netscape libraries error

1997-11-19 Thread Rick Hawkins

parts of my new machine have arrived at the office, so now it's fast
enough to be more than an xterminal (this isn't the same machine that's
having the troubles with PAP/PPP).

So I installed netscape.  But I get the message,
yryttyp1:hawknetscape 
netscape: program is version 3.01, but resources are version 3.0.

This means that there is an inappropriate `Netscape' file installed
in the app-defaults directory.  Check these environment variables
and the directories to which they point:

$XAPPLRESDIR
$XFILESEARCHPATH
$XUSERFILESEARCHPATH

Also check for this file in your home directory, or in the
directory called `app-defaults' somewhere under /usr/lib/.
eyryttyp1:hawk

I've never had version 3.0; this is right after an install.  I
encounterd this a couple of months ago; some days it worked, other days
it gave this message.  But since it was running on a 486 even when it
worked, there was no point in continuing . . .

rick


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compile problems on new k6

1997-11-19 Thread Rick Hawkins

I cheerfully set out to compile a new kernel on my new k6.  fast. wow.
but i'm getting odd messages during make zImage:

gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 
-malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586  -c -o inode.o 
inode.c
gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6
make[3]: *** [inode.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/fs/minix'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/fs/minix'
make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/fs'
make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
cpp: output pipe has been closed


I simply moved the drives from the 486 to this machine, which runs them
at pio(?)3.

If I tell it to make zImage again, it gets farther each time--until it
tells me that the x86 has no ret function.

hmm, as i write this, the next one was a sig11.  maybe i'm not coooled
enough to run this 166 at 200 (el-cheapo fan that came with it).


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Re: Pentium error

1997-11-19 Thread Adam Shand

 Umm -- isn't ^] your telnet client's responsibility?

Err, I can't answer that decisivly but lets put it this way, I'm using
Debian's standard telnet client which works with CTRL-] with everything
else

 Of course, since it's a mostly graphical OS (not many console
 mode programs) telnet is pretty much a waste of time anyway.
 OS/2 Warp has a telnetd as well -- same value.

True... but it would be oh so nice if there was some easy way to remotely
maintain an NT box without having to have a Windows box to run PC Anywhere
from (or similar).  GUI's aren't that great a solution over low bandwidth
links.

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remove

1997-11-19 Thread Tony D. Koehn




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Re: PAP PPP, take 3

1997-11-19 Thread Rick Hawkins


 From the log you included in your message I see that another peer
 does not respond to anything except echo-requests. I don't know what
 stage you are on though, could you please send the complete log.
 (I don't see, for example, how pap authorization came through)

here's /etc/ppp.chatscript.
ABORTBUSY
ABORTNO CARRIER
ABORTVOICE
ABORTNO DIALTONE
   ATDT113,86632280
CONNECT

and /etc/ppp.options_out

defaultroute /dev/modem 38400 persist

and /etc/ppp/pap_secrets

# This is a pap-secrets file to be used with the AUTO_PPP function of
mgetty
# mgetty-0.99 is preconfigured to startup pppd with the login option
which
# will cause pppd to consult /etc/passwd after a user has passed this
file
# Dont be disturbed therfore by the fact that this file defines logins
with
# any password for users. /etc/passwd will catch passwd mismatches.
#
# This file should block ALL users that should not be able to do
AUTO_PPP!
# AUTO_PPP bypasses the usual login program so its necessary to list all
# system userids with regular passwords here!
#
# ATTENTION: The definitions here can allow users to login without a
# password if you dont use the login option of pppd!
# The /etc/ppp/options file installed has the login option enabled

# INBOUND connections

# Every regular user can use PPP and has to use passwords from
/etc/passwd
*   nest.econ   

# UserIDs that cannot use PPP at all. Check your /etc/passwd and add any
# other accounts that should not be able to use pppd!
guest   nest.econ   * -
master  nest.econ   * -
rootnest.econ   * -
support nest.econ   * -
stats   nest.econ   * -

# OUTBOUND connections

# Here you should add your userid password to connect to your providers
via
# pap. The * means that the password is to be used for ANY host you
connect
# to. Thus you do not have to worry about the foreign machine name. Just
# replace password with your password.
# If you have different providers with different passwords then you
better
# remove the following line.

hawk*password


i'm sorry about any formatting problems; i'm having to do this throught
windows' telnet on a bad connection to get textinsert.  most featurs and
escape sequnces are missing, and there's a minute-long lags attimes. . .

are these all of the files?  I haven't found an y file with a PASSIVE as
john suggested.

rick


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Re: PAP PPP, take 3

1997-11-19 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Rick,

we should have started with posting your files :)

 defaultroute /dev/modem 38400 persist

You should add on the same line  user hawk
for pppd being able to understand which line in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
to use.

 and /etc/ppp/pap_secrets

I hope you meant pap-secrets, not pap_secrets.

 i'm sorry about any formatting problems; i'm having to do this throught
 windows' telnet on a bad connection to get textinsert.  most featurs and
 escape sequnces are missing, and there's a minute-long lags attimes. . .
 
 are these all of the files?  I haven't found an y file with a PASSIVE as
 john suggested.

You should also DEFINITELY have /etc/ppp/options file!
If you do have it, then adding user hawk will do the trick.

Alex Y.

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Re: upgrade woes

1997-11-19 Thread Lindsay Allen

The info is in .../debian/1.3-Upgrading from your mirror.  I will send it
to you via email.


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On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Mauro Condarelli wrote:

 Hi!
 I'm trying to upgrade from 1.1 to 1.3
 I'm *sure* i saw a document specifying some manual operations
 needed before dselect, but i seem to be unable to find it any
 more.
 Can someone send me a pointer???
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Re: PAP PPP, take 3

1997-11-19 Thread Rick Hawkins



 we should have started with posting your files :)

  defaultroute /dev/modem 38400 persist
 

 for pppd being able to understand which line in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
 to use.


AH-HAH!yes, this did it.  thank you, thankyou, thank you.  I'm now
connected through the isp.

Should this be part of the installation script, then?  I also noticed
that /etc/ppp.chatscript and ppp.options_out are permission 600.
shouldn't they be 640, with permission to some group, such as dialout? 

  and /etc/ppp/pap_secrets

 I hope you meant pap-secrets, not pap_secrets.

yep.  i had to pop it over to the dos partition in an 8.3, reboot, etc.
..

  john suggested.

 You should also DEFINITELY have /etc/ppp/options file!
 If you do have it, then adding user hawk will do the trick.

yep, i do have one, though i've never touched it.  I'd assumed that
/etc/options_out had replaced it.

thanks again

rick


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Re: How to use dpkg -b ??

1997-11-19 Thread Debian List
Hi!!

Thanks again...

Ok I tried the dpkg-source -x and here's the error I got:
dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./mgetty_1.1.8.orig.tar.gz' contains object
(mgetty-1.1.8/README.1st) not in expected directory (mgetty-1.1.8.orig)

Help! ;)

Ricardo

On 18 Nov 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote:

 Debian List [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  But given the 3 files (diff, dsc, tar), how do I use dpkg-buildpackage? I
  tried running it but it says it can't find debian/changelog and can't
  determine the source package...
 
 Oh, I'm sorry.  Use `dpkg-source -x PACKAGE.dsc' to extract the source
 code, then use `dpkg-buildpackage' from the source directory.
 
  Also, what would be the procedure to customize/patch a package? Would I
  untar the original source, make mods to the source, tar it up again, and
  then build the package? I'm fuzzy as to what the procedure would be in
  order to customize a package.
 
 dpkg-buildpackage will automagically generate a diff from the original
 package source.
 
  If I make changes to the original source, wouldn't that invalidate the
  diff file?
 
 I don't understand the question.
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Re: using dpkg to see the contents of a package

1997-11-19 Thread Lindsay Allen

On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Gertjan Klein wrote:

 Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I heavily use mc to enter a deb package. Then I can even examine the
   contents of the files inside without the need of dpkg --extract. It is
   pretty neat.
 
   How do you do this?  My mc (3.5.17, from Debian 1.3.1) doesn't seem to
 support .deb packages by default, and neither the .ar files that they
 really are (just .tar files).

IIRC you add this snippet to /etc/mc/mc.ext

regex/\.deb$
Open=%cd deb:%d/%p/
View=%view{ascii} dpkg-deb -c %f
 
Better yet is to get an unofficial later version.  Try
ietpd1.sowi.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian/unofficial/binaries
for mc_4.1.11-0.1_i386.deb.  (I do not know yet whether it is libc5 or
libc6.)

Lindsay

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Re: compile problems on new k6

1997-11-19 Thread Olivier THARAN
On Tue, Nov 18, 1997 at 06:42:21PM +0930, Rick Hawkins wrote:
 If I tell it to make zImage again, it gets farther each time--until it
 tells me that the x86 has no ret function.
 
 hmm, as i write this, the next one was a sig11.  maybe i'm not coooled
 enough to run this 166 at 200 (el-cheapo fan that came with it).

It clearly means that, if you overclocked your K6, the hardware is so
stressed during a kernel compilation that it does not stand it -- no
kidding. Go to http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ to have a really good
explanation of what your problem could be.

olive
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Re: How to use dpkg -b ??

1997-11-19 Thread Ben Pfaff
Debian List [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Ok I tried the dpkg-source -x and here's the error I got:
 dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./mgetty_1.1.8.orig.tar.gz' contains object
 (mgetty-1.1.8/README.1st) not in expected directory (mgetty-1.1.8.orig)

Reading the dpkg packaging manual:

*3.4 Unpacking a Debian source package without dpkg-source*

dpkg-source -x is the recommended way to unpack a Debian source
package. However, if it is not available it is possible to unpack a
Debian source archive as follows:

   1.  Untar the tarfile, which will create a .orig directory.
   2.  Rename the .orig directory to package-version.
   3.  Create the subdirectory debian at the top of the source tree.
   4.  Apply the diff using patch -p0.
   5.  Untar the tarfile again if you want a copy of the original
   source code alongside the Debianised version.

It is probably necessary to do this by hand, as it looks like
dpkg-source breaks on this particular package.  This might be a bug in
mgetty or in dpkg-source.
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Re: mp3 to wav

1997-11-19 Thread Carey Evans
Pere Camps [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Anyone know of something that does mp3 to wav conversion?

For a free solution, something like:

% mpg123 -s foo.mp3 | sox -t .raw -u -w -c 2 -r 44100 - foo.wav

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DEBIAN QUESTION RE: INSTALLATION SONY CD-ROM

1997-11-19 Thread darren morin
As it is getting very late for me here, I have a question,  Since I'm a
newbie, (no stones, please) I have followed the instructions using the DOS
rawrite-2 tool, constructed all seven floppy images needed.  My question
involves installing the SONY CDU31A.

I have the Debian Linux edition CDRom from the boot! magazine (Nov. '97)
and I constructed my disks using the DOS rawrite-2 tool, and everything is
fine there.  However, since I'm a newbie, my question is regarding in the
CD Rom installation.  I have a SONY CDU31-A, and the prompt comes up during
installation asking me for a command line argument.  What?!?!  What is
it? (I have the port addresses in my Sound Blaster 16 manual, if that's
what its talking about). What do I do with it?  I type in the numbers for
IRQ and whatever, and it starts looking for itand never stops, forcing
me to CTRLALTDEL and having to start all over again.  PLEASE HELP!!!
I've tried everything I know, just as long as I don't get another RTFM
again (I printed out the Debian Linux Installation and getting started
manual by Boris Beletsky, by the way). Im following along, but I've tried 8
times just to get this thing going and as far as I have gotten is up to
install CDRom inteface from the menu.

P.S.  Just in case something else goes wrong, I'm letting you know I bought
Partition Magic so I could split my WIN 95 and Linux up (if I ever get it
going...).
Sincerely, [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-(
   

  


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Re: DEBIAN QUESTION RE: INSTALLATION SONY CD-ROM

1997-11-19 Thread Lindsay Allen

Darren,

I saved this message some time back. I don't have one of these myself, but
the argument you need seems to be

0x340 cdu31a_irq=5


From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 19 13:50:03 1997
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 03:32:59 +0100 (MET)
From: Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: cdu31a
Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:35:19 +0800
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On 14 Nov 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 A friend is trying to convert to Debian from Slakware.  He's using
 buzz-fixed off an Info Magic cdrom, and can't get the installation
 boot disk to recognize his cdu31a.
 
 At the lilo prompt, he's type
   linux cdu31a=0x230,0
 
 This lilo parameter worked fine under slakware.
 
 Any suggestions?

This gave me the hardest time of installation too and i lost two days
being without a reasonably working system trying to find this out and
reinstalling numerous times until Bruce gave me the right advice:

Try:

modprobe cdu31a cdu31a_port=0x340 cdu31a_irq=5

If you use modconf (the module configuration menu) use the arguments

cdu31a_port=0x340 cdu31a_irq=5

Adapt as needed.

It's all stated in the kernel documentation included with the sources 
which are not present upon the stage of the base system installation. And
the information *present* during installation time is somewhat misleading
because the old scheme of passing parameters to LILO doesn't work with the
new 2.0.xx kernels. This should be revised in the setup configuration. Or
is it already for Debian-1.2 release?
 P. *8^)
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On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, darren morin wrote:

 As it is getting very late for me here, I have a question,  Since I'm a
 newbie, (no stones, please) I have followed the instructions using the DOS
 rawrite-2 tool, constructed all seven floppy images needed.  My question
 involves installing the SONY CDU31A.
 
 I have the Debian Linux edition CDRom from the boot! magazine (Nov. '97)
 and I constructed my disks using the DOS rawrite-2 tool, and everything is
 fine there.  However, since I'm a newbie, my question is regarding in the
 CD Rom installation.  I have a SONY CDU31-A, and the prompt comes up during
 installation asking me for a command line argument.  What?!?!  What is
 it? (I have the port addresses in my Sound Blaster 16 manual, if that's
 what its talking about). What do I do with it?  I type in the numbers for
 IRQ and whatever, and it starts looking for itand never stops, forcing
 me to CTRLALTDEL and having to start all over again.  PLEASE HELP!!!
 I've tried everything I know, just as long as I don't get another RTFM
 again (I printed out the Debian Linux Installation and getting started
 manual by Boris Beletsky, by the way). Im following along, but I've tried 8
 times just to get this thing going and as far as I have gotten is up to
 install CDRom inteface from the menu.
 
 P.S.  Just in case something else goes wrong, I'm letting you know I bought
 Partition Magic so I could split my WIN 95 and Linux up (if I ever get it
 going...).
 Sincerely, [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-(

 
   
 
 
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Re: user questions .. Thanks

1997-11-19 Thread tko
John Scroggins writes:
 
 the discussion on help for novice users of Debian is of great importance
 to me, as I am a
 that person .

John, everyone has to start somewhere 8-)

 i have monitored this user list and have to say there IS a lot of
 assistance out there i have well over 900 pieces of mail in my mail
 folder. This is not a list which is used time to time for high level

Well, do like I've done... Create a subdirectory in your home directory, then
copy all revelent mail into catagories as you read the questions and then the
authoritive answer (like all PPP questions into a PPP folder like ppp.txt).
Then save the folder in your new directory and gzip them to save on space.
When you have a problem in an area, simply cd to the directory and use git
to research the folders. Because you pre-sorted the messages, you'll find
searching them to be quick. Try saving info that you might not be currently
interested in. Further down the road, you may find (like I have) that the info
is very handy.

[snip]
 to my local DynamIP site..(links my static IP address to my dynamic isp
 connection) I needed a script to help me do that ..no one responded to
 the question.. i was not offended .. i just kept looking .. i found it
 not on the list,but elsewhere ... yes there may be frustrated new users
 who are

I've seen messages about that particular subject. You probably will find them
in the debian-user-digest archive.

Lately, I've started a folder for web sites pertaining to Debian/Linux. It'll
be interesting to see if those sites are still around in 6 months.. 8-)

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Re: local e-mail message delivery from isp

1997-11-19 Thread tko
David Stern writes:
 
[snip]
 My question is: What is a good method to go about checking for and
 delivering messages?  Is there some slick app (gui or otherwise) that
 automates this procedure, or should I hack my chatscript to run
 something (what are my options?) at connect time and schedule cron to
 connect every so often (or possibly just check every so often when I'm
 connected, I haven't decided how often I want to check yet), or is there
 an even better way to handle this ritual?  My isp provides pop3, imap2,
 imap4, if that helps. 
 
 I've read many related docs including howto's, books, works from the
 Debian Documentation Project, but have not made much progress. If there
 is a good document I should read, please tell.

David, sounds like you need to look into UUCP. I've used UUCP for 9 years now
for mail delivery. UUCP lends itself to easy automation. CRON starts up the
UUCICO daemon at the appointed times and lo and behold, automatic magic!
Ask your ISP if they can provide a UUCP account. (under WINDOZE, the
equivalent programs are bundled under the name of UUPC - note the subtle
difference)

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Re: upgrade woes

1997-11-19 Thread tko
Mauro Condarelli writes:
 
 Hi!
 I'm trying to upgrade from 1.1 to 1.3
 I'm *sure* i saw a document specifying some manual operations
 needed before dselect, but i seem to be unable to find it any
 more.
 Can someone send me a pointer???
 PLZ copy directly me, since i just subscribed to the list and
 i surely o not want the reply to be lost.

When I upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3, I had to hand install the new dpkg package
before the other packages would smoothly install. Had to do with the older
dpkg not recognizing the epoch field... 8-)

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Re: Tear-Drop (ip_fragment bug) anyone apply the patch?

1997-11-19 Thread Jieyao

Regarding patching the kernel source 

I tried to patch the debian kernel source 2.0.30-9 using 2.0.31 and 2.0.32
from the usual kernel distribution sites but there are always error and I
can't complie correctly.

Anyone has any idea how I can do it correctly?

Normally I download the debian kernel source, configure it then use
make-kpkg to make a image package to be installed by dpkg. How do I do it
with patches?

Regards.


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Re: Tracing Spoof IP's

1997-11-19 Thread Rik Johns
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Is there a way to detect / trace where the spoof ip addresses are 
coming
from? Or is it an impoosible task?
Best way I have found, is to use tcpdump, install, then cd /usr/sbin
and ./tcpdump. Not full-proof, But I can get the real addy of a
Spoofed hit, 90% of the timeRegards...Rik...aka..Debian1
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Re: Tear-Drop (ip_fragment bug) anyone apply the patch?

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There has been a severe bug discovered in all implementations of Linux 
kernels
up to 2.0.31 and 2.1.62 (development) which can be used to remotely 
crash or
reboot your Linux system.
http://www.linux.efnet.ca/ip_fragment.shtml.   also info at: 
www.linux.org

I'm about to apply the patch.  Has anyone had experiences w/ it 
espcially with 
respect to debian/
Chris, the 2.1.63 .64 and .65 are patched for this...regards...Rik
Thanks,
Chris
Christopher Wong, MBA
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Sv: debian-user-digest Digest V97 #1022

1997-11-19 Thread Rasmus Glud

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Re: compile problems on new k6

1997-11-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Nov 19, 1997 at 05:48:07AM +0100, Olivier THARAN wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 18, 1997 at 06:42:21PM +0930, Rick Hawkins wrote:
  If I tell it to make zImage again, it gets farther each time--until it
  tells me that the x86 has no ret function.
  
  hmm, as i write this, the next one was a sig11.  maybe i'm not coooled
  enough to run this 166 at 200 (el-cheapo fan that came with it).
 
 It clearly means that, if you overclocked your K6, the hardware is so
 stressed during a kernel compilation that it does not stand it -- no
 kidding. Go to http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ to have a really good
 explanation of what your problem could be.

How old is the K6, and how much RAM do you have Rick?
Some K6s made before a certain week this year had some trouble
with 32mb of RAM that could cause problems like this. I have 64mb
and mine seems fine; I think the magic date was some time in September.
I have my 166 overclocked to 180.

Also regarding the ret thing --- I think that's because something
went wrong earlier just as it died, and when you remake it doesn't
think it needs to recompile that module because it is partially done.
Hence you have to make clean and start over in that case.

Hamish
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Can I use Samba with dial-up?

1997-11-19 Thread Oliver Elphick
I have to connect to a client through their Win/NT network to get to their
Unix machine.  They want me to use Dial-Up Adapter from Win95, but this means 
that I have to drop all other useful work while I boot up that abomination.
I can't make it work anyway, and as usual with MS stuff I can't find out
what is going on.

Can I use Samba to dial out on a modem and connect to their network?  I can
see how to use Samba across a network, but not how to use it with a direct
dial-up connection. 

Since I actually want to talk to a Unix machine, can I do without Samba 
altogether?

Does MS Dial-up Adapter use ppp?
If so, what kind of negotiation does it do? (I'm sure the customer won't
know.)
Is it possible to telnet through such a connection to the network beyond?


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Re: Tear-Drop (ip_fragment bug) anyone apply the patch?

1997-11-19 Thread Philippe Troin

On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:38:38 +0800 Jieyao ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

 Regarding patching the kernel source 
 
 I tried to patch the debian kernel source 2.0.30-9 using 2.0.31 and 2.0.32
 from the usual kernel distribution sites but there are always error and I
 can't complie correctly.

You should use the pristine linux-2.0.30.tgz file, not the debian 
kernel tree provided by the kernel-source package. It's already 
patched.

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unstable. How?

1997-11-19 Thread Brian Skreeg

hi folks,

I just totally give up with this. Running debian 1.3.1 from CD but now I feel
I need to delve into unstable again (always happens). Thing is, unstable has
moved dir`s in the distribution and I`ll be damned if I can get the right
entries into dpkg-ftp to download from it. What paths do I put in? No matter
what do , either it can`t get the package file (once updated) or can`t find
the files I want to d`load.

Help!!? 


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Just a Question..

1997-11-19 Thread msaavedr
Salut les amis , je suis un Chilien etudiant et amis des ordinateurs et 
IRC (internet Relay Chat) je voudrais seulement savoir si vous connaisais
a Weck ;).. soy chileno y quiero saber si conocen al Weck de IRC

Soy conocido como TheRazor en IRC y me dedico a visitar sites y ftp's
etc etc... bueno solo queria saber si podria participar en zero.org
desde Chile colaborando en lo que quieran aqui tienen un amigo.
Solo queria saber si Uds. pueden facilitarme el acceso a su red linux
prestandome una cuenta , necesito saber mas sobre linux estoy recien
comenzando a estudiarlo pero en UNIX no hay problemas..
Bueno esperando una pronta respuesta se despide de Uds. Mauricio
Saludos a Canada bro! jejejejeje
Des amities!!! 


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Re: using dpkg to see the contents of a package

1997-11-19 Thread Gertjan Klein

Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  IIRC you add this snippet to /etc/mc/mc.ext

  regex/\.deb$
  Open=%cd deb:%d/%p/
  View=%view{ascii} dpkg-deb -c %f

  Yes, that works!  Great!  It is really nice to be able to browse
inside the packages on the CD-ROM, especially the /usr/doc parts of
them.

  Better yet is to get an unofficial later version.

  Why?  My current version works for me - are the later versions so much
better?

  Gertjan.

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Re: compile problems on new k6

1997-11-19 Thread ychim
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 How old is the K6, and how much RAM do you have Rick?
 Some K6s made before a certain week this year had some trouble
 with 32mb of RAM that could cause problems like this. I have 64mb
 and mine seems fine; I think the magic date was some time in September.
 I have my 166 overclocked to 180.

All K6 built before week 30 have this problem.

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Re: Proposal on PPP

1997-11-19 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, A. M. Varon wrote:

 Hi,
 
 [Hope some developers are listening.]
 
 Could it be possible that all default windows manager in debian have an
 Icon pointing to xisp (a graphical dialer, used to interface pppd/chat.)?
 It's very easy to setup even for a newbie.
 
 I think almos 30% of the traffic in the deban-user mailing lists concerns
 about PPP.
 
 Redhat has an implementation in it's xconfigurator( sort of like a control
 panel.), and the dialer of redhat is easy to use.
 
 Could it be done also to debian?

About a year an a half ago, Bruce requested that someone
write an ash script that used dialog to help guide a user
through setting up a ppp connection.  The idea was to have
something that could potentially fit on the boot floppy,
giving people the ability to obtain only one floppy, and
download the rest of the OS over the ppp link.  It was good
idea, but I was the only one who bit.

Actually, at first there were for or five people interested
in working on it, but by the time I transfered out here, I
was the only one left.  This was the first time I ever
attempted to write an application for other people to use,
so it was pretty rough.  The package is dunc.  It's since
been rewritten and works a lot better than the original,
though it still suffers from my inexperience, and the fact
that its written in ash (IMO).  Since its never been useful
enough for anyone to say Hey, look what we have on our boot
floppy (it never even made to a boot floppy, in fact), I
decided that it really wasn't important enough to pursue
actively.  I do plan on rewriting it in perl, but it will
not use dialog, since the install program no longer uses it.
I don't know what the install program will use, so I'm not
sure that dunc should be bound to its original constraints
anymore.

I'm also aware of a number of pretty good X based PPP setup
tools, and would be happy to hear that debian had adopted
one as its default X based PPP configuration tool, but we do
still need a terminal based tool, in my view.  I'm a bit
behind in the PPP world at the moment, and was never an
expert in any case, so I'm still perfectly willing to
abandon dunc in favor of a better tool, or turn it over to a
different maintainer.  There doesn't seem to be too many
interested parties though.

Anyway, please give dunc a try, and let me know about any
oddities.

Thanks

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Re: Help needed intalling debian

1997-11-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, David Welch wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am brand new to linux and debian.  I have been trying to intall debian
 on my Toshiba T1910 laptop (intel 486sx33, 4mb ram).
 
 I have downloaded all the required files from
 debian/stable/disks-i386/current.  When I try to use rawrite to copy
 resc1440.bin and drv1440.bin to disk I get either address mark not found
 or sector not found error.  Attempting to boot with the rescue disk
 hangs my computer.  I was able to copy the other disk image files without
 problems.
 
There are several possibilities for these errors. First make sure you have
a top quality floppy (Check it with Norton DD or some such). Bad floppies
is the most common cause of failure. It is also not clear exactly how you
are using rawrite (BTW, this should be rawrite2.exe, found in the same
directory). If you are running windows, you will want to get to the dos
prompt for this, as windows will interfere with the write process. If you
have '95 the problem is more complex and I will deferr to someone with
more experience with that problem.
In addition, many laptops have problems with the bzImage that is provided
on the installation disk. Depending on which section of disks you
downloaded, there should be a special subdirectory that contains a tecra
and a v30 directory. The tecra kernel is a zImage and should work on your
machine. I would try these resc and drv disks and see if that helps the
problem.

Luck,

Dwarf
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suggestion for tape driver

1997-11-19 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi,

Thanks for all the help on the question of printer memory. I was thinking
at the same time of bying a tape driver fo backing up my system. 
Has anyone got any suggestion for a good tape driver which works with
Debian ? The system I will be backing up is about 2 Gig.  Any suggestions
will be appreciated. 

Thanks
 George 

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how to reduce colors used by netscape?

1997-11-19 Thread E Papantoniou
Hi all,

I am using a program that requires several colors available to operate
ptoperly. For example, if netscape is open and I use the other program,
whenever I enter its window with the mouse pointer, all the colors outside
that window change.

I have read that to correct the problem I must reduce the colors used by
netscape...does anybody know in which file are these defined?

thanks

Manos


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Re: qpopper and qmail

1997-11-19 Thread iforbes
 I'm having a little trouble getting qpopper_2.2-4 to work with
 qmail_1.01-1 on a bo system.
 
 I rebuilt the qpopper package with the changes suggested in the
 qmail package for $HOME mailboxes.
 
 The problems I am having have to do with inability to create
 and use the temporary maildrop file in /var/spool/pop.  I've
 tried messing with directory permissions and some other build
 definitions in the makefile and popper.h, but so far no luck.
 
 I have a feeling this is some kind of setuid/setgid type
 problem, but I'm kind of ignorant about most of that stuff.

 I think I'll get this figured out eventually, but if anyone has
 already gotten qpopper to work with qmail and would be willing to
 share configuration information, I'd really appreciate it.

I run qmail on a bo system, together with qpopper and I also battled 
with this.

I have the following in my /var/spool directory:

drwxrwsr-x   2 root mail 1024 Nov 19 16:28 mail
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mail 1024 Nov 19 16:28 pop

Only qpopper uses this.  I think the spool files go in one directory 
and the lock files in the other.  Qmail of course writes all mail 
and locking into the user's home directory.  I installed the 
qpopper*.deb file first and then replaced the binary with the patched 
one.

You might have to create the mail directory if you are not 
converting from sendmail or smail.

Once you have used qmail you will never look at anything else ...


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URGENT: strange floppy behaviour

1997-11-19 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi,

I tried to mount my floppy, the mount failed. I had to press  CTRL-C
a number of times to get apropmpt
and got the following messages in syslog

Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: floppy driver state 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: --- 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: now=35953273 last interrupt=35952973 last
call
ed handler=0017f04c 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: timeout_message=floppy start 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: last output bytes: 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel:  8 80 35952971 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield last message repeated 4 times
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel:  3 80 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: c1 90 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: 10 90 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel:  7 80 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel:  0 90 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel:  8 81 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: e6 80 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel:  0 90 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield last message repeated 2 times
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel:  1 90 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel:  2 90 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: 12 90 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: 1b 90 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: ff 90 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: last result at 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: last redo_fd_request at 35952973 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: 20  0  
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: status=10 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: fdc_busy=1 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: DEVICE_INTR=0017dfa8 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: fd_timer.function=0017df10 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: cont=001d51bc 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: CURRENT=001ead7c 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: command_status=-1 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel:  
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: floppy0: floppy timeout called 
Nov 19 14:26:34 garfield kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector
0 
Nov 19 14:26:46 garfield kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00 
Nov 19 14:26:53 garfield kernel: floppy0: probe failed... 
Nov 19 14:26:59 garfield last message repeated 15 times
Nov 19 14:26:59 garfield kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector
0 
Nov 19 14:26:59 garfield kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00 
Nov 19 14:27:06 garfield kernel: floppy0: probe failed... 
Nov 19 14:27:12 garfield last message repeated 15 times
Nov 19 14:27:12 garfield kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector
0 
Nov 19 14:27:19 garfield kernel: floppy0: probe failed... 
:
Nov 19 14:27:25 garfield last message repeated 15 times
Nov 19 14:27:25 garfield kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector
0 
Nov 19 14:27:25 garfield kernel: FAT bread failed 
Nov 19 14:27:27 garfield kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00 
Nov 19 14:27:33 garfield kernel: floppy0: probe failed... 
Nov 19 14:27:39 garfield last message repeated 15 times
Nov 19 14:27:39 garfield kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector
0 
Nov 19 14:27:39 garfield kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00 
Nov 19 14:27:46 garfield kernel: floppy0: probe failed... 
Nov 19 14:27:52 garfield last message repeated 15 times
Nov 19 14:27:52 garfield kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector
0 
Nov 19 14:27:59 garfield kernel: floppy0: probe failed... 
Nov 19 14:28:05 garfield last message repeated 15 times
Nov 19 14:28:05 garfield kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector
0 
Nov 19 14:28:05 garfield kernel: FAT bread failed 
Nov 19 14:28:40 garfield kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00 
Nov 19 14:28:48 garfield kernel: floppy0: probe failed... 
Nov 19 14:28:53 garfield last message repeated 15 times
Nov 19 14:28:53 garfield kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector
0 
Nov 19 14:28:53 garfield kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00 
Nov 19 14:29:00 garfield kernel: floppy0: probe failed... 

What is going on ? PLease help !!
It might help to note that I have installed a second HD between the last
time I used the flopy and now. However the floppy gets acessed  because
the light goes on...

Thanks 
George  


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Re: fat32 in installation vfat module?

1997-11-19 Thread John Goerzen
Matt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm interested in submitting a 'Beginner's Debian Installation Guide' of
 some sort.  I have about 80% of the framework of one completed, but am
 concerned about the lack of fat32 support.  As is stands, if someone has a
 new computer formatted in fat32, they would have to format a fat16
 partition to download the packages into.  the vfat module in the

Not correct.  In no case do you have to download the packages onto a
non-Debian partition.  dselect can automatically grab the packages you
need on-the-fly via PPP, Ethernet, Token Ring, or whatever network
system you have.  There is no need to download them beforehand; in
fact, doing so will probably be much more difficult.

 installation process won't allow a fat32 partition to be mounted and the
 base-install doesn't have full ppp support for dialup.
 
 I'm afraid I'm no programmer, I'm a user trying to learn as much as I can
 and help out, if possible.  I don't know how difficult it would be to make
 the installation vfat module fat32 compliant.  I would, however, like to
 submit a document for review.
 
 Should I submit one based on the current situation, or could the module be
 'patched'?  I would be very appreciative to hear any opinion on this, and
 how such a document might be received.
 
 TIA for your consideration :)
 
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Re: squid

1997-11-19 Thread Behan Webster
A thought.  We run amd here which we use to remotely mount /usr/share
(amongst others that probably don't make any difference to squid).

Could that have anything to do with the problem we're experiencing with
squid?  (i.e. it fails to start at boottime but works fine if restarted
by root from the commandline once the coputer is up)

Since amd starts so late in the boot scripts, we've found at least one
script (/etc/rc.boot/svgatextmode) that relies on files
(/usr/share/consolefonts) which are on a filesystem that hasn't been
mounted yet!  This of course means that this script fails to run.

Just an idea...

Behan

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Re: unstable. How?

1997-11-19 Thread David Gaudine


On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Brian Skreeg wrote:

 I just totally give up with this. Running debian 1.3.1 from CD but now I feel
 I need to delve into unstable again (always happens). Thing is, unstable has
 moved dir`s in the distribution and I`ll be damned if I can get the right
 entries into dpkg-ftp to download from it. What paths do I put in? No matter
 what do , either it can`t get the package file (once updated) or can`t find
 the files I want to d`load.

I use:

ftp site: ftp.debian.org

debian directory: /debian

dists/unstable/main dists/unstable/contrib dists/unstable/non-free


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screen problems

1997-11-19 Thread Paul
Hi everybody, I'm having trouble with console #1 ctrlaltF1.  when I
do an ls command the rows are not the same down the column.  I know there
is a way to redraw the screen but i forgot how.
Can sombody help me.
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Re: how to reduce colors used by netscape?

1997-11-19 Thread Paul Seelig
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, E Papantoniou wrote:

 I have read that to correct the problem I must reduce the colors used by
 netscape...does anybody know in which file are these defined?
 
Put this into ~/.Xresources:

! For Netscape 3.04:
! Reducing color usage number of colors:
Netscape*maxImageColors:64 

And while we are at it:

! Turning off the blink tag:
Netscape*blinkingEnabled:   False
! Turning off loading of background images:
Netscape*documentColorsHavePriority:False

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Re: Removing obsolete packages

1997-11-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Lukas Eppler hat gesagt: // Lukas Eppler wrote:

 On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Dirk Bonne wrote:
 
   Lukas == Lukas Eppler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  Lukas Hi, When I remove a package, which contains files also
  Lukas contained in other packages, is it removed?
  
  Lukas Or, if I remove a file from perl-base, is /usr/bin/perl
  Lukas still there afterwards, because it's contained in the perl
  Lukas package?  Do I risk perl and dpkg to be unable to run by
  Lukas removing perl-base?
  
  dpkg will refuse to remove a package if it removal would break another
  installed package (except if you force dpkg)
 
 Nooo... see what happened
 
 io# /etc/init.d/sendmail start
 /etc/init.d/sendmail: /usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon: No such file or
 directory
 io# head -3 /usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon
 #!/usr/bin/perl --
 
 $version= '1.4.0.8'; # This line modified by Makefile
 io# ls /usr/bin/perl
 ls: /usr/bin/perl: No such file or directory
 
 That was exactly why I asked, to avoid this!
 I used dselect, no happy dpkg hacking. grunt.
 
 perl-base was marked Obsolete.
 
 -- 

Had the same problem a while ago. After upgrading perl I remove the obsolete
old perl via dselect. It turned out that /usr/bin/perl had disappeared after 
this. But there was a /usr/bin/perl5... I symlinked it to /usr/bin/perl
and everything was okay. 

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Re: screen problems

1997-11-19 Thread Ben Pfaff
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Hi everybody, I'm having trouble with console #1 ctrlaltF1.  when I
 do an ls command the rows are not the same down the column.  I know there
 is a way to redraw the screen but i forgot how.
 Can sombody help me.

Try the reset command.
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Re: unstable. How?

1997-11-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Brian Skreeg hat gesagt: // Brian Skreeg wrote:

 
 hi folks,
 
 I just totally give up with this. Running debian 1.3.1 from CD but now I feel
 I need to delve into unstable again (always happens). Thing is, unstable has
 moved dir`s in the distribution and I`ll be damned if I can get the right
 entries into dpkg-ftp to download from it. What paths do I put in? No matter
 what do , either it can`t get the package file (once updated) or can`t find
 the files I want to d`load.
 
 Help!!? 
 
 

You really should read and study the libc5-libc6-Howto
at:

o  http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

It explains even dpkg-ftp!

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no write permissions for /tmp

1997-11-19 Thread Rick Hawkins

hmm.  after putting my new pieces together, i've lost write permissions
in /tmp

lyx can't create its temporary directory, emacs sometimes gets a
permission denied to make /tmp/emacs when sending mail, and exmh has
similar problems:

 error while autoloading Cache_Init: can't create directory 
/tmp/.webtkcache: permission denied
while executing

gee, I have lots of questions this week :)


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Re: how to reduce colors used by netscape?

1997-11-19 Thread Rick Hawkins


 I am using a program that requires several colors available to operate
 ptoperly. For example, if netscape is open and I use the other program,
 whenever I enter its window with the mouse pointer, all the colors outside
 that window change.

do you need the programs at the same time?  If you use netscape with the
-install option, it uses a private color map; it will not consume any
colors from other applications.  however, the solor map is switched away
as you enter/exit netscape.

From your description, the other program may already be doing this.

rick


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TkSTEP...anyone done it?

1997-11-19 Thread Andrew Akins
Now that my system is up and running stable, I thought I'd mess around
with it :)

I'm interested in installing TkSTEP. I've got Tk4.1 and Tk4.2 installed
using the standard debian packages. I was wondering if anyone out there
in debian-land has installed TkSTEP. And if so, what steps are involved?
There doesn't seem to be a TkSTEP package, so I'm assuming I gotta do
this by hand. 

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: unstable. How?

1997-11-19 Thread Rick Hawkins

 I just totally give up with this. Running debian 1.3.1 from CD but now I feel
 I need to delve into unstable again (always happens). Thing is, unstable has
 moved dir`s in the distribution and I`ll be damned if I can get the right
 entries into dpkg-ftp to download from it. What paths do I put in? No matter
 what do , either it can`t get the package file (once updated) or can`t find
 the files I want to d`load.

try /debian/hamm/hamm

I couldn't find the symlink for unstable last night.  For that matter,
dselect could get a listing of hamm when getting the list of availalbe
files, but not when trying to install them.  I assume that I was logging
inabout the same time as somethign was updating the site.

rick


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Re: fat32 in installation vfat module?

1997-11-19 Thread Matt Thompson
  I'm interested in submitting a 'Beginner's Debian Installation Guide' of
  some sort.  I have about 80% of the framework of one completed, but am
  concerned about the lack of fat32 support.  As is stands, if someone has a
  new computer formatted in fat32, they would have to format a fat16
  partition to download the packages into.  the vfat module in the
 
 Not correct.  In no case do you have to download the packages onto a
 non-Debian partition.  dselect can automatically grab the packages you
 need on-the-fly via PPP, Ethernet, Token Ring, or whatever network
 system you have.  There is no need to download them beforehand; in
 fact, doing so will probably be much more difficult.

I was under the impression that the base install doesn't come with full
PPP support (it says this during installation).  After the base install
(from floppy), you still are unable to dialup.  If you could dialup, that
would, of course, solve everything.

Thanks,
Matt


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IP Masquerading and the IP Masquerading kernel

1997-11-19 Thread Behan Webster
I just upgraded one of our servers from the 2.0 kernel to the 2.1.64
kernel.  Unfortunately it wasn't as seemless an upgrade as I would have
hoped for.  The main problem being that IP Masquerading stopped
working.  I made no changes to any setup, just installed the new
kernel.  I've included the config file below.

Does anyone know of any changes to the use of the IP Masquerading in the
linux kernel?

These are the ipfwadm rules I use:

/sbin/ipfwadm -F -p deny
/sbin/ipfwadm -F -a masquerade -S localnet/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0

Thanks,

Behan

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#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KERNELD=y

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y
CONFIG_NET=y
# CONFIG_PCI is not set
# CONFIG_MCA is not set
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=m
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y
# CONFIG_BINFMT_JAVA is not set
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
CONFIG_M486=y
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M686 is not set
CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y
CONFIG_PARPORT=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m

#
# Plug and Play support
#
# CONFIG_PNP is not set

#
# Floppy, IDE, and other block devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=m

#
# Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI is not set

#
# Additional Block Devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_EZ is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set

#
# Networking options
#
CONFIG_NETLINK=y
CONFIG_RTNETLINK=y
CONFIG_FIREWALL=y
# CONFIG_NET_SECURITY is not set
CONFIG_NET_ALIAS=y
CONFIG_INET=y
# CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL=y
CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL_NETLINK=y
CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL_VERBOSE=y
CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE=y

#
# Protocol-specific masquerading support will be built as modules.
#
CONFIG_IP_TRANSPARENT_PROXY=y
CONFIG_IP_ALWAYS_DEFRAG=y
CONFIG_IP_ACCT=y
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set
CONFIG_IP_ALIAS=m
CONFIG_ARPD=y
CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y

#
# (it is safe to leave these untouched)
#
# CONFIG_INET_PCTCP is not set
CONFIG_INET_RARP=m
CONFIG_PATH_MTU_DISCOVERY=y
CONFIG_IP_NOSR=y
CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y
# CONFIG_IPV6 is not set

#
#
#
# CONFIG_IPX is not set
# CONFIG_ATALK is not set
# CONFIG_AX25 is not set
# CONFIG_X25 is not set
# CONFIG_LAPB is not set
# CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set
# CONFIG_LLC is not set
# CONFIG_WAN_ROUTER is not set

#
# SCSI support
#
CONFIG_SCSI=y

#
# SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR=y
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=m

#
# Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs
#
# CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS=y

#
# SCSI low-level drivers
#
# CONFIG_SCSI_7000FASST is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA152X is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1542=y
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1740 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ADVANSYS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IN2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AM53C974 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DTC3280 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_DMA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_PIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GDTH is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GENERIC_NCR5380 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C406A is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PPA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PAS16 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2220I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PSI240I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FAS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SEAGATE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_T128 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_U14_34F is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ULTRASTOR is not set

#
# Network device support
#
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y
# CONFIG_ARCNET is not set
CONFIG_DUMMY=m
# CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set
# CONFIG_ETHERTAP is not set
CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM is not set
# CONFIG_LANCE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_SMC is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_RACAL is not set
CONFIG_NET_ISA=y
# CONFIG_AT1700 is not set
# CONFIG_E2100 is not set
# CONFIG_DEPCA is not set
# CONFIG_EWRK3 is not set
# CONFIG_EEXPRESS is not set
# CONFIG_EEXPRESS_PRO is not set
# CONFIG_FMV18X is not set
# CONFIG_HPLAN_PLUS is not set
# CONFIG_HPLAN is not set
# CONFIG_HP100 is not set
# CONFIG_ETH16I is not set
CONFIG_NE2000=m
# CONFIG_SEEQ8005 is not set
# CONFIG_SK_G16 is not set
# CONFIG_NET_EISA is not set
# CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set
# CONFIG_FDDI is not set
# CONFIG_DLCI is not set
# CONFIG_PLIP is not set
CONFIG_PPP=m

#
# CCP compressors for PPP are only built as modules.
#
# CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set
CONFIG_SLIP=m
CONFIG_SLIP_COMPRESSED=y
# CONFIG_SLIP_SMART is 

Re: How to use dpkg -b ??

1997-11-19 Thread Daniel Martin
On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Debian List wrote:

 Hi!!
 
 Thanks again...
 
 Ok I tried the dpkg-source -x and here's the error I got:
 dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./mgetty_1.1.8.orig.tar.gz' contains object
 (mgetty-1.1.8/README.1st) not in expected directory (mgetty-1.1.8.orig)
 
 Help! ;)
 
 Ricardo

I had a similar problem with the xemacs20 source package - here's what I
did, soup to nuts:

Got the .tar.gz, .dsc, and .diff.gz files from ftp.debian.org.
Since I have a bo system, I then had to make certain that I wasn't using
the ldso from hamm.  (the dpkg-dev in bo has problems with the ldd in ldso
1.9.x)
Then, after experiencing the same problem with dpkg-source, I untarred the
.tar.gz file into a temporary directory, and moved it about.  That is, I
did (something equivalent to)
cd /tmp
tar -xzf /usr/local/incoming/xemacs20_20.2.orig.tar.gz

Now, this should have created a directory called xemacs20-20.2.orig;
instead, however, it created xemacs-20.2.orig  (I think; I know that the
name was wrong, but can't remember exactly how it was wrong).  So then I
did:

mv xemacs-20.2.orig xemacs20-20.2.orig
tar -cf xemacs20_20.2.orig.tar xemacs20-20.2.orig
gzip xemacs20_20.2.orig.tar

This created a new xemacs20_20.2.orig.tar.gz - I then replaced the copy
I'd downloaded with this one.  This may be all that's needed; however, I
also took the extra precaution of modifying the .dsc file; in the .dsc
file there will be a line like:
  ece482d641199333788fb56bc6ea5e55 20651833 xemacs20_20.2.orig.tar.gz

I changed this to match my new xemacs20_20.2.orig.tar.gz - this first long
gobbledygook string was generated by 'md5sum xemacs20_20.2.orig.tar.gz' -
the number after that is the size as shown by ls -l.  As I said, this may
be unnecessary, but I did it anyway.

Then to compile the thing, I didn't use dpkg-buildpackage.  Instead, after
running the dpkg-source command to extract the package, I found that it
(the source) had been put in
/usr/local/incoming/xemacs20-20.2/

So then, I did:
cd /usr/local/incoming/xemacs20-20.2/
vi debian/rules

Now, the debian/rules file is just a makefile; I added the configuration
options I needed; you may have to make other changes, (possibly
in other files) depending on how mgetty is configured.

I then did a
debian/rules clean
debian/rules build
debian/rules binary

This produced (after _much_ compiling and whatnot) the .deb packages
(more than one since the xemacs source generates xemacs and
xemacs-support, etc.) I wanted in /usr/local/incoming.  I then could use
dpkg to install them as I would any newly-downloaded .deb package.

I think you can follow roughly this same procedure to compile your mgetty.




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Re: ncurses3.4

1997-11-19 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 18-Nov-97 skrifar Scott Ellis:
 
 Maybe if you'd tell us what is unstable for you it could be fixed.  I've
 only experienced neglegable problems using hamm.
 
  Ok, here is my system (Just for an overview, the latest in hamm).

kernel2.0.30
xbase 3.3.1
xlib6g3.3.1
xaw3dg1.3-6
ncurses3.41.9.9g
libc  5.4.33
libc  2.0.5c
xpm   xpm4g
jpeg  libjpegg6a
gcc   2.7.2.3
libg++272 2.7.2.8
libpaperg 1.0.3
ghostview 1.5-16
gs3.33-6
xfig  3.2.0
netbase   3.00
netstd3.00
ppp   2.3.1

  Now, I can use pppd to manually put up my network... but diald (which I
normally use) doesn't work, it will fail with 'sl0: transmit timeout, bad
line quality?'...

  And now lets see, here is ghostview...

(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/X11/ghostview 
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x804df70 in _start ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0x804df70 in _start ()
#1  0x80c2588 in ?? ()
#2  0x804c9fe in _start ()
(gdb) 

  And then there is xfig...

(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/X11/xfig 
xfig: this input-method don't support OffTheSpot input style
xfig: using ROOT input style instead.
(no debugging symbols found)...
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x4020d8a4 in free ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0x4020d8a4 in free ()
#1  0x4020d841 in free ()
#2  0x400c49ad in XtFree ()
#3  0x4006a543 in _XawMultiSaveAsFile ()
#4  0x40069f7d in XawListShowCurrent ()
#5  0x400e4837 in XtSetSensitive ()
#6  0x400e4daf in XtSetValues ()
#7  0x40079e5e in _XawTextExecuteUpdate ()
#8  0x400e4837 in XtSetSensitive ()
#9  0x400e47f8 in XtSetSensitive ()
#10 0x400e4daf in XtSetValues ()
#11 0x80b31c5 in _start ()
#12 0x80adb92 in _start ()
#13 0x809a85d in _start ()
#14 0x80a9d52 in _start ()
#15 0x80765bc in _start ()
(gdb) 


  These two programs are well known and function fully on normal Unix systems,
that is also why I list them here.  The problem, at least in the case of xfig,
is a clash between libc5 and libc6.  A library will establish a pointer through
libc5, and then X will try to free it through libc6... or in other cases this
is vice versa.  This case is interresting, because the backtrace shows that
this is the fault of the Xaw3d... this is because Xaw3d library is listed
before /usr/X11R6/lib in ld.so.conf, removing the reference to Xaw3d will
allow xfig to function normally... similar SIGSEGV are called in many programs,
even that I compile here, and usually the fault is found inside malloc() or
free()...

  All these problems have to do with collition between libraries, either at
the maintainers' or at the users end.


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Re: ncurses3.4

1997-11-19 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 18-Nov-97 skrifar Scott Ellis:
 
 The problem is that linking a program with both libc6 and librarys linked
 with libc5 will produce problems.  Programs that are linked this way
 should have bugs filed against them if they haven't been already.  Yes you
 need to purge and reconstruct your development environment, but it isn't
 impossible or even difficult to live with both c librarys.
 
  That is most likely true... but as a user, who want's to have a libc6
system.  Wouldn't it me more normal, to have the packages all developed
and linked to libc6 libraries, and provide libc5-compat libraries as an
extra (in hamm, that is), just to be able to run old programs?  The blended
environment that has been there for a while, is a little problematic IMHO.


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help with mounting particular CD

1997-11-19 Thread JD Thomlinson
I've got a CD that won't mount on FreeBSD 2.2.2 
(Yes, I'm working on getting them to install 
Debian ;) ).

Naturally, Debian (2.0.39) has no problem mounting and 
reading the directory structure.

Can anyone give me pointers to a Debian utility that could 
give me the file system type that Debian so sucessfully 
has mounted? Apparently it's not iso9660, or at least 
FBSD won't mount it as iso9660. FBSD will mount other CDs 
as iso9660. The CD is supposedly accessible by Unix, Win 95 
 NT, and Mac. I have managed to refuse to install Win 95  
NT so far, and am not about to start. 

Any potential help or pointers will be appreciated!

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Terminal setting: linux

1997-11-19 Thread PATRICK DAHIROC
Hi guys

I tried using gnuplot and treid to direct my out put to the screen but I
got an error message that the svga library is not available.  Does any
body know what wrong with this.  I don't think that the svga library is
missing since I found it through find and I get output through the screen.

Thanks
Pat


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Re: ncurses3.4

1997-11-19 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote:

   Now, I can use pppd to manually put up my network... but diald (which I
 normally use) doesn't work, it will fail with 'sl0: transmit timeout, bad
 line quality?'...

Okay, to be fair I never use diald, so I don't know what could be wrong
here.

   And now lets see, here is ghostview...
 
 (gdb) run
 Starting program: /usr/bin/X11/ghostview 
 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
 0x804df70 in _start ()
 (gdb) bt
 #0  0x804df70 in _start ()
 #1  0x80c2588 in ?? ()
 #2  0x804c9fe in _start ()
 (gdb) 
 
   And then there is xfig...
 
 (gdb) run
 Starting program: /usr/bin/X11/xfig 
 xfig: this input-method don't support OffTheSpot input style
 xfig: using ROOT input style instead.
 (no debugging symbols found)...
 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
 0x4020d8a4 in free ()
 (gdb) bt
 #0  0x4020d8a4 in free ()
 #1  0x4020d841 in free ()
 #2  0x400c49ad in XtFree ()
 #3  0x4006a543 in _XawMultiSaveAsFile ()
 #4  0x40069f7d in XawListShowCurrent ()
 #5  0x400e4837 in XtSetSensitive ()
 #6  0x400e4daf in XtSetValues ()
 #7  0x40079e5e in _XawTextExecuteUpdate ()
 #8  0x400e4837 in XtSetSensitive ()
 #9  0x400e47f8 in XtSetSensitive ()
 #10 0x400e4daf in XtSetValues ()
 #11 0x80b31c5 in _start ()
 #12 0x80adb92 in _start ()
 #13 0x809a85d in _start ()
 #14 0x80a9d52 in _start ()
 #15 0x80765bc in _start ()
 (gdb) 
 
 
   These two programs are well known and function fully on normal Unix
 systems, that is also why I list them here.  The problem, at least in
 the case of xfig, is a clash between libc5 and libc6.  A library will
 establish a pointer through libc5, and then X will try to free it
 through libc6... or in other cases this is vice versa.  This case is
 interresting, because the backtrace shows that this is the fault of the
 Xaw3d... this is because Xaw3d library is listed before /usr/X11R6/lib
 in ld.so.conf, removing the reference to Xaw3d will allow xfig to
 function normally... similar SIGSEGV are called in many programs, even
 that I compile here, and usually the fault is found inside malloc() or
 free()... 

See, you've pointed out the problem and even there is a solution.  Remove
xaw3d or update it to the version that is compiled correctly.  Its a bug
with the old xaw3d, the new version was uploaded recently (IIRC).

   All these problems have to do with collition between libraries, either at
 the maintainers' or at the users end.

Yep, it's a bug in xaw3d.  Not exactly making your system unusable, since
it is easilly fixed.

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Re: ncurses3.4

1997-11-19 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote:

 Þann 18-Nov-97 skrifar Scott Ellis:
  
  The problem is that linking a program with both libc6 and librarys linked
  with libc5 will produce problems.  Programs that are linked this way
  should have bugs filed against them if they haven't been already.  Yes you
  need to purge and reconstruct your development environment, but it isn't
  impossible or even difficult to live with both c librarys.
  
   That is most likely true... but as a user, who want's to have a libc6
 system.  Wouldn't it me more normal, to have the packages all developed
 and linked to libc6 libraries, and provide libc5-compat libraries as an
 extra (in hamm, that is), just to be able to run old programs?  The blended
 environment that has been there for a while, is a little problematic IMHO.

That's exactly what we're working on doing.  The problem is that we aren't
finished with it quite yet, it is time consuming to recompile over 1000
different packages.  Hamm will be as close to fully libc6 if we can make
it, but we aren't there yet.

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RE: Can I use Samba with dial-up?

1997-11-19 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 19-Nov-97 skrifar Oliver Elphick:
 I have to connect to a client through their Win/NT network to get to their
 Unix machine.  They want me to use Dial-Up Adapter from Win95, but this means
 that I have to drop all other useful work while I boot up that abomination.
 I can't make it work anyway, and as usual with MS stuff I can't find out
 what is going on.
 
 Can I use Samba to dial out on a modem and connect to their network?  I can
 see how to use Samba across a network, but not how to use it with a direct
 dial-up connection. 
 
 Since I actually want to talk to a Unix machine, can I do without Samba 
 altogether?
 
 Does MS Dial-up Adapter use ppp?
 If so, what kind of negotiation does it do? (I'm sure the customer won't
 know.)
 Is it possible to telnet through such a connection to the network beyond?
 

  It depends on how they've installed their system.  Usually M$ requires a
special M$ handshake with other M$ machines that dial into an NT administered
network.  But the NT can also handle normal PPP/PAP authendication on their
incoming dialup line.  If they use PAP authendication it's easy, the only
abomination from the rule is the user authendication part, which you put
into your pap-secrets file... it must look like


DOMAIN\\username  *  PASSWORD


  Where DOMAIN is the NT Domain that is assigned to dialin users at your
remote end.

  However, I was unable to use samba over the serial line... samba didn't
work over it (this was last summer, so maybe it has improved some).  But
once you're connected with PPP (with dynamic IP address for their intranet),
things should be according to your wishes.

  You may notice, that your remote NT server will behave strangely on an
occasion.  One part is, that when you are doing ftp it will freeze.  This
happens if you are downloading a large file, and there is a lot of delay on
the network... usually you'll get the whole file, but won't receive the last
signature packet.  So, just monitor the file until its full and then kill
the ftp session, to keep the file :-)

  Another really neat feature with NT server is, that after a while, especially
if the RAS is configured to use DHCP for the incoming lines instead of fixed
addresses. Is that you'll suddenly get a very LONG pause... this is because
the server got a few other dialers dialing in, and put you down the last on
his queue and forgot you (temporarily :-) ), if it get's annoyingly long till
it remembers you again... just hangup and re-dial the server :-)

  Ah... Don't you just love Micro$oft and their Neue Technoly? :-)


Hope that helps.


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Configuring dftp to get hamm

1997-11-19 Thread Frere Roy
Hello,

After having successfully upgraded from lib5 to libc6 following to the 
letter Scott Ellis's mini-HOWTO I am now trying to 
configure dftp to upgrade my whole system to hamm.

Can someone help me with the configuration of my /~dftprc file  it 
seems to keep wanting to look in binary-binary-i386 !

~/.dftprc

include: devel
exclude: electronics,games,graphics,hamradio,math,sound,tex,web,x11
ftpsite: ftp.us.debian.org
ftpdir:  /debian/hamm/hamm
arch:binary-i386

.logfile
cd /debian/hamm/hamm
250 CWD command successful.
get devel/binary-binary-i386/Packages.gz 
devel/binary-binary-i386/Packages.gz 
200 PORT command successful. 
550 devel/binary-binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory. 
bye 
221 Goodbye.

Thanks Frere Roy

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Re: help with mounting particular CD

1997-11-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, JD Thomlinson wrote:

 I've got a CD that won't mount on FreeBSD 2.2.2 
 (Yes, I'm working on getting them to install 
 Debian ;) ).
 
 Naturally, Debian (2.0.39) has no problem mounting and 
 reading the directory structure.
 
 Can anyone give me pointers to a Debian utility that could 
 give me the file system type that Debian so sucessfully 
 has mounted? Apparently it's not iso9660, or at least 
 FBSD won't mount it as iso9660. FBSD will mount other CDs 
 as iso9660. The CD is supposedly accessible by Unix, Win 95 
  NT, and Mac. I have managed to refuse to install Win 95  
 NT so far, and am not about to start. 
 
 Any potential help or pointers will be appreciated!
 
As this is supposed to work with any of the 4 mentioned OSs (well three
actually, some would say that NT and 95 are at least cousins...)

If the Unix image is not iso9660, then it is either minix, ext, or ext2 if
it is a linux image. There are other file systems on other unices so it
really may depend...

I would try ext2 first, then probably sv4 if bsd supports it.

You are working on a system about which I know almost nothing, so I don't
feel much confidence in my answers. I hope I have been of some little
help.

Luck,

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Best partition distibution for new install.

1997-11-19 Thread Antonio Marrosu
 Deal All:
 
I am about to install Debian Linux 1.3.1 on my computer. My 
 question would be which is the best way to distribute partitions for 
 my Linux installation on a 1.6GB which is connected to the secondary 
 controller in the MB as a Master having a CD-ROM as a Slave. I want to 
 boot from my C:\ (which is a fat32 partition using Windows95) and then 
 load Linux using Loadlin. My system is a K6-200, 64MB sdram, Graphics 
 Blaster3D, SB AWE64, Does anybody see any incompatibility problem with 
 my hardware. Also would like to install X11. Any advise would be 
 greatly appreciated. TIA.
 
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Re: user questions

1997-11-19 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Sten Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 A third proposal:
 
 3) Write a Debian Novice Guide (lets get rid of that ugly
n... word!), and make this guide a frequent posting to this list.

Take a look at 

http://www.linuxpress.com/debuser.htm

I havn't read the document yet but it calls itself The Debian Linux
User's Guide.  It is available in printed form with ISBN 0-9659575-0-0.

Torsten

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Re: Pentium error

1997-11-19 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Nah, don't worry:
  1) Linux has already a patch against it (2.0.32-pre5, soon to be 2.0.32),

I installed 2.0.32 and it works fine, especially in avoiding the bug.
If Linux would behave better when the virtual memory is filled there
is almost no way left to crash it.


  2) Intel has been estonishingly linux-friendly (Linux went to their 
 headquarters discussing the linux patch, they mention Linux on the
 web page they devoted to the bug)
  3) NT is not multi-user, it's sequential multi-user (and even that, badly).
 I mean, you cannot telnet onto an NT box and crash an other user session
 (hence sequential). Furthermore, IMHO, it doesn't need a pentium bug
 to crash it.

You don't even need a multi-user system.  Think about Active-X
controls, Trojan Horses placed somewhere in the file system.

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Re: patgen

1997-11-19 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hallo,
 
 As far as my knowledge go, there is no hyphenation-file for Afrikaans.  
 
 I discovered patgen on my filesystem and want to try it out on a file
 with hyphenated words I have built up. 
 
 Unfortunately the man-page (Tetex on Linux) does not explain what the
 so-called translate file means.  How do I use patgen? 

Please ask in comp.text.tex or (if you speak German) in de.comp.text.tex

Patgen is not easy to use, you need a very good dictionary with the
most important words of your language and some experience.

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Re: Help needed intalling debian

1997-11-19 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
David Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 
 I am brand new to linux and debian.  I have been trying to intall debian
 on my Toshiba T1910 laptop (intel 486sx33, 4mb ram).
 
 I have downloaded all the required files from
 debian/stable/disks-i386/current.  When I try to use rawrite to copy
 resc1440.bin and drv1440.bin to disk I get either address mark not
 found or sector not found error.  Attempting to boot with the
 rescue disk hangs my computer.  I was able to copy the other disk
 image files without problems.

Make sure that the size of the images is unchanged, i.e. no corruption
while transfering such as LF-CR/LF conversation has occured.  The
error messages could also mean that your floppy disk has media errors,
try a format a: /u in DOS (I assume you use it for rawriting) and
look if any errors are reported.

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Re: Memory and printing

1997-11-19 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
G. Kapetanios [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 
 I am thinking of bying a laser printer but I have one question. I
 will be printing some large documents with lots of graphics in
 them. The files will have the postscript format. For example one
 file I recently printed was 6.2 Mb. The cheapest laser printer is HP
 6L with 1 Mb of memory. Does this mean I will not be able to print
 my files which are larger than 1 Mb? Or doesn't it matter as long as
 my computer memory is large enough ?  Any hint will be appreciated.

The printer will be unable to print *pages* which pixels (as provided
by Ghostscript) will not fit in memory.  If you have 10 pages, each
needing about 600k, you only need 600k for printing them as the pages
are discarded from memory as soon they are printed.

I suggest you purchase an additional 4MB JEIDA memory expansion card
(about DM 100 = $ 56), don't buy the original from HP as it is much
more expansive.  They are also available with 1MB, 2MB, and 8MB in
size.

When I had the original 1 MB memory in my Laserjet 5L (very similiar
to your model) I had problems printing some pages with a lot of text
(e.g. a2ps double-sided), the printer was unable to compress this
information to fit in 1 MB and left out some pixel (it did not even
switched to 300dpi).

The additional memory will also allow you to use download-fonts (is
this supported by ghostscript?) and buffer some pages.

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debian 2.0

1997-11-19 Thread Timothy Phan
Hi Y'all,

  I think this question has been asked before and I'd like to bring
  it up again since it been a while.

  Is there a set day for the Debian 2.0 (or the next release after 1.3.1)?

  Where can I find the status of this beside posting this mail frequently!

  Thanks!

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Re: ncurses3.4

1997-11-19 Thread Philippe Troin

On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:34:52 EST Scott Ellis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote:
 
Now, I can use pppd to manually put up my network... but diald (which I
  normally use) doesn't work, it will fail with 'sl0: transmit timeout, bad
  line quality?'...
 
 Okay, to be fair I never use diald, so I don't know what could be wrong
 here.

Change the network: line of /etc/nsswitch.conf from files dns to files.
That should make it.

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video cards

1997-11-19 Thread Paul Miller
I'm looking for a PCI video card for Linux, which will allow me to do at
least 1024x768 in 24bit mode.. and of course as fast as possible.  I would
like to spend around $300.. 

Here are a few cards I've looked at:
Diamond Fire GL 1000 Pro (8 meg) - $250
Matrox Millennium II (8 meg) - $310
ATI [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8 meg) - $250
ATI [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8 meg) - $300

Right now I'm thinking about the Matrox Millennium II (8 meg).. Are there
any other cards which have better proformence?  and how well are these
cards supported under Linux/X?

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Strange network

1997-11-19 Thread Mike Patterson

Problem: I try to telnet to my system, and after typing the first two or three
 characters of my username, my connection hangs. The system on the
 other end is apparently ok.

System: Hooked In through an ISP called WantWeb, the system is connected
to a Hybrid modem acting as a gateway to the net. The Hybrid modem 
takes outgoing signals and pushes them through a standard modem, and
recieves signals beck from a microwave antenna. 

Notes: The Linux box is running debian 1.3 from CheaapBytes. It uses IP 
   masquerading to service the other systems in my house, but this should
   be irrelevant. This is the machine I am telnetting to. 

   Since I'm on essentially a dial-on-demand system, When someone (like me
   in this situation) tries to connect to my box, it might take a second
   or two to dial me, but then transmission should be fine. This was the 
   case until recently. 

Recent changes: Added web site, a couple of external accounts, etc. 


Does anyone have a way that I can, say, test the load on a line (using a text
window-- the linux system isn't running X currently)? This would solve one of
my suspicions-- That someone could be bogging down the net (not likely, since
This happens when noone is logged in and the web site isn't being accessed).

Otherwise, any ideas? 


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Re: no write permissions for /tmp

1997-11-19 Thread Bob Clark
Did you perhaps restore from backup?  If for example you use
tar, permissions on files created (including /tmp) are
affected by umask.  Root's default umask is 022 which blocks
out write permission for group and others.  Two ways to
avoid this are: set umask to zero before restoring or use
the -p option on tar.

--Bob

Rick Hawkins wrote:
 
 hmm.  after putting my new pieces together, i've lost write permissions
 in /tmp
 
 lyx can't create its temporary directory, emacs sometimes gets a
 permission denied to make /tmp/emacs when sending mail, and exmh has
 similar problems:
 
  error while autoloading Cache_Init: can't create directory 
 /tmp/.webtkcache: permission denied
 while executing
 
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Re: fat32 in installation vfat module?

1997-11-19 Thread Igor Grobman
   I'm interested in submitting a 'Beginner's Debian Installation Guide' of
   some sort.  I have about 80% of the framework of one completed, but am
   concerned about the lack of fat32 support.  As is stands, if someone has a
   new computer formatted in fat32, they would have to format a fat16
   partition to download the packages into.  the vfat module in the
  
  Not correct.  In no case do you have to download the packages onto a
  non-Debian partition.  dselect can automatically grab the packages you
  need on-the-fly via PPP, Ethernet, Token Ring, or whatever network
  system you have.  There is no need to download them beforehand; in
  fact, doing so will probably be much more difficult.
 
 I was under the impression that the base install doesn't come with full
 PPP support (it says this during installation).  After the base install
 (from floppy), you still are unable to dialup.  If you could dialup, that
 would, of course, solve everything.

The ppp support is not fully setup, you need to provide some configuration, 
but all the programs needed for a ppp connection are part of base
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Re: Memory and printing

1997-11-19 Thread Paul Huygen
 Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote that Paul Huygen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 I do almost everything with LaTeX via Postscript (Ghostscript). When I
 bought an HP LJ5 printer with 1 Mb of memory I soon discovered that
 that amount of memory was utterly insufficient for even simple text
 pages. So I added 4 Mb of memory (to a total of 5 Mb), and since then I
 have never had any problem, even with the most complicated graphics.

and then Hamish asked:

Is that a straight LaserJet 5? Like Ben I have the 5L and have
never run out of memory printing (at 300dpi), either direct PCL stuff
from Windows or conversions from ghostscript.

Yes, it is a straight LaserJet 5L. However, I find 600dpi much more
beautiful than 300dpi. Therefore I use the printer at 600dpi, which
costs app. 4 times as memory as 300dpi does. Furthermore, I presume
that at least Windows uses the fonts that are built into the
printer which is economical. Standard LaTeX however, uploads it own
fonts to the printer and this adds to the memory consumption of course.

Regards,

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ISDN PAP and Debian

1997-11-19 Thread Iztok Umek
Hello!

I have trouble with authentification it seems.

Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: Local number: 0611421240, Remote number: 
1691140, Type: outgoing
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: PHASE_WAIT - PHASE_ESTABLISHED, ifunit: 0, 
linkunit: 0, fd: 7
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: sent [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 
magic 0xc061 pcomp accomp]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x9c auth pap 
magic 0xd383b861]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: sent [0][LCP ConfRej id=0x9c auth pap]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfAck id=0x1 mru 1500 
magic 0xc061 pcomp accomp]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x9d auth pap 
magic 0xd383b861]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: sent [0][LCP ConfRej id=0x9d auth pap]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x9e auth pap 
magic 0xd383b861]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: sent [0][LCP ConfRej id=0x9e auth pap]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x9f auth pap 
magic 0xd383b861]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: sent [0][LCP ConfRej id=0x9e auth pap]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x9f auth pap 
magic 0xd383b861]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: sent [0][LCP ConfRej id=0x9f auth pap]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0xa0 auth pap 
magic 0xd383b861]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: sent [0][LCP ConfRej id=0xa0 auth pap]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: rcvd [0][LCP TermReq id=0xa1]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: sent [0][LCP TermAck id=0xa1]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0xa2 auth pap 
magic 0xd383b861]
Nov 19 21:29:30 stealth ipppd[589]: sent [0][LCP ConfRej id=0xa2 auth pap]
Nov 19 21:29:31 stealth kernel: isdn: HiSax,ch0 cause: E0010 
Nov 19 21:29:31 stealth kernel: ippp0: remote hangup 
Nov 19 21:29:31 stealth kernel: ippp0: Chargesum is 0 
Nov 19 21:29:31 stealth ipppd[589]: Modem hangup
Nov 19 21:29:31 stealth ipppd[589]: Connection terminated.
Nov 19 21:29:31 stealth ipppd[589]: taking down PHASE_DEAD link 0, linkunit: 0

I am confused what files are there to edit for ipppd.

I edited /etc/ppp/pap-secrets

for outgoing I have:

username * password

and /etc/isdn/ipppd.ippp0 I enabled nex things:

debug
name username
user username
require-pap

I don't know exactly what should I put in those name, username and remotename

Regards,
Iztok

P.S.: How do I know for sure that I have debian ipppd?


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Re: user questions

1997-11-19 Thread Sten Anderson
Torsten Hilbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sten Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  A third proposal:
  
  3) Write a Debian Novice Guide (lets get rid of that ugly
 n... word!), and make this guide a frequent posting to this list.
 
 Take a look at 
 
 http://www.linuxpress.com/debuser.htm
 
 I havn't read the document yet but it calls itself The Debian Linux
 User's Guide.  It is available in printed form with ISBN 0-9659575-0-0.

I have read it, and it is an excellent and highly recommneded
book. But my intension was not a book, but a short 1 or 2 page
document providing pointers to, amongst other things, this book. 

I imagine something like a META-RTFM. A short (regularly updated)
document saying where all those fine manuals are.  

It could be a frequent posting to this list, or be an initial posting
to all new subscribers. 

- Sten Anderson


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Re: compile problems on new k6

1997-11-19 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hamish Moffatt wrote:
  How old is the K6, and how much RAM do you have Rick?
  Some K6s made before a certain week this year had some trouble
  with 32mb of RAM that could cause problems like this. I have 64mb
  and mine seems fine; I think the magic date was some time in September.
  I have my 166 overclocked to 180.
 
 All K6 built before week 30 have this problem.
what sort of id numbers are those that have been made before week 30? I
have two K6 233 MHz. One of them fails the bug test the other one passes.
the passing chip is on a 64MB and the failing ine is on the 128MB system.
They both have the same id number: C9738BPOW.

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Re: TkSTEP...anyone done it?

1997-11-19 Thread Steve Witt
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Andrew Akins wrote:

 Now that my system is up and running stable, I thought I'd mess around
 with it :)
 
 I'm interested in installing TkSTEP. I've got Tk4.1 and Tk4.2 installed
 using the standard debian packages. I was wondering if anyone out there
 in debian-land has installed TkSTEP. And if so, what steps are involved?
 There doesn't seem to be a TkSTEP package, so I'm assuming I gotta do
 this by hand. 
 
 Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Yes, I'm running it at home on a Linux system and was running it at work
on my Sun.  Although its been a while and I don't remember the
installation process intimately, I don't think I had any problems at all. 
Just download the gzip'd tar file, uncompress/untar, and follow the
installation instructions.  If anything it seems that these days its
easier to build things on a Linux system than on a Sun!  Don't worry about
things if you have some trouble.  This is one of those applications that
won't mess up anything else on you system if you build/install it and have
problems.  TkStep just won't work, but nothing else should be affected. 
But, as I said, it should build just fine 'out of the box' so to speak.

I'm using fvwm2 as my window manager so I believe I start TkStep from the
initialization clause in the .fvwm2rc file.


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Re: Best partition distibution for new install.

1997-11-19 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Antonio Marrosu wrote:

   I am about to install Debian Linux 1.3.1 on my computer. My 
 question would be which is the best way to distribute partitions for 
 my Linux installation on a 1.6GB which is connected to the secondary 
 controller in the MB as a Master having a CD-ROM as a Slave. I want to 
 boot from my C:\ (which is a fat32 partition using Windows95) and then 
 load Linux using Loadlin.

 Well, I just sent a message about this yesterday, Re: mounting. To 
repeat some of the information involved:

 In my system, I have two hard drives:

 hda is a 1-gig drive with four partitions. 250MB for dos/win3.11, 250MB 
for /, 500MB for /usr, and 32MB as swap.

 hdb is a 400MB drive, with 200MB for dos and 200MB for user accounts.

 Here's my current usage:
 
/dev/hda2 247871   40279   194791 17%   /
/dev/hda3 496691  37122299816 79%   /usr
/dev/hdb2 199079  10778081018 57%   /home

 For a 1.6G drive that goes entirely to Linux... hmmm. Some of it depends 
on what you want to do with the system, of course. Is it going to be a 
file server or anything like that?

 The second thing to think about is the PC's somewhat dated partition 
scheme. You can only have 4 physical partitions on a drive, but you can 
divide those partition into logical partitions. All things being equal, 
it's better to avoid logical partitions if you can. It's also simpler for 
you, the installer. :-

 You'll want a root partition (where, among other things, kernels and 
temp files will be stored), a swap partition (*much* faster than a 
swapfile), a /usr partition (this is where most of the applications and 
such go), and a /home partition (for user accounts).

 The root partition doesn't have to be terribly large - 250MB *max*, 
probably more like 100-150MB. You have to decide how much swap you'll 
need, but the standard rule of thumb is 1-2 times the amount of physical 
ram you have, so in your case that's 64-128MB. (I seem to recall that 
there are issues with swap partitions greater than 128MB, but I don't 
remember any details, sorry.) I have a 500MB /usr, and it's starting to 
get a little cramped - 600MB ought to be plenty.

 That leaves about 600-700MB for /home, where you'll keep your personal 
files. Should be plenty of room, unless you'll be storing large 
quantities of incompressible info, like graphic files, sounds, or movies. 
You'll have to make the call on that.

 Put the swap partition in the middle of the drive if you can. This helps
to minimize seek times and helps you get to swap a little faster. That's 
the theory, anyway.

  My system is a K6-200, 64MB sdram, Graphics 
  Blaster3D, SB AWE64, Does anybody see any incompatibility problem with 
  my hardware. Also would like to install X11. Any advise would be 
  greatly appreciated. TIA.

 I dunno about the Graphics Blaster3D, but it's probably supported. The 
SB64 can be used as a SB16, I think. If you want to spend $20 for the 
Open Sound System (commercial software for Linux) you can get full 
support for the SB64.

 Hope this helps...

 Sincerely,

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Re: Maintaining a Debian mirror via floppy net

1997-11-19 Thread Christian Leutloff
David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I have a PC at home running Debian with no connection to the net.
 
 So do I. When I install packages, I copy the debian/ tree to a jaz disk

perhaps you want to have a look to dftp:

Package: dftp
Version: 3.1-2
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Maintainer: Roman Hodek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Depends: perl, dpkg (= 1.4)
Architecture: all
Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/admin/dftp_3.1-2.deb
Size: 22458
MD5sum: 5c1a9c8034d4f27cf21a56f44c96523c
Description: Linux Debian Distribution Packages Maintainer
 The purpose of this program is to make it easy to keep your local
 installation of Linux consistent with the Debian distribution
 available on many FTP sites, NFS mounts, or CD-ROM.  It does this by
 comparing the list of installed packages with those available by FTP
 or at a specified directory.  A list of packages, categorized to make
 selection easier, is then presented to the user to choose what to
 install.  All selected packages are then fetched if necessary (using
 FTP), verified for correctness, and then installed.
 .
 Dftp can also be run on a non-Debian machine in the case where the
 Debian machine does not have FTP access.  For this, stand-alone
 versions of dftp, in both csh and perl source, are available under
 /debian/project/misc.
installed-size: 84

Bye
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Re: compile problems on new k6

1997-11-19 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Wed, Nov 19, 1997 at 11:16:22PM +0200, Daniel Mashao wrote:
 On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hamish Moffatt wrote:
   How old is the K6, and how much RAM do you have Rick?
   Some K6s made before a certain week this year had some trouble
   with 32mb of RAM that could cause problems like this. I have 64mb
   and mine seems fine; I think the magic date was some time in September.
   I have my 166 overclocked to 180.
  
  All K6 built before week 30 have this problem.
 what sort of id numbers are those that have been made before week 30? I
 have two K6 233 MHz. One of them fails the bug test the other one passes.
 the passing chip is on a 64MB and the failing ine is on the 128MB system.
 They both have the same id number: C9738BPOW.
^^
Yours were made in the 38th week of 1997.

Check memory timings.  Slow the memory down.  Take out half the memory.
Try disabling caches.  Do one thing at a time until you discover what
the problem is.  My guess is that your memory settings are too aggressive
or you have bad memory or cache.


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Re: no write permissions for /tmp

1997-11-19 Thread Rick Hawkins
Bob asked,

 Did you perhaps restore from backup?  If for example you use
 tar, permissions on files created (including /tmp) are
 affected by umask.  Root's default umask is 022 which blocks
 out write permission for group and others.  Two ways to
 avoid this are: set umask to zero before restoring or use
 the -p option on tar.

While inside /tmp, I untarred netscape.  could this have done?  /tmp had
permissions of 751, which i've changed to 1777 which seems to help. hmm,
and theowners and group were 888 and 999, which i've changed back to
root.

rick


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100Mb networking

1997-11-19 Thread RedHat Linux User

I have a news machine that I am trying to put a KNE100 kingston network
card into. however when i try the card is recodnized and ifconfig works
but all the traffic goes to the lo device.  How do I fix this ?

I tryed the tulip.c 0.79

thanks!


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Re: ncurses3.4

1997-11-19 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 19-Nov-97 skrifar Scott Ellis:
 
 Yep, it's a bug in xaw3d.  Not exactly making your system unusable, since
 it is easilly fixed.
 

  Nor was I saying that it was unusable...

  I was saying, that if one intends to upgrade to a libc6 system, one needs
to upgrade the entire base system.  Purgeing the old libc5 stuff... if you
don't, you may very well end up in a situation where your system becomes
unusable... and if it does, that *that* was the problem... conflict between
the two libraries.


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Re: ncurses3.4

1997-11-19 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 19-Nov-97 skrifar Philippe Troin:
 
 Change the network: line of /etc/nsswitch.conf from files dns to files.
 That should make it.
 

  Now this is what I call a useful pointer!

  Thanks!, that did the trick... thanks a million!


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problems with ioptions or ipppd.ippp0

1997-11-19 Thread Iztok Umek
Hello!

I have problem nagotiating protocol it seems. Looks like I get
autenticated with PAP but not nagotiating IPCP (what I gathered from cisco
log on other side).

My ioptions or ipppd.ippp0 looks like:

debug
user username
require-pap
my-ip-num:cisco-ip-num
netmask 255.255.255.0
mru 1500

What can I do with ipppd?

Regards,
Iztok

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Re: Can I use Samba with dial-up?

1997-11-19 Thread Ranty
I don't know exactly about dial-up with a modem conections, but I have
conected the abomination with my linux box through a serial cable making it
think it was a modem via dial-up, and it does use standard, yes I am saying
standard PPP, I made de conexion with pppd on the linux side, and it worked.
Also without samba I could use all linux services from W95 (ftp,
telnet, ping... well I didn't try anything else).
Using samba I could share printers and files with W95.
I am sending my specific options file for that conection.
I would say it uses PAP, I mean, my Internet Server uses PAP and before 
linux I used W95 to conect via dial-up.
There is something else, I had to use +ua insted of user option with
pppd to make linux conect to my Internet Server, maybe you have the same
problem.

As far as I know, and I am no expert, you should be able to telnet and ftp and
all with no samba.

Hoping to be helpful
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PS:If you need to do some testing this W95 as a linux Client, tell me; I will do
the testing and send you the logs or whatever.



On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Oliver Elphick wrote:

 I have to connect to a client through their Win/NT network to get to their
 Unix machine.  They want me to use Dial-Up Adapter from Win95, but this means 
 that I have to drop all other useful work while I boot up that abomination.
 I can't make it work anyway, and as usual with MS stuff I can't find out
 what is going on.
 
 Can I use Samba to dial out on a modem and connect to their network?  I can
 see how to use Samba across a network, but not how to use it with a direct
 dial-up connection. 
 
 Since I actually want to talk to a Unix machine, can I do without Samba 
 altogether?
 
 Does MS Dial-up Adapter use ppp?
 If so, what kind of negotiation does it do? (I'm sure the customer won't
 know.)
 Is it possible to telnet through such a connection to the network beyond?
 
 
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# If you need to set up multiple serial lines then copy
# this file to
# options.ttyname for each tty with a modem on it.
#
# The options.tty file will assign an IP address to each PPP connection
# as it comes up. They must all be distinct!
#
# Example:
# options.ttyS1 for com2 under DOS.
#
# Edit the following line so that the first IP address
# mentioned is the ip address of the serial port while the second
# is the IP address of your host
#
# I usually use the convention hell + dash + last 2 character of
# the ttyname to refer to serial ports.
# For example servername_s1 for ttyS1 on server servername

hell:hell_s1
auth
115200 
#connect 'chat CLIENT CLIENTSERVER ' # this was for using W95's Direct Cable 
Conection
persist 
lock
 


Re: screen problems

1997-11-19 Thread Ranty

Well, I think someone gave you the solution allready but for the sake of
knowledge:
stty sane   #this may helps fix the terminal.
Ctrl-L  #usualy redraws any program's screen. 

On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Paul wrote:

 Hi everybody, I'm having trouble with console #1 ctrlaltF1.  when I
 do an ls command the rows are not the same down the column.  I know there
 is a way to redraw the screen but i forgot how.
 Can sombody help me.
 Paul
 
 
 
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Re: TkSTEP...anyone done it?

1997-11-19 Thread Ranty
Well, it does exist a deb package, it's in the unstable(hamm) distribution, you
need to have installed the older version of libc5, the one which came with the
oficcial debian cd's so that it does not conflict with libc6 which you will have
to install to have the TkSTEP  package installed and happlily configured.

On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Andrew Akins wrote:

 Now that my system is up and running stable, I thought I'd mess around
 with it :)
 
 I'm interested in installing TkSTEP. I've got Tk4.1 and Tk4.2 installed
 using the standard debian packages. I was wondering if anyone out there
 in debian-land has installed TkSTEP. And if so, what steps are involved?
 There doesn't seem to be a TkSTEP package, so I'm assuming I gotta do
 this by hand. 
 
 Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: video cards

1997-11-19 Thread Ben Pfaff
Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Right now I'm thinking about the Matrox Millennium II (8 meg)..

Good choice.

 Are there
 any other cards which have better proformence?

Not right now.  Matrox cards are (I am told) the fastest under
XFree86.

and how well are these cards supported under Linux/X?

Right now the Millennium II is supported as a Millennium I.  In the
future it will be even faster.
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Re: how to reduce colors used by netscape?

1997-11-19 Thread Ranty
if your graphics card is not capable or more than 256 colors don't
bother to keep reading.

I don't know where that configuration is, but there is another
solution,you can start the X server on 15,16,24 or 32 bits so there will be more
than enoght colors for all your aplications.
startx -- -bpp 15
startx -- -bpp 16
.
.
.

or if you use xdm you should coment out the local server line in
/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers and with xdm loaded:
X -query localhost -bpp 15
X -query localhost -bpp 16
.
.
.

Hoping to be helpful
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On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, E Papantoniou wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I am using a program that requires several colors available to operate
 ptoperly. For example, if netscape is open and I use the other program,
 whenever I enter its window with the mouse pointer, all the colors outside
 that window change.
 
 I have read that to correct the problem I must reduce the colors used by
 netscape...does anybody know in which file are these defined?
 
 thanks
 
 Manos
 
 
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Re: 100Mb networking

1997-11-19 Thread Ben Pfaff
RedHat Linux User [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I have a news machine that I am trying to put a KNE100 kingston network
 card into. however when i try the card is recodnized and ifconfig works
 but all the traffic goes to the lo device.  How do I fix this ?
 
 I tryed the tulip.c 0.79

Have you set up routing?  See the manpage for `route'.
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hello?

1997-11-19 Thread dpk
I haven't received any mail from the list in awhile...
Is anyone still alive?

Thanks,
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Re: Configuring dftp to get hamm

1997-11-19 Thread Brian M. Rectanus
As stated in the libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO:
When you run dselect, select access from the menu and anser the questions as
follows:

ftp site: ftp.debian.org

debian directory: /debian

dist. to get:
 dists/unstable/main dists/unstable/non-free dists/unstable/contrib

This should fix the prob...

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Re: How to use dpkg -b ??

1997-11-19 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
Debian List wrote:
 
 Ok I tried the dpkg-source -x and here's the error I got:
 dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./mgetty_1.1.8.orig.tar.gz' contains
 object (mgetty-1.1.8/README.1st) not in expected directory
 (mgetty-1.1.8.orig)

This version of mgetty is in hamm, which needs an upgraded dpkg to
unpack correctly (it's in project/experimental, AFAIK).


At this point you're anyway at half way; just do:

cd mgetty-1.1.8
zcat ../mgetty_1.1.8*diff.gz | patch -p0 -

and you're done (maybe with some old file as file.orig)


 
  dpkg-buildpackage will automagically generate a diff from the
  original package source.
 
   If I make changes to the original source, wouldn't that
   invalidate the diff file?
 

Yes, it will overwrite the files with the old version number.
You have to change the version number (first line in file
debian/changelog). If you have debmake installed simply issue 

dch -n

and you'll be editing that file _after_ the version change.
Exit the editor saving the changes and issue dpkg-buildpackage or its
wrapper   build -rsudo  (you need privileges to do build a package)
pgp is needed only to sign the changes and dsc files. .deb will be OK
even if you'll have an error for pgp.
You'll see on the output:
dpkg --build debian/tmp ..
dpkg-deb: building package `mgetty' in `../mgetty_1.1.8-?_i386.deb'.


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[no subject]

1997-11-19 Thread darren morin
As it is getting very late for me here, I have a question,  Since I'm a
newbie, (no stones, please) I have followed the instructions using the DOS
rawrite-2 tool, constructed all seven floppy images needed.  My question
involves installing the SONY CDU31A.

I have the Debian Linux edition CDRom from the boot! magazine (Nov. '97)
and I constructed my disks using the DOS rawrite-2 tool, and everything is
fine there.  However, since I'm a newbie, my question is regarding in the
CD Rom installation.  I have a SONY CDU31-A, and the prompt comes up during
installation asking me for a command line argument.  What?!?!  What is
it? (I have the port addresses in my Sound Blaster 16 manual, if that's
what its talking about). What do I do with it?  I type in the numbers for
IRQ and whatever, and it starts looking for itand never stops, forcing
me to CTRLALTDEL and having to start all over again.  PLEASE HELP!!!
I've tried everything I know, just as long as I don't get another RTFM
again (I printed out the Debian Linux Installation and getting started
manual by Boris Beletsky, by the way). Im following along, but I've tried 8
times just to get this thing going and as far as I have gotten is up to
install CDRom inteface from the menu.

P.S.  Just in case something else goes wrong, I'm letting you know I bought
Partition Magic so I could split my WIN 95 and Linux up (if I ever get it
going...).
Sincerely, [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-(
   

  


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Installation SONY CD-ROM

1997-11-19 Thread darren morin
As it is getting very late for me here, I have a question,  Since I'm a
newbie, (no stones, please) I have followed the instructions using the DOS
rawrite-2 tool, constructed all seven floppy images needed.  My question
involves installing the SONY CDU31A.

I have the Debian Linux edition CDRom from the boot! magazine (Nov. '97)
and I constructed my disks using the DOS rawrite-2 tool, and everything is
fine there.  However, since I'm a newbie, my question is regarding in the
CD Rom installation.  I have a SONY CDU31-A, and the prompt comes up during
installation asking me for a command line argument.  What?!?!  What is
it? (I have the port addresses in my Sound Blaster 16 manual, if that's
what its talking about). What do I do with it?  I type in the numbers for
IRQ and whatever, and it starts looking for itand never stops, forcing
me to CTRLALTDEL and having to start all over again.  PLEASE HELP!!!
I've tried everything I know, just as long as I don't get another RTFM
again (I printed out the Debian Linux Installation and getting started
manual by Boris Beletsky, by the way). Im following along, but I've tried 8
times just to get this thing going and as far as I have gotten is up to
install CDRom inteface from the menu.

P.S.  Just in case something else goes wrong, I'm letting you know I bought
Partition Magic so I could split my WIN 95 and Linux up (if I ever get it
going...).
Sincerely, [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-(
   

  


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Re: sl0: transmit timeout, bad line quality?

1997-11-19 Thread Kingsley G. Morse Jr.
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote:

   Now, I can use pppd to manually put up my network... but diald (which
   I normally use) doesn't work, it will fail with 'sl0: transmit
   timeout, bad line quality?'...

I just finished debugging it on my box. It's a known bug. See 

  http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/14/14207.html

Thanks,
Kingsley


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smail

1997-11-19 Thread Gerald Livingston
OK -- I'm ready to properly configure smail on my single user dynamic 
ip system.

   Who knows where the best FAQ for that is?  Big thing is, I need to 
manage mail accounts from several different addresses. ([EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]).  I'll probably use procmail to 
separate them after I pull them in.

   I need all OUTGOING mail to say [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   My systems current name is force-1.  Naturally, that name means 
nothing when I log on as my ISP assigns a name to whatever port I 
connect to.  

  If I can find a sucker -- errr -- nice person to host for me, would 
it be possible for me to set up a MX on someone's system such as 
force-1.xxx.com and have mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] be 
held on the host system until it is somehow recognized that I am 
online so SMTP delivery to smail can occur?

Many questions -- enough for now.

TIA
Gerald V. Livingston II

'69 Sedan -- no name yet -- owned  2 years
driven 2 months

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Re: Has anyone bought the debian book and cds?

1997-11-19 Thread Shaul Karl.
Is there a postscript version of the book ?
And if not, is there an easy way to convert the html file to a nicely 
formatted postscript file ?




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Re: compile problems on new k6

1997-11-19 Thread Rick Hawkins

Olivier THaran wrote,


  tells me that the x86 has no ret function.

  hmm, as i write this, the next one was a sig11.  maybe i'm not coooled
  enough to run this 166 at 200 (el-cheapo fan that came with it).

 It clearly means that, if you overclocked your K6, the hardware is so
 stressed during a kernel compilation that it does not stand it -- no
 kidding. Go to http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ to have a really good
 explanation of what your problem could be.

Yep, it was heat.  It would do a kernel compile at 2.5*66=166 without a
problem, but not at 200.

I pulled the sdram for 32mb of cheap fpm, and now it runs at 83.  It
would run indefinitely at 166, but with lots of sig11's.  I put another
fan in the front of the case, got thermal compound, and it's real happy
at 210 (2.5*83).  Until I put the case on . . . But this is just the
cheap fan that came with it; i'm going to shell out for a good
fan/heatsink.  And I have another fan for the top of the case' i'm still
deciding whether to put it up top in the mounts, or to run a rack to
have it blow into the lower half of the tower.

rick


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Re: Has anyone bought the debian book and cds?

1997-11-19 Thread Will Lowe
On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Shaul Karl. wrote:

 Is there a postscript version of the book ?
 And if not, is there an easy way to convert the html file to a nicely 
 formatted postscript file ?

Try html2latex.  Never used it myself,  but that's what it's for.

Will


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