which has a
sufficient version.

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Re: deselect warnings

1997-05-19 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, 19 May 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:

 On May 19, Bob Nielsen wrote
  Recently I have started getting the following message when running
  dselect:
  
  perl: warning: Setting locale failed for the categories:
  LC_CTYPE LC_COLLATE
  perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
  LC_ALL = (unset),
  LC_CTYPE = (unset),
  LC_COLLATE = (unset),
  LANG = us
  are supported and installed on your system.
  perl: warning: Falling back to the C locale.
 
 As far as I know, us-ish isn't yet considered a separate language from
 English. :-)  Set LANG either to en or en_US and perl will be happy
 again.

That made the warning go away.  The us definition was inserted by a
script which came with StarOffice-3.1, which I had recently installed.
StarOffice doesn't seem to complain about en, as far as I can tell.  (I
didn't download the StarOffice documentation--which is in German--as is an
extra 10 megs or so.)

Anyway, since English has been legally defined as the official language of
Arizona, I should be using that anyway :^)

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Re: Xwindows running finally!! what's next?

1997-05-19 Thread Pete Templin

On Fri, 16 May 1997, Tan Wee Yeh wrote:

  twm 
 [background processes snipped]
  xterm -title Measun10 -geometry 80x40+30+200 -ls
 
 Just a little comment (for discussion).  Normally, I
 will prefer to put twm (or whatever windows manager)
 as the last process (let the others be background).
 This causes the window manager, rather than other
 processes, to be the anchor process, so that X kicks
 the user off when the windows manager quits.  I wonder
 if this is a good practice.

I've gotten bitten enough times (having just set up a friend's machine and
not fully tested it yet) with the window manager as the final process but
didn't yet have my mouse working.  I'd often have to forcibly kill X,
which I tend not to like to do.  If I'm using my normal fvwm, I can (once
I remember the default keys)drive my cursor by keyboard and exit an xterm,
but there isn't much option for killing the window manager by keyboard.

For the curious, here's a (slightly trimmed) version of my .xinitrc:

#! /bin/sh
#

# first things first.
#
# xhost - allows x clients onto this server.
xhost coral reef templinux


# Backgrounded jobs process in parallel.
#
# xclock - self explanatory
xclock -bg black -fg red -hd white -update 1 -geometry 96x96+3+809 

# xbiff - visual new mail.
xbiff -update 3 -volume 0 -bg black -fg blue -geometry 96x96+110+809 

# xsysinfo - kernel activity/usage indicator
xsysinfo -geometry 206x100+0-0 

# fvwm - window manager
fvwm 
xearth -proj merc 

# xautolock...automatically xlocks when unused for ten minutes
xautolock -locker xlock -mode maze 

# xcon - symlink to xterm (allows for different behavior in .fvwmrc
xcon -geometry 80x6+216-0 -T daemon.log -n daemon.log -e tail -f 
/var/log/daemon.log 

# NON BACKGROUNDED:
# this script (and therefore xinit) finishes when
# this process ends.

# xcon - symlink to xterm (allows for different behavior in .fvwmrc
xcon -C -geometry 80x6+711-0



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libc6 question

1997-05-19 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi,

I have a quick question about libc6. I see from the email describing the
new packages available that many are now built with libc6. Does this mean
that I need to have libc6 installed to run these packages. I don't want to
install  libc6 yet because of possible glitches. Thanks

 George 



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Re: DOSEMU drive access problem

1997-05-19 Thread Rick Jones
On Mon, 19 May 1997, Ken Lauffenburger wrote:

 On May 18,  6:54pm, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
  Subject: Re: DOSEMU drive access problem
  On Sun, 18 May 1997, Ken Lauffenburger wrote:
 
  DOS-C version 0.92 [FreeDOS Release] (Build 37).
 
  Is freedos compatible with MS-DOS?

According to the doc's it is almost 100% compatable.

 
  Try using msdos boot disk first.
 
 Aw, do I have to?  I was just getting ready to purge the last
 of the M$ software from my system!
 
 Actually, good suggestion.  I'll try it tonight.
 
 But does this really have anything to do with the problem?
 I was thinking that the emufs driver allows dosemu to access
 the drives via the linux device drivers, and hiding the hardware
 details while avoiding access conflicts with linux.  If that is
 the case, then from a disk access point of view why should it
 matter which version of DOS is riding on dosemu?
 
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JPEG utilities

1997-05-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
I see that there are many JPEG utilites/viewers for both SVGAlib and X.
However, what I need is a command line program that will return the
dimensions, # of colors, etc. for an image.  Is there such a beast?  I
know it's readily available if you understand the file format but I
don't yet and was hoping to avoid writing any C.

TIA.

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'w' works, 'who' does not...

1997-05-19 Thread Jon Valesh
Hello,

I have a set of servers running debian 1.2 as downloadable from a mirror
site today. There are two servers, using NIS to distribute user 
information.

From either system, if I type 'who', all I get back is a command prompt.

If I use 'w', I get the correct data.

I accedentally installed everything available from 'unstable' on both 
systems yesterday.

TIA,
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Re: apache no longer starting at boot.

1997-05-19 Thread m*
 check to ensure you have a /home/www-data/webspace/logs directory
 and a access.log file in that directory.
 
 i've seen people break their config by unwittingly removing
 the access.log file.
 

all,

i didn't mean to imply that Chris might have 'unwittingly' broke his
config or anything like that. sorry if it sounded that way.

good luck,

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I'm also looking for a C function to convert EBCDIC to ASCII

1997-05-19 Thread Russell Ross
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Re: I'm also looking for a C function to convert EBCDIC to ASCII

1997-05-19 Thread Anders Hammarquist
I'm web surfing lookng for a C function to convert EBCIDIC to ASCII and I
stumbled across the e-mail from Walter L Preuniger II, asking the same
question.

Have a look at GNU recode - it does conversions to/from most imaginable
character sets (including EBCDIC).

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Please turn that off, this is email after all...

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Re: JPEG utilities

1997-05-19 Thread joost witteveen
 I see that there are many JPEG utilites/viewers for both SVGAlib and X.
 However, what I need is a command line program that will return the
 dimensions, # of colors, etc. for an image.  Is there such a beast?  I
 know it's readily available if you understand the file format but I
 don't yet and was hoping to avoid writing any C.

(cat filename.jpg|djpeg -v -targa/dev/null) 21|sed -n -e 's/Start Of 
Frame.*://p'

works for me, though probably there are more straigt forward ways!



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Re: INN 1.5.1 problem

1997-05-19 Thread Francois Gouget
On Sun, 18 May 1997, Remco van de Meent wrote:

 On Sun, 18 May 1997, Francois Gouget wrote:
[...]
  441 Can't set system NNTP-Posting-Host header
[...]
 You're getting these errors because the NNTP-Posting-Host header isn't
 filtered out.
 Just write your own script to do that, instead of the post-news script, and
 it should work again. At least it did for me ;)

Okay, I had a look along these lines and solved the problem.

In fact the format of suck's get-news.conf changed between 3.3.2-1
and 3.4.1-2 but the installation script of suck did not issue any warning
(just told me that I already had a customised get-news.conf file).  It now
stores the regular expression to be matched for removing the NNTP header. 

At least squid-1.1.1-1 issued a warning when upgrading my
squid-1.0.20-1 because of the incompatible format and diald_0.16.1-4 even
proposed to update my existing configuration file (from diald_0.14-9)
which it did properly.

Clearly the suck-3.4.1-2 installation script should be enhanced.

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Re: libc6 question

1997-05-19 Thread joost witteveen
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a quick question about libc6. I see from the email describing the
 new packages available that many are now built with libc6. Does this mean
 that I need to have libc6 installed to run these packages.

Well, uhm, let's say yes.

 I don't want to
 install  libc6 yet because of possible glitches. Thanks

As far as I know, there are *no* glitches, at least not with
the old libc5 programmes still on your system. The only thing
that *might* go wrong, in case there are bugs in libc6, are
the new libc6 programmes.

And, as long as you don't install libc6-dev, and the latest libc6 gcc,
you will still compile your programmes as libc5.

So, the answer: go ehead, install libc6.

One drawback: for libc6, you'll need ldso-1.9 (unstable) That
one has no errors, (well, none that I know of), except that if
you ever decide to downgrade ldso, it'll itself from the system,
and your system will be unusable. But as long as you don't do
that, I don't think you'll find problemes.

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Re: Network mounting problems

1997-05-19 Thread joost witteveen
 Hello All:
 
 I have been running into a vexing problem with a cluster of 8 Debian
 machines I am using for a Course in Computational Physics.
 
 All of the machines are running Debian 1.2 as installed in December 1996.
 I have not wanted to do much upgrading during the course of the semester.
 so students can log into any one of the machines and find their data
 files. 
 
 The problem is that if the systems are left to run for an extended period
 of time (over a week usually but as little as a few days even!) the /home
 directory becomes inaccessible at login even though the df command shows
 it to be mounted.  This causes a great deal of problems and means that I
 have to reboot the machines regularly.  It also means that if I am not
 around people start to complain.  As a side note, the server is usually
 quite stable and stays up for many weeks at a time. Just the other
 machines need to be rebooted because of this problem. The kernel version
 is 2.0.27.

So, I assume the clients mount their /home from a (the?) server via NFS?
If so, I used to have a lot of problems with the old nfsd, that used
to die on my every so often (escpecially if two clients mount and read
from the nfs disks at the same time). This was solved by upgrading to
a more recent nfsd. But alas, you don't indicate that any nfsd dies,
so you may be running into another problem. Still, upgrading the
server's nfsd (from the netstd package) may improve matters.

Currently installed on my system (without problems):

$ /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd -v
Universal NFS Server 2.2beta25

$ dpkg -l netstd
ii  netstd  2.13-1 Networking binaries and daemons for Linux


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Re: libc6 question

1997-05-19 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 20, joost witteveen wrote
  I don't want to
  install  libc6 yet because of possible glitches. Thanks
 
 As far as I know, there are *no* glitches, at least not with
 the old libc5 programmes still on your system. The only thing
 that *might* go wrong, in case there are bugs in libc6, are
 the new libc6 programmes.

To echo what Joost said, there are no problems with installing libc6. It
will coexist just fine with libc5 (just like libc5 coexists with libc4). If
you want to *compile* programs with libc6, the procedure is still a bit
messy right now. But if you stay away (for now) from the -dev stuff with
libc6 in unstable, you should be just fine. So go ahead and install libc6.

  Christian


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