Re: PGP

1997-12-05 Thread Curt Howland
Pete Harlan wrote:
 
  I notice that MIT now has a Linux build for PGP5.0
  US version. I know that there is a PGP Debian package
 
 Does anyone know what's up with Phil, anyway?  How can he, of all
 people, expect anyone to trust cryptography without source?
 
 Sorry for the off-topic.  I hope nobody bothers to package this up for
 Debian unless source is released.  There, now it's on-topic.
 
 And please correct me if source for 5.0 is available...
 
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The MIT page has a copy of the signatures for the
Windows and Mac binaries, nothing for the Linux
binary. I'm sure a quick note to the maintainer
will aleviate that lack.

Unfortunately, Phil is not really involved with the
MIT distribution, nor the International version which
the German (at least) Debian site has a package for.
Now that PGP.com has been purchased by another 
company in which RSA Inc is a major player, there is
no telling how long it will be before there is no
way to trust the commercial versions at all.

Hey, isn't this exactly why we're running Linux?
I think some cooperation 'twixt Debian and MIT is
in order. If I knew anything about compiling packages,
I'd do it.

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Re: Encrypting ISO9660 images?

1997-12-05 Thread Kevin Cheek
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 I know there has been a bit of discussion about encrypting
 filesystems under Debian.  From what I've seen, the ext2 filesystem
 can be encrypted with CFS.  But, my question is.. is there any good
 way of doing filesystem encryption for an ISO9660 image that is
 later burned to a CD-ROM?  Or if not ISO9660 some other filesystem
 that would be good for burning to a CD-ROM?

Well, cfs isn't really filesystem-dependant. You can create an
encrypted directory with cfs (cmkdir), put the data in it, make a cd
image of the encrypted directory (the raw encrypted directory, not the
mounted unencrypted version) using mkisofs (make sure to support long
file names with Rockridge extensions) and then burn the cd. The main
problem with this is that cfs appears to want all of the files in the
encrypted directory to be owned by the user that is accessing them and
it appears that cfs wants them to be r/w as well. Regardless of the
cause of the problem, the result is that the only way I have found to
make and read a cfs directory on a cd is to make all of the files
owned by root (I used the -r option of mkisofs) and then access the cd
only as root. There may be other work-arounds, but that's the first
thing that worked for me. If you try to look at the encrypted
directory on the cd as any user other than root (even when the files
are owned by that user), you get some kind of permission denied
message.

I think that this problem is mentioned somewhere in the docs for cfs,
but I haven't heard about any fixes for the problem.

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Re: PGP

1997-12-05 Thread Curt Howland
Addendum: They DO have the PGP signature for the Linux
binary. I agree that the source should be made available
too

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Where is font -Adobe-Helvetica-Bold-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*?

1997-12-05 Thread Mark Phillips

When I try to run either fr (filerunner) or tkman, it comes up with
similar messages, both complaining about the lack of the font:

-Adobe-Helvetica-Bold-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*

It works fine on my machine at home, and as far as I can tell, they both
have the same fonts installed.  So, what fonts need to be installed, or
what isn't configured properly?

Thanks,

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Re: Removing libc4

1997-12-05 Thread ioannis

  % dpkg --no-act -r  libc4

  Will not remove anything, but will warn you if other packages depend on it.


On Wed, Dec 03, 1997 at 11:32:03PM -0500, James Dietrich wrote:
 
 I have libc4 installed on my Debian system (running the latest from
 unstable).  How can I find out if any programs depend on libc4, so that I
 can remove it if it isn't needed?  Or is there a good reason to keep it?
 
 Thanks.
 
 James
 
 
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Re: Mail problem - smail

1997-12-05 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Daniel Martin wrote:

 Well, my conclusion is that you've done something to the basic smail
 satellite option - specifically, your /etc/smail/directors file has
 something in it besides the smartuser director.  What you appended of your
 configuration isn't enough to tell.  (It's the /etc/smail/directors file 
 that controls local mail delivery)  By default, when using the satellite
 option, /etc/smail/directors is set up so that smail will not deliver any
 local mail.  (and this precludes using fetchmail to store mail locally)
 
You are right. I rerun smailconfig and option 3 (Satellite) was unfamiliar
to me, option 1 (Internet site) looked like the questions I have answered
during smail setup.

So:USE OPTION 1, DON'T USE OPTION 3

I am sorry for causing that much confusion. I guess in the year which
passed between now and my smailconfig, I have lost too much brain due to
the good beer you get here in germany :-)

So I hope atleast somebody found my fetchmailrc usefull. Don't forget to
check for localhost in the hostnames line in /etc/smail/config if you want
to take it as a template for your own setup.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: Mail problem - smail

1997-12-05 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Martin Bialasinski wrote:

 As long as the MX wasn't set up, I got a reply from the mailsystem (DNS
 lookup failed for internet-treff.uni-koeln.de) if I tried to send mail
 from the system. The same for mails to the system using the MX address
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  
 
This just flashed into my mind after sending this mail:

I have chosen the option  forward all outbound mail to the smarthost, so
the message was from sendmail on the smarthost.

Ciao,
Martin


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HTTP background tool

1997-12-05 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Hi,

  I was wondering if anyone knew of a tool, that will basically
connect to a site through port 80, using HTTP and download a document
in the background?

  Some sites are very slow, and they only provide HTTP access to the
information they provide... while it would be nice to be able to
download some links with a command line tool.

  Any links or hints are appreciated.


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Re: Problems compiling perl 5.004.04 - ld: cannot open -lnsl

1997-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:
 I am trying to compile perl 5.004.04 and am having problems.  My
 compiler is unable to locate -lnsl (for some reason).  But I'm sure that
 the reqd library is in /lib

The linker is looking for /usr/lib/libnsl.so.  This is a symbolic link to
/usr/lib/libnsl.so.1.  It's created when you install libc5-dev. Have you
done so?


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Re: HTTP background tool

1997-12-05 Thread Joey Hess
Orn E. Hansen wrote:
   I was wondering if anyone knew of a tool, that will basically
 connect to a site through port 80, using HTTP and download a document
 in the background?
 
   Some sites are very slow, and they only provide HTTP access to the
 information they provide... while it would be nice to be able to
 download some links with a command line tool.
 
   Any links or hints are appreciated.

Use wget and background it.

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Re: Philosophical question

1997-12-05 Thread Wintermute
Larry G. Gariepy Jr. wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I guess this doesn't pertain specifically to Debian, but I have a
 philosophical question about software upgrades, and I just thought I would 
 take
 a poll to see what Joe Debian User (or Jane Debian-User) thinks...
 
 So I bought a new machine in October, and from the outset I wanted to run
 Linux on it.  After asking a friend what brand to use, he suggested Debian.  
 In
 fact, we basically downloaded his setup onto my machine.  So now that I
 basically have the system up and running the way I want it (modulo getting the
 printer pass-through feature working on the ZIP drive), I thought I would ask
 how often I should look to upgrade things like the kernel and libc libraries
 and such.  I am not shy about trying new things, but once I have put a lot of
 effort into something and have it running nicely, I tend to be sluggish about
 rocking the boat, and upgrading to keep up with the times...(when I was a kid,
 we didn't even HAVE xemacs, we used all those CNTRL commands... :)  )
 
 I hope I don't sound heretical:  I imagine that a lot of people like Linux for
 the fact that there is something new to try every week or two. :) (or more
 often?)  But practically, how often do people think it is worth the trouble to
 upgrade major software components?  Every six months?  Every year?
 
 Thanks in advance for your (humble) opinions :)
 Larry Gariepy
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 Disclaimer:  The views expressed in my opinions are not necessarily my own.
 
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There is no correct answer to this question.  There are wrong ones
however.  Installing packages (updates) simply because they're newer is
not the right strategy, nor is installing simply on the basis of new
features.  The steps I normally take go something like :

1. Will it be as secure or more secure than what I am using now?
2. Will it increase performance?
3. Does it expand the feature list of the current software?
4. Is this a major version number update?

Using these 4 rules I can usually decide whether or not to upgrade. 
Normally if question one proves to be false I stop right there.  In some
cases there really is no question one, and so it becomes a performance
and feature issue.  Number four is tricky, I've found that the best
strategy is to stay away from major version changes.  They tend to mark
the period for bug testing, and usually most problems and glitches arise
here.  Going with the previous version in this case tends to be a good
thing.

Hope that helps somewhat... sorry that I couldn't give you a time frame,
but these rules generally help me to do the right thing.


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Re: What I do now?

1997-12-05 Thread Wintermute
Dana Epp wrote:
 
 Ya... its one of those days, and the subject pretty well sums it up.
 
 I forced xlib6g over xlib6, so I could install the Gimp package. I later
 rebooted, and now I get this everytime I do a startx..
 
 xauth: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6'
 xinit: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6'
 
 Now, this does exist. Its located in /usr/X11R6/lib so I can't figure why
 it can't load. Anyone know what I should do to fix this.. or atleast
 further debug it? I don't wanna go throw xlib6 back, cuz now xv, gimp etc
 work where they didn't want to before.
 
 Any help would be much appreciated.
 

This can result from a few things.

1. The library is not in ld.so.conf or ld.so.cache and so the dynamic
linker doesn't know it exists.
2. Most libraries have several sym-links pointing to them.  In this
case, this symlink no longer points at a valid library.


To test solution one (as root) type 'ldconfig -v | grep libXmu'.  If it
comes up, then it IS listed in the ld.so.conf file.

Step two. Change to the directory in which the libXmu library is
supposed to reside.  Now type 'ls -l libXmu*' and check to make sure
that the sym-links that show up are indeed pointing to a valid (read
'existing') library (and not off into outer space).

If you have verified both of these things, then it may be a problem with
the versions of xinit and xauth.  They may not be able to handle the new
library version, and there may be updated versions of these programs for
use with xlib6g.  These two program would be found in the 'xbase'
package, look for that first.

Hope this helps.


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Re: Apache web editting

1997-12-05 Thread Wintermute
Randy Edwards wrote:
 
 What techniques do folks use for editting web pages?  I use
 Netscape's Composer for editting and would like to let a couple of users
 edit the files under /var/www.
 
I've thought about making /var/www group writeable (right now it's
 only group read and executable), but I was worried that may introduce a
 security breach.  Right now I have users edit the files and then
 manually copy them myself, but that's a pain.  Any suggestions on what
 option would be best for this?
 


Sure.  Just create a new group called (for-instance) 'webguys', and add
those users to it.  Then from inside the /var directory type 'chown -R
root.webguys www'.

If this is not your question then let me get fuzzy on ya.  There is no
better way to secure a web document heirarchy than to create special
directories underneath the root directory owned by the user you wish to
have permission to rwx there (make sure you chown the directory to that
user or else even though anything that's in there will belong to them,
they may not have the ability to add more).

I think the basic issue comes down to one of trust.  If you can trust a
user enough to add him to a general group of Web Jockeys allowed to
rwx in the /var/www directory, do so.  If not, try the second option. 
If it is NOT essential for them to store their files there at all, just
have them put everything in a 'public-html' directory off of their home
directories, and access them in the url with
'http://(yourhost)/~(username)/'.  Apache already has a provision for
this.

Hope this helps.
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Re: emacs and .Xdefaults

1997-12-05 Thread Wintermute
Kirk Hilliard wrote:
 
 Last week I issued a plea for help:
  I just made a new installation of bo, and emacs no longer seems to
  read my ~/.Xdefaults file like it used to in rex.
 
 And Wintermute [EMAIL PROTECTED] came to the rescue:
  Try this..
 
  xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults
 
 That does the job!
 
 Since it only works for the current X session, I added it to my
 ~/.xsession file and all is fine.  Still, I did not have to do this in
 rex.  Is this change a bug or a feature?
 

Actually this is a feature.  You may find some helpful files in the
/etc/X11 directory that hint at this.  Particularly the one called
/etc/X11/config.  This file tells another configuration file (one that
actually sets up the default environment) whether or not to allow things
such as User Resources, User Xsession files, and the like to be included
at start time, or be ignored.  This seems to be a useless feature since
even with XDM running, a user can execute the commands necessary to
alter their environment after X has started through an XTERM.  The only
thing it might do is to enforce only a particular type of window
manager.
The config file should be changed to include the following lines:

allow-user-resources
allow-user-modmap
allow-user-xsession 

If you are running XDM by default you will need to change to a free
virtual terminal (CNTRL-ALT-F1), and stop the XDM process by running
'/etc/init.d/xdm stop' as root, and then restart it with
'/etc/init.d/xdm start'.  Don't forget to change back to the virtual
terminal again (CNTRL-ALT-F1) and log out.

User resources will then be loaded from .Xdefaults in their home
directory, also if one exists, it will attempt to execute a users
.xsession and .xmodmap files.  The .xsession determines which commands
will set up the environment for the session, and what window manager it
should start.  The .xmodmap file will contain keymapping for that
particular session.

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RE: Apache web editting

1997-12-05 Thread Ralph Winslow

On 04-Dec-97 Randy Edwards wrote:
What techniques do folks use for editting web pages?  I use
Netscape's Composer for editting and would like to let a couple of users
edit the files under /var/www.

I like vi for editing my web pages. I'm sure there are lots of people
who prefer emacs/xemacs, and there are editors in Netscape and that
other popular browser.  As long as www has appropriate permissions,
you should be OK.  You don't scan every web page that you install for
security breachs, do you?  So, you'll be no worse off anyway.

   I've thought about making /var/www group writeable (right now it's
only group read and executable), but I was worried that may introduce a
security breach.  Right now I have users edit the files and then
manually copy them myself, but that's a pain.  Any suggestions on what
option would be best for this?

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RE: HTTP background tool

1997-12-05 Thread Ralph Winslow

On 05-Dec-97 Orn E. Hansen wrote:

Hi,

  I was wondering if anyone knew of a tool, that will basically
connect to a site through port 80, using HTTP and download a document
in the background?

perl certainly provides all you need.  You could easily specify a URL
and have a perl program download its file and everything it links to and
everything its links link to. If you start with yahoo, and have infinite
disk resources...

  Some sites are very slow, and they only provide HTTP access to the
information they provide... while it would be nice to be able to
download some links with a command line tool.

  Any links or hints are appreciated.


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mount trouble with MSDOS fs

1997-12-05 Thread Charles Read
A while back, I reported that

# mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt

was not working.  Someone said that
running Norton Disk Doctor on /dev/hda1 (C:)
from within Win95 resolved a similar problem.

So I ran Norton Disk Doctor on /dev/hda1.  
It corrected a minor problem, but the mount
command *still* does not work within Linux.

Why?

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Re: PGP

1997-12-05 Thread Joel Klecker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Regarding Re: PGP of 03:37 PM -0800 1997-12-04, Pete Harlan wrote:
Sorry for the off-topic.  I hope nobody bothers to package this up for
Debian unless source is released.  There, now it's on-topic.

And please correct me if source for 5.0 is available...

It is available, just only in book form. This is a cover your ass move by
PGP as cryptographic code can be legally exported from the US if it is not
machine readable.

The source at http://www.pgpi.com/ is almost exactly the same as the
source used to build the US version at the MIT site, the only difference
is that the US version uses RSAREF, to avoid the patent issues.
I have seen versions of PGP 2.6.3i that were legal in the US, because they
were compiled with RSAREF instead of MPILIB.
It must be possible to do this with the PGP 5 code base as well.

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BS in rxvt+ncurses

1997-12-05 Thread Marcelo E . Magallón
Hi,

I've already asked this, and I'm sure someone must be having the
same problem...

No matter how I set the backspace in X11, it won't work under rxvt +
some ncurses program, for example, pine. At some point the entry in
/etc/terminfo/r/rxvt was changed, and the backspace stopped working. The
change isn't documented in the Debian changelog, it just says Munged
rxvt entry a bit more, and also makes reference to an update to the
terminfo database...  

xterm does work, and infocmp says:

comparing rxvt to xterm.
comparing booleans.
comparing numbers.
colors: -1:8.
pairs: -1:64.
comparing strings.
hpa: NULL, '\E[%i%p1%dG'.
kend: '\E[4~', '\E[F'.
khome: '\E[1~', '\E[H'.
kmous: NULL, '\E[M'.
vpa: NULL, '\E[%i%p1%dd'.

I don't see anything relevant here. There are far more differences
between the entry that worked and the one that doesn't.

I have:

ii  ncurses-base1.9.9g-6
ii  rxvt2.20-8

The only thing I see that may be relevant is that xterm does use
libncurses and rxvt doesn't. I don't think rxvt is broken... it worked
before... the problem is, I don't know before what. Also, I don't want
to blindy move the old entry over the new one, because I see there are
other differences between them and some of them are indeed good. 

Thank you very much in advance (I mean it, this is getting annoying)


Marcelo Magallón


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hostname

1997-12-05 Thread Greg Green
I am currently working just fine on my LAN, however, I need to change my
host name only.
What files would I modify to do so?  I know I need to change the
/etc/hosts, but I do knot know
what others need to be changed.  Any input would be helpful.

Thanks


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Re: lilo to prepare new hd on floppyless system

1997-12-05 Thread Sen Nagata
does this help?

-sen

http://www.redhat.com/linux-info/ldp/HOWTO/mini/LILO-4.html

at some point around Thu, 04 Dec 1997 16:48:57 +0600
Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned:

 My new drive came, and i'm trying to do a fresh install, as some stuff got 
 tossed in strange places a few months ago.
 
 I've already found that base-files.deb won't install onto a raw file system, 
 so I have the .tgz untarring at the moment (gee, this maxtor is louder than i 
 expected).  ANd the only .tgz I could find wa sin bo, which I had to download 
 4 times--though i think it was two different files.. hmm, i still get the 
 same 
 message that no such file or directory.
 
 anyway, the problem is going to be lilo.  I don't have a floppy (one arrives 
 in a few days) from which to boot.  I need to tell it to install lilo onto 
 /dev/hdc, but write that this is /dev/hda, and that it should take the image 
 at /dev/hda1/vmlinuz, with a root of /dev/hdc3.
 
 Ive found the man page, but it's not clear as to exactly what is affected by 
 changing the root--it looks like if i try to put it onto /dev/hdc, it will 
 then try to boot from there, even after i move it to the  primary controller. 
  
 ANd I only get one shot at this, or i have to wait until the new floppy 
 arrives to use the system at all.
 
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life after fips?

1997-12-05 Thread Richard Sevenich
Is there an free version of some successor to fips that can do a
nondestructive repartition of hard drive that is currently devoted
to FAT32? I don't think fips evolved to this point and I could use
some input before I purchase something like PartitionMagic.
Regards, Richard


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Re: [Not a dumb Question!] [Q] Standard way to force libc5-compat?

1997-12-05 Thread Joey Hess
Benjamin Redelings I wrote:
  Both of these are available as debian installer packages, you know.
   Actually, I knew there was one for netscape, but I couldn't find
 realplayer...

It's still stuck in incoming.

   According to the documentation for the dynamic linker, this only works
 if (I think) the full version names of the libraries are built in,
 usually by explicitly specifying all the libraries on the command line
 at compile time with the -l switch.

Well, I don't know of any other way to link in libraries except via the -l
switch, like -lncurses, or whatever.

   However,many binaries, including ALL the non-debian ones don't do
 this.  As a result I get the wrong results (see footnote [1])
   2)  [Yay!] Is there some tool that will ALTER a binary and insert the
 necessary version info?  How was the debain version of netscape
 generated?

AFIAK, the debian version of netscape isn't modified at all. It's simply
unpacked out of the tar file for netscape. I know that the rvplayer binary
isn't modified at all by the debian rvplayer installer package (I maintain
it), and look at it:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ldd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rvplayer/rvplayer 
libXmu.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6 (0x4000c000)
libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 (0x4001e000)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6 (0x4006)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4006b000)
libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40109000)
libg++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libg++.so.27 (0x4010c000)
libstdc++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libstdc++.so.27 (0x40144000)
libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x40175000)
libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4017e000)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libSM.so.6 (0x4023a000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 (0x40243000)

I have to wonder if there is perhaps something misconfigured on your
system..

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Ink Jet Printers

1997-12-05 Thread Jess Stryker
HP 694c DeskJet

Epson Stylus Color 600

These printers aren't listed as either compatible
or non-compatible in the hardware compatibility
HOWTO.Is anyone using either of these printers
or know if they work with Debian?

The HP uses HP PCL level 3 language.
The Epson uses ESC/P2 language.

Thanks for your help!

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Re: mount trouble with MSDOS fs

1997-12-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Dec 04, 1997 at 09:00:21PM -0600, Charles Read wrote:
 A while back, I reported that
 # mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt
 
 was not working.  Someone said that
 running Norton Disk Doctor on /dev/hda1 (C:)
 from within Win95 resolved a similar problem.
 
 So I ran Norton Disk Doctor on /dev/hda1.  
 It corrected a minor problem, but the mount
 command *still* does not work within Linux.

No kernel support? You need to have the fat and msdos modules installed,
or compiled in. (fat is a base for both msdos and vfat). What's the error
message you're getting?


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Re: Get this, Gateway2000's 'wonderful' tech support

1997-12-05 Thread richard
Allen Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I wrote a e-mail to gateway2000's tech support team asking them if Linux
 was compatible with my Promise Ultra 33 here is an EXACT copy of what was
 returned:
 
 Hello Allen,
 
 Thanks for your message. Unfortunatly, Linus has not been tested on any
 system that Gateway sells and therefore we off no support for that
 operating system. If the system works in the original operating system
 that we shipped, then that is what we support.
 Sorry for the inconvience,
 
 
 
 Notice the 'Linus' ?? What the h*ll was he somking? Crack?

Get real - frontline support will be trained to understand what the
majority of their users need or want.  Go off the beaten track - and
Linux has a way to go yet before it is a threat to the Windows market
share! - and you'll be on your own, at least with the majority of
vendors.

I'm sure there are exceptions, if anyone wanted to be constructive
they could list them here.


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Re: Cron and find

1997-12-05 Thread Kevin Dalley
As long as nfs is included in PRUNEFS in /etc/find.conf, the nfs mount 
points should be excluded.  However, I have heard of a few instances
of complaints.  I tested it again last night, with findutils-4.1-25,
and it worked for me.  If you experience difficulty, please email me.

Kirk Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I often have some nfs filesystems mounted on my machine and whenever cron
  runs updatedb I end up with a huge mail listing each file on the nfs
  filesystems saying permission denied. Is there a way to stop this message
  without unmounting the filesystems?
 
 Hi G'razel!
 
 Have you tried adding the NFS mount point to PRUNEPATHS in
 /etc/updatedb.conf?  Check out updatedb(1).
 



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Dreamware: encrypted tcpip?

1997-12-05 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
I was thinking that I want my wan links to be encrypted. Ssh would not be
enough, as nfs or ftp/rcp also need to be encrypted. I was wondering if
there was anything such as this in the ppp code or ip tunneling code?

Thanks,

P.S. I love my new 'unSTABLE' debian box. Sweet. Very Sweet. Now for the
lappie :)

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Re: Ink Jet Printers

1997-12-05 Thread bleach
Jess I have an HP OfficeJet Model 350.
I claims compatibility with HP DeskJet models: 500, 510,  520 and
uses PCL level 3

best,
bill


On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Jess Stryker wrote:

 HP 694c DeskJet
 
 Epson Stylus Color 600
 
 These printers aren't listed as either compatible
 or non-compatible in the hardware compatibility
 HOWTO.Is anyone using either of these printers
 or know if they work with Debian?
 
 The HP uses HP PCL level 3 language.
 The Epson uses ESC/P2 language.
 
 Thanks for your help!
 
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ati tv tuner

1997-12-05 Thread Benoit Joly
hi all, i wanna know if there is a driver (beta, alpha...) for the tv
tuner, or in developpement??

i have this card and want to throw away my win95...

thanks in advances (and thanks for answers that i received for all my prob
in linux installation, now it's working good)

Benoit Joly
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Re: MAJOR PROBLEM!

1997-12-05 Thread Britton

  They stopped the poll when redhat 5 was released, when redhat had about 50
  to 100 more votes in the poll (1 or 2% more of the vote, in other words). 
  The 
  problem with that poll was, they basically stopped it when they felt like 
  it.
  If  they had stopped it a day earlier, debian would have won..
  
   If this poll represents the majority, it would seem that Debian has a
   large following that is not prone to advocacy as the Red Hat crowd
   while Slackware is a rather noisy minority.
  
  Yeah, that's sort of theimpression I got. You don't see a huge volume of 
  debian postings on usenet, but we basically tied redhat in the poll.
 We have a very active mailing list and that somehow reduces Debian posts
 in the general linux groups. I think Debian is gatting bigger all the time

This is indeed an unfortunate problem, both for Debian and for the Linux
community at large.  I have found debian-user to be one of the best places
to get answers to all kinds of questions, debian-specific or otherwise (I
have no problem with this: if someone with the good taste to run Debian
runs it on a Debian system, I will try to answer questions about it).  Is
there any central repository for archieves of all the different mailing
lists/newsgroups related to linux?  


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Re: Another X problem

1997-12-05 Thread Noel Yap
On Thu, 04 Dec 1997, Paul Rightly wrote:
 I successfully reinstalled Debian on my Thinkpad 365XD.
[...]
 Once I got a PCMCIA modem and got this laptop connected, I upgraded it to 
 the
 lastest in stable (this moved X from 3.2 to 3.3).  I cannot get X to work
 correctly now.  When I startx I see this screen but it is very garbled with 
 a
 lot of horizontal lines and noise.  I tried to correct it with a new 
 XF86Config,
 but that did not help.  The only thing that I tried that worked was 
 downgrading
 X back to 3.2.  Is there a way that I can successfully use X 3.3 on my laptop?

I have the same system.  Support for the ThinkPad 365XD by Xfree86 3.2
was never very good.  The upgrade to 3.3 broke this and many other
configurations as well I believe, since they quickly released the 3.3.1
fix.  This is the version that I'm using right now.  Only the unstable
distribution has 3.3.1, however, so if you want to take advantage of it,
you also need to make the dreaded libc5-libc6 transition.  It's not all
that painful, really; just follow Scott Ellis' *excellent* HOWTO, which
is posted here regularly.

If you're not quite ready to make the leap to libc6, you can grab the
3.3.1 SVGA server from ftp.xfree86.org and use that together with the
rest of the 3.3 packages in bo.  If you're reluctant to use a non-Debian
package, you could keep the 3.2 server but upgrade everything else to
3.3.  You'll have to gunzip the Xfonts if you do this, since the 3.2
Xserver only handles compress'd but not gzip'd fonts.

Good luck!

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Re: BS in rxvt+ncurses

1997-12-05 Thread Galen Hazelwood
I've been having all sorts of horrible troubles with rxvt.  Every time I
think I've got it working, something else goes wrong.

At the moment, the problem seems to be that under rxvt, ncurses
interprets backspace as KEY_DC, i.e. delete.  This is because hitting
backspace is sending ASCII 127, which is indeed delete.  If you want to
fix things quickly yourself, take the current rxvt entry, change kbs to
\177, and change kdch1 to \E[3~.  That should do it.

I'll have this fixed in ncurses 1.9.9g-7...sigh...

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Re: Ink Jet Printers

1997-12-05 Thread James A . Treacy
 HP 694c DeskJet
 
 Epson Stylus Color 600
 
 These printers aren't listed as either compatible
 or non-compatible in the hardware compatibility
 HOWTO.Is anyone using either of these printers
 or know if they work with Debian?
 
 The HP uses HP PCL level 3 language.
 The Epson uses ESC/P2 language.
 
Heh, I'm about to buy a printer too. Those are the same two I'm
considering. The Epson 800 isn't enough of an improvement to warrant an
extra $190 Canadian. I'll probably go with the Epson as I want to be able
to do at least 600x600 in color (HP 694C can only do 600x300 color).

Basically, the way printing works on non-postscript printers is you
use ghostscript to interpret the postscript and convert it into something
your printer can understand. Ghostscript knows both PCL 3 and ESC/P2.

I haven't figured out from the docs whether support for a language
means that all printers that use that language are supported.
I'm sure it means that you can get at least some functionality, but are
there other issues involved that may affect quality or what features
you can access?

One thing I read is that HP has better blacks than other brands. These
new Epsons are using new inks and I'm wondering whether there is any
improvement. I'm going to do some output comparison tomorrow.
As with computers, it's tempting to put off buying a new printer as
tomorrow's technology is so promising.

- Jay


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Re: PGP

1997-12-05 Thread Michel LESPINASSE
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Curt Howland wrote:

 I notice that MIT now has a Linux build for PGP5.0
 US version. I know that there is a PGP Debian package
 available internationally, but not on the US site.

 Anyone know if a U.S. PGP package for Debian will be
 created?

You can find both the us and the international versions of the PGP package
on nonus.debian.org

This is a pgp 2.6.3 package, and I'm not sure if pgp5 will ever be
packaged, because of some serious thrust problems. (pgp got bought by
some company which is pushing very hard towards key escrow schemes, I
heard)

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Re: MAJOR PROBLEM!

1997-12-05 Thread Sten Anderson
Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 runs it on a Debian system, I will try to answer questions about it).  Is
 there any central repository for archieves of all the different mailing
 lists/newsgroups related to linux?  

See:

http://www.ssc.com/linux/resources/lists.html

It is probably not complete, but is is a start.

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Re: Ink Jet Printers

1997-12-05 Thread Anthony Fok
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, James A.Treacy wrote:

  HP 694c DeskJet
  
  Epson Stylus Color 600

 Heh, I'm about to buy a printer too. Those are the same two I'm
 considering. The Epson 800 isn't enough of an improvement to warrant an
 extra $190 Canadian. I'll probably go with the Epson as I want to be able
 to do at least 600x600 in color (HP 694C can only do 600x300 color).

I'm using the EPSON Stylus COLOR 500 here happily.  :)

Ghostscript 5.03 comes with uniprint (?), the unified printer driver.
It supports EPSON Stylus COLOR 500, 600 and 800 very well.  :)

Anthony

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Re: Ink Jet Printers

1997-12-05 Thread Marco Pistore
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Jess Stryker wrote:
 HP 694c DeskJet
 

Hi,

i am very happy with my HP 694c.
I am using gs-aladdin 5.03 with the cdj550 driver 
to print ps and pdf files.

Ciao,

Marco



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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V97 #1095

1997-12-05 Thread XRD Lab
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preparing a minimal system

1997-12-05 Thread Sen Nagata
hi-

  i am attempting to install a system that has as small number of files
as possible (note: i am not necessarily trying to make an installation
that will fit on a floppy).  in addition, i would like to be able to
perform the preparation of hard drives for target machines on a machine
other than the target machine (e.g. do the preparation for a 486 machine
on a pentium 2 machine).

  the steps i've outlined are:
  
  1. identifying the target hardware
  2. identifying the necessary files and creating them if necessary
 (e.g. kernel compilation, device file creation, identifying
 necessary binaries, configuration files, shared libraries, etc.)
  3. locating these on a target storage device
  4. preparing the storage device so that it can boot - e.g. installing
 lilo on the storage device
  5. attaching the newly configured storage device to the target machine

  studying the booting process has taught me a fair bit about what files
may be necessary for a functional system.  i've been successful in
compiling a custom kernel (which i was able to use as part of a boot
floppy on the target system), but for the life of me, i just can't seem
to get my prepared media to boot on the target system :-(

  i am suspecting that my major difficulty is w/ getting lilo to install
an appropriate mbr onto my target storage device -- most of the
available lilo documentation seems to be tailored toward creating
(configuring?) [m]brs for the system that lilo (and an installation of
linux) is already on - probably the most common situation, but
unfortunately, not mine.

  i've looked at the lilo and lilo.conf man pages, /usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt,
the linux system administrator's guide, the bootdisk howto, the lilo
mini-howto, and some other resources, but so far, i haven't had much luck.

  i noticed that in the lilo mini-howto, the author describes a
procedure which sounds like it should work:

  http://www.redhat.com/linux-info/ldp/HOWTO/mini/LILO-4.html
  
  unfortunately, this didn't seem to work for me.

  any help would be greatly appreciated.

  -sen
  
p.s. i am running debian linux 1.3 and my secondary storage devices are
scsi hard drives and a magneto optic disk drive.


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Re: emacs and .Xdefaults

1997-12-05 Thread Gilbert Laycock
 Kirk == Kirk Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Kirk I just made a new installation of bo, and emacs no longer seems to
Kirk read my ~/.Xdefaults file like it used to in rex.

Shouldn't it be called ~/.Xresources ?

Personally I have the two filenames symbolic linked together, because
some X installations I use seem to like one and some like the other. 

Debian seems to only use .Xresources.

I have seen some installations of X that distinguish between the two
names, along the lines of ~/.Xdefaults will completely override the
system wide xrdb settings whereas ~/.Xresources will be merged with
the system ones. (Or was it the other way around?)

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Network Setting

1997-12-05 Thread Ana Silva
Hello...
I´ve been installing debian-linux in a machine. Everything went well,
but i don´t access network!
I think i need to create a device eth0 but i can´t! (Because when i run
/etc/init.d/network it says no such device )
Can someone help me ? (This is realy bugging me... :((( ).
Thanks...
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Unidentified subject!

1997-12-05 Thread Sten Anderson
Subject: Re: emacs and .Xdefaults
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From: Sten Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 05 Dec 1997 12:17:43 +0100
In-Reply-To: Gilbert Laycock's message of 05 Dec 1997 10:43:07 +
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X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.52/XEmacs 20.2

Gilbert Laycock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Kirk == Kirk Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Kirk I just made a new installation of bo, and emacs no longer seems to
 Kirk read my ~/.Xdefaults file like it used to in rex.
 
 Shouldn't it be called ~/.Xresources ?

Yes

 Personally I have the two filenames symbolic linked together, because
 some X installations I use seem to like one and some like the other. 
 
 Debian seems to only use .Xresources.
 

Debians preferences can be revealed by reading the file
/etc/X11/Xsession

Here are the relevant parts:

##

sysresources=/etc/X11/Xresources
usrresources=$HOME/.Xresources

##

if [ -f $sysresources ]
then
  xrdb -merge $sysresources
fi

##

if grep -q ^allow-user-resources /etc/X11/config
then
  if [ -f $usrresources ]
  then
xrdb -merge $usrresources
  fi
fi

##


 I have seen some installations of X that distinguish between the two
 names, along the lines of ~/.Xdefaults will completely override the
 system wide xrdb settings whereas ~/.Xresources will be merged with
 the system ones. (Or was it the other way around?)

This doesn't apply to Debian

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pppd complains link isn't 8-bit clean!

1997-12-05 Thread Mark Phillips

Hi,

A friend and I have been having problems getting ppp to work on his
laptop.  Everything works with the chat script until just after ppp is
engaged.  Then it complains as follows.

pppd Serial connection established
Using interface ppp0
Connect:ppp0 - /dev/ttyS1
LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Connection terminated.
Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
Problem: all has bit 7 set to 0

I've tried connecting with ppp from windows 95 on the same machine with
the same modem etc, and it all works fine, so it would seem the problem is
something to do with the debian setup.  The only thing I can think of is
interrupts, but I have looked at /proc/interrupts and it seems okay - but
perhaps this doesn't tell the whole story???

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark.


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Re: HTTP background tool

1997-12-05 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:   I was wondering if anyone knew of a tool, that will basically
: connect to a site through port 80, using HTTP and download a document
: in the background?

: perl certainly provides all you need.  You could easily specify a URL
: and have a perl program download its file and everything it links to and
: everything its links link to. If you start with yahoo, and have infinite
: disk resources...

Do not reinvent the wheel. The Wget package will do what you want, and
more.

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Re: Network Setting

1997-12-05 Thread Pancho Horrillo
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Ana Silva wrote:

 Hello...
 I´ve been installing debian-linux in a machine. Everything went well,
 but i don´t access network!
 I think i need to create a device eth0 but i can´t! (Because when i run
 /etc/init.d/network it says no such device )
 Can someone help me ? (This is realy bugging me... :((( ).
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Hi!
You must first install the modules or recompile the kernel to
support your ethernet (or whatever) card.

You can install the module with modconfig, it will ask you to
insert base address and irq setting for your ethernet card (only if it is
an ISA card, PCI cards fully autoprobe...). Once you did dat, you can
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Re: Network Setting

1997-12-05 Thread Pancho Horrillo

On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Ana Silva wrote:

 Hello...
 I´ve been installing debian-linux in a machine. Everything went well,
 but i don´t access network!
 I think i need to create a device eth0 but i can´t! (Because when i run
 /etc/init.d/network it says no such device )
 Can someone help me ? (This is realy bugging me... :((( ).
 Thanks...
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Hi!
You must first install the modules or recompile the kernel to
support your ethernet (or whatever) card.

You can install the module with modconfig, it will ask you to
insert base address and irq setting for your ethernet card (only if it is
an ISA card, PCI cards fully autoprobe...). Once you did dat, you can
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How are .Xdefaults files handled under Debian?

1997-12-05 Thread Mark Phillips

Hi,

I added the line:

xterm.scrollBar:true

In a .Xdefaults file to turn on scrollbars automatically on xterms, but X
seemed to ignore this.  How does Debian deal with Xdefaults?  And where
can I read about these things?

Thanks,

Mark.


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Anyone packaging new smail (to stop spam relays)?

1997-12-05 Thread Petri Wessman
The current version of smail in the 'unstable' Debian release is a bit 
old and doesn't have support to stop spam relaying. I have heard that
version 3.2.0.94 has a new config variable (smail_remote_allow) for
this. Is anyone packaging the new smail? There's a very real need for
an MTA that blocks spam relays right now, it's a steadily growing
problem.

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Re: How are .Xdefaults files handled under Debian?

1997-12-05 Thread Sten Anderson
Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I added the line:
 
 xterm.scrollBar:  true
 
 In a .Xdefaults file to turn on scrollbars automatically on xterms, but X
 seemed to ignore this.  How does Debian deal with Xdefaults?  

In Debian, the file .Xdefaults should be renamed to
.Xresources. This file is then evaluated every time you login (if
you have the line allow-user-resources in /etc/X11/config). 

You can also run the command xrdb -merge .Xdefaults (or .Xresources) 
to update your resources manually without login out and in. 

 And where can I read about these things?

A good place to start reading is the manual page for xdm. This manual
page tells you what happens in which order, and where the
configuration files are located. Most of xdm's behaviour is determined 
by scripts, and these scripts are actually readable.

And if you don't like man pages, I highly recommend installing tkman. 

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Re: Where is -Adobe-Helvetica-Bold-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*?

1997-12-05 Thread Mark Phillips


I didn't receive any reply to the following.  Does nobody know?


On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:

 
 When I try to run either fr (filerunner) or tkman, it comes up with
 similar messages, both complaining about the lack of the font:
 
 -Adobe-Helvetica-Bold-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*
 
 It works fine on my machine at home, and as far as I can tell, they both
 have the same fonts installed.  So, what fonts need to be installed, or
 what isn't configured properly?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mark.
 


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Re: Network Setting

1997-12-05 Thread Matthew Tebbens

What type of network card do you have ?
Also post your /etc/init.d/network, maybe theres a problem in there.
No matter what the problem is, you really should re-compile the kernel
with support added for only those features you want.

Matthew


On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Pancho Horrillo wrote:

 On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Ana Silva wrote:
 
  Hello...
  I´ve been installing debian-linux in a machine. Everything went well,
  but i don´t access network!
  I think i need to create a device eth0 but i can´t! (Because when i run
  /etc/init.d/network it says no such device )
  Can someone help me ? (This is realy bugging me... :((( ).
  Thanks...
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 Hi!
 You must first install the modules or recompile the kernel to
 support your ethernet (or whatever) card.
 
 You can install the module with modconfig, it will ask you to
 insert base address and irq setting for your ethernet card (only if it is
 an ISA card, PCI cards fully autoprobe...). Once you did dat, you can
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Re: HTTP background tool

1997-12-05 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:   I was wondering if anyone knew of a tool, that will basically
: connect to a site through port 80, using HTTP and download a document
: in the background?

: perl certainly provides all you need.  You could easily specify a URL
: and have a perl program download its file and everything it links to and
: everything its links link to. If you start with yahoo, and have infinite
: disk resources...

Do not reinvent the wheel. The Wget package will do what you want, and
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Re: dunc pppd configuration script

1997-12-05 Thread Richard G. Roberto
Just to clear up some confusion about dunc, I realize the
script has shortcomings and John is looking into taking over
the package so it can get properly attended to.  However,
its really quite useable in its current state -- even on a
bo system.  It's just an ash script that uses dialog, so it
should depend on _any_ version of libc since the dependant
packages already do.  It was built with debmake which
incorrectly added the libc dependency and I couldn't seem to
get rid of it.  Basically, since ash and dialog and ppp, etc
all depend on some version of libc, dunc doesn't need to.
It doesn't use the c library for anything, only the tools it
uses do.  As far as the core functionality goes, it should
work out of the box for most situations, but it is still a
bit broken when adding a deleting multpile connections.  It
also doesn't add defaultroute automatically, which it
probably should.  I'd be happy to work out any other
problems in the short term while John gets up to speed on it
if there is a significant demand.  Else, John will surely
tighten things up.

PPP options ...

I also want to address this issue about standard options
file locations.  It is impossible to manage multiple ppp
options sets in the same file unless the option requirements
are identicle.  Since unix is a multiuser system, it only
makes sense to use an organization where the system defaults
are considered, and user specific options configurable.  I
personally have three different connection requirements and
use dunc/dppp to manage them.  I couldn't do that all in the
same options file since the options conflict.  I had thought
of making a way to manage the system options file
automatically, but decided that providing a hook to just
edit it would be enough since the only people needing to 
manage this file would be sysadmins.  Incidentally, win95
and NT both provide a way to manage multiple connections and
the data is stored per user.  If the goal is to make setting
up ppp as simple as win95, then why all the hoopla about per
user configuration capability?

dppp ...

What dppp does is parse the options file created by dunc and
feed it (via xargs) to the pppd command, which automatically
considers the /etc/ppp/options file when run in this manner.
It does the same for the chat file, if there is one.  If
dunc actually worked better, had more options, and was
easier to navigate, I think it would be pretty good.  But I
also think that managing multiple connections per user (not
to mention per system!) is a big win, and forcing people
into having root permissions to setup their ppp connection
wouldn't sit well with many sysadmins.  I don't think I'd
want my users accidentally mucking around on their system as
root -- especially if they're connecting from home!  The
last thing I need to do is start making house calls.

Anyway, before I wrote dunc, I used my own options files and
chat files and scripts to connect and I though dunc was a
better way for me to manage my own stuff.  While writing it
I kept that in mind, and hoped that other people would feel
the same way.  I never got any real feedback on it directly,
so it never went any further.  John's new energy should help
move it forward, but he's still going to need users to use
the thing and provide feedback.  The fact that it doesn't
muck around in /etc/ppp at all (excpet if you run it as root
and need to write to pap,chap-secrets, but then it just adds
an entry to the end of the file), means that it won't break
anything systemic.  Because its basically safe to try out,
you can add a lot of value to it by using it -- at pretty
much no risk ot your system.  I'm tempted to say at
absolutely no risk, but I know better than that ;)

Sorry for the long post.

Cheers,

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Re: How are .Xdefaults files handled under Debian?

1997-12-05 Thread bleach
Shouldn't it be:  xterm*scrollBar:true (on)

On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:
 I added the line:
 
 xterm.scrollBar:  true
 
 In a .Xdefaults file to turn on scrollbars automatically on xterms, but X
 seemed to ignore this.  How does Debian deal with Xdefaults?  And where
 can I read about these things?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Network Setting

1997-12-05 Thread Ana Silva
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Pancho Horrillo wrote:

  I think i need to create a device eth0 but i can´t! (Because when i run
  /etc/init.d/network it says no such device )

 You must first install the modules or recompile the kernel to
 support your ethernet (or whatever) card.
 You can install the module with modconfig, it will ask you to
 insert base address and irq setting for your ethernet card (only if it is
 an ISA card, PCI cards fully autoprobe...). Once you did dat, you can
 configure your network...

  Thanks, It solved the problem !

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Re: How are .Xdefaults files handled under Debian?

1997-12-05 Thread Mark Phillips
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, bleach wrote:

 Shouldn't it be:  xterm*scrollBar:true (on)

Maybe.  I was copying another file.  How did you find out about the
correct format?


 
 On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:
  I added the line:
  
  xterm.scrollBar:true
  
  In a .Xdefaults file to turn on scrollbars automatically on xterms, but X
  seemed to ignore this.  How does Debian deal with Xdefaults?  And where
  can I read about these things?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Mark.
 
 

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Re: HTTP background tool

1997-12-05 Thread Dale Martin
Orn E. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 
   I was wondering if anyone knew of a tool, that will basically
 connect to a site through port 80, using HTTP and download a document
 in the background?
 
   Some sites are very slow, and they only provide HTTP access to the
 information they provide... while it would be nice to be able to
 download some links with a command line tool.
 
   Any links or hints are appreciated.

I use snarf.  It can do command line grabs from http, finger, ftp, and
gopher.  Seems to work reasonably well, and it's super simple to use.

I'm not sure if it's still available or not - I don't see it in my mirror.
Let me know if it's not - I'll package it.

Later,
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Problems with jdk1.1.3 and JNI

1997-12-05 Thread Richard A. Guay
Hi,

I am not sure this is the right list for this problem, but I thought someone
might be able to direct me to the right place.  I was hoping the maintainer
for the java package might be able to help.

I am trying out JNI programming using the linux port for jdk1.1.3 and the
new libjava.so file.  I am doing my development on a Debian System, 200 Mhz
Pentium with 32 Megs of RAM.  I have based my code completely after the
example in the Java Tutorials at Javasoft.  I am using the following line to
compile the library (I have never made shared libraries before):

gcc -shared -I/usr2/programs/jdk1.1.3/include -I/usr2/programs/jdk1.1.3/incl
ude/genunix -o libGroup.so javaQ_groups_Group.c

The file libGroup.so is generated without any warnings.  When I go to run
the java program, I get the following message:

java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: setegid
   at javaQ.groups.Test.main(Test.java: 7)

The setegid is a function in the Group.java file that was declared native.
The javaQ_groups_Group.c file contains the definition for setegid (which is
only a print(Hello) currently for test purposes).   The Group.java file
(contains the class definition) has the static statement for the loading of
the library.

I have even tried the exact tutorial on JNI programming with the same
results.  I have added the directory with the libGroup.so into the
/etc/ld.so.config file and ran ldconfig.  The library is listed when I run
ldconfig -p.

I have also tried compiling with the -fpic flag for gcc with the same
results.

I even went to a Solaris system and tried the save thing.  I get the same
results.  Therefore, I do not believe it has anything to do with my
installation of Debian or the jdk1.1.3 files.  I just do not know what the
problem is or how to go about finding a solution.  Therefore, I have called
upon this group of knowledgeable people.

Thank you for your time and attention.

Richard A. Guay
Network Administrator
ASIC International Inc.
http://www.asicint.com
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Re: mount trouble with MSDOS fs

1997-12-05 Thread Charles Read
/proc/filesystems shows that msdos, vfat are
present.  I definitely compiled them into the
kernel sometime back.

The error msg is:

# mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt
[MS-DOS FS Rel. 12, FAT 16, check=n,conv=b,uid=0, ...]
[me=0xf8,cs=8,#f=2, ...]
Translation block size = 512
VFS:  Can't find a valid MSDOS filesystem on dev
mount:  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1
or too many mounted filesystems


Original Message Follows
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:30:29 +1100
From: Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Charles Read [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: mount trouble with MSDOS fs

On Thu, Dec 04, 1997 at 09:00:21PM -0600, Charles Read wrote:
 A while back, I reported that
 # mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt
 
 was not working.  Someone said that
 running Norton Disk Doctor on /dev/hda1 (C:)
 from within Win95 resolved a similar problem.
 
 So I ran Norton Disk Doctor on /dev/hda1.  
 It corrected a minor problem, but the mount
 command *still* does not work within Linux.

No kernel support? You need to have the fat and msdos modules installed,
or compiled in. (fat is a base for both msdos and vfat). What's the 
error
message you're getting?


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Re: pppd complains link isn't 8-bit clean!

1997-12-05 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 Hi,
 
 A friend and I have been having problems getting ppp to work on his
 laptop.  Everything works with the chat script until just after ppp is
 engaged.  Then it complains as follows.
 
 pppd Serial connection established
 Using interface ppp0
 Connect:ppp0 - /dev/ttyS1
 LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
 Connection terminated.
 Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
 Problem: all has bit 7 set to 0
 
 I've tried connecting with ppp from windows 95 on the same machine with
 the same modem etc, and it all works fine, so it would seem the problem is
 something to do with the debian setup.  The only thing I can think of is
 interrupts, but I have looked at /proc/interrupts and it seems okay - but
 perhaps this doesn't tell the whole story???

Hi.

This has nothing to do with interrrupts. The problem here is that ppp is
not started on remote side and still trying to communicate with you via
human-readable ascii (that's the origin of 8-bit unclean). Try to connect
to the peer using minicom, login mannualy and start ppp by either typing
ppp or something like that. When you see garbage on the screen - you are
done! Just remember what you did and edit your /etc/ppp.chatscript
accordingly.

Alex Y.

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Re: Problems with jdk1.1.3 and JNI

1997-12-05 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 gcc -shared -I/usr2/programs/jdk1.1.3/include -I/usr2/programs/jdk1.1.3/incl
 ude/genunix -o libGroup.so javaQ_groups_Group.c

Hi.

This is not the right way to generate shared library. What you got here
is plain objet file (.o) named as shared lib.
The correct way is:

gcc -fPIC -c -I.  javaQ_groups_Group.c
gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,libGroup.so.1 -o libGroup.so.1 javaQ_groups_Group.o
ln -s libGroup.so.1 libGroup.so

Hope this helps.

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Re: hostname

1997-12-05 Thread Greg Green
THANKS!!

Greg



Manoj Srivastava wrote:

 Hi,
 Greg == Greg Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Greg I am currently working just fine on my LAN, however, I need to
 Greg change my host name only. What files would I modify to do so?  I
 Greg know I need to change the /etc/hosts, but I do knot know what
 Greg others need to be changed.  Any input would be helpful.

 From a recent post by Nils Rennebarth:

 Nils == Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:

 Nils What did the trick for me:

 Nils 1) change /etc/hostname then say
 Nils% hostname --file /etc/hostname
 Nils 2) change IP-address entry in /etc/hosts
 Nils 3) rerun sendmailconfig
 Nils 4) change /etc/resolv.conf if domain changed too
 Nils 5) change /etc/mailname

 Nils (Did I forget something?)

 Nils No reboot is necessary.

 Nils Nils

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MacIntosh diskettes

1997-12-05 Thread Guido Bozzetto
How can I configure a Debian 1.3.1 box to read and write on/to Mac
diskettes and which programs can I use  ?
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Re: Get this, Gateway2000's 'wonderful' tech support

1997-12-05 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 Allen Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I wrote a e-mail to gateway2000's tech support team asking them if Linux
  was compatible with my Promise Ultra 33 here is an EXACT copy of what was
  returned:
  
  Hello Allen,
  
  Thanks for your message. Unfortunatly, Linus has not been tested on any
  system that Gateway sells and therefore we off no support for that
  operating system. If the system works in the original operating system
  that we shipped, then that is what we support.
  Sorry for the inconvience,

 I was delighted to hear this.  When I bought my new machine last
spring, it was a close call between Micron and Gateway, and I finally
chose Micron.  After similar experiences with Micron support (since my
machine was shipped with W95, they weren't even willing to help with
configuring the monitor for DOS/Windows, let alone Linux), I've been
kicking myself for not going with Gateway.  Now I feel better!

Bob


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Debian libc5 (bo/stable) to libc6 (hamm/unstable) upgrade Mini-HOWTO

1997-12-05 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, this Mini-HOWTO was posted to the various
lists.  It appears to be identical to the version posted on Wed Nov 12.
Is this an error, or is it an intentional repeat, not an update?

Bob
  


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Installation Problem

1997-12-05 Thread Faiz ul Haque Zeya




Hello, I come 
accross three problems while installing Debian 1.3.1 from 
CD
1. The system boots correctly from the 
boot floppy created during installation  but by 
booting from harddisk (through LILO ) the kernel boots 
 correctly but then it stopped displaying the 
following:
 VFS: Mounted root 
msdos file system readonly Unable to open an 
initial console
 How to correct 
it ?. Why msdos is shown as the filesystem instead of ext2 
(floppy booting shows ext2) . Is this a problem due to 
LILO
2. The X configuration file 
can not be created during installation and 
hence Xserver cannot be started form 
xdm. How it can be created manually. 
Do I have to reinstall 
.
3. Thirdly I want to 
know how to use X without mouse . . What should 
be done to use mouse funcions through 
keyboard ?.
Thanks
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Re: Debian libc5 (bo/stable) to libc6 (hamm/unstable) upgrade Mini-HOWTO

1997-12-05 Thread Scott Ellis
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:

  On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, this Mini-HOWTO was posted to the various
 lists.  It appears to be identical to the version posted on Wed Nov 12.
 Is this an error, or is it an intentional repeat, not an update?

It was an intentional repeat.  I haven't gotten around to updating it, but
enough questions were being asked that it answers that I thought it was
about time to repost it.

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command logging

1997-12-05 Thread Matthew Tebbens

Is there a way to log all commands typed by someone ?

ttysnoop does not work all that great,
.bash_history only logs AFTER the person logs off,
not sure if I can alter bash to log everything...

I looked at telnetd, but I'm not sure if any of the
debugging features do this.

Something where I could just do a 'tail -f logfile' to
keep tabs on what people are doing...

Thanks,
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multiple X sessions problem

1997-12-05 Thread E Papantoniou
(this is a repost)
Hi all,

my problem is that I cannot run more than one X server at the same time.
When I am logged in as a user one and run startx on display :0.0, I do
Ctrl-Alt-F2, log in as a user two and type startx -- :1.0
The second X server attempts to start (the gray default background appears)
and gets stuck at that point. Going back to the Ctrl-Alt-F2 screen the
erron message is :

AUDIT ...(time and date)... 2144 X:client 1 rejected from local host
Xlib: connection to :1.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorised to connect to server

Does anybody know what can be done?

I am using kernel 2.0.31, with the following X configuration:

XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: Jun  2 1997
Operating System: Linux 2.0.21 i486 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
  newmmio, mmio_928, s3_generic

Thanks in advance

Manos


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Re: Get this, Gateway2000's 'wonderful' tech support

1997-12-05 Thread Matthew Tebbens

The one thing I like about Micron is that they have more options
to pick from. I can almost pick all the hardware that will work
with Linux. With Gateway I don't like the video cards, and 
sound cards they offer...
I would probably buy from Micron in the future.



On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:

  Allen Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   I wrote a e-mail to gateway2000's tech support team asking them if Linux
   was compatible with my Promise Ultra 33 here is an EXACT copy of what was
   returned:
   
   Hello Allen,
   
   Thanks for your message. Unfortunatly, Linus has not been tested on any
   system that Gateway sells and therefore we off no support for that
   operating system. If the system works in the original operating system
   that we shipped, then that is what we support.
   Sorry for the inconvience,
 
  I was delighted to hear this.  When I bought my new machine last
 spring, it was a close call between Micron and Gateway, and I finally
 chose Micron.  After similar experiences with Micron support (since my
 machine was shipped with W95, they weren't even willing to help with
 configuring the monitor for DOS/Windows, let alone Linux), I've been
 kicking myself for not going with Gateway.  Now I feel better!
 
 Bob
 
 
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How unstable is hamm?

1997-12-05 Thread John Bradley Fitzgibbons

I've been watching all of the messages concerning libc6 upgrades and now
I've just got to ask.  How unstable is hamm?  My major interest is due to
development.  I'd really like to start playing around with version 6, but
I'd hate to destroy my system to do it... :)  I have an admin level
knowledge of unix so feel free to be honest with me.  Thanks in advance
for any input.


Brad Fitzgibbons

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Re: Where is font -Adobe-Helvetica-Bold-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*?

1997-12-05 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Mark Phillips wrote:
 
 When I try to run either fr (filerunner) or tkman, it comes up with
 similar messages, both complaining about the lack of the font:
 
 -Adobe-Helvetica-Bold-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*
 
 It works fine on my machine at home, and as far as I can tell, they both
 have the same fonts installed.  So, what fonts need to be installed, or
 what isn't configured properly?

Here's how you can find out. In /usr/lib/X11/fonts there are a number of
directories. Each of the directories will have a fonts.alias file or a
fonts.scale file in it. You can search these for the above font by using
find. Run this:

find /usr/lib/X11/fonts \( -name fonts.scale -o -name fonts.alias \) -exec grep 
-i -e '-Adobe-Helvetica-Bold-R-Normal-.*-.*-120-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*' {} \; -ls

and if that doesn't get you the file try:

find /usr/lib/X11/fonts \( -name fonts.scale -o -name fonts.alias \) -exec grep 
-i -e '-Adobe-Helvetica-Bold-R-Normal-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*' {} \; -ls

if that doesn't work then

find /usr/lib/X11/fonts \( -name fonts.scale -o -name fonts.alias \) -exec grep 
-i -e '-Adobe-Helvetica-Bold-R-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*-.*' {} \; -ls

and so on until you find the best match (the one with the most elements 
matching).

Then take the filename which it was grep'ed from and do

dpkg --search filename

to find the package. Simple huh? 8) X has a fancy way of specifying fonts
which is very flexible (more flexible than a simple find/grep command can locate
exactly the same).

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Re: emacs and .Xdefaults

1997-12-05 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Wintermute wrote:
 
 Kirk Hilliard wrote:
 
  Last week I issued a plea for help:
   I just made a new installation of bo, and emacs no longer seems to
   read my ~/.Xdefaults file like it used to in rex.
 
  And Wintermute [EMAIL PROTECTED] came to the rescue:
   Try this..
  
   xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults
 
  That does the job!
 
  Since it only works for the current X session, I added it to my
  ~/.xsession file and all is fine.  Still, I did not have to do this in
  rex.  Is this change a bug or a feature?
 
 
 Actually this is a feature.  You may find some helpful files in the
 /etc/X11 directory that hint at this.  Particularly the one called
 /etc/X11/config.  This file tells another configuration file (one that
 actually sets up the default environment) whether or not to allow things
 such as User Resources, User Xsession files, and the like to be included
 at start time, or be ignored.  This seems to be a useless feature since
 even with XDM running, a user can execute the commands necessary to
 alter their environment after X has started through an XTERM.  The only
 thing it might do is to enforce only a particular type of window
 manager.
 The config file should be changed to include the following lines:
 
 allow-user-resources
 allow-user-modmap
 allow-user-xsession
 
 If you are running XDM by default you will need to change to a free
 virtual terminal (CNTRL-ALT-F1), and stop the XDM process by running
 '/etc/init.d/xdm stop' as root, and then restart it with
 '/etc/init.d/xdm start'.  Don't forget to change back to the virtual
 terminal again (CNTRL-ALT-F1) and log out.
 
 User resources will then be loaded from .Xdefaults in their home
 directory, also if one exists, it will attempt to execute a users
 ...xsession and .xmodmap files.  The .xsession determines which commands
 will set up the environment for the session, and what window manager it
 should start.  The .xmodmap file will contain keymapping for that
 particular session.
 
 Hope this helps.

As Gilbert Laycock also noticed, debian's (XFree in general?) setup
uses .Xresources instead of the old convention of .Xdefaults (ala
SunOS, etc.). See /etc/X11/Xsession to see where this is done.

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Re: Ink Jet Printers

1997-12-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
The Ghostscript printer compatibility web page recommends the cdj550
driver for the 694c and has some suggestions and further links for Epson
Stylus printers:

http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/printer.html

On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Jess Stryker wrote:

 HP 694c DeskJet
 
 Epson Stylus Color 600
 
 These printers aren't listed as either compatible
 or non-compatible in the hardware compatibility
 HOWTO.Is anyone using either of these printers
 or know if they work with Debian?
 
 The HP uses HP PCL level 3 language.
 The Epson uses ESC/P2 language.


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Re: BS in rxvt+ncurses

1997-12-05 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Marcelo E. Magallón wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've already asked this, and I'm sure someone must be having the
 same problem...
 
 No matter how I set the backspace in X11, it won't work under rxvt +
 some ncurses program, for example, pine. At some point the entry in
 /etc/terminfo/r/rxvt was changed, and the backspace stopped working. The
 change isn't documented in the Debian changelog, it just says Munged
 rxvt entry a bit more, and also makes reference to an update to the
 terminfo database...
 
 xterm does work, and infocmp says:
 
 comparing rxvt to xterm.
 comparing booleans.
 comparing numbers.
 colors: -1:8.
 pairs: -1:64.
 comparing strings.
 hpa: NULL, '\E[%i%p1%dG'.
 kend: '\E[4~', '\E[F'.
 khome: '\E[1~', '\E[H'.
 kmous: NULL, '\E[M'.
 vpa: NULL, '\E[%i%p1%dd'.
 
 I don't see anything relevant here. There are far more differences
 between the entry that worked and the one that doesn't.
 
 I have:
 
 ii  ncurses-base1.9.9g-6
 ii  rxvt2.20-8
 
 The only thing I see that may be relevant is that xterm does use
 libncurses and rxvt doesn't. I don't think rxvt is broken... it worked
 before... the problem is, I don't know before what. Also, I don't want
 to blindy move the old entry over the new one, because I see there are
 other differences between them and some of them are indeed good.
 
 Thank you very much in advance (I mean it, this is getting annoying)
 
 Marcelo Magallón

Man, this problem has come up on this list how many times now? 
Hoow! (I'm not frustrated at you Marcelo.) Isn't it time we
had a decent search engine on the debian-user archives or some help
database that people could look into? 

Anyway Marcelo, add this to your ~/.Xresources file (and make sure 
that you have 'allow-user-resources' in /etc/X11/config). 

Rxvt.keysym.0x: \b

If that doesn't work let me know, but it solved the problem for me
and many others. This is better than switch your whole X keymap.

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Re: How unstable is hamm?

1997-12-05 Thread Will Lowe
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, John Bradley Fitzgibbons wrote:

 I've been watching all of the messages concerning libc6 upgrades and now
 I've just got to ask.  How unstable is hamm?  My major interest is due to
I've been running a mostly-hamm system since July,  and haven't had any
problems other than:

At one point about a month ago I synced up my machine with the unstable
tree,  because I was getting utmp errors.  Libc6 has redefined a mess of
those basic data types,  so things like w and who weren't working.
Haven't had any trouble since then.

Otherwise,  just make sure you follow the libc5-to-libc6 howto so you
don't really screw up dpkg.

Will


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Re: Dreamware: encrypted tcpip?

1997-12-05 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote:

 I was thinking that I want my wan links to be encrypted. Ssh would not be
 enough, as nfs or ftp/rcp also need to be encrypted. I was wondering if
 there was anything such as this in the ppp code or ip tunneling code?

http://skip.incog.com/

I just heard about this yesterday. I've never seen it in action.

...RickM...


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Re: How unstable is hamm?

1997-12-05 Thread Scott Ellis
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, John Bradley Fitzgibbons wrote:

 I've been watching all of the messages concerning libc6 upgrades and now
 I've just got to ask.  How unstable is hamm?  My major interest is due to
 development.  I'd really like to start playing around with version 6, but
 I'd hate to destroy my system to do it... :)  I have an admin level
 knowledge of unix so feel free to be honest with me.  Thanks in advance
 for any input.

Speaking as the author of the libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO, I've experienced
very few problems running my machine up-to-date with the latest packages
from hamm.  Once you're over the initial upgrade hurdle, everything pretty
much works fine.

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Re: Dreamware: encrypted tcpip?

1997-12-05 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Walter L. Preuninger II wrote:
 
 I was thinking that I want my wan links to be encrypted. Ssh would not be
 enough, as nfs or ftp/rcp also need to be encrypted. I was wondering if
 there was anything such as this in the ppp code or ip tunneling code?

I believe some IETF commitee is working on this for IPv6. I believe a
standard
is also being worked on for encrpyted IP tunneling, which I would
imagine
will be here sooner.

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Re: MacIntosh diskettes

1997-12-05 Thread Rick Hawkins

 How can I configure a Debian 1.3.1 box to read and write on/to Mac
 diskettes and which programs can I use  ?

You can't.  The pc type drive is physically incapable of handling the mac 
format.  

The solution is to use pc format disks, which both the mac  linux can read  
write.

rick



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Re: KDE mismatched packages...

1997-12-05 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 Hey..
 
 Is there anyreason that some of the packages in non-free are beta2-1 and
 some are beta2-2?  Very frustrating when there isn't enough of either of
 them for a full install.

This is because some of them are stuck in the Incoming AFAIK.  Our archive 
maintainer, Guy Mayor, has just returned and everything should be fixed soon.



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Re: pppd complains link isn't 8-bit clean!

1997-12-05 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Mark Phillips wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 A friend and I have been having problems getting ppp to work on his
 laptop.  Everything works with the chat script until just after ppp is
 engaged.  Then it complains as follows.
 
 pppd Serial connection established
 Using interface ppp0
 Connect:ppp0 - /dev/ttyS1
 LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
 Connection terminated.
 Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
 Problem: all has bit 7 set to 0
 
 I've tried connecting with ppp from windows 95 on the same machine with
 the same modem etc, and it all works fine, so it would seem the problem is
 something to do with the debian setup.  The only thing I can think of is
 interrupts, but I have looked at /proc/interrupts and it seems okay - but
 perhaps this doesn't tell the whole story???
 
 Any help would be much appreciated.

Look at your chat script. Test its workings by using minicom, cu, 
seyon, or some other terminal program to manually dial in. Just
because you get 'Connect: ppp0 - /dev/ttyS1' doesn't mean that
your connect script worked. It simply means that your connect script
*thinks* that it worked. Think about what the error message is telling
you: pppd never received an LCP packet which infers that ppp was
never started and also that 'all has bit 7 set to 0'. Now, what sort
of characters always have bit 7 set to 0. Answer: printable ASCII
characters (as well as a few unprintable ones). This should generally
suggest to you that the system on the other end is still sending you
some kind of prompt. Check it out, this is most likely the solution.

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Re: ati tv tuner

1997-12-05 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Benoit Joly wrote:
 
 hi all, i wanna know if there is a driver (beta, alpha...) for the tv
 tuner, or in developpement??
 
 i have this card and want to throw away my win95...
 
 thanks in advances (and thanks for answers that i received for all my prob
 in linux installation, now it's working good)

I've been looking for this for my PB (Reveal) tv card for some time. A 
good place to start searching (I haven't for a while) would be:

http://www.ruel.net/pctv.html

This guys collects info about using TV cards in pcs and though there
probably
isn't much linux info there per se there should be some useful links and 
other information.

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PPP modem connection.

1997-12-05 Thread gustavoq
I´ve been trying to connect ppp using XISP and after giving the ppp 
garbage characters (and clicking on continue) it disconnects the line. I 
think I have PPP installed correctly, but how can I be sure?
(I do connect with the same hardware under Windows 95 without a problem)


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Re: Philosophical question

1997-12-05 Thread tko
Larry G. Gariepy Jr. writes:
 
 Hi all,
 I guess this doesn't pertain specifically to Debian, but I have a
 philosophical question about software upgrades, and I just thought I would 
 take

My two cents worth. Like yourself, I don't like rocking the boat either. My
upgrade philosophy is - wait until the next level of stable has been
'gelled' and then wait 3 -4 months until all the little problems have been
discovered along with the solutions/'work-arounds'. At that point, I then
upgrade because I know that I have a 99.9% chance of success without rocking
the boat.

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(Bruce's New Venture (Was Re: BS in rxvt+ncurses)

1997-12-05 Thread Civ Kevin F. Havener
Jens, I know just the right guy to do this...our soon to be departed 
project leader.  Didn't he mention doing something similar as part of 
his life-after-project-leader?  Something about taking service calls and 
stripping out company details, then providing that back to the Debian 
community.  Maybe he can start procticing on the Debian-user archives :-)

  kevin 


On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

 Man, this problem has come up on this list how many times now? 
 Hoow! (I'm not frustrated at you Marcelo.) Isn't it time we
 had a decent search engine on the debian-user archives or some help
 database that people could look into? 


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Re: MacIntosh diskettes

1997-12-05 Thread Nils Rennebarth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:
  How can I configure a Debian 1.3.1 box to read and write on/to Mac
  diskettes and which programs can I use  ?
 

 You can't.  The pc type drive is physically incapable of handling the
 mac format. 
This is only true for the very old low density disks.

Todays 1.44MB floppys are hardware compatible with the dos ones, only the
data is organized differently. Install hfsutils. From the package info

 Description: Tools for reading and writing Macintosh volumes.
  HFS is the native Macintosh filesystem format.
  .
  This package contains several command-line utilities for
  reading and writing Macintosh HFS-formatted media such as
  floppy disks, CD-ROMs, and hard disks.
  .
  Also included is a scriptable Tcl shell and `xhfs', a
  comprehensive X interface.

I once used this with success to read data from a Mac formatted floppy.


 The solution is to use pc format disks, which both the mac  linux can
 read  write. 
This needs special programs on the MAC that may not be there.
And it's rather inconvenient.

Nils


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Re: Get this, Gateway2000's 'wonderful' tech support

1997-12-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:

:  Allen Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:  
:   I wrote a e-mail to gateway2000's tech support team asking them if Linux
:   was compatible with my Promise Ultra 33 here is an EXACT copy of what was
:   returned:
:   
:   Hello Allen,
:   
:   Thanks for your message. Unfortunatly, Linus has not been tested on any
:   system that Gateway sells and therefore we off no support for that
:   operating system. If the system works in the original operating system
:   that we shipped, then that is what we support.
:   Sorry for the inconvience,
: 
:  I was delighted to hear this.  When I bought my new machine last
: spring, it was a close call between Micron and Gateway, and I finally
: chose Micron.  After similar experiences with Micron support (since my
: machine was shipped with W95, they weren't even willing to help with
: configuring the monitor for DOS/Windows, let alone Linux), I've been
: kicking myself for not going with Gateway.  Now I feel better!
: 
: Bob

That's too bad, as Gateway has several excellent technicians who run
Debian themselves.  I've also heard rumors that Gateway runs a few Linux
boxes on campus (I don't think I'm supposed to know that, so you never
heard it here)

Gateway has made junk, like everybody else.  I've spent more than enough
time on the phone with Compaq and IBM.  OTOH, when some friends
purchased a Gateway PPro last spring, I set it up for them in one
evening, and it ran like a dream.  The one hardware problem we had was
quickly dealt with over the phone.

Every PC manufacturer hires drones to man the phones (either that, or
they have stressed, overworked, qualified techs and lots of busy signals
...) so let's not freak out at Gateway cos somebody talked to an
ignorant person.

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Re: BS in rxvt+ncurses

1997-12-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

[ problem snipped ]
: 
: Man, this problem has come up on this list how many times now? 
: Hoow! (I'm not frustrated at you Marcelo.) Isn't it time we
: had a decent search engine on the debian-user archives or some help
: database that people could look into? 
: 
: Anyway Marcelo, add this to your ~/.Xresources file (and make sure 
: that you have 'allow-user-resources' in /etc/X11/config). 
: 
: Rxvt.keysym.0x: \b
: 
: If that doesn't work let me know, but it solved the problem for me
: and many others. This is better than switch your whole X keymap.
: 
: -- 
: Jens B. Jorgensen
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: 

Hmm, I'll regret saying this forever I bet :)  Many lists like this one
have an FAQ that gets posted semi-frequently.  Anyone ever attempted
this?  Are there good reasons for this NOT to happen?  Otherwise, we
should accumulate FAQ type questions (and yes, i would consider doing
this.  Only because I opened my mouth, not because I know all the
answers)

rxvt, shadow passwords vs. xdm, ppp configs, cd-rom device names ... a
few others come to mind

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Re: How unstable is hamm?

1997-12-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Scott Ellis wrote:

: On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, John Bradley Fitzgibbons wrote:
: 
:  I've been watching all of the messages concerning libc6 upgrades and now
:  I've just got to ask.  How unstable is hamm?  My major interest is due to
:  development.  I'd really like to start playing around with version 6, but
:  I'd hate to destroy my system to do it... :)  I have an admin level
:  knowledge of unix so feel free to be honest with me.  Thanks in advance
:  for any input.
: 
: Speaking as the author of the libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO, I've experienced
: very few problems running my machine up-to-date with the latest packages
: from hamm.  Once you're over the initial upgrade hurdle, everything pretty
: much works fine.
: 
: -- 
: Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/
: 

Kudos, Mr. Ellis.  I followed your HOWTO yesterday on a
semi-production server and it was relatively painless.  'e2fsck'
disappeared which made for an interesting reboot, but I accept the blame
for that.

Everything else went fine.  No horror stories.  And now there are a few
zillion packages to choose from.

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Re: How are .Xdefaults files handled under Debian?

1997-12-05 Thread bleach
Hi Mark;

Well, I think that I got it from a couple of places but I seem to remember
the man rxvt was about the more informative about XTERM resources (for my
purposes anyway) than man xterm was.

On the system that I am using right now the form of the entry is:
xterm*scrollBar:yes but I suspect that yes, on, and true may all
be aliases for the same boolean flag (ie: true).

I also use xterm*reverseVideo:yes but there is one thing that happens
that really bugs me...  If an error occurs in vi when on an xterm the
reverse video gets screwed up.  Background seems to switch to white
while the forground remains white.  Makes terminal use rather a bit
difficult!  To correct that it seems that I have to do hard resets in a
row using the pulldown menu.


best,
-bill

On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:

 On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, bleach wrote:
 
  Shouldn't it be:  xterm*scrollBar:true (on)
 
 Maybe.  I was copying another file.  How did you find out about the
 correct format?
 ...


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Re: How unstable is hamm?

1997-12-05 Thread Stephen Zedalis
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, John Bradley Fitzgibbons wrote:


I've been watching all of the messages concerning libc6 upgrades and now
I've just got to ask.  How unstable is hamm?  My major interest is due to
development.  I'd really like to start playing around with version 6, but
I'd hate to destroy my system to do it... :)  I have an admin level
knowledge of unix so feel free to be honest with me.  Thanks in advance
for any input.

Can't be too bad if Redhat is basing 5.0 on it... And its considered 
released.  (Although, I think 2.0.5c is still considered beta, wasn't
2.1 supposed to be the commercial grade release?)



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Sound.o module / Dependancies

1997-12-05 Thread Brian Skreeg
Hi there peoplewithsound,

ok, here we go...

Brand new fresh Debian 1.3.1 install from Infomagic 6 CD set.
Apon installation I notice the sound module isn`t available in this 
release (something to do with non-free missing?) . OK.. so..
kernel source 2.0.30 installed. 

make dep
make clean
make xconfig,
make dep (again to be sure)
chose Sound as module, SB16 (Y) and AWE patch..

now, no matter how I make the kernel, either using make zImage or
make-kpkg (then dpkg -i) the sound module dependancies aren`t set.
I`ve managed to get the sound.o into /lib/modules/ but it won`t
install. no dependancy information error.

Help?

TIA

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Re: Debian libc5 (bo/stable) to libc6 (hamm/unstable) upgrade Mini-HOWTO

1997-12-05 Thread bleach
Hi Bob;

In addition to what Scott said himself, I was told that he was sent a
specific request to post it again (in multiple groups).

However, like you (I suspect), I carefully read the whole thing (yet
again to see if there was anything new.

Thus, as a request to Scott:  If it is not too much trouble, would you do
something like put an all caps first line line that reads REPOST or
PERIODIC POST.  I admit that even that would not prevent me from
checking the date anyway though!

On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:

  On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, this Mini-HOWTO was posted to the various
 lists.  It appears to be identical to the version posted on Wed Nov 12.
 Is this an error, or is it an intentional repeat, not an update?
 
 Bob


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PPP and Linux

1997-12-05 Thread Alistair Phillips
Hi there Linux users.

I have installed Linux, and think that it is really great!  There are a
couple of things that I would like to do.  Firstly, I would like to be able
to get my Linux side to answer the phone, and if the user logs in OK, create
a PPP connection so that they would be able to load a WWW browser and look
at my HTML pages.  Please could you give me more info about this.

Secondly, I have Drivespaced my computer.  I would like to be able to access
the DriveSpaced side from my Linux side.  Is this possible?

Sorry for all of the questions!  I hope that someone will be able to help...
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release 1.3.1r6

1997-12-05 Thread Tom Derby
Help I can't get base 45 to download I've tried the mirror servers in
japan and Germany in addition to the main site in the U.S. I am trying
to get it down with Win95 all the other files i.e. base 1-3 and root all
came through fine.  Anybody else having a problem?

thanks  Tom Derby
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Re: Installation Problem

1997-12-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Faiz ul Haque Zeya wrote:

  Hello,
 I come accross three problems while installing Debian 1.3.1 from  CD
 
 1. The system boots correctly from the boot floppy created during 
 installation 
 but by booting from harddisk (through LILO ) the kernel boots 
 correctly but then it stopped displaying the following:
 
VFS: Mounted root msdos file system readonly
Unable to open an initial console
 
How to correct it ?. Why msdos is shown as the filesystem instead of ext2
(floppy booting shows ext2) .  Is this a problem  due to LILO

What does /etc/lilo.conf look like? It sounds like you specified the wrong
partition for root.

 
 2. The X configuration file  can not be  created during installation and hence
 Xserver cannot be started form xdm.
 How it can be created manually. Do  I have to reinstall .
 
Which packages did you install? 

Once you have all of the needed packages installed you can run
xbase-configure to create a configuration file.

 
 3.   Thirdly I want to know how to use X without mouse . . What should be
  done to use mouse  funcions through keyboard ?.
 
This one I have no idea about...sorry.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: HTTP background tool

1997-12-05 Thread Orn E. Hansen
Dale Martin writes:
  
  I use snarf.  It can do command line grabs from http, finger, ftp, and
  gopher.  Seems to work reasonably well, and it's super simple to use.
  
  I'm not sure if it's still available or not - I don't see it in my mirror.
  Let me know if it's not - I'll package it.
  

 I looked and it isn't there...

 Such tools can come in handy, as an example I just downloaded some
excel tables from a http site, where I took the actual index for some
company shares.  Then transfer it into the accounting server I am
writing, and used the accounting client to display a line chart of the 
index of the company I was interested in.

 No need to keep your fingers on a Dynosaur like web browser to hop
from one site to the next over slow links to get that info.  Just have 
it automatically transferred to your machine, then have a script pin
out the information you're interested in and put it into your books...

 That's Unix :-)


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Re: HTTP background tool

1997-12-05 Thread Orn E. Hansen
Eloy A. Paris writes:
  
  Do not reinvent the wheel. The Wget package will do what you want, and
  more.
  

 Tried it, it works great.


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