2 CPU machines

1997-09-19 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hi,

I've just put Debian 2.0.30 with version 6 of the deadlock patch on a new
2 CPU machine. The messages file tells me that the two CPUs were
initialized OK and that the machine is running roughly at 400 MHz. If I
run bogomips, however, I still get out 198 MHz. I'm guessing that
bogomips is not designed for 2 CPU machines. Is that right and, if so, how
would I find out on the fly how fast the machine really is going? 
Thanks

J. Goldman


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Re: Incoming PPP question - subnetting

1997-09-19 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Kevin Traas wrote:
 
  Hmmm. What's the netmask on the ethernet interface? If it's set to
 255.255.255.224 then everything should work fine even though
 
 Yes, it is.

Then NT's routing algorithm is wrong or there are other routes afoot.
Run netstat -r on the NT box to verify that the routes to the 
ethernet interface have 255.255.255.224 as the netmask.
 
 the NT box sets 255.255.255.0 on the PPP link. This is because the
 routing algorithm chooses the route with the most matching bits (that
 is, the one with the longest netmask). Let me know.
 
 Interesting thought.  I'll give this a try.
 
 I've got things working right now by setting up the PPP connection and then
 manually setting routes on each end.  However, if I can automate this, that
 would be great.
 
 With your msg above, I may not have to make any changes on the NT dialin
 box/router.  I'll let you know.
 
 On this subject, though  Right now, the NT box dials into the modem pool
 via PPP.  Is there any way I can have the Linux box (PPP server) setup a
 static route to the NT subnet at the time the NT box dials in?  (I could set
 up a script running in the background with a sleep 60 or so  that looks to
 see who's logged in and configures the routing table based on that, but this
 would be quite a hack - there's got to be a better way)

Sure, you can give pppd the path to an ip-up and an ip-down
script which will be called when the connection comes up. 

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quota bug ?

1997-09-19 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi,

I have just installed  the quota utility on my system. 
I did everything by the book but when I would run quota as a user it would
say Disk quotas for ... : None . I checked and rechecked everything but it
didn't help. I  run  quotacehk
about 2 times and also /etc/init.d/quota start . Then I rebooted and it
worked fine. I thought that /etc/fstab can be read immediatelly after it
is written and no deamon needs to be restarted . I guess I am wrong.

Any ideas ?
  Thanks 
   George 


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Re: setuid root CGI's - how bad it is?

1997-09-19 Thread Ralph Winslow
Eloy A. Paris wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 (sorry for the off-topic question but I don't know where to ask)
 
 Excuse my ignorance but how bad is it to have a setuid CGI script?

If you insist on a script, a perl script written by a knowledgeable and
paranoid programmer could be safe.  A C program written by a bozo would
be less safe.  There are probably programmers who could create a not too
dangerous cgi in sh, though not safe, at least in standard linux.  In
short if the creator of the script is knowledgeable about the attacks
that might occur, the resultant cgi will be safe, but if the cgi creator
doesn't have a clue, the cgi will not be safe no matter what it's
written in.

 I know there should be big security issues with this but I don't
 know what it is.
 
 I have a CGI script that needs to write files in a user's home directory.
 How can I do that?
 
 Thanks and my apologies for being off-topic again.
 
 E.-
 
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 Information Technology Department
 Rockwell Automation de Venezuela
 Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645
 
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Re: ESS vs SB16 sound cards?

1997-09-19 Thread Dima
 Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
  
   With the ESS 16-bit sound cards about $20 cheaper than the SB16 stuff, 
  I'd consider getting one. How good is the ESS support under Linux?

ESS are supported by SB16 driver.  They don't sound too well, especially
midi, but I suspect SB16 won't sound much better.

 How 
  about DOS? (I'd like 16-bit sound for the few DOS games I play, and so 
  far as I know the ESS cards are only compatible with the (8-bit) SB Pro.

Depends.  Some games worked when I selected SB16, some didn't.  Sorry,
I can't be more specific, but I haven't touched any DOS games recently.

   Does anyone have any info or recommendations? Thanks!

Also, ESS cards are PnP (at least the ones I've seen) so you'll need 
isapnp tools.

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Linux floppy disk problem

1997-09-19 Thread Jon Forsberg
I'm trying to install Debian Linux 1.3.1 and everything works fine until
I try
to make a boot disk from the install menu. The installation program
prompts me to insert a blank floppy in the drive and I do so and press
enter.
The installation program then tries to format the disk and almost
immediately exits with the following messages:

Verifying track 0, head 0 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17

Verifying track 0, head 1 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 32
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 32

Verifying track 0, head 0 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17

Verifying track 0, head 1 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 32
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 32

It doesn't matter which disk I use, it gives the exact same messages. I
have tried with different floppy
disks, reformatted them in DOS and Minix first (no errors when
formatting there) but it doesn't help.

I have configured my system according to the instructions in install.txt
(disabled Shadow Ram etc.)

I haven't tried with a new blank non DOS/Minix -formatted disk yet,
would it
make any difference?


Thanks for any help since I really want to get Linux working.

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Debian packages for Linux 2.1.x necessary software?

1997-09-19 Thread Arthur Jerijian
Hi,

Are there any Debian packages available for the necessary software in
order to get Linux 2.1.x running?  I don't want to mess up my system's
dependency structure just to do something like, say, upgrading libc from
the original tarball.

Thanks!

--Arthur


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Re: ESS vs SB16 sound cards?

1997-09-19 Thread Mark Plaksin
 RAI == Raymond A Ingles Raymond writes:

RAI  With the ESS 16-bit sound cards about $20 cheaper than the SB16
RAI stuff, I'd consider getting one. How good is the ESS support under
RAI Linux? How about DOS? (I'd like 16-bit sound for the few DOS games I
RAI play, and so far as I know the ESS cards are only compatible with the
RAI (8-bit) SB Pro.

RAI  Does anyone have any info or recommendations? Thanks!

Hi,

By ESS I'm assuming you mean Ensoniq SoundScape.

I have one and like it.  I only run Linux so I can't help much there; the
docs say that most games support it 16-bit.

Some of the mixer controls on the card are different from SB.  That makes
it a bit challenging to use under Linux.  For example, the MIDI mixer
interface is propritary.  Last time I checked, unless you buy the
commercial version of the Linux sound driver, you can't mix MIDI.

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Re: Debian ppp server how-to?

1997-09-19 Thread dada
Carey Evans wrote:
 
 dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Yes...my modem works fine...i use linux to connecting to internet.
 
 Well if mgetty's working right, you should see something like:
 
 dialout  ttyS0/usr/sbin/pppd f Tue Sep 16 23:13 - 23:20  (00:07)
 
 in the output of `last -20' if you dialout with the same modem
 (ttyS0/COM1 in this case) you will have users connecting on.  Does
 this happen?
 
  I think that mgetyy answerbut it return me an TIO errorwhat's
  that error?
 
 I haven't come across that one - what does the error message say?
 
 What do you get in /var/log/mgetty/mg_ttyS0.log?  You should see
 something like:
 
 09/18 19:01:47 yS0  mgetty: experimental test release 1.1.2-Feb20
 09/18 19:24:41 # data dev=ttyS0, pid=15577, caller=none, 
 conn='14400/V42BIS', name='', cmd='/usr/sbin/pppd', user='/AutoPPP/'
 
 if it's working right (and you have the same amount of logging as me).
 /var/log/ppp.log should then be something like:
 
 Sep 18 19:24:41 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
 Sep 18 19:24:41 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: Using interface ppp1
 Sep 18 19:24:41 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: Connect: ppp1 -- /dev/ttyS0
 Sep 18 19:24:44 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: user carey logged in
 Sep 18 19:24:44 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: local  IP address 192.168.17.35
 Sep 18 19:24:44 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: remote IP address 192.168.17.160
 Sep 18 19:24:44 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: found interface eth0 for proxy arp
 
  When an user intent log in, the modem answer but then hang and
  disconnect...thus nobody can login.
 
 Can they get a shell login by just dialing the number from minicom (or
 hyperterminal on Win95)?
 
 Also check /var/log/auth.log to see if there are problems with
 passwords or something.
 


Hi Carey.here is attached my mg_ttyS1.log.

Now the user can log in,,, but which is IP address that client must put
in his Netscape to see pages in my Apache server?.
--
09/18 14:50:45 yS1  mgetty: experimental test release 1.1.2-Feb20
09/18 14:50:45 yS1  check for lockfiles
09/18 14:50:45 yS1  locking the line
09/18 14:50:45 yS1  lowering DTR to reset Modem
09/18 14:50:46 yS1  send: \dATQ0V1H0[0d]
09/18 14:50:46 yS1  waiting for ``OK'' ** found **
09/18 14:50:47 yS1  send: AT[0d]
09/18 14:50:47 yS1  waiting for ``OK'' ** found **
09/18 14:50:47 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FCLASS=2.0' - ERROR
09/18 14:50:47 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FCLASS=2' - OK
09/18 14:50:47 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FCLASS=0' - OK
09/18 14:50:47 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FAA=1;+FCR=1' - OK
09/18 14:50:47 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FBOR=0' - OK
09/18 14:50:47 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FLID=' - OK
09/18 14:50:47 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FDCC=1,5,0,2,0,0,0,0' - OK
09/18 14:50:47 yS1  waiting...
09/18 15:11:53 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
09/18 15:11:53 yS1  send: ATA[0d]
09/18 15:11:53 yS1  waiting for ``CONNECT'' ** found **
09/18 15:12:08 yS1  send: 
09/18 15:12:08 yS1  waiting for ``
'' ** found **
09/18 15:12:37 # data dev=ttyS1, pid=201, caller=none, conn='38400', 
name='', cmd='/bin/login', user='guest'

--
09/18 15:13:44 yS1  mgetty: experimental test release 1.1.2-Feb20
09/18 15:13:44 yS1  check for lockfiles
09/18 15:13:44 yS1  locking the line
09/18 15:13:44 yS1  lowering DTR to reset Modem
09/18 15:13:45 yS1  send: \dATQ0V1H0[0d]
09/18 15:13:45 yS1  waiting for ``OK'' ** found **
09/18 15:13:46 yS1  send: AT[0d]
09/18 15:13:46 yS1  waiting for ``OK'' ** found **
09/18 15:13:46 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FCLASS=2.0' - ERROR
09/18 15:13:46 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FCLASS=2' - OK
09/18 15:13:46 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FCLASS=0' - OK
09/18 15:13:46 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FAA=1;+FCR=1' - OK
09/18 15:13:46 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FBOR=0' - OK
09/18 15:13:46 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FLID=' - OK
09/18 15:13:46 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FDCC=1,5,0,2,0,0,0,0' - OK
09/18 15:13:46 yS1  waiting...
09/18 15:13:59 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
09/18 15:13:59 yS1  send: ATA[0d]
09/18 15:13:59 yS1  waiting for ``CONNECT'' ** found **
09/18 15:14:14 yS1  send: 
09/18 15:14:14 yS1  waiting for ``
'' ** found **
09/18 15:14:37 # data dev=ttyS1, pid=389, caller=none, conn='38400', 
name='', cmd='/bin/login', user='pap'

--
09/18 15:16:48 yS1  mgetty: experimental test release 1.1.2-Feb20
09/18 15:16:48 yS1  check for lockfiles
09/18 15:16:48 yS1  locking the line
09/18 15:16:48 yS1  lowering DTR to reset Modem
09/18 15:16:49 yS1  send: \dATQ0V1H0[0d]
09/18 15:16:49 yS1  waiting for ``OK'' ** found **
09/18 15:16:50 yS1  send: AT[0d]
09/18 15:16:50 yS1  waiting for ``OK'' ** found **
09/18 15:16:50 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FCLASS=2.0' - ERROR
09/18 15:16:50 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FCLASS=2' - OK
09/18 15:16:50 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FCLASS=0' - OK
09/18 15:16:50 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FAA=1;+FCR=1' - OK
09/18 15:16:50 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FBOR=0' - OK
09/18 15:16:50 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FLID=' - OK
09/18 15:16:50 yS1  mdm_send: 'AT+FDCC=1,5,0,2,0,0,0,0' - OK
09/18 15:16:50 yS1  waiting...
09/18 15:18:59 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
09/18 15:18:59 yS1  send: ATA[0d]
09/18 15:18:59 yS1  waiting for 

Re: reading mail with gnus

1997-09-19 Thread Mark Plaksin
 MOdM == Mario Olimpio de Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

MOdM Hi,

MOdM   I'm trying to set gnus to manage email with split methods.  Using
MOdM XEmacs I was able to configure the methods but I couldn't find how to
MOdM have the e-mails shown in the screen.  Is there some tutorial/howto
MOdM to do this? Can someone help me with a step-by-step guide?  Thanks,

Hi,

Have you subscribed to the mail groups created by the split methods?  You
must do that before you'll see the mail.

If you're using nnfolder like me, then from the group buffer try this:

S s nnfolder:name-of-mail-group

(Tab-completion works there, I think.)

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Re: 2 CPU machines

1997-09-19 Thread Stephen P. Ryan
--- Jesse Goldman wrote:
I've just put Debian 2.0.30 with version 6 of the deadlock patch on a new
2 CPU machine. The messages file tells me that the two CPUs were
initialized OK and that the machine is running roughly at 400 MHz. If I
run bogomips, however, I still get out 198 MHz. I'm guessing that
bogomips is not designed for 2 CPU machines. Is that right and, if so, how
would I find out on the fly how fast the machine really is going? 
Thanks
--- end of quote ---
You are getting the correct results.  BogoMIPS is the result of a single timing
loop, which will only execute on one processor.  The other number is actually
the sum of the BogoMIPS numbers for each processor.  Try cat /proc/cpuinfo to
see info on both CPU's.  There is also a kernel patch at
http://www-isia.cma.fr/~forissie/smp_kernel_patch/ which will allow patched
versions of top and xosview (and maybe other programs, if they support this) to
show you what each CPU is doing, and how fast.  This will also provide
additional information on each CPU in the /proc hierarchy.  However, the 2.0.x
kernels have a known bug which makes it very difficult to find out which CPU is
doing what (the second CPU is reported as all system time, and no user time). 
You can also use top, which will report the sum of the two cpu's efforts. 
See the recent thread on top doesn't understand multiple processors for more
info.

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Re: setuid root CGI's - how bad it is?

1997-09-19 Thread Jason Costomiris
On Thu, Sep 18, 1997 at 03:45:17PM -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote:
: If that's all you want, it's easy.  Do this:
: 
: 1) Authenticate the user against the system's /etc/passwd.
: 
: OK, my script is doing this. The user can enter his login ID and his
: password through a HTML form and the CGI script validates the user against
: /etc/passwd making sure the UID of the users is = 1000.
: 
: 2) Use Apache's suEXEC module to run the CGI under the user's UID, 
:after authenticating the user.
: 
: This sounds like the solution but where can I find this module? It is not
: part of the apache-modules package.

It's part of Apache 1.2 feature set..  See:

http://www.apache.org/docs/suexec.html

for more info...

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awe-drv package

1997-09-19 Thread kestrel
I think something has changed since I last used the awe-* packages.
I am runing the install.sh like instructed but even after that I am not
getting any prompt about awe32 support in low-level on sound.
Any ideas why not or if I can just add the line to the .config file
manually? (and if so how its worded).
Also I use isapnp since I have a PnP card and no PnP bios, does this mean
sound should be compiled as a module so the awe drivers get loaded after
isapnp runs?

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Re: How many modems ?

1997-09-19 Thread Kevin Traas
How many modems can attach to my computer controlled by linux?

How many do you want?  Seriously!

You are only limited by the number of serial ports you can get into your
box.  So, anywhere from 4 to 128 are common using Boca BB2016, Digiboards,
RocketPorts, etc.

(However, if you're looking for quite a number of dialin lines, a modem
server such as the Livingston PortMaster III might be more what you're
looking for.  It's a much better option than a whole swack of modems
sitting on a shelf.  See http://www.livingston.com for more info.)

Later,

Kevin Traas   Baan Business Systems
Systems Analyst  Langley, BC, Canada
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Re: Debian print server

1997-09-19 Thread Bruce Perens
So, if you telnet localhost 515 on your system, does it get a connection?
That's what I was using to see if anything answered on the port.

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: linux and windoz

1997-09-19 Thread Bruce Perens
Willows TWIN emulation works well for 16-bit programs, doesn't work at
all for 32. If you have the source for the MS windows program, even a
32-bit one, you can re-compile the application on Linux with a Willows
library so that it is a native X program, that works a lot better than
emulation.

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SOCKS proxy with win95 clients

1997-09-19 Thread Bujtar Janos
Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote:
 
 The original message was received at Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:05:37 +0200
 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [195.228.69.33]
 
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hello !
 
 DOes anyone use SOCKS 4.2beta with w95 clients
 
 How can I set up Netscape or M$ explorer to work with SOCKS proxy??
 
 THNX!
 
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pcmcia/linux2.030 kernel and new problem

1997-09-19 Thread Marc Fleureck

The new kernel 2.0.30 boots ! Thanks for all the tips. Card Services
2.9.5 starts and recognizes the card  ! but .. with another error
from cardmgr: 

Loading failed ! The module symbols 
 (from linux_2.0.30) don't match your linux_2.0.30. 

Eh ?

It tells this after executing 3c589_cs.o

Now the new kernel boots (2.0.30)
Also Card Services 2.9.5-3 starts and recognizes the card 
(socket 0: 3c562d/3c563d LAN + Modem Adapter.)

 Did you check lilo.conf ?

No, I just ran lilo. What about checking it ? It justhas boot and root
=/dev/hda2, the linux partition. 

In the README of pcmcia-cs there is: All 2.0 kernels should work ...
??

Regards,
Marc
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Re: Detecting more than 16Meg's on a Compaq ?

1997-09-19 Thread OLH




In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
I can't seem to make my Compaq recognize more than the first 16 MB. I have
read the boot prompt-HOWTO, where it says, that
I shall type type 'mem=XX'. Easy, except it boots up before I can type
that.
If you want to get at the lilo prompt, you can hit scroll lock when the
bios starts looking for something to boot off. But you probably don't
want to have to do that and type mem=128M every time you boot.
---  Exactly

So, I looked a little on LILO, to try and find something about a startup
delay, or telling LILO about all 128 MB, but can't find anything there
either.
In /etc/lilo.conf add a line
append=mem=128M
in the section for your normal linux kernel
---  Yes, except it mem=128M should be quoted, ie. append = mem=128M

Thanks

/Anders
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Re: Debian print server

1997-09-19 Thread George Bonser
For some reason my mailer chopped off the leading dots in the commands that I
tried to be so clear about by putting them on separate lines.  They should be
like this: ./lpd stop and ./lpd start 


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linux and windoz

1997-09-19 Thread Marc Fleureck
For a long time I dream about running windoz on top of linux. I would 
feel very comfortable runnig ms-office or other windoz programs next 
to linux programs. (besides, the organisation I work for has 
standardized on windows (NT4))

Maybe I don't hate windows enough ?

To make a long story short: it seems to me that wine is not advancing 
very well (Word 2 starts ! wow !). NTFS file system is still alpha.
 Recently I discovered (free!) Willows Software TWIN sources
(www.willows.com) ? Is this any better ? Any suggestions ?

Is there any hope ? Or is it just that bad !

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tar archive overwritten

1997-09-19 Thread Marc Fleureck
URGENT. I know this is not the wright place to ask this kind of question,
but it is a very urgent one ! My news server is down, so I try here. 
It could have happened on a linux system too ! Here's the problem 
description:

System: Unisys SMP5400, Pentium P5/EISA, Sys 5R4 (4.0.2).

Tar archive overwritten. Help ! Does this sound familiar ? We need to
extract a dump file of about 4M that is on a DAT tape, ... somewhere.
Little problem: the (backup-) tape was overwritten by the command:

  tar -cvf /dev/rmt/cd0d0 file

Maybe there is some hope of retrieving the file with known name !?

Desperate.

Regards,
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pcmcia 2.9.5/linux 2.0.30 kernel and new problem

1997-09-19 Thread Marc Fleureck
The new kernel 2.0.30 boots ! Thanks for all the tips. Card Services 
2.9.5 starts and recognizes the card  ! but .. with another 
error from cardmgr: 

Loading failed ! The module symbols 
 (from linux_2.0.30) don't match your linux_2.0.30. 

Eh ?

It tells this after executing 3c589_cs.o

Now the new kernel boots (2.0.30)
Also Card Services 2.9.5-3 starts and recognizes the card 
(socket 0: 3c562d/3c563d LAN + Modem Adapter.)

 Did you check lilo.conf ?

No, I just ran lilo. What about checking it ? It justhas boot and 
root =/dev/hda2, the linux partition. 

In the README of pcmcia-cs there is: All 2.0 kernels should work 
... ??

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Re: Debian print server

1997-09-19 Thread George Bonser

I just happen to be working on a similar problem tonight.  One thing that
appears to be needed is to stop and restart lpd (a kill -HUP does not do the
trick!) by going into /etc/init.d and issuing a 

/lpd stop

then a 

/lpd start

and changes to your /etc/printcap should then take effect.

I have not needed the -l 515 for my lpd ... it seems to listen to the proper
port by default and my lpd manpage tells me that -l is for logging.

You might need to do the stop/start on BOTH machines so that all changes are
read correctly.



On 17-Sep-97 Bruce Perens wrote:
As far as I can tell, the lpd on my system isn't listening on TCP socket
515, which is what I would expect it to listen to from looking at
/etc/services. It's only listening to /dev/printer, if you give it the
-l 515 argumnent when it starts, it'll listen. Someone more familiar
with the program will have to say if this is a bug or not.

   Bruce
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Re: Debian print server

1997-09-19 Thread Bruce Perens
As far as I can tell, the lpd on my system isn't listening on TCP socket
515, which is what I would expect it to listen to from looking at
/etc/services. It's only listening to /dev/printer, if you give it the
-l 515 argumnent when it starts, it'll listen. Someone more familiar
with the program will have to say if this is a bug or not.

Bruce
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Re[2]: HELP: problems compiling wine

1997-09-19 Thread Lazaro . Salem
 
Thanks to Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Will [EMAIL PROTECTED]
for their prompt answer.

Appending `-L /usr/X11R6/lib' to the command line made it. I have wine (version 
960824) installed on my box. I tried it with MS-Word 6.0c, MS-Excel and Matlab 
4.2c (all 16bit applications) and they run to my satisfaction.
I have not tested them thorougly but I am quite impressed already. 

I think that if we (debian-users) could test and report bugs to the 
developers this piece of software would soon be very very usable.

Thanks again for this wonderful system to the Debian developers!

Lazaro

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Author:  olly@lfix.co.uk at RF
Date:17.09.97 12:51


 
 
 
 
 
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   gcc -o wine controls/controls.o files/files.o graphics/graphics.o 
   graphics/metafiledrv/metafiledrv.o graphics/x11drv/x11drv.o ipc/ipc.o 
   loader/loader.o memory/memory.o misc/misc.o msdos/msdos.o 
   multimedia/multimedia.o objects/objects.o resources/resources.o 
   scheduler/scheduler.o win32/win32.o windows/windows.o 
   debugger/debugger.o graphics/win16drv/win16drv.o if1632/if1632.o 
   miscemu/miscemu.o   -lXpm -lXext -lX11  -lm
   ld: cannot open -lXpm: No such file or directory 
   make: *** [wine] Error 1
   
   However libXpm is on the system.
 Try adding `-L /usr/X11R6/lib' to the command line, so that gcc knows where 
 to look for libXpm.  I think that, by default, it only looks in /lib
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Re: Debian ppp server how-to?

1997-09-19 Thread Carey Evans
dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yes...my modem works fine...i use linux to connecting to internet.

Well if mgetty's working right, you should see something like:

dialout  ttyS0/usr/sbin/pppd f Tue Sep 16 23:13 - 23:20  (00:07)

in the output of `last -20' if you dialout with the same modem
(ttyS0/COM1 in this case) you will have users connecting on.  Does
this happen?

 I think that mgetyy answerbut it return me an TIO errorwhat's
 that error?

I haven't come across that one - what does the error message say?

What do you get in /var/log/mgetty/mg_ttyS0.log?  You should see
something like:

09/18 19:01:47 yS0  mgetty: experimental test release 1.1.2-Feb20
09/18 19:24:41 # data dev=ttyS0, pid=15577, caller=none, 
conn='14400/V42BIS', name='', cmd='/usr/sbin/pppd', user='/AutoPPP/'

if it's working right (and you have the same amount of logging as me).
/var/log/ppp.log should then be something like:

Sep 18 19:24:41 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Sep 18 19:24:41 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: Using interface ppp1
Sep 18 19:24:41 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: Connect: ppp1 -- /dev/ttyS0
Sep 18 19:24:44 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: user carey logged in
Sep 18 19:24:44 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: local  IP address 192.168.17.35
Sep 18 19:24:44 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: remote IP address 192.168.17.160
Sep 18 19:24:44 prgsrv1 pppd[15577]: found interface eth0 for proxy arp

 When an user intent log in, the modem answer but then hang and
 disconnect...thus nobody can login.

Can they get a shell login by just dialing the number from minicom (or
hyperterminal on Win95)?

Also check /var/log/auth.log to see if there are problems with
passwords or something.

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How to upgrade libc6?

1997-09-19 Thread Lee Hosuk

Hi,all

Simply, 'dpkg -i libc6_2.0.X.deb' can't instlled.

How to Upgrade from libc5 to libc6?


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Debian print server

1997-09-19 Thread schulte
Hi,

I try to build up a print server printe (192.168.1.3) for my little 
local network based on Debian 1.3.1. Using lpd, magicfilter, and 
gs-aladin (plus gsfonts), wotan-e (192.168.1.1) should be able to
print a PostScript file to printe. Local printing on printe is fine,
and network services (ping, telnet, ftp) work. But remote printing
just results in:


wotan-e:~ lpr printcap.ps; lpq
wotan-e: waiting for queue to be enabled on 192.168.1.3
Rank   Owner  Job  FilesTotal Size
1stkws0printcap.ps  6557 bytes

printe: /usr/sbin/lpd: ps: Your host does not have line printer access


Yes, I have an /etc/hosts.lpd file (and hosts.equiv, too) allowing 
wotan-e access to printe. My /etc/hosts defines the machines as
shown above. Has anyone (who perhaps managed the setup of a print 
server...) a clue, what is going on here? I'm sure I'm missing 
something... The /etc/printcap files of both machines are shown at the 
end of this post. 

Thanks kws

-

wotan-e: printcap (I tried also symbolic name printe instead of IP)
=
# /etc/printcap: printer capability database. See printcap(5).
#
jp350s|lp|deskjet|Olivetti JP 350S:\
:lp=:\
:rm=192.168.1.3:\
:rp=lp:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote:\
:mx0:\
:sh:

printe: printcap

# Magicfilter setup Tue Apr 02 20:25:00 MET 1996
#
jp350s|lp|deskjet|Olivetti JP 350S:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:sh:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/local/bin/deskjet-filter

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setuid root CGI's - how bad it is?

1997-09-19 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hi,

(sorry for the off-topic question but I don't know where to ask)

Excuse my ignorance but how bad is it to have a setuid CGI script?
I know there should be big security issues with this but I don't
know what it is.

I have a CGI script that needs to write files in a user's home directory.
How can I do that?

Thanks and my apologies for being off-topic again.

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Re: quota bug ?

1997-09-19 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, G. Kapetanios wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 I have just installed  the quota utility on my system. 
 I did everything by the book but when I would run quota as a user it would
 say Disk quotas for ... : None . I checked and rechecked everything but it
 didn't help. I  run  quotacehk
 about 2 times and also /etc/init.d/quota start . Then I rebooted and it
 worked fine. I thought that /etc/fstab can be read immediatelly after it
 is written and no deamon needs to be restarted . I guess I am wrong.

1) do you have quota's enabled in the kernel?

2) did you add the usrquota option in /etc/fstab?

3) did you make the quota.user file in the root of the appropriate mounted
   partition?

4) remount the filesystems?  mount -o remount /dir

5) then run the quota start?

Good luck, keep meaning to do it myself,
Brandon

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How many modems ?

1997-09-19 Thread dada
Hi...

How many modems can attach to my computer controlled by linux?

Regards


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TeTeX question (newbie)

1997-09-19 Thread Daniel Doro Ferrante


Hi all.


I would like to install some new TeX packages to my system, mainly
those distributed with TUG/CDROM. What do I do to install it? Is it only
copping to a directory and updating the paths, or is there anything else?


Thanks in advance.


Daniel.

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Re: ESS vs SB16 sound cards?

1997-09-19 Thread Shaleh
We used to sell ESS cards at work.  Pardon my saying so but they are
pure shit.  We had nothing but problems with them and no longer will
sell them.  The saying goes there is a difference between cheap and
inexpensive, inexpensive costs less; cheap is just cheap.


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boot problems

1997-09-19 Thread Todd Fleisher
Hello,
I have been running Debian-1.2 until a disk crash last week forced me to 
reinstall. However, when I boot my system (Acer P-60 PCI motherboard) with the 
1.3 rescue floppy my system is rebooted when the kernel is finished loading 
into memory. I am now unfortunately running Slackware while trying to find a 
way to reinstall Debian. Can someone please offer some help as to what could be 
causing this problem and what possible solutions I could try?

When I boot I get the following:
Loading root.bin
Loading Linux

Then it reboots.
Thanks,
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RE: How many modems ?

1997-09-19 Thread George Bonser


I think you are limited to one modem per serial port.  I am not sure what the
limit is on serial ports but I know there is a Moxa multiport system with 128
serial ports and I THINK it might be expandable to 256.



On 19-Sep-97 dada wrote:
Hi...

How many modems can attach to my computer controlled by linux?

Regards


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xlib6(g) 3.3-5 problems

1997-09-19 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
Hello,

 recently I installed xlib6 (3.3-5) and xlib6g (3.3-5) because these
 packages are needed by other packages of X programs in hamm. This resulted
 in several problems:

 1) Some packages (mostly still from Debian 1.2) depend on elf-x11r6lib
which was apparently provided by older xlib6's. If I update these
packages, should (will) they depend on xlib6 instead of elf-x11r6lib?

 2) The new xlib6(g) breaks fvwm2. It doesn't work (it quits without an
error message), while fvwm95 runs fine. I guess, fvwm2 isn't available
as libc6-package.

 3) xlib6g-dev provides xdevel and conflicts with xdevel. This gives
a kind of a dependency problem with the older xlib6-dev package.
I purged xlib6-dev, but the problem still persists. Any idea???
Which development package for X should be installed?


 Thanks,

  Ulf

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Re: SB AWE 64 versus Soft. Syns. for making midi... Also, midi keybo

1997-09-19 Thread Anthony Fok
On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 14, 1997 at 03:15:12PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have noticed there are a couple of soft. syns. available for Linux, 
  including KMidi, TiMidity, etc. Has anyone been able to compare the 
  quality of these to the AWE64?

I haven't tried out the AWE64 (I have a SB16), but I highly recommend
TiMidity.  It is *excellent*!  It can also handle (up to 48-voice?)
polyphonic music very well, especially if you have a fast machine.  On my
Cyrix P166+ with 32MB, it plays the MIDI file without interruption unless
I'm doing too many CPU- and disk-intensive stuff.  ^_^  Sound quality?
Excellent!  ^_^  The patch files included in the Debian TiMidity packages 
are quite quite good.  smile

Anthony

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ssh or ssl-telnet?

1997-09-19 Thread Rolf Obrecht
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Hello,

is ssh or ssl-telnet better in securing remote sessions (password
encryption etc)? I've no clue. Which one should I prefer?
Where are the differences?

Thanks in advance


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Re: Motif programming blues

1997-09-19 Thread Jason Tseng
 Can anyone tell me why the following code (in attachments) doesn't work,
 or point to me someplace that describes in DETAIL the XmLabelWidget class?
 The lesstif docs describe functions fine, but precious little in the
 way of the widgets and gadgets.
 Problem: you give memo no arguments, you get a blank box.  Give it
 arguments, the label text is msg, not the arguments you gave it.
 I typed this verbatim (minus some syntactical differences, like ANSI-style
 function headers instead of KR, and moved a variable declaration to the
 top of the function instead of in the middle) from Douglas A. Young's The
 X Window System Programming and Applications with Xt: OSF/Motif Edition.
 I figure this qualifies as fair use since the damn code doesn't work.


There is nothing wrong with the codes. I have also compiled the program with 
Motif 2.0 and the program runs correctly. 
This is simple program and should run just as well under Motif 1.2 which
Lesstif hopes to compatibile with. I have used Lesstif 0.8 before and
I do noticed hiccups here and there (widgets losing their positions, program
crashing etc). The same program however, works find when compiled with Motif 
1.2. If this problem you are referring is a bug then it is a minor one.
Maybe you can try setting the label text after the widget is 
created(XtCreateManagedWidget) as opposed to during it's creation.


Jason


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Problem with building of debian packages

1997-09-19 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny
Hello Debian developers  users!

Last time I needed to recompile after small modification one of debian
packages (mgetty - because the autodetection procedure did not recognize 
correctly my modem). Unfortunately building of this package lead to error
message at the final step of the whole procedure:

Error occuring in dpkg-gencontrol:
--
dpkg-gencontrol -pmgetty
dpkg-gencontrol: failure: chown new files list file: Illegal seek
make: *** [binary-arch] Error 29
---

I thought that the problem is in the mgetty's source tree, so I tried to
rebuild some others packages - results were the same or pretty the same:
Errors occured in dpkg-gencontrol, and sometimes in dpkg-shlibdeps.


Error occuring in dpkg-shlibdeps:
---
dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: chown of `debian/substvars.new': No such file or 
directory
---

Lines causing error were the only lines where @fowner variable is used.
I'm not Perl programmer, but anyway it seems to me, that this variable is
not initialized neither in dpkg-gencontrol nor in dpkg-shlibdeps.
I'm using debmake ver. 3.3.1, dpkg ver. 1.4.0.8, dpkg-dev ver. 1.4.0.8 
perl ver. 5.003.07-10

What can be the reason of my problem?
Please answer preferrably by e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you in advance
Wojciech Zabolotny



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Newbie going crazy........

1997-09-19 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Howdy all...:-)

Picked up the following files:

 9-18-97   2:24p   1474560  42  base14-1.bin
 9-18-97   2:28p   1474560  42  base14-2.bin
 9-18-97   2:27p   1474560  42  base14-3.bin
 9-18-97   2:23p   1299456  42  base14-4.bin
 9-18-97  12:05p   1474560  42  drv1440.bin
 9-18-97  11:14a 50556   0  install.txt
 9-18-97   1:08p 17863  42  rawrite2.exe
 9-18-97  12:10p   1474560  42  resc1440.bin

Followed the directions layed out in install.txt to make the boot, rescue, 
base, and driver
floppies using rawrite2.exe.  Didn't appear to be any problems involved with 
generating the
floppies.

Have run through the install proceedure three times now, ending up with the 
same problem(s) each
time:

The following error message is generated when the installation program is 
setting up Debian so
that it can be booted from the harddrive:

sbin/dinstall: /target/sbin/lilo:  not found

When exiting the installation program upon completing the setup, the setup 
program asks if the
user wants the system rebooted.when I answer yes, all that happens is a 
couple of lines
of text stating Closing x files etc.  The reboot does not take 
place..the computer is
just left hanging there displaying those lines of text.

When I try using the boot floppy disk (NOT the rescue disk), the boot appears 
to proceed
correctly but again I am left with a hung screen.the driver text info 
is displayed as
it's being loaded but then I can proceed no further. (Keyboard is functional as 
I can still type
but commands are not being processed.)

Any thoughts on why these things are occuring would be greatly 
appreciated..thanks! :-)



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Re: xlib6(g) 3.3-5 problems

1997-09-19 Thread joost witteveen
 Hello,
 
  recently I installed xlib6 (3.3-5) and xlib6g (3.3-5) because these
  packages are needed by other packages of X programs in hamm. This resulted
  in several problems:
 
  1) Some packages (mostly still from Debian 1.2) depend on elf-x11r6lib
 which was apparently provided by older xlib6's. If I update these
 packages, should (will) they depend on xlib6 instead of elf-x11r6lib?

Once the bug (i.e. them depending on elf-x11r6lib, that's a bug) has been
fixed, they will depend on xlib6. But you can ignore dpkg's error messages
(--force-depends)
 
  2) The new xlib6(g) breaks fvwm2. It doesn't work (it quits without an
 error message), while fvwm95 runs fine. I guess, fvwm2 isn't available
 as libc6-package.

Nor is fvwm95. But fvwm2 has been compiled with the -rpath option,
that forces it to use the libs in /usr/X11R6/lib, which are now libc6
on your system.

To fix it, use this script, posted to debia-devel by Philippe Troin [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:


=== BEGIN SCRIPT
#!/usr/bin/perl -w

# Open file
open IN, $ARGV[0] or die can't find $ARGV[0]: $!;

# Read it in one slurp
select IN;
undef $/;
select STDOUT;
$file=IN;
close IN;

# Remove this string
$count=$file=~s!/usr/X11R6/lib\0!\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0!g;
print Replaced: $count occurences in $ARGV[0]\n;

# Write the file
open OUT, $ARGV[0].out or die can't write $ARGV[0].out: $!;
print OUT $file;
close OUT;
=== END SCRIPT




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#!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
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RE: KDE

1997-09-19 Thread Tobias Bachmor

On 18-Sep-97 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone tried to compile and successfully tried to compile KDE?  Its a
new windows manager which is still in alpha testing stage, but looks
nice... if u have, could u please tell me what order u compiled the
packages in and what u developer source u have installed on your system.
Hi!

On the KDE Webserver there are several Debian-Packages - but they are a little
bit outdated. I ´debianized´ the current public version (0.11.00) with no 
problems. I don´t know, if I hit exactly the DebianFSS, but the directories my
installation uses are quite resonable.

If there´s interest I can ask the KDE-people to upload my DebianPackages.

Bye

  Tobias

PS: I compiled the packages with no problems at all. The order is kdesupport,
kdelibs, kdebase and then anything you like (kdeapps is a good start).
I´m using a normal Debian 1.3 release.


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Re[2]: HELP: problems compiling wine

1997-09-19 Thread Lazaro . Salem






After my post about my wine experience, Brian commented:

Subject: Re: HELP: problems compiling wine
Author:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] at RF
Date:18.09.97 10:54

 I tried it with MS-Word 6.0c, MS-Excel and Matlab
 4.2c (all 16bit applications) and they run to my satisfaction.
 I have not tested them thorougly but I am quite impressed already.

You got Word-6 to run under it?  Wow!  I never been able to get it to
run ever under the 9708xx versions.
Excel runs pretty well, though it does crash occasionally.
Brian
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Yes. Word 6.0c runs with wine version 970824.  However in a post to the
newsgroup somebody reported that in the last wine realease (of 970914?)
MS-Word 6.0c is broken.

I am running Debian 1.3.1 (as of end of August 29 + a few upgrades from
bo-updates), on my old good i486/33MHz with 16 MB RAM and 16 MB swap
partition. The load is about 1 when running Wine + Word and Matlab and
appbar (a task bar a la NextStep for MS-Win 3.11). I got some messages
which I could not dechipher yet.

Wine is slow to load but I don't perceive it a slow when writing documents.
I haven't tested raw speed of other programs like for example Matlab 4.2c
but graphics on the last were fast enough for me.

The color/font configuration needs probably to be tuned. I haven't
read the documentation yet. (I am in moving period so I have no much
time right now).

As it had happened with Debian GNU/Linux, _it_would _really_boost_
_wine_development if many people in this list give it a try ...
AND report bugs. Well...that's just my humble opinion.

Thanks,

Lazaro



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Re: xlib6(g) 3.3-5 problems

1997-09-19 Thread Ricardas Cepas
On Fri Sep 19 06:22:02 1997 +
   (Penktadienis, 1997 m. rugsėjo 19 d. 09:22:02 +0300),
  Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote:

 Hello,
 

  recently I installed xlib6 (3.3-5) and xlib6g (3.3-5) because these
 

  2) The new xlib6(g) breaks fvwm2. It doesn't work (it quits without an
 error message), while fvwm95 runs fine. I guess, fvwm2 isn't available
 as libc6-package.
 
I solved this for the time by changing in the binary
/usr/X11R6/lib \000  to / and zero's


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Re: Problem with building of debian packages

1997-09-19 Thread H Huang
 Wojciech == Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Wojciech Error occuring in dpkg-gencontrol:
 Wojciech --
 Wojciech dpkg-gencontrol -pmgetty dpkg-gencontrol: failure: chown
 Wojciech new files list file: Illegal seek make: *** [binary-arch]
 Wojciech Error 29
 Wojciech ---

As far as I remember, this is a bug with dpkg 1.4.0.8 fixed after
1.4.0.9. The problem is that the dpkg in hamm (1.4.0.19) right now is
compiled against glibc2.  If you don't want the glibc2 stuff, you'll
have find a dpkg copy satisfying  1.4.0.8 but  1.4.0.19. And I don't
know where you can find one.

Good luck.

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base 1.1.0-14 and image 1.3.64-0

1997-09-19 Thread Alexander LIST
Hi,

I have these two obsolete packages lying around on several machines, but I
have no idea how to get rid of them. I remember that there were two
dummy replacement packages for them.

Any hints?

Thank you...

Alex

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Re: Token Ring

1997-09-19 Thread Greg Vence
Terry Dawson wrote:
 
 Greg,
 Have you checked the NET-3-HOWTO, was it any use?
 If not, please let me know why, I'm always keen to improve it.
 
 regards
 Terry
 
That's a good document.  I like it as much as NAG and its shorter. :)

Thanx -- Greg.
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Re: [ 0.84 Debian compile ?]

1997-09-19 Thread jdassen
On Sep 18, joost witteveen wrote
 Have you tried to apply the debian patches for mutt_0.81 to mutt-0.84?
 Maybe the problem existed before 0.84, and the maintainer fixed it. (And,
 you could also have a look in the debian/rules file, to see if anything
 special happens in the build target).

I've reapplied the relevant parts of the 0.81 patches, and uploaded 0.84-1
this morning.

A general remark about my mutt packaging: I don't release a new version of
mutt as soon as it is available. In my experience, unmodified copies of the
upstream mutt package can be quite buggy, possibly due to its fast
development process. A couple of days after a new version is released,
Michael, Liviu and others will have fixed the big bugs, and I'll release a
mutt package based on the version that is then crystalized out.

If someone has remarks about the Debian mutt package (or this release
strategy), I'd appreciate them by private email.

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Re: Running DOSEmu as a regular user...

1997-09-19 Thread Dale Martin
Dale Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Here's another datapoint on this problem - root (for our domain - not
me - doh!) gets this mail when I run it:


[ begin included mail ]

-- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Illegal user
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Illegal DOSEMU user: uid=7023

[ end included mail ]

So, maybe dosemu can't look up the NIS information and get my
username?!  (I _am_ running mostly libc6 stuff now, and I now a lot of
that is broken.)  Also, change the entry in users to 7023 doesn't
help.

Later,
Dale

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dpkg-source error ?

1997-09-19 Thread Marc Fleureck
Hi,
I ran dpkg-source (dpkg-dev 1.4.0.8) on 3 files: *.diff.gz, *.dsc and
*.orig.tar.gz, as you described in the readme (dpkg-source -x *.dsc).

Its says:

  Can't locate POSIX.pm in @INC at /usr/bin/dpkg-source line 8.
  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/dpkg-source line8.

My system is Debian1.3/kernel 2.0.30.
Note: dpkg-dev was installed without any errors.

Regards,
Marc
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Searching out of whack on cgi.debian.org

1997-09-19 Thread Will Lowe
I hit the packages page and searched for xemacs.  Got a 
no matches were found for 'xemacs' message.

Same thing with emacs,  man,  and man-db.

Sounds like a problem with cgi.debian.org?

Will

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Re: 'tell' is missing from libc6

1997-09-19 Thread Brian White
  It appears the tell(path) command is missing from libc6.  What
  should I be using instead?
 
 The only tell that I could find in libc-5.4.33 is the following one:
 
 file sysdeps/linux/tell.c:
 
 off_t
 tell (int fildes)
 {
   return __lseek (fildes, 0, SEEK_CUR);
 }

That's the one.


 If that is the right function the replacement should be obvious using
 the syscall lseek, but you should prefer the use of ftell on FILE* if
 possible.

In this case, I don't have a FILE*; only a path number.


 If this is the wrong function you should tell us what tell(path)
 is doing, I haven't heard of such a function yet.

To quote C: The Complete Reference (by Herbert Shildt):

  The function tell() is part of the UNIX-like I/O system and is not
  defined by the ANSI standard.

Thus, I think libc6 should include it.  It appears that libc6 now includes
a manpage for ltell (which, I agree, is what the function should have been
named in the first place).  However, for compatibility reasons, there should
be a #define tell(a,b,c) ltell(a,b,c) in unistd.h.

Can anybody confirm if ltell exists in libc5?

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Re: No more mail

1997-09-19 Thread jdassen
On Sep 18, Paulo Ramos wrote
 I stop receiving mail from this mailing list. Anyone know why?

Ask the list maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want to know for sure.
IIRC, the mailing lists are set up to automatically unsubscribe addresses
that have repeated delivery problems. Maybe you mailhost has been down a
while, or generating no such user messages?

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Re: MD5 passwords and su

1997-09-19 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Galen Hazelwood wrote:

 The version of su you're using (from shellutils) isn't part of the
 shadow password suite.  It's smart enough to use shadow password
 functions if it finds them in the library, which it does, but other
 shadow features (ENV_SUPATH, SU_WHEEL, MD5 passwords) aren't available.
 
 If you want them, you need to replace shellutils's su with the shadow-su
 package.  It should be in the distribution somewhere; I can't say where,
 I don't use it.

Actually it is the secure-su package you want.


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Re: ssh or ssl-telnet?

1997-09-19 Thread jdassen
On Sep 19, Rolf Obrecht wrote
 is ssh or ssl-telnet better in securing remote sessions (password
 encryption etc)? I've no clue. Which one should I prefer?  Where are the
 differences?

ssh is not entirely free (check out /usr/doc/ssh/copyright.gz); ssltelnet
is.
ssh has some nice features for keeping passwords for other machines on your
current machine (encrypted using a passphrase of course), so (if you always
use ssh) you don't need to remember them.
ssh can be used to transfer files, and redirect arbitrary ports too.

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Re: ESS vs SB16 sound cards?

1997-09-19 Thread Stig Are M. Botterli
By ESS I'm assuming you mean Ensoniq SoundScape.

ESS and Ensoniq are two different companies. Regarding
ESS, the ESS 688 and ESS1688 sucks. However, I am told
that the ESS 1888 (?) is supposed to be ok.

Some of the mixer controls on the card are different from SB.  That makes
it a bit challenging to use under Linux.  For example, the MIDI mixer
interface is propritary.  Last time I checked, unless you buy the
commercial version of the Linux sound driver, you can't mix MIDI.

I assume you have the Vivo 90 card. I believe the other Soundscape
cards are fully supported in OSS lite. Not sure though.

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Re: bug ?: Disappearing DOS partitions

1997-09-19 Thread Lazaro Salem
If you haven't fixed your problem, I can help you. Just send us what
your able to see from DOS (with DOS FDISK) and/or from linux with 
cfdisk and with fdisk if you have it on your system (they do not present
the same information as far as I remember).

Just a comment to what Bruce said:

 I think DOS cares which partition is the extended one. I think it 
 wants it to be partition 4, but I'm not sure I remember that 
 correctly.

I don't think that's true. Maybe MS-DOS FDISK cares about that 
but not MS-DOS. I mean, I have tried and used many different
configurations of extended partition where the extended partition
has been the 1 the 2 or whatever you want. 

Comment: in fact we should be more specific as what's the meaning of
1st, 2nd. as you could write the information about the 2nd 
partition (not starting at the first cyilinder) in the 1st line of 
your partition table. IN any case I thing there is no such a limitation
from the MS-DOS side.

What MS-DOS FDISK cannot handle is to create more than one FAT 
_primary_ partitions. If one already exists then it allows you 
to create an extended one only. 

There is however an old good DOS application which is more flexible 
than MS FDISK and has been long used by the BSD people. Its name is
PFDISK and can be found (both source and DOS binary) in for example
NetBSD ftp under the tools tree (check out www.NetBSD.org).
PFDISK would also allow you to modify (save first a copy of your 
PT from within PFDISK writing to a file in the DOS partition)
the master partition table. This master partition table 
contains info of only 4 partitions and it is located at the 
beginning of your HD. I can help you with more details if you need.

FYI, I also had several primary DOS partitions. MS-DOS sees them all.
I've done it on my system with both versions 5.0 and 6.x of MS-DOS. 
If your unseable DOS partitions were primary (just check what cfdisk
sees as DOS partitions: if they are on /dev/?daN with ? = s or h
and N  4,  then they were logical partitions in the extended
partition; else if N5 they were primary partitions and (forget FDISK)
you could recover them with DOS PFDISK and the info you got from 
linux cfdisk/fdisk (I can help you if you need it).

Hope this helps and that it is not too late.

Lazaro

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1st install, dselect error on at package, can't go further

1997-09-19 Thread Nelson, R.A \(Richard/Rick\)
Subject pretty well says it all... even tried both mini and full
installs.

Installing from official Debian 1.3(.1) obtained recently from
CheapBytes.

How do I find out what's wrong with the package and bypass it?

Richard Nelson


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reinstall woes

1997-09-19 Thread Todd Fleisher
Hello,
I had been running Debian-1.2 until a disk crash last week forced me to 
reinstall. However, when I boot my system (Acer P-60 PCI motherboard) with the 
1.3 rescue floppy my system is rebooted when the kernel is finished loading 
into memory. I am now unfortunately running Slackware while trying to find a 
way to reinstall Debian. Can someone please offer some help as to what could be 
causing this problem and what possible solutions I could try?

When I boot I get the following:
Loading root.bin
Loading Linux

Then it reboots.
Thanks,
Todd
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Re[2]: 'tell' is missing from libc6

1997-09-19 Thread TENCC01.LEWIS01
for what its worth...

There is no man page for tell on hp-ux, dec unix, or aix.  However, a
simple program that calls tell will load so the routine exists in all
of those environments.  Using nm confirms tell, ftell, telldir,
and variants with one or more _'s in front (but no ltell).

jim

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Date:9/19/97 9:45 AM


  It appears the tell(path) command is missing from libc6.  What
  should I be using instead?

 The only tell that I could find in libc-5.4.33 is the following one:

 file sysdeps/linux/tell.c:

 off_t
 tell (int fildes)
 {
   return __lseek (fildes, 0, SEEK_CUR);
 }

That's the one.


 If that is the right function the replacement should be obvious using
 the syscall lseek, but you should prefer the use of ftell on FILE* if
 possible.

In this case, I don't have a FILE*; only a path number.


 If this is the wrong function you should tell us what tell(path)
 is doing, I haven't heard of such a function yet.

To quote C: The Complete Reference (by Herbert Shildt):

  The function tell() is part of the UNIX-like I/O system and is not
  defined by the ANSI standard.

Thus, I think libc6 should include it.  It appears that libc6 now includes
a manpage for ltell (which, I agree, is what the function should have been
named in the first place).  However, for compatibility reasons, there should
be a #define tell(a,b,c) ltell(a,b,c) in unistd.h.

Can anybody confirm if ltell exists in libc5?

  Brian
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control-panel

1997-09-19 Thread A. M. Varon

Hi,

Has anyone installed control-panel of redhat to debian? the binary itself
of control-panel is easy to install but what about the file system
configuration, modem configuration, etc.

Is there a tool just like this one in debian? 

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Re: MD5 passwords and su

1997-09-19 Thread Scott Ellis


On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:

 On 16 Sep 1997, Torsten Hilbrich wrote:
 
  I just detected the MD5_CRYPT_ENAB option in /etc/login.defs and
  enabled it.  Login works fine with the new passwords but su seems to
  have no idea of MD5.
  
  Is there a working version of su for MD5 passwords?
 
 su also seems to ignore ENV_SUPATH and SU_WHELL.  Looks to me that su
 doesn't pay any attention to this file.
 
 Should this be logged as a bug?  Has it been already?

Actually, the secure-su package is built to respect those files.  The su
in the default packages is the GNU one and deliberatly doesn't support
those options.  Although it would be nice if it could be convinced to do
MD5, i expect the best solution is just to install secure-su.


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Mouse?

1997-09-19 Thread Lazar Fleysher
Hello everybody,

Unfortunately I have got this question about mice...

I have a 3-button Microsoft mouse and it works fine in text mode. But I
could not get it to work under X-windows. Left and Right buttons seem to
be O.K., but middle one. I can not even simulate it using other two.

To resolve the problem (I know some mice are crazy) I tryed to change
mouse to a different one, to logi. I know it works on Linux (it was
checked on a different Linux machine), but when I run 

gpm -m /dev/ttyS0 -t logi
 (dev ^^^ name is correct)
I never get my prompt back... I have to Ctrl-C. I tried different
baud rates using -b option, nothing helps.

If somebody could suggest anything regarding either of these mice, I would
be very thankful,

ZORO


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blood

1997-09-19 Thread dada
I like very much Blood (Doom clone). Is there a Linux version?

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how many account?

1997-09-19 Thread dada
How many user can have an account in my linux box?

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Re: how many account?

1997-09-19 Thread Bruce Perens
At least 30,000 accounts can be supported. I've never heard of anyone
actually having that many.

Bruce
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Re: Download

1997-09-19 Thread Bruce Perens
Can you use a CD drive, if so, you would do much better to start with
one of the $4 Debian CD sets. See our web page for information on how
to get CDs.

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Re: Backspace key doesn't delete anymore

1997-09-19 Thread Peter S Galbraith

I wrote:

  but now XFree-3.3 wouldn't
 recognise my [Windows] keys as Meta keys in X, and the Backspace key
 enters a ~ character and beeps instead of deleting.
 
 I fixed the Meta keys with xmodmap (even reinstalling XFree and
 reconfiguring wouldn't help get back the default behaviour) but 
 I don't know how to fix the backspace key.  

The [Backspace] key somehow lost its keysym value of BackSpace
in favor of Delete, which didn't work at all.

I fixed it by adding this to my ~/.Xmodmap :

keycode 22 = BackSpace

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Re: Linux floppy disk problem

1997-09-19 Thread Martin Str|mberg
[Posted and mailed - erh! Mailed and mailed.]

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
: I'm trying to install Debian Linux 1.3.1 and everything works fine until
: I try
: to make a boot disk from the install menu. The installation program
: prompts me to insert a blank floppy in the drive and I do so and press
: enter.
: The installation program then tries to format the disk and almost
: immediately exits with the following messages:
: 
: Verifying track 0, head 0 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17

[Klippa, klapp kluppit repeatingly errors.]

: It doesn't matter which disk I use, it gives the exact same messages. I
: have tried with different floppy
: disks, reformatted them in DOS and Minix first (no errors when
: formatting there) but it doesn't help.
: 
: I have configured my system according to the instructions in install.txt
: (disabled Shadow Ram etc.)
: 
: I haven't tried with a new blank non DOS/Minix -formatted disk yet,
: would it
: make any difference?

Oh - do I regocnise this! I stumble on the _exact_ problem. I didn't
have another choice than to skip the making of the boot floppy.

There's somthing fishy about superformat, but it seemed that only I
was having any problems with it. Beside you, now.

My problem is very repeatable, as soon as try to use superformat, I
normally get this error.

I seriously doubt it will work how many floppies you'd try, but you 
never know.

An alternative is to hold you breath and only do the make linux
bootable from hard disk and skip the make a boot floppy and
reboot and hope. It worked for me - YMMV.

When (if?) you finish installing try superformat -d /dev/fd0 (or
/dev/fd1 or whatever) and see if you wont get this problem at that
time as well.

To try to pin-point the problem: is it possible that you check what
kind of floppy drive you have? I checked but now all I remember is
that it was a Teac something.


Right,

MartinS


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Re: Download

1997-09-19 Thread Britton


Hello Leslie,

I really reccomend that you get a CD ROM to start out with.  I am a
somewhat experienced user, and I still wouldn't know how to install from
ftp from scratch.  What with creating and formatting a partition, geting
your initial disks set up (I believe Debian still uses these?  it's been a
while) and other things I think ftp install could get very confusing very
fast.  Also, the CD ROM gives you hundreds of megs of neat stuff.  Even
the bare minimum will take a painfully long time to download over most
links.  I don't know about you, but my ISP is way too flaky for that
process to go smoothly.

Take a look at www.cheapbytes.com.  They have current CD's very cheap.
You might want to order an O'Rielly book from them as well to make
shipping worthwhile.  These are completely worwhile books I have found.
Good Luck! 

 Hi there,
 
 
   I'm very new in Linux. Can consider that I haven't start. Please give me 
 some info on how to download and install Linux.
 I have been to Debian's FTP to try to download, but I don't know which file 
 to click. I am very interested in Linux. I wish I can start learning Linux by 
 download it. But now I have this problem. Can you please help me on this. 
 Thank you.
 
 Leslie
 
 
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Download

1997-09-19 Thread Leslie Chan
Hi there,


  I'm very new in Linux. Can consider that I haven't start. Please give me some 
info on how to download and install Linux.
I have been to Debian's FTP to try to download, but I don't know which file to 
click. I am very interested in Linux. I wish I can start learning Linux by 
download it. But now I have this problem. Can you please help me on this. Thank 
you.

Leslie


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Download

1997-09-19 Thread Leslie Chan
Dear sir/madam,

Can you please show me where is the correct FTP site and what is the file name 
for downloading Debian Linux 1.3. I have been to Debian FTP site but don't know 
which directory I have to go and which file I have to download. 
Please.help me on this. Thanks,
thank you very much.


Leslie


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Download

1997-09-19 Thread Leslie Chan
Dear sir/madam,

Can you please show me where is the correct FTP site and what is the file name 
for downloading Debian Linux 1.3. I have been to Debian FTP site but don't know 
which directory I have to go and which file I have to download. 
Please.help me on this. Thanks,
thank you very much.


Leslie


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Re: How to upgrade libc6?

1997-09-19 Thread Scott Ellis


On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:

 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
 Hi,all
 
 Simply, 'dpkg -i libc6_2.0.X.deb' can't instlled.
 
 How to Upgrade from libc5 to libc6?
 
 read the libc6 migration howto : posted here once a week or so.

Also located at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/


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Re: Download

1997-09-19 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 Dear sir/madam,
 
 Can you please show me where is the correct FTP site and what is the file 
 name for downloading Debian Linux 1.3. I have been to Debian FTP site but 
 don't know which directory I have to go and which file I have to download. 
 Please.help me on this

. 
 Thanks,
 thank you very much.
 
 
 Leslie

Dear Leslie,

please go to
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/Debian-1.3.1.r3/disks-i386/current/
and read either install.txt or install.html (if you are using browser).
In this file you will find instructions on downloading and installing
Debian Linux. You will find out that you would have to download
several files (like resc1440.bin, etc.). They are all located in the same
directory as install.txt (or install.html).

I would also encourage you to visit Debian web site http://www.debian.org
for Debian-specific information and also visit the Linux Documentation
Project site for general Linux information
http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/

Hope this helps.

Yours,

Alex Y.



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Starting out...

1997-09-19 Thread Ms. Geek
Hi folks!

I've just finished the hardware part of building my very own PC Compatible
(AMD K5-166, Amptron PM8600 motherboard, 32MB RAM, S3 Trio64+ 2MB video
card, Creative Labs SoundBlaster Vibra16 audio, Hitachi 7730 IDE 4X CD-ROM,
Quantum Bigfoot 4.3GB IDE HD, Teac 1.44MB HD, soon to be getting a Seagate
[Conner] 800MB Tape Drive) and am tweaking Windows95 into submission.

When I formatted for 95 I left 1.3GB unformatted for use by Debian Linux
1.3.1. I will be using Benedict Chong's excellent utility PowerBoot to make
the system a dual-boot. I chose Debian at the behest of Chong and my
longtime friend Phil Hansford. My CD comes from Workgroup Solutions (Linux
Mall) but I will buy another direct from the Debian Organization to support
their good work.

Are there still any pitfalls to using Debian Linux with the K5 chip or any
of the other hardware I mentioned above? Eventually I plan on upgrading to
the K6 chip...I've heard some Linux horror stories about the K6 not
working. Anyone on this list use PowerBoot to dual boot? I'm gonna need a
*lotta support* from you folks, and I promise when I become a Linux guru I
will help the newbies on this list.

For an account of my ongoing experiences building my computer, check out my
website:

http://www.amazoncity.com/~msgeek/clones/
Ms Geek's 3D House Of Clones

Take care,
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Re: Starting out...

1997-09-19 Thread Ralph Winslow
Ms. Geek wrote:
 
 Hi folks!
 
 I've just finished the hardware part of building my very own PC Compatible
 (AMD K5-166, Amptron PM8600 motherboard, 32MB RAM, S3 Trio64+ 2MB video
 card, Creative Labs SoundBlaster Vibra16 audio, Hitachi 7730 IDE 4X CD-ROM,
 Quantum Bigfoot 4.3GB IDE HD, Teac 1.44MB HD, soon to be getting a Seagate
 [Conner] 800MB Tape Drive) and am tweaking Windows95 into submission.

Sounds very nice! I'm green.
 
 When I formatted for 95 I left 1.3GB unformatted for use by Debian Linux

Why did you piss away so much space on MicroBarf W$95?  You'd better
served
devoting it to Linux (I think Debians distribution was a terrific choice
that
you'll live to be pleased with, though).

 1.3.1. I will be using Benedict Chong's excellent utility PowerBoot to make
 the system a dual-boot. I chose Debian at the behest of Chong and my
 longtime friend Phil Hansford. My CD comes from Workgroup Solutions (Linux
 Mall) but I will buy another direct from the Debian Organization to support
 their good work.
 
 Are there still any pitfalls to using Debian Linux with the K5 chip or any
 of the other hardware I mentioned above? Eventually I plan on upgrading to
 the K6 chip...I've heard some Linux horror stories about the K6 not
 working. Anyone on this list use PowerBoot to dual boot? I'm gonna need a
 *lotta support* from you folks, and I promise when I become a Linux guru I
 will help the newbies on this list.

While I don't have direct experience with either the K5 or the K6, I'm
sure someone
on the list has and will allay your fears.
 
 For an account of my ongoing experiences building my computer, check out my
 website:
 
 http://www.amazoncity.com/~msgeek/clones/
 Ms Geek's 3D House Of Clones
 
 Take care,
 --.\\-H--
 
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That's Ms. Geek to you!!!
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