Re: Sound support in kernel-image-2.0.30

1997-10-05 Thread ychim
why don't you simply use make-kpkg to compile the kernel?

Will Lowe wrote:
 
 On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Tom Ed White wrote:
 
  How can I find out which sound cards, if any, are supported in this
  kernel image?
 If you're using the standard debian-installed kernel,  I don't think ANY
 are automatically supported.
 
  I want to know if I need to recompile my kernel for
  sound. I suspect that many of the drivers are already there, since
  the device file is present.
 There's no way to get around compiling the kernel.  This isn't such a bad
 thing,  as the kernel-install process is simple enough that a trained
 monkey can do it :).  Assuming you've installed the
 kernel-source.2.0.30.deb,  it's
 
 1) determine your soundcard configuration (DMA,  IRQ,  addresses,  etc.)
 2) as root,
 a) cd /usr/src/linux
 b) make menuconfig (or make xconfig,  if you're running x and
 tcl/tk)
 c) select sound and follow the prompts
at this point,  take a look at the other stuff in your kernel;
 if you don't have scsi,  disable scsi support,  etc makes the
 kernel smaller and faster --- you'll probably also want to make
 sound a module,  unless you use your sound card 24/7
 3) make dep
 4) make clean
 5) make zImage
 6) make modules
 7) make modules_install
 8) mv /vmlinuz /mvlinuz.old (or some other backup name)
 9) cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /vmlinuz
 10) modify /etc/lilo.conf to have a stanze for each kernel -- keep the old
 one around until you've run the new one a while (you might instead make
 the new kernel into a boot disk,  so you don't have to play with lilo.conf
 yet -- to do this make zdisk with a disk in the drive)
 11) run lilo and then reboot
 
 Email with questions.
 Will
 
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RE: Re.: Re: umount: /cdrom: devide is busy.

1997-10-05 Thread Ralph Winslow

On 04-Oct-97 Alan Eugene Davis wrote:
Thank you for the response.  Perhaps I should clarify.

Open a new xterm and enter ps -ef | grep cdrom and if than returns
a line (or more) let us know what they are; if not, enter df | grep
cdrom and if that doesn't returm anything kill a white chicken by 
the light of a full moon and after the feast, place its dried wish-
bone above your cdrom and say the magic words Dennis M. Richie (or
was that Linus Torvalds) I can never remenber... 

I am using X.  I have several xterms/rxvts  open, and I am running
several emacs frames.  None of these, as far as I can tell, is
connected in any way with /cdrom, neither sitting on it, nor
accessing any file on the cd.  

I need to fing a way to find out which processes or xterms is/are
causing this association to be made?  This happens once in a while,
that I am NOT in that directory, but I get this message, so something
is going on that is not seen by me.

Alan

Dan Hugo writes:
 This will always happen if, for example,
 
 pwd
 /cdrom/*
 
 In other words, if you are IN the directory in question, it is busy.
 
 Happens to me all the time as well.  Same with any mounts, or if you try
 to rmdir a directory you are in.
 
 cd /;umount /cdrom 
 
 should work
 
 -dh
 
 
 
 
 Alan Eugene Davis wrote:
  
  This happens to me quite often: a floppy or a cd isn't being accessed,
  but I cannot unmount it: umount gives the error I have indicated.
  
  Is there any way to find out what process or which xterm might be
  accessing or sitting on a certain device?
  
  Thank you to all who have made my computing journey smoother.
  
  Alan
  
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Converting a ps file from letter to A4 ? fig2dev ?

1997-10-05 Thread Shaul Karl.
I am trying to make the sag (linux System Administrators' Guide) from the LDP. 
The complied version that is stored there is in letter paper size while I need 
A4 paper size.

Is there a site (perhaps in Europe) that has an A4 postscript version?
Is there a way to convert the ps file that the LDP stores from letter to A4 ?
Is it true that if I'll make it myself I will have an A4 version (that is, is
the letter paper size not an integral part of the formatted files) ?

The following is from the Makefile:

#
# This is the Makefile for formatting the Linux System Administrators' Guide.
# You need LaTeX2e (probably a recent version), fig2dev (version 3), and
^^^
# the usual UNIX tools to run everything.  The distribution contains
# all formatted files (especially figures).
#

Is there a debian package that contains fig2dev or an equivalent utility ?

Thank you.











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Re: xcontrib and xproc packages

1997-10-05 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 I need to install the xproc package for xcontrib, but it requires
 elf-x11r6lib which is not available..  Where can I find this package or
 another verion of xproc which doesn't require elf-x11r6lib?

The xproc package, as well as several other packages, has an obsolete
dependancy on the virtual package elf-x11r6lib.  This virtual package used
to be provided by xlib6, but it was removed almost a year after it had
been announced as obsolete.  Installing the package with the
- --force-depends option to dpkg will allow you to install it anyway.

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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-05 Thread Britton

On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 04, 1997 at 11:28:24AM -0800, Britton wrote:
  
  On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:
  
   How well/is the AWE64 GOLD Sound card supported under Linux?  ..or will it
   act/function like the SB16?
  
  It will act like a SB16 yes, but this is nothing wonderful, as the SB16 is
  quite pathetic.  xmix is the only program I've run into with a line select
  (which you need since the SB 16 has no input mixer).
 
 And it should act like a AWE-32, because I have the suspicion, that they
 mostly enchanced the software driver, not the hardware. (I wouldn't be
 surprised, if the hardware is nearly the same. I have a AWE32 with the
 64upgrade, and they say that I have a functionally AWE64, so it is another
 sort of Winsoundcard)
 
  What you want is awedrv, which is available as a debian source package.
  Trouble is, it won't compile as a module, which I think means you have to
  use initrd to run isapnp before it will work.  I've read the initrd stuff,
 
 You HAVE to install it as a module, because isapnp must be started first,
 and then the sound module has to be installed. In fact, isapnp will be
 started automagically by the current initrd scripts, so you have just to
 install it, and add two entrys two the isapnp config file (mail me for more
 info).

I believe I have isapnp.conf set up correctly in /usr/local as I needed to
use it (and a modularized version of the SB 16 driver) to get any sound at
all.  However...

When I selected the additional low level drivers option and then the awe
driver option, and compile, I didn't find anything in
/usr/src/linux/modules, where the sound module always showed up before. 
Have you actually found this file there?  Whould the option for the awedrv
even show up in 'make menuconfig' if there was a problem with the included
patching script? (I assumed it would not, and the script did not report
any problems). 

  but havn't gotten around to trying it yet.  Am I right in my understanding
  that you just need to copy over a rescue disk, isapnp, and possible bash
  (to write initrc with) into the initrd environment?  Anyone done this?
 
 You just have to install and congfigure isapnp, that it is (and add the
 sound module to the modules autoloaded at boot time, if you want. You can
 even load a sound font bank at boot time).

  
  The awedrv does not support all the SB 64 capabilities, but from what I
  understand the extra channels are provided by software anyway.
 
 Yup. The Awe driver supports a good part of the AWE32 stuff. AWE64 was never
 intended for other OS than Windows (Creative Labs says, there would be no
 market for Linux, I think the linux community should ignore SB, if they
 ignore us).
 
 Marcus
 
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Re: mp3 player application

1997-10-05 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Oct 04, 1997 at 02:18:18PM -0400, Paul Miller wrote:
 I'm looking for a MP3 player which has the following features:
  * for Linux
  * play lists
  * shuffle and repeat
  * view/edit MP3 tags
  * fade in/out
  * play two songs at once (one fading in while the other fades out)
  * preferabably X-based (writen in C/C++ .. NOT Tcl/Tk)
  * general controls (play,stop,fast forward,rewind,next/previous
track,pause)
  * displays time remaining and/or elapsed
  * AWE64 GOLD support

never! (BTW: drop the GOLD, it has nothing to do with AWE64, but with the
add-ons like Cubasis Audio etc.) This is because Creative Labs sees no
market for Linux, and they do not support it. In fact, the 32 additional
voices are software generated (WaveGuideSynthese), means: additional
processor load, no driver for other systems than systems supported by
Creative Labs.
Sorry.

  * looks pretty and is easy to use
 
 If none exists... someone should make it!

Perhaps you?

Marcus

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Re: Sound support in kernel-image-2.0.30

1997-10-05 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Lucas wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Could someone please help me interpret the following messages:
 
 during boot:
 
 /dev/hda3 (my Linux part.) has reached maximal mount count ... forced
 check

This is a harmless message. If you mount and unmount an ext2 partition a
certain number of times, fsck checks it just to make sure it doesn't
contain any errors.

On an ext2 partition there is a counter which is reset when you check it.
When you unmount a partition (I think it is then) it is increased by one.
When the counter reaches a certain value (I believe 20 or 25), the
partition is checked the next time you run fsck on it, no matter what.
 
 second message (only as regular user, not as root):
 
 $man [whatever]
 (the man page does display, but with a message that obviously concerns
 permissions:)
 
 man: can't create /var/catman/cat1/XXX(some number)
 man: can't unlink /var/catman/cat1/XXX: Permission denied

This could mean /var/catman has, somehow, got the wrong permissions. You
can correct this by running these two commands as root:

# rm -rf /var/catman
# mkcatdirs man root 0755

For an explanation of the mkcatdirs command, run it with no parameters.

Remco


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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-05 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Oct 04, 1997 at 04:35:21PM -0800, Britton wrote:
 On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
  On Sat, Oct 04, 1997 at 11:28:24AM -0800, Britton wrote:
  
   What you want is awedrv, which is available as a debian source package.
   Trouble is, it won't compile as a module, which I think means you have to
   use initrd to run isapnp before it will work.  I've read the initrd stuff,
  
  You HAVE to install it as a module, because isapnp must be started first,
  and then the sound module has to be installed. In fact, isapnp will be
  started automagically by the current initrd scripts, so you have just to
  install it, and add two entrys two the isapnp config file (mail me for more
  info).
 
 I believe I have isapnp.conf set up correctly in /usr/local as I needed to
 use it (and a modularized version of the SB 16 driver) to get any sound at
 all.  However...
 
 When I selected the additional low level drivers option and then the awe
 driver option, and compile, I didn't find anything in
 /usr/src/linux/modules, where the sound module always showed up before. 
 Have you actually found this file there?  Whould the option for the awedrv
 even show up in 'make menuconfig' if there was a problem with the included
 patching script? (I assumed it would not, and the script did not report
 any problems). 

Mmmh. I use the kernelpackage, and it installed the file sound.o just
under /lib/modules/2.0.29/misc, where it belongs to... no problems at all.

Are you sure you choosed the awe driver as a module? Are you sure you did
the kernel compile right? Try using the kernel-package from debian.

Marcus

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Re: telnet users

1997-10-05 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 how do I kill an idle telnet user?

Manually? Kill his/her shell process. Automatically? Use idled. This
program removes users that have been idle too long.

 how do I watch a telnet user?

Use ttysnoop.

Ttysnoop is in the admin section, idled is in non-free.

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Re: netscape communicator 4.03

1997-10-05 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 Has anyone gotten an error like this one when loading Netscape 4.03?  How
 can I fix this?
 
 netscape: locale `C' not supported.
snip

Yes, this is caused by version 3.3-6 of the xlib6 package. Downgrade it to
3.3-5 and you'll be fine. If you can't find it, try my ftp site at
cal011205.student.utwente.nl in /pub.

Remco


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Re: mp3 player application

1997-10-05 Thread Paul Miller
On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 04, 1997 at 02:18:18PM -0400, Paul Miller wrote:
  I'm looking for a MP3 player which has the following features:
   * for Linux
   * play lists
   * shuffle and repeat
   * view/edit MP3 tags
   * fade in/out
   * play two songs at once (one fading in while the other fades out)
   * preferabably X-based (writen in C/C++ .. NOT Tcl/Tk)
   * general controls (play,stop,fast forward,rewind,next/previous
 track,pause)
   * displays time remaining and/or elapsed
   * AWE64 GOLD support
 
 never! (BTW: drop the GOLD, it has nothing to do with AWE64, but with the
 add-ons like Cubasis Audio etc.) This is because Creative Labs sees no
 market for Linux, and they do not support it. In fact, the 32 additional
 voices are software generated (WaveGuideSynthese), means: additional
 processor load, no driver for other systems than systems supported by
 Creative Labs.
 Sorry.

well, what would be the absolute *BEST* sound card for Linux for playing
MP3s through a stereo (plus L/R RCA output)?

   * looks pretty and is easy to use
  
  If none exists... someone should make it!
 
 Perhaps you?

aahh shit, that means I need to learn C (which I've been wanting to for
about 6 years now).  Well, maybe a project like this would give me a good
reason to learn.

-Paul


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Re: xcontrib and xproc packages

1997-10-05 Thread Paul Miller
On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:

 On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:
 
  I need to install the xproc package for xcontrib, but it requires
  elf-x11r6lib which is not available..  Where can I find this package or
  another verion of xproc which doesn't require elf-x11r6lib?
 
 The xproc package, as well as several other packages, has an obsolete
 dependancy on the virtual package elf-x11r6lib.  This virtual package used
 to be provided by xlib6, but it was removed almost a year after it had
 been announced as obsolete.  Installing the package with the
 --force-depends option to dpkg will allow you to install it anyway.

If I run force-depends, won't dselect decide that the elf-x11r6lib package
no longer exists, therefore uninstalling xproc and xcontrib?  Dselect is
too much of a helpful tool to give up.

-Paul


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[OFFTOPIC] fighting spam: how to read mail headers?

1997-10-05 Thread Marcus Brinkmann

Hello!

Could someone be so kind and drop me a pointer to some documentatiuon, how I
can read the mail headers to fight spam properly.

I would like to find out the origin of the mail without bothering admins
from faked domains.

Thank you,

Marcus

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Re: xcontrib and xproc packages

1997-10-05 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:
  On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:
  The xproc package, as well as several other packages, has an obsolete
  dependancy on the virtual package elf-x11r6lib.  This virtual package used
  to be provided by xlib6, but it was removed almost a year after it had
  been announced as obsolete.  Installing the package with the
  --force-depends option to dpkg will allow you to install it anyway.
 If I run force-depends, won't dselect decide that the elf-x11r6lib package
 no longer exists, therefore uninstalling xproc and xcontrib?  Dselect is
 too much of a helpful tool to give up.

dselect will bring up a conflict resolution screen whenever you exit from
it complaining about the unresolved dependancy.  It should however, leave
them selected.  You can exit that screen by using 'Q' to tell it to
override.

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Re: re- thinkpad install

1997-10-05 Thread Carey Evans
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 Problem #1  - I cannot access the floppy on the ThinkPad

  root: linux floppy=thinkpad

  Were is this referenced in the debian install ?

For some reason, the Thinkpad inverts the meaning of some floppy
control lines.  You always have to put floppy=thinkpad when you
boot.  The page you get when you press F4 on the install disk lists
this.

After installing, you can add a line `append=floppy=thinkpad' to
your /etc/lilo.conf and rerun LILO, to have this happen automatically.

 Problem # 2 cannot mount the CD-rom
 
 when dselect asks for the block device name
 what should I give it ? 

Probably /dev/scd0, for the first SCSI CD-ROM.  But first the kernel
has to recognise the SCSI interface.  The page you get with F5 on the
install disk says: Future Domain TMC-8xx/950 tmc8xx=mem_base,irq -
is this what you've got?

Check the boot messages by typing dmesg | more, and look at the
files in /proc, to see what hardware got detected.  Unfortunately I
don't have any SCSI hardware ATM.

 I do not think the CD-rom is mounted.
 How can I ls -la the cdrom ?

% mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/scd0 /cdrom
% ls -la /cdrom

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Dosemu and a Matrox Millenium?

1997-10-05 Thread Johannes Martinez

Has anybody had any luck getting this to work?  I can't seem to
get any graphics modes.  Or has anybody been able to get QPV working under
dosemu, i really want to use this graphics viewer.

johannes martinez


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Re: Converting a ps file from letter to A4 ? fig2dev ?

1997-10-05 Thread Carey Evans
Shaul Karl. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


[snip]

 Is there a debian package that contains fig2dev or an equivalent utility ?

% zgrep fig2dev Contents.gz
usr/X11R6/bin/fig2devgraphics/transfig
usr/X11R6/man/man1/fig2dev.1xgraphics/transfig
  

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Network frustration

1997-10-05 Thread Mike Patterson

Ok, to start with, my network was working beautifully until this afternoon. 
Then, without (explainable) reason, two of the computers on the network had
their network cards die. One was on the fileserver.

I replaced the cards, and now all of the machines can ping each other again...
however, nothing else is working like it used to. 

When a win95 station tries to connect to it, it gets a Network is busy error
(Samba is running on the server). (as a sidenote: smbclient -l server gives
the correct response)

When trying to connect to the server via telnet, it takes a horrendous time 
(in the order of minutes) between where it says Escape character is '^]' and
Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 shadowglen.ml.org

The fileserver is also acting as a router to the rest of the internet, and I
can't connect to anything outside the net either (two ethernet cards, one for
external net, one for internal)

I know this is somewhat vague, but I'm not even sure where to begin. I'm 
guessing (randomly, really) that the internal network is getting flooded 
with packets from somewhere, but I haven't started running anything unusual.

I know my information is a bit vague, but I really don't even know where to
begin. All help would be appreciated.

---Mike


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savelog with immediate compress

1997-10-05 Thread Debian List
Hi,

I want to use savelog but I need the option that the .0 file created gets
compressed immediately... Can savelog do that?

Thanks
Ricardo


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Re: savelog with immediate compress

1997-10-05 Thread Joey Hess
Debian List wrote:
 I want to use savelog but I need the option that the .0 file created gets
 compressed immediately... Can savelog do that?

No. However, I think if you run the same savelog command trice in a row, you
will get the effect you want. file.0 will still be uncompressed, but the logs
will be in file.1.gz . And this really shouldn't take significantly longer 
than running savelog once.

Note, though:

BUGS
   If a process is still writing to file.0, and savelog moves
   it to file.1 and compresses it, data could be lost.

So this is something you need to watch out for when running savelog twice in
a row.

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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-05 Thread Britton


   You HAVE to install it as a module, because isapnp must be started first,
   and then the sound module has to be installed. In fact, isapnp will be
   started automagically by the current initrd scripts, so you have just to
   install it, and add two entrys two the isapnp config file (mail me for 
   more
   info).
  
  I believe I have isapnp.conf set up correctly in /usr/local as I needed to
  use it (and a modularized version of the SB 16 driver) to get any sound at
  all.  However...
  
  When I selected the additional low level drivers option and then the awe
  driver option, and compile, I didn't find anything in
  /usr/src/linux/modules, where the sound module always showed up before. 
  Have you actually found this file there?  Whould the option for the awedrv
  even show up in 'make menuconfig' if there was a problem with the included
  patching script? (I assumed it would not, and the script did not report
  any problems). 
 
 Mmmh. I use the kernelpackage, and it installed the file sound.o just
 under /lib/modules/2.0.29/misc, where it belongs to... no problems at all.

The trick is not to forget to do 'make modules'.  This was all a mistake
on my part, you most certainly do not have to use initrd.  Sorry if I have
caused anyone any confusion.

 Are you sure you choosed the awe driver as a module? Are you sure you
did
 the kernel compile right? Try using the kernel-package from debian.
 
 Marcus
 
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Problems w/menu files, and update-menus, fvwm95

1997-10-05 Thread James A. Abercromby II
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I cannot seem to  successfully load menu entries in fvwm95 by creating
menus files in /usr/lib/menus for the following two apps:
xpostit+
xdvi

and then running update-menus at the prompt

Although I have successfully created for the below listed apps:
zircon
lyx
xspread

Note: The first time I had installed Debian 1.3.1 Official CD from Cheapbytes I 
had successfully created menu file entries for both xdvi, and also xpostit+.

I have tried variations of the format of the menu files for both xdvi and 
xpostit+.  Below is the basic format for both files.

/usr/lib/menu
x11 Apps/Viewers xdvi none Xdvi /usr/X11R6/bin/xdvi

/usr/lib/menu
x11 Apps/Tools xpostit+ none StickyNotes /usr/X11R6/bin/xpostit+

After creating and saving both files in /usr/lib/menu
ran #update-menus, nothing happens

The other 3 apps menu files for zircon, lyx, and xspread, loaded into fvwm95 
w/no problems. Note: these 3 apps are also in /usr/X11R6/bin.

Note: In my file heirarchy their is this
/usr/bin/X11-which is a link to... /usr/X11R6/bin? does this have any bearing 
on this problem?
Note: I have very recently in the last 2 weeks upgraded/migrated to the libc6, 
using and following the debian how-to for the procedure, with 100% completion.
Note: xpostit+ also has a link to it in /usr/X11R6/bin/xpostit-link to xpostit+
NOte: I have tried every little subtle variation of the menu/files for the 
above two apps, including the new menu file format, and nothing has worked.  
With the 3 apps that loaded fine, I could use either format and it worked fine.

If anyone can help me with this, or provide with an explanation or insight it 
would be greatly appreciated


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Re: procmail emulate mail error

1997-10-05 Thread Dale Harrison
 
 Is there a way to make procmail emulate a mailer error.  E.g. when I'm
 spammed, procmail (or actually some program that would be run from
 procmail) would reply with something along the lines of an unknown user.
 This seems like a fairly complicated script and I'm not sure it would
 actually work (e.g. sendmail may change some of the headers indicating a
 success).  I'm thinking that maybe a few of these spammers remove bounces
 from their address pool.

Not sure if this is what you want, but you can add addresses/hosts to
reject in /etc/mail/sendmail.rej [or wherever you specify].

Just add the following to sendmail.cf

--
# reject list of originating email addresses and domains
FR/etc/mail/sendmail.rej
--

sendmail.rej just contains addresses/hosts that you wanna reject.

--
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baddomain.com
--

etc.

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Re: Problems w/menu files, and update-menus, fvwm95

1997-10-05 Thread joost witteveen
 I cannot seem to  successfully load menu entries in fvwm95 by creating
 menus files in /usr/lib/menus for the following two apps:
 xpostit+
 xdvi

Were you the one on IRC who complained about that too?
Sorry, but you ran away before I could answer you.

 I have tried variations of the format of the menu files for both xdvi and 
 xpostit+.  Below is the basic format for both files.

 /usr/lib/menu
 x11 Apps/Viewers xdvi none Xdvi /usr/X11R6/bin/xdvi


You don't tell us what the names of the files are you are creating.
The names have to match installed packages. Note that xdvi and
xpostit+ are not names of debian packages (for xdvi, use tetex-bin,
the other I don't know).

 Note: In my file heirarchy their is this
 /usr/bin/X11-which is a link to... /usr/X11R6/bin? does this have any bearing 
 on this problem?

No.



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#!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
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Re: non-English Linux use (Dead keys?)

1997-10-05 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Or is a non-English keyboard map sufficient ?
  If more than a key.map is needed, what might this be ?
 
 Does anyone know how to configure a keyboard to allow the insertion
 of accented characters under X?
 
 I know it's got something to do with dead keys, but I never got this
 to work.

You can either use the Compose key (e.g., press Compose, Apostroph,
and a in succession to get the accented a) or edit
/etc/X11/XF86Config to set the XkbVariant to deadkeys.  Look into
'man 5 XF86Config' for more information.

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Re: non-English Linux use

1997-10-05 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Santiago Vila Doncel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Another thing you can do is to make an ~/.inputrc file for bash/readline.
 Here is the mine:
 
 \e[1~: beginning-of-line
 \e[3~: delete-char
 \e[4~: end-of-line
 set meta-flag on
 set convert-meta off
 set output-meta on
 set bell-style none
 
 [ First three lines make Home, End and Delete keys to work as usual ].
 
 BTW: It is very likely that bash/readline in the next Debian release
 will support /etc/inputrc as global configuration file (currently it does
 only look for ~/.inputrc in the user's home directory).

There is an environment variable INPUTRC which can be set to point to
/etc/inputrc.

 Moreover I have this in my /etc/profile:
 
 export LC_CTYPE=ISO-8859-1
 
 but I'm not sure whether it is still needed or not (some time ago, bash
 needed it, now I would have to check it).

It is not needed for the bash but still useful for other programs.
BTW, I found out that a setting to LC_CTYPE=de_DE works better for me
than the above setting if LANG is set to de_DE, otherwise I get a
message telling me:

Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged


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asmail

1997-10-05 Thread Paul Miller
For some reason or another, asmail in the afterstep configuration does not
work when xdm is not loaded.  When using xdm, I can run asmail manually
and everything works fine.. I don't know why it won't work in the wharf
module though in xdm.. anyone have this problem?  Heres what's in my
default afterstep rc file:

*Wharf - - Swallow Exec asmail asmail /etc/X11/afterstep/system.asmailrc
 -geometry 45x45-1-1 

-Paul


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Re: Network frustration

1997-10-05 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Mike Patterson wrote:

 Ok, to start with, my network was working beautifully until this
 afternoon.  Then, without (explainable) reason, two of the computers
 on the network had their network cards die. One was on the fileserver.

 I replaced the cards, and now all of the machines can ping each other
 again... however, nothing else is working like it used to.

 When a win95 station tries to connect to it, it gets a Network
 is busy error (Samba is running on the server). (as a sidenote:
 smbclient -l server gives the correct response)

 When trying to connect to the server via telnet, it takes a horrendous
 time (in the order of minutes) between where it says Escape character
 is '^]' and Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 shadowglen.ml.org

 The fileserver is also acting as a router to the rest of the internet,
 and I can't connect to anything outside the net either (two ethernet
 cards, one for external net, one for internal)

 I know this is somewhat vague, but I'm not even sure where to
 begin. I'm guessing (randomly, really) that the internal network is
 getting flooded with packets from somewhere, but I haven't started
 running anything unusual.

my guess is that your problem may be broken DNS, mostly because of the
telnet delay. is named still running on your name server machine? can it
resolve hostnames and ip addresses? can other machines on the network
use it to resolve names? are all the zone files intact? any errors in
/var/log/daemon.log? check /etc/resolv.conf on the server, too...is it
pointing at the correct name server?

another possibility is that you have another faulty ethernet card
somewhere on your network - it's odd to get 2 or more cards die at the
same time...maybe you had a lightning strike nearby or some bizarre
voltage spike on your ethernet, maybe induced voltage from running
your cables too close to a huge coil/transformer/electrical motor or
something like that (these are only guesses, of course)

anyway, if there's another broken card it could be causing all sorts of
havoc on the network.  

do you get a lot of packet loss when you ping the fileserver from a
workstation?



btw, to scan your network for suspicious/anomalous packets run tcpdump
and watch the output for a while. monitor the activity on your ethernet.
BTW, it's a good idea, IMO, to practice this when you have a happily
functioning network so it's easier to tell the difference between
normal network activity and strangeness.

also try installing the courtney package on one of your unix machines
(it's available as a debian package) - it can detect some types of
attacks against a network. it's definition of an 'attack' is rather
simplistic though. it's purpose is to detect port scanning probes like
satan.

if you're really worried about a network attack, use packet filtering on
your external router (e.g. ipfwadm if it's a linux box) to block out all
incoming packets except those you know you need. when your users start
screaming because you inevitably forgot :-) one or two unimportant ports
like www and smtp, tweak the rules so they're a little more open.

if you are really concerned about network security *DO NOT* make your
fileserver the same machine as your internet gateway. resurrect an old
386 box from gathering dust in a cupboard if you have to and build
another router/firewall box.  Put your fileserver on your internal
network, safely behind the firewall.


craig

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Re: Problems w/menu files, and update-menus, fvwm95

1997-10-05 Thread ychim
IRC?  there is a debian channel?  what is it?

joost witteveen wrote:
 
  I cannot seem to  successfully load menu entries in fvwm95 by creating
  menus files in /usr/lib/menus for the following two apps:
  xpostit+
  xdvi
 
 Were you the one on IRC who complained about that too?
 Sorry, but you ran away before I could answer you.
 
  I have tried variations of the format of the menu files for both xdvi and 
  xpostit+.  Below is the basic format for both files.
 
  /usr/lib/menu
  x11 Apps/Viewers xdvi none Xdvi /usr/X11R6/bin/xdvi
 
 You don't tell us what the names of the files are you are creating.
 The names have to match installed packages. Note that xdvi and
 xpostit+ are not names of debian packages (for xdvi, use tetex-bin,
 the other I don't know).
 
  Note: In my file heirarchy their is this
  /usr/bin/X11-which is a link to... /usr/X11R6/bin? does this have any 
  bearing on this problem?
 
 No.
 
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 #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
 $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
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Re: xcontrib and xproc packages

1997-10-05 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
  The xproc package, as well as several other packages, has an obsolete
  dependancy on the virtual package elf-x11r6lib.  This virtual package 
used
  to be provided by xlib6, but it was removed almost a year after it had
  been announced as obsolete.  Installing the package with the
  --force-depends option to dpkg will allow you to install it anyway.
 If I run force-depends, won't dselect decide that the elf-x11r6lib package
 no longer exists, therefore uninstalling xproc and xcontrib?  Dselect is
 too much of a helpful tool to give up.
 
 dselect will bring up a conflict resolution screen whenever you exit from
 it complaining about the unresolved dependancy.  It should however, leave
 them selected.  You can exit that screen by using 'Q' to tell it to
 override.
 
I think you have to hit R first, because dselect will deselect all
packages depending on the not existing package.

You could also fetch Paul Seelig's equivs package from 
http://www.uni-mainz.de/~pseelig/debian.html
This is a dummy package. You can place elf-x11r6lib into provides:
and rebuild it (instructions how to do this should be inside the
package by now). Then you install it using --force-conflicts.
This way you will have a package which provides elf-x11r6lib and
dselect/dpkg won't complain any more.

Ciao,
Martin



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irc.debian.org (was Re: Problems w/menu files...)

1997-10-05 Thread joost witteveen

Thanks for your email. I haven't recieved email for
over 2 hours now, and I was beginning there were
conspiracies against me :)


 IRC?  there is a debian channel?  what is it?


server: irc.debian.org
chanel:  #debian

Come and join us!


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$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
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Re: procmail emulate mail error

1997-10-05 Thread Mark Plaksin
 BM == Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

BM Is there a way to make procmail emulate a mailer error.  E.g. when I'm
BM spammed, procmail (or actually some program that would be run from
BM procmail) would reply with something along the lines of an unknown
BM user.  This seems like a fairly complicated script and I'm not sure it
BM would actually work (e.g. sendmail may change some of the headers
BM indicating a success).  I'm thinking that maybe a few of these spammers
BM remove bounces from their address pool.

Hi,

Use EXITCODE.  Here's an excerpt from the procmailrc man page.  Check the
sendmail source for the appropriate EXITCODE value for user unknown.

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what is char-major-10?

1997-10-05 Thread Lawrence



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The Truth of Debian (want a laugh?)

1997-10-05 Thread Marcus Brinkmann

I managed it :-)

I decoded the hidden messages in /usr/debian/debian-manifesto. The key is
the perl code /usr/doc/perl/examples/travesty. Run it on the file with the
hidden message, and you will find out the truth. Here is what I saw:

* The Truth about the quality of Debian:

The Free Software Foundation and the Debian Linux Association will offer
the distribution that attracts the most bug-ridden and badly maintained
Linux distribution available; unfortunately, it is distributed under the
GNU General Public License).

* The Truth about the goals of the SPI:
---
It is, without question, the distribution becomes a secondary
concern.

* The Truth about the reactions of developers:
--
Many distributions have attracted little attention from developers.
There is a simple reason for this: they are familiar with the
operating system.

* The Truth about the money-making:
---
The time has come to concentrate on the destructive goal of
enriching oneself at the expense of the users rather than on the needs
and wants in advance without direct input from others.

* The Truth about the users:

Almost all users of Linux rather than on the distribution becomes a
secondary concern.

* The Truth about the Debian Distribution in general:
-
Debian is being developed by one isolated individual or group, as
other distributions of Linux distribution.

Marcus :)

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Re: xdm background image

1997-10-05 Thread Marco Bravi
On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 16:11:25 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org,
 Linux Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: xdm background image
 
 How can I display a background image (gif/jpg) on the xdm login prompt?

I have this line in my /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0:

/usr/X11R6/bin/xv -root -rmode 6 -rfg #FA
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/linux-logo-2.0.gif -quit

Obviously, you may want to remove it once a user logs in, just in case he
did not set any particular background that will do this. So I added this
line in my /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession:

/usr/X11R6/bin/xsetroot -gray

Following this method, you can also easily create animated login
backgrounds, by calling any suitable program (i. e., all those nifty
screen savers); in this case what you have to put in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
is a coomand that will kill the program displaying the animated
background.

Remember that many programs which look nice on the screen also burn lots
of CPU cycles. If your users rely on CPU time being available also when
they are not logged in (i. e., they run background, CPU-bound programs),
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Re: irc.debian.org (was Re: Problems w/menu files...)

1997-10-05 Thread James A. Abercromby II
Joost,
Yo, man thanx alot. Hey, cool, I am assuming that you are in NL? Holland.
Suave.  Hey, have you ever checked Replay's homepage?

Any way, were you being sarcastic in that email dude?  I wasn't complaining.  
Plus, I didn't run away, I went for a ride on my bike.  BTW I am constanting 
hanging out on #debian irc.linpeople.org.  I have been running Debian since 
July and before that Redhat for about a year.  I am not a scientist, 
programmer, or hacker, whatever, by any means, I got into this totally DIY, 
because of the philosophy behind it, and Fuck microsoft.

BTW, it worked, I don't know why the hell I didn't remember that before.
I guess most of the packages are the same name as the executables contained in 
them and I just assumed.
But, I must have known this before because like I said I had those two apps 
running before as menu files.

Anyway Thank you very much for you help, much respect, and props to you my 
friend.

What do you do for fun and work in Holland?

Do you like bicycles, vegatarian food, or Punk Rock 

I live in Italy

Peace Ciao Ciao

Thank you


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Fvwm95 new version---is it a bug?

1997-10-05 Thread Alan Eugene Davis
Is it a bug?  

I spent a couple of hours the other day learning how to edit the
config files for fvwm95, and got some nice features working, when...

Lo and behold, I found a NEW version of fvwm95 in hamm...  

When I installed it, it stomped on my newly edited config files.  It
didn't ask.  The script just printed a message it was installing a new
version of the config file.

Is this a bug?  It's AT LEAST a nit. 

Alan Davis

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Re: xcontrib and xproc packages

1997-10-05 Thread Paul Seelig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You could also fetch Paul Seelig's equivs package from 
 http://www.uni-mainz.de/~pseelig/debian.html
 This is a dummy package. You can place elf-x11r6lib into provides:
 and rebuild it (instructions how to do this should be inside the
 package by now). Then you install it using --force-conflicts.
 This way you will have a package which provides elf-x11r6lib and
 dselect/dpkg won't complain any more.
 
Actually --force-conflicts should not be needed for properly
installing 'equivs'.  I always use --install only without any
trouble.  But if it does need such measures than it is either
misconfigured by the person having built it or it simply contains a
bug still unknown to me.  If the latter is the case i'd be glad about
hints and fixes!
 Thank you, P. *8^)
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Compose key? (Can a windoze keyboard be configured to...)

1997-10-05 Thread Alan Eugene Davis
Can a windoze keyboard be configured, so those three extra keys can do
something interesting?  

Like act as a compose key?  a meta key?  

Alan Davis

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idled package

1997-10-05 Thread Paul Miller
Is anyone using the idled package?  It does kick anyone off... I tried
restarting it and it still doesn't do anything..  has anyone gotten this
package to work?

-Paul


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Re: Fvwm95 new version---is it a bug?

1997-10-05 Thread joost witteveen

 Is it a bug?  

Looks like it, but I cannot find it.

 I spent a couple of hours the other day learning how to edit the
 config files for fvwm95, and got some nice features working, when...
 
 Lo and behold, I found a NEW version of fvwm95 in hamm...  

Hamm is unstable. Whenever, after you install somethign from hamm,
no smoke comes out of your computer, you should say to yourselve
whow, lucky me: no smoke!. Having said that, I'm running 
unstable too (everythign I run comes from unstable).

 When I installed it, it stomped on my newly edited config files.

Whow, lucky you: no smoke :).

But, yes, I'd be somewhat annoyed too.

 It didn't ask.  The script just printed a message it was installing a new
 version of the config file.

The config file it installed was /etc/X11/fvwm95/system.fvwm95rc-menu.
The file you edited must have been /etc/X11/fvwm95/system.fvwm2rc95
(note the 2 and the 95 and rc flopped).

Are you sure /etc/X11/fvwm95/system.fvwm2rc95 was removed?
I think not.

 Is this a bug?  It's AT LEAST a nit. 

If it's true, it's a bug. But I have my doubs

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 am writing so that I can give it away free to everyone who can use it.
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I was thinking of putting a quote from RMS in my signature too.
From when/where was that one taken?

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limits.h

1997-10-05 Thread Ralph Winslow
Lately, when compiling various packages (pgp, perl5.004-2)
I get errors like:

/usr/include/limits.h:52: No include path in which to find limits.h

Since it found limits.h in /usr/include I don't get it.  I got by
one of these by adding

#define MAX_NAMELEN 255

but the latest one has me baffled. Can anyone spare a clue? TIA

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Re: idled package

1997-10-05 Thread Tommy Lakofski
Mine works. Where are they logging in from? I think by default it's set to
exclude logins from the console. Check /etc/idled.cf. Watch out for
drastically growing logfiles too... I don't think this program has been
maintained for awhile; I symlinked /var/log/idled.log to /dev/null (or
else it fills up with 'TOO MANY USERS; RECOMPILE' or something.

I attached my /etc/idled.cf for you in a separate message.

TL

On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 From: Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:43:24 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: idled package
 
 Is anyone using the idled package?  It does kick anyone off... I tried
 restarting it and it still doesn't do anything..  has anyone gotten this
 package to work?
 
 -Paul
 
 
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icq - java-version

1997-10-05 Thread Toens Bueker
Hi *,

recently we had a discussion about the pros and cons of
icq. I just wanted to check out the java-version. I
installed jdk-1.0.2 and got these errors:

java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no awt in shared library path
at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary(Runtime.java)
at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java)
at sun.awt.motif.MToolkit.clinit(MToolkit.java:37)
at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(Toolkit.java:199)
at java.awt.Window.getToolkit(Window.java:163)

What can I do?

By
Töns I don't know nothing about jdk Büker

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Re: limits.h

1997-10-05 Thread joost witteveen
 Lately, when compiling various packages (pgp, perl5.004-2)
 I get errors like:
 
 /usr/include/limits.h:52: No include path in which to find limits.h
 
 Since it found limits.h in /usr/include I don't get it.

Gcc found limits.h there too. But now it wants the one in 
usr/include/linux/limits.h.

Look at /usr/include/limits, line 52.

Probably /usr/include/linux isn't in your search path. I think the error
message goes away if you add the following flags to gcc:

   -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/linux

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traplayer?

1997-10-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
Has anyone on the list been able to get traplayer (a non-X interface to
Real Audio's raplayer) to work with Debian 1.3.1?  I keep getting an
unexpected end of file error with it.  Could this be related to the bugs
in bash-2.0?

Bob


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Re: what is char-major-10?

1997-10-05 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
Miscellaneous char devices.  See
/usr/src/kernel-source-*/Documantation/devices.txt.

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Re: Network frustration

1997-10-05 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Mike Patterson wrote:

 When trying to connect to the server via telnet, it takes a horrendous time 
 (in the order of minutes) between where it says Escape character is '^]' and
 Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 shadowglen.ml.org

This sounds like in may be a DNS problem.  The latest release of
netbase doesn't work properly if the /etc/nswitch.conf file is
properly set up.  Try double checking your DNS configuration and
/etc/host.conf, /etc/resolv.conf, and /etc/nsswitch.conf.

 The fileserver is also acting as a router to the rest of the internet, and I
 can't connect to anything outside the net either (two ethernet cards, one for
 external net, one for internal)

What does ifconfig and netstat show?

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Re: Network frustration

1997-10-05 Thread George Bonser

On 05-Oct-97 Craig Sanders wrote:

my guess is that your problem may be broken DNS, mostly because of the
telnet delay. is named still running on your name server machine? can it
resolve hostnames and ip addresses? can other machines on the network
use it to resolve names? are all the zone files intact? any errors in
/var/log/daemon.log? check /etc/resolv.conf on the server, too...is it
pointing at the correct name server?

You can rule out a traffic flood by simply pulling the connection to the
outside world. Then see if your internal services perk up.


another possibility is that you have another faulty ethernet card
somewhere on your network - it's odd to get 2 or more cards die at the
same time...maybe you had a lightning strike nearby or some bizarre
voltage spike on your ethernet, maybe induced voltage from running
your cables too close to a huge coil/transformer/electrical motor or
something like that (these are only guesses, of course)

Have you added another machine to the network that is plugged into a different
mains power circuit? If you are using coax for your ethernet, the shield is
running at power-line ground.  If there is a difference in ground potential
between two systems on the ethernet, you have a recipie for disaster. Same goes
for any serial cables that you might have added to a terminal that is plugged
into a different power circuit, many manufacturers of serial devices do not
properly isolate pin-1 from pin-7 (on a DB-25 connector) and can cause ground
loops.

Example, if you run a coax to your buddy next door, you might have serious
trouble if there is a diffefence betwen the ground circuits in the two houses.
Even something as minor as a bad connection in a power strip can cause trouble.

If you have a voltmeter, you might remove the coax connection at each machine,
one at a time, and measure between the connector shell and the computer
chassis. If you read more than a volt or so, you might have trouble. Replace
the connector before checking the next machine.


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Re: [OFFTOPIC] fighting spam: how to read mail headers?

1997-10-05 Thread Frank Barknecht
Marcus Brinkmann hat gesagt: // Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

 
 Hello!
 
 Could someone be so kind and drop me a pointer to some documentatiuon, how I
 can read the mail headers to fight spam properly.
 
 I would like to find out the origin of the mail without bothering admins
 from faked domains.
 
 You might want to take a look at:
 http://WWW.MCS.COM/~jcr/junkemaildeal.html

 
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Re: savelog with immediate compress

1997-10-05 Thread Debian List
Yes, thank you.

However, that would cause the useless creation of the .0 file because it
will be nearly empty... :(  each savelog would take up 2 files.

Anyone used the logrotate program (redhat has it)

Thanks
Ricardo

On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Joey Hess wrote:

 Debian List wrote:
  I want to use savelog but I need the option that the .0 file created gets
  compressed immediately... Can savelog do that?
 
 No. However, I think if you run the same savelog command trice in a row, you
 will get the effect you want. file.0 will still be uncompressed, but the logs
 will be in file.1.gz . And this really shouldn't take significantly longer 
 than running savelog once.
 
 Note, though:
 
 BUGS
If a process is still writing to file.0, and savelog moves
it to file.1 and compresses it, data could be lost.
 
 So this is something you need to watch out for when running savelog twice in
 a row.
 
 -- 
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Re: re- thinkpad install

1997-10-05 Thread frank

Thank you very much Carey, 
your suggestions were very helpfull.

Problem :
However, the CD-rom access is still not mounted.
and I do not know how access it. There does
not seem to be a scsi recognized.

the dmesg output lists : ---
Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
PPA: unable to initialize controller at 0x378, error 1
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detectotal total.
---
I do not remember telling the drivers loaded
section of the install there was a WD-7000 SCSI card,
I only selected the generic scsi drivers .

I do not know what mem_base,irq to use in the
boot command :
Future Domain TMC-8xx/950 tmc8xx=mem_base,irq

How do you add another driver to debian ?
for example:
Future Domain TMC-8xx/950 tmc8xx=mem_base,irq

Does something like this need to be placed into
the lilo.conf file ?

under /proc/scsi/scsi it says:-
Attached devices: none


under /proc/devices it contains:
Character devices:
1 mem
2 pty
3 ttyp
4 ttyS
5 cua
6 lp
7 vcs
10 misc
12 tpqic02
36 netlink

Block Devices:
1 ramdisk
2 fd
3 ide0
7 loop
9 md
36 ed


Therefore I do not think the CDrom has been recognized.

Previously under my NT 4.0 system I had on this 
thinkpad the Diagnostics described my cd-rom
as :_
FutureDomain 8xxx scsi
___

and the cdrom device labeled as :__
IBM CDRM00201
scsi CD ROM
scsi port 0
bus # 0
__

Thanks,
frank naranjo
bi!


At 01:13 PM 10/5/97 +1300, Carey Evans wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Problem #1  - I cannot access the floppy on the ThinkPad

  root: linux floppy=thinkpad

  Were is this referenced in the debian install ?

For some reason, the Thinkpad inverts the meaning of some floppy
control lines.  You always have to put floppy=thinkpad when you
boot.  The page you get when you press F4 on the install disk lists
this.

After installing, you can add a line `append=floppy=thinkpad' to
your /etc/lilo.conf and rerun LILO, to have this happen automatically.

 Problem # 2 cannot mount the CD-rom
 
 when dselect asks for the block device name
 what should I give it ? 

Probably /dev/scd0, for the first SCSI CD-ROM.  But first the kernel
has to recognise the SCSI interface.  The page you get with F5 on the
install disk says: Future Domain TMC-8xx/950 tmc8xx=mem_base,irq -
is this what you've got?

Check the boot messages by typing dmesg | more, and look at the
files in /proc, to see what hardware got detected.  Unfortunately I
don't have any SCSI hardware ATM.

 I do not think the CD-rom is mounted.
 How can I ls -la the cdrom ?

% mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/scd0 /cdrom
% ls -la /cdrom

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Re: limits.h

1997-10-05 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
On  5 Oct, Ralph Winslow wrote:
 Lately, when compiling various packages (pgp, perl5.004-2)
 I get errors like:
 
 /usr/include/limits.h:52: No include path in which to find limits.h
 
 Since it found limits.h in /usr/include I don't get it.  I got by
 one of these by adding
 

This has puzzeld me as well :-) Until I realized that I had a
inconsistent developement environment. Check the following packages if
they have the same version:

libc5 and libc5-dev 

All following packages should have the same version (2.7.2.1-8 for
stable)
libg++27, libg++27-dev, gcc, cpp

Ciao,
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Re: xcontrib and xproc packages

1997-10-05 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
On  5 Oct, Paul Seelig wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 You could also fetch Paul Seelig's equivs package from 
 http://www.uni-mainz.de/~pseelig/debian.html
 This is a dummy package. You can place elf-x11r6lib into provides:
 and rebuild it (instructions how to do this should be inside the
 package by now). Then you install it using --force-conflicts.
 This way you will have a package which provides elf-x11r6lib and
 dselect/dpkg won't complain any more.
 
 Actually --force-conflicts should not be needed for properly
 installing 'equivs'.  I always use --install only without any
 trouble.  But if it does need such measures than it is either
 misconfigured by the person having built it or it simply contains a
 bug still unknown to me.  If the latter is the case i'd be glad about
 hints and fixes!

Of cause it does work with --install. But this is a special case.
The following only applies to the unstable tree:

xlib6 has once provided elf-x11r6lib and X programms had a depend on
this virtual package. But elf-x11r6lib has been dropped and xlib6 now
conflicts with it. But there are still clients which depends on the
package (they have bugreports filed against this).

The reason why one wants equivs provide elf-x11r6lib is that dselect
won't complain any more. To get around this anomaly one has to install
equivs with --force-conflicts.

In other cases you are right of cause.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: mono monitor with x

1997-10-05 Thread Lazar Fleysher
Attached is my XF86Config which I use  
I am very new to linux so this file is not clean yet, but it works... 
I have an old 386 20MHz with 6.5M RAM, Hercules monitor and MDA with a
parallel port on it...
If you are working on a similar system, be aware that it takes ~3min to
load X.( for Linux three minutes too)

Good luck,

ZORO
# File generated by xf86config.

#
# Copyright (c) 1995 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the Software),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
# 
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
# 
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED AS IS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
# 
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of 
# this file.
# **

# **
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **

Section Files

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
# 
# If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other
# programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory
# to the end of this list (or comment them out).
# 

FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/

# For OSs that support Dynamically loaded modules, ModulePath can be
# used to set a search path for the modules.  This is currently supported
# for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x and NetBSD 1.x.  The default path is shown
# here.

#ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules

EndSection

# **
# Module section -- this is an optional section which is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.  Dynamically loadable
# modules are currently supported only for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x
# and NetBSD 1.x.  Currently, dynamically loadable modules are used
# only for some extended input (XInput) device drivers.
# **
#
# Section Module
#
# This loads the module for the Joystick driver
#
# Load xf86Jstk.so
# 
# EndSection

# **
# Server flags section.
# **

Section ServerFlags

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is 
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

#NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

#DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

#DontZoom

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

#   DisableVidModeExtension

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a 

Re: savelog with immediate compress

1997-10-05 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Debian List wrote:

 However, that would cause the useless creation of the .0 file because it
 will be nearly empty... :(  each savelog would take up 2 files.

It's just a shell script.  Copy it somewhere (so you're changes won't be
lost when a new savelog is installed) and open it up in an editor.  Where
it says it's compressing the files, remove the .0 extensions from the
variables and change the .1 to .0.

HTH,
Brandon

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one pentium, two vga adaptors, and linux?

1997-10-05 Thread Britton


Is this possible with the intel platform?  With linux?  Any idea where I
might go to read more about it if it is?

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mind you don't break 'em.  I won't eat a broken egg.  
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kde/Intrinsic.h

1997-10-05 Thread Paul Miller
I'm trying to build KDE and the configuration script says it can't find
X.. it's looking for a file called X11/Intrinsic.h .. does anyone know
which package contains this file?

-Paul


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xdm: killing xconsole after user logs on

1997-10-05 Thread Paul Miller
how can I do this?

Thanks
Paul


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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-05 Thread Lawrence
Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
 
 On Sat, Oct 04, 1997 at 11:28:24AM -0800, Britton wrote:
 
  On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:
 
   How well/is the AWE64 GOLD Sound card supported under Linux?  ..or will it
   act/function like the SB16?
 
  It will act like a SB16 yes, but this is nothing wonderful, as the SB16 is
  quite pathetic.  xmix is the only program I've run into with a line select
  (which you need since the SB 16 has no input mixer).
 
 And it should act like a AWE-32, because I have the suspicion, that they
 mostly enchanced the software driver, not the hardware. (I wouldn't be
 surprised, if the hardware is nearly the same. I have a AWE32 with the
 64upgrade, and they say that I have a functionally AWE64, so it is another
 sort of Winsoundcard)
 
  What you want is awedrv, which is available as a debian source package.
  Trouble is, it won't compile as a module, which I think means you have to
  use initrd to run isapnp before it will work.  I've read the initrd stuff,
 
 You HAVE to install it as a module, because isapnp must be started first,
 and then the sound module has to be installed. In fact, isapnp will be
 started automagically by the current initrd scripts, so you have just to
 install it, and add two entrys two the isapnp config file (mail me for more
 info).
 
  but havn't gotten around to trying it yet.  Am I right in my understanding
  that you just need to copy over a rescue disk, isapnp, and possible bash
  (to write initrc with) into the initrd environment?  Anyone done this?

How your isapnp.conf file looks like?  can you send it to me?

 
 You just have to install and congfigure isapnp, that it is (and add the
 sound module to the modules autoloaded at boot time, if you want. You can
 even load a sound font bank at boot time).

do you mean to let kerneld to load the sound module?


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Re: icq - java-version

1997-10-05 Thread Lawrence
where did you get the java version icq?

Toens Bueker wrote:
 
 Hi *,
 
 recently we had a discussion about the pros and cons of
 icq. I just wanted to check out the java-version. I
 installed jdk-1.0.2 and got these errors:
 
 java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no awt in shared library path
 at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary(Runtime.java)
 at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java)
 at sun.awt.motif.MToolkit.clinit(MToolkit.java:37)
 at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(Toolkit.java:199)
 at java.awt.Window.getToolkit(Window.java:163)
 
 What can I do?


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Re: xdm: killing xconsole after user logs on

1997-10-05 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 how can I do this?

You can do this in the Xstartup script, which is run as root after the
user has logged in and before the Xsession script is run. These scripts
are in /etc/X11/xdm on a Debian system. You can simply put a line killall
xconsole in Xstartup, but that could lead to undesired behaviour if
different users log in using X at the same time. If that never happens on
your computer, it's safe.

BTW, all scripts with names that end in _0 are used for display :0 (the
default local display), the other scripts are used for all displays (they
are used for all other displays, but the scripts for :0 source them,
except for the Xsetup_0 script). You can specify which scripts are used
for which displays in /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config.

See man xdm for more details.

Remco


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