Re: user questions

[Mark W. Eichin]

>The best chance of an answer is probably to post the questions 
>to one of the developer lists, if that is where the experts are

Actually, I've always made a point of ignoring user questions on the
developers list, but I've *also* started putting more time in on
debian-user.  (I've also gotten a fair number of personal emails with
"help me set up X", which I've also redirected to debian-user...
Consider that although I'm the X maintainer, I have *one* debian X
system at home, and *one* such system at work [the heathens there run
redhat :-( :-)] and that means I *don't* have experience with lots of
varieties of X hardware, whereas someone else on debian-user might
have run into the same problem you did...)


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Re: misc questions.

[john]

> 1. change the resolution / pixel depth of my x setup?

I'm not sure what you want here. Control-alt-keypad+ will cycle through the
available resolutions.  xf86config will let you interactively configure
your server.

> 2. make it work as a POP server (so i can continue to read mail on my
> mac)?

You could install qpopper or cucipop (the only pop servers on my 1.2 CD:
there may be others in 1.3), but that may be overkill.  Exactly what do you
wnat to do?  Do you need to have your mail stored on the mac, or do you
just want to read it there?
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Re: user questions

[john]

Sten Anderson writes:
> A list only for us newbies would result in a lot of questions and no
> answers.  We need a list that is read both by newbies and experienced
> users.

As I recall, the idea was that experienced users would explicitly assign
themselves to read and answer questions on debian-newbie.  I'm not sure it
would work, but the present systems doesn't seem to do it either.  

> The best chance of an answer is probably to post the questions to one of
> the developer lists, if that is where the experts are hiding.

That may get you answer to a question you didn't ask.  The experts are
"hiding" there so that they can get some work done.
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Re: misc questions.

[Sten Anderson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailing lists) writes:

> i have just installed debian on my first intel machine (i've had apples
> forever) and i have a couple of questions i hope someone doesn't mind
> answering for me. though i've checked out man pages, i haven't been able
> to figure these out on my own, though the answer may be easy ... so, what
> do i need to do to:
> 
> 1. change the resolution / pixel depth of my x setup?

You need to edit the file "/etc/X11/XF86Config". At the buttom of this 
file is a number of sections labled "Screen". One for each
server (driver). Find the section for the server you use (e.g. SVGA)
and insert the line "DefaultColorDepth 32" (or a number of your
choice). Now find the subsection that coresponds to that
colourdepth. There is a list of relolutions. Make sure that your
preferred resolution at that depth is the first in this list. 

* Sample *

Section "Screen"
   Driver  "SVGA"
   Device  "Primary Card"
   Monitor "Primary Monitor"
   DefaultColorDepth 32
 
[...cut...]
  
   SubSection "Display"
  Depth32
  Modes"1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" 
   EndSubSection
EndSection 

*** End sample ***

BTW: This is described in detail in "man XF86Config".

- Sten Anderson


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Tracing Spoof IP's

[Chi Wong]

Is there a way to detect / trace where the spoof ip addresses are coming
from? Or is it an impoosible task?


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Re: case statement question again...

[Mark W. Eichin]

>>[10-31]) SearchStr="$Month $Day";;

That means "a single character in the set 1, 0 through 3, and 1", so
it will match any of 0 1 2 3  and nothing else.

>>#   [12][0-9]) SearchStr="$Month $Day";;
>>#   30 | 31 ) Day=02; SearchStr="$Month  9";;

That's more like it; the [12][0-9] will match 10 through 29.


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Re: rvplayer installer

[Bob Nielsen]

On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:

> Nice package, btw.  I'd been struggling with rvplayer, and once I did the
> above, it installed and ran flawlessly. :):)

Is there any way to get it to work as a plugin for Netscape, short of
upgrading to hamm?  I understand the problem is really with bash-2.0
in bo.  Would downgrading to the rex version of bash work without
breaking something else?

Bob


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Re: less than useful dselect/dpkg error msg

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Sun, Nov 16, 1997 at 10:06:53PM +, Bill Leach wrote:
> OK, that was probably the case as fvwm2 is now working.  However, I do think 
> that it would be more useful is dselect/
> dpkg reported "configured".
> 
> Linux# dpkg --configure fvwm2
> dpkg: error processing fvwm2 (--configure):
>  package fvwm2 is not ready for configuration
>  cannot configure (current status `installed')
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  fvwm2
> 
> To me, that seems to be saying that fvwm2 still needs configuration but there 
> is something wrong.  Now I admit
> that this is no doubt due in part to my own ignorance.  I suspect now that if 
> the package was not configured that the parenthetical statement would read 
> something like:
> (current status 'unpacked') -- yes?

Something like that. I agree that "not ready for configuration"
is not the best message. Perhaps you could file a bug against dpkg?


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Re: using dpkg to "see" the contents of a package

[Martin Bialasinski]

On Sat, 15 Nov 1997, Tim Ferrell wrote:

> I am new to Debian, so this may be a somewhat stupid question... Is
> there a way to use dpkg to list the contents, etc. of a package that is
> not installed? I like to see what it is I am installing first, and when
> I used rpm I could query the contents first. Is there a dpkg equivalent?

As it was said before: dpkg --contents , but this is rather hidden in
dpkg --help

I heavily use mc to enter a deb package. Then I can even examine the
contents of the files inside without the need of dpkg --extract. It is
pretty neat.

Ciao,
Martin



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Re: user questions

[Martin Bialasinski]

On 16 Nov 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> When I see questions about Debian in the newsgroups I usually email an
> offer of help.  Often the only help I can offer is the suggestion to ask on
> debian-user.  Often the response is "I tried that but nobody answered me".
> 
Posibility 1 : Noone knew the answer
Posibility 2 : Noone wanted to answer (don't know how likely that is)
Posibility 3 : Someone answered, but only to the list.

Usually I (and maybe others as well) just answer to the list, not
personally. So if he was not subscribed, he can't read the answers (except
via the list archive).

Ciao,
Martin



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Re: dselect problems

[Martin Bialasinski]

On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Nathan A Pelton wrote:

> My HD is partitioned accordingly:
> 30mb for thr root directory /
> 450mb for /usr
> 50mb for swap space
> 1000mb for home directories /usr/local  
> 0mb for /tmp
> 40mb for /var  

>   I will be the sole user on this system.  Is there a better way to
> arrange these directories on the partitions?  

Once you have partition your disk, you can't change your setup that easy.
Symlinks can help to some extend.

>   I started dselect up and selected all and started the install
> process.  It installed everything to my root directory! :(  I was told by
> someone to mount the directories to the partitions.  How do I do this?

This was a optin during installation ("Mount initialised partition" or
such). First I'd check what setup you have.

df

will show you what partitions are mounted currently and how much space you
already used.

cat /etc/fstab

will show what partitions get mounted during boot.

fdisk -l

will show how you have partitioned your harddisk (0 MB for /tmp and 1000
MB for /home ? This can't be right).

Post the output from all three commands to the list, please.

Ciao,
Martin 


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Re: Smail Alias Help

[Martin Bialasinski]

On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Mike Nachlinger wrote:

> "alias -p" reveals no aliases on my system.
> 
This will show your bash aliases and has nothing to do with smail.

> Running "mkaliases /etc/aliases" returns 
> "/usr/sbin/mkaliases: unknown file type, , for aliases"
> I've modified /etc/aliases with the addition majordomo aliases.
> Mail to majordomo is routed to postmaster
> This happens on the saved dist. file also.
> MTA is smail.

I also was confused but this is what I found out. Smail doesn't need a
mkaliases run (at least not for plain test /etc/aliases), so nothing to
worry about. If you want to get rid of this errormessage, then edit
/usr/lib/smail/mkaliases and edit the line ALIASES_TYPE='' to
ALIASES_TYPE='lsearch' (don't use bsearch, this has cost me my aliases
file and some hair as well :-). Maybe you want to save your /etc/aliases
file prior to a testrun with the modified mkaliases.

Ciao,
Martin


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RE: misc questions.

[George Bonser]

On 16-Nov-97 mailing lists wrote:
> 2. make it work as a POP server (so i can continue to read mail on my mac)?

I can help with this one ... install either the qpopper or cucipop packages.
Takes about a minute and they hit the ground running, no additional
configuration needed.


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misc questions.

[mailing lists]

i have just installed debian on my first intel machine (i've had apples
forever) and i have a couple of questions i hope someone doesn't mind
answering for me. though i've checked out man pages, i haven't been able
to figure these out on my own, though the answer may be easy ... so, what
do i need to do to:

1. change the resolution / pixel depth of my x setup?
2. make it work as a POP server (so i can continue to read mail on my mac)?

thanks very much.

aaron brick.




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Re: user questions

[Sten Anderson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> >From a recent posting on comp.os.linux.setup:
> 
> > Support from the Debian list was practically non-existant. One reply came
> > on the mailing list in response to a question: not very helpful.
> 
> This guy dumped Debian in favor of Red Hat.
> 
> When I see questions about Debian in the newsgroups I usually email an
> offer of help.  Often the only help I can offer is the suggestion to ask on
> debian-user.  Often the response is "I tried that but nobody answered me".
> 
> Maybe debian-newbie is needed after all?

A list only for us newbies would result in a lot of questions and no
answers.  We need a list that is read both by newbies and experienced
users.  

The best chance of an answer is probably to post the questions 
to one of the developer lists, if that is where the experts are
hiding. 

- Sten Anderson 


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Re: Java: AWT

[Alex Yukhimets]

> >What java version are you using? jdk-shared/static (1.0.2) from non-free,
> >jdk1.1.3 from hamm/non-free, jdk1.x.x from blackdown.org or jdk1.1.4 from
> >Sergey Nikitin? (There are a lot of options, as you can see :)
> 
> I'm running the version from the javac package on the Cheap*Bytes 1.3 discs:
> 
> Kaffe Virtual Machine
> Copyright (c) 1997 T. J. Wilkinson & Associates, London, UK.
> Engine: Just-in-time   Version: 0.71

Oh, you are using kaffe... that's a different story. I never did that
myself but I think you would have to install biss-awt to be able to
use awt java package API.

I would recommend downloading and installing trusted jdk-* packages
from ftp.debian.org/debian/non-free/binary/ . I know that it is much 
slower than kaffe, but at least it is a standard Sun release. 


> >
> >I am running succesfully jdk-shared and jdk1.1.3 from blackdown, but
> >getting exactly the same error every time I try to install jdk1.1.4
> >from Nikitin.
> 
> I wonder if it is a seprate package...?

You mean debian package? Then no. There is a debian package only for
jdk1.1.3.

Alex Y.

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Re: less than useful dselect/dpkg error msg

[Bill Leach]

OK, that was probably the case as fvwm2 is now working.  However, I do think 
that it would be more useful is dselect/
dpkg reported "configured".

Linux# dpkg --configure fvwm2
dpkg: error processing fvwm2 (--configure):
 package fvwm2 is not ready for configuration
 cannot configure (current status `installed')
Errors were encountered while processing:
 fvwm2

To me, that seems to be saying that fvwm2 still needs configuration but there 
is something wrong.  Now I admit
that this is no doubt due in part to my own ignorance.  I suspect now that if 
the package was not configured that the parenthetical statement would read 
something like:
(current status 'unpacked') -- yes?

best,
-bill


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Re: Java: AWT

[Alex Yukhimets]

> Ok, I've been dinking around with JAVA text applications, and I finally 
> decided
> to make the break into graphics. Everything works fine until I try to run a 
> program that uses the awt library, and then I get:
> 
> java/lang/UnsatisfiedLinkError: no awt in shared library path
> at java/lang/Throwable.(0x80d9a21)
> at java/lang/Error.(0x80d9997)
> at java/lang/LinkageError.(0x80d992f)
> at java/lang/UnsatisfiedLinkError.(0x80d98c7)
> at java/lang/Runtime.loadLibrary(0x80d8188)
> at java/lang/System.loadLibrary(0x80d694c)
> at sun/awt/motif/MToolkit.(0x80d6843)

That's interesting!
What java version are you using? jdk-shared/static (1.0.2) from non-free,
jdk1.1.3 from hamm/non-free, jdk1.x.x from blackdown.org or jdk1.1.4 from
Sergey Nikitin? (There are a lot of options, as you can see :)

I am running succesfully jdk-shared and jdk1.1.3 from blackdown, but
getting exactly the same error every time I try to install jdk1.1.4
from Nikitin.

Alex Y.

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Java: AWT

[Mike Patterson]

Ok, I've been dinking around with JAVA text applications, and I finally decided
to make the break into graphics. Everything works fine until I try to run a 
program that uses the awt library, and then I get:

java/lang/UnsatisfiedLinkError: no awt in shared library path
at java/lang/Throwable.(0x80d9a21)
at java/lang/Error.(0x80d9997)
at java/lang/LinkageError.(0x80d992f)
at java/lang/UnsatisfiedLinkError.(0x80d98c7)
at java/lang/Runtime.loadLibrary(0x80d8188)
at java/lang/System.loadLibrary(0x80d694c)
at sun/awt/motif/MToolkit.(0x80d6843)


The awt library doesn't seem to be obviously located... Can anyone tell me 
where I can find it?


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Re: X11 Installation

[Alex Yukhimets]

> I have a few problems installing X11 on my Debian system; it seems that
> the video will not work. I have a Matrox Millenium-II card (w/ 4MB WRAM)
> and a 15" NEC MultiSync 4FG monitor. I looked up compatibility problems
> and I have seen that the Matrox Millenium-II is not compatible with
> XFree86, even if the Millenium and Mystique are. I tried using
> "Unsupported VGA card" and "Standard VGA monitor"; the tests of the X
> server work fine, but when I load xdm, the computer freezes. Can anyone
> help? Thanks.

Jeff,

you card is supported (partially at least) by Xfree86-3.1.1 release.
Debian doesn't have this release in stable. I would suggest you
to install debian packages for xserver-svga and -vga16, download
only SVGA server from xfree86 site and copy it over existing server
installed by debian package in /usr/X11R6/bin/. Fire up XF86Setup
and configure the server for your card.

Goos luck.

Alex Y.
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Re: rvplayer installer

[Joey Hess]

Matt Thompson wrote:
> The package in ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/pub/debian/Incoming/ looks for
> 5.0b1, but the archive at RealAudio's site contains 5.0b2.  I was able to
> unpack the archive, rename everything and repack it and it works fine now.
> I was just wondering if this package could/should be changed to reflect
> the current archive at RealAudio? :)

Yes, it should. Thanks for the heads-up, I'll update my package.

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Re: apologies and fix for fetchmail

[Martin Bialasinski]

On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Dima wrote:

> I upgraded fetchmail to 4.3.2-1 and did some rtfm'ing -- that
> helped.  New fetchmail wants to be told where to deliver mail:
> add eg. "smtphost localhost" to your .fetchmailrc.  Don't forget
> to check if your MTA knows "localhost" is "this box here".
> It turns out that qmail doesn't know that -- hence the bounces.

I also encountered this "feature" some time ago, when I upgraded
fetchmail 3.8, but thought I made a mistake somwhere (well this is right
somehow). 

> 

Maybe you could file a bugreport against fetchmail to include such a
warning.

Debian the distributions where dreams come true :-)

Ciao,
Martin



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Re: telnet problems with german umlauts

[Martin Bialasinski]

On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:

> Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> > I have two boxes running debian 1.3 ( +some stauff from hamm).
> > If I telnet from one box to the other one, I can't type in äöüß any more.
> 
> Try   alias telnet='telnet -L'
> 
Hi,

works great :-) Thanks for your help.

Ciao,
Martin




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help - CDrom file format

[JD Thomlinson]

I've got a CD that won't mount under Win31 or FreeBSD 
2.2.2 (yeah, I'm working on getting them to install 
Debian ;) ).

Naturally, Debian (2.0.39) has no problem mounting and 
reading the directory structure.

Can anyone give me pointers to a Debian utility that could 
give me the file system type that Debian so sucessfully 
has mounted? Apparently it's not iso9660, or at least 
FBSD won't mount it as iso9660. FBSD will mount other CDs 
as iso9660. The CD is supposedly accessible by Unix, Win 95 
& NT, and Mac. I have managed to refuse to install Win 95 & 
NT so far, and am not about to start. 

Any potential help or pointers will be appreciated!

Best Regards, JohnT
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rvplayer installer

[Matt Thompson]

The package in ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/pub/debian/Incoming/ looks for
5.0b1, but the archive at RealAudio's site contains 5.0b2.  I was able to
unpack the archive, rename everything and repack it and it works fine now.
I was just wondering if this package could/should be changed to reflect
the current archive at RealAudio? :)

Nice package, btw.  I'd been struggling with rvplayer, and once I did the
above, it installed and ran flawlessly. :):)

Thanks.

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Re: X11 Installation

[Ben Pfaff]

Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jeff Alami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I have a few problems installing X11 on my Debian system; it seems that
> > the video will not work. I have a Matrox Millenium-II card (w/ 4MB WRAM)
> > and a 15" NEC MultiSync 4FG monitor. I looked up compatibility problems
> > and I have seen that the Matrox Millenium-II is not compatible with
> > XFree86, even if the Millenium and Mystique are. I tried using
> > "Unsupported VGA card" and "Standard VGA monitor"; the tests of the X
> > server work fine, but when I load xdm, the computer freezes. Can anyone
> > help? Thanks.
> 
> My Matrox Millenium II works fine.  Are you using XF86Setup to
> configure X?  The older xf86config does not support Millenium IIs.
> Just select `Matrox Millenium II' on the list of video cards.  Don't
> use Detailed setup.

Oops.  I forgot to mention, the Millenium II only works in 3.3.1,
which is available only in unstable.  You will have to install 3.3.1
before using the Millenium II, I think.
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Re: finding myself on DDS-2 tape...

[Torsten Hilbrich]

Tim Ferrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there a formula for determining what percentage of tape I have
> left after a backup? I use 'mt tell' to get the current block on
> tape - how do I know how many blocks are on the tape? I am using a
> 4-8GB DAT drive with 90m and 120m tapes. I just need some kind of
> idea of how much tape is left...

If you use tar with the default 10k block size you can use 'mt tell'
and multiply it by the block size.  I don't know any way to get the
number of blocks that are still free.  

If you don't use hardware compression you can once write full all the
tape and use mt tell to get the number of blocks written.  This number
should not change for other backups (unless you are writing more than
one file or using the setmarks).  

Hardware compression is a different story, no idea here (mt tells the
number of blocks written of uncompressed data, there is no way to know
how many compressed blocks have been written).

If you get more information please let me know.

Torsten

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Re: access to mount filesystems

[Torsten Hilbrich]

Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I want users only in certain groups to be able to mount specific
> filesystems.. eg
> 
> floppy = /dev/fd0 (floppy drive)
> cdrom = /dev/hdd (ide cdrom)
> staff /dev/hda1 (dos)
> 
>  If I use the user option in fstab, all users can mount the fs..  and
> I'd rather not make scripts because some programs use the mount command
> for mounting...

Create a group for floppy access (say 103) and dos (say 104).

If you use the gid=103 (floppy) and umask=227 you can limit the
*access* to file systems like vfat, msdos.  The mounting will be
possible but users not in floppy (or whatever you use here) will have
no access to the mounted filesystem.  I have no idea about iso9660
with Rockridge extension (which has its own file permissions stored).
My cdrom (/dev/scd0) has the permissions: "brw-rw 1 root cdrom "
but this won't help you with IDE drives.

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Re: X11 Installation

[Ben Pfaff]

Jeff Alami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a few problems installing X11 on my Debian system; it seems that
> the video will not work. I have a Matrox Millenium-II card (w/ 4MB WRAM)
> and a 15" NEC MultiSync 4FG monitor. I looked up compatibility problems
> and I have seen that the Matrox Millenium-II is not compatible with
> XFree86, even if the Millenium and Mystique are. I tried using
> "Unsupported VGA card" and "Standard VGA monitor"; the tests of the X
> server work fine, but when I load xdm, the computer freezes. Can anyone
> help? Thanks.

My Matrox Millenium II works fine.  Are you using XF86Setup to
configure X?  The older xf86config does not support Millenium IIs.
Just select `Matrox Millenium II' on the list of video cards.  Don't
use Detailed setup.
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Smail Alias Help

[Mike Nachlinger]

"alias -p" reveals no aliases on my system.

Running "mkaliases /etc/aliases" returns 
"/usr/sbin/mkaliases: unknown file type, , for aliases"
I've modified /etc/aliases with the addition majordomo aliases.
Mail to majordomo is routed to postmaster
This happens on the saved dist. file also.
MTA is smail.
I've read /usr/doc/smail, majordomo, etc.
man alias, smailconf, mkaliases, newaliases

Ain't got a clue - any suggestions?

Mike

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X11 Installation

[Jeff Alami]

I have a few problems installing X11 on my Debian system; it seems that
the video will not work. I have a Matrox Millenium-II card (w/ 4MB WRAM)
and a 15" NEC MultiSync 4FG monitor. I looked up compatibility problems
and I have seen that the Matrox Millenium-II is not compatible with
XFree86, even if the Millenium and Mystique are. I tried using
"Unsupported VGA card" and "Standard VGA monitor"; the tests of the X
server work fine, but when I load xdm, the computer freezes. Can anyone
help? Thanks.

Jeff Alami
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X11 Installation

[Jeff Alami]

I have a few problems installing X11 on my Debian system; it seems that
the video will not work. I have a Matrox Millenium-II card (w/ 4MB WRAM)
and a 15" NEC MultiSync 4FG monitor. I looked up compatibility problems
and I have seen that the Matrox Millenium-II is not compatible with
XFree86, even if the Millenium and Mystique are. I tried using
"Unsupported VGA card" and "Standard VGA monitor"; the tests of the X
server work fine, but when I load xdm, the computer freezes. Can anyone
help? Thanks.

Jeff


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Re: Pentium bug: unbelievable behavior

[joost witteveen]

> The page
> http://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium/ppiie/software.htm
> contains comments from the main OS vendors on what they have done to
> solve the problem.
> 
> I can't beleive there are OS vendors like Sun, Novell, Microsoft, etc
> that say that they are not affected by the bug because they require
> user authentication to be able to run programs in the OS's, or that
> they haven't heard of problems from their customers. Gosh!!! This is
> unbelievable!!!

Why? I don't see anything strange/stupid in Microsoft's responce on
the page you mention: On Win3.11/95, as far as I know, there isn't
much difference between what we call "user" and "root", so any
user can already lock the machine solid. That there is another
5-byte opcode that also does it, is rather irrelevant for Win3.11.

And SunSoft's responce is quite "commercially right" too. Play
down the importance of the problem as long as you can (i.e., until
you have a patch). Anyway, I don't think there are too many people
running SlowLaris on x86 machines, so the problem isn't that big for
SunSoft.

Oh, and I don't know enough about Novel's network operating 
system NetWare/IntranetWare. If it's only a "nework system", that
doesn't allow execution of random bits of code, then what they
say is true. Same holds for a Linux-2.0.31 Samba/NFS fileserver,
you cannot crash that with the f00f bug either.

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user questions

[john]

>From a recent posting on comp.os.linux.setup:

> Support from the Debian list was practically non-existant. One reply came
> on the mailing list in response to a question: not very helpful.

This guy dumped Debian in favor of Red Hat.

When I see questions about Debian in the newsgroups I usually email an
offer of help.  Often the only help I can offer is the suggestion to ask on
debian-user.  Often the response is "I tried that but nobody answered me".

Maybe debian-newbie is needed after all?
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Re: using dpkg to "see" the contents of a package

[Amos Shapira]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
| Look at the results of dpkg-deb --help.  The -c or -I options may
|be what you want.

'dpkg -c package.deb' is the command the original poster is looking for.

The nice thing about .deb files is that they use standard UNIX formats -
ar(1) and tar(1), so you can do something like:

|butch| ar tv dpkg_1.4.0.19.deb
rw-r--r-- 0/0  4 Jul 14 08:52 1997 debian-binary
rw-r--r-- 0/0   4043 Jul 14 08:52 1997 control.tar.gz
rw-r--r-- 0/0 464058 Jul 14 08:52 1997 data.tar.gz
|butch| ar p dpkg_1.4.0.19.deb data.tar.gz | tar ztvf - | head 
drwxr-xr-x klee/klee 0 1997-07-14 08:50 ./
drwxr-xr-x klee/klee 0 1997-07-14 08:51 etc/
drwxr-xr-x klee/klee 0 1997-07-14 08:48 etc/dpkg/
drwxr-xr-x klee/klee 0 1997-07-14 08:51 etc/alternatives/
drwxr-xr-x klee/klee 0 1997-07-14 08:51 usr/
drwxr-xr-x klee/klee 0 1997-07-14 08:48 usr/doc/
drwxr-xr-x klee/klee 0 1997-07-14 08:51 usr/doc/dpkg/
-rw-r--r-- klee/klee  1810 1997-07-14 08:51 usr/doc/dpkg/copyright
drwxr-xr-x klee/klee 0 1997-07-14 08:51 usr/doc/dpkg/packaging.html/
-rw-r--r-- klee/klee  5920 1997-07-14 08:51 
usr/doc/dpkg/packaging.html/index.html
|butch| 

Isn't UNIX lovely? :-)

(The advantage?  I was able to manipulate .deb files under SGI IRIX
because of this fact)

Cheers,

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Re: [off-topic] Pentium bug: unbelievable behavior

[Ben Pfaff]

Martin Bialasinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sure this doesn't affect M$. I am awaiting a news virus which triggers F0
> 0F C7 C8 at random times instead of deleting the disk (or even both). And
> what was the URL again where you can get this fine F0 0F C7 C8 Active X
> control...

Has anyone else here noticed that F00F looks like cracker-speak for
"foof"?  Foof... your programs go up in a cloud of smoke...
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[off-topic] Pentium bug: unbelievable behavior

[Martin Bialasinski]

On 16 Nov 1997, Eloy A. Paris wrote:

> I can't beleive there are OS vendors like Sun, Novell, Microsoft, etc
> that say that they are not affected by the bug because they require
> user authentication to be able to run programs in the OS's, or that
> they haven't heard of problems from their customers. Gosh!!! This is
> unbelievable!!!

Sure this doesn't affect M$. I am awaiting a news virus which triggers F0
0F C7 C8 at random times instead of deleting the disk (or even both). And
what was the URL again where you can get this fine F0 0F C7 C8 Active X
control...

Ciao,
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dselect problems

[Nathan A Pelton]

My HD is partitioned accordingly:
30mb for thr root directory /
450mb for /usr
50mb for swap space
1000mb for home directories /usr/local  
0mb for /tmp
40mb for /var  
I will be the sole user on this system.  Is there a better way to
arrange these directories on the partitions?  
I started dselect up and selected all and started the install
process.  It installed everything to my root directory! :(  I was told by
someone to mount the directories to the partitions.  How do I do this?
Thanks for your help,
Nathan


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Debian User's Manual

[Ardo van Rangelrooij]

Hi!

Always wanted to contribute to the Debian project, but never knew how?
Please read on for some very interesting possibilities! 

You may have heard about the Debian Documentation Project (or DDP for
short).  The goal of this project is to write a set of manuals for 
Debian.  One of the manuals to be written is the Debian User's Manual
(not to be confused with the recently published Debian Linux User's
Guide :-).  Some time ago we started setting up this manual and writing
some chapters for it.  It's still in a rather preliminary state, but
it's definitely going somewhere.  However, there's quite a lot to
write about and only so little time. 

So, we're calling out to you, the Debian users, to join this effort
and to share your knowledge about using Debian with others.  Any
contribution is welcome: just a few sections, a complete chapter, or
even a couple of chapters.  Although the DDP's documentation source
format is SGML (using the template and tools of the debiandoc-sgml
package), we accept contributions in other formats as well, so there's
no need to learn anything special for you to start writing now!

If you're interested in joining the Debian User's Manual team, 
please contact me outside this list so we can work out the details. 

If you want to know more about the DDP, see our home page at 

http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-doc/

or contact Christian Schwarz at 

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Hope to read from you soon! 

Greetings,

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apologies and fix for fetchmail

[Dima]

Apologies to Raul and everyone who got bounces from me.

I upgraded fetchmail to 4.3.2-1 and did some rtfm'ing -- that
helped.  New fetchmail wants to be told where to deliver mail:
add eg. "smtphost localhost" to your .fetchmailrc.  Don't forget
to check if your MTA knows "localhost" is "this box here".
It turns out that qmail doesn't know that -- hence the bounces.


I'd love to see VERY BIG WARNING repeatedly printed by a postinst 
script when a program's behaviour has changed in the new version 
- especially when it's one of the base programs, daemons, or has 
something to do with mail delivery.


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Re: less than useful dselect/dpkg error msg

[Dale Scheetz]

On Sat, 15 Nov 1997, Bill Leach wrote:

> Receiving error messages such as the following:
> 
>   Linux# dpkg --configure fvwm2
>dpkg: error processing fvwm2 (--configure):
>package fvwm2 is not ready for configuration
>cannot configure (current status `installed')
>   Errors were encountered while processing:
>fvwm2
>   Linux#
> 
> are pretty much useless.  This sort of error message reminds
> me of Red Hat's RPM!

Ooooh, that was nasty ;-)

> 
> What causes this sort of information free error message?
> Does dpkg honor the 'hold' status in the status file when it
> is placed there by dselect (that is when dpkg is run manually from the 
> command line)?
> 
I'm not conversant with dpkg internals enough to tell you where that "less
than useful" error message originates. Was the package really on Hold
status?

As far as I can tell, dpkg honors the hold in the status file, unless you
include --force-hold as an option on the command line. (It can't tell
whether dselect put the Hold there, or some editor, but that is another
issue)

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: Window Managers..

[Dale Scheetz]

On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Zach Wilkes wrote:

> okay I've used linux for a little bit now but I have yet to figure
> this one out..  How do you change the window manager for X?   and
> where does one get new window managers? I was reading boot magazine
> the other day and it had an article on linux and it had a picture of a
> really cool geiger-esque window manager and I was wondering where one
> would get something like that..
> 
>   Thanx,
>  Zach
>  
First, I would encourage you to take a look at my book (there is a freely
distributable html version of the book available at www.linuxpress.com,
where you can order the print version of the book as well)

In chapter 5, on X11 installation, page 136 gives a list of available
window manager for 1.3 along with some explanation on installation.

When you install a new window manager package it will ask you if you wish
this window manager to be the default. If you say yes it will add that WM
to the top of the list in /etc/X11/window-managers. If you start your
server with xdm, that is the window manager that will come up. (This may
also work for other methods {like startx} but I am only familiar with xdm)

Luck,

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Re: Window Managers..

[Tim Ferrell]

On 16 Nov, Zach Wilkes let loose with:
> okay I've used linux for a little bit now but I have yet to figure
> this one out..  How do you change the window manager for X?   and
> where does one get new window managers? I was reading boot magazine
> the other day and it had an article on linux and it had a picture of a
> really cool geiger-esque window manager and I was wondering where one
> would get something like that..
> 
>   Thanx,
>  Zach

Hey Zach - 

The window manager in question was Enlightenment, which you can get
from http://www.mandrake.net/e/ (follow the link to the ftp directory
on the download page) There you will find a debian-deb directory. Be
aware, however, that last I checked those packages were not up to date
- you would be better of getting the tar.gz package. Everything
installs to /usr/local/enlightenment so removing it would not be a
problem... but why would you want to do that?! 

To change your window manager, simply create a file called .xinitrc in
your home directory that looks like this:

- begin sample -

#!/bin/bash

xset m 6 3 &
xset s off &
exec enlightenment

- end -

The first two commands setup the mouse and screen blanking (see the
xset man page for more details) and then the last line calls the window
manager of your choosing. Make sure to not put the & after the line
that calls the wm...

HTH,
- Tim

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Re: telnet problems with german umlauts

[Santiago Vila Doncel]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> I have two boxes running debian 1.3 ( +some stauff from hamm).
> If I telnet from one box to the other one, I can't type in äöüß any more.

Try   alias telnet='telnet -L'

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Version: 2.6.3i
Charset: latin1

iQCVAgUBNG8j+yqK7IlOjMLFAQHa9QQAqV+iMvGOroEKWyuyMMcNUDrIBNsy7YfX
J55+3hbBR7Q5pfxztiDxW0rc+ZYV5Uh22wAkMAr3MNVGx9jz01Zj4Pga7W4BLhom
yeYENlQrwz6Ik6iP2oUiJw9M9B2JWCcNk6DOEPVN9jC25Kll/GfDxdFSuHxoB87z
9PN/nYDrzeU=
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Hardware question

[Pablo Ares Gastesi]

Hello,
I am new to this mail list, although I have followed other
Debian lists for more than a year. I would like to know if some one has
booted LINUX in any of the following machines:

DELL PowerEdge 4200, Pentium-II 266 or 300 MHz) single or dual processor 

or

any Digital Prioris HX6000 series.

I want to buy one of the machines above, but first I wanna be
sure I will be able to install LINUX. I know that LINUX boots in the
PowerEdge 4100, but that model is not sold any more.

You can answer directly to me, if you prefer.

Thanks.
Pablo.

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Re: Window Managers..

[Will Lowe]

On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Zach Wilkes wrote:

> this one out..  How do you change the window manager for X?   and
> where does one get new window managers? I was reading boot magazine

We have many window manager packages -- fvwm,  fvwm95,  fvwm2,  olvwm,
kde,  even more -- just look under X11 on the website.

Basically,  to change window managers,  edit your ~/.xsession file,  and
make the last line be the name of the window manager you want to run.  For
example,  here's my .xsession,  which starts up a bunch of utilities and
then runs kwm:

#!/bin/sh
# .xsession script to start x
#
# Edited Sat Aug 9 Will Lowe

xset b 40 300 100   # change default system beep
xset +dpms  # enable monitor power save mode
xset dpms 500 2000 3000 # set blank/sleep/off times for monitor
xset m 8 10 # set up mouse acceleration
kfm &
kdisplay -init&
kpanel &
krootwm &
exec kwm 


NOTE that most entries end in "&" except the last one.





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Re: kernel error message at boot

[Donald R. Harter Jr.]

Here is a repost of the kernel message log.  It should be OK now with cr
and lf unless msdos edit has changed under w95.

Donald Harter Jr.

Nov  1 14:54:30 domain kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
Nov  1 14:54:30 domain kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating.
Nov  1 14:54:30 domain syslogd: exiting on signal 15
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain syslogd 1.3-3#17: restart.
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg
started.
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Loaded 3393 symbols from /System.map.
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.0.30.
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Loaded 1 symbol from 1 module.
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: d881 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Probing PCI hardware. 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Warning : Unknown PCI device (102b:51b).
Please read include/linux/pci.h  
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 398.13
BogoMIPS 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Memory: 31020k/32768k available (636k
kernel code, 384k reserved, 728k data) 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Swansea University Computer Society
NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux
NET3.035. 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP
for NET3.034 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using
exception 16 error reporting. 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok. 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Linux version 2.0.30 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc
version 2.7.2.1) #2 Sat Nov 1 14:49:40 EST 1997 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial
options enabled 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: lp1 at 0x0378, (polling) 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected --
driver installed. 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of
4096K size 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: loop: registered device at major 7 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0
function 57 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: hda: IBM-DHEA-36480, 6150MB w/476kB Cache,
LBA, CHS=784/255/63, DMA 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: hdc: TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6102B, ATAPI CDROM
drive 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Started kswapd v 1.4.2.2  
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel
allocation) 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: TCP compression code copyright 1989 Regents
of the University of California 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: PPP Dynamic channel allocation code
copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc. 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: PPP line discipline registered. 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Partition check: 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel:  hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
readonly. 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Adding Swap: 80320k swap-space (priority
-1) 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at
virtual address c28105c3 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 01d68000, ^_r3 =
01d68000 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: *pde = 0009e067 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: *pte =  
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Oops:  
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: CPU:0 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: EIP:0010:[<028105c3>] 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: EFLAGS: 00010246 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: eax:    ebx: 0100   ecx:
02810548   edx:  
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: esi: 01d69f24   edi: 002a   ebp:
01dd8a98   esp: 01cfcff8 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   fs: 002b   gs: 002b
ss: 0018 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Process insmod (pid: 35, process nr: 15,
stackpage=01cfc000) 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Stack: 02810548 01cfd018  
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Call Trace: [<02810548>]  
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Code: <1>Unable to handle kernel paging
request at virtual address c28105c3 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 01d68000, ^_r3 =
01d68000 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: *pde = 0009e067 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: *pte =  
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: Oops:  
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: CPU:0 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: EIP:0010:[die_if_kernel+640/704] 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: EFLAGS: 00010202 
Nov  1 14:55:32 domain kernel: eax: 00

Window Managers..

[Zach Wilkes]

okay I've used linux for a little bit now but I have yet to figure
this one out..  How do you change the window manager for X?   and
where does one get new window managers? I was reading boot magazine
the other day and it had an article on linux and it had a picture of a
really cool geiger-esque window manager and I was wondering where one
would get something like that..

  Thanx,
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Problem Installing Debian Linux

[Rob Green]

Hello tried to install Debian the other nite.
I have partitioned my drive 750-250Mbs for debian on the 250Mbs
I boot the rescue disk and it starts install
then it reaches this error message

Probing PCI hardware
Warning unknown PCI device (1039:5107) please read include/linux/pci.h

As i have not installed it yet i cannot read this file..
I am trying to install Debian on my Laptop (IPC model 6400AD)

below i am including what i have for a system:
Power Management
Direct memory Access controller
Motherboard resources
numeric data processor
PCI bus
Plug and Play (plug and prey) BIOS
Programmable Interrupt Controller
Silicon Integrated System PCI to ISA bridge
Silicon Integrated System Pentium(r) to PCI bridge (original)
System Board
System Board extension for PnP BIOS
System CMOS/real time clock
System Speaker
System Timer

all this is running under Win95b right now

Could someone please assist me in installing Debian Linux
Thank you very much
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Re: using dpkg to "see" the contents of a package

[Robert D. Hilliard]

 Look at the results of dpkg-deb --help.  The -c or -I options may
be what you want.

Bob

Tim Ferrell wrote:
> I am new to Debian, so this may be a somewhat stupid question... Is
> there a way to use dpkg to list the contents, etc. of a package that is
> not installed? I like to see what it is I am installing first, and when
> I used rpm I could query the contents first. Is there a dpkg equivalent?


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Pentium bug: unbelievable behavior

[Eloy A. Paris]

Hello people,

I just found the official Web page for the Pentium Invalid Instruction
bug.

The page
http://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium/ppiie/software.htm
contains comments from the main OS vendors on what they have done to
solve the problem.

I can't beleive there are OS vendors like Sun, Novell, Microsoft, etc
that say that they are not affected by the bug because they require
user authentication to be able to run programs in the OS's, or that
they haven't heard of problems from their customers. Gosh!!! This is
unbelievable!!!

Look, on the other hand, the reference to what the Linux OS has done.

I am so proud of Linux!

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anyone use cdroms from l debian book

[butch]

Hi,

I saw the book fronm linux press at J&R music world today. so has anyone
used the set, also what are your impressions?

allan bart


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Re: libc5 to libc6: purge or install *-dev?

[George Bonser]

Maybe I have an old version ... at the very end it finally mentiones the
conflict.  the last item in the howto.  I think it should be moved up to
where the lists of packages you need are mentioned.


On 16-Nov-97 joost witteveen wrote:
> 
> I'm sure that is mentioned in the libc5-libc6-mini-howto.
>> 
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RE: libc5 to libc6: purge or install *-dev?

[oehansen]

Þann 16-Nov-97 skrifar Jameson Burt:
> 
> Your libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt saves many people from ruinning their 
> operating systems.  A few changes could save a few more people.  When a
> person 
> ruins zher operating system by badly adding packages from hamm, zhe consumes 
> weeks of time.  You might save tens of people a hundred wasted hours each.
> 
  That's a really good point, one that was needed...

  But *notice*, that it is also possible to break your system by
upgrading in unstable (hamm)...

  Here are two issues, from hamm Locales, when a program that is using
glibc does setlocale, it does not get it's locale information from the
localedata that comes with glibc (namely /usr/share/i18n/locales), but
rather takes it from the older libc5 localeinfo /usr/share/locales (not
that *that* really matters, but it raises a question as to wether *other*
functions in glibc have an _overrride_ value).

  Many Unix programs are really careless about memory allocations, now
many programs will get 'SIGSEGV' and break, and the error occurs inside
free(), as free is called with a stray pointer either from a library or
from the program... this is because glibc has runtime options that allows
well constructed programs to use malloc and have it fast, but also to set
it secure for other programs.  And a lot of libraries and programs aren't
well constructed... and the default is for malloc to be _fast_ :(

...and two issues concerning GNU C++,

  The C++ package in hamm is not compiled with setlocale functioning.  So,
if you do setlocale in your program, and then 'printf("%.2f", value)' your
value will not print "100,00" even if your decimal point is set to ','...
as it should do.

  And using 'malloc' inside a C++ program, will corrupt it and _may_ cause
it to SIGSEGV at some point...


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Re: libc5 to libc6: purge or install *-dev?

[joost witteveen]

> > 
> > Your libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt saves many people from ruinning their 
> > operating systems.  A few changes could save a few more people.  When a
> > person 
> > ruins zher operating system by badly adding packages from hamm, zhe 
> > consumes 
> > weeks of time.  You might save tens of people a hundred wasted hours each.
> 
> Didn't save me.  I followd the instructions on an old test system here and
> STILL managed to blow it up. I was tired and cranky ... got to the part where 
> I
> manuall did a dpkg on libc6 ... but it conflicts with libc5 ... (dpkg -i
> libc6_2.0.4-1.i386.deb) so without thinking I did a dpkg -r --force depends
> libc5 thinking that my next command would be to install libc6 ... there was no
> next command on that system.

the libc5 from hamm doesn't conflict with libc6. So, you should have
installed the libc5 from hamm, before installing libc6.

I'm sure that is mentioned in the libc5-libc6-mini-howto.
> 


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apache rewrite

[Hamish Moffatt]

Any experts on apache rewrite commands?
I want to redirect http://somename.domain.com.au to
http://www.domain.com.au/~somename. someone is one particular
instance and does not need to be generic. somename.domain.com.au
is a cname to www.domain.com.au. It looks like RewriteRule
with a RewriteCond on %{HTTP_HOST} should work but I just can't
figure it out, and there aren't any examples of exactly this
in the documentation.


Thanks,
Hamish
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Re: Make-kpkg (3.28): Problems creating kernel_image

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
>>"Torsten" == Torsten Hilbrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Torsten> Let's say I just created a new kernel-image package using
Torsten> make-kpkg --revision 1.1 kernel_image ,

Torsten> accidently removed the ../kernel-image... file and want to
Torsten> recreate it.  If I type the above command I only get a "make:
Torsten> Nothing to be done for `kernel_image'." message.  If I use
Torsten> "make-kpkg clean" before everything works fine but takes some
Torsten> time to rebuild the kernel.

Torsten> Is this an indented behaviour (i.e. to be forced to clean the
Torsten> kernel before) or what am I doing wrong?

It _is_ intended behaviour, to make sure that nothing is done
 unless it has to be. What you need is to remove the file
 ./stamp-image and re-try make-kpg --revision 1.1 kernel_image.

make-kpkg-clean removes the file, but also removes other stamp
 files and .o files as well, so everything is re-built.

Hope this helps, and I apologize for the delay in replying.

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Re: less than useful dselect/dpkg error msg

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Sun, Nov 16, 1997 at 05:50:46AM +, Bill Leach wrote:
> Receiving error messages such as the following:
>   Linux# dpkg --configure fvwm2
>dpkg: error processing fvwm2 (--configure):
>package fvwm2 is not ready for configuration
>cannot configure (current status `installed')
>   Errors were encountered while processing:
>fvwm2
>   Linux#
> 
> are pretty much useless.  This sort of error message reminds
> me of Red Hat's RPM!
> 
> What causes this sort of information free error message?
> Does dpkg honor the 'hold' status in the status file when it
> is placed there by dselect (that is when dpkg is run manually from the 
> command line)?

The error message is less than friendly but there is no mention
of hold status; simply, it says that fvwm2 is not ready for
configuration because it is already installed. installed implies
configured. That is, the package needs no further processing
by dpkg, and you can't configure a package that has already been
configured (or not through dpkg at least).

As I understand it, hold means do not upgrade. dselect will tell
tell dpkg to ignore upgrades to the package, and I guess
dpkg-ftp would also ignore them. But "dpkg -i " will
do it anyway.


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RE: libc5 to libc6: purge or install *-dev?

[George Bonser]

> 
> Your libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt saves many people from ruinning their 
> operating systems.  A few changes could save a few more people.  When a
> person 
> ruins zher operating system by badly adding packages from hamm, zhe consumes 
> weeks of time.  You might save tens of people a hundred wasted hours each.

Didn't save me.  I followd the instructions on an old test system here and
STILL managed to blow it up. I was tired and cranky ... got to the part where I
manuall did a dpkg on libc6 ... but it conflicts with libc5 ... (dpkg -i
libc6_2.0.4-1.i386.deb) so without thinking I did a dpkg -r --force depends
libc5 thinking that my next command would be to install libc6 ... there was no
next command on that system.

Believe me, I am spitting nails right now. Since I can not seem to find any way
of installing the new distribution from scratch, only upgrading from stable, I
am more than a little frustrated.  I am reloading the stable base on that
system and am going to upgrade the default installed packages to the versions
on the ftp site and move my dpkg status file from yesterday back to the current
one and hope for the best.  In other words, I am installing base OVER my
current install, will upgrade the base packages back to where they were, move
the status file and hope I am back to where I was before I screwed up.

Seems kind of a chicken and egg problem to me right now but I will get it
sorted out, cant install libc6 'cause it conficts with libc5, can't remove
libc5, I am considering the Kavorkian method of point-and-click system admin at
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RE: Sendmail and email addresses with ip address

[George Bonser]

Put the IP address in brackets like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On 15-Nov-97 R. Chris Ross wrote:
>   If I send a message out via sendmail that has [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> format sendmail returns the message with an error that appears to be
> looking for ip_address to be a DNS that it can't find.  Is there a feature
> that I need to change in my sendmail.mc file?
> 
>   Chris
> 
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HELP! Broke X, vi

[Andrew J Tarr]

Cheerfully trying to edit a new file, I got into the help minibuffer to
find out an Xemacs command. I tried loading a file, and got an error
message. I moved to the *scratch* buffer, but that turned out to be the
help minibuffer also. I then kept deleting buffers until Xemacs died, with
a core dump. It asked me to use gdb on the core and email the output to
the bug-fixers. Because I had a text file called 'core' at one stage, I
ran vi on it figuring if it was a real core file I'd just see a whole lot
of gibberish. However vi died, and the xterm became unusable. After that,
vi died once incepted thereafter. 

 I tried rebooting the system, and startx resulted in the normal windows
and programs (just two xterms and swisswatch) but with white borders and
no Fvwm widgets. Moving the mouse changes the focus, but the mouse buttons
no longer function, consquently I can't move the windows or get the Fvwm
menu up to quit the program. Killing it with 'kill' resulted in being
unable to restart X, so I rebooted again. I found X, Fvwm and vi work fine
with root. Aha! I thought. I'll just add another user and use that until I
get things fixed. However the new user had the same problems as my orginal
user id. 

What do I do now? 

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Re: Errors in compiling a source package

[Joey Hess]

joost witteveen wrote:
> (Oh, come to think of it, why do courageous people have bootdisks?)

Hi, there, I was courageous (though when I downgraded ldso, there was no 
warning message yet), and had no bootdisks. It didn't help that all other
linux machines here were unable to boot with my server down (nfs root), and
that my server was my internet gateway. I carted my computer to a friends
house to fix it. 

Now I'm uncouragrous, have statically linked binaries stashed away, boot
disks, and other internat-capable linux machines. Ldso downgrade sure was a
learning experience. :-)

Seriously, I wonder if there's not some way for ldso's postinst to notice
that it's being downgraded and abort the downgrade? Looking at the
programmers manual, I see that "old-prerm upgrade new-version" is called
right at the beginning of an "upgrade" (or downgrade, I hope!). Perhaps
ldso's prerm could detect the problem and refuse to downgrade?

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Re: MTA Suggestion

[Joey Hess]

Craig Sanders wrote:
> > | preline procmail
> > 
> > isn't all that difficult.
> 
> no it's not difficult. the PITA factor comes in because it has to be
> done for every account.  As i said, i use procmail as the local delivery
> agent - which means that i need a global setting for it, not a per- user
> setting.

Take a look at qmail 1.01-2 (actually, look at qmail-src, which creates that
package).

Using this version, you can edit the /etc/init.d/qmail file to something
like:

alias_empty="|/usr/local/bin/qmail-procmail"

I couldhave just put "|preline procmail" there, but my qmail-procmail
script does a few things to return codes that are useful. Here it is:

#!/bin/sh
#
# This script is used to get qmail to run procmail for every delivery.
# Script by: Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

/usr/bin/preline /usr/bin/procmail && exit 0

# check if procmail returned EX_TEMPFAIL (75)
[ $? = 75 ] && exit 111
   
# otherwise return a permanent error
exit 100

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Sendmail and email addresses with ip address

[R. Chris Ross]

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that I need to change in my sendmail.mc file?

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Old bios and large disk setup.

[R. Chris Ross]

I have an older Dell mother board that has a BIOS that will in no
way deal with large disks.  After reading thru the large disk FAQ and lilo
docs it looked like I would be able to make a small partition ~ 2 Megs,
leave the rest of the disk as one large ~4 Gig partition, put the kernel
and lilo files from /boot on the 2 Meg partition then mount the 4 Gig
partition as /.  I can't seam to get this to work.  The kernel starts to
load and gets to the point of looking for SCSI hardware (which there is
none).  After that the machine locks.  There is no data in
/etc/log/messages from that boot.  If I boot from floppy that was made
during install all is well.  Can someone help?


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Re: 1.3.1 Setup with ULTRA DMA disk

[Bruce Perens]

Turn off plug-and-play if you can. If not, copy the kernel from the rescue
disk to your hard disk, and re-run LILO. You might have to build a kernel
with plug-and-play enabled - I don't know why you have a different
kernel on the rescue disk and on your hard disk if you have not already
done that.

Debian runs fine with one disk on each IDE interface. The second disk
would be hdc, not hdb, in this case.

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less than useful dselect/dpkg error msg

[Bill Leach]

Receiving error messages such as the following:

  Linux# dpkg --configure fvwm2
   dpkg: error processing fvwm2 (--configure):
   package fvwm2 is not ready for configuration
   cannot configure (current status `installed')
  Errors were encountered while processing:
   fvwm2
  Linux#

are pretty much useless.  This sort of error message reminds
me of Red Hat's RPM!

What causes this sort of information free error message?
Does dpkg honor the 'hold' status in the status file when it
is placed there by dselect (that is when dpkg is run manually from the command 
line)?

best,
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libc5 to libc6: purge or install *-dev?

[Jameson Burt]

The key document for upgrading from stable "bo" to unstable "hamm" is 
libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt.  I have botched the upgrade from rex to bo, and 
the upgrade from bo to hamm.   I botched the upgrades because I installed 
programs from the unstable version over several months successfully, then one 
day installed a key program like "dpkg" without looking for or noticing any 
upgrade notes.  The web page entrance into the packages,
http://www.debian.org/packages.html
says
"could therefore break your system"
This message could be more helpful.  How about a link to 
libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt
Also, how about putting in the file /debian/hamm/.message a warning as one 
enters this unstable directory via ftp.  Again, such a warning ought to 
mention libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt.  Since this file is so crucial to moving 
from bo to hamm, please consider making a link to it with a more eye-catching 
name like README.UPGRADE-WARNING.  Another useful comment in 
libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt might be something like "You will probably not 
completely ruin your current Debian distribution by installing from the hamm 
distribution, unless you install ldso, bash, libc, or dpkg."


In the debian-users mail-list, one person followed libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt 
by trying to purge all *-dev packages, but zhe ran across so many dependencies 
that zhe stopped.  I tried the same with futility.  Is it really necessary to 
purge the *-dev packages?  Can't everyone just find the appropriate package to 
upgrade these *-dev packages, then install them as a way to rid the old *-dev 
packages?

Also, not all packages in development directories have *-dev endings.  Should 
your comment in section "3" of your document refer not just to *-dev packages 
but also to any package in a development directory?  For example, I suppose no 
major problems arise from the old
devel/libc5-dbg_5.4.33-6.deb
If other development packages are not so critical, you might state that.

Your libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt saves many people from ruinning their 
operating systems.  A few changes could save a few more people.  When a person 
ruins zher operating system by badly adding packages from hamm, zhe consumes 
weeks of time.  You might save tens of people a hundred wasted hours each.



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Re: 1.3.1 Setup with ULTRA DMA disk

[tko]

Alex Monaghan writes:
> 
> Help,
> 
> I attempted to install Debian 1.3.1 from the Linux Systems Labs =
> "Official" Debian CD onto my father's PC.
> 
> This installed OK from the boot floppy made from the CD.
> 
> When booting from the rescue disk it finds ide0 at irq14 and ide1 at irq =
> 15 and all works OK, when booting via LILO or via the install process's =
> boot disk it finds ide0 at irq 7 and the md driver fails to load and the =
> boot process stops.
> 
> Any suggestions ?

Yes, while the BIOS allows two IDE drives on different IDE busses, my
experience has found that most OS's don't like that arrangement. Try
re-arranging the hard drives like this:

Primary IDE bus:
first HD
second HD (or cdrom drive if only one HD)

Secondary IDE bus:
third HD  (or cdrom drive if only two HDs)
fourth HD (or cdrom drive)

Next, if the BIOS is a "plug 'n' pray" and the motherboard has the peripheral
controllers built-in, go into the BIOS. Look for the PCI/plug and pray menu
and go there. The submenu should allow you to lock IRQs by telling the BIOS
that they are "legacy" IRQs. Of course, save it and reboot.

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Re: using dpkg to "see" the contents of a package

[Alex Yukhimets]

> I am new to Debian, so this may be a somewhat stupid question... Is
> there a way to use dpkg to list the contents, etc. of a package that is
> not installed? I like to see what it is I am installing first, and when
> I used rpm I could query the contents first. Is there a dpkg equivalent?

dpkg --contents *.deb

Alex Y.

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Re: PPP and PAP

[Alex Yukhimets]

> > You can't put comments into the chatscript. Remove all extra lines and try
> > again. If it fails, look at the end of /var/log/messages for possible 
> > explanation.
> 
> ok, i've removed those too.  I now get as far as a ppp connection, but
> now plog reports, roughly (minicom doesn't seem to allow text paste)
> 
> CONNECT--got it
> Serial Connection established
> Connect ppp0<-> /dev/modem
> ICIP: timeout sending Config-requests
> Connection terminated
> exit
> 
> I have no idea what to change after reading the pppd manpage. . . 

Increase debug level and see again. 

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README.mirrors for ftp.debian.org, better remote_dir

[Jameson Burt]

In README.mirrors, Debian's primary site ftp.debian.org has the remote 
directory listed as /debian.  Using the standard "mirror" program, I have 
always gotten the response
"Cannot get remote directory details (/debian )"

For a year, I just went on to other mirror sites.
The above message made me presume I was being refused permissions,
perhaps during certain hours.
I now know that "mirror" does not follow the link from /debian to
/net/ac121/linux/distributions/debian

The site ftp.debian.org has four paths to the debian distribution
/debian
/pub/debian
/pub/linux/distributions/debian
/net/ac121/linux/distributions/debian
Both the paths /debian and /pub/debian fail under "mirror", 
though a typical ftp works.
However, the path /pub/linux/distributions/debian works under "mirror".
I suggest that not /debian but /pub/linux/distributions/debian be put in 
README.mirrors.

While I would prefer to reduce burden on the primary Debian site, 
ftp.debian.org, over the last year the three secondary sites I used 
sequentially eventually went defunct: tsx-11.mit.edu, uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu, 
and now debian.crosslink.net.  Each of them caused me great difficulty over 
the months just before they completely stopped handling Debian.  Currently, 
debian.crosslink.net has a mixture of old, new, missing packages.  Some 
required packages are missing.  I finally ceased using debian.crosslink.net 
and switched to ftp.debian.org when I noticed that the very important document
libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html.tar.gz
was a month out of date.  

I suggest that Debian make a statistical measure of listed mirror sites and 
enter notes in README.mirrors  about improper mirroring.

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Turn on Shadow

[Bao C. Ha]

Is it safe to turn shadow passwd after NIS has been running for a while?
What is the proper procedure for the NIS master and slave?

Thanks.
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using dpkg to "see" the contents of a package

[Tim Ferrell]

I am new to Debian, so this may be a somewhat stupid question... Is
there a way to use dpkg to list the contents, etc. of a package that is
not installed? I like to see what it is I am installing first, and when
I used rpm I could query the contents first. Is there a dpkg equivalent?

Thanks!
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Re: Has anyone bought the debian book and cds?

[Tim Ferrell]

On 15 Nov, butch let loose with:
> Hello,
> 
> well i was in J&R music worlds computer store and i saw the set- ,and they
> have a really good price on it. has anyone bought it and what are your
> opinions of the value for money?
> 

I got the book about two weeks ago - I am somewhat new to debain so it
was a good primer... A lot of it focuses on installation though, which
personally I did not need. I also wish that there had been coverage on
actually making packages with debmake, etc. All in all it is a good book
to have on the shelf if you like printed documentation.

A word of caution, though... I did not have much success with the
Custom CD. Dselect choked on certain packages - I don't know the cause
right off, but just be warned...

C Ya!
Tim

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xmcd_2.2-4.deb problems

[Jason Wright]

Howdy...

The current hamm xmcd package seems to not like running on my machine.
First, it complains about having insufficient privlidges:

overmind:/temple/sw/linux/debian ] /usr/X11R6/bin/xmcd xmcd Fatal Error:
Xmcd binary permissions error: It should be setuid root.  Please have
your system administrator correct this.

It's setgid cdrom, and /dev/scd0 is owned by group cdrom, so it should
have sufficient permissions to read the device:

overmind:/temple/sw/linux/debian ] ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/xmcd
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root cdrom  230572 Oct 13 08:12 /usr/X11R6/bin/xmcd

overmind:/temple/sw/linux/debian ] ls -l /dev/scd0
brw-rw   1 root cdrom 11,   0 Dec 19  1996 /dev/scd0

I'm also in group cdrom, which shouldn't matter since the binary is
setgid:

overmind:/temple/sw/linux/debian ] grep cdrom /etc/group
cdrom:*:24:peewee
overmind:/temple/sw/linux/debian ] ypcat group | grep cdrom
cdrom:*:24:peewee

Setting the binary +s allowed it to run, and start sucking all available
memory:

overmind:/var/adm ] ps -auxww | grep xmcd
peewee   28825  0.0  0.5   836   360  p0 S 19:17   0:00 grep xmcd 
root 28809 43.3 50.7 64088 32116  p1 D 19:16   0:24 /usr/X11R6/bin/xmcd

If it matters, it was attempting to do a CDDB lookup at the time.

PeeWee

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Re: mail domain

[Paul Miller]

On Sat, 15 Nov 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote:

> That looks better, although I'm still confused by
> "3dillusion.3dillusion.com" ... but it's your domain :)
> 
> At least DNS is doing what you think it should now.

I wanted the hostname to be 3dillusion when users logged on..
3dillusion.3dillusion.com is kinda confusing..

Finally it looks like everything is working..  Thank you so much for
helping.

Paul


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Re: mail domain

[Nathan E Norman]

On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

: On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote:
: 
: > It's a problem at your server, as I said.  The solution is to make sure
: > that a line like
: > 
: > IN  NS  ns.3dillusion.com
: > actually reads
: > IN  NS  ns.3dillusion.com.
: > as Carey pointed out, or you could do
: > IN  NS  ns
: > but this is not recommended.
: > 
: > Yes, there's a big difference!  BIND appends the domain name to any name
: > it finds that does not end with a "."  Reread the docs if you don't
: > understand this.
: 
: ... it already is 'ns.3dillusion.com.' in both the SOA and NS records.
: Maybe you checked before I added the dots to the SOA records..  can you
: check it again?

brahe:/var/log/news $ nslookup
Default Server:  ns1.midco.net
Address:  208.146.80.1

> set q=soa
> 3dillusion.com
Server:  ns1.midco.net
Address:  208.146.80.1

3dillusion.com
origin = ns.3dillusion.com
mail addr = hostmaster.3dillusion.com
serial = 1997111502
refresh = 3600 (1 hour)
retry   = 1500 (25 mins)
expire  = 604800 (7 days)
minimum ttl = 3600 (1 hour)
3dillusion.com  nameserver = ns.3dillusion.com
ns.3dillusion.com   internet address = 198.109.162.43
> server ns.3dillusion.com
Default Server:  ns.3dillusion.com
Address:  198.109.162.43

> ls -t any 3dillusion.com
[ns.3dillusion.com]
 3dillusion.com.SOA   ns.3dillusion.com
hostmaster.3dillusion.com. (1997111502 3600 1500 604800 3600)
 3dillusion.com.NSns.3dillusion.com 
 3dillusion.com.MX100  mail.3dillusion.com
 3dillusion.com.HINFO PC-586  Linux
 3dillusion.com.A 198.109.162.43
 nameserver CNAME ns.3dillusion.com
 3dillusion A 198.109.162.43
 mail   A 198.109.162.43
 wwwCNAME 3dillusion.3dillusion.com
 silhouette A 209.94.111.26
 paul   CNAME 3dillusion.3dillusion.com
 ns A 198.109.162.43
 ftpCNAME 3dillusion.3dillusion.com
 3dillusion.com.SOA   ns.3dillusion.com
hostmaster.3dillusion.com. (1997111502 3600 1500 604800 3600)
>

That looks better, although I'm still confused by
"3dillusion.3dillusion.com" ... but it's your domain :)

At least DNS is doing what you think it should now.

: 
: -Paul
: 
: 

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Re: netscape

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Fri, Nov 14, 1997 at 03:00:44PM -0500, Dale Martin wrote:
> Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >   ./lib/X11/app-defaults -> ../../../X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults
> > 
> > The XErrorDB & XKeysymDB files also used to be symlinked to
> > /usr/X11r6/lib/X11 but aren't any more (although *I* don't remeber
> > changing them)
> 
> I symlinked everything over, and it's working now!  Thanks.  Mayve this
> will get rid of all of the unsupported locale messages I've had, too!

I just made that one symlink and now it works. I had all the others
already. Odd; one might even say "bloody Netscape."


thanks,


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Help with sgml: cannot find debiandoc

[Philippe Troin]

I wanted to print the policy manual, and wanted to use sgml2latex, 
but it tells:

% sgml2latex  policy.sgml 
Processing file policy.sgml
/usr/bin/nsgmls:0:1:27:W: cannot generate system identifier for 
document type "DEBIANDOC"
/usr/bin/nsgmls:0:1:27:E: reference to entity "DEBIANDOC" for 
which no system identifier could be generated
/usr/bin/nsgmls:0:1:0: entity was defined here
/usr/bin/nsgmls:0:1:27:E: DTD did not contain element 
declaration for document type name
/usr/bin/nsgmls:0:2:2:E: "ENTITY" declaration not allowed in 
prolog
/usr/bin/nsgmls:0:3:0:E: cannot continue because of previous 
errors

However I've got the following packages installed:
ii  debiandoc-sgml  1.0.11 Documentation formatting for 
Debian manuals
un  linuxdoc-sgml(no description available)
pn  perlsgml (no description available)
pn  psgml(no description available)
ii  sgml-base   0.4utilities to maintain the SGML 
catalog file
ii  sgml-data   0.03   Data files for SGML programs
ii  sgml-tools  0.99.7-3   SGML tools
un  sgmls(no description available)
ii  sgmlspm 1.03ii-3   Perl modules for processing SGML 
parser outp

And /etc/sgml.catalog says:
-- START SGML CATALOG ENTRY FOR PACKAGE debiandoc-sgml --
DOCTYPE debiandoc   dtd/debiandoc.dtd
ENTITY %general-chars   entities/general

-- END SGML CATALOG ENTRY FOR PACKAGE debiandoc-sgml --

I'm lost !

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Has anyone bought the debian book and cds?

[butch]

Hello,

well i was in J&R music worlds computer store and i saw the set- ,and they
have a really good price on it. has anyone bought it and what are your
opinions of the value for money?

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Re: News server software

[Jason Costomiris]

On Sat, Nov 15, 1997 at 12:56:27PM -0800, George Bonser wrote:
: 
: Ah! Well, with a few thousand customers ... hmmm, separate your news into
: feeder and reader machines. Run INN on the feeder(s) which handle your remote
: newsfeeds and leafnode feeds to the reader machines. cnews + nntpd + msgidd is
: still PLENTY fast enough for the reader machines. As a matter of fact, you 
will
: likely experiance less trouble that way. The reader machines would have only
: one feed ... to the main feeder machine. 

If you're going to split up feeding and reading over multiple boxes, INN
isn't really the way to go for the feeder.  INN will do just fine && dandy
for the reader box.  I've always found INN much more straightforward to
setup than cnews with nntpd and msgidd grafted on top.

For the feed machine, have a look at Cyclone's NewsRouter product
(http://www.highwind.com/), or Diablo (no, not the game)
which is available from http://www.backplane.com/diablo/.

A guy (who happens to supply me a couple of T1's), runs his news feeder
box on an UltraSparc 1/170E configured like:

512MB of RAM
about 18G of disk
Solaris 2.5.1 w/patches..

It sits on a 100 Base-T switched ethernet connected to the 'net via:

T-3 to MAE East over private fiber
T-3 peering w/ PANIX in NYC
34 MB SMDS with Sprint @ the Pennsauken, NJ NAP
(45MB ?) ATM to MAE West
34 MB SMDS peering w/a UUNet connected ISP

My newsfeed is  Oh, let's say, "as current as it gets"... :)  He's
got no trouble with Cyclone, and it's blindingly fast.

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Re: PPP and PAP

[Rick Hawkins]

trying again; i'mdialed in on a horrible university network . . .

george bonsur wrote,

> On 15-Nov-97 Rick Hawkins wrote:

> > I can't quite get this combination to work.

> > changing /etc/ppp/pap so that the last line is now

> > hawk * mypassword

> Don't you mean pap-secrets?

err, yes :)


> > This much failed to login as it attempted to respond to the login:
> > prompt (which this isp doesn't allow).

> > I commented out the "expect ogin:" and "expect word:" ion
> > ppp.chatscript, which instead gives me an alarm and a failure to
> > connect.

> Change it to expect CONNECT as the last entry.

ok the last line is now "CONNECT" and

and alex wrote,
> > I assume I'm missing something obvious.

> You can't put comments into the chatscript. Remove all extra lines and try
> again. If it fails, look at the end of /var/log/messages for possible 
> explanation.

ok, i've removed those too.  I now get as far as a ppp connection, but
now plog reports, roughly (minicom doesn't seem to allow text paste)

CONNECT--got it
Serial Connection established
Connect ppp0<-> /dev/modem
ICIP: timeout sending Config-requests
Connection terminated
exit

I have no idea what to change after reading the pppd manpage. . . 

Help!!

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more PPP and PAP

[Rick Hawkins]

> > I can't quite get this combination to work.

> > changing /etc/ppp/pap so that the last line is now

> > hawk * mypassword

> Don't you mean pap-secrets?

err, yes :)

> > I commented out the "expect ogin:" and "expect word:" ion
> > ppp.chatscript, which instead gives me an alarm and a failure to
> > connect.

> Change it to expect CONNECT as the last entry.

ok, the last line is now "CONNECT"   and

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RE: Mounting Solaris 2.5.1 partitions..

[Kevin Conover]

while this:

mount -t ufs /dev/sda1 /disk1  

looks correct, did you compile ufs file system support in to your kernel?
You mention no success, what error message do you get?

kc

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> 
> Just tried taking an external SCSI disk from one of our SparcStations
> running Solaris 2.5.1 and connecting it up to my x86 Linux box.  The
> SCSI chain recognizes that a drive is there, but, I can't seem to mount
> any of the partitions on the drive.  It was suggested to me to use the
> ufs filesystem for doing this.  I tried the following:
> mount -t ufs /dev/sda1 /disk1
> But with no success.
> 
> Any ideas or reasons why?
> 
> Richard..
> 
> -
> Richard Dansereau
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Home page:  http://pobox.com/~rdanse
> Electrical and Computer Engineering - University of Manitoba - Canada
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Re: Can't login anymore

[Oliver Elphick]

Chuma Agbodike wrote:
  >Thanks Oliver. You nailed it.

Good.

  >I had forced install of libreadlineg2, libc6 and a bunch of other stuff post
  >gresql 6.2.1 was complaining about that it needed. Boy! am I sorry I did
  > that.
  >What a mess. My dotmatrix
  >printer now prints a line a minute. Still can't figure that one out. Fixed s
  >tartx.
  >Anyway you mentioned changing /bin/bash to some other shell. I tried csh and
  > it made it possible to login. But when I tried to run some scripts I go
  >t
  >segmentation fault.
  >So I reinstalled libreadline2 from cdrom. Booted and I get my usuual login p
  >rompt.
  >
  >Now maybe you can help. How do I get libreadling2 to install. With it I can 
  >run the
  >progres psql. Without it I get a buzzing sound until I control-C.
  >
  >I think I still have libc6 in there. But maybe that's  why am having trouble
  > with printing.

I think you need to read the Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO posting which
appears every week or so on this list, thanks to Scott Ellis.  You need to 
complete the process of installing libc6.  This involves upgrading several
libc5-compatible libraries so that they can co-exist with libc6. 

  >Also can you tell me what version of progres you run .

6.2.1, compiled with libc6 headers.  I'm hoping to upload a Debian package of 
it tomorrow; it's being tested now.

  >
  >Incidently I sent you a message a few days before I got into this jam.
  >To olly@lfix.co.uk and pointed out to you that the URL in your signature is 
  >broken.
 
Fixed, thanks.  (I never got the mail, but I had a whole lot of trouble with
mail a couple of days back and lost a whole chunk down a black hole.)

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