Motif v lesstif - was Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 ...

1997-07-05 Thread David B. Teague

On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:

> > >>Well, true, but it was linked against Motif 1.2 which make it useless
> > >>for most of us who has Motif 2.0 :(
> > 
> > >Works with lesstif too? ;)
> > 
> > I have seen several posts which claimed this couldn't be done.  What
> > steps would one need to take to get this working?
> 
> What do you mean? Making Lesstif and Motif binary compatible?
> You must have OSF source for that :)
> 
> Alex Y.

If one has the library call interface and specifications, it seems to me
that it should be possible to write a library that is functionally
identical to Motif. If this is not true, I'd like for someone to explain
to me why.

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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 5 Jul 1997, Michael Harnois wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 17:28:21 -0400 (EDT), Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> said:
> 
> > This looks like dpkg problems.
> 
> > Try downgrading to 1.4.0.8 (the 1.3 release version) and see if that
> > fixes it.
> 
> I really thought this was going to be the key ... nope.
> 
Well, the next most likely is perl. Can you downgrade to the version in
stable?

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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Michael Harnois
Well, I've discovered (accidentally) what crashes and burns on my
system. Any .deb file which has been on a vfat filesystem will not
open with mc. If I download a file to a vfat system, I can't open it. If I
copy it from an ext2fs filesystem to a vfat system, I can't open
it. If I copy the same file back to the ext2fs system, it won't open
there, either.

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Re: 3COM 3C905-TX PCI NIC

1997-07-05 Thread Kevin Traas
> >I installed using May 30 diskette set (Debian 1.3.0, Kernel 2.0.29). 
From
> >there, I chose the 3c59x module (I got this information from the above
URL
> >- like Dave mentioned, this should definitely be identified in modconf).
> >
> >I tried setting various options for this driver (as per the above web
page)
> >and, while the driver happily accepted them, loaded, and reported the
> >options as active, I couldn't communicate on the network.  I finally
went
> >with the default "options=7" and now everything is working great!
> 
> Where did you put this? LILO? You mention in your other post that you
didn't 
> use the DOS config. What you said above is what happens if you don't lock
> the card at one speed. It looks like this options thing is a way around
it. 
> (Maybe the right way. The locking it from DOS I saw mentioned many months

> and revisions of the driver ago)

The module gets loaded in /etc/modules and options are specified in
/etc/conf.modules.  (I can't give you the exact line right now because I'm
at home and system's at work.)
 
> >The only "funny" thing is that `ifconfig` reports eth0 as being "10Mbps
> >Ethernet"; however, it *is* operating at 100Mbps.
> 
> Hmmm I think it's broken. If I remember right it reported some DEC FDDI 
> boards I worked with as 10Mbps also. FDDI ain't nowhere near 10Mbps  ; >

I'd assumed the same.  I guess ifconfig or something needs to add support
for 100Mbps.  (I don't know, but I'd assume it supports various ArcNet,
TokenRing speeds, but not Ethernet, ATM, FDDI, etc. yet.)  On that point, I
didn't know Linux supported FDDI (or ATM?)  

Later,

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Re: HELP!!! dpkg messed up X11 (?)

1997-07-05 Thread Igor Grobman
> > That a mistake by the maintainer, and archive maintainer is on vacation, so 
> > this problem never got corrected.  It will be corrected with next release 
> > of 
> > libc5, I assume.
> > 
> > >  
> > > Always with the same error:
> > > 
> > > ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/usr/lib/libc5-compat
> > > (No such file or directory), skipping
> > 
> > 
> > This is not the problem.  libc5 installs this directory, but it is empty, 
> > so 
> > that's why there is the error, I assume.  It shouldn't prevent you from 
> > running anything though.
> 
> Wait a second, guys! I looked up the beginning of this discussion and
> noticed that you were downloading "stable" packages. I assume
> therefore that you have "bo" (or "rex") installed. The problems you
> are mentioning are surely "hamm" - relevant. 

no, stable libc5 includes libc5-compat directory.  In fact, stable libc5 is of 
later version that the one in unstable for whatever reason.  I do have to 
retract my suggestion to install ldso from unstable, as downgrading back may 
cause a multitude of problems.  I just checked, and xpm4.7 (one of the 
libraries reported not to load) is symlinked to bo in hamm, and hasn't been 
updated for a while (since march 20), so my guess that this is the problem with
altdev packages is clearly wrong and upgrading to new ldso shouldn't be needed.

HTH.
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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Michael Harnois
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 17:28:21 -0400 (EDT), Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> This looks like dpkg problems.

> Try downgrading to 1.4.0.8 (the 1.3 release version) and see if that
> fixes it.

I really thought this was going to be the key ... nope.

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Re: HELP!!! dpkg messed up X11 (?)

1997-07-05 Thread Alex Yukhimets
> That a mistake by the maintainer, and archive maintainer is on vacation, so 
> this problem never got corrected.  It will be corrected with next release of 
> libc5, I assume.
> 
> >  
> > Always with the same error:
> > 
> > ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/usr/lib/libc5-compat
> > (No such file or directory), skipping
> 
> 
> This is not the problem.  libc5 installs this directory, but it is empty, so 
> that's why there is the error, I assume.  It shouldn't prevent you from 
> running anything though.

Wait a second, guys! I looked up the beginning of this discussion and
noticed that you were downloading "stable" packages. I assume
therefore that you have "bo" (or "rex") installed. The problems you
are mentioning are surely "hamm" - relevant. Note: upgrading from
unstable in current situation will not work as it was before due to
libc5-libc6 transition! Do not install anything from "unstable",
especially developmental packages, unless you have complete
understanding what you are doing!

The solution in your case would be to "downgrade" everything you have
from "unstable" to "stable" versions.

Alex Y.

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Re: HELP!!! dpkg messed up X11 (?)

1997-07-05 Thread Igor Grobman
> Igor Grobman wrote:
> > 
> > Looks like the installation of libc5, an essential package failed. Download 
> > it
> > from debian/stable/binary-i386/libs and install with dpkg -i libc5*deb
> > 
> 
> yup, that's what i tried right after my original post -
> and i tried it again after reading your reply - with
> the same result:
> 
> I tried these libc5 packages in turn:
> 
> libc5_5.4.20-1.deb (the one from my "old" cdrom)
> libc5_5.4.23-4.deb (the one in unstable)
> libc5_5.4.33-3.deb (the one in stable - 
> has the higher number than in the one in stable !?)

That a mistake by the maintainer, and archive maintainer is on vacation, so 
this problem never got corrected.  It will be corrected with next release of 
libc5, I assume.

>  
> Always with the same error:
> 
> ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/usr/lib/libc5-compat
> (No such file or directory), skipping


This is not the problem.  libc5 installs this directory, but it is empty, so 
that's why there is the error, I assume.  It shouldn't prevent you from 
running anything though.

> 
> the upshot: x11 is still not running.
> in general, it seems that at least some of the shared 
> libraries cannot be found/loaded, despite the fact that they 
> clearly exist on the disk.
> in particular though: Which package creates the file
> "/usr/X11R6/lib/usr/lib/libc5-compat" ? 

see above.
> 
> thanks for your tip. if you or other people on the list
> have any more suggestions, I would be very glad to hear 
> from you...

I looked over your original mail, and it states that you weren't able to load 
libraries other than libc5, I seem not to have noticed that :).  Make sure you 
have /usr/X11R6/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf, and if not add it there, and run 
lddconfig as root.
If this does not fix the problem, try getting the ldso package from unstable, 
as your problem might be due to a bug with altdev packages (packages for 
compiling  with libc5 on libc6 systems) recently discussed on debian-devel.


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Re: HELP!!! dpkg messed up X11 (?)

1997-07-05 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
On  5 Jul, Reto Andreas Bachmann wrote:

> in particular though: Which package creates the file
> "/usr/X11R6/lib/usr/lib/libc5-compat" ? 
> 
$ dpkg -S libc5-compat
libc5: /usr/lib/libc5-compat
libc5: /lib/libc5-compat
$ dpkg -l libc5
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  libc5   5.4.23-4   The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr

Ciao,
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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
>> 
>> ./binutils_2.8.1-2.deb: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `!'
>> ./binutils_2.8.1-2.deb: line 1: `!'
>> 
> This looks like dpkg problems.
> 
> Try downgrading to 1.4.0.8 (the 1.3 release version) and see if that fixes
> it.
> 
This is not the case on my system. No errors when entering a package.

BTW: this is my libc5

ii  libc5   5.4.23-4  

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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 5 Jul 1997, Michael Harnois wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lindsay Allen) writes:
> 
> > I certainly understand things better now and it seems that the
> > problem is not in mc at all.  I just wiped every mc related file
> > from my box and installed Paul's mc_4.0-linux-1_i386.deb and it
> > behaves in exactly the same way.  There is a lot of disk activity
> > when I hit Enter on a .deb so I think the file is being opened.  I
> > just don't get to see the result.
> 
> This doesn't work at all for me, either. View is fine, but hitting
> Enter does nothing. Lindsay, if you hit Ctrl-o after such an operation 
> you should be able to see what the shell returned. When I hit enter on 
> binutils_2.8.1-2.deb, for example, I get 
> 
> ./binutils_2.8.1-2.deb: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `!'
> ./binutils_2.8.1-2.deb: line 1: `!'
> 
This looks like dpkg problems.

Try downgrading to 1.4.0.8 (the 1.3 release version) and see if that fixes
it.

Luck,

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Re: It still don't work......

1997-07-05 Thread Brandon Mitchell
to make an 8 meg swap file called swap1 in the current directory:
dd if=/dev/zero of=swap1 bs=1024 count=8192
mkswap swap1 8192
sync
swapon swap1

But swap files are slower and can potentially cause problems, so swap
partitions are prefered.  Just make the swap partition large enough that
you don't need a swap file for normal use (only experience and a lot of 
free commands can tell you how big this is).  Then only add the swap files
when the system under higher than normal load.  I think there is a program
that adds swap when needed automatically, but this just adds more load to
a system, and if I was ever in need of squeezing every bit out of this
harddrive, I'd delete the .75 gig mirror I have sitting around :-)

HTH,
Brandon

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On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> So your saying that I should acutally have a bigger swap...  I remember
> when partitioning the HD I wondered about how much I should use.  I
> don't recall seeing anything that suggested the swap partition size...  
> 
> Ok So its back to start over.  Or can I reduce the /usr partition
> and add that to my swap partition with out effecting anything. 
> Normally on DOS you can't do that...


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Re: ideas: tutorial and mail filter

1997-07-05 Thread Brandon Mitchell
> Brandon Mitchell writes:
> 
> >   2) Is there a way to convert the following from my .procmailrc:
> > :0:
> > * .*(@mega.net|\
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]|\
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]|\
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]|\
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]|\
> > ...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > 
> > to search for one of these e-mail addresses in a file?  The idea being I
> > can get a list of spam addresses, append them to a file, and procmail does
> > it's dirty job if the address is in the file.  Otherwise, I'll get one
> > long and dirty .procmailrc file.

I'd like to thank Joey for his help with procmail on  LISC irc
(irc.linpeople.org#Debian).

You can find a good example at Lars Wirzenius' webpage.  If you are
interested please take a look at http://www.iki.fi/liw/mail-to-lasu.html.

As to what I have done, I process mailing list, pull out e-mail from
trusted addresses, and check the remaining mail for spam addresses and for
strings commonly found in spam.  After I get it to a final state, I was
thinking of submitting it to the procmail maintianer for addition to the
/usr/doc/procmail/examples directory.

--- .procmailrc ---
PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail

# debian stuff from mailing list
INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.deb

# White list is a list of personal friends, mail will go to inbox
WHITELIST =   $PMDIR/white.list
WHITEBOX  =   $DEFAULT
INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.white

# Black list contains a list of known spammers plus a scan through the
# body for well known spam strings
BLACKLIST =   $PMDIR/black.list
BLACKSTRING = $PMDIR/black.string
BLACKTEXT =   $PMDIR/black.text
INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.black

--- rc.white ---
:0 Whic
| (formail -x from: -x sender: | grep -iqFf $WHITELIST)

:0 a
$WHITEBOX

--- rc.black ---
:0 Whic
* !^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| (formail -x from: -x sender: | grep -iqFf $BLACKLIST)

:0 a
| (formail -rt -A"Precedence: junk" \
   -A"X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ; \
   cat $BLACKTEXT) | $SENDMAIL -t

:0 Wic
* !^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| grep -iqFf $BLACKSTRING

:0 a
| (formail -rt -A"Precedence: junk" \
   -A"X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ; \
   cat $BLACKTEXT) | $SENDMAIL -t

--- white.list ---
# list of trusted people
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
root@
postmaster@

--- black.list ---
# list of known spammers and spam sites
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@cyberpromo.com


--- black.string ---
# strings commonly found in spam letters
get rich quick
$$$

Thanks again Joey and Lars,
Brandon

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Re: HELP!!! dpkg messed up X11 (?)

1997-07-05 Thread Reto Andreas Bachmann
Igor Grobman wrote:
> 
> Looks like the installation of libc5, an essential package failed. Download it
> from debian/stable/binary-i386/libs and install with dpkg -i libc5*deb
> 

yup, that's what i tried right after my original post -
and i tried it again after reading your reply - with
the same result:

I tried these libc5 packages in turn:

libc5_5.4.20-1.deb (the one from my "old" cdrom)
libc5_5.4.23-4.deb (the one in unstable)
libc5_5.4.33-3.deb (the one in stable - 
has the higher number than in the one in stable !?)
 
Always with the same error:

ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/usr/lib/libc5-compat
(No such file or directory), skipping

the upshot: x11 is still not running.
in general, it seems that at least some of the shared 
libraries cannot be found/loaded, despite the fact that they 
clearly exist on the disk.
in particular though: Which package creates the file
"/usr/X11R6/lib/usr/lib/libc5-compat" ? 

thanks for your tip. if you or other people on the list
have any more suggestions, I would be very glad to hear 
from you...

reto


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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Michael Harnois
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lindsay Allen) writes:

> I certainly understand things better now and it seems that the
> problem is not in mc at all.  I just wiped every mc related file
> from my box and installed Paul's mc_4.0-linux-1_i386.deb and it
> behaves in exactly the same way.  There is a lot of disk activity
> when I hit Enter on a .deb so I think the file is being opened.  I
> just don't get to see the result.

This doesn't work at all for me, either. View is fine, but hitting
Enter does nothing. Lindsay, if you hit Ctrl-o after such an operation 
you should be able to see what the shell returned. When I hit enter on 
binutils_2.8.1-2.deb, for example, I get 

./binutils_2.8.1-2.deb: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `!'
./binutils_2.8.1-2.deb: line 1: `!'

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Re: It still don't work......

1997-07-05 Thread Jon Nelson
Responding to the message of Sat, 5 Jul 1997 10:49:36 -0600 
from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
> Well here we go again
> 
> A little background so some of you remember.
> 
> I installed debain 1.3 (7) times.  Have been having trouble getting
> dselect to install files using the ftp access method.  I keep getting
> this can't map /lib/libc message.
> 
> Well someone sugested that I type this
> 
I don't know much but I will surely try to help you out.
First, where did you get the distribution?  Is it on CD?  Did you
FTP it?  Having installed Slackware a number of times before I learned of 
Debian, I know this can be a frustrating experience.  Personally, this is 
my take on the situation:  I would ftp the rescue, drivers, and base disks 
from one of the debian sites... I always use ftp.caldera.com in 
/pub/mirrors/debian.  Having installed Debian three days ago using that 
method, completely without flaw (except X, but that's a whole new ball of 
wax), I can only say that I think it should work for you, too.

Give it a try, and let us know how it goes!

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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> My config:
> 
> paul's unofficial mc 4.0 package
> ii  perl5.004-1   
> ii  libc6   2.0.3-4(don't know if it matters)
> ii  dpkg1.4.0.11  
> ii  gzip1.2.4-14  
> ii  tar 1.12-1
> 
> Perl gives me these starnge locales problems, so I see, that some perl
> script is started.
> 
> I hope someone has a idea what the problem is...
> 
The following is what is to be found on a fresh 1.3.1 system, where mc
does work correctly, once mc.ext is properly patched. There are several
candidates for test, but I would suggest starting with dpkg before going
to perl. Also it is more important which version of libc5 you are running
for the current version of mc.

ii  perl5.003.07-10
ii  libc5   5.4.33-3
ii  dpkg1.4.0.8
ii  gzip1.2.4-15
ii  tar 1.11.8-11

No libc6 present.

Note: all of the above are 1..3.1 packages.

Luck,

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Re: mc problem -- anyone speaks Perl out there?

1997-07-05 Thread Dima
>>Dale Scheetz wrote:

 >One posibility is that perl is somehow broken.

[Sorry, this is rather long-winded]

Ok, here's what happens (from MC_LIB/extfs/README):

... command should list the complete archive content in the following format
(a little modified ls -l listing):

AAA NNN    DATETIME [PATH/]FILENAME [-> [PATH/]FILEN
AME[/]]]

where (things in [] are optional):

AAA  is the permission string like in ls -l
NNN  is the number of links
 is the owner (either UID or name)
 is the group (either GID or name)
 is the file size
FILENAME is the filename
PATH is the path from the archive's root without the leading slash (/)
... (about '-> PATH' bit etc.)

Here's what MC_LIB/extfs/deb does:
...
print "dr-xr-xr-x   1 root root 0 $date CONTENTS\n";
print "-r--r--r--   1 root root $info_size $date INFO\n";
print "-r-xr--r--   1 root root $install_size $date INSTALL\n";

if ( open(PIPEIN, "dpkg-deb -c $archivename |") )
{
  while()
  {
($perm,$owgr,$size,$month,$day,$time,$year,$path,$arrow,$link,$link2)
   = split;
...
# a bit of magic here, and
print "$perm 1 $owgr $size $month $day $year $time 
CONTENTS/$path$arrow$link\n";
# reformatted by mh, sorry
  }
}

Here's what it outputs:

$ ./deb list perlmagick_1.12-1.deb | less
dr-xr-xr-x   1 root root 0 Jul 06 1997 04:29 CONTENTS
-r--r--r--   1 root root 940 Jul 06 1997 04:29 INFO
-r-xr--r--   1 root root 515 Jul 06 1997 04:29 INSTALL
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 1997-06-22 09:17  ./ CONTENTS/
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 1997-06-22 09:17  usr/ CONTENTS/
... etc. Note this ^^

It is my impression that it should show

drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 1997-06-22 09:17  CONTENTS/usr/

I don't know enough Perl to work out wtf's going on. Any suggestions,
anyone?

Dimitri


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I broke 'whatis'. How do I fix it?

1997-07-05 Thread Dave Cinege
I don't know how the hell I did it, but I broke whatis. Whereis works.
But whatis always returns "Nothing appropriate".

Whatis works on all my other machines. This machine is a clean 1.3.0 
install, but I have installed quite a bit of extra junk.



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Recognizing old scsi controller/disk

1997-07-05 Thread Michael B. Taylor
I am unable to get an old scsi disk recognized during installation, and
would appreciate help.

I am trying to install Debian on a rather old system with a Future Domain
TMC830 scsi controller.  From information obtained from Adaptec's (they
bought Future Domain) web site, I have determined that the card is
jumpered for memory address of CA000-C8FFF, and an interupt of IRQ 5. 
This is the default setup for the card.  This card/disk boots up DOS just
fine.

I boot the system using a Debian 1.3 rescue disk.  At the boot prompt, I
type:

tmc830=0xca00,5

per the help file (f5 key) on the rescue disk.  I have also tried more and
fewer trailing zeros in the memory address.  The system responds with:

Could not find kernel image:  tmc830=0.xca

I am not trying to point to a kernel image with the boot parameter, I am
just trying to get it to recognize the scsi hardware.

I have installed Debian on an IDE drive on this system with no problems.  

I am out of ideas.  Yours would be greatly appreciated.

Mike Taylor



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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
On  5 Jul, Paul Seelig wrote:
>> 
>> Not so fast.When I hit Enter on /CONTENTS I get
>>   /..0
>> 
>> and that's it.
>>
> Uh oh! That's strange! :-(
> 
> So now we need to know all the hairy details: Do you have the latest
> 'dpkg' installed? I use version 1.4.0.8 and it works fine with MC.
> What about 'tar' and 'gzip'?  You see, i'm only poking a little around
> in the dark...

I also have this strange /CONTENTS   0  problem.
I can view the content of INFO though. For paul's mc pachage it gives:
new debian package, version 2.0.
size 487000 bytes: control archive= 1151bytes.

Then some lines about
confiles, control, postinst, postrm, prerm

Then the package desciption.

My config:

paul's unofficial mc 4.0 package
ii  perl5.004-1   
ii  libc6   2.0.3-4(don't know if it matters)
ii  dpkg1.4.0.11  
ii  gzip1.2.4-14  
ii  tar 1.12-1

Perl gives me these starnge locales problems, so I see, that some perl
script is started.

I hope someone has a idea what the problem is...

Ciao,
Martin



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Re: ncurses3.4

1997-07-05 Thread Douglas L Stewart
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Kevin M. Bealer wrote:

> You can get it from ftp.i-connect.com, in Incoming, and info, et al
> will run again.

That's ftp.i-connect.net I believe.

-douglas


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Re: depmod question: ELF header not found?

1997-07-05 Thread Joost Kooij


On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Giuseppe Vacanti wrote:

>  I installed my custom kernel and went to run `depmod -a'. I get the
>  following error:
> 
>  modprobe: error reading ELF header: no such file or directory

This may be your problem:  
If you install a custom kernel made with an older version of
kernel-package, some text files are placed in /lib/modules/
The newer depmod will choke on these, because they don't have a valid ELF
header.

This may be your solution:
Remove al *_MODULES files (recursively) from /lib/modules/
This should get depmod going again.
Get a newer kernel-package if you want to compile another kernel with
kernel-package. Newer versions won't put non-modules in /lib/modules/*


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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Paul Seelig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lindsay Allen) writes:
> > On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Lindsay Allen wrote:
> > > On /debian/bo/binary-i386/admin/acct_6.2-4.deb I get :-
> > >
> > > /..   2048
> > > /CONTENTS0
> > >  INFO 1206
> > > *INSTALL   515
> > > 
> > > and it's the same story for all .deb files.
> > >
> > Yes, that is quite normal and makes me wonder what is the problem!? 
> > Just go further on and enter the "./CONTENTS" subdirectory where you
> > will find what you have been searching for. If you press enter on
> > "*INSTALL" dpkg will install the package for you. I do this all the
> > time like this! ;-)
> 
> Not so fast.When I hit Enter on /CONTENTS I get
>   /..0
> 
> and that's it.
>
Uh oh! That's strange! :-(

> I certainly understand things better now and it seems that the
> problem is not in mc at all.  I just wiped every mc related file
> from my box and installed Paul's mc_4.0-linux-1_i386.deb and it
> behaves in exactly the same way.  There is a lot of disk activity
> when I hit Enter on a .deb so I think the file is being opened.  I
> just don't get to see the result.  
>
So now we need to know all the hairy details: Do you have the latest
'dpkg' installed? I use version 1.4.0.8 and it works fine with MC.
What about 'tar' and 'gzip'?  You see, i'm only poking a little around
in the dark...
 Wondering, P. *8^)
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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Paul Seelig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Puryear) writes:

> In your /etc/mc/mc.ext you should have these:
> 
> # deb
> regex/\.deb$
> Open=%cd deb:%d/%p/
> View=%view{ascii} dpkg-deb -c %f
> 
> A while back, I reported this as bug, but I guess it was not fixed.
> 
I'll report this to the MC upstream maintainer Miguel de Icaza for
inclusion into the regular MC distribution.  He was already so nice to
include support for *.deb in the main source code upon my request a
few months ago.  Another milestone in making Debian packaging a de
facto standard besides RPM. ;-)
Cheers, P. *8^)

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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Paul Seelig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dima) writes:

>  >In your /etc/mc/mc.ext you should have these:
>  >
>  ># deb
>  >regex/\.deb$
>  >Open=%cd deb:%d/%p/
>  >View=%view{ascii} dpkg-deb -c %f
>   ^^^
> Thanks. Using '%f' is recommended, tho'.
> 
> It enables you to view contents on , but it's not what Lindsay asked
> about.  That is done  by /usr/local/lib/mc/extfs/deb -- it's a Perl script
> and I can't see anything wrong with it (I don't know much about Perl tho'.)
> I guess either *.deb format has changed since it was written or the problem
> is with Perl.
> FWIW I've perl-5.004-2 here, and *.deb browser doesn't work for me.
> 
I still use perl-5.003.07-10 and browsing a *.deb works just okay
here.  Lindsay, which perl do you have installed?  Could you please
try downgrading it if it is perl-5.004-2 just for finding out if it
works this way?  Anyway, the lib/mc/extfs/deb perl script probably
needs an overhaul anyway if it doesn't work with perl-5.004-2.  I hope
the current maintainer Fernando Alegre finds the time to do it!? (I
don't speak perl.)
  Cheers, P. *8^)
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Re: It still don't work......

1997-07-05 Thread bigt

PA>If that is 2 meg total you need more. If it's 2 meg used, OK. I usually
PA>create a swap partition of 32mb or more. Often I create them at the max
PA>usable 128mb because I tend to really hammer the system with a lot of
PA>tasks.

PA>> The date on the floppy is 5-28-97 (looking at the rescue disk using
PA>> dos).

PA>That should be correct if they were all created from the same directory.

So your saying that I should acutally have a bigger swap...  I remember
when partitioning the HD I wondered about how much I should use.  I
don't recall seeing anything that suggested the swap partition size...  

Ok So its back to start over.  Or can I reduce the /usr partition
and add that to my swap partition with out effecting anything. 
Normally on DOS you can't do that...


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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Lindsay Allen wrote:

> Thanks to Paul, Dale, David and Dimitri for your help.  I certainly
> understand things better now and it seems that the problem is not in mc at
> all.  I just wiped every mc related file from my box and installed Paul's
> mc_4.0-linux-1_i386.deb and it behaves in exactly the same way.  There is
> a lot of disk activity when I hit Enter on a .deb so I think the file is
> being opened.  I just don't get to see the result. 
> 
I think you are right that it isn't an mc problem you are having. I just
did a fresh install of the current bo archive. A standard installation,
plus mc and joe, got me an mc that didn't work until I applied the patch I
sent you. At that point it works fine (and on this crummy, limping 486
that I use for testing).

One posibility is that perl is somehow broken. Try re-installing perl and
see if that fixes the problem. I hope it's no more complicated than this.

Keep in touch,

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Re: It still don't work......

1997-07-05 Thread bigt

IG>Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 12:27:57 -0400
IG>From: Igor Grobman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



IG>did you type ldconfig (as root) after that?  That might be the problem.
IG>if that doesn't work, try reinstalling dpkg with dpkg -i (it includes dselec

IG>HTH.

Yes I did.  I did find dpkg-dev and installed that one using dpkg -i
method.  Heres what I get now using dselect...

Processing Status file...

Processing Package files...
  stable...
/usr/bin/dpkg: can't map 'lib/libc.so.5'
/usr/bin/dpkg: can't map 'lib/libc.so.5'
/usr/bin/dpkg: can't load libary 'libc.so.5'
dpkg--compare-verions 3.2 lt 3.2-failed with 16 at
/usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install line 101,  chunk 235
Installation script returned error exit status 2

Thats all she does...
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Re: It still don't work......

1997-07-05 Thread bigt


PA>I will be sending the 1.3.1 CD Monday. One of my machines is a 386DX40
PA>with 8 mb and a soundblaster 2x cd drive that is flaky under windows. I
PA>have a 540 mb IDE drive in it that I use just for testing and I have good
PA>results with it installing from my CD or from my network.

PA>What date were the floppy image files that you used? I can't see that this
PA>would be a hardware problem if dpkg -i works. Do you have an active swap
PA>partition? The free command will tell you. The df command will tell you
PA>about filesystem space.


Ok Paul,

Yes I do have an active swap, its 2 meg.

The date on the floppy is 5-28-97 (looking at the rescue disk using
dos).

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Re: package creation/maintenance

1997-07-05 Thread Philippe Troin

On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 12:13:06 EDT dpk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Are there any examples available of making debian packages?  I figured
> there would/has been a lot of questions about it, and was hoping someone
> has provided a brief example of a debian package being made.  

Look at the hello package...

Phil.



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package creation/maintenance

1997-07-05 Thread dpk
Are there any examples available of making debian packages?  I figured
there would/has been a lot of questions about it, and was hoping someone
has provided a brief example of a debian package being made.  

Thanks,
Dennis  


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Re: A Basic Question

1997-07-05 Thread jdassen
On Jul 4, Alex Fan wrote
> Where can I find a Debian Distribution?  Is it avilable on CDs or just
> from download?

Both. Download: see ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors ; 
CDs: http://www.debian.org/vendors.html . 

HTH,
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It still don't work......

1997-07-05 Thread bigt
Well here we go again

A little background so some of you remember.

I installed debain 1.3 (7) times.  Have been having trouble getting
dselect to install files using the ftp access method.  I keep getting
this can't map /lib/libc message.

Well someone sugested that I type this

ln -s /lib/libc.so.5.4.33 libc.so
ln -s /lib/libm.so.5.4.33 libm.so

Well I did and I thought it was going to work... But I still get the
same error messages when using deselect.

Now I can install packages individually using dpkg -i   This
works fine and thats what I have been having to do.

So why do I get this error?  Is this going to happen everytime I want
to use dselect to upgrade??  Is this suppose to be this way?  I didn't
think so

I am at a loss still...  Any suggestions?  Shall I start over??  Could
it simply be the mother board?  I believe this is a HOT307 386
Motherboard with 8 megs ram.  


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Re: Toshiba laptop install: can't get X or mouse to work

1997-07-05 Thread jdassen
On Jul 5, Mark Phillips wrote
> I am trying to install Debian on a Toshiba 410CS laptop.  I am having
> problems creating a XF86Config file which will work.  It complains that
> there is no mode "800x600" or something like that.  But in the setup I
> specified this as one of the modes.  Any ideas?

How are you creating the XF86Config file? With "xf86config" or by hand?

> The second problem is that the mouse doesn't work.  The documentation
> seems to suggest that it is a PS/2 mouse.  Can anyone confirm this?  But I
> don't know whether this is a serial or bus mouse.  And I don't know what
> dev file to use.  I tried /dev/ttyS0 but this doesn't seem to work.  Any
> ideas?

/dev/psaux or /dev/psmouse should work. AFAIK it's neither serial nor bus.

HTH,
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Re: A Basic Question

1997-07-05 Thread Peter . Yarych . gandolph

On 03-Jul-97 Will Lowe wrote:
>On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Alex Fan wrote:
>
>> Is Debian a Linux distribution, just like Slackware and Radhat?
>
>Well,  yes,  it's a distribution.  We'd like to think that it's somewhat
>nicer than Slackware and Redhat,  tho :) .

And IMHO 
it is ;-)


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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

1997-07-05 Thread Alex Yukhimets
> >>Well, true, but it was linked against Motif 1.2 which make it useless
> >>for most of us who has Motif 2.0 :(
> 
> >Works with lesstif too? ;)
> 
> I have seen several posts which claimed this couldn't be done.  What
> steps would one need to take to get this working?

What do you mean? Making Lesstif and Motif binary compatible?
You must have OSF source for that :)

Alex Y.

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Re: HELP!!! dpkg messed up X11 (?)

1997-07-05 Thread Igor Grobman
Looks like the installation of libc5, an essential package failed. Download it
from debian/stable/binary-i386/libs and install with dpkg -i libc5*deb
 


> Need Your Help:
> 
> I was downloading some packages from "stable" so that
> I could try to build a custom kernel. While I was 
> downloading and installing (with dpkg), I got bored
> and wanted to play maelstrom - but mealstrom refused 
> to start, same for xtetris. Then dpkg reported it was
> having problems installing packages. Now,
> I cannot even start X - after logging in via xdm I 
> simply get back the xdm login screen.
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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

1997-07-05 Thread Glen Carreras
>>Well, true, but it was linked against Motif 1.2 which make it useless
>>for most of us who has Motif 2.0 :(

>Works with lesstif too? ;)

I have seen several posts which claimed this couldn't be done.  What
steps would one need to take to get this working?

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Re: off topic: password strategy as an ISP

1997-07-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jul 05, 1997 at 07:44:02AM +1000, John Foster wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > #!/bin/sh
> > cat <<__EOF__
> > No telnet login allowed.
> > 
> > ** Insert the motd here **
> >  
> > __EOF__
> > sleep 5
> > exit 0
> > 
> 
> And if the remote user managed to interrupt it would they get
> /bin/sh?, with EUID 0?
> 
> And what if the sleep call was suspended?
> 
> I don't think a shell script could ever be a secure shell...

If they interrupted the script, the interpreter (/bin/sh) would
exit, and so there'd be nothing left running. And it wouldn't be root
anyway -- setuid scripts are not allowed (by the kernel) because
they are prone to security problems.


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Re: off topic: password strategy as an ISP

1997-07-05 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
On  5 Jul, John Foster wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> #!/bin/sh
>> cat <<__EOF__
>> No telnet login allowed.
>> 
>> ** Insert the motd here **
>>  
>> __EOF__
>> sleep 5
>> exit 0
>> 
> 
> And if the remote user managed to interrupt it would they get
> /bin/sh?, with EUID 0?
> 
> And what if the sleep call was suspended?
> 

Did you tried the script ? If I try to suspend it, I get a "Connection 
closed by foreign host."

The same with STRG+C.

I believe that as this script is the "login shell", you can't interrupt
it without being disconnected. But someone with better knowledge of unix
internals can tell you the real explanation. 

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: questions about new releases

1997-07-05 Thread Jason Westervelt
Lalo Martins wrote:

> On Jul 4, Jaakko Niemi wrote
> > [...] It would be though nice to have debianized
> >  packages of pentium-optimize pieces in (let's say)
> "unstable-pentium"
>
> Wouldn't that be "binary-pentium"? (As well as there are binary-i386,
> etc)

nah, 'unstable-pentium' is about as true as you can get... =)

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Python and Postgres-questions

1997-07-05 Thread Johann Spies
1. How do I add an extended module, written in C, to Python using the
Debian-version of Python? (e.g. pg95 - Pygres95 for interfacing
Postgres95).

2. Are there any debian-users using python as an interface to a PostgreSQL
or Postgres95?

3. Is there a possibility that PostgreSQL 6.1 will be available in
debian-format in the near future?

I have previously asked questions relating this topic in this list and
also to the maintainer of the debian-version of python but did not receive
any answers that could solve my problems.

Are there any Debian-python-users out there?

:-)

Johann.

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Printer question

1997-07-05 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi,

I have an old bubble jet BJ-10SX cannon printer. 
I have just set up lprng and magicfilter. I can print but only text . 
I am not very sure as to how to incorporate the filter in /etc/printcap
I have triad the if statement and it didn't work.
( :if=\usr\sbin\magicfilter:\ ) I would be grateful if
someone could send me their printcap file to see how it is done. Also I
would like o know the
appropriate name e.t.c. for my printer. Any help will be much appreciated 
   Thanks
   George  



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Re: emacs won't install if /usr/local is read-only

1997-07-05 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 4 Jul 1997, Linh Dang wrote:

> 1.2.8 and 1.3 exhitbit the same behaviour!!!
> 
> My /usr/local mounted read-only when I install emacs. The package keep
> complaining about /usr/local is mounted read-only.

This is a bug, so please file a bug report against emacs.

The policy concerning /usr/local has been changed. The package may create
empty directories below /usr/local, but it must not fail if this is
impossible (because /usr/local is mounted read-only).

This new policy already described in the draft version 2.2.0.0, which will
become "official" in the next few days. You can have a look at it via

http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-policy/draft/ch3.html#s3.1

Feel free to ask, if you need more info.


Thanks,

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Re: ncurses3.4

1997-07-05 Thread Carey Evans
"Kevin M. Bealer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[snip]

> Also, installing this packages causes dselect to get really excited
> about dependencies, since everything wants the old libreadline, and
> the new one doesn't want to coexist.  What is the solution to this
> sort of thing?  For now, I have left the new one installed, 
> deselected it, and stopped upgrading for a bit, but "bc" doesn't
> run yet.

Get the new, old libreadline2 from the same place as libreadlineg2:

C-u M-! dpkg -l 'libreadline*'

Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
un  libreadline  (no description available)
un  libreadline-dev  (no description available)
ii  libreadline22.1-2.1GNU readline and history libraries, run-time
pn  libreadline2-de  (no description available)
ii  libreadlineg2   2.1-2.1GNU readline and history libraries, run-time
ii  libreadlineg2-d 2.1-2.1GNU readline and history libraries, developm

> (so I use python to do arithmetic.)

:-) I'd be using Perl, or maybe the XEmacs *scratch* buffer.  One of
these days I'll work out how to use metafont for this.

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Re: libc5

1997-07-05 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Hi Jesse,

I think the reason for this might be that the 'real' C library in
unstable is glibc-2, aka libc-6. It's the latest GNU C library with many
new things I don't have the slightest idea of ;-)

Fun,

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Re: XFree86 3.3 can't find fixed font

1997-07-05 Thread ninjaz
Thanks for the blazing fast response. :)  Tried that to no avail (using
accelx 3.1 and the SVGA server from 3.2 - just noticed I had that package
on hold as I was using accelx)..  after downloading the SVGA server from
xfree86 3.3, things are working again.

On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Jesse Goldman wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> This happened to me too once. Try running "mkfontdir" in the affected
> directories. If it's the same problem I had, that will fix it.
> 
> J. Goldman
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Re: questions about new releases

1997-07-05 Thread Jaakko Niemi
>> On Jul 4, Jaakko Niemi wrote
>> > [...] It would be though nice to have debianized
>> >  packages of pentium-optimize pieces in (let's say) "unstable-pentium"
>> 
>> Wouldn't that be "binary-pentium"? (As well as there are binary-i386, etc)

 Ahh! Yes! That's the kind of error that can only happen at 4 AM.

 From my experience there would be (in addition to stable and unstable) also
 section called very-unstable. :) I couldn't get anything compile cleanly with 
pgcc.
 Though almost all I know about compiling is to how type "make". :)

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Re: XFree86 3.3 can't find fixed font

1997-07-05 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hi,

This happened to me too once. Try running "mkfontdir" in the affected
directories. If it's the same problem I had, that will fix it.

J. Goldman


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libc5

1997-07-05 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hi,

Someone just pointed out to me that the version of libc5 in "stable" is 
5.4.33-3 while the version in "unstable" is 5.4.23-4. Does anyone know why
this might be? Thanks...

J. Goldman


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XFree86 3.3 can't find fixed font

1997-07-05 Thread ninjaz
After upgrading to Xfree86 3.3 today, X does not complete startup, and
exits with the error:

failed to set default font path
'/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/AcceleratedX/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/'
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

Any resolution to this?   I have talked to a few people on irc who said
this has happened to them after upgrading to 3.3, also. 



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Re: Where can I download Netscape from?

1997-07-05 Thread Chad D. Zimmerman
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:

> 
> I am trying to install netscape-3.01-4 package, but I need a copy of the
> original netscape distribution.  I tried finding it via the netscape
> web page but couldn't find a mention of linux anywhere.  
> 
> Does anyone know where I can download it from?
> 
> Thanks.

ftp://ftp20.netscape.com/pub/navigator/3.01/unix/

The linux destrib is there

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Re: Where can I download Netscape from?

1997-07-05 Thread Alex Yukhimets
> 
> I am trying to install netscape-3.01-4 package, but I need a copy of the
> original netscape distribution.  I tried finding it via the netscape
> web page but couldn't find a mention of linux anywhere.  
> 
> Does anyone know where I can download it from?
> 
> Thanks.
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ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/navigator/3.01/unix/
and get 
netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz

Enjoy!

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Where can I download Netscape from?

1997-07-05 Thread Mark Phillips

I am trying to install netscape-3.01-4 package, but I need a copy of the
original netscape distribution.  I tried finding it via the netscape
web page but couldn't find a mention of linux anywhere.  

Does anyone know where I can download it from?

Thanks.

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Re: emacs won't install if /usr/local is read-only

1997-07-05 Thread Hong Huang



On 5 Jul 1997, Mark Eichin wrote:

> what needs a review are the outstanding inconsistencies between dpkg
> and the policy guide. (The guide should of course win :-)  I
> understand Klee has put some effort into this though probably hasn't
> gotten around to this particular one; the simple approach is for the
> installer to tell dpkg "/usr/local is off-limits" and dpkg can then
> just drop anything that would go there.  [This feature should be
> somewhat general; it could be used to some extent to terminate the
> info vs. html vs. stone tablets (:-) thread...]
> 

I don't see any need to post that restriction on dpkg. dpkg is just a
package management tool. It should be able to install files to wherever
you tell it to.

I build my own versions of xemacs, mc, asclock, xbuffy debian packages
with destination in "/usr/local", and use dpkg to install, remove, upgrade
them. I found dpkg not only a powerful tool to manage the officail debian
packages, but also a very useful tool to manage my own packages in
/usr/local. It would be a SAD thing if some features of dpkg were 
removed.

If some official debian packages try to install files in /usr/local 
(causing the so-called inconsistencies between dpkg and the policy guide),
You can simply file bug reports against them. I don't think that's a big
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Re: ncurses3.4

1997-07-05 Thread Kevin M. Bealer
Peter Mutsaers wrote:
>I see a lot of packages appearing in unstable that depend on
>ncurses3.4. But no packages providing it is available (only
>ncurses3.0).
>
>Can anyone tell me where I can get ncurses3.4?
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You can get it from ftp.i-connect.com, in Incoming, and info, et al
will run again.



On a similar note, the package libreadlineg2 is wanted by both
bc and dc, and maybe others.  I have installed the package (from
i-connect) but the programs still seg-fault.

Also, installing this packages causes dselect to get really excited
about dependencies, since everything wants the old libreadline, and
the new one doesn't want to coexist.  What is the solution to this
sort of thing?  For now, I have left the new one installed, 
deselected it, and stopped upgrading for a bit, but "bc" doesn't
run yet.  (so I use python to do arithmetic.)


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ncurses3.4

1997-07-05 Thread Peter Mutsaers
I see a lot of packages appearing in unstable that depend on
ncurses3.4. But no packages providing it is available (only
ncurses3.0).

Can anyone tell me where I can get ncurses3.4?

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Toshiba laptop install: can't get X or mouse to work

1997-07-05 Thread Mark Phillips

Hi,

I am trying to install Debian on a Toshiba 410CS laptop.  I am having
problems creating a XF86Config file which will work.  It complains that
there is no mode "800x600" or something like that.  But in the setup
I specified this as one of the modes.  Any ideas?

The second problem is that the mouse doesn't work.  The documentation
seems to suggest that it is a PS/2 mouse.  Can anyone confirm this?
But I don't know whether this is a serial or bus mouse.  And I don't
know what dev file to use.  I tried /dev/ttyS0 but this doesn't
seem to work.  Any ideas?

Thanks.

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Re: Multiple partitinos

1997-07-05 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

> Ok.  I'm experimenting with moving from 1 huge disk partition to a few
> smaller ones,  particarly /,  /var,  /usr,  and /home.
> 
> The thing is:  the root systems's suppsed tobe in /,  so the system can
> boot if anything else's screwed up.  but mine won't boot unless I also
> mount /var ...somthing about _sumtp or something being screwed up.

I made my system the following way:
1) complete base system install on a single root partition.
2) copy /var to /usr/var
3) wipe /var and sym link /var to usr/var (I think I used relative paths)
4) formated and mounted future /usr at /mnt
5) cp -av /usr/* /mnt/
6) umount /mnt, mounted /usr partition over /'s usr

This gives me an emergency /usr and /var on my / filesystem that isn't too
big.  I think I can boot without my /usr partition, but I haven't tested
it.  You may want to try the following at the lilo prompt:
 "linux emergency" or "linux single"
I'm not sure if emergency will bypass the boot up scripts.  It would
probably be helpful if you posted the exact error message to the list and
where in the boot up process you were.

HTH,
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Re: emacs won't install if /usr/local is read-only

1997-07-05 Thread Mark Eichin
what needs a review are the outstanding inconsistencies between dpkg
and the policy guide. (The guide should of course win :-)  I
understand Klee has put some effort into this though probably hasn't
gotten around to this particular one; the simple approach is for the
installer to tell dpkg "/usr/local is off-limits" and dpkg can then
just drop anything that would go there.  [This feature should be
somewhat general; it could be used to some extent to terminate the
info vs. html vs. stone tablets (:-) thread...]


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Re: questions about new releases

1997-07-05 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Lalo Martins wrote:

> On Jul 4, Jaakko Niemi wrote
> > [...] It would be though nice to have debianized
> >  packages of pentium-optimize pieces in (let's say) "unstable-pentium"
> 
> Wouldn't that be "binary-pentium"? (As well as there are binary-i386, etc)

Or binary-i586, but the real problem is that debian can't be optimized for
every system without making a lot of trouble for the maintainers, mirror
operators, cd makers, etc.  Maybe after the diety project has got a
finished product, we can add a feature for easily recompiling the source.

If we decide to follow the second distribution as a short term solution, 
we need to look into  mirror space and maintainer acceptance (not to
mention a check that no maintainers are using 486's).

So many things to do, so few developers to do them. 
 (new slogan for "Work-Needing and Prospective Packages"? :-)

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Multiple partitinos

1997-07-05 Thread Will Lowe
Ok.  I'm experimenting with moving from 1 huge disk partition to a few
smaller ones,  particarly /,  /var,  /usr,  and /home.

The thing is:  the root systems's suppsed tobe in /,  so the system can
boot if anything else's screwed up.  but mine won't boot unless I also
mount /var ...somthing about _sumtp or something being screwed up.

Will

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Re: questions about new releases

1997-07-05 Thread Lalo Martins
On Jul 4, Jaakko Niemi wrote
> [...] It would be though nice to have debianized
>  packages of pentium-optimize pieces in (let's say) "unstable-pentium"

Wouldn't that be "binary-pentium"? (As well as there are binary-i386, etc)

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Re: emacs won't install if /usr/local is read-only

1997-07-05 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, James R. Van Zandt wrote:

> >My /usr/local mounted read-only when I install emacs. The package keep
> >complaining about /usr/local is mounted read-only.
> 
> packages are not allowed to store files into /usr/local.  However, the
> emacs package is installing only directories:
> 
> $ dpkg -L emacs|grep local
> /usr/local
> /usr/local/lib
> /usr/local/lib/emacs
> /usr/local/lib/emacs/site-lisp   
> 
> I believe that's okay.

Technically, I think you're right.  However, this effectively means
that /usr/local is forbidden to be mounted read-only on debian
systems -- at least during package installs.  Perhaps the debian
policy on this needs a review. (??)

FSSTND-1.2 says that /usr/local must be empty after the initial
Linux install, except for the subdirectories bin, doc, etc, games,
lib, man, sbin, and src.  I infer that these subdirs may optionally
exist or not exist after initial Linux install.

The Debian policy.text.gz file, version 2.1.3.3, requires that
packages which search "... a number of directories or files for
something" should also search "... an appropriate directory in
/usr/local" (but doesn't specify the order of search.  I'm not
sure I understand this requirement), and also requires that packages
should create empty directories in the /usr/local tree, "In order
that the system administrator may know where to place additional
files." This last requirement, of course, is incompitable with having
a read-only /usr/local filesystem during package installs.


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Re: mc problem

1997-07-05 Thread Lindsay Allen

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Paul Seelig wrote:

> Hi Lindsay!
> 
> Too bad you didn't reply via debian-user! Please be so kind and post a
> followup containing the solution so that others learn it too.

Point taken.

 
> On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Lindsay Allen wrote:
> > On /debian/bo/binary-i386/admin/acct_6.2-4.deb I get :-
> >
> > /.. 2048
> > /CONTENTS  0
> >  INFO   1206
> > *INSTALL 515
> > 
> > and it's the same story for all .deb files.
> >
> Yes, that is quite normal and makes me wonder what is the problem!? 
> Just go further on and enter the "./CONTENTS" subdirectory where you
> will find what you have been searching for. If you press enter on
> "*INSTALL" dpkg will install the package for you. I do this all the
> time like this! ;-)

Not so fast.When I hit Enter on /CONTENTS I get
  /..0

and that's it.


> > Maybe you mail me the bare binary of mc-4?  I don't think that would help
> > as I just compiled from scratch.  I'm at a bit of a loss.  I really like
> > mc and have lots of time for the authors.  If you happen to have made
> > mc_4.x.y.deb I _would_ like a copy of that!
> >
> You can download an *unofficial* Debian binary (which i provided :)
> from the MC homepage and the usual MC FTP sites. The sourcecode
> containing the Debian specific config files can be downloaded from
> "ftp://ietpd1.sowi.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian/unofficial/sources/";. There
> is some other stuff as well.
>Cheers, P. *8^)
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>Our AMA Homepage  in  the WWW at  http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/

Thanks to Paul, Dale, David and Dimitri for your help.  I certainly
understand things better now and it seems that the problem is not in mc at
all.  I just wiped every mc related file from my box and installed Paul's
mc_4.0-linux-1_i386.deb and it behaves in exactly the same way.  There is
a lot of disk activity when I hit Enter on a .deb so I think the file is
being opened.  I just don't get to see the result. 

Lindsay


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Re: ideas: tutorial and mail filter

1997-07-05 Thread Alexander Kjeldaas


On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote:

> I was thinking about two ideas that may help Debian and general linux
> systems:
> 
>   1) How about a simple tutorial that comes up after installing debian.
> Something that would offer 3 steps: 1. a general linux tutor for those
> people who are completely new, 2. a sys admin tutor for those who haven't
> had to admin before, and 3. a debian tutor explaining dselect, dpkg, the
> filesystem layout, features, etc.
>   I would be nice if this could be e-mailed, printed (for pamplets to go
> with cd's along the the install notes), easily exported to the web, and
> automatically come up when a new user logs in (maybe something like: for
> help using linux or debian, type "tutor" (or maybe "learn", "help" was
> already taken) implemented by cating an /etc/README.newuser from the
> .profile, .bash_profile, or .bashrc).
>   If I'm reinventing the wheel, if someone want's to do this, if someone
> wants to help me, or if you would find this helpful or needed on a debian
> system, let me know.

If the debian-system comes witht the kde desktop (when it's released), the
help-system in kde which supports HTML, info and man-pages could show the
tutorials and contain links to other sites. It would be somewhat like the
default CDE login desktop. 

astor



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Re: GS mode for Epson Stylus Color 800 ???

1997-07-05 Thread Anthony Fok
On 4 Jul 1997, Andy Spiegl wrote:
> 
> I just recently got my new printer.  It was easy to set up the
> magicfilter so that I can print anything I want.  But the highest
> resolution I got was 360x180.  Like this:
>  /usr/bin/gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r360x180 -sDEVICE=epsonc

Check out /usr/doc/gs/devices.txt.gz.  ^_^  There is a driver for
EPSON Stylus printers.  Although it was written for older models, it works
on my EPSON Stylus COLOR 500 too.  :)  For example, I use the following
command for the Postscript filter (magicfilter):

  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r360x360 -sDEVICE=stcolor \
  -dColorAdjustMatrix="{1.0 0.0 0.0 0.8 0.0 1.0 0.0 0.8 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.8 -0.5 
-0.5 -0.5 1.0}" \
  -sDithering="fscmyk" -sOutputCode=runlength -sOutputFile=- stc500pl.ps -

for the past few days.  Some great people on debian-user listed a link to
information about EPSON Stylus on Linux, from which I found another link
specifically about the Stylus COLOR 500, so I copied all the extra options
like -dColorAdjustMatrix and got the file "stc500pl.ps", a drop in
replacement for "stcolor.ps" from Ghostscript 4.03 for SC500.  :)  These
fix the minor colour and bleeding problems which occurs when using
"stcolor.ps", which is for older models.  ^_^  Check out:

Epson Color Stylus 500, Ghostscript, and Linux
http://www.pe.net/~williams/Stylus/Stylus.html

Anyway, if you are only printing black and white with your SC800, the
following would work fine.  Colour is okay too but might be too dark.
Play with other options.  Oh, almost forgot: stcolor in GS 4.03 supports
up to 720 dpi, not 1440 dpi.

  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r360x360 -sDEVICE=stcolor \
  -sOutputFile=-

Anyway, I couldn't wait to try Ghostscript 5.01, so I finally managed to
compile it this morning.  It comes with uniprint, the new
"Ugly- -> Updated- -> Unified-Printer-Driver".  ^_^  It is an update of
stcolor, but much more versatile and is intended to become THE unified
printer driver.  :)  Anyway, it comes with a set of configurations for
Stylus COLOR printers, including the 500, 600 and 800.  So, in my
magicfilter config, I am now using:

   /usr/bin/gs  -q @stc500p.upp -sOutputFile=- -

for printing at 360dpi.  For SC800,

stc800pl - Epson Stylus Color 800, 360DpI, 32Bit-CMYK, 64 Pin, plain paper
stc800p  - Epson Stylus Color 800, 720DpI, 32Bit-CMYK, 64 Pin, plain paper
stc800ih - Epson Stylus Color 800, 1440DpI 32Bit-CMYK, 62 Pin, inkjet paper?

So, when GS 5.01 is Debianized, your colour printout might look better.
Wait and see.  :)

> If I write anything higher than that, like -r360x360 or so, the
> printer output is distorted or completely garbled.  So I am wondering
> whether it's at all possible to get it to print at a higher resolution.
> The printer supports up to 1440x1440.

The epsonc printer driver is for Epson LQ-2550 and Fujitsu 3400/2400/1200
color printers, i.e. dot matrix colour printers, I guess.  :)  They
probably also use ESC/P or ESC/P2 for printing, so they worked at lower
resolutions for the EPSON Stylus, I guess.  :)

BTW, isn't Stylus COLOR 600/800 max resolution 1440x720 dpi?  :)

Anthony

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Re: epson Stylus 600

1997-07-05 Thread Anthony Fok
Hello Phil!  :)

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Philippe Troin wrote:

> I've got a postscript initialization file to feed gs to correct colors
> for Stylus-500. Just in case you're interested :-) 

Thanks!  :)  A while after I wrote that message, I read Andree
Leidenfrost's message about Stylus, and decided to check out the link he
provided, and soon I found stc500pl.ps and the -dColorAdjustMatrix="{}" 
settings for SC500 in .  Is that the
same file that you have?  :)

Thanks for the note!  :)

Anthony

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HELP!!! dpkg messed up X11 (?)

1997-07-05 Thread Reto Andreas Bachmann
Need Your Help:

I was downloading some packages from "stable" so that
I could try to build a custom kernel. While I was 
downloading and installing (with dpkg), I got bored
and wanted to play maelstrom - but mealstrom refused 
to start, same for xtetris. Then dpkg reported it was
having problems installing packages. Now,
I cannot even start X - after logging in via xdm I 
simply get back the xdm login screen.

Luckily, I saved some of the error messages before everything came
down:



# xman&
[2] 1429
# xman: can't load library 'libXaw.so.6'
[2]+  Exit 16 xman

$ xtetris&
[4] 1359
$ xtetris: can't load library 'libXaw.so.6'
[4]+  Exit 16 xtetris

# find / -name libXaw.so.*
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6.1
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6


$ maelstrom&
[5] 1363
$ maelstrom: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4'
[5]+  Exit 16 maelstrom

# find / -name libXpm.so*
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4.7

--

# dpkg -i tcl76_7.6p2-4.deb
(Reading database ... 13814 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace tcl76 7.6p2-4 (using tcl76_7.6p2-4.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement tcl76 ...
Setting up tcl76 (7.6p2-4) ...
Checking available versions of tclsh, updating links in
/etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
Leaving tclsh (/usr/bin/tclsh) pointing to /usr/bin/tclsh7.6.
Leaving tclsh.1 (/usr/man/man1/tclsh.1.gz) pointing to
/usr/man/man1/tclsh7.6.1.gz.
/sbin/ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/usr/lib/libc5-compat
(No such file or directory), skipping
/sbin/ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libc.so (No such file or
directory), skipping
/sbin/ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or
directory), skipping


# ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/usr
ls: /usr/X11R6/lib/usr: No such file or directory

# ls -l /usr/lib/libc.so
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   19 Mar 25 19:59 /usr/lib/libc.so
-> /lib/libc.so.5.4.20
# ls -l /usr/lib/libm.so
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 Mar 25 19:59 /usr/lib/libm.so
-> /lib/libm.so.5.0.7

===

I think the whole mess started when dpkg aborted the
installation of some libc5 package -
any help and suggestions are very welcome - until this
is fixed I'll be reduced to Windows 95 (arrrg)!

  Reto


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Xwindows

1997-07-05 Thread jsa
I'm trying to install the Debian Xwindows package for the
first time on my computer.  I installed Xbase first, then installed
Xserver-SVGA in a separate dselect session.  When Xwindows starts I get
a Xwindow screen with the default xterm window.  In attempting to trace
the Xwindow initialization process I found that initrc is linked to 
/etc/X11/Xsession , but the file /etc/X11/Xsession does not exist!  I
have tried removing and then reloading Xbase a couple of times, but
still no Xsession file.  Am I looking for it in the wrong package?  Or
maybe this isn't the problem, and I'm barking up the wrong tree?

Thanks in advance!

Jess Stryker


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