Re: shellscripts para todos

1998-05-01 Thread Jefe
Jaime E. Villate wrote:

 El superusuario normalmente no tiene el directorio actual (.) definido en
 el path, por motivos de seguridad, y conviene dejarlo asi; lo unico que tienes
 que hacer es acostumbrarte a escribir
 ./nombre-de-tu-script


Podrias precisar un poco qué motivos de seguridad son esos ?Muchas gracias por 
la
atención.






--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: alien y dpkg

1998-05-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 04:49:22PM +0200, R.Ll.V wrote:

 He convertido el Netscape comunicator en rpm a formato dev lo he instalado y
 al parecer sin problemas, todo parece estar donde deve. Pero al ejecutarlo
 me dice que no está instalado incluso en el propio directorio /usr/bin
 

puedes transcribir el mensaje que te da por favor?


Marcelo


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: shellscripts para todos

1998-05-01 Thread Jaime E. Villate
Jefe wrote:
 
 Jaime E. Villate wrote:
 
  El superusuario normalmente no tiene el directorio actual (.) definido en
  el path, por motivos de seguridad, y conviene dejarlo asi; lo unico que 
  tienes
  que hacer es acostumbrarte a escribir
  ./nombre-de-tu-script
 
 
 Podrias precisar un poco qui motivos de seguridad son esos ?Muchas gracias 
 por la
 atencisn.

Jesus Gonzalez ya te respondio muy bien a tu pregunta, pero quiero agregar
que por mas que trabajes solo en tu maquina, existe riesgo. Algunos programas
que reciben informacion de fuera crean archivos, por ejemplo en
/tmp. Imaginate que algun hacker logra meterte un archivo ejecutable con
nombre ls en tu directorio /tmp , que diga lo siguiente:
  %!/bin/sh
  rm -r /*
Tu inocentemente como superusuario vas a ver lo que tienes en el directorio
/tmp por medio de
  cd /tmp
  ls
y estas muerto!
Claro, las probabilidades de que eso ocurra son minimas, pero en Linux
no somos atacados constantemente por virus, como ocurre en WinDOZE y
MacinTOY, gracias a medidas de seguridad como esa de excluir . del path.

Feliz dia del trabajo.

Jaime Villate
Universidade do Porto


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: shellscripts para todos

1998-05-01 Thread José
Jaime E. Villate wrote:
 Jesus Gonzalez ya te respondio muy bien a tu pregunta, pero quiero agregar
 que por mas que trabajes solo en tu maquina, existe riesgo. Algunos programas
 que reciben informacion de fuera crean archivos, por ejemplo en
 /tmp. Imaginate que algun hacker logra meterte un archivo ejecutable con
 nombre ls en tu directorio /tmp , que diga lo siguiente:

Simplemente una aclaracion linguistica, pues desde siempre ha existido
confusion con estos dos terminos:

hacker = Persona que sabe un monton de ordenadores y disfruta
intentando conocer el funcionamiento de hasta el ultimo transistor de
que se compone, programando las cosas mas inverosimiles y que ademas no
se cuelgan y muchas veces regalandolo a la comunidad informatica para
que todo el mundo pueda aprovecharse de su hack

cracker = GAMBERRO que se dedica a infiltrarse en los ordenadores de
los demas con fines indeseables, tales como fisgonear informacion que no
le incumbe, usar su CPU o mandar a freir puñetas el contenido del disco
duro. Esta infiltracion puede ser tanto directa como indirecta por medio
de un cobarde virus.

El termino cracker se acuño despues para distinguir precisamente a los
hackers buenos de los malos que usan sus conocimientos con fines poco
honestos.

Saludillos.

Dani 
-- 
__
José Daniel Muñoz Frías[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Universidad Pontificia Comillas
ICAI. Depto. Electrónica y Automática

Alberto Aguilera 23 
28015 Madrid, Spain

Telf. 34-1-5422800   Fax: 34-1-5596569
__


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Problema libc6 arreglado y compilando Deity

1998-05-01 Thread M. Pascual
Hola:

Pues que los problemas que tenia en el cambio de libc5 a libc6 estaban en el
paquete Xlib6_3.3-6.deb, ha sido cuestion de cogerme el Xlib6_3.3.2-4.deb y
Xlib6g_3.3.2-4.deb y asunto arreglado.

Y ahora comento un error que me da al intentar compilar el
paquete deity_19980324-1.dsc; transcribo el error:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /instalar/deity/deity-19980324]# dpkg-buildpackage
no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME (root) at
/usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl line 16.
parsechangelog/debian: error: unable to open file
debian/substvars: No existe el fichero o el directorio
dpkg-buildpackage: cannot determine name of current package
   
Antes hice el dpkg-source -x nombre.fichero
He buscado el fichero/directorio substvars y no lo tengo, alguna sugerencia?

Gracias a todos lo que me contestaron.

M. Pascual
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mpascual.ddns.org


-BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
Version: 2.6.3ia
Charset = Latin1

mQBtAzTsrfEAAAEDAMSCRxEungod2qswlrTHayDKpdO9olev2Zd0wQGhmrSm2yOZ
dUmKZMCAZqWeFR+Zeo3dULZ6UmH2zvTLM38lIFZ71LiOJ6Xj1+B/dYtFc4Qnmc7E
2IdJ6NRienHdip2BrQAFEbQeTVBhc2N1YWwgPG1wYXNjdWFsQHJlZGVzdGIuZXM+
iQB1AwUQNOyt8WJ6cd2KnYGtAQEwigL+M5rLL7i659srdbUlKL/UyeB8Arvkgw/u
l+JtlmIcsJTrnKXj00I/JXgjlMfRDvXph0H3dHnRREDzgrYB3jQ25L+1+W+3dM32
ik/eaeLMnQgzYKxQJdjHh2MYOHcFlgbE
=M+Om
-END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: alien y dpkg

1998-05-01 Thread R.Ll.V

-Mensaje original-
De: Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Lista Devian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Fecha: viernes 1 de mayo de 1998 2:17
Asunto: Re: alien y dpkg


On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 04:49:22PM +0200, R.Ll.V wrote:

 He convertido el Netscape comunicator en rpm a formato dev lo he
instalado y
 al parecer sin problemas, todo parece estar donde deve. Pero al
ejecutarlo
 me dice que no está instalado incluso en el propio directorio /usr/bin
 

puedes transcribir el mensaje que te da por favor?

Como no:
despues de teclear netscape:
You don´t netscape installet
You don`t have installet

(durante el proceso de conversion a dev y posterior instalacion no me da
ningun mensaje de error y en el deselect me figura como instalado)

Gracias anticipadas:

Ricardo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Marcelo


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


hamm installation- rescue disk kernel panic

1998-05-01 Thread Donald Harter Jr.
I was trying to install hamm.  I booted the rescue disk and I got a
kernel panic. (kernel panic: VFS unable to mount root fs on 01:00)

Here are the messages before the crash:

partition check
hda: hda1 hda2 hda5 hda3 hda4
[MS-DOS FS Rel. 12, FAT0 .]
[me=0x0,cs=0,hf=0,fs=0,fl=0,ds=0,de=0,data=0,se=0,
fs=0,ls=0,ro=0,fc=4264967295] transaction block size=512


I have got linux and vfat partitions on this disk.

If someone can refer me to some instructions on how this rescue disk is
made,  I may try to make a custom kernel that might work.

Donald Harter Jr.



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


HELP - Host/IP mismatch causing mail denial

1998-05-01 Thread Colin Telmer
I have recently discovered that some mail being sent to my machine is
being denied by smtpd due to a host/ip mismatch. I value the security but
need to know this is happening. I have missed some very important mail
today because of it (don't know why I decided to check /var/log/daemon.log
just now but I am glad I did). Anyway, I was going to set up a simple
cronjob something like grep deny /var/log/daemon.log to let me know
about these but I was wondering if there is a better way to do this. Can I
get smail to somehow mail me immediately when this happens? Is ther
another way? Any help is gratefully appreciated. Cheers, Colin.

--
Colin Telmer, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.telmer.com


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

1998-05-01 Thread Lindsay Allen

Something else that may be relevant to this thread is mgetty.conf.  Mine
certainly messes with /dev/ttySx.

#  use these options to make the /dev/tty-device owned by uucp.uucp
#  and mode rw-rw-r-- (0664). *LEADING ZERO NEEDED!*
port-owner uucp
port-group uucp
# port-owner dialout
# port-group dialout
port-mode 0664

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lindsay Allen   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Perth, Western Australia
voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj  Debian Unix
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Bob Hilliard wrote:

  /dev/ttyS0 should have 660 permissions.  I frequently find my
 /dev/ttyS1 has changed to 640.  This can be caused by pppd terminating
 abnormally, and perhaps by other events.
 
 Bob
 -- 
_
   |_)  _  |_   Robert D. Hilliard[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   |_) (_) |_)  Palm City, FL  USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9
 
 
 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: bouncing mail with procmail

1998-05-01 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 07:01:44AM -0400, Paul Miller wrote:
 
 How can I bounce mail with procmail?  I've tried using |exit 111, but it
 complains about not being able to open the exit mail file...  Here is my
 current .procmailrc:
 
 LOGFILE=$HOME/mail.log
 :0
 * ! ^(FROM|TO).*tcimet.net
 |exit 111
 :0
 * ^(FROM|TO).*tcimet.net
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 This it not on my server, so I only have .forward and .procmailrc to work
 with.  Their MTA is sendmail 8.8.5.. Is there another way using .forward?

VERBOSE=off
MAILDIR=$HOME/.mail
PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail
LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log
SHELL=/bin/sh

:0
! ^(From:|To:).*tcimet.net
{
 EXITCODE=67

 :0
 /dev/null
}

:0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


pgphr4A6oDVsS.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..

1998-05-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 02:37:00PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 Now for the hashed over part.  Is there a sane and reasonable
 way to either convert an existing RedHat machine to Debian, or
 to start the Debian install from what I have now?  Remember, I
 can't use the Debian boot disk.  (I thought someone had a URL
 for this)

I did this once (but don't tell anyone because I wasn't supposed
to do that). What I did was take dpkg's package and extract its
contents using ar (.deb's are an ar file). I then extracted the
tar file (there are two tars in there, data.tar.gz and
control.tar.gz) on /. This gave me a dpkg to begin with. I
proceded to satisfy dpkg's dependencies (libc, libstdc++,
ncurses) by repeating the same procedure with the requiered
files. Please note this is VERY dangerous because you are
overwriting the libc (I did this with an RH 5 installation) and
many programs may break due to some sloppyness in RH. To get
dpkg working you have to touch some files (I cann't tell this by
heart) in /var/lib/dpkg. You also have to copy the control files
for the packages just installed. The next thing I did, as I
got a working dpkg, was install every deb in base (this
conflicts with RH boot method and some other stuff, you have to
be patient here, and it's better if you have as little RH as
possible). From here everything went very smoothly, because
after installing base/*.deb it's just like having installed
Debian using the floppies. There are some gotchas left, but
nothing big, as I remember.

I hope this helps somehow...

Marcelo

PS: As I was on a stealth mission at the time I had to do
everything as quickly as possible, and I hadn't the chance to
take notes; maybe you can take some and share the results?


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: COBOL?

1998-05-01 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 12:42:38PM -0400, K. Claussen wrote:
 3. I was wondering if anyone knew of any COBOL packages available for
 Linux? 

You are a masochist.  =p  =


pgpy3AA8Yylzl.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Free/OpenSource software?

1998-05-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 06:50:14PM -0400, Thomas Lakofski wrote:
 If you suspected this, there are ways in which it can be shown that your
 code has been stolen, as was done when Microsoft stole Stacker technology
 and called it Doublespace in DOS 6.2.  The risk of being caught is usually
 enough deterrent, as if you were caught, the license terms of GPL'd
 software would require the release of sources for all derivative works.

But weren't Microsoft found to have breached Stac's patent, rather than
stolen actual code? I think actual code would be harder to prove
than infringement of a patent.


Hmaish
-- 
Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5
CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.   http://hamish.home.ml.org


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: HELP - Host/IP mismatch causing mail denial

1998-05-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 08:09:51PM -0400, Colin Telmer wrote:
 I have recently discovered that some mail being sent to my machine is
 being denied by smtpd due to a host/ip mismatch. I value the security but
 need to know this is happening. I have missed some very important mail
 today because of it (don't know why I decided to check /var/log/daemon.log
 just now but I am glad I did). Anyway, I was going to set up a simple
 cronjob something like grep deny /var/log/daemon.log to let me know
 about these but I was wondering if there is a better way to do this. Can I
 get smail to somehow mail me immediately when this happens? Is ther
 another way? Any help is gratefully appreciated. Cheers, Colin.

Perhaps you would be better to disable this for mail; I run a corporate
server with Debian and don't find it particularly practical to leave this
check enabled -- I can't afford to not accept a customer's email just because
their ISP has not set up reverse DNS correctly.

To do that, change the line in /etc/hosts.deny which says

ALL: PARANOID

to

ALL except in.smtpd: PARANOID



Hamish
-- 
Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5
CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.   http://hamish.home.ml.org


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


[Fwd: LOCAL: Corel VNC/Open Source Public Announcement at OCLUG meeting]

1998-05-01 Thread Behan Webster
Wow.  Things seem to be spreading.  8)

I'm definitely going to try to attend this meeting!

Later,

Behan

-- 
Behan Webster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1-613-224-7547   http://www.verisim.com/
---BeginMessage---
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-


Hi Everyone,
Our next regular OCLUG meeting is being pushed ahead one day to
Thursday May 7th from 7-9pm. Location is still being worked out.
I am pleased to report the reason for this schedule rearrangement
is the public announcement that will deal with Corel's position on Open Source
Software and the importance of this new paradigm to Corel Computer Corp.
In attendance will be:
Dr. Michael Cowpland: President and CEO, Corel Corporation. Chairman of
Corel Computer Corp.
Mr. Eid Eid, President of Corel Computer Corp.
There will be possibly some officials from Netscape on hand also.

 Here is your chance to show support for the Open Source movement, Linux
and to the future of truly having choice when it comes to a computing
environment. I urge all members of OCLUG to come out to this and bring a friend
along too. This night will be of historic importance along the lines of the
Netscape announcement in February. The implications of showing your support by
attending will have a big influence possibly on more of this happening within
Corel and other companies. They need to know you care, let's show them we do!
Thanks
Dave Neil
Your OCLUG Spokes-person


- --
E-Mail: Dave Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29-Apr-98
Time: 21:47:44

This message was sent by XFMail
- --



- -- 
This article has been digitally signed by the moderator, using PGP.
http://www.iki.fi/mjr/cola-public-key.asc has PGP key for validating signature.
Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PLEASE remember a short description of the software and the LOCATION.
This group is archived at http://www.iki.fi/mjr/linux/cola.html

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 2.6.3ia
Charset: latin1

iQCVAgUBNUg211rUI/eHXJZ5AQG5GwP/RojSMhWuRvUmp/SQIy6SeDZ82l3R9jFy
E4qX/+6trSwtTKK2yaeGpH76xPY8qWlq+/lacHxqo35/+Z7FI1pTYOBQHH5cKNm2
CO6wCW1xcPjKjFNlnIrGo8tDmWiyABGB+QtPv+ZlbVzBMX5rW3BdP7axkI5DTFfC
kxrlLMFAKjc=
=7HbQ
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
---End Message---


Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..

1998-05-01 Thread Joel Klecker
At 14:37 -0500 1998-04-29, Nathan E Norman wrote:
Now for the hashed over part.  Is there a sane and reasonable way to
either convert an existing RedHat machine to Debian, or to start the
Debian install from what I have now?

project/experimental/dpkg_*_arch.nondebbin.tar.gz

--
Joel Espy Kleckermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://web.espy.org/
Debian GNU/Linux Developer...http://www.debian.org/



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Free/OpenSource software?

1998-05-01 Thread Thomas Lakofski
On Fri, 1 May 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 But weren't Microsoft found to have breached Stac's patent, rather than
 stolen actual code? I think actual code would be harder to prove
 than infringement of a patent.

Hmmm, from what I remember they had just lifted whole code segments from
Stacker and popped it into DOS, then they got caught and had to withdraw
6.2 and recode for 6.21.  I'm not sure that Stac could have had a patent
on that kind of real-time compression/decompression, since I'd seen it
before then on other systems.

On the other hand, I could be senile.  I hope not.

-thomas


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


sum

1998-05-01 Thread David B Wilson
Is there a way to compute a sun-style checksum on a debian machine?
(sum on linux and the suns produces different numbers)
  David


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


biff/new mail - blink LED indicators on keyboard

1998-05-01 Thread Paul Miller

Anyone know how I could have a cool LED animation when new mail arrives
(when I'm logged in or not)?  Something like a bouncing effect for the
first couple seconds and then have the scroll lock blink once every five
minutes or so...

I have a program called 'bl' that does make the keyboard lights blink, but
it only works if I'm logged on and I'm using the same tty as where it was
executed -- ie, sleep 3; bl -c console doesn't work when I switch to
another VC before sleep expires.. I don't know how it would work in X...

Anyone else tried this?

-Paul


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: linux shutdown

1998-05-01 Thread Stephen Carpenter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Thats not exactly true (as I pointed out earlier but I 
might have accidently not
sent my response ot the list)
actually sync;sync;halt would work fine...under ideal conditions :)
but...under debian linux (and redhat) it will work fine
in fatcyou can just forhget the double sync and call halt (or
reboot)
this was true that that was VERY BAD for a long time but...
check out the man page for halt:
   If halt or reboot is
   called when the system is not in runlevel 0  or  6,  shut
   down(8)  will be invoked instead (with the flag -h or -r).
since sync;sync doesn't change the runlevel...and at runlevel
0 or 6 you don't have a shell anyway...
yes it is a BAD practice becaus eon OLDER syetms and
other Unix-like OSs it is not gauranteed to weork
- -Steve


On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, George Bonser wrote:

 On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Arunas Norvaisa wrote:
 
   Dear all,
  
   I'm confused...
  
   Have RTFMing and am using 'shutdown -r now' to restart my system.
  BUT our system (Netware/Unix) admin (really old and experienced
  'wolf') have told me that he's using 'sync;sync;halt' and have tried
  to persuade me to use 'his' command.
 
 sync; sync; halt is bad. Do not listen to this old idiot. He is going to
 cause you filesystem corruption. Use either ctl-alt-delete, shutdown -r
 now.
 
 
 George Bonser
 
 If I had a catchy quip, it would be here.
 
 
 
 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 2.6.3a
Charset: noconv

iQCVAwUBNUk0snxvn0zebBV9AQG0NAP/ZIvgRFmXQkE9l/bDkNvzpvbGAnGpDeLy
0r/7yNPcbA1LUP1n/Rq2RXNw1F83S6llKNFAPGqMebwC/4UwOsffu0MRWu+kUNGG
97JARcK7SLadAwplLsprKIw/qhqUafPupIvmD36gAnuZD9CP2L8vNhhQcgXzoehU
jg7BXD9JDVY=
=mFML
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Sparc Q's (Sparcbook 3)

1998-05-01 Thread Plutonically Incorrect
Here is the scenario:

A teacher at school recently acquired a SparcBook 3 w/ 32 megs of ram and
a 520 meg HD (http://www.unixpac.com.au/vendors/tadpole/s3.html)

He was selling it for his friend (His friend works for a big company, when
the company upgrades, they give their machines to employees for a good
deal)

Anyways, apparently the guy who owned it wasnt so smart and corrupted
Solaris.  Since i dont have the solaris CD nor the CDE, I've decided to
trash it and get linux.

I bought Redhat 4.0 (or 4.2) SPARC version for 60 dollars, under the
impression it would work.  I've emailed them and they said to me that it
would work on a Sun4m machine, Sparcbooks. (note: they said it WOULD run
on a Sparcbook)

When i attempted to install Redhat, it would load, but it would error out
saying it could not find the proper video driver for my card.

I know Debian is getting into the sparc field, but I am curious on if they
are going to support Sparcbooks.  Im considering either donating this unit
or selling it for really cheap.  If anyone has any solutions or any
information for me i'd greatly appreciated it even if it is to laugh
at me :)


Thank you.



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: biff/new mail - blink LED indicators on keyboard

1998-05-01 Thread Thomas Lakofski
You might want to try this instead:

http://lcdproc.omnipotent.net/

it's a little lcd display going for about $70 which will show you all
kinds of system information, including whether you have mail, etc.

-thomas

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

 From: Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:19:31 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: biff/new mail - blink LED indicators on keyboard
 
 
 Anyone know how I could have a cool LED animation when new mail arrives
 (when I'm logged in or not)?  Something like a bouncing effect for the
 first couple seconds and then have the scroll lock blink once every five
 minutes or so...
 
 I have a program called 'bl' that does make the keyboard lights blink, but
 it only works if I'm logged on and I'm using the same tty as where it was
 executed -- ie, sleep 3; bl -c console doesn't work when I switch to
 another VC before sleep expires.. I don't know how it would work in X...
 
 Anyone else tried this?
 
 -Paul
 
 
 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-thomas


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


copying partitions/moving root partition

1998-05-01 Thread Paul Miller

I just got a new hard drive, and I'm wondering what I need to do to move
the root and other Linux partitions to the new drive?  Most importantly,
LILO!  Currently I boot off /dev/hda3 and I'm wanting to replace that hard
drive with a new one... which can temporarily replace the cdrom drive while
I move files around. 

---
Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Public PGP key at http://paul.3dillusion.com/pgpkey.txt


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: biff/new mail - blink LED indicators on keyboard

1998-05-01 Thread Plutonically Incorrect
There is a program called TLedz (or Tleds) that would monitor any TCP
stack (eth0, ppp0, etc) and have the lights blink to the console even if
you were logged off.  You could it up so that it would blink and stay lit
at a given mS, each blink would correspond to a tcp packet coming in... 


I dont know if this helps, but if you're interested i can get it off my
linux box before i do a reinstall of it.. but let me know before friday.

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

 
 Anyone know how I could have a cool LED animation when new mail arrives
 (when I'm logged in or not)?  Something like a bouncing effect for the
 first couple seconds and then have the scroll lock blink once every five
 minutes or so...
 
 I have a program called 'bl' that does make the keyboard lights blink, but
 it only works if I'm logged on and I'm using the same tty as where it was
 executed -- ie, sleep 3; bl -c console doesn't work when I switch to
 another VC before sleep expires.. I don't know how it would work in X...
 
 Anyone else tried this?
 
 -Paul
 
 
 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: copying partitions/moving root partition

1998-05-01 Thread Plutonically Incorrect
Ghost would be right up your alley
Ghost copies a hard drive (no matter what OS) by cylinders. and it doesnt
matter if it's cloning from a smaller HD to a bigger HD.



On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

 
 I just got a new hard drive, and I'm wondering what I need to do to move
 the root and other Linux partitions to the new drive?  Most importantly,
 LILO!  Currently I boot off /dev/hda3 and I'm wanting to replace that hard
 drive with a new one... which can temporarily replace the cdrom drive while
 I move files around. 
 
 ---
 Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Public PGP key at http://paul.3dillusion.com/pgpkey.txt
 
 
 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: biff/new mail - blink LED indicators on keyboard

1998-05-01 Thread Paul Miller

... I don't see how that would work as a new mail/biff type program...
are you saying that i should run that program when I have new mail?

-Paul

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Plutonically Incorrect wrote:

 There is a program called TLedz (or Tleds) that would monitor any TCP
 stack (eth0, ppp0, etc) and have the lights blink to the console even if
 you were logged off.  You could it up so that it would blink and stay lit
 at a given mS, each blink would correspond to a tcp packet coming in... 
 
 
 I dont know if this helps, but if you're interested i can get it off my
 linux box before i do a reinstall of it.. but let me know before friday.
 
 On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
 
  
  Anyone know how I could have a cool LED animation when new mail arrives
  (when I'm logged in or not)?  Something like a bouncing effect for the
  first couple seconds and then have the scroll lock blink once every five
  minutes or so...
  
  I have a program called 'bl' that does make the keyboard lights blink, but
  it only works if I'm logged on and I'm using the same tty as where it was
  executed -- ie, sleep 3; bl -c console doesn't work when I switch to
  another VC before sleep expires.. I don't know how it would work in X...
  
  Anyone else tried this?
  
  -Paul
  
  
  --
  To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 
 
 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: copying partitions/moving root partition

1998-05-01 Thread Paul Miller

hmm... I didn't see it in dselect.. is it a Linux program?

I think I'll want to enlarge some of my partitons too.. I think the main
thing is writing LILO to the new drive so that it'll boot as /dev/hdaX,
allowing me to move it from /dev/hdd to /dev/hda...

-Paul

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Plutonically Incorrect wrote:

 Ghost would be right up your alley
 Ghost copies a hard drive (no matter what OS) by cylinders. and it doesnt
 matter if it's cloning from a smaller HD to a bigger HD.
 
 
 
 On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
 
  
  I just got a new hard drive, and I'm wondering what I need to do to move
  the root and other Linux partitions to the new drive?  Most importantly,
  LILO!  Currently I boot off /dev/hda3 and I'm wanting to replace that hard
  drive with a new one... which can temporarily replace the cdrom drive while
  I move files around. 
  
  ---
  Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Public PGP key at http://paul.3dillusion.com/pgpkey.txt
  
  
  --
  To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 
 
 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: biff/new mail - blink LED indicators on keyboard

1998-05-01 Thread Plutonically Incorrect
No, I'm saying it might help you, maybe you can modify it to check your
mail every couple o fminutes and have it blink... who knows.


On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

 
 ... I don't see how that would work as a new mail/biff type program...
 are you saying that i should run that program when I have new mail?
 
 -Paul
 
 On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Plutonically Incorrect wrote:
 
  There is a program called TLedz (or Tleds) that would monitor any TCP
  stack (eth0, ppp0, etc) and have the lights blink to the console even if
  you were logged off.  You could it up so that it would blink and stay lit
  at a given mS, each blink would correspond to a tcp packet coming in... 
  
  
  I dont know if this helps, but if you're interested i can get it off my
  linux box before i do a reinstall of it.. but let me know before friday.
  
  On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
  
   
   Anyone know how I could have a cool LED animation when new mail arrives
   (when I'm logged in or not)?  Something like a bouncing effect for the
   first couple seconds and then have the scroll lock blink once every five
   minutes or so...
   
   I have a program called 'bl' that does make the keyboard lights blink, but
   it only works if I'm logged on and I'm using the same tty as where it was
   executed -- ie, sleep 3; bl -c console doesn't work when I switch to
   another VC before sleep expires.. I don't know how it would work in X...
   
   Anyone else tried this?
   
   -Paul
   
   
   --
   To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
  
  
  --
  To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 
 


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Installing Debian hangs on Loading root.bin.... (4 dots) from the resc1440 disk

1998-05-01 Thread Milan Zimmermann
Installing Debian hangs on Loading root.bin (4 dots) from the
resc1440 disk. This is hapenning  on AST Ascentia 900N (486/75/20Mb)
laptop. I tried several diskettes, they are formatted in the same
physical drive (under DOS, I used rawrite2 to copy the images to
diskettes).

What is weird that the hanging does not occur on my other (Pentium) PC.

Is there anything I can do to bypass this?


Thanks, Milan


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Off Topic, Linus Torvalds.

1998-05-01 Thread Michael Beattie
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 11:29:43PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote:
  I have recently read a magazine about linux, and it mentioned the world's
  first knowing of linux; A 1991 post to comp.os.minix from Linus
  Torvalds.
 
 A number of early Linux posts from Linus are available as part of the Linus
 vs Andy Tanenbaum flamewar, which is archived on many places, e.g.
 http://www.kde.org/food/linux_is_obsolete.html
 

Thanks.. :)


   Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

---
  The man who invented the eraser pretty well sized up the human race.
---
Debian GNU/Linux  Ooohh You are missing out!


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: biff/new mail - blink LED indicators on keyboard

1998-05-01 Thread Paul Miller

I just tried it and tleds works the same as bl... it only works with the
tty is was executed on... 

-Paul

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Plutonically Incorrect wrote:

 No, I'm saying it might help you, maybe you can modify it to check your
 mail every couple o fminutes and have it blink... who knows.
 
 
 On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
 
  
  ... I don't see how that would work as a new mail/biff type program...
  are you saying that i should run that program when I have new mail?
  
  -Paul
  
  On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Plutonically Incorrect wrote:
  
   There is a program called TLedz (or Tleds) that would monitor any TCP
   stack (eth0, ppp0, etc) and have the lights blink to the console even if
   you were logged off.  You could it up so that it would blink and stay lit
   at a given mS, each blink would correspond to a tcp packet coming in... 
   
   
   I dont know if this helps, but if you're interested i can get it off my
   linux box before i do a reinstall of it.. but let me know before friday.
   
   On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
   

Anyone know how I could have a cool LED animation when new mail arrives
(when I'm logged in or not)?  Something like a bouncing effect for the
first couple seconds and then have the scroll lock blink once every five
minutes or so...

I have a program called 'bl' that does make the keyboard lights blink, 
but
it only works if I'm logged on and I'm using the same tty as where it 
was
executed -- ie, sleep 3; bl -c console doesn't work when I switch to
another VC before sleep expires.. I don't know how it would work in X...

Anyone else tried this?

-Paul


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


   
   
   --
   To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
  
  
 
 


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


How to organize NFS server?

1998-05-01 Thread Chris R. Martin
I have an old 486 with a few hard drives in it that I want to use as a
server. I'd like to store debian-packaged apps such as gcc, x11, xemacs etc
on the server, yet keep some functionality on my local drive so I don't
need the server all the time.

what is the best way to do this under debian? I thought of
exporting/mounting /usr on the server, but will that cause major problems?
What if I have a local /usr directory? Will I still be able to access it
when not using the server?

Also, what does the group think about using a /apps directory instead of
/usr ? I know it's not filesystem standard, but it seems this might get
around a lot of problems of mounting /usr remotely. 

btw I have about 500MB of local space and up to 4GB on the server. 

Thanks for any advice you can give me!

Chris

please cc: me via email. Thanks.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: copying partitions/moving root partition

1998-05-01 Thread Plutonically Incorrect
No, it's a DOS program, just opop it on disk w/ DOS on it, clone from disk
to disk. 


On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

 
 hmm... I didn't see it in dselect.. is it a Linux program?
 
 I think I'll want to enlarge some of my partitons too.. I think the main
 thing is writing LILO to the new drive so that it'll boot as /dev/hdaX,
 allowing me to move it from /dev/hdd to /dev/hda...
 
 -Paul
 
 On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Plutonically Incorrect wrote:
 
  Ghost would be right up your alley
  Ghost copies a hard drive (no matter what OS) by cylinders. and it doesnt
  matter if it's cloning from a smaller HD to a bigger HD.
  
  
  
  On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
  
   
   I just got a new hard drive, and I'm wondering what I need to do to move
   the root and other Linux partitions to the new drive?  Most importantly,
   LILO!  Currently I boot off /dev/hda3 and I'm wanting to replace that hard
   drive with a new one... which can temporarily replace the cdrom drive 
   while
   I move files around. 
   
   ---
   Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Public PGP key at http://paul.3dillusion.com/pgpkey.txt
   
   
   --
   To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
  
  
  --
  To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 
 


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Adaptec 2840 VLB Fails from bootdisk

1998-05-01 Thread Daniel

I have a 486dx4/100 system that has both PCI and VLB on the same board.
I have Caldera currently running on the machine.  The SCSI controller on
it is a Adaptec 2840 VLB (Rev E, btw)

Basically.. it hangs.. and gives errors something like scsi0 spurrious
intterupt etc I'm using a boot disk that came with my CD from 1.3.1
rev 6.


--
Daniel


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


cron problems

1998-05-01 Thread John Boggon
Has anyone else had problems with cron since version cron_3.0pl1-45.deb was
installed into hamm ?

The following error messages from crom were in my mailbox this morning.

Subject :Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] root run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily

Message body : /bin/sh: root: command not found

I got the same reports for cron.monthly and cron.weekly

Looks like it's spitting the dummy on the root part, not recognising it's
the user to run under, not part of the command.

Only change I made was to update cron and add some scripts to /etc/cron.d.

John



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: biff/new mail - blink LED indicators on keyboard

1998-05-01 Thread John Boggon

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Lakofski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Friday, 1 May 1998 03:13:pm
Subject: Re: biff/new mail - blink LED indicators on keyboard


You might want to try this instead:

http://lcdproc.omnipotent.net/

it's a little lcd display going for about $70 which will show you all
kinds of system information, including whether you have mail, etc.

-thomas


Lucky you, I just priced the module in Australia and the local distributor
 The only distributor) is asking $255 plus 20 % sales tax..
Helluva hike even taking in exchange rates and freight costs.

John


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: fast hard drives for which partitions

1998-05-01 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Beattie wrote:
  swap
  /
  /boot
  /etc
  /var
  /tmp
 
 I'm not sure, but I believe the above must be on the same drive...
 /boot and /etc do...

/boot does not (I've had /boot be a symlink to a dos partition (don't
ask ;-)).

swap doesn't, of course.

/var doesn't: 
/dev/hda2 193M   32M   151M 18%   /
/dev/hdc1 968M  842M   116M 88%   /usr
/dev/hdc3 1.7G  1.6G95M 95%   /var

/etc does, unless you want to play nasty tricks with overwriting a skeletal
/var with a mount. /tmp I'm not sure of.

Personally, if I anticipate needing a lot of swap, my swap partition is at
the top of the list. If not, it can go on a slower drive. Next is /home,
then /tmp, then /var, then then the root fs and finally /usr. But it
all depends on how you use your system, really... I do a *lot* in my /home
diriectory, ie, lots of compiling, etc, which is why I prioritize it so
high.

-- 
see shy jo


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Maxwell Wordprocessor - Fonts

1998-05-01 Thread Dale Sesvold
I am trying to get Maxwell to work but do not have fonts installed
correctly.

I've got 75dpi installed in the default location for Debian 1.3 - Not
what Maxwell wants.

Maxwell is looking for Type1 fonts and its setup provides symbolic
links to them in .../fonts/Type1.

Where do I get the Type1 fonts expected in Maxwell?

DG Ses


_
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Lilo woes

1998-05-01 Thread King Lee


On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Tristan Day wrote:
[snip]
 
 So my questions are as follows:
 
 1. Where can I find a good tutorial for vi?
I liked the papers by the authors of vi and ex
available at

ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/BSD/manuals/

with names usd.15.vi.ps.Z and usd.16.ex.ps.Z.  Most intro
books on Unix have intro chapter. 

 2. Can anyone suggest how I could restore NT as the default boot?

did you try 

fdisk /MBR

to restore original MBR. I don't know anything about NT, but
this may fix up MBR

King Lee





--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


My first steps (and problems) with Hamm

1998-05-01 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
Hi,

I was looking for more than a month to see the hamm in the stable. But
this didn't happened so I 've taken a deep breath, downloaded the hole
hamm from a local mirror and burned 2 CD with hamm, contrib, non-US and
non-free. I've decided to make a clean install, especially because I
have separate partitions for /home and for /usr/local.

And the problems started:

1.  Dselect comes with dpkg-perl as a default. But this cannot be
installed unless you already have perl.  On a new system you don't have
this.  I have had to remove and purge this for going further.

2. The system also comes with pcmcia as a default. I have had to purge
this also. Are laptops becomeing so spreaded that this was introduced as
a sugested package in a clean instalation ?

3. After installing what remained (the method suggested in The Debian
Linux User's Guide, by Dale Scheetz), i wanted to install the X.
Actually I've installed it, but with a small problem with my mouse. In
bo I used to set my mouse as MouseSystems with ClearDTR. This way I
have been able to use the middle button. But the XF86Setup didn't let me
do so. Is this a bug in XF86Setup ? I was forced to use Microsoft with
emulate3buttons.  And now the surprise: just now I've discovered that
/usr/X11R6/bin/xmseconfig lets my set the mouse correctly.

4. Having installed the xbase and the servers, I've installed the window
managers. I was anxious to see the new fvwm95, especially because the
authors say they fixed the problem with maximizing of the windows (that
is not to maximize over the bottom bar). But the problem is solved only
if you are useing the original .fvwm95rc, not the one suplied by hamm. I
wonder why ?

5. Now my system was running and had almost everything I wanted.  Except
the TeX packages. And this because they depend on dpkg-perl. I have try
to install the package from dselect with no succes. Is this because I am
keeping the hamm archive on a vfat partition ? I doubt this very much.
Anyhow, yesterday, by chance, I've discovered that, when you are using
MC, the .deb files are like directories and you can walk through them
like you are walking through the .tar.gz files or a regular directory.
And in the dpkg-perl .deb file was an INSTALL file which installed the
package. Whithout any problem. Very strange... After this, the package
appeared in dselect as installed and I was able to istall everything
from tetex.

6. In the end I wanted to install the pine but it was nowhere in the
hamm, non-free, contrib or non-US. I used the pine package from bo, but
I wonder why pine is no more supllied (while the pine docs are) ?

7. And one more thing: the installing script doesn't let me mount by any
extended partitions. It wants only primary partitions. Not very nice.
Also, now I have  lilo installed on the HDD and I cannot remove it. I've
try fdisk /mbr from dos, but with no succes. Does anybody have a
suggestion ? And the instalation script from hamm and bo doesn't let you
make a lilo.conf for more OS'es. I wonder why, as RedHat and Slackware
let you make lilo.confs for more OS'es ? Is this by purpose or is a
small flaw ? This is not nice, especially for those who are not decided
yet to stay 100% of their time with Linux. The use of force (in this
case the absence of the option) tend to scare new users (this is my
opinion). And Linux is not easy t learn, so why to make it even harder
when it's not necesary ?

TIA

Ionutz


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..

1998-05-01 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

Nathan E Norman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I've got a Sun Netra I5, with serial console only.  The current Debian
 boot disks don't like the serial console, so I used RedHat's instead.
 Now I've got this Netra Linux box :)

AFAIK there is enhanced serial console support in 2.1.*. But don't forget,
2.1 is unstable!


I have no experience with Suns at all, but Maybe you can try this:

make a standard debian bootdisk

use your RedHat system to compile a 2.1 kernel with console support

and either

replace the bootdisk's kernel with this one

make the disks bootloader pass the necessary parameters for the
serial console

or 

install the kernel on your system

copy the disks root image to your system

make your bootloader (SILO?) load this image as initrd as the
bootdisks do and pass the parameters for the serial console


This is only an idea - maybe this works...

Regards
 Rainer

-- 
KeyID=58341901 fingerprint=A5 57 04 B3 69 88 A1 FB  78 1D B5 64 E0 BF 72 EB


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: more SCSI Woes

1998-05-01 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

I'm not sure if this will help, but have you tried tweaking some of the
SCSI low level driver settings when you configure your kernel?  Also, is
your kernel configured to support tape drives?

-Ossama

__
Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--- PGP Keys ---
Public:  http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_PUBLIC.asc
REVOKED: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_REVOKED.asc



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: perl: problem with s/// and variable interpolation

1998-05-01 Thread Joost Kooij
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Yann Dirson wrote:

 I wrote a sample script whose behaviour seems strange to me.  At least
 I can't find in the doc why it behaves so, nor what I should write to
 get the expected result.
 
  The sample script
 #!/usr/bin/perl
 
 $TRANSLATION = '\1;$2';
 $str = ab;
 $str =~ s{(.)(.)}{$TRANSLATION};

[snip]

Have you tried wrapping the substitution statement with an eval 
construct yet? I think that should make it work.

Cheers,


Joost



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Lilo woes

1998-05-01 Thread Ossama Othman
  2. Can anyone suggest how I could restore NT as the default boot?

If fdisk /mbr doesn't work try to RTFM!  :)  Just kidding.  Actually, LILO
stores the original MBR in /boot.  Read the LILO docs in /usr/doc/lilo to
get detailed instructions on which file to dd and what dd flags are
needed.

-Ossama


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Swap

1998-05-01 Thread Matej Grasic
Hi!
I am going to configurate a linux machine. But I don't know if it is good to 
use a old 120 MB drive for swap. I would like to know if it is good to use that 
drive for swap and a new WD for /. The new drive is around 4GB so I could use 
the new drive for swap too and the old one for garbage. I do not know which 
configuration is better. I would be very gled for any advice. Thanks in 
advance. 
   Matej Grasic


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Swap

1998-05-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
   I am going to configurate a linux machine. But I don't know if it is =
   good to use a old 120 MB drive for swap. I would like to know if it is =
   good to use that drive for swap and a new WD for /. The new drive is =
   around 4GB so I could use the new drive for swap too and the old one for =
   garbage. I do not know which configuration is better. I would be very =
   gled for any advice. Thanks in advance.=20

The newer drive is probably much faster than the old one.  I would
recommend putting both swap and / on the new drive because of this.

HTH, Ben.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: My first steps (and problems) with Hamm

1998-05-01 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

 Also, now I have  lilo installed on the HDD and I cannot remove it. I've
 try fdisk /mbr from dos, but with no succes. Does anybody have a
 suggestion ?

Like I said to someone else, RTFM! :)  LILO stores a copy of the original
MBR in /boot.  Read the manual in /usr/doc/lilo for details on which file
to restore using dd and how.

 opinion). And Linux is not easy t learn, so why to make it even harder
 when it's not necesary ?

Sure it is, just read the manuals.  I agree that Debian may not be as
easy to use for newbies as some of the other distributions such as RedHat
and Slackware, however I truly believe that Debian is a technically
superior distribution which in the long run may out weigh the initial
learning difficulties, IMHO.

-Ossama


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: more SCSI Woes

1998-05-01 Thread Stephen Carpenter
Ossama Othman wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm not sure if this will help, but have you tried tweaking some of the
 SCSI low level driver settings when you configure your kernel?

no I havn't...I supose I should take a look at the source code for the 
kernelSCSI
drivers

 Also, is
 your kernel configured to support tape drives?

yes it is...but shouldn't at least some SCSI device be detected even if it
doesn'tsuport tape drives?..and that interrupt being lost is what get 
sme,...that
shouldn't happn
-Steve
--
I am back to nothing worthwhile of a SIG again
if you want my pgp key though check out:
http://www.gis.net/~sjc/pgp.asc
(BTW Thanx allot Noah for pointing out why putting my pgp key here was
a bad idea...now I hafta find a new funny quote or something for here)



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Swap

1998-05-01 Thread Stephen Carpenter
actually thats good...use the new drive exclusively but...
don't use th eold drive for garbage
old hard drives are great...good for lofting monitors once you get a few of them
-Steve

Ben Pfaff wrote:

I am going to configurate a linux machine. But I don't know if it is =
good to use a old 120 MB drive for swap. I would like to know if it is =
good to use that drive for swap and a new WD for /. The new drive is =
around 4GB so I could use the new drive for swap too and the old one for =
garbage. I do not know which configuration is better. I would be very =
gled for any advice. Thanks in advance.=20

 The newer drive is probably much faster than the old one.  I would
 recommend putting both swap and / on the new drive because of this.

 HTH, Ben.

 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



--
I am back to nothing worthwhile of a SIG again
if you want my pgp key though check out:
http://www.gis.net/~sjc/pgp.asc
(BTW Thanx allot Noah for pointing out why putting my pgp key here was
a bad idea...now I hafta find a new funny quote or something for here)



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: more SCSI Woes

1998-05-01 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

  I'm not sure if this will help, but have you tried tweaking some of the
  SCSI low level driver settings when you configure your kernel?
 
 no I havn't...I supose I should take a look at the source code for the 
 kernelSCSI
 drivers

I meant the SCSI low level driver settings when you do a make
config/menuconfig/xconfig in /usr/src/linux.  There are some delay
or timeout settings. from what I recall, that you tweak.  The kernel
config help for each of low level SCSI tells what each one does.  You
shouldn't have to mess around with the SCSI source, but go for it if you
are up to it.  You are braver then me; I never mess with the kernel source 
:).

  Also, is
  your kernel configured to support tape drives?
 
 yes it is...but shouldn't at least some SCSI device be detected even if it
 doesn'tsuport tape drives?..and that interrupt being lost is what get 
 sme,...that
 shouldn't happn

Good point, I agree.

-Ossama


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: more SCSI Woes

1998-05-01 Thread Stephen Carpenter
No I am not braver than you
I didn't see any such configs when i did it (kernel 2.0.29...but they shoul dbe 
there
if you see them I guess)
anyway I will look again when I can but...
I didn't see anything
-Steve

Ossama Othman wrote:

 Hi,

   I'm not sure if this will help, but have you tried tweaking some of the
   SCSI low level driver settings when you configure your kernel?
 
  no I havn't...I supose I should take a look at the source code for the 
  kernelSCSI
  drivers

 I meant the SCSI low level driver settings when you do a make
 config/menuconfig/xconfig in /usr/src/linux.  There are some delay
 or timeout settings. from what I recall, that you tweak.  The kernel
 config help for each of low level SCSI tells what each one does.  You
 shouldn't have to mess around with the SCSI source, but go for it if you
 are up to it.  You are braver then me; I never mess with the kernel source
 :).

   Also, is
   your kernel configured to support tape drives?
 
  yes it is...but shouldn't at least some SCSI device be detected even if it
  doesn'tsuport tape drives?..and that interrupt being lost is what get 
  sme,...that
  shouldn't happn

 Good point, I agree.

 -Ossama

 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



--
I am back to nothing worthwhile of a SIG again
if you want my pgp key though check out:
http://www.gis.net/~sjc/pgp.asc
(BTW Thanx allot Noah for pointing out why putting my pgp key here was
a bad idea...now I hafta find a new funny quote or something for here)



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Love, Life and Lilo

1998-05-01 Thread Rick
HI all,
Yes i know this is going to seem a really dumb question, but here goes
anyhow...

I am using the Boot manager that comes with partition magic 3 (IBM thingy),
and in order to boot linux it requires that Lilo is installed on the
partition to boot. Quickly and easily, how do i install Lilo on /dev/hda6
(thats the partition i want to boot) with only one boot option (linux on
/dev/hda6).

sorry about that but i've only been at this 24hrs...

Rick


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: more SCSI Woes

1998-05-01 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi Steve,

 No I am not braver than you
 I didn't see any such configs when i did it (kernel 2.0.29...but they shoul 
 dbe there
 if you see them I guess)
 anyway I will look again when I can but...
 I didn't see anything

Sorry, I gave you bad advice.  :(  I have an Adaptec 2940UW which uses the
AIC7xxx driver which does have additional kernel config options.  You were
right, it seems that you will have to modify your SCSI card header file as
suggested by the kernel config help.  Again, sorry for the confusion.

-Ossama



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Love, Life and Lilo

1998-05-01 Thread Ossama Othman
 
 I am using the Boot manager that comes with partition magic 3 (IBM thingy),
 and in order to boot linux it requires that Lilo is installed on the
 partition to boot. Quickly and easily, how do i install Lilo on /dev/hda6
 (thats the partition i want to boot) with only one boot option (linux on
 /dev/hda6).

Use liloconfig.  It will install a partition boot record on whatever
partition is appropriate and continues on to ask you whether or not you
want to install a master boot record.  Since you will be using another
boot manager (the IBM thingy :)) just answer no when liloconfig asks you
about the MBR.  Liloconfig explains each question it asks so you shouldn't
have any problem.
 
 sorry about that but i've only been at this 24hrs...

This list is here to help.  No need to apologize.  I have lots of
questions that I consider stupid, too.  :)

-Ossama


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Free/OpenSource software?

1998-05-01 Thread Lee Bradshaw
On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 11:32:59AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 06:50:14PM -0400, Thomas Lakofski wrote:
  If you suspected this, there are ways in which it can be shown that your
  code has been stolen, as was done when Microsoft stole Stacker technology
  and called it Doublespace in DOS 6.2.  The risk of being caught is usually
  enough deterrent, as if you were caught, the license terms of GPL'd
  software would require the release of sources for all derivative works.
 
 But weren't Microsoft found to have breached Stac's patent, rather than
 stolen actual code? I think actual code would be harder to prove
 than infringement of a patent.

There was an article in _EE Times_ about the Cadence vs. Avant lawsuit.
They were using similarities in the source code to try to prove code had
been copied.  I think the variable names were all different, but they
were looking for similar patterns of stange indenting and punctuation.
I think the guy doing the code analysis does it full time.  Of course,
you would probably need to get a court order to get access to the
disputed source code for comparison.

-- 
Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred)
Alantro Communications   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Love, Life and Lilo

1998-05-01 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Make an /etc/lilo.conf with

boot=/dev/hda6
root=/dev/hda6
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=0
image=/vmlinuz
  label=Linux
  read-only

Rick wrote:

 HI all,
 Yes i know this is going to seem a really dumb question, but here goes
 anyhow...

 I am using the Boot manager that comes with partition magic 3 (IBM thingy),
 and in order to boot linux it requires that Lilo is installed on the
 partition to boot. Quickly and easily, how do i install Lilo on /dev/hda6
 (thats the partition i want to boot) with only one boot option (linux on
 /dev/hda6).

 sorry about that but i've only been at this 24hrs...

 Rick

 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



--
Jens B. Jorgensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Network Problem

1998-05-01 Thread Michael Acklin
Hello,

Well I got the basic hamm from disks working fine last night. But when i
started to download the rest of the packages from ftp.debian.org, I got a
Connection Refused message or something similar.

I really believe this is being caused by a reverse lookup or lookup from
ftp.debian.org. I can log onto other ftp sites, ie sunsite, without any
problems. But would rather download the packages via Debian. 

A little background, may help with my question. I am running on a PPP
connection and connect up to my local ISP. I have been assigned a static
IP. The address goes something like aux-xxx-xx-xxx.myisp.net. I have
since changed that address via the magic of Monolith to something.ml.org,
which has propagated for over a month now. I have placed in the hostnames
the ml.org address. 

The other day, I had lost my static IP from my ISP and was being 
assigned
a Dynamic IP address. And I could log onto ftp.debian.org with no problem
at all. 

My question is, has anyone else seen this happen before? And if so, how 
do
I fix it so I can log onto ftp.debian.org? If not, what am I doing that is
different from a Static IP to a Dynamic IP to have debian.org let me on?
And what do I need to do with my network files to get this to work? 

When I was running bo, I had the same problem, but I just got the files
off sunsite so was not a big deal, but now with hamm, sunsite doesn't have
the Package files up to date and I was wanting to get my system back up.

Thanks for any help.

Mike


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Network Problem

1998-05-01 Thread dpk
This is due to tcp wrappers on the ftp server of ftp.debian.org.  In
the /etc/hosts.deny they probably had the line 'ALL: PARANOID'.

This will disconnect hosts with name/address discrepencies.  For
instance, you connect as 'myhost.ml.org'.  ftp.debian.org looks up the
address for 'myhost.ml.org' and finds that IP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd is
assigned to 'myhost.myisp.net'.  Since 'myhost.ml.org' !=
'myhost.myisp.net' you get disconnected.   
 
Thanks,
Dennis
--
dpk [EMAIL PROTECTED], Network Administrator   |  work: 353.4844
Division of Engineering Computing Services |  page: 222.5875

On Fri, 1 May 1998, Michael Acklin wrote:

 Hello,
 
   Well I got the basic hamm from disks working fine last night. But when i
 started to download the rest of the packages from ftp.debian.org, I got a
 Connection Refused message or something similar.
 
   I really believe this is being caused by a reverse lookup or lookup from
 ftp.debian.org. I can log onto other ftp sites, ie sunsite, without any
 problems. But would rather download the packages via Debian. 
 
   A little background, may help with my question. I am running on a PPP
 connection and connect up to my local ISP. I have been assigned a static
 IP. The address goes something like aux-xxx-xx-xxx.myisp.net. I have
 since changed that address via the magic of Monolith to something.ml.org,
 which has propagated for over a month now. I have placed in the hostnames
 the ml.org address. 
 
   The other day, I had lost my static IP from my ISP and was being 
 assigned
 a Dynamic IP address. And I could log onto ftp.debian.org with no problem
 at all. 
 
   My question is, has anyone else seen this happen before? And if so, how 
 do
 I fix it so I can log onto ftp.debian.org? If not, what am I doing that is
 different from a Static IP to a Dynamic IP to have debian.org let me on?
 And what do I need to do with my network files to get this to work? 
 
   When I was running bo, I had the same problem, but I just got the files
 off sunsite so was not a big deal, but now with hamm, sunsite doesn't have
 the Package files up to date and I was wanting to get my system back up.
 
   Thanks for any help.
 
 Mike


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Network Problem

1998-05-01 Thread Michael Acklin
Thanks for your info,

I thought it might be something like that.

Is there anything I can do to fix this? Is there some file I need to
change to transmit the correct lookup. 

Again thanks for your help

Mike

At 11:32 AM 5/1/98 -0400, you wrote:
This is due to tcp wrappers on the ftp server of ftp.debian.org.  In
the /etc/hosts.deny they probably had the line 'ALL: PARANOID'.

This will disconnect hosts with name/address discrepencies.  For
instance, you connect as 'myhost.ml.org'.  ftp.debian.org looks up the
address for 'myhost.ml.org' and finds that IP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd is
assigned to 'myhost.myisp.net'.  Since 'myhost.ml.org' !=
'myhost.myisp.net' you get disconnected.   
 
Thanks,
Dennis
--
dpk [EMAIL PROTECTED], Network Administrator   |  work: 353.4844
Division of Engineering Computing Services |  page: 222.5875



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: xdm and shutdown

1998-05-01 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Jorge Daniel Ruckj [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all.
 
 How I do a shutdown if I use xdm?
 
 Thanks

Are you aware that even while using xdm one can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to
get to a text console?  I find a surprising number of linux users
unaware of this fact.

From the text console, you can do a shutdown as normal.

A while ago (within the last two weeks, I think) someone posted some
nice tcl/tk code that one could add to some of xdm's startup scripts
to get a little shutdown button to appear on the xdm startup
screen.  I'll see if I can go dig it up...


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


BSDlpd to LPrng - no space on remote

1998-05-01 Thread Benjamin Cant
Hi,

When printing from BSDlpd on SG6.4 to lprng 3.2.1-1 on debian 1.3.1 
the queue on the SG box reports that the queue on debian:

no space on remote; wating for queue to drain

and the queue on debian reports all OK and job recevied. the BSDlpd 
queue then goes off line a jobs start mounting up.

Any ideas?

Cheers, Ben.

Benjamin Cant

Aegis Integrated Solutions
6 Sun Street, Hitchin, Hertfordshire,
ENGLAND, SG5 1AE
Tel: 01462 438938
Fax: 01462 451755

E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: xdm and shutdown

1998-05-01 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Daniel Martin at cush wrote:

 Jorge Daniel Ruckj [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi all.
 
  How I do a shutdown if I use xdm?
 
  Thanks

 Are you aware that even while using xdm one can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to
 get to a text console?  I find a surprising number of linux users
 unaware of this fact.

A lot of people are also unaware that typing 'Ctrl-r' from the xdm login screen
exits xdm. Note that xdm is not killed. This mapping is actually set up by the
resources for the server in /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources, resource
xlogin*login.translations. At least on my system I have:

xlogin*login.translations: #override\
CtrlKeyR: abort-display()\n\
KeyF1: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\
CtrlKeyReturn: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\
KeyReturn: set-session-argument() finish-field()

 From the text console, you can do a shutdown as normal.

 A while ago (within the last two weeks, I think) someone posted some
 nice tcl/tk code that one could add to some of xdm's startup scripts
 to get a little shutdown button to appear on the xdm startup
 screen.  I'll see if I can go dig it up...

--
Jens B. Jorgensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


How to speed up the EMACS at start-up ?

1998-05-01 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
Hi,

I ermember that I've read somewhere that, if you compile the .el files,
EMACS will start more rapidly. But I don't remember where I've read
that. :-(

Can somebody tell me how to compile the .el files EMACS load at start-up
? Do I have to compile each of them by hand ?

TIA,

Ionutz


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Debian Linux and W95 coexist?

1998-05-01 Thread Graham Pople
Just received Debian Linux on the LSL CD which will be used on a shared
Pentium which already has Windows 95 installed. The installation
instructions look straight forward with one exception. It is not clear
whether the installation routine is designed to overwrite what is
already on the hard disk or if only the unused part of the disk will be
used. Could someone please point me to a discussion of this and/or more
basic information about disk partitioning? This must be an elementary
question but is not apparent in the FAQs.

Basically, you need to download a DOS program called FIPS (just search
for it on the internet). Now, defragment your hard drive in Win95, then
immediately exit to DOS and run FIPS. You can now decrease the size of
your Win95 partition, leaving you room to slot in another partition for
Linux in the setup program. If you just change your Win95 partition into
a Linux partition, all the info on that partition will be deleted,
including Win95. You just have to have two partitions (well, three,
since you need anotehr one for your Linux swap file).

Graham Pople ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SNES emulators at Emulation One (http://www.jalna.demon.co.uk/index.htm)
All emulators at E1 Newsletter (http://www.jalna.demon.co.uk/e1news.htm)


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Problems with time settings and tzconfig

1998-05-01 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
Hi,

I have had the same proble with the time, both with bo and with hamm.
I am from Romania which is GMT+2. I had set the PC CMOS time to GMT and
try the Europe/Bucharest zone. It gave me an GMT+3 hour. I've try GMT+2
and the system returned me a GMT-2 hour. Now the system is set to GMT-1
and the zone to Europe/Bucharest, so, in the end, I get an right answer
from date and the clock shows what it should. Does anybody have a clue
for this ?

(I am not very happy with this work arround and also I'm a little
disappointed that those that made the zone database didn't knew we are
GMT+2 in Romania. It's in every geography book. )

And, if we are on this subject, does Linux knows about summer/winter
hour ? Win95 knows about this and I was wondering if this is also true
for Linux.

TIA

Ionutz


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Serial port troubles

1998-05-01 Thread dmilne
Hi,
Hopefully someone has this off the top of their head. I'm trying to get a
modem going from ttyS0.

As soon as I power up the CPU, the send data and receive data light on the
modem go on.  I'm unable to do anything with the modem.  If I run
statserial /dev/ttyS0, the line clears and the modem shows the appropriate
lights.  As soon as I exit from statserial, the send data and receive data
light come on again. I've tried the modem on another machine and it works
well.

I've tried reversing the serial board connection to the motherboard without
effect.  I've looked in the inittab and it doesn't appear that I'm running
a getty on ttyS0.

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Debian Linux and W95 coexist?

1998-05-01 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, 1 May 1998, Graham Pople wrote:

 Just received Debian Linux on the LSL CD which will be used on a shared
 Pentium which already has Windows 95 installed. The installation
 instructions look straight forward with one exception. It is not clear
 whether the installation routine is designed to overwrite what is
 already on the hard disk or if only the unused part of the disk will be
 used. Could someone please point me to a discussion of this and/or more
 basic information about disk partitioning? This must be an elementary
 question but is not apparent in the FAQs.
 
 Basically, you need to download a DOS program called FIPS (just search
 for it on the internet). Now, defragment your hard drive in Win95, then
 immediately exit to DOS and run FIPS. You can now decrease the size of
 your Win95 partition, leaving you room to slot in another partition for
 Linux in the setup program. If you just change your Win95 partition into
 a Linux partition, all the info on that partition will be deleted,
 including Win95. You just have to have two partitions (well, three,
 since you need anotehr one for your Linux swap file).

Actually fips is on the cdrom in /tools.  If the Win95 system is OSR2
(4.00B) with FAT32, you will need to get fips15c, which is available from
ftp.debian.org in /pub/debian/tools. 

Another choice would be the commercial Partition Magic 3.x, which also
handles FAT32 and includes a good boot manager for dual booting
linux/win95, although this can also be done with LILO, which is on the
debian cd-rom. 

Bob


Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: How to speed up the EMACS at start-up ?

1998-05-01 Thread Stephen A. Witt
On Fri, 1 May 1998, Ionut Borcoman at debian wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I ermember that I've read somewhere that, if you compile the .el files,
 EMACS will start more rapidly. But I don't remember where I've read
 that. :-(
 
 Can somebody tell me how to compile the .el files EMACS load at start-up
 ? Do I have to compile each of them by hand ?
 

$ emacs -batch -q -no-site-file -f batch-byte-compile source-file(s)

will compile .el files into .elc files and speed up emacs.  If you are
using the Debian emacs package, all of these files should already be
compiled.  Most distributions of emacs functions (implemented in .el
files) provide instructions on installation that includes how to compile
or a Makefile that does this for you.




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


ppgplot and G77_getenv_0?

1998-05-01 Thread Mike Miller
I'm trying to build the python ppgplot module (two p's) on a
Debian 2.0 (frozen) system.  I've been able to compile it, but
when I try to use the module, I get the following error:

  Traceback (innermost last):
File examples/tstsimple.py, line 3, in ?
  from ppgplot import *
  ImportError: /home/miller/lib/python/ppgplot.so: undefined
symbol: G77_getenv_0 

Has anyone managed to get ppgplot running on a 2.0 system?
Anyone have ideas on where G77_getenv_0 is?

Regards, Mike

-- 
Michael A. Miller[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
  PGP public key available on request


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


mounting /usr as read only.

1998-05-01 Thread Liran Zvibel
Hello!

What do you have to say about $SUBJECT?
I think that in that way the /usr partition cant get currupted.

Tanks,

Liran.
---
http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~liranz/


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: mounting /usr as read only.

1998-05-01 Thread David Z. Maze

Liran Zvibel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LZ What do you have to say about $SUBJECT?
LZ I think that in that way the /usr partition cant get currupted.

It's probably a good preventative measure, in the same way that not
doing everything as root is.  The system should still work properly.
The only problem is with upgrading programs; if you're running one of
the Debian distributions that changes rapidly (frozen or unstable) you 
might want /usr read-write so you can update the system.  Overall,
though, it's probably not a bad idea...

-- 
 _
/ \   Dad was reading a book called
|  David Maze | _Schroedinger's Kittens_.  Asexual
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  reproduction?  Only one cat is in the box.
| http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ |   -- Abra Mitchell
\_/


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: How to speed up the EMACS at start-up ?

1998-05-01 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
Hi,

Thanks to all for the quick answer. The

$ emacs -batch -q -no-site-file -f batch-byte-compile source-file(s)

is what I've wanted. But this leads me to another question: now, as a 'system
adminstrator of my own PC, I just wonder which is the right way to add files
to emacs and to make them available to those who are working on my computer.
For instance, I want to add the JDE and don't know exactly were to put it and
how to make it system available.

Some advices would be welcome, especially as I'm a newbye in Emacs, Linux,
etc...

TIA,

Ionutz



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Adaptec 2840 VLB Fails from bootdisk

1998-05-01 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi Daniel; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
 
 I have a 486dx4/100 system that has both PCI and VLB on the same board.
 I have Caldera currently running on the machine.  The SCSI controller on
 it is a Adaptec 2840 VLB (Rev E, btw)
 
 Basically.. it hangs.. and gives errors something like scsi0 spurrious
 intterupt etc I'm using a boot disk that came with my CD from 1.3.1
 rev 6.


This is a known thing, and it happens only on 2842VLB card. The only solution
I know of is to have the boot disk reconfigured/ rewritten to use a specially
compiled kernel with only AIC77** (the one for the 2842 card) driver and none
of the other SCSI cards. I don't know if this is happening with hamm disks...
(I had switched over to the different card in the meantime)

HTH

DamirN


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


StarOffice 4.0 *.deb

1998-05-01 Thread Randy Edwards
   Is there a Debian package to automate the installation of
StarOffice 4.0?  Thanks in advance.

--
 Regards,|Debian GNU/__ o http://www.debian.org
 .   |  / /__  _  _  _  _ __  __
 Randy   | / /__  / / / \// //_// \ \/ /
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) |// /_/ /_/\/ /___/  /_/\_\
 |...because lockups are for convicts...
 |What is or why Linux?  Click on the below:
 http://www8.zdnet.com/pcmag/pctech/content/16/13/os1613.001.html



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


more SCSI Woes

1998-05-01 Thread Stephen Carpenter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Ok I got a differt SCSI card...the only one I could find in a reasonable 
price range locally was an Adaptec 1520 ...it is suported by the
152x driver I should hope...
here is the problem...
it coems up..in SCSI Bios and with jumpers I have set:
IRQ: 10 (also tried 11, and 9...all of which have the same behaviour)
io: 0x340 (also tried 0x140)
SCSI ID = 7
BIOS Adress DC000
..the SCSI bios detects my tape drive (SCSI ID 4)
then linux boots (command line aha152x=ioport,irq)
then...
it BIOS test Passed...
other stuff...
then 
aha152x: trying software interrupt lost
and aha152x: IRQ (the IRQ I chose and appended in lilo) possibly wrong..
then it says that every ID it tries is timing out

scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 6, scsi0, channel 0, id 6,
lun 0 Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00 

anyway...I did a cat /proc/intterupts and got:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sjc]$ cat /proc/interrupts 
 0: 386167   timer
 1:  10542   keyboard
 2:  0   cascade
 4: 123116 + serial
 5:165   NE2000
 8:  2 + rtc
12: 150329   PS/2 Mouse
13:  1   math error
14:  49013 + ide0
15:  0 + ide1
and: (ioports)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sjc]$ cat /proc/ioports 
-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : npu
0140-015f : aha152x
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
0300-031f : NE2000
0376-0376 : ide1
0378-037f : lp
03c0-03df : vga+
03f0-03f5 : floppy
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f7-03f7 : floppy DIR
03f8-03ff : serial(set)


What could possibly be wrong? I have tried every feasable setting...
and the SCSI BIOS detects the tape drive (and I have SCSI Tape Drive
suport compiled in kernel)
..I posted earlier...
someone suggested verifing the interupts and trying the other
ioport...I have...im even using a new adapter
I have never tried to setup SCSI before (on aPC...SCSI setup
was a no brainer on my Apple II GS way back when (shamefully I admit
way back when was 3 years ago)
this is starting to get frustrating...what could it be?
I NEED backup capability I read the SCSI HOWTO...still no help
same for the kernel SCSI readmes
- -Steve


-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 2.6.3a
Charset: noconv

iQCVAwUBNUlbN3xvn0zebBV9AQG4NAQAlRwutYUWO0wEztFbgON5SOyZdiWHScmf
lDZJFhUXauAbGa7IPlVLJj1MhIqgUKmtZGlrJv/s6Mn1my5ujDZwPMmHUOrTL88A
WvZ2Zx95UT/SWRjQ2vAOXqO+O0PvWrK8MtuNMIIaU660qeZdCbvhXGGONiU26zOZ
D8+twWmJnD4=
=RTwA
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]