Re: SVGATextMode-1_8-dos-tar.gz
J. Parera wrote: Cuál es el ejecutable que debo hacer correr para conseguir la linea correcta del XF86Config? grabwin desde una sesión windows te dará una línea de modeline en formato XF86Config, que corresponderá al modo de pantala que estás utilizando en Windows. Si te gusta ese modo las X te lo deben reproducir con esos valores. Saludos, -- = Agustín Martín Domingo, Dpto. de Física, ETS Arquitectura Madrid, (U. Politécnica de Madrid) tel: +34 +1 3366536, Fax: +34 +1 3366554, email:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/welcome.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: man: Segmentation fault y otros
On Mon, May 18, 1998 at 10:15:57AM -, Arocha Hernández, Luis wrote: En el arranque del PC, en el primer login que pide. Ah, te habia entendido otra cosa... el problema es que por algun motivo no fue actualizado el /etc/inittab. Debe verse mas o menos asi: id:2:initdefault: si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS ~~:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin l0:0:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 0 l1:1:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 1 l2:2:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 2 l3:3:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 3 l4:4:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 4 l5:5:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 5 l6:6:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 6 z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 le quite algunas cosas, pues creo que son las lineas que comienzan con un numero las que no tienes/tienes diferente. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: ddd y xxgdb se mueren]
Hola de nuevo:
La semana pasada os comentaba un problema que tengo con
ddd y xxgdb(adjunto el mensaje)
Me interesa saber si alguien que tenga la misma version
que yo tambien tiene estos problemas.
(Debian 1.3.1 r6 de la revista Linux Actual num. 1)
Como en las respuestas que me han llegado me solicitais
mas infomacion, pues ahi va.
Gracias anticipadas.
Saludos.
Fernando
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Hola:
Tengo un problema con los depuradores ddd y xxgdb
(no me funcionan :-( )
He creado un programa minimo, compilo con gcc -g hola.C
y obtengo a.out, ( funciona, ejecuto gdb y me permite
ejecutarlo, fijar breakpoints etc.)
ejecuto ddd sin parametros y arranca correctamente.
- open Program - aparece el dialogo - me muevo por los directorios
pero en donde deberian aparecer los archivos no aparece nada.
- open en dialogo sin escribir nada y aparece mensaje de error
Internal error (Segmentation fault ).
ejecuto ddd con parametro a.out - arranca y aparece el codigo de hola.C
en la ventana y poco despues no si si tras mover el raton o no se muere
dando un mensaje de Cannot perform malloc.
¿ Que puede estar pasando ?
Pruebo con xxgdb sin parametros e intento abrir el programa con file
- Segmentation violation :-(
Lo intento con xxgdb a.out y se muere unos segundos despues con el
mismo mensaje.
He desactivado el gpm por si pudiera interferir con las X pero nada.
Tengo instalada la distribucion debian 1.3.1 r6 (de la revista
Linux Actual publicada en España). Tanto Linux como las
X arrancan sin problemas ni errores.
Tengo 64 Mb de memoria y ejecuto sin problemas todo tipo de aplicaciones
X: xemacs, xboard, Netscape, xcoral, etc...
Trabajo con fvwm2 (prodria tener algo que ver).
En el manual de ddd busco bugs y sugiere probar
ddd --check-configuration
para ver si estan correctamente instaladas las X - el resultado es
Checking for X11 library directory... (not found)
Checking for XKeysymDB... /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB
Checking for nls directory... /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/nls
No configuration problems found.
¿ No es estraño que fallen los dos programas ?
¿ Le ha pasado esto a alguno de vosotros ?
Se agradecera cualquier ayuda, sugerencia, donativo :-)
Gracias anticipadas.
Saludos cordiales:
Fernando
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ide_setup: hdd=cdrom
Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fd090
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfd0a0
pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd0c1
Probing PCI hardware.
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 59.80 BogoMIPS
Memory: 63376k/65536k available (608k kernel code, 384k reserved, 1168k data)
Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
Linux version 2.0.29 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.1) #6 Sat Mar 28
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Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
hda: SAMSUNG WINNER-3 WN32543A(2.5GB), 2423MB w/109kB Cache, LBA, CHS=615/128/63
hdb: non-IDE drive, CHS=523/128/63
hdb: INVALID GEOMETRY: 128 PHYSICAL HEADS?
hdc: SAMSUNG WN321620A (2.16 GB), 2060MB w/109kB Cache, LBA, CHS=4186/16/63
hdd: 685A, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
Started kswapd v 1.4.2.2
FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2
hdc: hdc1 hdc2 hdc3 hdc4
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Adding Swap: 87188k swap-space
JAVA Binary support v1.01 for Linux 1.3.98 (C)1996 Brian A. Lantz
PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed.
lp1 at 0x0378, (polling)
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP: version
man: Segmentation fault
El problema se ha corregido con mandb -c. Gracias. Luís Arocha. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dudas sobre shadow
Hola Amigos de la Lista Deseo tener en una pc de reserva la imagen de mis servidores. Supongo una solucion no muy costosa es generar en particiones de un disco los mismos servicios que estoy dando en cada uno de mis servidores, y realizar algunas actualizaciones segun lo requiera. Pero tengo la duda siguiente: Tengo un mismo usuario en dos equipos con la misma password pero cuando edito el fichero shadow su contraceña no se parece en nada por esta razon me imagino que no me resultaria factible el copiar este fichero para la maquina de reserva. Supongo esto no debe ser complicado debe existir alguna opcion que me lo permita sin muchas dificultades, pero agradeceria me comentaran al respecto pues no la conozco. O darme la variante que ustedes consideren mas factible. Saludos Gracias anticipadas Humberto Morell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New ae uploaded to Incoming
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I can add this binding back into the ae.rc file with no difficulties, and probably should. It is exactly those function keys that these keybinding are supposed to be fixing. There are many terminals without function keys, all send a control key... There aren't many control keys. Maybe control-t (teach)? Control-e (explain) might also be viable, but normally, it's end-of-line in emacs. [Control-t is transpose in emacs, and ae doesn't need to support that.] -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
boot failure: hde: Probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS
Kernel 2.0.32 (from the kernel-image package) fails to boot hamm system. Reboot occurs after line b: a hda: ST3491A, 408MB w/120kB Cache, LBA, CHS=899/15/62 b hde: Probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS The system has only one drive and is AFAIK indicated correctly by line a. Booting with kernel 2.0.30 line b looks like this: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 After reading /usr/doc/kernel-doc-2.0.32/Documentation/ide.txt.gz I have tried command line parameters at the lilo prompt including the last resort, linux hda=slow, as well as variations of hda= and ide0= based on the data from the kernel 2.0.30 demsg but the system reboots exactly the same way with any parameters. I don't claim to understand ide.txt.gz. Anyhow, the data from kernel 2.0.30 demsg may give a clue to the problem: It appears that the0x1f0-0x1f7 in kernel 2.0.30 demsg ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 may be ambiguous since the normal address for ide0 is 0x1f0 according to ide.txt.gz. Everything works with kernel 2.0.30. The machine (cup: AMD 386sx/slx-25) as reported by MSDOS MSD.COM Computer Name: Tandy BIOS Manufacturer: Phoenix BIOS Version: DeskTop VGA BIOS (340-005-11-Rev1.00) Version 80386 ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 BIOS Category: IBM PC/AT BIOS ID Bytes: FC 01 00 BIOS Date: 05/13/92 Processor: 80386 Math Coprocessor: None Keyboard: Enhanced Bus Type: ISA/AT/Classic Bus DMA Controller: Yes Cascaded IRQ2: Yes BIOS Data Segment: None Is there a way to get kernel 2.0.32 to work with this system? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Kern Yarmouth, Nova Scotia Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python-base bug in Hamm
On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 03:34:29PM -0700, George Bonser wrote: On Sun, 17 May 1998, George Bonser wrote: I do not know what the trouble is with this, exactly but in the postinst script the lines that are supposed to pass the -q to the compileall.py script get interpreted as python opions and not passed to the script. I simply deleted the -q in the offending lines in /var/lib/dpkg/info/python-base.postinst and it appears to be working fine ... though probably a bit more verbose than intended. AFAIK, the maintainer has fixed this in 1.5.1-2. :-) It has something to do with getopts? :-) Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://olvc.home.ml.org/ or http://www.ualberta.ca/~foka/OLVC/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GDB
I'm using the -g flag. But gdb will tell me what code is causing the crash right? Thanks, Pete Poff E-Mail Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect oddities
Hi, Bill == Bill Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Manjo; I am interpreting what you are saying as meaning that Bill _every time_ I run dselect, I have to choose hold (=) to prevent Bill dselect from upgrading automagically. Now since I KNOW that Bill this is not correct, ie: I frequently run dselect and I do not Bill 'rechoose' hold to prevent updating what I asked dselect not to Bill upgrade in a previous session. I was assuming the worst case scenario -- that there are new standard or higher priority packages every time you run dselect. In practice, you do not really need to hold explicitly very often. manoj -- The Government just announced today the creation of the Neutron Bomb II. Similar to the Neutron Bomb, the Neutron Bomb II not only kills people and leaves buildings standing, but also does a little light housekeeping. from Global Village News on Nickelodeon Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect oddities
Hi, You put unstable in dselects install list. You then proceeded not to tell dslect to put ewverything on hold (as I have explained earlier, this involves hitting = twice on the right line in dselect). You then proceeded to install. Not currently being able to read minds, dselect did what you told it to -- not what you meant. Mind reading software is at least a decade away. Why did you think dselect would just upgrade applications and not libraries? Why did you not put stuff on hold? Why on earth did you place unstable in the path in the forst place? dpkg -i slrn*.deb would have worked, or told you about missing libraries, if any. manoj stable and bleeding edge are not compatible -- But the man who has freed himself of stains and has found peace of mind in an upright life, possessing self-restraint and integrity, he is indeed worthy of the dyed robe. 10 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPPD Not working?
On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 09:54:05AM -0400, Carroll Kong wrote: I cannot believe I am asking this since I had it working with Debian 1.3R6. After upgrading to Debian 2.0 via hamm, and reinstalling minicom, I tried doing my usual, login via minicom, quit without reset, run 'pppd /dev/modem 57600 crtscts defaultroute modem' then it hangs up instantly! Any ideas guys? Oh yeah... on kernel bootup, it says PPP loaded, with BSD PPPD compression (is this what is causing problems, the PPP compression?) If you don't mind making things easier :) , try the pppconfig package (pppconfig_1.0.deb), a new program for hamm/frozen. Like falling off a log... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Kern Yarmouth, Nova Scotia Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect oddities
Hi, Steve == Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 05:07:12PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Steve, I think you misunderstand what stable, unstable etc are. Steve No, I am not. I am well aware of it means. I think not. Unstable means expect glitches. Steve Exactly. But in doing so, with the current defaults in Steve dselect, when I move to the unstable directory it is an all Steve or nothing proposition, I don't get to pick and choose. Well, yes and no. You could move to slink, and hold every package there is. Then you get to choose what to upgrade. I do ot understand why this is so hard. Steve According to whose standards? To me dselect is far easier Steve because I don't have to wade through ~50 command line switches. Well. Either you look at the help (and it is way less than 50 options), or you hire people to help. I'll offer you a 50% discount since you use Debian, and I like Debian. That comes to umm, around $125/hour. You either learn to use your tools, or you pay people to let you use 'em. The free lunch with Linux ends at the learning curve. Steve Also, I really dislike it when people say, you can always do Steve it yourself. This, to me, is the pinnicle of arrogance. It Steve makes the assumption that the person on the other end can Steve program. People only say that when you have raised their hackles. I confess you have raised mine. See, either you do it yourself. Or you pay to have it done. Or you have to be polite. I mean, what's in it for me, anyway? Why do developers have to deal with people when the interaction is less than pleasant? Steve As I mentioned, sc is now broken because of the libraries in Steve slink. That would not have happened if it weren't for the Steve mindless autoupdate. Slink is unstable. Deal with it. It shall be fixed eventually. Steve I understand that. I have never contested that. But tell me Steve how the autoupdating mindset fits into where people want to Steve keep up with the latest? Would *YOU* autoupdate on the unstable Steve tree for every update out there or would you pick and choose Steve depending on what your needs are and let the rest of the Steve packages sit at what you *KNOW* are stable levels? I learn to use my tools. When I have to use a chain saw, I learn how first. I would learn dpkg. And update as I wish. Actually, I shall probably autoupdate to slink soon, as soon as we are frozen hard. Steve Except that it automatically installs unless I tell it Steve otherwise. DIY on Slackware is the reverse, only what I want Steve installed is installed. It is the subtle difference in the Steve default that makes a huge difference in the end. My Slackware Steve was based on 3.2. I had updated most of the programs on it by Steve hand at one time or another. My /usr/local/ directory was Steve slowly overtaing my /usr tree in size. It was rock solid for Steve two years. Seems to me that Slackware fits your needs way better than Debian. Steve Tell me, what is so hard to understand with this simple Steve concept: No autoupdating. Oh, not hard to understand at all. But we ain't convinced enough to do anything about it ourselves. Have you filed a wishlist bug yet? manoj -- Yippies, hippies, yahoos, Black Panthers, lions and tigers alike--I would swap the whole damn zoo for the kind of young Americans I saw in Vietnam. Spiro Agnew Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
updating through a proxy
I've got a bo (installed from a 1.3.1r6 CD) machine at work, and am looking for a good way to update it via FTP. The problem I have is that all FTP connections at our site have to go through a proxy (connect with the userid proxyftp, use the command quote site some.site.name to connect to the remote site, and finally login with the user command), and dselect does not appear to be able to accomodate this. Is there an easy way to automate this process, so that I don't need to manually check each package for an updated version? I'd be willing to download the individual packages manually, if required, but would like to be able to generate a list of which packages I need. Currently, this is just to apply the various security updates (etc.) from bo, and not to perform an update to hamm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP site
sh == shaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I recall it blocks access from systems for which a reverse DNS lookup fails. Maybe yours is such a system? sh I have this problem too (can't log in to an ftp site because of reverse DNS sh lookup). What must I change, or is it an ISP problem ? It is your ISP's problem. Nothing you can do about it. Complain about it and ask them to fix it. Ciao, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: updating through a proxy
On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 07:14:37PM -0500, Greg Norris wrote: I've got a bo (installed from a 1.3.1r6 CD) machine at work, and am looking for a good way to update it via FTP. The problem I have is that all FTP connections at our site have to go through a proxy (connect with the userid proxyftp, use the command quote site some.site.name to connect to the remote site, and finally login with the user command), and dselect does not appear to be able to accomodate this. dpkg-http (in hamm) can use a web proxy, if that's an option. I haven't installed it on a bo system, but can't think of any reason it wouldn't work. I've suggested it to a few people in similar circumstances and never heard back from them. (That might not be a good sign...) dpkg-ftp 1.4.9.1 and later have authenticated ftp proxy support. Neither dpkg-http nor dpkg-ftp depend on libc6, so it should be possible to install the latest versions on bo systems without updating anything else. -Drake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: updating through a proxy
I'll certainly take a look at both of them, and I'll post the results back to the list. Thanx! dpkg-http (in hamm) can use a web proxy, if that's an option. I haven't installed it on a bo system, but can't think of any reason it wouldn't work. I've suggested it to a few people in similar circumstances and never heard back from them. (That might not be a good sign...) dpkg-ftp 1.4.9.1 and later have authenticated ftp proxy support. Neither dpkg-http nor dpkg-ftp depend on libc6, so it should be possible to install the latest versions on bo systems without updating anything else. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade specifics
On Fri, 15 May 1998, Gregory Dickinson wrote: I am in the near future (next week or so) going to upgrade a web server that I have from 1.3.1 to 2.0 (frozen.) Is there a document that I can get that would take me along the least painful road to doing this, or does anyone have any suggestions? Use autoup.sh to upgrade (from the developer's corner of the website). Then, grab apt from project/experimental to finish the upgrade, it's very cool, eliminating the multiple passes through install/config/remove, and gives a status of the download (use the apt method in dselect). Brandon - Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] We all know linux is great... it PGP: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] does infinite loops in 5 seconds Phone: (757) 596-5550 --Linus Torvalds -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libXpm and xgalaga
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While trying to get xgalaga set up I ran ./configure as laid out in the install doc, and got an error message about libXpm not being found. [snip configuration troubles] Why don't you just install the Debian xgalaga package? It should be in non-free, I think. That should take care of all the dependencies for you. Noel -- If the very old will remember, the very young will listen. -- Chief Dan George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade specifics
On Sun, 17 May 1998, Brandon Mitchell wrote: On Fri, 15 May 1998, Gregory Dickinson wrote: I am in the near future (next week or so) going to upgrade a web server that I have from 1.3.1 to 2.0 (frozen.) Is there a document that I can get that would take me along the least painful road to doing this, or does anyone have any suggestions? Use autoup.sh to upgrade (from the developer's corner of the website). Then, grab apt from project/experimental to finish the upgrade, it's very cool, eliminating the multiple passes through install/config/remove, and gives a status of the download (use the apt method in dselect). Actually you can do it all with apt, get the bo version from http://www.debian.org/~jgg/apt_0.0.pre9-1bo1_i386.deb Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP site
On Sun, 17 May 1998, George Bonser wrote: : On 18 May 1998, Martin Bialasinski wrote: : : : It is your ISP's problem. Nothing you can do about it. Complain about it : and ask them to fix it. : : : It is PARTLY the ISP's problem. If they are unwilling to change the PTR : record for the in-addr.arpa domain then the user is responsible for : changing the hostname to match the exiating PTR record. : : In other words, you should probably set your hostname to what returns when : you do a name lookup on your IP address if you ISP is not willing to : change it. Uh, no. Most ISPs do something like nobody.netblock.isp.com - that's why the lookup fails. If they did it right, it would work everytime, no matter what hostname the user has set. Why? Well, let's examine what happens ... You connect to the server. The server now has your IP address. It does a reverse lookup on that address. It then does a FORWARD lookup on the answer it got from the reverse lookup. We have a NAT pool here ... so the IP address 208.150.221.219 might resolve to pc-219.pix-pool1.midco.net. Luckily for MidcoNet users :), pc-219.pix-pool1.midco.net does in fact resolve to 208.150.221.219. If it doesn't, there's not a damn thing the user can do, sorry. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: downloading packages from WindowsNT
. . . I've been told that I can't have the Linux box on when I'm at work so I was wondering if it was possible to set-up the Linux box to fetch the packages from the Windows Machine automatically while I'm away? Are you dialing the Windows machine over a telephone line? No, as I said, I am using a null-modem cable from the Windows machine about 3 ft from the Linux box. You can undoubtedly find a package to automate dialing and downloading (I'd look at Kermit, myself) but why not just invest $3 in a CD-ROM Can Kermit ( or some other Debian Linux package) be set to automatically download over the null-modem cable? I don't even have access to the MAN pages on my system! If you don't have a CD-ROM drive, invest $29 in a 12 speed at your local CompUSA. Save yourself a world of hair-pulling downloading I believe the closest CompUSA is on the other side of the Atlantic(never mind the address, I'm in Ireland) and the machine isn't my property, it is borrowed from work and I can only take so many liberties before the boss takes it away( I've already stretched the limits by setting up the Base system before I asked) entire distributions. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum http://dm.net Thanks for your suggestions but it's just not do-able in my current situation. Believe me, when I get my own PC at home, it will be a much better and cleaner install. Until then, I suffer for working at the ONLY networking company that insists on using WindowsNT. Cheers, John Gay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TEX mailing list
On Sat, 16 May 1998, Lazar Fleysher wrote: Could someone tell me the tex mailing list, please, From the tetex README file: === mailing list: === There are two mailing-lists for teTeX: Get help from the list server with: echo help | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe the teTeX discussion list, do: echo subscribe tetex | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe the teTeX announce list, do: echo subscribe tetex-announce | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get an archive of the list: echo get tetex archive | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] I send questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I cannot remember the subscription procedure or address. Johann. -- | Johann SpiesWindsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3201 Pietermaritzburg| | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid Afrika (South Africa) | -- Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life. He that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live. John 11:25 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need libcurses.so.1
On Fri, May 15, 1998 at 03:29:15PM -0400, dave oswald wrote: need libcurses.so.1 what package do i need to install ? Please resond to [EMAIL PROTECTED], in addition to the list. get the file called Contents-i386.gz from ftp.debian.org, and search it, it has a list of all files and the packages that they are in, you can also try searching on www.debian.org, but I don't know if that would work, since I don't use it.. pgpZpE8QNI6Iw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OFF TOPIC]: weird cpu statistics w/ x11amp
On Sat, May 16, 1998 at 05:43:46AM -0400, Paul Miller wrote: Anyone used x11amp before? Top seems to be reporting odd cpu statistics. Look at the table below. Both programs were ran on the same system, one before upgrading to a pentium-200mmx chip, and the other after. program cyrix-166+ pentium-200mmx mpg12340% 10% x11amp80% 4% (for x11amp, cpu percent is the sum of the two processes.) Does this make any sense? x11amp is configured to run in 'real time' mode.. would that avoid the cpu statistics? The percent idle is around 97% percent with x11amp my new pentium-200mmx chip. Strange? no, the pentium chip(s) have a far better fpu which is what x11amp relies on heavily. Personally I have a cyrix 150+ and x11amp does not work well at all.. :) pgp8RH1DeUsA7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Printing
Hi,
I am using Debian Linux 1.3.1 on a 486-DX40 (Cyrix). The FTP Linux
installation is about two weeks old.
Originally I could print to lp using the generic printer in printcap,
but got the classic stair step effect on my HP LaserJet 5L. After
editing my printcap file and adding the filter script per the
printing-howto I no longer get any printed output.
I added the following line to printcap.
:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:\
and in /var/spool/lpd/lp I created the following perl script.
#!/bin/perl
while (STDIN){chop $_; print $_\r\n;};
The printer came alive, ejected a page without any printed text and the
filter script indicated a problem in line 2 near ; print. Execution
of /var/spool/lpd/lp/filter aborted due to compilation errors. I even
removed the added line in printcap and still get a clean sheet of paper
with no print. What would have happened to printcap by adding a line
and then deleting it?
Suggestions please.
Also does any have a good printcap entry for the HP Laserjet 5L.
TIA
John
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Re: GDB
I'm using the -g flag. But gdb will tell me what code is causing the crash right? Maybe. The error you got, a segmentation fault, means that you tried to access an illegal memory address. It could be that you wrote beyond the limits of an array, or made an error in memory allocation. The problem with this kind of errors is, that they don't always occur in the part of the code where the bug is. Often you will find that that the segmentation fault arises in a piece of library code, like malloc() or free(), or in a piece of the code way beyond the bug. Sometimes the code might run seemingly `OK' on a different machine or on a different input set. To improve on this situation you could install the electric-fence library (it is in a debian package). This has replacements for malloc() and friends that crash immediately at the actual offending memory access. Then you would link the program with -umalloc -lefence, e.g.: gcc -o myprg -g -O2 *.o -umalloc -lefence The run `myprg' in gdb, like gdb myprg Type `run' to run the program, and after it crashes, type `where'. This should get you going. Be sure to read the man page from efence carefully (man efence). You need to set environment variables for different kinds of checks, like overruns or underruns. HTH, Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to handle lots of mail
Ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Thursday May 14. I'll read first (right now that's OCLUG and all ARM and netwinder related ones). I consider everything else low priority mail - I'll browse it when I get the chance. I also get spam. Lots of it. This mail goes into a folder called spamcan. [Simple example: If I got the message from a mailing list that I'm not on.] Later, I'll look at it and move it to a folder called spam, which I use to train another one of my spam filters. Mail sent directly to me (To: or Cc:) gets my immediate attention, if it passes through a spam filter called SpamBeGone unscathed. It ends up in a folder called personal. Now I don't want to read another complaint about volume on this list! :-) It is easy to handle, even if you don't subscribe to the OCLUG digest. If I can do it with hundreds of messages per day, so can you with far fewer! I haven't the faintest idea how to go about filtering spam. Seriously, I have no clue how people do it. But my most immediate question has to do with handling mail that is sent BOTH to you, and to a mailing list (doesn't matter which is to: and which is cc:) I want to get this mail in my inbox but also in the list box. This is what I have so far: (only OCLUG group shown) PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin DEFAULT=/var/spool/mail/kiyan MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail #you'd better make sure it exists LOGFILE=$HOME/log/procmail.log #recommended :0c * (^To:|^Cc:).*kiyan\@ * (^To:|^Cc:).*oclug $DEFAULT :0 * (^To:|^Cc:).*oclug OCLUG :0c * (^Subject:).* ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Right now this sends a carbon copy of all mail that is BOTH to/cc me AND to/cc the list, to my inbox... and the next recipe sends it off to the list box. The only thing is, because of the addressing facts, I obviously get TWO copies (one from the listserver, and one directly to me). So I end up with a duplicate in my inbox and the listbox. How do I handle this more elegantly? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] A scientific truth does not triumph by convincing A. Kiyan Azarbar its opponents and making them see the light, but Ottawa, Canadarather because its opponents eventually die and a Linux 2.0.33 new generation grows up that is familiar with it. 1024/0x9A9EC5EA 4F3ADBDA1EE5850209DD8BB205250ED2F696A7BE ^- Max Planck pgpuZJbT8xE3z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dselect oddities
On 17 May 1998 18:26:36 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: You put unstable in dselects install list. You then proceeded not to tell dslect to put ewverything on hold (as I have explained earlier, this involves hitting = twice on the right line in dselect). Which I didn't know I could do. You then proceeded to install. Not currently being able to read minds, dselect did what you told it to -- not what you meant. Mind reading software is at least a decade away. No, it didn't do what I told it to do. I didn't tell it to install anything. I, as a newbie to Debian, was not aware that dselect would mindlessly update. Why did you think dselect would just upgrade applications and not libraries? I didn't. Why did you not put stuff on hold? Unaware of it. Why on earth did you place unstable in the path in the forst place? To get the latest versions of applications with features that I am used to. Manoj, I've explained all of this at least half a dozen times. WTF are you asking once more? dpkg -i slrn*.deb would have worked, or told you about missing libraries, if any. And that assumes, again, that I downloaded it. dselect is an all-in-one process. Quit jumping from one pardigm to another. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to print A0 documents on A4 printer ?
Hi, I have to do a poster for a conference. The poster should be A0 or something around. But we have only an A4 printer. In Windows, Corel can manage this: it splits the A0 on A4 so that you can print several sheets of A4 paper and then glue them together and obtain the A0 document. Corel also lets some extra space to allow gluing and also considers the printable area for the chosen printer. Any idea about how can I do something similar in Linux (with LaTeX, postscript, etc. - free software) ? TIA, Ionutz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect oddities
On 17 May 1998 18:37:35 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Steve On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 05:07:12PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Steve, I think you misunderstand what stable, unstable etc are. Steve No, I am not. I am well aware of it means. I think not. Unstable means expect glitches. Manoj, if I didn't know WTF it meant why the hell do you think I wanted to selectively upgrade into it? Well, yes and no. You could move to slink, and hold every package there is. Then you get to choose what to upgrade. I do ot understand why this is so hard. As I've stated, each time I add a new package or, and we'll find out here shortly enough, put one off hold and upgrade I need to reset all the packages back to hold. It is keystrokes that are not needed when a simple option to change the default behavior is clear. I don't understand why grasping that simple concept is so hard. Steve According to whose standards? To me dselect is far easier Steve because I don't have to wade through ~50 command line switches. Well. Either you look at the help (and it is way less than 50 options), or you hire people to help. I'll offer you a 50% discount since you use Debian, and I like Debian. That comes to umm, around $125/hour. Or I use the tools which are presented and make suggestions to their improvement. I wouldn't pay you $1.25 an hour, and that is assuming a 50% bonus. Want to know why? You don't read and try to understand what the person is saying. You either learn to use your tools, or you pay people to let you use 'em. The free lunch with Linux ends at the learning curve. Or you make suggestions as to the improvement of said tools that will benefit everyone. Or don't you want suggestions now? People only say that when you have raised their hackles. I confess you have raised mine. See, either you do it yourself. Or you pay to have it done. Or you have to be polite. And I have been polite until now. So get off your high horse, Manoj. I mean, what's in it for me, anyway? Why do developers have to deal with people when the interaction is less than pleasant? I posted a challenge to you. Go back to my original 1 sentence message and describe how I was rude. I wasn't. Until then I have been reactionary in my tone. Think about it. Slink is unstable. Deal with it. It shall be fixed eventually. I am dealing with it by making an observation and suggestion on how dselect can be improved to allow easier use. In fact, I've made TWO of them in the course of this thread, you did see both of them, right? One of which would be trivial to impliment, the other would be nominal and would make dselect's selection process damn near perfect. Seems to me that Slackware fits your needs way better than Debian. Maybe. But I got tired of doing tarballs. I've said that as well. Oh, not hard to understand at all. But we ain't convinced enough to do anything about it ourselves. Have you filed a wishlist bug yet? Why? At this point I know the developers are aware of it and either they're going to do something about it or they aren't. Such a wishlist with my name on it will make no difference on way or the other. Besides, that comes back down to you thinking I have demanded something when I have not. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to print A0 documents on A4 printer ?
On Mon, May 18, 1998 at 08:09:10AM +, Ionut Borcoman at musa wrote: [how to make A0 poster from A4 files] At ftp://ftp.ics.ele.tue.nl/pub/poster/ you can find a nice little tool that makes posters from (encapsulated) PostScript files. Too bad there it doesn't mention copyright terms, so we can't make a package for it. Jos, perhaps you can release it under public domain, BSD license, GPL license or another license that is free in the sense of http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html#guidelines aka http://www.opensource.org/osd.html ? Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect oddities
On Mon, May 18, 1998 at 01:07:29AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On 17 May 1998 18:37:35 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Well. Either you look at the help (and it is way less than 50 options), or you hire people to help. I'll offer you a 50% discount since you use Debian, and I like Debian. That comes to umm, around $125/hour. Or I use the tools which are presented and make suggestions to their improvement. I wouldn't pay you $1.25 an hour, and that is assuming a 50% bonus. Want to know why? You don't read and try to understand what the person is saying. Steve, we read and we understand what you want. We have suggested ways in which you can both (a) work around the lack of this feature now, and (b) request that it be added in the future. But you don't listen to our replies. I posted a challenge to you. Go back to my original 1 sentence message and describe how I was rude. I wasn't. Until then I have been reactionary in my tone. Think about it. I have -- I think you were rude. As I replied then, constructive criticism is welcome, unconstructive criticism is not. Why? At this point I know the developers are aware of it and either they're going to do something about it or they aren't. Such a wishlist with my name on it will make no difference on way or the other. The bug system is the proper recording mechanism for this. For the bug system to forget something, somebody has to tell it to. On the other hand, people can forget things far more easily. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect oddities
On Mon, 18 May 1998 18:46:06 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Steve, we read and we understand what you want. We have suggested ways in which you can both (a) work around the lack of this feature now, and (b) request that it be added in the future. But you don't listen to our replies. Incorrect. This last time out I did as Manoj suggested. I have found out that by taking the packages off hold they do not return to that state so one has to place the packages on hold each time they do an update to maintain the desired behavior. What you have suggested to know, what I have done in the mean time you do not. Please, do not presume to know what I have done. I posted a challenge to you. Go back to my original 1 sentence message and describe how I was rude. I wasn't. Until then I have been reactionary in my tone. Think about it. I have -- I think you were rude. As I replied then, constructive criticism is welcome, unconstructive criticism is not. Let's go through this one more time. Am I the only one who feels that dselect should not update packages unless explicitly told to? What about that is rude? What about it is unconstrictive criticism? Am I the only one - Question, asking people if they are of a similar... who feels - ...opinion about the... that deselect - ...program in question and its... should not update packages unless explicitly told to? - ...default behavor. Let's review, class. There is nothing rude about that sentence. It is not unconstrictive criticism. In fact, it is quite clear, concise, is not in a condicending tone, and is, above all, a question. Not a demand like some people have claimed. Now, if you want rude, Hamish, take a look at the replies I've gotten and the messages I've send out just recently. That is beginning to be rude. But if you think the above is rude, you had better get a thicker skin because that 1 atom thick stuff you're wearing now just isn't cutting it. And I issue the challenge again, describe how Am I the only one who feels that dselect should not update packages unless explicitly told to? is rude. I am getting tired of asking it. The bug system is the proper recording mechanism for this. For the bug system to forget something, somebody has to tell it to. On the other hand, people can forget things far more easily. Valid point. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some Questions about KDE / Whereis / FVWM
Hi I am using Debian 1.3.1 Release 6. I tried ti install it on the last weekend, and it works... okay... some questions are open: 1.) When I am using Whereis , is it possible to see more than one result ??? Searching for a file is not so good, if i ONly see the first !!! 2.) FVWM: Nive , but how can i remove the virtual Desktop ?? I tried to chance the VirtualDesktop 5X2 Line in 1X1 (File: system.fvwmrc), bu nothing changes 3.) KDE I cant install it ! When I use DBPK than some Libraries are not found, wrong version-nomber (QT !!! , LIBGIF !!) When I try to install qt 1.32 by Hand with RPM than RPM tells me, that he needs /bin/sh , but /bin/sh is there Thanx Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printing
Have you considered installing magicfilter ?
My HP LJ 6L works fine with the lj4l filter from mgicfilter and the
following entry i /etc/printcap
lp|Generic dot-matrix printer entry
:lp=/dev/lp1
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp
:af=/var/log/lp-acct
:lf=/var/log/lp-errs
:if=/var/spool/lpd/filters/ljet4l-filter
:pl#66
:pw#80
:pc#150
:mx#0
:sh
Hope this helps
George
On Mon, 18 May 1998, John C. Ellingboe wrote:
Hi,
I am using Debian Linux 1.3.1 on a 486-DX40 (Cyrix). The FTP Linux
installation is about two weeks old.
Originally I could print to lp using the generic printer in printcap,
but got the classic stair step effect on my HP LaserJet 5L. After
editing my printcap file and adding the filter script per the
printing-howto I no longer get any printed output.
I added the following line to printcap.
:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:\
and in /var/spool/lpd/lp I created the following perl script.
#!/bin/perl
while (STDIN){chop $_; print $_\r\n;};
The printer came alive, ejected a page without any printed text and the
filter script indicated a problem in line 2 near ; print. Execution
of /var/spool/lpd/lp/filter aborted due to compilation errors. I even
removed the added line in printcap and still get a clean sheet of paper
with no print. What would have happened to printcap by adding a line
and then deleting it?
Suggestions please.
Also does any have a good printcap entry for the HP Laserjet 5L.
TIA
John
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Re: dselect oddities
Fine, be rude. At least post it to debian-user so we can all have right of reply. For the absolute last time -- there is nothing wrong with your suggestion. Please submit it to the bug system. Nobody thinks there is a problem with your suggestion. I do not think there is a problem with your suggestion, indeed I think it is a logical extension of dpkg. My only complaint is with how you ask for it. I do not know why you keep asking, over and over again. I have put far more energy in to this conversation than it deserves. I wish Manoj luck if he wants to continue it. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt Mobile: +61 412 011 176 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rising Software Australia Pty. Ltd. Developers of music education software including Auralia Musition. 31 Elmhurst Road, Blackburn, Victoria Australia, 3130 Phone: +61 3 9894 4788 Fax: +61 3 9894 3362 USA Toll Free: 1-888-667-7839 Internet: http://www.rising.com.au/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect oddities
On Mon, May 18, 1998 at 01:57:12AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Now, if you want rude, Hamish, take a look at the replies I've gotten and the messages I've send out just recently. That is beginning to be rude. But if you think the above is rude, you had better get a thicker skin because that 1 atom thick stuff you're wearing now just isn't cutting it. I do not think I should need a thick skin when volunteering my time. thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to print A0 documents on A4 printer ?
Hi, Thanks for the http address. From the README and the documentation, it looks like it is just what I was needed. I will test it and if it does what it claims, than it surely deserves to be packed as a .deb package, if the author allows this. Ionutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 18, 1998 at 08:09:10AM +, Ionut Borcoman at musa wrote: [how to make A0 poster from A4 files] At ftp://ftp.ics.ele.tue.nl/pub/poster/ you can find a nice little tool that makes posters from (encapsulated) PostScript files. Too bad there it doesn't mention copyright terms, so we can't make a package for it. Jos, perhaps you can release it under public domain, BSD license, GPL license or another license that is free in the sense of http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html#guidelines aka http://www.opensource.org/osd.html ? Ray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V98 #344
Look at the linux laptop web site. You may be able to find it through http://www.linux.org, or you may be able to use an altavista type search. I ran two laptops---you wouldn't believe it, the T1800 and the T1850C. Both worked well, with the exception that X wasn't much use. I eventually cleansed the T1850C of Windoze, partially by an error, but never regretted it much. You shouldn't have to order a preconfigured laptop. Alan. -- Alan E. Davis Marianas High School (Science Department) AAA196, Box 10001[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.saipan.netpci.com/~adavis Saipan, MP 9695015.16oN 145.7oEGMT+10 Northern Mariana Islands -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#22557: bo-unstable dir: missing deb file.
Martin Schulze wrote: reassign 22557 ftp.debian.org thanks Oops, I didn't know I could assign the bug to debian.org itself. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Block device name by dselect-program (ACCESS) -Reply
you should enter /dev/hdd there, if it is the slave drive on the secondary controller. Or, just follow this: /dev/hda First drive, primary controller /dev/hdb Second drive, primary controller /dev/hdc First drive, Secondary controller /dev/hdd Second Drive, Secondary controller A. Nowakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/16/98 05:07am Please help me !!! I am very interesting on installing of Debian 1.3.1. (r.6) By dselect-program, by ACCESS, is the question: INSERT THE CD-ROM AND ENTER THE BLOCK DEVICE NAME. What I must answer? I see, my cd-rom isn not yet installed (i can open). My cd-rom is the new LG (iso9660) and is as secound on secondary slot. Can you send me short infor on my e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? A. Nowakowski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running Modules at Boot Time...
Hey all, I have a question about installing modules at boot time. it seems just having the aha152x module in /etc/modules is not good enough. It gripes about dependency problem. I have 'append=aha152x=0x340,11' in lilo.conf. Once the system is booted up and I logon as ROOT, I can type: insmod aha152x aha152x=0x340,11 And all is fine. How do I load this module during bootup? --Jay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to handle lots of mail
On Mon, 18 May 1998, Kiyan Azarbar wrote:
Ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Thursday May 14.
snip
But my most immediate question has to do with handling mail that is sent BOTH
to you, and to a mailing list (doesn't matter which is to: and which is cc:) I
want to get this mail in my inbox but also in the list box. This is what I
have so far: (only OCLUG group shown)
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin
DEFAULT=/var/spool/mail/kiyan
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail #you'd better make sure it exists
LOGFILE=$HOME/log/procmail.log #recommended
:0c
* (^To:|^Cc:).*kiyan\@
* (^To:|^Cc:).*oclug
$DEFAULT
:0
* (^To:|^Cc:).*oclug
OCLUG
:0c
* (^Subject:).*
! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Right now this sends a carbon copy of all mail that is BOTH to/cc me AND to/cc
the list, to my inbox... and the next recipe sends it off to the list box. The
only thing is, because of the addressing facts, I obviously get TWO copies
(one from the listserver, and one directly to me). So I end up with a
duplicate in my inbox and the listbox.
How do I handle this more elegantly?
I think the following will do it:
:0
* (^To:|^Cc:).*oclug
{
:0:
* (^To:|^Cc:).*kiyan\@
$DEFAULT
:0:
OCLUG
}
or even:
:0:
* (^To:|^Cc:).*oclug
* (^To:|^Cc:).*kiyan\@
$DEFAULT
:0E:
* (^To:|^Cc:).*oclug
OCLUG
Hope that helps.
Chris
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Re: Printing
On Mon, 18 May 1998, John C. Ellingboe wrote: : Hi, : : I am using Debian Linux 1.3.1 on a 486-DX40 (Cyrix). The FTP Linux : installation is about two weeks old. : : Originally I could print to lp using the generic printer in printcap, : but got the classic stair step effect on my HP LaserJet 5L. After : editing my printcap file and adding the filter script per the : printing-howto I no longer get any printed output. [ snip ] : Suggestions please. Just to second, magicfilter is what you want. I installed it the other day to drive an HP III, and I just about fell over - it was so easy to configure! (Well, banners still don't work right, but that's not magicfilter's fault) -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running Modules at Boot Time...
Two things: 1. make sure that auto is the last line in /etc/modules. I have seen odd behavior otherwise. 2. if all else fails, insmod it in a script, the but the script in rc0.boot or something. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect oddities
On Fri, 15 May 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: No, the reply I thought went to the list didn't because this list does not correctly set the reply-to field. Seems to me it sets it right... ie, it leaves it how the original sender set it. Stepping on a user's header is a Bad Thing IMO. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some Questions about KDE / Whereis / FVWM
Stefan Kunkel wrote: 1.) When I am using Whereis , is it possible to see more than one result ??? Searching for a file is not so good, if i ONly see the first !!! Try the locate command. -- ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to (was: dselect oddities)
On Mon, 18 May 1998 09:07:52 -0300 (ADT), Trevor Barrie wrote: No, the reply I thought went to the list didn't because this list does not correctly set the reply-to field. Seems to me it sets it right... ie, it leaves it how the original sender set it. Stepping on a user's header is a Bad Thing IMO. Incorrect. Many mailing lists, in fact, the grand majority that are run properly, set the reply-to to the list. This is because a mailing list for discussion among a group and replies should default back to the group without a CC to the original poster. Without the reply-to field set the behavior for many clients is to either reply to the user alone (which most people do not want, they want to reply to the list) or reply to everyone to get the list. The problem with that is if that trend continues a copy is sent to the list as well as copies to every person who ever participated in a thread. Without the efforts of the individuals in this thread alone we would be sending duplicates to a good 7-8 members. If we are going to have private CC lists like that, what is the point of having the list software to distribute the mail? In short, it is bad form. The only thing that prevents both of those, automatically, is to set the reply-to to the list. This means that people who want to reply to the list (which is, IMHO, the default behavior outside of announce lists) can do so easily, we're not constantly culling the CC: list of duplicate entries, and for the rare case when people want to send a private message to the individual of a particular message nearly all of the modern email clients on a variety of platforms give the user the choice of which address to send to with the reply-to as default. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reply-to (was: dselect oddities)
I'm afraid Ill have to drag out this again. Please read: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html On Mon, 18 May 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, 18 May 1998 09:07:52 -0300 (ADT), Trevor Barrie wrote: No, the reply I thought went to the list didn't because this list does not correctly set the reply-to field. Seems to me it sets it right... ie, it leaves it how the original sender set it. Stepping on a user's header is a Bad Thing IMO. Incorrect. Many mailing lists, in fact, the grand majority that are run properly, set the reply-to to the list. This is because a mailing list for discussion among a group and replies should default back to the group without a CC to the original poster. Without the reply-to field set the behavior for many clients is to either reply to the user alone (which most people do not want, they want to reply to the list) or reply to everyone to get the list. The problem with that is if that trend continues a copy is sent to the list as well as copies to every person who ever participated in a thread. Without the efforts of the individuals in this thread alone we would be sending duplicates to a good 7-8 members. If we are going to have private CC lists like that, what is the point of having the list software to distribute the mail? In short, it is bad form. The only thing that prevents both of those, automatically, is to set the reply-to to the list. This means that people who want to reply to the list (which is, IMHO, the default behavior outside of announce lists) can do so easily, we're not constantly culling the CC: list of duplicate entries, and for the rare case when people want to send a private message to the individual of a particular message nearly all of the modern email clients on a variety of platforms give the user the choice of which address to send to with the reply-to as default. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gdb
when you start gdb, issue a 'break main' instruction BEFORE you issue the run command ... You can then 'step' (or 's') through the program and find out where exactlty the error occured --Jon Pete Poff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I try out gdb on my program, all I can get is 'Program recieved signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x8096baa in ? (). Does anyone know how I can use that to find out what code is causing the crash? I've read the helps, but can seem to what to use. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lpd daemon runs away and won't come home
I've had this problem sporadicly, and it's started again. After a few days, the print que starts piling up without printing. lpq reports that no daemon is present. I've tried restartign, and stop/starting /etc/init.d/lpd, to no avail. All I've found so far to get it back is to actually reboot. there must be an easier way . . . rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reply-to (was: dselect oddities)
On Mon, 18 May 1998 11:40:26 -0400 (EDT), Scott Ellis wrote: I'm afraid Ill have to drag out this again. Please read: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Read it, laughed at every point in it as every single part of it is false and misleading. It looks like it was written years ago and fails to address the most important point I made... Without the reply-to it forces the users of the list to cull the To/CC list else we are sending out duplicates of every message to an ever increasing number of recipiants. I loved his biased view of of how many keystrokes it takes since he does take the above problem into consideration. The only valid issue he raises is a technical one where a user wishes replies directed back to a different address. This is near moot because in this day and age most people are sending from their valid email. So three conditions must be met to make this point valid: 1: The person sets a reply-to different than his current address. 2: The person reading wants to reply. 3: The person replying wants to do so privately. In mailing lists most messages are sent by people from their current and valid address, are read by a vast majority of people but never replied to by them, and when a reply is made it is, more often than not by an order of at least a magnitude, to the list and not to the individual. Let's compare that to the alternative, no reply-to set and people not culling the To/CC field. Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Leach Those are the names of all the people that I have replied to in the course of the dselect oddities thread. If I had not culled the list, if others on that list had not culled the list, we would be sending out 7 copies of each message. 1 to the list and 6 to people on the above list (which numbers 7, the 6 comes from a message not going to the sender). Remember, that thread was fairly self-contained. I've been in discussions on lists that would involve 20-30 members from the list. That is 20-30 copies of each message by the end. Now, which is more common? People wanting private replies from a public list going to a different account than the one they use, or people not culling the to/cc list? Which causes the most damage? Not culling the to/cc list. That issue was not addressed at all in that page. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Netscape Configuration
Has anyone figured out a way to maintain Netscape prefs for users centrally? Barring that, how do you setup the .netscape directory for new users so that some prefs are configured (default home page, SMTP/POP servers, etc.) I would appreciate hearing any techniques that you may have found useful. Tim Tim Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Specialist Office: Snow Hall 643 Department of Mathematics Voice: 785-864-7311 University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 Fax: 785-864-5255 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reply-to (was: dselect oddities)
On Mon, 18 May 1998 09:00:43 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, 18 May 1998 11:40:26 -0400 (EDT), Scott Ellis wrote: I'm afraid Ill have to drag out this again. Please read: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Read it, laughed at every point in it as every single part of it is false and misleading. If anyone is interested in reading the entire, section by section rebuttal I wrote to the author of the above mentioned web page, email me privately and I'll send you a copy. I cannot believe such antiquated dribble still is being perpetuated. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xterm disappears after 'xterm -e login username'
Does anyone know why $ xterm -e login username briefly flashes an xterm window which immediately disappears if username differs from the currently logged in user and if the currently logged in user isn't root? Normally the new xterm would remain with a password prompt. This started happening today for no apparent reason. It reports no errors and I found no related errors logged in /var/adm/messages, .xsession-errors or /var/log/auth.log. I'm still able to login as username at another virtual terminal outside of Xwindows. My software versions are: xbase3.3.2.1-1 login980403-0.2 bash 2.01-5 kernel 2.0.33 For what it's worth, I've noticed two other, possibly related bugs: 1.) $ su username After entering username's password, it says: shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories job-working-directory: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories job-working-directory: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories job-working-directory: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories job-working-directory: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories job-working-directory: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories 2.) The keyboard sometimes freezes or fails to clear an input line while typing in an xterm. For example, the mail reading program named Mutt will prompt the user for the filename to save a mail message to. It's stopped allowing me to clear all of the default filename. Thanks, Kingsley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Other language support -- how?
I recently saw a post here where all of the kernel messages and what not were in Spanish. How was this done? What if you want a language that is not supported -- how do you add one? Is there a site/howto/whatever that discusses how to add language support to linux and to programs you are writing? All info welcome. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lpd daemon runs away and won't come home
On Mon, 18 May 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: : : I've had this problem sporadicly, and it's started again. After a few days, : the print que starts piling up without printing. lpq reports that no daemon : is present. I've tried restartign, and stop/starting /etc/init.d/lpd, to no : avail. All I've found so far to get it back is to actually reboot. : : there must be an easier way . . . Does ps report an lpd process running? I've found that at times lpd quits working, yet there is still a process present. '/etc/init.d/lpd stop' doesn't get rid of it, either, and '/etc/init.d/lpd start' is similarly useless. However, if I kill the process, '/etc/init.d/lpd start' does the trick. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem with alsa driver.
Hello :) i'm actually trying to install alsa driver. But is such expecting some problems ... When i use 'modprobe snd-sb16' command, the driver isn't recognize my card, he said it's not here or busy. My card is a Pnp card, so i have configured isapnp tools, and all seems to be allright... If someone as a way.. Bye :) -- Pierre Dupuis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) MusicReview (http://home.nordnet.fr/~pdupuis) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem while installing alsa drivers (next)
re :) Well situation isn't seems to be as dramatic as i think. Sb_init command seems to work properly, it will say that my card is detected corectly... The problem seems to be when card need to be located, I'm not sure to have corectly configure isapnp.conf '(IO x (Base))' command, i want my card to be located at 0x220 or 0x240 adress. If someone can help :) Bye -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Database Connectivity via JDBC and Oracle
I know it has been a hot topic a couple of time to talk about how Linux can run a copy of Oracle (SCO version), but I am simply looking to connect to it. I have read on Oracle newsgroups that you can get database connectivity via the JDBC on Linux. Do I need to get a JDBC driver from Oracle? They meantion that the JDK v1.0.2 and v1.1.1 both have the Thin and OCI clients. If this is the case what do I need to get for debian to get this to work? I am wanting to connect to a Oracle Server v8.0.4 running on NT. Any pointers? --Jay Barbee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Default Beep
There is an app that lets you do this. I read it in one of the Debian packaged howtos. It is the same program that lets you change all kinds of low level stuff. Like console colors and what not. Chris wrote: I just had a weird though - is it possible to change the default beep in linux? You know - the one you get in vi all the time ;) If you use X, you can put something like xset b 50 1760 20 in your .xsession or .xinitrc file. man xset. If you're not using X, and your biggest complaint is the beep, then there's something wrong with your brain (but then you already said you use vi ;) HTH, -- Pete Harlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape Configuration
TB == Tim Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TB Has anyone figured out a way to maintain Netscape prefs for users TB centrally? Barring that, how do you setup the .netscape directory for new TB users so that some prefs are configured (default home page, SMTP/POP TB servers, etc.) I would appreciate hearing any techniques that you may have TB found useful. Check /etc/skel All files there get copied to the users homedirectory, when you create a new user. For existing users, some perl magic will do anything you want. Ciao, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sill question about dependancies
icewm_0.8.16-1.deb doesn't have a dependancy for an xserver, shouldn't it? -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Toshiba and HP's GNU/Linux compatibility
On 17 May, Stefan Baums wrote: Hi all! I'll buy a notebook computer shortly, and one of my prime concerns is that GNU/Linux will not only run on it somehow, but actually use the available hardware features. At the moment, I'm considering the Toshiba Satellite 300 CDT and the HP Omnibook 2000 (+ internal CDROM for its accessory bay). To judge from the Linux on Laptops Page (http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/), Toshiba in general seems to be quite compatible with Linux, and HP far less so (though, or maybe because, it has the more interesting hardware). But the exact models I'm interested in have not been reviewed there. So, is anyone out there running GNU/Linux on one of these machines and can tell me about his experiences? Many thanks in advance, Stefan My guess is that the exact models you're interested in are not reviewed there because someone (like me) sat down to try to write a web page about how to use Linux on one of them, and had a great deal of difficulty doing so. Web pages that say Follow the installation instructions. It works. aren't too helpful. Just as an example, I have an Omnibook 5500CT, and installation instructions consist of: Follow Debian install directions. Install the SVGA X server. Recompile the kernel for APM support and Crystal Sound audio support. Beg, borrow, or steal the XF86Config file (I got mine from David Puryear - thanks again David!). Turn off a couple of daemons that like to hit the disk fairly often. Absolutely nothing that doesn't apply to pretty much any laptop. As a laptop-usage data point, there are 9 people in the department here running Linux on a laptop (at least 7 are using Debian, and it's entirely possible that all 9 do); I think that there are 3 Toshiba's, 3 HP's and 3 other. As far as I know, we all have X, sound and power management support. Buy on features / price / durability / service / whatever else meets your fancy. Just make sure you don't get stuck with one of those evil Neomagic chipsets and you should be fine. In case you do go for the Omnibook, I have a (close to useless) web page up at http://www.math.dartmouth.edu/~sryan/omnibook.html which has the XF86Config file available for download; as the OB 2000 (I think) uses the same graphics chipset as the OB5500, it might work. I know it worked on the OB 5000CTS, which is similar but not exactly the same. If you want any other configuration files, feel free to write and ask for them. Sorry I don't have similar information on the Toshiba, but as you remarked, Toshiba does seem to be quite compatible with Linux. HTH, -- Stephen Ryan Debian GNU/Linux Mathematics graduate student, Dartmouth College -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sill question about dependancies
Last I checked none of the X apps do. A dependancy means a file you need for your app to work -- like a lib or something. Something your app actually calls or uses. If a wm declared a dependancy on Xserver and you had to un-install the Xserver you would be forced to remove your wm too. Steve Lamb wrote: icewm_0.8.16-1.deb doesn't have a dependancy for an xserver, shouldn't it? -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- How can you see, when your mind is not open? How can you think, when your eyes are closed? - Jason Bonham Band, Ordinary Black and White --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some Questions about KDE / Whereis / FVWM
3.) KDE I cant install it ! When I use DBPK than some Libraries are not found, wrong version-nomber (QT !!! , LIBGIF !!) When I try to install qt 1.32 by Hand with RPM than RPM tells me, that he needs /bin/sh , but /bin/sh is there I had the same trouble with the debian packages, then I attempted to install the binaries and that went very smoothly. just unpack and set env variables. good luck. -marlon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't start X ! root
I'm fairly new to X, so this might be an RTFM question. If so, please point me to where I can find an answer. I've just installed Hamm and X on my notebook here and all's working okay; however, I can't `startx' as a regular user. I get a no permission or some such. Everything works perfectly when running as root - however, I'd rather not If you have any ideas, please let me know. Thanks, Kevin Traas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't start X ! root
okay; however, I can't `startx' as a regular user. I get a no permission or some such. Everything works perfectly when running as root - however, I'd rather not No permission for what? I recently ran into this. My /dev/psaux (my ps/2 port) was not chmod'ed 666 so only root could use it. -- --- How can you see, when your mind is not open? How can you think, when your eyes are closed? - Jason Bonham Band, Ordinary Black and White --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ping: Operation not permitted
I've just installed a new box running Debian 2.0 (hamm) and I'm having a slight problem. I can't get it working properly on the network (this is my fourth hamm install and all others are fine...). For some reason, packets are not going out eth0. ifconfig reports interface as normal and expected. ping reports: (to a remote interface) nics# ping 192.168.1.1 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Operation not permitted ping: wrote 192.168.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1 ... route -n reports: Destination Gateway MaskFlags Metric Ref Interface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 1 0 eth0 This looks normal too. I don't have any strange daemons running. It's a pretty basic box/config. No IP Masq, etc. `dmesg' doesn't show any problems. Neither do syslog, messages, etc. Any ideas? Regards, Kevin Traas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sill question about dependancies
SL == Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SL icewm_0.8.16-1.deb doesn't have a dependancy for an xserver, shouldn't SL it? Imagine this case: You use a xserver on a windows system to connect to your ox via xdm. Then you start applications and use a wm, but don't run a xserver on the box. So no dependency. Ciao, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't start X ! root
Kevin, this is probably a feature (only the maintainer and his/her hairdresser know for sure). The X server, because it gets into your hardware, needs root permission. Historically this meant the server executable was setuid root. Naturally this is a security hole so they've probably left setuid off by default now. This works fine generally because the easiest way to run X is through xdm. Since you're new to X I'll explain that xdm (the X Display Manager) basically replaces the text login screen with a nice X login screen. xdm is generally started at boot time also. This way X can be run as root conveniently, you get a nice, pretty login screen, and to top it off xdm will run the server with authentication turned on. All in all it's the way to go. I'd be happy to help you get it configured. Kevin Traas wrote: I'm fairly new to X, so this might be an RTFM question. If so, please point me to where I can find an answer. I've just installed Hamm and X on my notebook here and all's working okay; however, I can't `startx' as a regular user. I get a no permission or some such. Everything works perfectly when running as root - however, I'd rather not If you have any ideas, please let me know. Thanks, Kevin Traas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ping: Operation not permitted
Sounds like more setuid trouble. To send an ICMP packet (ping uses the ICMP ECHO-REQUEST) you need a raw socket. Only root can create a raw socket. For this reason ping must be setuid root. Make sure that it is. Kevin Traas wrote: I've just installed a new box running Debian 2.0 (hamm) and I'm having a slight problem. I can't get it working properly on the network (this is my fourth hamm install and all others are fine...). For some reason, packets are not going out eth0. ifconfig reports interface as normal and expected. ping reports: (to a remote interface) nics# ping 192.168.1.1 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Operation not permitted ping: wrote 192.168.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1 . route -n reports: Destination Gateway MaskFlags Metric Ref Interface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 1 0 eth0 This looks normal too. I don't have any strange daemons running. It's a pretty basic box/config. No IP Masq, etc. `dmesg' doesn't show any problems. Neither do syslog, messages, etc. Any ideas? Regards, Kevin Traas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
