Re: mgetty & log files
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, shaul wrote: > > > It seems that mgetty stops logging information after the logs have been > > cycled. If I kill mgetty, it restarts and begins logging again... Is > > there a safe way to tell mgetty the logs have been cycled w/o killing > > mgetty? > > It doesn't happen on my system, although we might have a different version of > mgetty. Perhaps there is a bug with mgetty ? Have you tried the mgetty > mailing > list ? > I'm using: mgetty+sendfax by Gert Doering experimental test release 1.1.9-Aug17 this message has been sent to the mgetty mailing list -Paul Please reply directly to me, as I am not on the mgetty mailing list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mgetty & log files
> It seems that mgetty stops logging information after the logs have been > cycled. If I kill mgetty, it restarts and begins logging again... Is > there a safe way to tell mgetty the logs have been cycled w/o killing > mgetty? It doesn't happen on my system, although we might have a different version of mgetty. Perhaps there is a bug with mgetty ? Have you tried the mgetty mailing list ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Questions...
> If you could choose one book to help you learn Linux, what would it > be? I'm looking for something that covers installation, use, and > administration. Oh yeah, and also how to format a floppy disk : ) The LDP (Linux Documantation Project) is a very good source. It has a link from Debian home page (although I think that accessing it from sunsite might be a better idea). The "books" there (Linux instalation and getting statrted, user-beta, sag) can help a lot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD-rom + zip
> Hi, > > Anyone have any ideas on this: > I have a Zip-drive as master IDE on my second controller and my CD-rom is > slave on the same controller. Whenever I want to acces my CD, it spins up my > Zip, but doesn't read the files. The CD-rom drive doesn't get activated at > all. > > How can I configure the system to use both drives. If that isn't possible > for now I'll live with it, but would like to have a functional CD-rom, > because my Linux, CD's are coming in this week. > Perhaps changing the master and slave, i.e letting the CD be the master, might help ? Maybee you have to set up some jumpers on the CD drive/Zip drive/board in a different way ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
non-free licences
after reading all non-free licences, i have a list what can go on a cdrom. this is my personal list, yours may be different. no waranty. this is not an official debian list. debian takes no position, and will not include non-free packages on their official cdrom. i included packages, if this is ok : - personal use - educational use - commercial, for-profit distribution, for a reasonable fee. (don't mail me, if you think this is too restrictive.) maybe you have your own list, so we can compare ? if you think, that i'm wrong on some package, please write whether the package can be included or not, and include the full licence (and clarifying emails from the author ). Andreas --- BAD abc2mtex abuse-sfx angband arabtext archie axe battleball biglog bsdgames-nonfree calctool cgiwrap chos distributed-net distributed-net-proxy dmalloc doom dqs dungeon echo-linux figfonts figfonts-cjk fractxtra freefont frotz gettyps glimpse gopher-client gsn-curses gsn-jigsaw gumshoe http-analyze idled ines inform inform-docs l3 lha libforms-bin libforms-dev libforms-doc libforms0.86 libforms0.86-altdev libforms0.88 libglide2 libmsql1 libmsql2 libsrgp1 libsrgp1-altdev libsrgp1g libsrgp1g-dev maelstrom majordomo mikmod mirrormagic mosaic mp3asm mp3info msql msql-doc msqld oonsoo pgplot picasm pine-docs povray-misc quake-lib quake2 quake2-dm r-mlbench rel remind rman rocks-n-diamonds seyon sharefonts so-far speech-tools-dev spim squake strn tin tkman tracker ts unzip w3-msql weather wwwtable x3270 x3270-htmldoc xanim xfmail xgalaga xgobi xinetd xmame xmikmod xpacman xpdf xquake xtoolplaces xtrojka xv xwpick zip GOOD amp biss chimera chktex circus cthugha cucipop dgs dgs-dev doc++ doc-html-w3 dvi2tty epan ethiop ezlm-source festival festlex-cmu festlex-oald festlex-poslex festvox-don festvox-kdlpc16k festvox-kdlpc8k fftw1 gfont giftrans gravitywars gs-aladdin html2latex hwb lclint libcgic1 libcgic1-altdev libcgicg1 libcgicg1-dev libgd-perl libgd1 libgd1-altdev libgd1g libgd1g-dev libjpeg-gif mcvert mirror mpg123 musixtex musixtex-doc mysql-base mysql-bench mysql-dev mysql-doc mysql-manual mysql-server ncftp ncompress nedit netpbm-nonfree newsgate noweb ocal optimizer opustex pdl qmail-src qt-doc qt1g qt1g qt1g-dev serialmail-src snns snns-doc swi-prolog tatctae tetex-french tgif tkdiff tripwire ucbmpeg ucbmpg-play unarj wwwcount xacc-smotif xanim xautolock xfractint xpostitplus xtrkcad xzx zoo CHECK diablo fftw1-dev gdk-imlib-nonfree-dev gdk-imlib-nonfree imlib-nonfree imlib-nonfree-dev jdk1.1-dev jdk1.1-docdemo povray povray-doc snns-examples snns-tools tkgofer xmame-svga xmame-x xmayday xmayday-doc xpvmpov xsqlmenu CHECK: i got my information with cat usr/doc/*/*copyright*, but with these packages, i got empty files, so i have to look at them manualy. TODO : check non-US packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to hamm
>> >> And some 2.0.33 systems (mine at least) are quite stable with hamm. >> >> Bob >> > >Quite possible if it only runs a few hours/day or is lightly loaded. I >would consider it a ticking timebomb, though. One particular system of > we have quite a few systems running 2.0.33 up 24/7 with plenty of people constantly running plenty of cpu intensive simulation jobs and i haven't had any of them crash on me yet. your mileage may vary though. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Brian Mays wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maarten Bezemer) wrote: > > > Someone told me there are far more rpm-packages available, and other > > distributions also use rpm. What's true about that? > > The core set of RPM packages, what RedHat produces, is much smaller > than Debian's main distribution. While some other companies and groups > distribute their software in RPM form, the majority of the RPM packages > that you are hearing about are put together by RedHat users, and therefore > can be of somewhat dubious quality. Debian has a policy document to ...snip While Debian does have more packages, it also seems to stricter, in terms of including packages into their core distribution, than Red Hat. There were several important (IMHO) packages available on Red Hat cdroms that were not available on Debian cdroms. These packages are available from their site in their directory of non-free software, so the packages are still available, but less convenient to access. Also, IMHO, Red Hat has more included more documentation on their system than Debian. In particular, I like the Red Hat manual which comes in HTML format. Red Hat supplies many of their administrative with a graphical interface e.g. glint, control-panel which require X11. I much prefer command line or vt100, since when I have problems or working over the net, I won't have X11 running. I have both distributions installed, and by and large seem to prefer Debian. Both are fine. King Lee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Tamas Papp wrote: > > I don't think 'debian-flame' would be quite appropriate. How about > > debian-discussion, or debian-advocacy or something? > It's a good idea, "flame" was just a thought (after the Hungarian list > linux-flame). The name debian-discussion would be quite appropriate for > the topics that I mentioned. So, how can we start this list? Who is the > person to ask? That'd be [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are several ppl in charge of list administration. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nescape on Alpha?
Not sure about an Alpha version of Netscape, but you should be able to use em86 to run the x86 version. Steve Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jorge L. deLyra wrote: > > Does anybody know whether it is possible to run Netscape under Linux on > Alpha? I can't seem to find a package anywhere. Also, I cannot find > anything about this on the Netscape web site... Maybe one can fix things > to run the OSF/1 version? Or maybe we have to wait for version 5?... > > > Jorge L. deLyra, Associate Professor of Physics > The University of Sao Paulo, IFUSP-DFMA >For more information: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PPP dies early
I am doing my best to get a ppp connection with my ISP working. I would have expected this to be fairly easy, because my provider supports Linux and has some scripts available for this purpose. Unfortunately, this did not turn out as easy as I hoped. My modem dials my provider and the script manages to get me logged-in. I seem to receive an IP address for the session, but after a second or three the line drops and I am lost. Even during the 3 seconds 'on-line', ifconfig does not report an ppp interface, so I assume that I am not really 'alive'. I have added both scripts and a portion of the log file, hoping that someone might be able to give me a clue where to look for the problem. This would be greatly appreciated! Best regards, Erik van der Meulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ppp-on #!/bin/sh # LOCAL_IP=0.0.0.0# Local IP address if known. Dynamic = 0.0.0.0 REMOTE_IP=0.0.0.0 # Remote IP address if desired. Normally 0.0.0.0 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 # The proper netmask if needed DIALER_SCRIPT=/etc/ppp/ppp-on-xs4all /bin/setserial /dev/ttyS0 spd_vhi if ! /usr/sbin/pppd -d \ /dev/ttyS0 115200 user avondel connect $DIALER_SCRIPT then echo pppd error. fi - -- ppp-on-xs4all - -- #!/bin/sh # exec chat -v\ TIMEOUT 3 \ ABORT '\nBUSY\r' \ ABORT '\nNO ANSWER\r' \ ABORT '\nRINGING\r\n\r\nRINGING\r'\ '' \rAT\ 'OK-+++\c-OK' ATH0\ TIMEOUT 30 \ OK 'ATZ' \ OK 'ATM0DT5350535' \ CONNECT '' - -- /var/log/ppp.log - -- Apr 15 21:48:11 souterrain pppd[28858]: pppd 2.2.0 started by erik, uid 0 Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: timeout set to 3 seconds Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: abort on (\nBUSY\r) Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: abort on (\nNO ANSWER\r) Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: abort on (\nRINGING\r\n\r\nRINGING\r) Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: send (rAT^M) Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: expect (OK) Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: rAT^M^M Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: OK -- got it Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: send (ATH0^M) Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: timeout set to 30 seconds Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: expect (OK) Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: ^M Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: ATH0^M^M Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: OK -- got it Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: send (ATZ^M) Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: expect (OK) Apr 15 21:48:13 souterrain chat[28859]: ^M Apr 15 21:48:14 souterrain chat[28859]: ATZ^M^M Apr 15 21:48:14 souterrain chat[28859]: OK -- got it Apr 15 21:48:14 souterrain chat[28859]: send (ATM0DT5350535^M) Apr 15 21:48:15 souterrain chat[28859]: expect (CONNECT) Apr 15 21:48:15 souterrain chat[28859]: ^M Apr 15 21:48:32 souterrain chat[28859]: ATM0DT5350535^M^M Apr 15 21:48:32 souterrain chat[28859]: CONNECT -- got it Apr 15 21:48:32 souterrain chat[28859]: send (^M) Apr 15 21:48:32 souterrain pppd[28858]: Serial connection established. Apr 15 21:48:34 souterrain pppd[28858]: Using interface ppp0 Apr 15 21:48:34 souterrain pppd[28858]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0 Apr 15 21:48:40 souterrain pppd[28858]: Remote message: ^M Starting PPP for address 194.109.45.150^M ^M Apr 15 21:49:19 souterrain pppd[28858]: Modem hangup Apr 15 21:49:19 souterrain pppd[28858]: Connection terminated. Apr 15 21:49:19 souterrain pppd[28858]: Exit. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NAS Audio spontaneously stopped working
I noticed that my audio wasn't working any more (on Debian 1.3 bo).
Any hints to how to get it working again are appreciated. (Did running
2.0.33 finally catch up to me? I don't know.)
# bplay bplay ~/debian-mail.au
bplay: /dev/dsp: No such device or address
# cat ~/debian-mail.au > /dev/audio
bash: /dev/audio: No such device or address
# mtvp file.mpg
Device busy or sampling rate not supported (muting): No such device or address
I get the same sort of error trying to start nas (which is what I usually use)
bash-2.01# /etc/init.d/nas start
Starting the Network Audio System
Fatal server error:
could not create audio connection block info
When I call `au' explicitely:
bash-2.01# strace /usr/X11R6/bin/au
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open("/dev/dsp", O_RDWR) = -1 ENXIO (No such device or address)
open("/dev/pcaudio", O_RDWR) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
write(2, "\nFatal server error:\n", 21
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The dsp device is there:
bash-2.01# ls -l /dev/dsp
crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 3 Apr 14 08:50 /dev/dsp
The `pcaudio' wasn't (although I don't remember it ever being there)
bash-2.01# ls -l /dev/pcaudio
ls: /dev/pcaudio: No such file or directory
bash-2.01# ./MAKEDEV pcaudio
bash-2.01# ls -l /dev/pcaudio
crw-rw 1 root audio 13, 4 Apr 15 11:43 /dev/pcaudio
bash-2.01# rm /dev/dsp
bash-2.01# cd /dev
bash-2.01# ./MAKEDEV dsp
bash-2.01# ls -l dsp
crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 3 Apr 15 11:43 dsp
I still get an error after creating /dev/pcaudio or recreating /dev/dsp
bash-2.01# strace /usr/X11R6/bin/au
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open("/dev/dsp", O_RDWR) = -1 ENXIO (No such device or address)
open("/dev/pcaudio", O_RDWR) = -1 ENODEV (No such device)
write(2, "\nFatal server error:\n", 21
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Here my sound stat file:
bash-2.01# cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.5.4-960630 (Thu Jan 22 11:44:21 EST 1998 root,
Linux mixing 2.0.32 #2 Thu Nov 27 16:29:33 EST 1997 i686 unknown)
Kernel: Linux mixing 2.0.33 #1 Thu Jan 22 11:46:21 EST 1998 i686
Config options: 0
Installed drivers:
Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM
Type 2: Sound Blaster
Type 7: SB MPU-401
Card config:
(Sound Blaster at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1,5)
(SB MPU-401 irq 1 drq 0)
(OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0)
Audio devices:
Synth devices:
Midi devices:
Timers:
0: System clock
Mixers:
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kernel-package: How to change loader?
I currently use kernel-package_3.63. Is there a way to tell kernel-package, that I want to use chos instead of lilo or silo? I used to edit the /usr/lib/kernel-package/image.postinst file directly, unfortunately these changes are lost with each update. Torsten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nescape on Alpha?
Does anybody know whether it is possible to run Netscape under Linux on Alpha? I can't seem to find a package anywhere. Also, I cannot find anything about this on the Netscape web site... Maybe one can fix things to run the OSF/1 version? Or maybe we have to wait for version 5?... Jorge L. deLyra, Associate Professor of Physics The University of Sao Paulo, IFUSP-DFMA For more information: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ficticious login
Bob Nielsen wrote: > > On 15 Apr 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > > > >Occassionally running 'who' shows something like: > > > > > >nielsen ttyp1Apr 15 08:49 (:0.0) > > > > > >There have been no network logins, however. What would cause this > > >indication? > > > > > > Running an xterm. > > Strange...removing the xterm killed the listing with 'w' but it's still > there with 'who' (even after exiting x altogether). Hrm.. I see the same thing.. mostly with xterms.. but, wu-ftp sessions never seem to log out either... how bazaar... Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ficticious login
> On 15 Apr 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > >Occassionally running 'who' shows something like: > > > >nielsen ttyp1Apr 15 08:49 (:0.0) > > > >There have been no network logins, however. What would cause this > >indication? > > > > Running an xterm. Strange...removing the xterm killed the listing with 'w' but it's still there with 'who' (even after exiting x altogether). Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ficticious login
On 15 Apr 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote: >Occassionally running 'who' shows something like: > >nielsen ttyp1Apr 15 08:49 (:0.0) > >There have been no network logins, however. What would cause this >indication? > > Running an xterm. Ahhh! Thanks. Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ficticious login
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: > Occassionally running 'who' shows something like: > > nielsen ttyp1Apr 15 08:49 (:0.0) Are you logged in to X11 on the console? (using xdm maybe?) Cheers, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ficticious login
Occassionally running 'who' shows something like: nielsen ttyp1Apr 15 08:49 (:0.0) There have been no network logins, however. What would cause this indication? Running an xterm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ficticious login
Occassionally running 'who' shows something like: nielsen ttyp1Apr 15 08:49 (:0.0) There have been no network logins, however. What would cause this indication? Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to hamm
Wow thanx It turns out that MY CPU has a metal heat sink with a fan attached but no heat sink grease (I will add some) as fo r the memory About a month back my memory went bad (2 days after a pwer failure...I runa UPS now -- 1.5 KVA..its nice) and I grabbed 32 MB out of an old Pentium 100 since it was the only RAM I had One of the reasons I want the new motherboard is that the DIMM slots on the old mother board don't work...all attempts to upgrade the RAM have failed (so I have been stuck with 32 MB of old RAM) unfortunatly my problems with the NEW board I DOUBT are heat related... they seem to be IDE controler problems but once i get them squared away...I will be sure to try adding some heat sink grease then again...I believe my system exhibited the same problem with SIG11 even after being off for hours...(previously it had been up for a few weeks) My CPU has always seemd to run cool...couse.// my heatsink is large with a fan...and I have a larger case fan blowing crosswind it -Steve George Bonser wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: > > > I am pretty sure that my current problem is not CPU related (unless the > > pentium also has the sam ebug) because I have swapped it out > > but...I want to walk away from all of this mess with a > > solid system > > -Steve > > Are you the one that posted about Sig11 faults? If the faults do not > occur in the same place twice, the trouble is usually one of the > following: > > You have overclocked your CPU, put it back. > You have a cheap or ineffective CPU fan and the CPU is getting too hot. > Replace the fan and add heatsink compound to the area where the heatsinkk > contacts the CPU. > You have installed memory that is too slow for your machine causing random > errors. Get the proper RAM. > Your cache RAM is failing. > Your power supply is failing. > > In 99% of my cases with random sig11 faults, it is related to CPU heat. > > Installing a good fan/heatsink with heatsink compound has fixed it. > NEVER, EVER, EVER, use one of those "stick-on" cpu fans with double-sided > tape. The tape actually INSULATES the CPU and can make it run hotter. > > George Bonser > > If I had a catchy quip, it would be here. > > http://www.debian.org > Debian/GNU Linux ... the maintainable operating system. > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian packages : DESTDIR
DESTDIR should be debian/tmp and not `pwd`/debian/tmp no ? How can change it ? No, DESTDIR should probably be an absolute path, so `pwd` is correct. The likely cause of the error is that the program's Makefile attempts to install files into directories that it does not create first. You can either modify the Makefile to create them or you can create them in the binary target before running make install. HTH, Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian packages : DESTDIR
Hi im making my first package using deb-make (im using a doc witch explain how to do with the game empire), but i have a problem with DESTDIR. This is the error message: make install DESTDIR=`pwd`/debian/tmp make[1]: Entering directory `/home/julien/empire-1.1' /usr/bin/install -o root -g root -m 0755 -s empire debian/tmp/usr/local/games/empire /usr/bin/install: debian/tmp/usr/local/games/empire: No such file or directory DESTDIR should be debian/tmp and not `pwd`/debian/tmp no ? How can change it ? -- Julien Ortega -- EXTERN e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID configuration in hamm install?
Remco Blaakmeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ...but... you have make a mistake ;-) > > in hamm mdutils has been replaced by raidtools > > Yes, silly me. I knew that, I just didn't think of it. I always though raidtools is for 2.1.XX and mdutils for 2.0.xx Am I wrong? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 2048/E451C639 Jens Ritter Key fingerprint: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
He is correct. E .13 needs too much work to make a deb worth it. As soon as .14 is out and usable there will be a debian package of it. I have already relased a imlib and a gdk_imlib package. A fnlib package will be out when it is stable and compiles nicely. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 10:09:36AM +0200, Bernd Kummer wrote: > hi, > > does anybody know if there is another cd recording program for linux > than cdrecord ??? cdda2wav and soundrecorder <- analog pgp3LkY181LvF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Faster swap by using separate disk?
Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have been wondering about whether putting a swap partition on one IDE > drive, while putting most of linux on a different IDE drive will speed up > swap by allowing both disks to be accessed at the same time. > > Unfortunately I think I read somewhere that when you have a Master/Slave > IDE pair, only one of the disks can be accessed at any one time, so that > having the swap partition on a separate disk doesn't help. > > However my motherboard is capable of using 4 ide devices. It has two > pairs: > > Primary Master/Primary Slave > and > Secondary Master/Secondary Slave > > What if I put linux on one of the primary disks, and the swap partition on > a secondary disk, will that mean both disks can be accessed at the same > time, hence giving a swap speedup? Yes. If you put one disk on each ide channel/adapter/whatever and if you put swap partitions on each drive, you will get a speedup as the kernel is able to use both partitions concurrently (up to a point). You can get even a greater speedup, if you use RAID0 (See package mdutils). Startup of emacs is ~5-10 secs faster on my system, since I converted my /usr partition (using cp -a). Jens --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 2048/E451C639 Jens Ritter Key fingerprint: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord
Bernd Kummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > hi, > > does anybody know if there is another cd recording program for linux > than cdrecord ??? cdwrite Jens --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 2048/E451C639 Jens Ritter Key fingerprint: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
On 15 Apr 98 12:09:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris) wrote: >Another thing - is there any plans for debianizing the enlightenment >window manager? >From the "Prospective Packages" list posted here regularly, it seems that there is: By Shaleh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): * [10]The enlightenment window manager Also, Shaleh mentioned on the list recently that he's waiting for the E code to become more stable/compatible with Debian, or something like that. The next major version of E is the end of May, so he's looking at a mid-June release of the Debian version. (but this sort of date is never set in concrete) I'm getting itchy already, what with Enlightenment, the Gimp/GTK, Mozilla, Debian 2.0, Kernel 2.2 and the like just about to arrive in full force... Time to buy a plastic keyboard cover and a box of Kleenex, I think. :-> Rob Wilderspin. -- "But I need it to crash once every few days - reboots are the only chance I get to sleep..." --= (send replies to rob@) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
On 15 Apr 98 11:54:27 GMT, in linux.debian.user Maarten Bezemer wrote: >Someone told me there are far more rpm-packages available, and other >distributions also use rpm. What's true about that? Whether it's true or not, Debian can install rpm packages! Use the "alien" package to convert them to debs and install away (after reading the alien documentation, of course). And it's quality, not quantity, that counts in this world. ;-) Rob Wilderspin. -- "But I need it to crash once every few days - reboots are the only chance I get to sleep..." --= (send replies to rob@) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP!!!
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: [litany of problems snipped] > IDE and put in a ISA IDE controler, and it worked just fine I don't > hoeveer consioder this a solution becaus eit is a NEW motherboard which > i got Saturday Is it possible that the IDE controller is a buggy one or > of a weird chipset that will not work under linux? (installing bo so > kernel 2.0.29) > > the board is a BioStar 8500 TTD (it is a TX chipset) where can I find > this out? should I just return this borad and try to get a new board of > a diffetn model and company (I already returned this board once and got > it replaced...to no avail) My advice: run for the shop and get another board. Another brand and model. I don't know how you value your time, but I would certainly shell out some money if it would save me a week of hassle. I have had some hassle with linux now and then, but the time that I put in solving problems I have always found well-invested. I've always come out better and knowing more. With hardware, I find that problems are almost always intensely frustrating. The only thing I've ever learnt from hardware problems is that you're best choice is to look at it for no more than an hour and bring it back to the shop. Don't feel embarassed towards the shop personnel or yourself. If the shop only sells motherboards of the crappier^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcheaper sorts, go to another shop to buy the replacement. Hardware problems are my only reason for not buying stuff from mailorder companies, although they're usually much cheaper and often carry known good brands. On more than half the computers that I've bought (I regularly buy computers for friends and relatives) I had to go back to the shop to get a replacement or an upgrade. I don't expect any software to run stable on rotten hardware. Because I buy equipment for other people, I want the hardware to work 100% because I don't give support on Windows (people tend to take it as an excuse to not try to figure things out themselves anymore - besides, having to give windows support is a form of mental abuse anyway.) Good luck, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD-rom + zip
On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 11:40:55AM +0200, Marc van der Vossen wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone have any ideas on this: > I have a Zip-drive as master IDE on my second controller and my CD-rom is > slave on the same controller. Whenever I want to acces my CD, it spins up my > Zip, but doesn't read the files. The CD-rom drive doesn't get activated at > all. > > How can I configure the system to use both drives. If that isn't possible > for now I'll live with it, but would like to have a functional CD-rom, > because my Linux, CD's are coming in this week. > > Thanks in advance for your ideas, I had a similar problem, I have a SyQuest SparQ 1 gig drive, and a cdrom. I put the SparQ on secondary master and the cdrom on secondary slave, but linux would only detect my cdrom.. Then I looked at the jumpers at bit more closely, and found that I forgot to set the cdrom to be the slave drive. I suspect you have the same problem. pgpQwNbJQ1MGX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X Server Locks Up at 16 bpp
On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 12:26:19AM -0500, David Densmore wrote: > I have a Diamond Speedstar Pro and am running the svga server. > > VGA: chipset: clgd5429 > SVGA: videoram: 1024k > > When I try: > > startx -- -bpp 16 > > the screen locks up and the colors are strange (black screen, odd green > lines at top of screen). After a couple of minutes I can move the mouse > around the screen as long as I don't move it over the xterm window, at > which time it locks up again. > > I can run at -bpp 8 ok. > > Can anyone tell me how to fix this? I don't know what is wrong exactly, but the output from startx might be usefull.. run it as startx -- -bpp 16 1>>out 2>>out wait a bit, then press CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE (should quit X) then look at the file out, it might provide some clues.. pgpV77KfVLtr5.pgp Description: PGP signature
-----> How-to recompile kernel ??????
Hello !!µ I just wondering about how to recompile the kernel on the debian ?? (it is to make my sound card working properly) Bye -- Pierre Dupuis Rédacteur du Music Review http://home.nordnet.fr/~pdupuis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP A NEWBIE: user:nobody invoking find
Albert Hurd wrote: > Could anyone help me understand the following, and what to do about it: I can try :) . > Wheh I am on the net (with netscape 3.04) my disk suddenly begins > thrashing. A look at top shows a "find / ( -fstype" under user:nobody. > The rather extensive find explains the disk thrashing, but who is > nobody, nobody IS nobody...it is a username that denotes that it is not a personwho currently has an acount on the system some programs which "delete a user" take otu the user from the passwor dfile and get rid of their home directory... then they set any other files that that person owned so they are now owned by "nobody" (instead of the now invalid User ID) nobody is also used by some other system processes that try to be careful and don't want to run with root privilages, yet also don't want to take the risk of doing something as some other "real" user > and how do I tell him to knock it off. This has happened twice on two > consecutive days. Many thanks. You probbaly don't want to tell "him" to knock it off.What youa re seeing is actuallt a "cron job" this is run daily (see the file /etc/cron.daily/find ) it runs "updatedb" every day to catalog your filesystem . The upshot of this i sthat you can use the locate commenad try "locate " you will see why... if you don't want it ...then just delete the above mentioned file... but..then you will have to run updatedb yourself by hand when you want it -Steve > Albert Hurd > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP A NEWBIE: user:nobody invoking find
George Bonser wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ossama Othman wrote: > > > I forgot to mention that the find operation is being run as the "nobody" > > user. Below is the command in /etc/cron.daily/find that probably starts > > the find process you mentioned: > > > > cd / && updatedb --localuser=nobody 2>/dev/null > > > > Ok, this is the daily updatedb that is run from cron. This is a friendly > program. In exchange for the disk activity, you get a system that can find > things faster when needed. Somebody should tell the original poster *what* uses it! Check out the very cool `locate' command to quickly find any word-readable file on your system. The associated `updatedb' command that accesses the disks is usually setup to run at 6AM. Edit /etc/crontab if this doesn't suit your use. I'm usually sleeping when mine runs! -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 ** New E-Mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is cut off ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to hamm
Jeff Noxon wrote: > to 2.0.32 or 34pre? My K6 is one of the ">32M bug free" ones. > You have me a bit worried I posted last night (througha friend) and a littlwe while ago about a major hardware problem When I replaced my motherboard I also got some more RAM... my new motherboard has 128 MB of SDRAM (single DIMM) and I have an AMD K6 ...how do I know if my processor is not >64 MB bug free ones? I am pretty sure that my current problem is not CPU related (unless the pentium also has the sam ebug) because I have swapped it out but...I want to walk away from all of this mess with a solid system -Steve > I suspected the memory immediately and took it out. But it appears to > be good stuff -- 60ns Micron EDO, just like what was already in there. > Naturally, it also passes every memory test I throw at it. > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP A NEWBIE: user:nobody invoking find
I forgot to mention that the find operation is being run as the "nobody" user. Below is the command in /etc/cron.daily/find that probably starts the find process you mentioned: cd / && updatedb --localuser=nobody 2>/dev/null -Ossama __ Ossama Othman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- PGP Keys --- Public: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_PUBLIC.asc REVOKED: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_REVOKED.asc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to hamm
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 10:39:40AM -0700, George Bonser wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Jeff Noxon wrote: > > > I have 2.0.33 running on an ABIT IT5H 2.0, K6-233 w/ 64 megs of RAM. > > It's rock solid, but when I add another 64 megs, things start to segfault > > all over the place. Is that a symptom of this problem? Should I switch > > to 2.0.32 or 34pre? My K6 is one of the ">32M bug free" ones. > > Let me put it this way, booting a 2.0.32 kernel is a quick and easy way to > rule .33 out, isnt it? Remember that you can have several different > kernels on your system and select which one you want at boot-time. > > It would be consistant with .33's known memory corruption problems. I'll try .32. The problems do not show up immediately, so I'm nervous to try it... But what the heck! :) I did notice the system ran significantly faster with 128M in it. Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP A NEWBIE: user:nobody invoking find
Hi, > Wheh I am on the net (with netscape 3.04) my disk suddenly begins > thrashing. A look at top shows a "find / ( -fstype" under user:nobody. > The rather extensive find explains the disk thrashing, but who is > nobody, > and how do I tell him to knock it off. This has happened twice on two > consecutive days. Many thanks. I think that you can safely ignore the "nobody" user. :) "Nobody" is a user that most if not all UN*X systems have. However, it "nobody" is not a login account, meaning that no one should be able to logon as "nobody." The only way to use the "nobody" account is via a setuid call or via an su. Basically what is happening is that the cron daemon (daemon to execute scheduled commands) is running some commands that use the "find" command. >From what I can tell, the /etc/cron.daily/find file is what cron is running everyday on your system and everyone elses Debian system, including mine. I hope that this answers your question. :) -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I get dselect to reinstall all installed packages?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Louis W. Erickson wrote: > I have a desire to get dselect to reinstall every package that I have > installed, from my known-clean CD-rom. > > (I've had a security issue arise, and don't know the extent of the > possible changes.) > > I don't want to have to remove every package, or to upgrade to a new > version of Debian; I'm very happy with the packages I have installed. > > Is there a way to get dselect to overwrite files with the same version, > instead of skipping them? Mount the cd, cd to main/binary-i386 and type: dpkg -iGROB stable/main/binary-i386 When dpkg is finished, do the same for contrib/binary-i386 (and non-free/binary-i386 if that's on your cd as well.) When you run dselect, it does something very much alike, but it runs dpkg with the additional switch -E aka --skip-same-version, which makes it skip packages that you've already installed. You can read some of these things in the dpkg manpage or by typing dpkg --help. Cheers, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HELP A NEWBIE: user:nobody invoking find
Could anyone help me understand the following, and what to do about it: Wheh I am on the net (with netscape 3.04) my disk suddenly begins thrashing. A look at top shows a "find / ( -fstype" under user:nobody. The rather extensive find explains the disk thrashing, but who is nobody, and how do I tell him to knock it off. This has happened twice on two consecutive days. Many thanks. Albert Hurd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: giflib2
On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 11:27:53PM +0200, Klas Lindberg wrote: > > Namely that the package you're asking for doesn't exist. HOWEVER, there > > is a libgif2 and that is what you want. Assuming of course that you're > > willing to hack apart the .deb file, edit the dependancy, and put it back > > together again. I do not advise forcing the package. > > There is a much more straight forward solution: > Get the sources and compile them yourself (support, libs, base (the > rest in any order)). This requires a pretty fat developers installation of > Debian, but it definitely pays off since dependecy problems are virtually > blown away. (they come back in a more digestible format when trying to start > KDE for the first time...) This could be done I suppose.. But it has a disadvantage too in that it defeats the purpose of packaging the thing. > This also has the benefit (?) of getting the installation into the > /usr/local/ tree (same as QT) instead of the RedHatian /opt/ tree. AFAIK, the /opt/ thing is the way the KDE people say to do it, though it breaks policy (then again so does qmail if you're doing it as designed) and I am personally unsure as to whether /usr/local/ would indeed be better than /opt/. Perhaps symlinking would be better? Yes, that would do it I think. Thinking that line, what would then be really nice is a debianized package version done "properly", in an attempt to make the whole thing as close to policy as possible (and have resolvable deps..) If I knew the current still-non-free-but-at-least-nicer-than-it-was stuff wrt Qt were going to pan out okay, I would happily try to do this myself. Granted, since I do not know what the helpful tools are for making .deb files I would end up building the package directories by hand, but hey. My only real objection to Qt is that Troll has a financial interest in making sure people pay them for it. I want to know they will not pull an Open Group move on us. I'll like Qt much more when I am sure this will not happen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HELP!!!
A friend of mine sent out an e-mail about this last night (taking half-assed dictation in his own way) I woul dlike to elaborate and ask again for help...I am desparate. Last thursday I was recompiling my kernel (2.0.29) on a hamm system (pre-freze but this had worked b4) and I got the dreaded SIGNAL 11. I checked out the SIG11 FAQ...and as it mentioned I ran Make again and it went a little farther and died again..as the FAQ says "then it must be a hardware problem". I replaced the motherboard. On the new motherboard I am having still major problems. I have swapped out nearly every part, to no avail Here are the symproms: I can boot MS-DOS and use Loadlin to start the Debian installation I can install with no errors (checking badblocks etc, remaking the partition table etc - I make a 1024 MB root partition, a 128 MB swap partition, and the rest of the 3.2 gig drive is for /home) When I reboot... The BIOS does "its thing" and comes to "lilo" after which I see "loading Linux" and then it pauses for up to 20 seconds...then it gives me "Error 0x20" and stops if I again boot DOS and go into the install... then on the seocnd VC I run "e2fsck -f /dev/hda1" it comes up with major errors and deletes most of the filesystem (I once saw nearly everything gone leaving only the "lost+found" directory) I tried this hard drive in a second computer, it installs linux fine when that drive is moved back to this computer, it exibits the SAME refusal to boot...however I disabled the onboard IDE and put in a ISA IDE controler, and it worked just fine I don't hoeveer consioder this a solution becaus eit is a NEW motherboard which i got Saturday Is it possible that the IDE controller is a buggy one or of a weird chipset that will not work under linux? (installing bo so kernel 2.0.29) the board is a BioStar 8500 TTD (it is a TX chipset) where can I find this out? should I just return this borad and try to get a new board of a diffetn model and company (I already returned this board once and got it replaced...to no avail) a quick response is apreciated I have over 1000 e-maisl on my ISP...and have been without a home PC for almost a week This is really setting back my projects and things if you need any more info please let me know -Steve -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How can I get dselect to reinstall all installed packages?
I have a desire to get dselect to reinstall every package that I have installed, from my known-clean CD-rom. (I've had a security issue arise, and don't know the extent of the possible changes.) I don't want to have to remove every package, or to upgrade to a new version of Debian; I'm very happy with the packages I have installed. Is there a way to get dselect to overwrite files with the same version, instead of skipping them? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [tcsh] disabling autologout?
Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: > Hi, > > How do I diable autologout in tcsh? The man page tells me how I can enable unset autologout > it. The problem seems to be that even under X my DISPLAY is not being set I don't see how these two problems could be related but... If your DISPLAY is not being set for local xterms make sure you are setting it using "setenv" instead of "set" in your login shell. For remote xterms, look into the REMOTEHOST environment variable. Use bash (instead of tcsh) and ssh (for connecting to remote hosts). HTH, Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Isabelle Dauthieu wrote: > > In my humble opinion, there is no great difference between installing a > debian or a red hat distribution, but upgrading a debian one is far > easier. Moreover a debian installation is able to install redhat packages, > the reverse is false. No, you can install deb packages on a RedHat system using alien; I've done it several times. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell Using Linux - Windows-free zone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [tcsh] disabling autologout?
On 15 Apr, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: > Hi, > > How do I diable autologout in tcsh? The man page tells me how I can enable > it. The problem seems to be that even under X my DISPLAY is not being set > and tcsh running under xterm keeps logging me out after a period of > inactivity. > > S. Put unset autologout in your .login. -- Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 10:16:26AM -0400, Daniel Martin at cush wrote: > > The original post also asked about the enlightenment wm. The list of > prospective packages > (http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html) lists it as one > that's being "worked on". > IIRC, the future maintainer post a mail about releasing Enlightment deb at the beginning of June 1998. The current version of Enlightment aren't ready for packaging and it there are a major release announce for the end of May. -- Fabien Ninoles Running Debian/GNU Linux E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WebPage: http://www.callisto.si.usherb.ca/~94246757 WorkStation [available when connected!]: http://nightbird.tzone.org/ RSA PGP KEY [E3723845]: 1C C1 4F A6 EE E5 4D 99 4F 80 2D 2D 1F 85 C1 70 pgp5qNq8XgdLN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: why debian?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: > Isabelle Dauthieu wrote: > > > > On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: > > > > > > where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me > > > > what distribution is better? > > > >From my own experience (a portable using a PCMCIA network adapter), > > > > > > RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed > > > to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ > > > superior.. > > > > Just a correction : debian now only needs 1 floppy to install > > if your CDrom is quite standard. If it is not the case, you will need 2 > > floppies (the rescue disk and the drivers disks which contain drivers for > > all CDroms). > I feel I must clarify my position here - I've done ally my installs from > FTP sites. > > It's one of the advantages of working for an Academic site Or of living in an area with flat-rate telephone service. > > In this situation, RedHat seems to offer an easier install... On a system with DOS and a CD-ROM, you can install Debian without any floppies. On the other hand if you have a non-standard CD-ROM Red Hat is almost impossible to install. Also, unless things have changed since 4.1 (the last RH version I used) version upgrades are almost as painful as a new installation, which is definitely not the case with Debian (even hamm). Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[tcsh] disabling autologout?
Hi, How do I diable autologout in tcsh? The man page tells me how I can enable it. The problem seems to be that even under X my DISPLAY is not being set and tcsh running under xterm keeps logging me out after a period of inactivity. S. -- "Whom the gods would destroy, they first teach BASIC." Sudhakar C13n International Websites Engineer http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Marco Anglesio wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: > > I don't believe that is true > > I am using pine under hamm obn my pc here at work > > Yes, you and me both downloaded the .deb of pine (and pico, and > pine-docs, probably). However, it's been removed from binary-i386. I'd > like to know why it's only there in source form, if anyone can answer > that. This is becoming a FAQ. The reason the binary pine was removed from the archive is because the pine licence from uwash doesn't permit redistribution of "derivative works", which includes the patched version of pine that we had been mistakenly been distributing in binary form. Pine sources are available on the archive in debian source format. It is reasonably easy to compile a binary package for your own use from that, but we can't redistribute the binarys ourselves. Many people have been migrating to mutt, which suffers none of pine's non-freeness and seems to have some more features (and which is more frequently updated). -- Scott K. Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: why debian?
>As we all know, public profiles & reality often differ... >RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed >to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ >superior.. speaking of profiles & reality differing :) You're off by 6 :) Either boot from a cd, or if you already have a working dos partition, copy the install files to c:\ The only reason you'd ever need 6 is if you have a machine with no prior OS and no CD. Though I usually boot off the root disk anyway, wiht just the other files around, but that's because I never bothered to figure out loadlin :) rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: > I don't believe that is true > I am using pine under hamm obn my pc here at work Yes, you and me both downloaded the .deb of pine (and pico, and pine-docs, probably). However, it's been removed from binary-i386. I'd like to know why it's only there in source form, if anyone can answer that. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life is like a bad margarita with good tequila, http://squawk.klue.on.ca I thought, as I poured whiskey onto my granola Running Debian Linux 2.0 and faced a new day. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new ATI Mach64 boards, expert@work, 3D RAGE II+
>From a search of the list archives looking for info on the Mach64 server, I've seen references to the fact that some of the recent ATI boards ([EMAIL PROTECTED], 3D RAGE II+ chips) don't work with the Mach64 server supplied with Debian 1.3.1.r6. One reply indicated that downloading the XFree86 package numbered *_3.3.2-3.deb (which I found in the unstable hierarchy) would fix the problem. I started with the Mach64 server of that release and immediately got a dependency problem: it requires libc6. Do I understand correctly that libc6 will only work with the full Debian 2.0 release and that I should wait until this release is closer to stable before I update the XF86 package for these new boards? Or is there another way of using the newer drivers (re-compiling the source, or something) that allows me to use these boards with 1.3.1.r6? One problem with the 3D RAGE II+ (sorry for the shouting, but it's the chip name given not-too-intelligently, in my mind, by the manufacturers) seems related to video memory. Our boards have 4M, but the normal configuration setup (xf86config) comments out the "VideoRam 4096" line in the XF86Config file. The server refuses to start with messages indicating that the board has insufficient memory for any of the listed modes, an indication, I assume, that the server is not probing the board properly for memory info. When I uncomment this line, I get some results with some modes, but multiple images on the screen, etc. This reminds me of the problems I had about 2 years ago when updating XFree86 (to 3.1 or something) immediately fixed these problems, rather than having to re-calculate the figures in the mode lines. Thanks, --Steve Izma, Wilfrid Laurier University Press Waterloo, Ont., Canada N2L 3C5 (519) 884-0710 ext. 6125 FAX: (519) 725-1399 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another Debian 2.0 Question - GMT
"Oliver Elphick" wrote: > Use tzconfig to set your timezone. > > Then set your clock right with date. > > Finally, use hwclock --hctosys --utc to set your hardware clock to the > current Universal time. If you want to use local zone time instead of GMT (for instance if your machine is dual boot with a DOS system), edit the GMT vaiable in /etc/default/rcS. I use local time, and my /etc/default/rcS reads: # Set GMT="-u" if your system clock is set to GMT, and GMT="" if not. GMT="" Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) Palm City, FL USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
Ian Stuart wrote (Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:14:33 + ): |>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: |>> > |>> > RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed |>> > to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ |>> > superior.. |>> |>I feel I must clarify my position here - I've done ally my installs from |>FTP sites. |> |>It's one of the advantages of working for an Academic site |> |>In this situation, RedHat seems to offer an easier install... |> I have to jump in here. If you're installing from FTP sites, you only need 2 floppies maximum: the rescue/boot disk and the drivers disk (as Isabelle noted). I've done all my installs (granted only two =)) from an academic site, and I've never used more than two disks. Perhaps you didn't realize that the base system could be installed over FTP? There may be advantages to Red Hat, but I don't think they are in the installation process... -alan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maarten Bezemer) wrote: > Someone told me there are far more rpm-packages available, and other > distributions also use rpm. What's true about that? The core set of RPM packages, what RedHat produces, is much smaller than Debian's main distribution. While some other companies and groups distribute their software in RPM form, the majority of the RPM packages that you are hearing about are put together by RedHat users, and therefore can be of somewhat dubious quality. Debian has a policy document to specify how things should be done (to avoid problems), and almost all of Debian's packages (a few packages are looking for new maintainers) are supported through its bug tracking system. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows
Hi Mike, Below is the message I sent to some one else who was having problems with his Voodoo Rush card. I hope that it helps. -Ossama Forwarded message: -- I too have a card with the Voodoo Rush chipset, an Intergraph Intense 3D Voodoo. The Xserver/driver that you want is in the latest XF86_SVGA server, i.e. in XF86 3.3.2. I'm not sure if that is available as a bo set of packages. If it isn't just download the Linux_ix86 XF86-3.3.2 binaries (not the glibc ones) from any XF86 mirror. The glibc XF86 binaries are for Linux libc6/glibc2, not Linux libc5 which is what is normally found on bo systems (Debian 1.3.1) such as yours. -- The binaries you might want to get include: XF86SVGA.tgz XF86bin.tgz XF86lib.tgz XF86set.tgz XF86cfg.tgz and perhaps some others and some fonts. Use your judgement and read the binary installation instructions. :) >From what I recall, the tar files are archived relative to /usr/X11R6. Be careful where XF86Setup and/or xf86config store the XF86Config file after you are done configuring X. Debian places the XF86Config file in /etc/X11 and XF86 stores it in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/(something or other) by default. You can choose where to save the XF86Config file right after the setup is done, I believe. Also, if the setup/config programs ask you whether or not to set a symbolic link to X, then answer "no" or whatever the negative response is. Debian's "X" is an suid wrapper for the X server. The server to use is set at the very top of /etc/X11/Xserver. Good luck. -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
Isabelle Dauthieu wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: > > > > where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me > > > what distribution is better? > > >From my own experience (a portable using a PCMCIA network adapter), > > > > RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed > > to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ > > superior.. > > Just a correction : debian now only needs 1 floppy to install > if your CDrom is quite standard. If it is not the case, you will need 2 > floppies (the rescue disk and the drivers disks which contain drivers for > all CDroms). I feel I must clarify my position here - I've done ally my installs from FTP sites. It's one of the advantages of working for an Academic site In this situation, RedHat seems to offer an easier install... -- Ian Stuart Medicine & Veterinary Medicine Computing Support The University of Edinburgh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: > Chris de Weth wrote: > > I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red > > Hat linux? > As a newbie to this arena, my impression is that RedHat has a better > public profile. > > As we all know, public profiles & reality often differ... I may add that red hat CD's are easier to find than debian ones (well in France). > > I'm thinking of going to use Linux at work, so security is quite > > important. From a friend I just got this list address, and I don't know > > where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me > > what distribution is better? > >From my own experience (a portable using a PCMCIA network adapter), > > RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed > to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ > superior.. Just a correction : debian now only needs 1 floppy to install if your CDrom is quite standard. If it is not the case, you will need 2 floppies (the rescue disk and the drivers disks which contain drivers for all CDroms). In my humble opinion, there is no great difference between installing a debian or a red hat distribution, but upgrading a debian one is far easier. Moreover a debian installation is able to install redhat packages, the reverse is false. So I would advise to use debian, and if you need something that can only be found in redhat, you'll be able to install it without any problem. Isabelle Perinelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID installation
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: > I want to install Debian in a RAID 5 w/ 4 9.1GB HDs server. Are there > something that I must know? Yes, you must know how to do that. :-) Read the relevant HOWTOs and man pages. Documents you should read include at least: /usr/doc/HOWTO/Multi-Disk-HOWTO.gz /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Software-RAID.gz and the man pages in the raidtools package Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faster swap by using separate disk?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mark Phillips writes: > > > > > > I have been wondering about whether putting a swap partition on one IDE > > drive, while putting most of linux on a different IDE drive will speed up > > swap by allowing both disks to be accessed at the same time. > > > > Unfortunately I think I read somewhere that when you have a Master/Slave > > IDE pair, only one of the disks can be accessed at any one time, so that > > having the swap partition on a separate disk doesn't help. > > > > However my motherboard is capable of using 4 ide devices. It has two > > pairs: > > > > Primary Master/Primary Slave > > and > > Secondary Master/Secondary Slave > > > > What if I put linux on one of the primary disks, and the swap partition on > > a secondary disk, will that mean both disks can be accessed at the same > > time, hence giving a swap speedup? > > You need to think in terms of available "bandwidth". If the swap > partition is on the same cable as the root partition, then it has to > share the bandwidth with the other partition(s). Moving the swap > partition to the secondary controller (where it is by itself), will > increase available bandwidth. You can use this trick with a CDROM drive > also. No, there is more to it than this. If the OS send a (read, write or whatever) command to an IDE disk, the IDE controller is 'busy' until the command is fully completed. All this time you can not use the other disk on the same controller at all. So, if you try to read a lot of data from both disks simultaneously, they'll be spending a lot of time just waiting for each other. If you put the disks at two different controllers, you don't have this problem. > The second thing that you can do is to move up to the new "ultra-DMA" > IDE drives. The bandwidth (bytes per second) is much higher than the > standard IDE drives and will speed up Linux as a whole. If you want to really speed up your hard drives, switch to multiple SCSI drives. Period. > The third thing that you can do to speed up your system is add more memory so > that you don't even need to access the swap partition. True, but I know from experience that if you add more RAM, you'll use it all eventually. I have 48MB in my system nowadays and I still use the swap partitions I have. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 10:09:52PM +1000, Chris wrote:
> Can anybody tell me when hamm is expected to go stable?
When the're no more release critical bugs left. A list of these is posted on
debian-devel-announce with some regularity (latest:
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-announce-9804/msg2.html).
This list is derived from the list of bugs with Severity:
{critical,grave,important} as registered with the bug tracking system
(http://www.debian.org/Bugs/).
There's recently been an announcment about this:
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9804/msg01102.html which
also explains what you can do to help.
HTH,
Ray
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Re: Faster swap by using separate disk?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, tko wrote: > Mark Phillips writes: > > > > I have been wondering about whether putting a swap partition on one IDE > > drive, while putting most of linux on a different IDE drive will speed up > > swap by allowing both disks to be accessed at the same time. > > > > What if I put linux on one of the primary disks, and the swap partition on > > a secondary disk, will that mean both disks can be accessed at the same > > time, hence giving a swap speedup? > > You need to think in terms of available "bandwidth". If the swap partition is > on the same cable as the root partition, then it has to share the bandwidth > with the other partition(s). Moving the swap partition to the secondary > controller (where it is by itself), will increase available bandwidth. Why /the/ swap partition? Put one on each disk if you want. That way, the system can choose which to use according to load. See /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Multiple...whatsits... Cheers, -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID configuration in hamm install?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hello Remco! > > On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > > > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm novice to RAID, and I want to try with it. I would like to know if > > > hamm provices in its installation the tools to setup a RAID0 (stripping) > > > installation. Also I would like to know if the menu for installation has > > > RAID0 configuration options > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Ulisses > > > > > > PD: Does debian.org ships hamm? > > > > Sorry for the late reply, I am catching up with the mailing list. > > Thanks for your reply! :-) > > Your info is great for me! > > ...but... you have make a mistake ;-) > in hamm mdutils has been replaced by raidtools Yes, silly me. I knew that, I just didn't think of it. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
newbie :X & Arena www brower
I have been unable to get arena www broweser working and configure X windows to load stuff automatically? I ran dselect ,arena is installed (dkpg -s arena).Its not on any menu on any of the window managers(wm),In the xterm I typed arena,get message bad command error.Days have past.Now I'm about to try to install netscape in the next couple of hrs! Simply I have got afterstep as the default window manager.I want fwm2 to be it. ran update-menus but when I was using olwvm it only has two menu options. Which docs will be helpful ?I can't find anything on .xsession file.I can't read html stuff!. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network startup script
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> Can anyone suggest why this script doesn't seem to work on 2.1.90?
> It's my /etc/init.d/network. I added the netmask on the route line
> for lo because it seemed to help, but I still get some other errors,
> and ifconfig seems to hang.
>
> #!/bin/sh
> ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
> route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0
>
> IPADDR=203.14.18.11
> NETMASK=255.255.255.128
> NETWORK=203.14.18.0
> BROADCAST=203.14.18.127
> GATEWAY=203.14.18.1
>
> ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
> route add -net ${NETWORK}
> route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
The 2.1.x series kernels automagically add the net routes by default. If
you need to override them, you need to provide the netmask and other
information as well, it isn't extrapolated anymore. I've edited my
/etc/init.d/network as follows (it might be good for the netconfig stuff
from hamm to do something similar):
--- snip ---
#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
# 2.1.x kernels don't need this and emit harmless but annoying errors
if [ `/sbin/kernelversion` = "2.0" ] ; then
route add -net 127.0.0.0
fi
IPADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=xxx.xxx.xxx.0
BROADCAST=xxx.xxx.xxx.255
GATEWAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
# 2.1.x kernels don't need this and emit harmless but annoying errors
if [ `/sbin/kernelversion` = "2.0" ] ; then
route add -net ${NETWORK}
fi
[ "${GATEWAY}" ] && route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
--- snip ---
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Re: kernels
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Can anyone suggest an easy way to ensure that I never download a debian > kernel package where I already have a custom kernel installed? > dpkg/apt/dselect > continually replace my kernel-package-2.0.33 with the standard one, > which doesn't suite my hardware at all of course (and causes random reboots > during startup in fact, as some kernels do --- bzImage problem I think). > > I guess I can always build mine with --revision 9 or something. > Is there an easier way? Is there an easy way to get dpkg or apt > to set packages to hold from the command line? I always build kernel.debs with these switches to kernel-package: make-kpkg --revision 3:custom.1.0 kernel_image The "--revision custom.x.y" should do it already, because "custom" is evaluated as a higher number than anything the kernel-image maintainer puts in the default package. Notice that I added an epoch (3:) to satisfy all lingering paranoia. Thi should not be necessary under normal circumstances, but there have been moments when the kernel-images in the distribution had an epoch (1:) too, thus replacing any home-crafted kernel-images with a custom version number. I assume that the kernel-image will never need an epoch of level three (knock knock.) Cheers, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
Stephen Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't believe that is true > I am using pine under hamm obn my pc here at work > well..I have it installed...due to problems with firewall issues and DHCP > I can't seem to get mail working but... > I downloaded pine as a binary for hamm > I saw the deb of hamm in hamm/non-free/binary-i386/mail > -Steve There may have been a pine binary .deb for hamm before people got the license figured out. The fact is, the University of Washington forbids distributing modified binary versions of pine. (There was a binary .deb in bo because the license isn't perfectly clear that that's forbidden, but if you look for it, it's there) Yes, this is highly annoying. Yes, many people have tried to get them to change it, with no success. I know many people annoyed at pine's non-freeness have chosen to go with mutt - you may want to look at that. The original post also asked about the enlightenment wm. The list of prospective packages (http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html) lists it as one that's being "worked on". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stopping XDM
On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Shaleh wrote: > All daemons in Debian can be stopped by calling the start-stop-daemon. > An easier way is to look in /etc/init.d and call its script. for XDM it > is /etc/init.d/xdm stop (start would restart it). Yes, and change the line 'start-xdm' in /etc/X11/config into 'no-start-xdm' if you don't want xdm to be started at boot time. But if you want to stop xdm, you must do this before you change this file or the /etc/init.d/xdm script will not stop xdm. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to hamm
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, George Bonser wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Chris wrote: > > > I am, however, conserned about stablility... > > > > Does anyone know of any major problems with a hamm system? > > > > Chris > > Only on systems that have run 2.0.33. All systems running 2.0.32 are > fine. There are none of the problems that Red Hat has been having with > its 5.0 release. And some 2.0.33 systems (mine at least) are quite stable with hamm. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faster swap by using separate disk?
Thomas Kocourek wrote: [...] > > And lastly, if you are > using EDO memory SIMMs and your motherboard supports SDRAM memory, switch over > to SDRAM. You can get a large speed up doing this alone. My kernel > compile times used to be ~35 minutes. When I changed from EDO to SDRAM, the > kernel compile times dropped to 12 minutes (without any other changes). That is impressive. Did you install the same amount SDRAM as EDO RAM? What type of CPU have you got? Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to hamm
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 12:29:39AM -0700, George Bonser wrote: > There are some rather severe problems with memory corruption. Generally, > you will only see them on busy systems. Other problems include memory > leaks, filesystem problems and system hangs. There are also networking > issues. 2.0.33 is pretty bad. It DID introduce some hardware support that > other kernels did not have. > > You are better off with 2.0.32 until 2.0.34 which I hope will be out > pretty soon. It is currently at pre7 or 8. See freshmeat for details on > where to find it if you want to build it. I have 2.0.33 running on an ABIT IT5H 2.0, K6-233 w/ 64 megs of RAM. It's rock solid, but when I add another 64 megs, things start to segfault all over the place. Is that a symptom of this problem? Should I switch to 2.0.32 or 34pre? My K6 is one of the ">32M bug free" ones. I suspected the memory immediately and took it out. But it appears to be good stuff -- 60ns Micron EDO, just like what was already in there. Naturally, it also passes every memory test I throw at it. Thanks, Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faster swap by using separate disk?
Mark Phillips writes: > > > I have been wondering about whether putting a swap partition on one IDE > drive, while putting most of linux on a different IDE drive will speed up > swap by allowing both disks to be accessed at the same time. > > Unfortunately I think I read somewhere that when you have a Master/Slave > IDE pair, only one of the disks can be accessed at any one time, so that > having the swap partition on a separate disk doesn't help. > > However my motherboard is capable of using 4 ide devices. It has two > pairs: > > Primary Master/Primary Slave > and > Secondary Master/Secondary Slave > > What if I put linux on one of the primary disks, and the swap partition on > a secondary disk, will that mean both disks can be accessed at the same > time, hence giving a swap speedup? You need to think in terms of available "bandwidth". If the swap partition is on the same cable as the root partition, then it has to share the bandwidth with the other partition(s). Moving the swap partition to the secondary controller (where it is by itself), will increase available bandwidth. You can use this trick with a CDROM drive also. The second thing that you can do is to move up to the new "ultra-DMA" IDE drives. The bandwidth (bytes per second) is much higher than the standard IDE drives and will speed up Linux as a whole. The third thing that you can do to speed up your system is add more memory so that you don't even need to access the swap partition. And lastly, if you are using EDO memory SIMMs and your motherboard supports SDRAM memory, switch over to SDRAM. You can get a large speed up doing this alone. My kernel compile times used to be ~35 minutes. When I changed from EDO to SDRAM, the kernel compile times dropped to 12 minutes (without any other changes). -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID installation
I want to install Debian in a RAID 5 w/ 4 9.1GB HDs server. Are there something that I must know? TIA Leonardo Ruoso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows
Hi, > I own a Hercules Stingray 128/3D 3DFX card (pci)6 megs vidram. > and when I do xwindows, I get gigantic icons and screens. > has anyone else ran across this problem, if have please let me know how > you repaired it. I own an Intergraph Intense 3D Voodoo which has the same Voodoo Rush chipset your card has and I have had no problems. Are you using the latest XF86 distribution and server (XF86_SVGA)? I am using XF86-3.3.2 on my hamm system. By the way, only 4MB of your RAM is useable by Linux. The other 2MB is for textures which may be used by applications that use Glide for Linux, for example. I'm not sure if the Glide library with Voodoo Rush support has been ported to Linux yet, however. -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Maarten Bezemer wrote: > I installed Debian 1.3.1 even without any floppy (one actually, the boot > disk created after the install to boot the new system) > Just booted from CD and all went quite easy. If your system didn't support > IDE/ATAPI-CDROM boot, you only need the first (rescue) floppy, the drivers > disk is on the CD. > Someone told me there are far more rpm-packages available, and other > distributions also use rpm. What's true about that? I use Debian, too. I like it very much. I think Red Hat has more publicity since they can spend the money. They are a commercial company that can do that. Debian are a bunch of volunteers that don't have a lot of money. As for the rpm-packages - Debian can read those with the alian package. Furthermore, Debian has twice more packages then RedHat (at least that what the Debian peoples say...) Liran Zvibel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xwindows
Hi, I own a Hercules Stingray 128/3D 3DFX card (pci)6 megs vidram. and when I do xwindows, I get gigantic icons and screens. has anyone else ran across this problem, if have please let me know how you repaired it. Mike Holliday -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE Beta-3
>> > trying to install KDE beta-3, I have downloaded the .deb files and I am >> > trying to install them but it is saying that I need libgif2 or greater, Does >> > anyone know where I can get this from as I can't find it anywhere? And is it >> > avaliable in .deb format? >> >>KDE is sort of a non-Debian *.deb. As I understand it the package was made by >> the KDE folks and is still pretty broken. I found it was interesting that it >> installs itself into /opt rather than /usr/local or some other standard directory. >> My solution was to kill the package and to wait until there is real Debian support >> for it. I ran it on my RedHat system before I upgraded my RedHat Dist and Beta-3 ran ok not many problems at all. I would but I don't like many of the others window managers. /opt is new directory in the FHS if i remember correclty, Netscape Communicator 4 will install itself in there if if exists by default to. Regards Graham >> >> -- >> Regards,|Debian GNU/__ o http://www.debian.org >> . | / /__ _ _ _ _ __ __ >> Randy | / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / >> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) |// /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ >> |...because lockups are for convicts... >> |What is or why Linux? Click on the below: >> http://www8.zdnet.com/pcmag/pctech/content/16/13/os1613.001.html >> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-I- Re: email sendmail problems?
Ignore this.. i think i may have fixed it. :( Sorry about the flood of 'newbie' questions. Heheeh :) Carroll Kong On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Carroll Kong wrote: > For odd reasons, I cannot send email to one user on my college network. > Pine immediately says, blahblah username not found. Not sending. I thought > it > is supposed to send it with sendmail?!?! Have I configured sendmail > improperly? > > > Carroll Kong > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernels
Hi, > Can anyone suggest an easy way to ensure that I never download a debian > kernel package where I already have a custom kernel installed? > dpkg/apt/dselect > continually replace my kernel-package-2.0.33 with the standard one, > which doesn't suite my hardware at all of course (and causes random reboots > during startup in fact, as some kernels do --- bzImage problem I think). Just place your kernel-image package on hold in dselect, i.e. highlight the kernel-image package in dselect and press the "=" button. That will prevent your kernel-image from being upgraded. I've done the same. -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
Hi, > combination in between. It has a good package system and does not seem to > have > as many bugs as redhat. Although I could be wrong since red hat has a lot of > patches. Try them yourself and get a feel for it. This could be interpreted several ways. Either RedHat is quicker at getting bugs fixed, RedHat has more bugs, Debian is slower at getting bugs repaired or Debian has less bugs. I tend to think that Debian is a technically superior distribution, i.e. in the way it is put together and managed, perhaps resulting in less bugs. I've spoken to a colleague who uses RedHat 5.0. He told me the initial release was _very_ buggy. Hence, RedHat would almost have to put out many patches. Don't get me wrong, I believe RedHat to be a fine distribution, too. I just prefer Debian. -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
> There is no "better" distribution. It is a matter of taste and style. >I like slackware, but it has no package system. :) I find Debian to be a nice >combination in between. It has a good package system and does not seem to have >as many bugs as redhat. Although I could be wrong since red hat has a lot of >patches. Try them yourself and get a feel for it. > > >Carroll Kong > >On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Chris de Weth wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red >> Hat linux? To me it seems that they have a far greater community to >> support others questions. >> I'm thinking of going to use Linux at work, so security is quite >> important. From a friend I just got this list address, and I don't know >> where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me >> what distribution is better? >> >> Well, security is definitely prioritised a lot with Debian - one of the first questions it asks you is whether you want to install shadow passwords. I haven't had any real problems with my Debian 1.3 then 2.0 frozen systems - with that superb package system it all works fine. However, Red Hat is supposedly a lot easier to use. Graham Pople ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) SNES emulators at Emulation One (http://www.jalna.demon.co.uk/index.htm) All emulators at E1 Newsletter (http://www.jalna.demon.co.uk/e1news.htm) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
email sendmail problems?
For odd reasons, I cannot send email to one user on my college network. Pine immediately says, blahblah username not found. Not sending. I thought it is supposed to send it with sendmail?!?! Have I configured sendmail improperly? Carroll Kong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernels
Can anyone suggest an easy way to ensure that I never download a debian kernel package where I already have a custom kernel installed? dpkg/apt/dselect continually replace my kernel-package-2.0.33 with the standard one, which doesn't suite my hardware at all of course (and causes random reboots during startup in fact, as some kernels do --- bzImage problem I think). I guess I can always build mine with --revision 9 or something. Is there an easier way? Is there an easy way to get dpkg or apt to set packages to hold from the command line? thanks, Hamish -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE Beta-3
>Hi all, > >I am trying to install KDE beta-3, I have downloaded the .deb files and I am >trying to install them but it is saying that I need libgif2 or greater, Does >anyone know where I can get this from as I can't find it anywhere? And is it >avaliable in .deb format? Providing you have installed KDEsupport, which provides libgif2, you don't need libgif 2. As it says in the KDE FAQ, just type dpkg -i --force-depends .deb and it will ignore all dependencies for that package. > >Also if you install a .tgz format program (i.e. source compile and install) how >do you tell dpkg that the required files are installed, as doesn't it look at >its package database to se if the .deb package it needs is installed? > >Regards > >Graham > > Again, just use force-depends to overide dependencies, and hopefully it should work. Incidentally, I think I remember you when I was trying to get KDE beta 3 to work myself - if it was you, then thanks, as I eventually got it up and running! Graham Pople ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) SNES emulators at Emulation One (http://www.jalna.demon.co.uk/index.htm) All emulators at E1 Newsletter (http://www.jalna.demon.co.uk/e1news.htm) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
network startup script
Can anyone suggest why this script doesn't seem to work on 2.1.90?
It's my /etc/init.d/network. I added the netmask on the route line
for lo because it seemed to help, but I still get some other errors,
and ifconfig seems to hang.
#!/bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0
IPADDR=203.14.18.11
NETMASK=255.255.255.128
NETWORK=203.14.18.0
BROADCAST=203.14.18.127
GATEWAY=203.14.18.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
This script seems to need changing every few new kernels. I wish
they would make up their mind.
Hamish
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Re: why debian?
There is no "better" distribution. It is a matter of taste and style. I like slackware, but it has no package system. :) I find Debian to be a nice combination in between. It has a good package system and does not seem to have as many bugs as redhat. Although I could be wrong since red hat has a lot of patches. Try them yourself and get a feel for it. Carroll Kong On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Chris de Weth wrote: > Hi! > > I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red > Hat linux? To me it seems that they have a far greater community to > support others questions. > I'm thinking of going to use Linux at work, so security is quite > important. From a friend I just got this list address, and I don't know > where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me > what distribution is better? > > > __ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
I don't believe that is true I am using pine under hamm obn my pc here at work well..I have it installed...due to problems with firewall issues and DHCP I can't seem to get mail working but... I downloaded pine as a binary for hamm I saw the deb of hamm in hamm/non-free/binary-i386/mail -Steve Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Chris wrote: > > > Can anybody tell me when hamm is expected to go stable? > > > > Also, I am in the middle of installing a hamm system onto a clean drive, > > however it seems alot of old packages are missing (ie. pine, etc). Will > > these be included when it goes stable? > > pine is distributed in source-only form (but with Debian patches, > so that you may create .deb packages for it). You will have to compile > it yourself. Get the .dsc, .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz files from the > FTP archives (hamm/non-free/source/mail) and do the following: > > dpkg-source -x pine_3.96L-7.dsc > cd pine-3.96L > debian/rules binary (under root) > > That's all. Then you can dpkg -i pine.deb > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: 2.6.3ia > Charset: latin1 > > iQCVAgUBNTSreyqK7IlOjMLFAQFPnQP/cJ3QjjhvfEHrXENW6zQOxv+9MgQ8n1vV > I8YwM3HXHvtM1ER4F5fGoaw8Wky42hlZ6N4ceTn1vaf9bMBGeyYt5GVw3qC5KJVZ > hTdLi/OzC/2WK14Mo5cZC7uBtDvuXMJ0zowcCf01wfDd9ZfI2kst8dj8l8oXB6GK > B7fWVTagQ1s= > =QMnw > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE Beta-3
Hi all, I am trying to install KDE beta-3, I have downloaded the .deb files and I am trying to install them but it is saying that I need libgif2 or greater, Does anyone know where I can get this from as I can't find it anywhere? And is it avaliable in .deb format? Also if you install a .tgz format program (i.e. source compile and install) how do you tell dpkg that the required files are installed, as doesn't it look at its package database to se if the .deb package it needs is installed? Regards Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
Chris wrote: > Can anybody tell me when hamm is expected to go stable? I forget whether a date is set or not...but my system crashed due to major hardware failure (I am respondign from work now)...hamm seems rather stable > Also, I am in the middle of installing a hamm system onto a clean drive, > however it seems alot of old packages are missing (ie. pine, etc). Will > these be included when it goes stable? I have been dowloading files at work and burning CDs... Pine is in "non-free" ...I noticed some things missing too... I saw Apache (web server) listed in Packages but...the deb file was not there...then again...I bvurened my hamm CD before the code freeze... just remember to check out non-free and all the toher places you never know where a package could end up > Another thing - is there any plans for debianizing the enlightenment > window manager? hmm I think I looked at Enlightenment...and I think it looked coolthat was a while ago tho... > Thanks alot, > > chris > > BTW. I noticed that the rescue target doesn't work on the new rescue > disk, nor does the base installation install any kernel modules... > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Chris wrote: > Can anybody tell me when hamm is expected to go stable? > > Also, I am in the middle of installing a hamm system onto a clean drive, > however it seems alot of old packages are missing (ie. pine, etc). Will > these be included when it goes stable? pine is distributed in source-only form (but with Debian patches, so that you may create .deb packages for it). You will have to compile it yourself. Get the .dsc, .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz files from the FTP archives (hamm/non-free/source/mail) and do the following: dpkg-source -x pine_3.96L-7.dsc cd pine-3.96L debian/rules binary (under root) That's all. Then you can dpkg -i pine.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNTSreyqK7IlOjMLFAQFPnQP/cJ3QjjhvfEHrXENW6zQOxv+9MgQ8n1vV I8YwM3HXHvtM1ER4F5fGoaw8Wky42hlZ6N4ceTn1vaf9bMBGeyYt5GVw3qC5KJVZ hTdLi/OzC/2WK14Mo5cZC7uBtDvuXMJ0zowcCf01wfDd9ZfI2kst8dj8l8oXB6GK B7fWVTagQ1s= =QMnw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to hamm
I was in the same position as you as of yesterday. I upgraded, although, i had to use the upgrade script three times (well just to make sure, I only needed to do it twice) for dependencies. However, I could not figure out how to reexecute the script installation after the first time, so I redownloaded all the files again! No big deal to me since i have a good inet connect, anyone know how do resolve this? (can i just goto /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/base/ and install all the .debs manually?!? How can i get the script to auto continue and do it again without redownloading everything?!?) Ok... after that, I rebooted. I did the /var/wtmp and utmp fix which is told in the autoup.sh. (or else who and last do not work... and they really don't unless you do it. :) ) Then.. the dreaded hamm upgrade! I advise not doing this while you are in X (the hamm upgrade). Use dselect to get the hamm package, (I had a cd of the packages so I escaped unscathed), ftp dselect failed for me... but someone told me how to do it. Try this. "Use "dists/frozen/main dists/frozen/contrib dists/frozen/non-free". It works fine for me." This is quoted from Bob who assisted me. I did not try it, but it should work. ftp.debian.org has the newest packages btw. My grep was broken on the CD, however, the new package fixes it. My sendmail broke too after the hamm packages upgrade, I got sendmail.8.8.8-14.deb and had to install it twice. (weird eh?) Then it finally went. I had to do some funky things with the sendmail.mf and .cf and what not to get it working... although it works now. (heheh i should get the crab book). Aside from that, not too painful, but reconfiguring afterstep 1.4 took a bit of time. Generally took 8 hours for me to fully reconfigure and feel happy about the system again. (it takes me a while for these things). Hope this helps. (no unstablility yet...) Carroll Kong On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Chris wrote: > > Hi, > > I am currently running a debian bo system, and I am considering upgrading > (or more to the point - re-installing) to a hamm system. > > I am, however, conserned about stablility... > > Does anyone know of any major problems with a hamm system? > > Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID installation
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 12:53:55PM +0200, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote: > I'm planning to install hamm on a system with raid0(stripping), but seems > to me that raidtools is not included in the base system so a raid > installation cann't be done through the installation method, so I suposse > the way to do this is to install the base system in a non-raid partition > and move it over the raid partitions after the installation completes. Hmm, you're correct, the bootdisks lack real RAID support. I've brought this up on the appropriate auditorium now. I don't think it will be changed for 2.0 but might be for 2.1. Yes, your way is correct. Please notice that you need take special attention if your root file system should be a RAID. Most of all other directories doesn't make problems. If you plan rootfs-raid, contact me again and I'll give you my setup. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / Install joe (Joey's Own Editor) correct: Joe's Own Editor / pgpjofvfe7ztX.pgp Description: PGP signature
A few things about Debian Hamm
Can anybody tell me when hamm is expected to go stable? Also, I am in the middle of installing a hamm system onto a clean drive, however it seems alot of old packages are missing (ie. pine, etc). Will these be included when it goes stable? Another thing - is there any plans for debianizing the enlightenment window manager? Thanks alot, chris BTW. I noticed that the rescue target doesn't work on the new rescue disk, nor does the base installation install any kernel modules... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mirror
How can I get mirror to leave the debian/contrib and debian/non-free directories but still retrieve the hamm | slink/contrib, hamm | slink/non-free directories ? If I add the lines exclude_patt+|contrib/ exlude_patt+|non-free/ to my mirror script it will not retrieve any of the contrib directories. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation
On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, Peter Luongo wrote: > i am trying to install Debian 1.3 and am not getting very far. instead > of loading and decompressing linux first, the rescue disk is trying to > load root.bin, and failing each time. it then just tells me that the > boot failed and to insert a new disk. I thought it might just be a > problem involving the reading of the floppy, but I have tried to boot > with four different disks, with the same result each time. any > suggestions would be appreciated. > -pete > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > this seems like your rescue disk wasn't written correctly. Try downloading and rawriting it again. It could also mean you've not enough memory or you have a virus. What kind of computer is it? Good luck! Maarten Bezemer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where did my init.d/boot go?
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 05:46:07AM +0200, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: (...) > > > > Your install is broken by buggy grep 2.1-6. > > I got the same result but I upgrade a copy of my system :) > > Get grep 2.1-7 and maybe reinstall all packages by hand (whith: dpkg -i). > > No, these are two different problems. grep_2.1-6 is severely broken and > should be replaced by a newer version. The boot.OLD file is not a bug or > an error, it is intended behaviour. The /etc/init.d/boot script has bee > split up into several scripts. Take a look in /etc/rcS.d/ to see what it > run in which order ar boot time. Yes, I know that /etc/init.d/boot has been split. Upgrading init files (and all others) was broken because grep_2.1-6 was installed and upgrade to grep_2.1-7 don't solve problems with broken system without reinstall all of broken packages :( > > If your sysvinit is really broken, you can boot Linux directly into bash. > At the LILO boot prompt, type > > linux init=/bin/bash > > This will load bash instead of init, so you get a root shell with no > questions asked. > Thanks for hint :) Mirek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: > > I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red > > Hat linux? > As a newbie to this arena, my impression is that RedHat has a better > public profile. > > As we all know, public profiles & reality often differ... > [snip] > RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed > to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ > superior.. I installed Debian 1.3.1 even without any floppy (one actually, the boot disk created after the install to boot the new system) Just booted from CD and all went quite easy. If your system didn't support IDE/ATAPI-CDROM boot, you only need the first (rescue) floppy, the drivers disk is on the CD. Someone told me there are far more rpm-packages available, and other distributions also use rpm. What's true about that? Greetings, Maarten Bezemer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
Chris de Weth wrote: > > Hi! > > I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red > Hat linux? As a newbie to this arena, my impression is that RedHat has a better public profile. As we all know, public profiles & reality often differ... > I'm thinking of going to use Linux at work, so security is quite > important. From a friend I just got this list address, and I don't know > where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me > what distribution is better? >From my own experience (a portable using a PCMCIA network adapter), RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ superior.. -- Ian Stuart Medicine & Veterinary Medicine Computing Support The University of Edinburgh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
