Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Gergely Madarasz wrote:

 On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Craig Sanders wrote:
 
  Tim, from my experiences with (much smaller scale but still essentially
  the same) mass-duplication of debian, all you need to do is duplicate the
  hard disk and change half a dozen (or less) files under /etc: 
  
  /etc/hostname
  /etc/init.d/network
  /etc/hosts
 
 no need for changing these files, bootp can handle them (there is an
 example rc.bootp which can be put in /etc/init.d/network)

that is true. however, i would be inclined to do it using dd to dupe
the disks and a sh/ed/sed/perl script to modify the config files purely
because bootp introduces a single point of failure to the network - if
the bootp server dies then the other machines can't boot until it's
fixed.  

The script method is also a lot simpler and more flexible - you can
auto-configure anything you like with a suitable smart script. bootp
only allows you to change the network details.


either way will work, and it is possible to have redundancy in the bootp
setup (just build another bootp or dhcp server and configure the two to
work together without conflicting).

craig

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curiosity

1998-02-11 Thread creative
This is just a curiosity...
I have debian 1.3.1.r6

when is going to be a new realise? that is almost 4 months old
I see lot of programs that need an update...

Thank you
Joaquin Grech

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Re: UPS again

1998-02-11 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Sat, 7 Feb 1998, Ralph Winslow wrote:

 William R. Ward wrote:
  In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],  Raymond A. Ingles [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
The UPS-HOWTO has a lot of info about using a UPS under Linux. I'd check
   there before returning it. I know that genpowerd is pretty flexible and
   can be configured to support almost any UPS.
  
  The UPS-HOWTO does not mention my brand.  I even did a web search and
  found nothing, Linux or otherwise, about my UPS.
 
 You might try doing this the hard way - [build your own cable, etc.]
 HTH, lots of Luck, e-mail if you get stuck.

 I'm afraid that Ralph is right. If no one has done the work before, 
you'll have to make it work yourself. Vigorous questioning of the 
manufacturer may help...

 Sincerely,

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[General Q] Filtering mail from IMAP server with procmail

1998-02-11 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
Sorry for this non Debian question.  I usually find that my questions to
this mailing list get answered very fast.

My mail is stored on a remote IMAP server.  How do I use procmail to
filter my mail?  The documentation on procmail that I have read applies
to mail on the local system (ie. /var/spool/mail).  I am planning to use
pine as the MUA and procmail to filter.

Help / pointers would be appreciated.

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nmh configuration

1998-02-11 Thread David Stern
Hi,

I've got a hamm system running with smail(3.2.0.100-4), exmh(2.0-1), 
and would like to configure nmh(0.17-1) so that it uses smail as the 
local SMTP server (called by inetd), as was implemented in my bo 
system.  I specifically do NOT want nmh to act as the SMTP server, 
because I have a custom smail transport which rewrites From: headers 
(thanks Daniel), which I wish to retain, as this works across all mail 
clients.

When I run smail -bv -v kotsya | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm deliverable, however when I attempt 
to deliver mail by nmh using send -snoop test, with variations on 
servers: localhost.localdomain in my /etc/nmh/mts.conf, all mail is 
undeliverable:

-
= 220-localhost.localdomain Smail-3.2.0.100 (#2 1998-Jan-13) ready at 
Tue, 10 Feb 1998 17:04:16 + (/etc/localtime)
= 220 ESMTP supported
= EHLO localhost.localdomain
= 250-localhost.localdomain Hello localhost.localdomain 
([EMAIL PROTECTED] from address [127.0.0.1]), here's what we 
support:
= 250-EXPN
= 250-SIZE 10485760
= 250-8BITMIME
= 250-PIPELINING
= 250 HELP
= MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
= 450 defer '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', sender address target 
'localhost.localdomain' cannot be verified at this time: 
verify_sender(): BIND server failure: : Connection refused. (Try again 
later)
= RSET
= 250 Reset state
= QUIT
= 221 localhost.localdomain closing connection
post: problem initializing server; [RPLY] 450 defer 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]', sender address target 
'localhost.localdomain' cannot be verified at this time: 
verify_sender(): BIND server failure: : Connection refused. (Try again 
later)
send: message not delivered to anyone
-

It's my understanding that there are two ways to compile nmh, either 
with SMTP over TCP or SMTP over a pipe.  In an attempt to alleviate 
that contention, I've tried setting sendmail: /usr/sbin/smail in my 
/etc/nmh/mts.conf as shown in the man page, to no avail.  In fact, 
setting this param, restarting smail and inetd, has no effect.  I've 
also setup an /etc/hosts file as shown in the man page.  
Coincidentally, the spost command is also missing from the nmh .deb, 
yet the nmh developer has told me it exists.

Has the ability for nmh to pass along SMTP duties to sendmail/smail 
been disincluded from the nmh .deb?  If so, and since my bo smail/MH 
system worked, this would make the claim that nmh is a drop-in 
replacement for MH (as told in the man page) disingenuous (even if 
technically it is configurable at compile time, because binary 
distribution is most prevalent), therefore I would suggest the nmh .deb 
first include the spost command, and then share a common method for 
SMTP duties with MH.  Only then will nmh truly be a drop-in 
replacement for MH for Debian.

For now I specify my ISP's smarthost in servers:, but this breaks 
local mail delivery.  How can I configure nmh to call on smail for SMTP 
duties?

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RE: /usr/spool and related links...

1998-02-11 Thread Kristian Strickland
Hi,

In all fairness to the authors, is it accurate to call a program's
incorrect behaviour a bug when the incorrect behaviour is caused be the
standards being changed _after_ the software was released?
Fine, I agree that using the bug-reporting channel is a useful way
to send notice of what should be changed, but liberally describing programs
as buggy, in this case, isn't fair.
Remember, in the days of UNIX past, those symlinks were put in to make
software compatible, because every vendor was doing something unique.  The
FHS is just another attempt to make all our programs compatible.  (I make no
statement about which is better!)
 
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Modem

1998-02-11 Thread Pete Poff
Dear Supporters,
I have the program minicom on my computer and I need to know how to
tell what the name of my modem is under the /dev or how I can find it.
The default that came with the program was something like /dev/cua1 but it
couldn't find that file name.  Also can any of you tell me where I can get
the pico editer program?

Thanks,
Pete Poff


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rpc.portmap, ethernet-card prob

1998-02-11 Thread Florian Attenbergerhphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Hi,

My rpc.portmap is away (/usr/sbin/rpc.portmap) and I don't know, why.
What is its use??
How can I get it again?

I have no /dev/eth0:
Because the CARD is not correct installed

or

Do I have to create this file??(with mknod??)




thanx so much

florian attenberger


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Re: Modem

1998-02-11 Thread Jeremy Tregunna

On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Pete Poff wrote:

 Dear Supporters,
 I have the program minicom on my computer and I need to know how to
 tell what the name of my modem is under the /dev or how I can find it.
 The default that came with the program was something like /dev/cua1 but it
 couldn't find that file name.

run:
 minicom -s
then config your serial port.

 Also can any of you tell me where I can get the pico editer program?
 

vi is a better editor, but, if you must have pico, you can download it at:
ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/non-free/binary/pico_3.96L-2.deb (bo)

or at:
ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/hamm/non-free/binary-i386/editors/pico_3.96L-2.deb
(hamm)

 Thanks,
 Pete Poff
 
 

Not a problem.

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Re: Modem

1998-02-11 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 The device equivalent to /dev/cua1 is /dev/ttyS2.  (In linux,
as in other unices, the serial device numbering starts at 0, so
/dev/ttyS1 is the same serial port as COM2 in DOS.)

 The use of the /dev/cua? devices is deprecated, I believe because of
locking inconsistencies.

Bob
 
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 Pete Poff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Dear Supporters,
 I have the program minicom on my computer and I need to know how to
 tell what the name of my modem is under the /dev or how I can find it.
 The default that came with the program was something like /dev/cua1 but it
 couldn't find that file name.  Also can any of you tell me where I can get
 the pico editer program?


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RE: /usr/spool and related links...

1998-02-11 Thread Colin R. Telmer
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Kristian Strickland wrote:

   In all fairness to the authors, is it accurate to call a program's
 incorrect behaviour a bug when the incorrect behaviour is caused be the
 standards being changed _after_ the software was released?

Actually, your statement is incorrect (IMHO). Software that is, for
example developed for another *nix os and is restructured by a debian
maintainer to fit our policy, does not have to adhere to our standards at
any point in time (before of after the release). Bugs here are meant to
imply bugs with the debian system. This statement includes upstream bugs.
To the average user, they may not know where the bug came from (i.e. the
debian maintainer or upstream). Within debian, it's a bug. If it is an
upstream bug, we helpfully pass it on (even perhaps with a patch). If it
is just due to our packaging, then we take care of it. Upstream authors
realize this (perhaps we should put a loud statement at the top of our bug
tracking system to clarify that we could just as easily be responsible for
the bug). Anyway, I think it is a whole lot easier letting users file
everything as bugs and have us sort out the details. 

I do agree with you, but there doesn't seem to be a better solution.

Cheers, Colin.

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Re: UPS again

1998-02-11 Thread William R. Ward
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Like a dummy, I bought a UPS without bothering to check if genpowerd
 supports it (I don't think it does).  But before taking it back (I
 believe I have a week to do so and it's real stormy now, so I'm glad
 to have it anyway), I wanted to ask if anyone knew if I could do
 anything with it.
 
 I bought a MinuteMan 280 Pro UPS.  It looks like it has smart
 features but does not come with a cable or software.  It is made by
 Para Systems.  Is there any Linux software that'll talk to this beast?

 As far as I know, the only package that supports any kind of smart signalling
 is the apcd package (for APC systems, of course).

 If your UPS has a dumb-signalling mode, then you can probably build a cable
 that genpower can drive.  Beyond that, though, I can't help you.

They sell controller software for SCO Unix; is Debian
binary-compatible enough to run SCO binaries?  I seem to recall
hearing it is.  Barring that, I'll have to see if I can't talk them
out of the specs...

-Bill.

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Re: UPS again

1998-02-11 Thread William R. Ward
Yikes that sounds like a chore.  I hope it doesn't come to that.

--Bill.

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 William R. Ward wrote:
 
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],  Raymond A. Ingles [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 writes:
  On 5 Feb 1998, William R Ward wrote:
  Like a dummy, I bought a UPS without bothering to check if genpowerd
  supports it (I don't think it does).  But before taking it back (I
  believe I have a week to do so and it's real stormy now, so I'm glad
  to have it anyway), I wanted to ask if anyone knew if I could do
  anything with it.
 
  I bought a MinuteMan 280 Pro UPS.  It looks like it has smart
  features but does not come with a cable or software.  It is made by
  Para Systems.  Is there any Linux software that'll talk to this beast?
 
   The UPS-HOWTO has a lot of info about using a UPS under Linux. I'd check
  there before returning it. I know that genpowerd is pretty flexible and
  can be configured to support almost any UPS.
 
 The UPS-HOWTO does not mention my brand.  I even did a web search and
 found nothing, Linux or otherwise, about my UPS.

 You might try doing this the hard way - turn off and unplug your
 UPS, get a plug that fits its control plug and wire a bundle of 
 wires keeping track of which wire goes to which pin, use a meter
 in ohmmeter mode to find the ground wire(s), bundle those, connect
 them to the meter ground probe, switch the meter to volts mode,
 plug in the UPS and note levels on other wires, allow UPS battery 
 to charge, unplu UPS and note levels on each wire, monitor levels
 on each wire while battery discharges, get a plug to fit one of 
 your free serial ports, wire the ground wire(s) from the UPS plug
 to the serial port ground wires, wire the appropriate signal wires
 from the UPS to the RTS, CTS, etc. lines of the serial port plug,
 write your own C or perl or tclsh/tk or ... program to do what
 you want, debianize the resultant package, use your imagination ...

 HTH, lots of Luck, e-mail if you get stuck.
 
 --Bill.
 
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Printers and printing

1998-02-11 Thread Robert LaGrasse
Hi Group,

Im new to Linux, so bear with me. A point in the right direction is all that
is required here -- well, maybe to spawn more questions.

I have a debian 1.3.1 system setup, and I'm running X with a fair amount of
success. I've decided to go ahead and install some applications, starting
with StarOffice, which I am very impressed with BTW. 

I attempted to print a document I created with StarOffice, but discovered I
only had a few post script printers available to me. I can only assume this
is because I don't have the proper printer drivers installed for my hardware
(an old HP laserjet plus, and a Canon BJC-620). So where do I get drivers
for the devices I do have, and how do I go about installing them...

Any help is appreciated.
Rob


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Re: Modem

1998-02-11 Thread Ruth Corran
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Pete Poff wrote:

 I have the program minicom on my computer and I need to know how to
 tell what the name of my modem is under the /dev or how I can find it.
 The default that came with the program was something like /dev/cua1 but it
 couldn't find that file name.



i found the information at 

http://www.grass.org/LDP/LDP/nag/node56.html

(a page called accessing serial devices from the 
network administrator's guide) helpful here...

i have been playing the same game, getting minicom to actually
find my modem, and just succeeded. however now although 
the modem will dial up, the connection is so slow that i 
get timed out before the login screen of my provider has
appeared! any hints from anyone out there?


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Re: Using hamm? READ THIS about /usr/spool and related links...

1998-02-11 Thread Nathan O. Siemers

Netscape outgoing mail may have broken due to this.

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Re: Modem /dev/cua vs /dev/ttyS

1998-02-11 Thread Steve Hsieh
Use of /dev/cua? may be deprecated, but I can't get scripts to work with
/dev/ttyS?, only /dev/cua?.  Can anone explain why?

For example, if you use the /usr/doc/ppp/examples/secure-card
expect script, it uses redirection to /dev/cua? to communicate with the
modem:

system stty 19200 -echoe -echo raw  /dev/cua3  /dev/cua3

If you change this to ttyS3 it will work once, but not again until you
reboot.  But /dev/cua? always works...


On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:

  The device equivalent to /dev/cua1 is /dev/ttyS2.  (In linux,
 as in other unices, the serial device numbering starts at 0, so
 /dev/ttyS1 is the same serial port as COM2 in DOS.)
 
  The use of the /dev/cua? devices is deprecated, I believe because of
 locking inconsistencies.
 
 Bob
  
 On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 Pete Poff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Dear Supporters,
  I have the program minicom on my computer and I need to know how to
  tell what the name of my modem is under the /dev or how I can find it.
  The default that came with the program was something like /dev/cua1 but it
  couldn't find that file name.  Also can any of you tell me where I can get
  the pico editer program?
 
 
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weird tcp/inetd problem

1998-02-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
My syslog is full of

Feb 11 16:30:13 yodeller nmbd[16708]: connect from dialup-2.rising.com.au
Feb 11 16:30:13 yodeller inetd[16659]: /usr/sbin/tcpd: exit status 0x1
Feb 11 16:30:14 yodeller nmbd[16709]: connect from dialup-2.rising.com.au
Feb 11 16:30:14 yodeller inetd[16659]: /usr/sbin/tcpd: exit status 0x1
Feb 11 16:30:15 yodeller nmbd[16710]: connect from dialup-2.rising.com.au
... etc, etc.

eventually followed by

Feb 11 16:30:17 yodeller inetd[16659]: netbios-ns/udp server failing (looping), 
service terminated 

/etc/hosts.allow lists that host both by domain (.rising.com.au)
and IP for that service; other services work fine.


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Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Tim Sailer
I guess I didn't explain real well the first time, although I enjoyed
the thread..

On this compute farm, they want to make changes to 1 machine, as in adding
a package, changing a config file, etc and having the resultant changes
reflected on the other 199 machines, without having to go to each
machine and tweak it. Installing the machines will be a short, but
intense process, but they are looking for long range admin solutions.

Thanks,
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Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Steve Hsieh
If they are all pretty similar configs, then it sounds like a very easy
solution is to use rdist or rsync.


On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:

 I guess I didn't explain real well the first time, although I enjoyed
 the thread..
 
 On this compute farm, they want to make changes to 1 machine, as in adding
 a package, changing a config file, etc and having the resultant changes
 reflected on the other 199 machines, without having to go to each
 machine and tweak it. Installing the machines will be a short, but
 intense process, but they are looking for long range admin solutions.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: rpc.portmap, ethernet-card prob

1998-02-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 02:51:58AM +0100, Florian 
Attenbergerhphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de wrote:
 My rpc.portmap is away (/usr/sbin/rpc.portmap) and I don't know, why.
 What is its use??
 How can I get it again?
 
 I have no /dev/eth0:
 Because the CARD is not correct installed
 
 or
 
 Do I have to create this file??(with mknod??)

Network devices do not have entries in /dev. The portmapper is used
for some RPC services like NFS; what do you mean it is away?


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Re: libc5 (not libc6) by default? (was: CDE)

1998-02-11 Thread Carey Evans
Alex Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm sure there is not the problem that the package is not *.deb.
 The problem here is that it was not linked with specific major version
 of libc. If you try to do ldd /path/to/some/CDE/executable/or/library
 I bet that you'll get dependence on libc6. Same thing happens to my
 Motif: libXm.so.2.0 seems to depend on libc6 while both of them used
 libc5 headers. 
 
 The solution is to configure shared lib loader to use libc5 by default.
 If somebody can tell me how to do it, I would be very gratefull.

Two things you can try:

1. Put /usr/X11R6/lib right at the end of /etc/ld.so.conf.  (Is this
   done in the upgrade process?  I'm sure it's made things work for me 
   that didn't previously.)

2. Check for the path hardcoded into the binary; try:

  strings /path/to/dtlogin | grep '/usr/X11R6/lib'

   Nothing should be printed.  This caused a problem with the Debian
   packages of fvwm2 and other programs a few months ago.

I don't know how you'll get it to load libc5 by default; I haven't had 
this problem.

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Re: UPS again

1998-02-11 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William R. Ward) (William R. Ward) (William R. Ward) 
(William R. Ward) (William R. Ward) writes:

 They sell controller software for SCO Unix; is Debian
 binary-compatible enough to run SCO binaries?  I seem to recall
 hearing it is.  Barring that, I'll have to see if I can't talk them
 out of the specs...

Using iBCS you can run a lot of programs for particular versions of
SCO Unix.  If it's a driver you might have less luck.  (You could see
if objdump can disassemble it, but you didn't hear that from me...)

ibcs is a Debian package.  See if you can get a demo copy of the
controller software to try out.

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Re: Compiling w/shadow support

1998-02-11 Thread Carey Evans
Mark A. Bialik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've recently switched over to Debian, and have shadow support installed. I
 seem to have a reacurring problem when I need to compile my own software.
 I've figured out that I need to add -I/usr/src/linux/include to many of my
 CFLAGS,

There should be very few packages you need to do this for.  Is this
plain Debian 1.3.1?

 but when the make gets down to the -lshadow area, ld dies with the old:
 
 ld: cannot open -lshadow: No such file or directory

Try leaving it out, or using -lcrypt.  The latter is for libc6, IIRC.

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Re: rpc.portmap, ethernet-card prob

1998-02-11 Thread Carey Evans
Florian Attenbergerhphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 My rpc.portmap is away (/usr/sbin/rpc.portmap) and I don't know, why.
 What is its use??
 How can I get it again?

rpc.portmap moved to portmap recently in unstable.  It's generally
only used for NFS on most systems.

 I have no /dev/eth0:
 Because the CARD is not correct installed

Linux has never used devices in /dev/ for networking.  You use
/sbin/ifconfig to find out about your card, etc.

 Do I have to create this file??(with mknod??)

You should use /dev/MAKEDEV to create new devices, in any case.

(BTW, I think your '?' key is sticking.)

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Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:

 I guess I didn't explain real well the first time, although I enjoyed
 the thread..

 On this compute farm, they want to make changes to 1 machine, as in
 adding a package, changing a config file, etc and having the resultant
 changes reflected on the other 199 machines, without having to go
 to each machine and tweak it. Installing the machines will be a
 short, but intense process, but they are looking for long range admin
 solutions.

isn't this sort of thing precisely what cfengine is for? cfengine is available 
as a debian package.

rdist/rsync/ssh can also be useful for remote admin too...


BTW, what makes them think that RH can do this any easier than debian?


looks like cfengine is orphaned at the momentit has been updated to
libc6 already, though.


/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386$ dpkg -I admin/cfengine_1.3.19-2.deb 
 new debian package, version 2.0.
 size 229684 bytes: control archive= 1078 bytes.
  79 bytes, 3 lines   *  conffiles
 818 bytes,21 lines  control  
 665 bytes,21 lines   *  postinst #!/bin/sh
  90 bytes, 7 lines   *  prerm#!/bin/sh
 Package: cfengine
 Version: 1.3.19-2
 Section: admin
 Priority: optional
 Architecture: i386
 Depends: libc6
 Installed-Size: 428
 Maintainer: (orphaned)
 Description: A tool for configuring and maintaining network machines
  The main purpose of cfengine is to allow the system administrator
  to create a single central file which will define how every host
  on a network should be configured.
  .
  cfengine is also useful as an interpreter for a general scripting
  language for ordinary users.  It is handy for tidying up junk files
  and for maintaining `watchdog' scripts to manage access rights and
  permissions on files when collaborating with other users.
  .
  It takes a while to set up cfengine for a network (especially an
  already existing network), but once that is done you will wonder
  how you ever lived without it!

craig

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Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Lindsay Allen

Tim,

IIRC Brian White has advocated cfengine for this task.

HTH

Lindsay

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On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:

 I guess I didn't explain real well the first time, although I enjoyed
 the thread..
 
 On this compute farm, they want to make changes to 1 machine, as in adding
 a package, changing a config file, etc and having the resultant changes
 reflected on the other 199 machines, without having to go to each
 machine and tweak it. Installing the machines will be a short, but
 intense process, but they are looking for long range admin solutions.
 
 Thanks,
 Tim
 
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cdwrite and cd writers

1998-02-11 Thread mfrattola
Hi all,
not really a debian question, so please excuse me if someone's bothered.
Is there any other SCSI cd writer supported by cdwrite (I have 2.0, any new
release?) except hp, yamaha, philips and kodak? I have a teac r55s and it seems
it's not supported. Is it really unsupported? Since it's so difficult to find 
external SCSI writers, I'd like to knmow it before I return the writer.
Yamaha looks like the only other chance available here. Any advice/model to 
avoid?

thanks for your time.
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Want to spice-up your web-cam?

1998-02-11 Thread Holly Woodsen
Now you can really catch the eye of your web visitors!  Make your
webcam really move! Give your visitors the ability to aim your
webcam at almost anything within a wide field of view.

Using the VideAll, visitors to you webcam site can remotely aim
your webcam using the arrow keys on their own keyboard!  This
technology is commercially available now at a reasonable price!
The VideAll computer-controlled pan-tilt device makes it possible.
A HREF=http://members.aol.com/videall;VideAll/A


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1998-02-11 Thread NOWHERE

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Re: Printers and printing

1998-02-11 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert LaGrasse) writes:

 I attempted to print a document I created with StarOffice, but discovered I
 only had a few post script printers available to me. I can only assume this
 is because I don't have the proper printer drivers installed for my hardware
 (an old HP laserjet plus, and a Canon BJC-620). So where do I get drivers
 for the devices I do have, and how do I go about installing them...

Install gs (maybe the version in non-free) and magicfilter and you
should be able to use any printer as a Postscript printer.

Doesn't StarOffice support PCL5 printers itself?  You should be able
to print to an HP LaserJet with this anyway.

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Re: Modem

1998-02-11 Thread Carey Evans
Ruth Corran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 i have been playing the same game, getting minicom to actually
 find my modem, and just succeeded. however now although 
 the modem will dial up, the connection is so slow that i 
 get timed out before the login screen of my provider has
 appeared! any hints from anyone out there?

This can be caused by IRQ conflicts.  Does the AT prompt come up
immediately after you type OK and Enter?  Does cat
/proc/interrupts while minicom is running show a large number for
serial?

Is minicom set to a high enough speed?

You might want to look at /etc/rc.boot/0setserial.

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PPP problems still

1998-02-11 Thread Charles
Hello,
I am probably getting on peoples nerves, but I still dont have my
ppp working on my linux box.  I have followed the howto's and have tried
what advice has been given me.  None of this has worked so far. :(
So I am still hoping that someone can shed some light on what I am doing
wrong.  I am enclosing the files that are needed to determine what is
going on inside my system.  It is a micron 166, 32M RAM, Supra 288i
internal PnP modem, the rest is fairly irrelevant.  I would also like to
know if anyone knows how to compress an Iomega Zip-Disk in linux, as I
would like to utilize my zip's for backing up files.  At this point, any
help at all is appreciated.  I also have a line in my options file, that
calls to a file named ppp-connect in /etc/ppp  however, I do not have
this file.  Could this be my main problem at this point?  I have
configured my kernel, hopefully correctly.  When I enter pon, or pppd,
nothing happens, my modem is not even initialized.  If I cannot get this
working, then I will be stuck searching for another OS, but would really
like to use linux, since I like the options it makes available.  Thanks
for your patience and any help that can be offered.
Feb 10 21:07:54 charles kernel: PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation) 
Feb 10 21:07:54 charles kernel: PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 
1995 Caldera, Inc. 
Feb 10 21:07:54 charles kernel: PPP line discipline registered. 
Feb 10 21:07:54 charles kernel: SLIP: version 0.8.4-NET3.019-NEWTTY-MODULAR 
(dynamic channels, max=256). 
Feb 10 21:07:54 charles kernel: SLIP linefill/keepalive option. 
Feb 10 21:07:54 charles kernel: Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial 
options enabled 
Feb 10 21:07:54 charles kernel: tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A 
Feb 10 21:07:56 charles kernel: registered device ppp0 
# /etc/ppp/options
debug
/dev/ttyS3
38400
modem
crtscts
lock
connect /etc/ppp/ppp-connect
asyncmap 0
defaultroute# If you need to set up multiple serial lines then copy 
# this file to
# options.ttyname for each tty with a modem on it.
#
# The options.tty file will assign an IP address to each PPP connection
# as it comes up. They must all be distinct!
#
# Example:
# options.ttyS1 for com2 under DOS.
#
# Edit the following line so that the first IP address
# mentioned is the ip address of the serial port while the second
# is the IP address of your host
#
# I usually use the convention os + dash + last 2 character of
# the ttyname to refer to serial ports.
# For example servername_s1 for ttyS1 on server servername

207.50.128.2:207.50.128.3

ABORTBUSY
ABORTNO CARRIER
ABORTVOICE
ABORTNO DIALTONE
   ATZ
OK   ATDT3731501
CONNECT  \d\c
# This is a pap-secrets file to be used with the AUTO_PPP function of mgetty
# mgetty-0.99 is preconfigured to startup pppd with the login option which
# will cause pppd to consult /etc/passwd after a user has passed this file
# Dont be disturbed therfore by the fact that this file defines logins with
# any password for users. /etc/passwd will catch passwd mismatches.
#
# This file should block ALL users that should not be able to do AUTO_PPP!
# AUTO_PPP bypasses the usual login program so its necessary to list all
# system userids with regular passwords here!
#
# ATTENTION: The definitions here can allow users to login without a
# password if you dont use the login option of pppd!
# The /etc/ppp/options file installed has the login option enabled

# INBOUND connections

# Every regular user can use PPP and has to use passwords from /etc/passwd
*   os  

# UserIDs that cannot use PPP at all. Check your /etc/passwd and add any
# other accounts that should not be able to use pppd!
guest   os  * -
master  os  * -
rootos  * -
support os  * -
stats   os  * -

# OUTBOUND connections
# 3731501

# Here you should add your userid password to connect to your providers via
# pap. The * means that the password is to be used for ANY host you connect
# to. Thus you do not have to worry about the foreign machine name. Just
# replace password with your password.
# If you have different providers with different passwords then you better
# remove the following line.

myusername  *  mypass
Feb 10 21:07:56 charles pppd[100]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Feb 10 21:07:56 charles pppd[100]: tcgetattr: I/O error
Feb 10 21:07:56 charles pppd[100]: Exit.
Feb 10 21:08:35 charles pppd[116]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Feb 10 21:08:35 charles pppd[116]: tcgetattr: I/O error
Feb 10 21:08:35 charles pppd[116]: Exit.
defaultroute /dev/ttyS3 38400 persist noipdefault debug
#/etc/ppp/ppp-chat
ABORT busy
 ATF\r
OK ATD2C1\r
OK ATDT3731501\r
ogin myusername\r
sword mypass\r

xmkmf and imake

1998-02-11 Thread Ryan Tracey
Hi

Which package does xmkmf come with. I used to have it on an unstable
Debian installation, however, since re-installing and using the stable
installation I can longer find it - I'm pretty sure I installed all the
packages I had with the unstable one.

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apache .htaccess seem not to be read

1998-02-11 Thread Tony
Hello,

I have been trying to configure apache to have a few password protected 
directories. I have .htaccess files in the directories that worked with my 
previous installation, but seem not to with the default debian config files. 
Is there an extra directive I should be adding to the /etc/apache/*.conf 's?

Thanks

Tony


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Re: rpc.portmap, ethernet-card prob

1998-02-11 Thread Florian Attenberger
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 02:51:58AM +0100, Florian 
 Attenbergerhphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de wrote:
  My rpc.portmap is away (/usr/sbin/rpc.portmap) and I don't know, why.
  What is its use??
  How can I get it again?
  
  I have no /dev/eth0:
  Because the CARD is not correct installed
  
  or
  
  Do I have to create this file??(with mknod??)
 
 Network devices do not have entries in /dev. The portmapper is used
 for some RPC services like NFS; what do you mean it is away?
 
 
When i had Debian 1.3 installed rpc.portmap did not exist, when I first
looked for it, but this did not matter (maybe because i dont use nfs)

Some days ago I totally reinstalled debian 1.3.1 and rpc.portmap DID
exist.
Then I updated completely to the unstable release and noticed that it was
away
(BTW:  I`ve installed the network packages).

My ethernet card driver seems to be correctly installed.

At bootup there are some error-messages, saying, that network service was
not available.

I can send you the exact error-message later
(I can`t now because I`m not at home)

Anyway

Thank you very much

florian attenberger 



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Re: xmkmf and imake

1998-02-11 Thread jdassen
On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 11:12:08AM +0200, Ryan Tracey wrote:
 Which package does xmkmf come with.

For unstable, it's in xlib6g-dev; for stable, it's in xlib6-dev.

HTH,
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Re: PPP problems still

1998-02-11 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Feb 10 21:07:56 charles pppd[100]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
 Feb 10 21:07:56 charles pppd[100]: tcgetattr: I/O error
 Feb 10 21:07:56 charles pppd[100]: Exit.
 Feb 10 21:08:35 charles pppd[116]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
 Feb 10 21:08:35 charles pppd[116]: tcgetattr: I/O error
 Feb 10 21:08:35 charles pppd[116]: Exit.

Don't know if I already said this, but I once had this error when used the
same IRQ for my network card and the com port by mistake.

You have a PnP modem. So you have to use ispnptools to configure it. Check
if you set the modem to available values for IRQ and I/O in
/etc/isapnp.conf and have enabled the (ACT Y) line.

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Re: nmh configuration

1998-02-11 Thread Martin Bialasinski
David Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've got a hamm system running with smail(3.2.0.100-4), exmh(2.0-1), 

 = 450 defer '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', sender address target 
 'localhost.localdomain' cannot be verified at this time: 
 verify_sender(): BIND server failure: : Connection refused. (Try again 
 later)

smail 3.2.100 has introduced some anti-spam measures. One of these is
checking the sender. Unfortunatly this will cause trouble on a typical
dialup box.

Downgrade smail to the one in bo until there is a new smail which handles
this case reasonable.

I think you could also install your own DNS server who will resolve your
localhost.localdomain. 

Ciao,
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Re: rpc.portmap, ethernet-card prob

1998-02-11 Thread Florian Attenberger
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 02:51:58AM +0100, Florian 
 Attenbergerhphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de wrote:
  My rpc.portmap is away (/usr/sbin/rpc.portmap) and I don't know, why.
  What is its use??
  How can I get it again?
  
  I have no /dev/eth0:
  Because the CARD is not correct installed
  
  or
  
  Do I have to create this file??(with mknod??)
 
 Network devices do not have entries in /dev. The portmapper is used
 for some RPC services like NFS; what do you mean it is away?
 
I think it was my error
I think the /etc/init.d/* files where not updated, when I updated to
debian 2.0 (The files are still looking for rpc.portmap instead of
portmap, as its name is in the new release

Maybe the new network packeges should care about this problem

thanx 

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how to update

1998-02-11 Thread Martin Pelikan
Hi,

what is the fastest way to update from libc5 to libc6? Many packages are
dependent on these libraries and I have no debian CD, everything I do I
use ftp or www. It would be enough if I could get all the packages I
need to update everything I guess. But I cannot see other way of doing
this as to follow the dependency tree of packages and that could take
quite a long time to get this working again.

could anyone help me?

Martin


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Re: rpc.portmap, ethernet-card prob

1998-02-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 10:57:29AM +0100, Florian Attenberger wrote:
 I think the /etc/init.d/* files where not updated, when I updated to
 debian 2.0 (The files are still looking for rpc.portmap instead of
 portmap, as its name is in the new release
 
 Maybe the new network packeges should care about this problem

When you upgrade the package, dpkg/dselect will ask you if you want
to replace the configuration files (the scripts in /etc/init.d
are configuration files) if you have changed them at all. If you say
no then you have to make the appropriate changes yourself.


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Re: cdwrite and cd writers

1998-02-11 Thread Leszek Gerwatowski


 Hi all, not really a debian question, so please excuse me if someone's
 bothered.  Is there any other SCSI cd writer supported by cdwrite (I have
 2.0, any new release?) except hp, yamaha, philips and kodak? I have a
 teac r55s and it seems it's not supported. Is it really unsupported?
 Since it's so difficult to find external SCSI writers, I'd like to knmow
 it before I return the writer.  Yamaha looks like the only other chance
 available here. Any advice/model to avoid? 

First of all don't use cdwrite but cdrecord. Cdwrite isn't supported since
2 years and author wrote that i wiil be no further version. Cdrecord is
new program (and much better) and best of all it supports your CD-Recorder
(since version 1.6a9). Cdrecord's homepage is at:

http://www.fokus.gmd.de/nthp/employees/schilling/cdrecord.html

Good luck!

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Re: curiosity

1998-02-11 Thread Jens Ritter
creative [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This is just a curiosity...
 I have debian 1.3.1.r6
 
 when is going to be a new realise? that is almost 4 months old
 I see lot of programs that need an update...

The new release (on CD) will take a while, to come out. 

As far as I know, a code freeze isn`t scheduled yet. After a freeze it
will take at least 4 weeks for debugging, + four weeks of generating
the Official CD images an distribution. (Infos from Christian
Leutloff, who translated the installation manual for a german CD
release).

As the so called unstable matures more and more, you might want to consider
upgrading... 

HTH,

Jens

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Re: cdwrite and cd writers

1998-02-11 Thread Stefan Berndtsson
Leszek Gerwatowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi all, not really a debian question, so please excuse me if someone's
  bothered.  Is there any other SCSI cd writer supported by cdwrite (I have
  2.0, any new release?) except hp, yamaha, philips and kodak? I have a
  teac r55s and it seems it's not supported. Is it really unsupported?
  Since it's so difficult to find external SCSI writers, I'd like to knmow
  it before I return the writer.  Yamaha looks like the only other chance
  available here. Any advice/model to avoid? 
 
 First of all don't use cdwrite but cdrecord. Cdwrite isn't supported since
 2 years and author wrote that i wiil be no further version. Cdrecord is
 new program (and much better) and best of all it supports your CD-Recorder
 (since version 1.6a9). Cdrecord's homepage is at:
 
 http://www.fokus.gmd.de/nthp/employees/schilling/cdrecord.html

cdrecord (including 1.6a9) is using illegal code, which makes it impossible
to compile on all versions of linux.

small example, found in lib/format.c


va_list rargs;

rargs = va_arg(args, va_list);


this is possible on linux/x86 because va_list is a void *

on linux/ppc however, va_list is a struct, and handled by va_ppc.h
and this makes compilation fail. 

format() will need to be rewritten without a recursive use of va_list.

/Stefan


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Re: cdwrite and cd writers

1998-02-11 Thread Leszek Gerwatowski
On 11 Feb 1998, Stefan Berndtsson wrote:

 Leszek Gerwatowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Hi all, not really a debian question, so please excuse me if someone's
   bothered.  Is there any other SCSI cd writer supported by cdwrite (I have
   2.0, any new release?) except hp, yamaha, philips and kodak? I have a
   teac r55s and it seems it's not supported. Is it really unsupported?
   Since it's so difficult to find external SCSI writers, I'd like to knmow
   it before I return the writer.  Yamaha looks like the only other chance
   available here. Any advice/model to avoid? 
  
  First of all don't use cdwrite but cdrecord. Cdwrite isn't supported since
  2 years and author wrote that i wiil be no further version. Cdrecord is
  new program (and much better) and best of all it supports your CD-Recorder
  (since version 1.6a9). Cdrecord's homepage is at:
  
  http://www.fokus.gmd.de/nthp/employees/schilling/cdrecord.html
 
 cdrecord (including 1.6a9) is using illegal code, which makes it impossible
 to compile on all versions of linux.
 
 small example, found in lib/format.c
 
 
 va_list rargs;
 
 rargs = va_arg(args, va_list);
 
 
 this is possible on linux/x86 because va_list is a void *
 
 on linux/ppc however, va_list is a struct, and handled by va_ppc.h
 and this makes compilation fail. 
 
 format() will need to be rewritten without a recursive use of va_list.
 
 /Stefan
 

Yes - it uses illegal code but it works (on Linux x86 machine)!

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Re: how to update

1998-02-11 Thread Jens Ritter
Martin Pelikan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 what is the fastest way to update from libc5 to libc6? Many packages are
 dependent on these libraries and I have no debian CD, everything I do I
 use ftp or www. It would be enough if I could get all the packages I
 need to update everything I guess. But I cannot see other way of doing
 this as to follow the dependency tree of packages and that could take
 quite a long time to get this working again.
 
 could anyone help me?

This script can:
http://taz.net.au/autoup/

It downloads all required packages and installs them in the right order.

HTH,

Jens
 

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Re: Using hamm? READ THIS about /usr/spool and related links...

1998-02-11 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
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On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Colin R. Telmer wrote:

 Santiago: Will further future upgrades of base-files again remove the
 link? I would think that would be a good thing as it will root out buggy
 packages.

Actually, the package does not remove the symlink, it just does not
include it (a subtle difference :-). This means you can create the symlink
by hand and then it will be preserved (removing the symlink deliberately
would be too strong...)

If we are able to modify all our software to comply with the standards,
the symlinks will go away in the next Debian stable release (i.e.
base-files_2.0.0 will not include the symlinks, as now).

Being mostly FSSTND-compliant is a release goal for Debian 2.0 (it was
already a release goal for Debian 1.3, just that we didn't remove the
symlinks in bo when bo was unstable, so we didn't find the bugs). If you
report a bug on this, you may tag it as important by adding the
following pseudoheader:

Severity: important

in the bug report.

Thanks.

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Re: samba/win95

1998-02-11 Thread Antonio Doldo
At 14.56 10/02/98 -0500, Paul Miller wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Antonio Doldo wrote:

 At 22.42 07/02/98 -0500, Paul Miller wrote:
 When I set samba to USER mode, it doesn't accept passwords from windows
 machines.. It works from linux machines..  I'm using encrypted password
 and the lastest samba release.
 
 
 I believe that the problem is simply in the login in win95 network
 (netbeui, ipx/spx,
 TCP/IP) because the line 'security=user' in the smb.conf presume
 that the account on the server samba must be identical on both machines.

I don't think the protocol changes in the security setting is changed.  My
Linux box currently doesn't even support ipx.. and I don't know about
netbeui...

In the windows machines usually are used two protocols:
IPX/SPX and NetBEUI for connecting the MS network, while for samba is
request the stacks TCP/IP.
In the Linux box must be installed the TCP/IP (naturally), but when you
login in a box with the name 'paul' and try

/home/paul/$ smbclient -L my_host

samba identify 'paul' and the 'homes' share is the home of
paul (/home/paul)

therefore if you use a login_name in a windows pc as 'paul'
you can be access to the listing of shares resources, otherwise
no.
whith security=share instead the community can view (only VIEW)
the resources.

If you want limitate the access from other networks can use

allow hosts = 193.xxx. 141.xxx.


 perhaps there is another possibility: you can use the username.map
 in the samba config

What is username.map?  Is it where samba checks the password against a
list of valid users?  That doesn't sound too secure.

I non use the username.map, but I believe is a file that contain the name
conversions between PC and U*ix
-Paul



I hope is satisfactory

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Re: cdwrite and cd writers

1998-02-11 Thread Stefan Berndtsson
Leszek Gerwatowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  cdrecord (including 1.6a9) is using illegal code, which makes it impossible
  to compile on all versions of linux.
  
  small example, found in lib/format.c
  
  
  va_list rargs;
  
  rargs = va_arg(args, va_list);
  
  
  this is possible on linux/x86 because va_list is a void *
  
  on linux/ppc however, va_list is a struct, and handled by va_ppc.h
  and this makes compilation fail. 
  
  format() will need to be rewritten without a recursive use of va_list.
  
  /Stefan
  
 
 Yes - it uses illegal code but it works (on Linux x86 machine)!

yes, and Linux/x86 isn't the entire world, and Debian isn't a project
for Linux/x86 exclusively.

That kind of attitude makes me truly sick..

/Stefan


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Re: libc5 (not libc6) by default? (was: CDE)

1998-02-11 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Alex Yukhimets wrote:

  I just tried installing the RedHat CDE package into a Debian unstable
  system.  It was compiled with an oldish version of libc5 and not libc6
  which the unstable release is based on.  I was successful in
  converting the rpm files to deb files using alien.  Unfortunately,
  when I tried to start CDE using dtlogin, I received a core dump.  I
  received no response from RedHat technical support.
  
 I'm sure there is not the problem that the package is not *.deb.
 The problem here is that it was not linked with specific major version
 of libc. If you try to do ldd /path/to/some/CDE/executable/or/library
 I bet that you'll get dependence on libc6. Same thing happens to my
 Motif: libXm.so.2.0 seems to depend on libc6 while both of them used
 libc5 headers. 
 
 The solution is to configure shared lib loader to use libc5 by default.
 If somebody can tell me how to do it, I would be very gratefull.

No that wasn't the problem.  ldd does show a dependency on libc5.

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Re: cdwrite and cd writers

1998-02-11 Thread Leszek Gerwatowski
On 11 Feb 1998, Stefan Berndtsson wrote:

 Leszek Gerwatowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   cdrecord (including 1.6a9) is using illegal code, which makes it 
   impossible
   to compile on all versions of linux.
[...]
  
  Yes - it uses illegal code but it works (on Linux x86 machine)!
 
 yes, and Linux/x86 isn't the entire world, and Debian isn't a project
 for Linux/x86 exclusively.
 
 That kind of attitude makes me truly sick..
 

Don't be so sick :-) IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE it's better to have working
program than to change CD-Recorder (I assume that this person runs Linux
on x86). And it sounds good that someone is supporting this piece of
hardware (and in future propably it will be supported).

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Debian 2.0

1998-02-11 Thread Fredrik Ax

Since I'm going to set up a couple of Linux hosts
in the near future I wonder if there is a release
date (fix or approximate) set for Debian 2.0?

If not, how long will it maximum take before 
testing etc. is done?

TIA
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Re: Emacs Menu/Scrollbar Color

1998-02-11 Thread Frank Barknecht
Stefan Baums hat gesagt: // Stefan Baums wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'd like to use GNU Emacs under X with a black background and white 
 foreground.
 The problem is, this should be true of the menubar as well, but Xresources
 background  foreground don't do the job. (It's possible, though: I saw a
 screenshot.) And can I set the scrollbar color separately? (This seems to be 
 an
 unrelated problem: the aforementioned Xresources _do_ affect the scrollbar.) I
 couldn't find the relevant information in the man pages or info documents. Any
 ideas?

I have a similar setup. Here it is:

~/.Xresources:

Emacs.font: lucidasanstypewriter-bold-12- this is my fav. font
Emacs*Background: grey90- and the window background is
   grey (you would like 
black...)
Emacs*menubar.foreground: gold1 - menubar fore and
Emacs*menubar.background: RoyalBlueback colors
Emacs*menu*.foreground: RoyalBlue   - switched for the font menu 
you
Emacs*menu*.background: gold1  get with Strg-Mouse-1

Play with editres to try what you like best...

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RE: /usr/spool and related links...

1998-02-11 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
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On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Kristian Strickland wrote:

   In all fairness to the authors, is it accurate to call a program's
 incorrect behaviour a bug when the incorrect behaviour is caused be the
 standards being changed _after_ the software was released?

Hi. Remember that Debian 2.0 has not been released yet...
As Colin Telmer has already pointed out, these are bugs in the Debian sense.

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Installing with low RAM

1998-02-11 Thread mr anonym
I need help from someone that has installed Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 with
low RAM! 


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Re: StarOffice and Debian (2)

1998-02-11 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
Hi

Dou you know how to update the menus in fvwm2 in order to
incorporate Star Office 4?

I already put in ~/.fvwm2/main-menu-pre.hook the line

+ StarOffice Exec soffice

but I would like to put it in the main menu (maybe in the Shells
section).

Thank you.


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AGP Video

1998-02-11 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

What AGP cards are being used successfully with X?  Specifically, I'm
considering the Matrox Millenium II AGP.

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Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Tim Sailer
Craig Sanders wrote:
 
 On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:
 
  I guess I didn't explain real well the first time, although I enjoyed
  the thread..
 
  On this compute farm, they want to make changes to 1 machine, as in
  adding a package, changing a config file, etc and having the resultant
  changes reflected on the other 199 machines, without having to go
  to each machine and tweak it. Installing the machines will be a
  short, but intense process, but they are looking for long range admin
  solutions.
 
 isn't this sort of thing precisely what cfengine is for? cfengine is 
 available as a debian package.

Doh! I knew there was something out there to do this. That's why I asked
the list. Looks like my brain is full.. when something new goes in, 
something old leaks out.. :)

 rdist/rsync/ssh can also be useful for remote admin too...
 
 
 BTW, what makes them think that RH can do this any easier than debian?

I have no idea. The guy who is spouting that nonsense is considered
a 'loose canon', but he's very vocal, and attracted a lot of attention.

[clip]

  Description: A tool for configuring and maintaining network machines
   The main purpose of cfengine is to allow the system administrator
   to create a single central file which will define how every host
   on a network should be configured.

This is exactly what they need I think.

Thanks to everyone for the pointers!

Tim

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Network

1998-02-11 Thread iquest
Hi,

  I'm fairly new in setup network.  I'd like to know is there
  any document that describe how to setup a network that has
  Linux, Windows/NT boxes.  I think

  I'd like to be able to share files, printers, CDROM, etc on
  all these machines.  Many thank in advance!


  I think that I've gotten my NIC driver loaded.  Here is the
  cat /prod/pci

---
8 ---

$ cat /proc/pci
PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device  15, function  0:
Ethernet controller: Realtek Unknown device (rev 0).
  Vendor id=10ec. Device id=8129.
  Medium devsel.  IRQ 9.  Master Capable.  Latency=96.  Min
Gnt=32.Max Lat=64.
  I/O at 0xf880.
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfeffec00.
  Bus  0, device  14, function  0:
VGA compatible controller: ATI 210888GX (rev 1).
  Medium devsel.  IRQ 170.
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x4000.
  Bus  0, device  13, function  0:
SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7871 (rev 0).
  Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 15.  Master
Capable.  Latency=96.  Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8.
  I/O at 0xfc00.
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfefff000.
  Bus  0, device   2, function  0:
Non-VGA device: Intel 82378IB (rev 3).
  Medium devsel.  Master Capable.  No bursts.
  Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
Host bridge: Intel 82434LX Mercury/Neptune (rev 17).
  Slow devsel.  Master Capable.  Latency=96.
---
8 ---

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Re: Network

1998-02-11 Thread Tim Sailer
iquest wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
   I'm fairly new in setup network.  I'd like to know is there
   any document that describe how to setup a network that has
   Linux, Windows/NT boxes.  I think
 
   I'd like to be able to share files, printers, CDROM, etc on
   all these machines.  Many thank in advance!

Load and configure samba on your Linux box, and make sure your
WindoesN'T box has TCP/IP running. You should be able to talk
back and forth with little problem. Unless you are running
one of the latest samba versions, you will have a problem with
password authentication from NT to samba. There is a patch (a registry
hack) to make NT use clear passwords floating around.

Tim

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Re: StarOffice and Debian (2)

1998-02-11 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On 11 Feb 1998, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote:

   Dou you know how to update the menus in fvwm2 in order to
 incorporate Star Office 4?

If you're using the menu package (see /usr/doc/menu), simply add an
entry for staroffice in /etc/menu.  If you don't have a Debian
package, you may need to masquerade under another package name.

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Re: [General Q] Filtering mail from IMAP server with procmail

1998-02-11 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
You should check out fetchmail - it connects to an IMAP or POP server
and retrieves your mail, then delivers it via SMTP to localhost;
essentially it takes mail on the server and causes it to become mail
on the local system, so that any filtering you then have on the local
system will work.

Sudhakar Chandrasekharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sorry for this non Debian question.  I usually find that my questions to
 this mailing list get answered very fast.
 
 My mail is stored on a remote IMAP server.  How do I use procmail to
 filter my mail?  The documentation on procmail that I have read applies
 to mail on the local system (ie. /var/spool/mail).  I am planning to use
 pine as the MUA and procmail to filter.
 
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Re: StarOffice and Debian (2)

1998-02-11 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 09:49:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On 11 Feb 1998, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote:

  Dou you know how to update the menus in fvwm2 in order to
 incorporate Star Office 4?

If you're using the menu package (see /usr/doc/menu), simply add an
entry for staroffice in /etc/menu.  If you don't have a Debian
package, you may need to masquerade under another package name.

-- 
Jean Pierre




I have puted in

 /usr/lib/menu/default/staroffice4

the following

 ?package(staroffice4):needs=x11 section=Apps/Shells icon=none
title=Star Office 4 command=/usr/bin/soffice

and then I have done

 update-menus

But that does not worked.

What is the problem? The fact that I say ?package(staroffice4) when
there is not any package staroffice4 instaled (i did the instalation
form the tar file)?

In file:/usr/doc/menu/html/ch2.html they speak about

--
You should add a line like this to your postinst and postrm script: 

  if test -x /usr/bin/update-menus; then update-menus; fi
--

where can I find the postinst and postrm scripts?

At\'e breve
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Re: cdwrite and cd writers

1998-02-11 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi Stefan,

 cdrecord (including 1.6a9) is using illegal code, which makes it impossible
 to compile on all versions of linux.
 
 small example, found in lib/format.c
 
 
 va_list rargs;
 
 rargs = va_arg(args, va_list);
 
 
 this is possible on linux/x86 because va_list is a void *
 
 on linux/ppc however, va_list is a struct, and handled by va_ppc.h
 and this makes compilation fail. 
 
 format() will need to be rewritten without a recursive use of va_list.

Is this being done (by cdrecord's upstream author J. Schilling, by
cdrecord's Debian package maintainer Erik Andersen, by one of the
Debian developers working on the ports to non-i386 platforms)?  What
do these people have to say about the situation?

You should open a bug against this package so that this problem can be
tracked.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: PPP problems still

1998-02-11 Thread David Wright
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Charles wrote:

 I am probably getting on peoples nerves, but I still dont have my
 ppp working on my linux box.  I have followed the howto's and have tried
 what advice has been given me.  None of this has worked so far. :(

I didn't find setting up PPP simple, partly because my circumstances are 
not quite standard. I wanted to set it up on my employer's internal 
phones, so all the machines have static IPs, ethernet cards etc., and I'm 
doing the serving as well as the clients. I also want callback available.

So I wrote down everything I did, which is attached (I hope), and may be 
encoded (I apologise for pine). My modem is external (USR sportster voice 
33.6).

 I would also like to
 know if anyone knows how to compress an Iomega Zip-Disk in linux, as I
 would like to utilize my zip's for backing up files.

A zip disk is just another disk in linux. I personally use zip (infozip) 
in preference to tar/gzip but that's partly familiarity. I also leave the 
zipdisks as DOS so I can restore files to, say, my wife's Windoze laptop.
The zipfilenames are 8.3, but that doesn't affect what's inside them.

 I also have a line in my options file, that
 calls to a file named ppp-connect in /etc/ppp  however, I do not have
 this file.  Could this be my main problem at this point?

Could well be.

 When I enter pon,

I've not used pon yet, though I'll probably move my scripts from ~ to /etc
when I'm happy with other people (in group dip) using them.

 If I cannot get this
 working, then I will be stuck searching for another OS, but would really
 like to use linux, since I like the options it makes available.  Thanks
 for your patience and any help that can be offered.

It's worth persevering. Cheers,

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Configuring manual PPP on my bo Debian GNU/Linux computers (both ends),
using mgetty's callback.

It's assumed that all the necessities (PPP, IP forwarding) are built into the
kernel and the packages are installed (ppp, mgetty, minicom).

Configure mgetty for your modem.
/etc/inittab needs an mgetty line on both machines.
s1:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -n 8 ttyS1
I use -n 2 on a dedicated modem line, 8+ for callback. Effect changes with
telinit q
to reread inittab or just kill the mgetty process and it'll respawn.

/etc/mgetty/login.config needs callback information adding on the other end.
magic-userid - - /usr/sbin/callback -S 5551212
(Leave it out on the computer whose phone bill you pay.)

Configure minicom; I need: /dev/ttyS1, 115200,~^M~ATZ^M~, ATDT, 90.
(Leave ttyS0 for mice.) Check /etc/minicom.users.

The dial directory for minicom varies from user to user in ~/.dialdir.

That should make callback work ok, with normal login to the other end.

Configuring PPP itself.

adduser myself dip
to allow myself to run pppd, and then logout and back in for it to take effect.

chgrp dip /etc/ppp.* to allow myself to run them (though I haven't actually
used these scripts yet).

Set up a PPP pseudo-user
adduser --uid 1234 
and password-for-,
then set the shell to /bin/false.

Create an executable file ~/ppp which types
/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 115200 debug defaultroute user 
where  is the agreed username. (You only need this file because
you have but a few seconds to type the above.)

For authentication of  by PAP, add
 * password-for-
(with tabs) to /etc/ppp/pap-secrets at both ends.

To make PPP server use , change the line in login.config to
/AutoPPP/ - - /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login user 
 
Edit /etc/ppp/options and make the following extra lines active
(these words are already active):
(asyncmap 0), auth, (crtscts), (lock), (modem), debug, (proxyarp),
(lcp-echo-interval 30), (lcp-echo-failure 4).

Making a connection:

Down the ethernet card if you want PPP to establish a gateway.

minicom return or minicom -d foo return.

^a d
and select the entry to dial entry foo.

During/after the loud music, type any character.

(Paragraph for callback only) When the login prompt is given, type
magic-userid return
where magic-userid is the magic username appropriate for your location.
When your phone starts to ring, type
ata return

When the login prompt is given, type
^a q
and confirm quit, then type
~/ppp return

A link should be made, which you can check by typing
tail -f /var/log/syslog
assuming you're in group adm.

You can now telnet etc.

To hang-up, type
poff return

Up the ethernet if necessary and type
/etc/init.d/network

Automating it and adding chap.

Remove -chap from the login.config line mentioned above.

Create the following files (+- callback):

~/

/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 115200 defaultroute user  \
connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f ~/.chatscript +chap chap-interval 60

~/pppc

/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 115200 defaultroute user  \

Re: how to update

1998-02-11 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Martin Pelikan [EMAIL PROTECTED] aksed:

 what is the fastest way to update from libc5 to libc6?

and Jens Ritter [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded:
 This script can:
 http://taz.net.au/autoup/
 
 It downloads all required packages and installs them in the right order.

Craig Sanders' autoup script is the way to go, but first make sure
that you read Scott Ellis' Mini-HOWTO at:
  http://www.debian.org/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html
also available as a link from:
  http://www.debian.org/developers_corner.html

You should do this not only so that you know what process is being
automated, but also because it mentions some of the ramifications of
the upgrade which aren't discussed in the script.  The autoup script
does not yet have its own stand-alone documentation.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: StarOffice and Debian (2)

1998-02-11 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote:

 On 11 Feb 1998, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote:
 
 Dou you know how to update the menus in fvwm2 in order to
  incorporate Star Office 4?
 
 If you're using the menu package (see /usr/doc/menu), simply add an
 entry for staroffice in /etc/menu.  If you don't have a Debian
 package, you may need to masquerade under another package name.
 
 I have puted in
 
  /usr/lib/menu/default/staroffice4
 
 the following
 
  ?package(staroffice4):needs=x11 section=Apps/Shells icon=none
 title=Star Office 4 command=/usr/bin/soffice
 
 and then I have done
 
  update-menus
 
 But that does not worked.
 
 What is the problem? The fact that I say ?package(staroffice4) when
 there is not any package staroffice4 instaled (i did the instalation
 form the tar file)?

This is the problem.  update-menus checks to see if there is indeed a
package staroffice4 installed on your system.  If not, it will not
include an entry.

There are a couple of solution.

  * I believe that there is a Debian package that will install a fake
package.

  * Use ?package(some_other_package_that_is_installed).  This will
work and shouldn't cause problems with the other package.

  * Add an entry directly into /etc/X11/fvwm2/main-menu-pre.hook

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Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-11 Thread Paul Rightley
But I would suggest reading the article anyway.  If RedHat makes it easy
to install on many machines, the group in the article did NOT use such a
solution.  Instead, they spent time writing some scripts and setting up
a generic hdd that they sent to their hardware vendor.  The scripts were
designed to customize each machine as it arrived.  I have never really
seen a solution to this problem (although I find it hard to imagine that
RedHat has solved it - it seems tough to me).

Paul

On 10-Feb-98 Hunter H Marshall wrote:
 Behan Webster wrote:
 
 Hunter H Marshall wrote:
 
  Tim Sailer wrote:
  
   They want to be able
   to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each machine
 
  See if the recent aricle in Linux Journal might be
  of help. The article concerned the use of 160
  Alpha Linux boxes for graphics rendering. I belive
  it was the Jan '98 issue.
 
  http://www.ssc.com/lj/
 
 
 Since Tim wants reason to use Debian instead of Redhat, and the article
 you suggest talks of using Redhat, that probably won't be very helpful.
 
 I do not have the article in hand. I was afraid of
 something like that!
 
:-{
 
   hunter red-faced marshall
 
 
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Re: StarOffice

1998-02-11 Thread Joost Kooij
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Wiria A Kusuma wrote:

 try this site, it is a lot more responsive
 ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/linux/packages/staroffice4/final/01

That's where I got it from too. Be quick though if you want to get it from
sunsite.uio.no, AFAIK they're not really allowed to mirror StarOffice 4.0.
I've tracked some other mirrors (several uni's in Germany) and all of them
have had the SO4.0binariesremoved lately.

Cheers,


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Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:

 Craig Sanders wrote:
  
  isn't this sort of thing precisely what cfengine is for? cfengine is 
  available as a debian package.
 
 Doh! I knew there was something out there to do this. That's why I asked
 the list. Looks like my brain is full.. when something new goes in, 
 something old leaks out.. :)
 
  rdist/rsync/ssh can also be useful for remote admin too...
  
  
  BTW, what makes them think that RH can do this any easier than debian?
 

I am not sure if this solves the problem of package installation, unless
you actually force a mirror of all files, not just the configuration files
in /etc.  

Carlo


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Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Behan Webster
Lindsay Allen wrote:
 
 Tim,
 
 IIRC Brian White has advocated cfengine for this task.
 

If I may, he advocated it because we used it here at Verisim to manage
our workstations and servers.  Unfortunately we found although it did
work, it was rather clumsy, and didn't scale well in our environment.

I have written a script (called cfile) which has all the functionality
of what we had cfengine doing for us before.  It needs a bit of a work
(since we've been using it for 4 months we've noticed some places it
could be improved).

All in all though, it seems to do the trick of managing a small network
of near identical machines (hardware wise).  It can also specially
configure certain machines to provide services (dns, web, ftp, etc).  I
am confident that it would scale much larger.

Tim, if you are interested in seeing my developement code let me know. 
It's implementation will be taking a big change, but it's basic working
will be the same.  (i.e. the current version of cfile will give you an
idea of it's capabilities and features).

I plan on making a debian package of it once I am done my overhaul and
make it even more generic (I want to use this same tool on my home
network, here at Verisim, and on several other friend's networks).

Let me know.

Behan

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Re: Modem /dev/cua vs /dev/ttyS

1998-02-11 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 Maybe someone more knowledgable can answer this, I can't.  I have
never had any problems with /dev/ttyS? devices in a script.  I have
been hearing that /dev/cua? devices are deprecated for years, and they
haven't been included in the debian distribution since rex.

Bob

On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Steve Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Use of /dev/cua? may be deprecated, but I can't get scripts to work with
 /dev/ttyS?, only /dev/cua?.  Can anone explain why?


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Re: StarOffice

1998-02-11 Thread Cedric Bapst
  ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/linux/packages/staroffice4/final/01

Is this really the same file as on the original site? I'm asking this
question beacause the file names are different.




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Re: StarOffice and Debian (2)

1998-02-11 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:38:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote:

 What is the problem? The fact that I say ?package(staroffice4) when
 there is not any package staroffice4 instaled (i did the instalation
 form the tar file)?

This is the problem.  update-menus checks to see if there is indeed a
package staroffice4 installed on your system.  If not, it will not
include an entry.

There are a couple of solution.

  * I believe that there is a Debian package that will install a fake
package.

  * Use ?package(some_other_package_that_is_installed).  This will
work and shouldn't cause problems with the other package.

I have used auctex, and it now works fine, Thank you.

At\'e breve
===

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Departamento de Matem\'atica
Faculdade de Ci\^encias e Tecnologia
Universidade de Coimbra
P-3000 COIMBRA, PORTUGAL
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Re: PPP is still a disaster. :(. Please Help. :)

1998-02-11 Thread dA' Phucilage Phactory
God, this was a pain in my arse when i had to get chap working.

/etc/ppp.chatscript for ME is as follows:
snip all crap, up to last 2 lines
   ATDT*70,4214368
CONNECT
^^^

Connect here is important, because it then makes it WAIT before it sends
authentication requests.

/etc/ppp.options_out is as follows:
+ua /etc/ppp/chapchoice defaultroute /dev/modem 115200 persist
^^^

/etc/ppp/chatchoice contains the login/pass info for choice.net, the
format is as follows:
username
password

After that pon should work correctly. I must admit it took me a long while
of using my isp's radias servers until i figured it out one day, now i
connect the digital and much more faster modem pool :.

  Hope it works, if not, send an email, i'll try and help..


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Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Tim Sailer
Behan Webster wrote:
 
 Lindsay Allen wrote:
  
  Tim,
  
  IIRC Brian White has advocated cfengine for this task.
  
 
 If I may, he advocated it because we used it here at Verisim to manage
 our workstations and servers.  Unfortunately we found although it did
 work, it was rather clumsy, and didn't scale well in our environment.
 
 I have written a script (called cfile) which has all the functionality
 of what we had cfengine doing for us before.  It needs a bit of a work
 (since we've been using it for 4 months we've noticed some places it
 could be improved).
 
 All in all though, it seems to do the trick of managing a small network
 of near identical machines (hardware wise).  It can also specially
 configure certain machines to provide services (dns, web, ftp, etc).  I
 am confident that it would scale much larger.
 
 Tim, if you are interested in seeing my developement code let me know. 
 It's implementation will be taking a big change, but it's basic working
 will be the same.  (i.e. the current version of cfile will give you an
 idea of it's capabilities and features).
 
 I plan on making a debian package of it once I am done my overhaul and
 make it even more generic (I want to use this same tool on my home
 network, here at Verisim, and on several other friend's networks).

I'll pass the info along, Behan. Thanks. At this point, I'm not officially
involved, although this may end up being a new job here at the Lab for
me. For some reason, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' gets routed to my mailbox.. :)

Tim

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Re: xauth for my wife:WOW, xdm multi X-windows

1998-02-11 Thread Jameson Burt
Daniel Martin suggested a magical solution, one his mail prodded me to use.
I now have an X-session for myself on cntlaltF7,
one X-session for my wife on cntlaltF8, 
one X-session for my child on cntlaltF9.
WOW

Mail to debian-users on January 4, 1998, by Remco Blaakmeer showed how to do 
this in xdm.  He suggested a clean solution to alter /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers to 
something like
:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt07 :0 -bpp 16
:1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt08 :1 -bpp 8
which also gives you 16-bit color on one console and 8-bit color on the other.
I myself now use
:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt7 :0
:1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt8 :1
:2 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt9 :2
You need change no other files.  However, for beauty, you might alter 
/etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config.

The use of vt08 and :1 at the end of the above lines IS APPARENTLY 
UNDOCUMENTED, at least in the Debian distribution.  These appendages are 
necessary!  Without :2 at the end, I get no xdm login rectangle, just a grey 
screen, for cntlaltF9.  Without the vt09 appendage for the third server, a 
video-timing problem appears so that most of the consoles become unuseable, 
having short random color stripes.  None of these appendages are needed for 
the :0 server, though I add them for consistency.

A bug report for xbase told about xdm multiple X-sessions working with 
ethernet or ppp connected, but not when disconnected.  I had this very problem 
with my ppp connection.  I would get the following error with no ppp
 Fatal server error:
XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address
With ppp, if I turned off ppp, the xdm rectangle for login would dissappear, 
although the cursor would still work.  Then when I turned ppp back on, the 
login rectangles would reappear.  These problems disappeared when I followed 
Remco's suggestion to append vt8 :1 as above.

To get a consistent login console like the first default one, you can also 
change the file /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config.  Amongst the entries there, I have
DisplayManager._0.authorize:true
DisplayManager._0.resources:/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_0
DisplayManager._0.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
DisplayManager._0.startup:  /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_0
DisplayManager._0.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/Xreset_0
! I copy the files for server 0 to those for server 1.
DisplayManager._1.authorize:true
DisplayManager._1.resources:/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_1
DisplayManager._1.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_1
DisplayManager._1.startup:  /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_1
DisplayManager._1.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/Xreset_1
! I  copy the files for server 0 to those for server 2.
DisplayManager._2.authorize:true
DisplayManager._2.resources:/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_2
DisplayManager._2.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_2
DisplayManager._2.startup:  /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_2
DisplayManager._2.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/Xreset_2
I then copied without change the files /etc/X11/xdm/*_0 files to 
/etc/X11/xdm/*_1 and /etc/X11/xdm/*_2. There are four such files; eg, 
/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_2 .

If you try this out, when you alter some of these xdm config files, you can 
tell xdm to look again with
   ps -auxw |grep X or ps -auxw |grep vt, then enter
kill -SIGHUP pid-of-that-X

If you wish to restart xdm, remember the dummy consoles like cntlaltF2.  
Go to /etc/init.d, enter ./xdm stop.  You might check that ps -auxw |grep 
X returns no processes.  Then enter ./xdm start.

The virtual desktops were magical.
These multiple X-sessions are just as magical.
WOW


 This doesn't address your specific question, but what about this:
 I assume that when your wife uses linux, she normally logs in from the 
 console (on one of the text mode consoles), and occasionally then
 wishes to run a few X applications.  If so, then she can just do:
 startx -- :1
 This will give her her own X display (on the next available virtual
 console, probably number 8), and she need not mess with any xauth
 stuff.  (just make certain that Console is in /etc/X11/Xserver)
 If you do this, you'll also probably want to make a symbolic link from 
 ~/.xinit to ~/.xsession  (startx uses .xinit, xdm uses .xsession).
 Supposedly, one should be able to get xdm to start up with two
 X servers on two different virtual consoles, (and therefore two login
 screens) but every time I've tried it it just hung my xdm.
 



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Re: nmh configuration

1998-02-11 Thread David Stern
On 11 Feb 1998 10:21:33 +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
 David Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I've got a hamm system running with smail(3.2.0.100-4), exmh(2.0-1), 
 
  = 450 defer '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', sender address target 
  'localhost.localdomain' cannot be verified at this time: 
  verify_sender(): BIND server failure: : Connection refused. (Try again 
  later)
 
 smail 3.2.100 has introduced some anti-spam measures. One of these is
 checking the sender. Unfortunatly this will cause trouble on a typical
 dialup box.

Doh!  So that's what that phrase in the upgrade mini-howto meant.  It 
would be nice if trouble was in some way described or at least an 
example was cited.  I'm pretty sure I heeded that warning with the 
initial upgrade, albeit blindly.  In this case, smail was probably 
ugraded at the same time as nmh was installed.  At least I learned more 
about my mail systems.

 Downgrade smail to the one in bo until there is a new smail which handles
 this case reasonable.

Thanks, I was just about ready to start the whole process over with MH.

 I think you could also install your own DNS server who will resolve your
 localhost.localdomain. 

True, although probably not practical for dialup connections.

You're incredible!  Thanks again,

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Re: Compiling w/shadow support

1998-02-11 Thread Mark A. Bialik

There should be very few packages you need to do this for.  Is this
plain Debian 1.3.1?

Well, it was. Since I went to libc6, it's now 2.0 or something :)

 ld: cannot open -lshadow: No such file or directory

Try leaving it out, or using -lcrypt.  The latter is for libc6, IIRC.

But how do these packages know to use /etc/shadow instad of /etc/passwd then?

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: Modem /dev/cua vs /dev/ttyS (The Long, True answer to this reappearing question)

1998-02-11 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Serial device locking by convention uses files in a special directory which
are named according to the name of the device. Unless all references to the
device use the same name, this locking fails. That's why cua devices are no
longer used. Why were they ever used? Because old versions of unix had two
different devices for the same serial port, one on which an open would hang
until the device asserted Carrier Detect (which getty's used) and another
which open would return without having Carrier Detect (used for program which
wanted to dial out on the modem). In the modern world we have the same device
for both uses and control this type of behavior by passing flags to the open
system call. For a while the old cua device files were kept around so that old
programs which referenced serial lines as cuaX would still work. This however
created a lot of problems because the locking convention fell apart unless
everyone used the same device name. Thus cua devices were forever banished.

Robert D. Hilliard wrote:

  Maybe someone more knowledgable can answer this, I can't.  I have
 never had any problems with /dev/ttyS? devices in a script.  I have
 been hearing that /dev/cua? devices are deprecated for years, and they
 haven't been included in the debian distribution since rex.

 Bob

 On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Steve Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Use of /dev/cua? may be deprecated, but I can't get scripts to work with
  /dev/ttyS?, only /dev/cua?.  Can anone explain why?

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RE: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Stephen Carpenter
That shouldn't be hard
Have you though tof using 1 or 2 computers as fileservers?
After a quick read of teh FHS (filesystem standard)
the setup is made to allow the shareing of large parts of the filesystem
between
computers.
Then anytime you add a program to the system (usually in /usr/bin etc)
it is added to all of them
as it is you will probably want to share the home directories for users
anyway
/usr itself can not only be shared...but can be mounted READ ONLY
to prevent its destructiuon (you would want it writeable maybe on one or
two machines so that you can administer it)
of course the main problem is if the fileserver computer fails...
but there should be solutions for that too...
I havn;'t done much myself with it...
it would probably mean using NFS or some other system that allows
shareing between computers
A great setup that I remember from when I was upgrading the computers at

a large department store (big rollout) was that they had
2 computers acting as the main servers...
1 just mirrored the main one..and if the main one went down..the
Alternate took over
...and the rest of the store didn't even know the difference
I don't know how hard that would be to setupbut it should be
possible
from what I know...
RedHat's system is mainly to set 1 machine up and have an easy way to
clone it
(I believ ethey call it kickstart...you do the setup once...then just
pop it in and walk
away...it dows the install automatically)
as for the Change 1 config file
that could be done too...
you wouldn'tr want to share /etc tho...because then that shares
everything...which isn't always good
(wouldn't want them all to have the same IP adress)
tho you could mount a shared version of etc and have the shared configs
be sym links to the shared mounted version
but...im just pulling these ideas off the top of my head...
bottom line is it can be done...its just a matter of how you want to do
it and what your needs are exactly
I mean...you don't really want every system running servers (or do you?)

I dunno...just my $.02
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:

 I guess I didn't explain real well the first time, although I enjoyed
 the thread..

 On this compute farm, they want to make changes to 1 machine, as in
adding
 a package, changing a config file, etc and having the resultant
changes
 reflected on the other 199 machines, without having to go to each
 machine and tweak it. Installing the machines will be a short, but
 intense process, but they are looking for long range admin solutions.

 Thanks,
 Tim


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Re: StarOffice

1998-02-11 Thread Wiria A Kusuma
I think so.., just check the file size, I have not done that thou, have
no luck connecting to the stardiv site., but I installed in deb 1.3.1
and hamm system flawlessly, it is completely different beast comparing
to the previous ver, have not work it out much...

good luck
kusuma

Cedric Bapst wrote:
 
   ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/linux/packages/staroffice4/final/01
 
 Is this really the same file as on the original site? I'm asking this
 question beacause the file names are different.
 
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Re: PPP is still a disaster. :(. Please Help. :)

1998-02-11 Thread Martin Bialasinski
dA' Phucilage Phactory [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 /etc/ppp.options_out is as follows:
 +ua /etc/ppp/chapchoice defaultroute /dev/modem 115200 persist
 ^^^
 
 /etc/ppp/chatchoice contains the login/pass info for choice.net, the
 format is as follows:
 username
 password

This won't work with pppd 2.3 where the +ua option is no longer available.
I'd user the options user name-at-the-isp remotename my-isp and the
pap-secrets: 
name-at-the-isp my-isp the-password

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xlib6g

1998-02-11 Thread Richard Sevenich

I would like to install a software package that requires xlib6g. dpkg is loathe
to install xlib6g with xlib6 already installed. Can I safely remove xlib6 i.e.
will packages depending on xlib6 accept xlib6g ... or? ...

I would appreciate hints.

Regards, Richard


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My encryption

1998-02-11 Thread Martin Boros
Dear Representative,

I see that you are interested in encryptions. Here is an other that offers
you money as well.
The page:

http://www.cyberus.ca/~mbmb/dare.shtml

Please get back.

Martin Boros



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My encryption

1998-02-11 Thread Martin Boros
Dear Representative,

I see that you are interested in encryptions. Here is an other that offers
you money as well.
The page:

http://www.cyberus.ca/~mbmb/dare.shtml

Please get back.

Martin Boros



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Re: AGP Video

1998-02-11 Thread Ben Pfaff
   What AGP cards are being used successfully with X?  Specifically, I'm
   considering the Matrox Millenium II AGP.

The XSuse Millenium driver from http://www.suse.de is reputed to work
with AGP.





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lpr problem

1998-02-11 Thread Christopher Judd
I just reinstalled most of my system (from 1.3.1 cd) after a crash, and 
am trying to set
up printing.  lpr returns an error message unable to get official name for 
local machine.  Any 
pointers or info as to what causes this?

-Chris


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lpr problem - cont'd

1998-02-11 Thread Christopher Judd
Regarding my previous post about lpr problems, I am running DHCPD to 
obtain IP 
address, etc.

-Chris



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Re: xlib6g

1998-02-11 Thread David Z. Maze

Richard Sevenich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
RS I would like to install a software package that requires
RS xlib6g. dpkg is loathe to install xlib6g with xlib6 already
RS installed. Can I safely remove xlib6 i.e.  will packages depending
RS on xlib6 accept xlib6g ... or? ...

If you install the xlib6 from hamm, xlib6g should install fine.
xlib6g is the glibc version of the X libraries, and libc5 programs
won't run without the xlib6 package.

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Re: AGP Video

1998-02-11 Thread Steve Hsieh
On 11 Feb 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:

What AGP cards are being used successfully with X?  Specifically, I'm
considering the Matrox Millenium II AGP.
 
 The XSuse Millenium driver from http://www.suse.de is reputed to work
 with AGP.


And it does (at least on my system). :-)



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Re: Modem /dev/cua vs /dev/ttyS (The Long, True answer to this reappearing question)

1998-02-11 Thread Steve Hsieh
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

 Serial device locking by convention uses files in a special directory which
 are named according to the name of the device. Unless all references to the
 device use the same name, this locking fails. That's why cua devices are no
 longer used. Why were they ever used? Because old versions of unix had two
 different devices for the same serial port, one on which an open would hang
 until the device asserted Carrier Detect (which getty's used) and another
 which open would return without having Carrier Detect (used for program which
 wanted to dial out on the modem).

Was cua the one which would return without having Carrier Detect?

My problem is that if I use /dev/ttyS? instead of /dev/cua?, in the
/usr/doc/ppp/examples/secure-card expect script, it doesn't work.  That
script has stuff like 

system stty 19200 -echoe -echo raw  /dev/cua3  /dev/cua3 

When using /dev/ttyS? instead, it won't return, whereas using cua does.
Would you know how to fix this problem so that I can use /dev/ttyS?
instead in scripts like these?

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Re: Modem /dev/cua vs /dev/ttyS (The Long, True answer to this reappearing question)

1998-02-11 Thread Tim Sailer
Steve Hsieh wrote:
 
 My problem is that if I use /dev/ttyS? instead of /dev/cua?, in the
 /usr/doc/ppp/examples/secure-card expect script, it doesn't work.  That
 script has stuff like 
 
 system stty 19200 -echoe -echo raw  /dev/cua3  /dev/cua3 
 
 When using /dev/ttyS? instead, it won't return, whereas using cua does.
 Would you know how to fix this problem so that I can use /dev/ttyS?
 instead in scripts like these?

Try adding -clocal to the above command and see what happens.

Tim

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Re: Compiling w/shadow support

1998-02-11 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Mark A. Bialik wrote:

 
 There should be very few packages you need to do this for.  Is this
 plain Debian 1.3.1?
 
 Well, it was. Since I went to libc6, it's now 2.0 or something :)
 
  ld: cannot open -lshadow: No such file or directory
 
 Try leaving it out, or using -lcrypt.  The latter is for libc6, IIRC.
 
 But how do these packages know to use /etc/shadow instad of /etc/passwd then?

The routines in -lshadow are included in libc6 by default, there isn't any
need for a seperate shadow library.

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Re: lpr problem

1998-02-11 Thread servis
On 11 Feb, Christopher Judd wrote:
   I just reinstalled most of my system (from 1.3.1 cd) after a crash, and 
 am trying to set
 up printing.  lpr returns an error message unable to get official name for 
 local machine.  Any 
 pointers or info as to what causes this?
 
 -Chris
 

You might check the permissions on the host files like /etc/hosts
/etc/hostname, /etc/resolv.conf, etc.  Make sure they at least have
permissions of 444. 

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lchown(), libc6-2.0.7pre1, and 2.1.8x kernels

1998-02-11 Thread David Z. Maze

The lchown() function shows up in the most recent libc6 package.  Is
this on its own enough for dpkg to work happily with the 2.1.81+
kernels?

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wanted packages

1998-02-11 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

Is there any address where we can send our wishes to debian packages
we would like to see created? Is there any address to consult for
programs that can't (for any reason) have a .deb package?

For instance, I would like to have .debs of:

QSeeMe (the only cuseeme client I know of for linux)
http://www.pangea.org/~mavilar/

jacob (integrate emacs with the java compiler)
http://mats.gmd.de:8080/clemens/jacob/

apache-ssl (the secure apache)
http://www.apache-ssl.org/

ssleay (encryption libs)
http://www.psy.uq.oz.au/~ftp/Crypto/

fphone (free phone)
http://www.inria.fr/rodeo/fphone/

hylafax (send faxes and pager messages)
http://www.vix.com/hylafax/

Xswallow (generic plug-in for netscape, allows any external viewer be
swallowed inside netscape!)
http://www.csn.ul.ie/~caolan/docs/Xswallow.html

and some java packages, like:

javamail
jsdk
swing

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Re: lchown(), libc6-2.0.7pre1, and 2.1.8x kernels

1998-02-11 Thread Steve Hsieh
Doesn't appear to be good enough on its own...

dpkg: error processing ssltelnet_0.11.1-2.deb (--install):
 error setting ownership of symlink `usr/man/man8/in.telnetd.8.gz': No such 
file or directory
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)

ii  libc6   2.0.7pre1-1The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files)

% uname -a 
Linux minnie2.eecs.umich.edu 2.1.85 #1 Wed Feb 11 15:39:06 EST 1998 i686 unknown


On 11 Feb 1998, David Z. Maze wrote:

 
 The lchown() function shows up in the most recent libc6 package.  Is
 this on its own enough for dpkg to work happily with the 2.1.81+
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Re: wanted packages

1998-02-11 Thread Tim Sailer
Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella wrote:
 
 
 Is there any address where we can send our wishes to debian packages
 we would like to see created? Is there any address to consult for
 programs that can't (for any reason) have a .deb package?
 
 For instance, I would like to have .debs of:
 
 QSeeMe (the only cuseeme client I know of for linux)
 http://www.pangea.org/~mavilar/

Thats a good one.

 jacob (integrate emacs with the java compiler)
 http://mats.gmd.de:8080/clemens/jacob/

This one too.

 apache-ssl (the secure apache)
 http://www.apache-ssl.org/

Non-US site

 ssleay (encryption libs)
 http://www.psy.uq.oz.au/~ftp/Crypto/

Ditto

 fphone (free phone)
 http://www.inria.fr/rodeo/fphone/

Hrm.. haven't seen this one.

 hylafax (send faxes and pager messages)
 http://www.vix.com/hylafax/

This is in unstable I think.

 Xswallow (generic plug-in for netscape, allows any external viewer be
 swallowed inside netscape!)
 http://www.csn.ul.ie/~caolan/docs/Xswallow.html

This is very cool and useful! It would make a great package. I never 
looked at the Copyright, etc...

 and some java packages, like:
 
 javamail
 jsdk
 swing

These would be good ones too. Is swing distributable? I thought that
was commercial...

Tim

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