Re: Dispositivos PCI desconocidos placa QDI

1998-05-19 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, May 19, 1998 at 01:13:19PM +0200, Narcis wrote:

 He cambiado la placa base a una QDI TITANIUM 1B (P51430TX) y no me
 reconoce los dispositivos PCI, (el que mas duele es la tarjeta grafica
 ASUS 3DP-V264GT/Plus Ati RageII).

Yo tengo una de esas, pero funcionando con una Millenium (de las viejas).

 Unknown PCI device 8086:7100
 Unknown PCI device 8086:7110
 Unknown PCI device 8086:7111
 Unknown PCI device 8086:7112
 Unknown PCI device 8086:7113
 Unknown PCI device 1002:4754

Son totalmente inocentes esos mensajes. Yo tengo una máquina arrancando con
el 2.1.102 y el 2.0.32. Con el primero me dice todo esto:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 430TX - 82439TX MTXC (rev 01)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 01)
00:09.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5446
00:0a.0 SCSI storage controller: Symbios Logic Inc. (formerly NCR) 53c815 (rev 
04)

con el 2.0.32 me dice que no sabe nada respecto a lo que está instalado. 

 estará controlado ... pero ¿ Como se que parte del sistema tengo que
 actualizar ? ¿ es algún paquete ? ¿ es el nucleo ? ...

A mí en lo personal me suena muy extraño eso de que no importa, pero es la
respuesta normal a esta pregunta: no importa que el kernel no sepa nada de
la tarjeta en el bus PCI, de todas formas se puede utilizar. Yo doy fe de
eso, pues con el 2.0.32 todo funciona bien... si alguien sabe exactamente
para qué sirve que el kernel sepa quién hace y qué es lo que está puesto
allí, una explicación sería bienvenida.


Marcelo


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Re: Dispositivos PCI desconocidos placa QDI

1998-05-19 Thread Ignacio J. Alonso
Narcis decia:
 He cambiado la placa base a una QDI TITANIUM 1B (P51430TX) y no me
 reconoce los dispositivos PCI, (el que mas duele es la tarjeta grafica
 ASUS 3DP-V264GT/Plus Ati RageII).
 
 Unknown PCI device 8086:7100
 Unknown PCI device 8086:7110
 Unknown PCI device 8086:7111
 Unknown PCI device 8086:7112
 Unknown PCI device 8086:7113
 Unknown PCI device 1002:4754
 
Hola,
A mi me pasaba exactamente lo mismo (Intel Atlanta + ATI [EMAIL PROTECTED] AGP) 
y
después de compilar el kernel 2.0.33 sólo me quedan 2 Unknown PCI device
en lugar de 6 :-), en cualquier caso tanto antes como ahora todo me
funcionaba perfectamente :-o
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Re: Default Beep

1998-05-19 Thread Chris


On Mon, 18 May 1998, Pete Harlan wrote:

  There is an app that lets you do this.  I read it in one of the
  Debian packaged howtos.  It is the same program that lets you change
  all kinds of low level stuff.  Like console colors and what not.
  
  Chris wrote:
   
   I just had a weird though - is it possible to change the default beep in
   linux?  You know - the one you get in vi all the time ;)
 
 If you use X, you can put something like
 
   xset b 50 1760 20
 
 in your .xsession or .xinitrc file.  man xset.
 
 If you're not using X, and your biggest complaint is the beep, then
 there's something wrong with your brain (but then you already said you
 use vi ;)
 

I won't get into an argument about vi (except to say it's the best editor
I've ever used ;), but I'm not really worried about the beep - just
wondered if I could change the sucker (although it'll help me tell the
difference between my puter and everyone elses at work!).

Thanks,

C.




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Re: ping: Operation not permitted

1998-05-19 Thread Kevin Traas

I'm doing this as root.  Does that make a difference?

Later,
Kevin

On Mon, 18 May 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

 Sounds like more setuid trouble. To send an ICMP packet (ping uses the ICMP
 ECHO-REQUEST) you need a raw socket. Only root can create a raw socket. For
 this reason ping must be setuid root. Make sure that it is.
 
 Kevin Traas wrote:
 
  I've just installed a new box running Debian 2.0 (hamm) and I'm having a
  slight problem.  I can't get it working properly on the network (this is
  my fourth hamm install and all others are fine...).
 
  For some reason, packets are not going out eth0.
 
  ifconfig reports interface as normal and expected.
 
  ping reports: (to a remote interface)
 
  nics# ping 192.168.1.1
  PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes
  ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
  ping: wrote 192.168.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1
  .
 
  route -n reports:
 
  Destination Gateway MaskFlags   Metric  Ref Interface
  192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U   0   0   eth0
  127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U   0   0   lo
  0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG  1   0   eth0
 
  This looks normal too.
 
  I don't have any strange daemons running.  It's a pretty basic
  box/config.  No IP Masq, etc.   `dmesg' doesn't show any problems.
  Neither do syslog, messages, etc.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  Regards,
  Kevin Traas
 
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Re: Default Beep

1998-05-19 Thread Lindsay Allen

On Mon, 18 May 1998, Chris wrote:

 
 
 
 
 On Sun, 17 May 1998, Shaleh wrote:
 
  There is an app that lets you do this.  I read it in one of the Debian 
  packaged
  howtos.  It is the same program that lets you change all kinds of low level
  stuff.  Like console colors and what not.  
  
 
 
 Any ideas what the app was?
 
 C.

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   I just had a weird though - is it possible to change the default beep in
   linux?  You know - the one you get in vi all the time ;)
   
   Being able to ty it to a wav would be interesting - but even just changing
   the pitch / length would be good.
   
   Anybody got some ideas?
   
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FIXED - Can't start X ! root

1998-05-19 Thread Kevin Traas

Thanks for the quick reply, Jens!  

Good news, though!  I've just figured out the problem on my own  Turns
out that when I'd configured things, I'd screwed things up in the
/etc/X11/Xservers file.  

I'd made a duplicate of the original, X server line (line 1), changed the
first line and put a hash in front of the second, backup line.  The old
second line ( = Console ) had now been moved down to line 3.

After reading the comments in that file (line 5  6), it turns out that my
solution was to delete the backup line, thus moving line 3 back to line
2.  As soon as I'd done this, everything was fixed

I guess if line 2 doesn't equal Console or Anybody, then it defaults to
RootOnly Which I guess is the safe way to do it

Anyway, thanks for the quick response.

Later,
Kevin

On Mon, 18 May 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

 Kevin, this is probably a feature (only the maintainer and his/her hairdresser
 know for sure). The X server, because it gets into your hardware, needs root
 permission. Historically this meant the server executable was setuid root.
 Naturally this is a security hole so they've probably left setuid off by 
 default
 now. This works fine generally because the easiest way to run X is through 
 xdm.
 Since you're new to X I'll explain that xdm (the X Display Manager) basically
 replaces the text login screen with a nice X login screen. xdm is generally
 started at boot time also. This way X can be run as root conveniently, you 
 get a
 nice, pretty login screen, and to top it off xdm will run the server with
 authentication turned on. All in all it's the way to go. I'd be happy to help 
 you
 get it configured.
 
 Kevin Traas wrote:
 
  I'm fairly new to X, so this might be an RTFM question.   If so, please
  point me to where I can find an answer.
 
  I've just installed Hamm and X on my notebook here and all's working
  okay; however, I can't `startx' as a regular user.  I get a no
  permission or some such.  Everything works perfectly when running as
  root - however, I'd rather not
 
  If you have any ideas, please let me know.
 
  Thanks,
  Kevin Traas
 
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Deselect locks computer -HAMM

1998-05-19 Thread Eddie Seymour
When running dselect in the install-upgrade function, the
installer scans down the software list and when it gets to:
Skipping deselected package hello
Skipping deselected package ical
it hangs up and refuses to doanything or let you break out of the
program. This fault is repeatable every time. Takes a hard reset to
get out. Any pointers to locate fault greatly appreciated.

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Re: ping: Operation not permitted

1998-05-19 Thread Curtis' test dude
Is your ethernet 0's IP 192.168.1.1?  If so, you have a default gateway of
yourself... I don't thing that will work?

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On Mon, 18 May 1998, Kevin Traas wrote:

 
 I've just installed a new box running Debian 2.0 (hamm) and I'm having a
 slight problem.  I can't get it working properly on the network (this is
 my fourth hamm install and all others are fine...).
 
 For some reason, packets are not going out eth0.  
 
 ifconfig reports interface as normal and expected.
 
 ping reports: (to a remote interface)
 
 nics# ping 192.168.1.1
 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes
 ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
 ping: wrote 192.168.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1
 
 
 route -n reports:
 
 Destination   Gateway MaskFlags   Metric  Ref Interface
 192.168.1.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U   0   0   eth0
 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U   0   0   lo
 0.0.0.0   192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG  1   0   eth0
 
 This looks normal too.
 
 I don't have any strange daemons running.  It's a pretty basic
 box/config.  No IP Masq, etc.   `dmesg' doesn't show any problems.
 Neither do syslog, messages, etc.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Regards,
 Kevin Traas
 
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help apache

1998-05-19 Thread VB Student
Newusers Question:

When I type apache at the prompt I get:

The_Lair:/# bind: Address already in use
httpd: could not bind to port 80

Ideally, I would like to offer a login prompt then a password prompt to
a person dialing in on a modem.

Thanks


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Re: Reply-to (was: dselect oddities)

1998-05-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

I think you are just using bad MUA's. My mail user agent can
 distinguish between closed lists *where all correspondents are
 expected to be members, and open lists, where a respondent need not
 be on the list itself; and allow me to explicitly set how I want to
 respond. 

Tromping on user setting to shield mail user agents is a bad
 idea.

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ksh core dumps

1998-05-19 Thread Francois Gouget

Hi,

I'm using ksh to run some scripts that generate java code. INormally I 
would run these scripts on a Solaris (thus the ksh) but it's so much 
faster on my Linux box... :-)
Anyway, today I got one script which is crashing ksh !!!

~/javaSDK/generate sdk SQLViewEntity
SQLViewEntity...
Memory fault (core dumped)

Now I don't publish this script here because I can't (it's 
copyrighted), because when on it's own this script does not crash ksh 
but it does when invoked by the other scripts, and because I could not 
isolate the cause of the crash. It involves a for loop with an empty 
list of parameters, accessing ${12}. Well, maybe I could send the 
scripts to someone interested in debugging this though.
But basically it seems to execute some code inside a loop where it 
should not go since there is nothing to iterate on (for i in ; do ; 
done). I say that because by changing what's inside the loop I get it 
not to crash anymore. Now I cannot pinpoint what I have to remove. T  
here are many unrelated things I can remove that fix that (but my 
script no longer does what it's supposed to).
So I downloaded the source code, compiled it, and run my script with 
the compiled code and... it does not crash ! So there is nothing I can 
debug unfortunately. Now the ksh I get (after stripping) is different 
from what I have installed on my machine, although they are both from 
the same package version (maybe the compiler is slightly different).
I feel the ksh in the distribution should be fixed. But how ?

I can send the core file to anyone who asks, all gdb tells me is:
Core was generated by `ksh ./450s.MIRXxx.ulinks.java'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0  0x400516c3 in ?? ()

A simple recompilation probably is not enough. I believe the core dump 
is caused by writing or reading past the end of some array/string so 
the bug might seem to go away with a recompilation but would come back.


I have:
- a hamm installation
- ii  pdksh   5.2.13-3   A public domain version of the 
Korn shell
- pdksh_5.2.13.orig.tar.gz - the source code
- pdksh_5.2.13-3.diff.gz   - the debian patches

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Re: Introductory security texts - ssh, tcpd, tripwire?

1998-05-19 Thread David S. Jackson
On Sat, 2 May 1998, David Welton wrote:

 Hi, I'm looking for a basic document describing how to take some basic
 (but important) steps towards securing your computer.  Something that
 describes to the new user how to use things like tcpd, ssh, tripwire,
 and other things to keep their system secure.  Something that is not
 comprehensive, but that would take the person through some of the more
 important things that can make the system reasonably secure, at least
 from attackers who are not determined.

Kevin Scrye wrote the Linux Security HOWTO.  You can find it on
sunsite/LDP.

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X11 libs not found

1998-05-19 Thread Jeff Shilt
I've run into this a few times - Some programs, more often than
not non-Debian stuff, can't find libraries in /usr/X11/lib.  For example,
I installed teTeX from binaries I already had and couldn't run xdvi. Now I
compiled some Xforms demos with FPK-pascal and they can't find libX11 or
libforms although I checked and they're all definitely there.
Running ldd on these programs shows that only libs in /usr/X11/lib
are the ones not found, all other libs seem to be fine.

Thanks - 
Jeffrey Shilt


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the boot disk's kernel

1998-05-19 Thread Wakko Warner
I have noticed that the boot disk for debian contains support for fat32
drives, yet 2.0.33 does not have this support.  What has been done in the
kernel to support fat32?


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Re: the boot disk's kernel

1998-05-19 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 18 May 1998 22:04:55 -0400, Wakko Warner wrote:

I have noticed that the boot disk for debian contains support for fat32
drives, yet 2.0.33 does not have this support.  What has been done in the
kernel to support fat32?

Had the fat32 patch applied to it.  Threw me off because the
FAT/FAT32/VFAT options are now hidden under Native Language Support.


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Re: help apache

1998-05-19 Thread David Z. Maze

VB Student [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
VS Newusers Question:
VS When I type apache at the prompt I get:
VS 
VS The_Lair:/# bind: Address already in use
VS httpd: could not bind to port 80

You're probably already running an HTTP daemon (web server).  Look at
/etc/init.d/apache to see how the Debian apache package starts and
stops the daemon.  Normally, apache gets started as soon as you
successfully install the package.

VS Ideally, I would like to offer a login prompt then a password prompt to
VS a person dialing in on a modem.

Look at the mgetty package.

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Re: ping: Operation not permitted

1998-05-19 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
It sure does. What's the output of '/sbin/ifconfig eth0'?

Kevin Traas wrote:

 I'm doing this as root.  Does that make a difference?

 Later,
 Kevin

 On Mon, 18 May 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

  Sounds like more setuid trouble. To send an ICMP packet (ping uses the ICMP
  ECHO-REQUEST) you need a raw socket. Only root can create a raw socket. 
  For
  this reason ping must be setuid root. Make sure that it is.
 
  Kevin Traas wrote:
 
   I've just installed a new box running Debian 2.0 (hamm) and I'm having a
   slight problem.  I can't get it working properly on the network (this is
   my fourth hamm install and all others are fine...).
  
   For some reason, packets are not going out eth0.
  
   ifconfig reports interface as normal and expected.
  
   ping reports: (to a remote interface)
  
   nics# ping 192.168.1.1
   PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes
   ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
   ping: wrote 192.168.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1
   .
  
   route -n reports:
  
   Destination Gateway MaskFlags   Metric  Ref Interface
   192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U   0   0   eth0
   127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U   0   0   lo
   0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG  1   0   eth0
  
   This looks normal too.
  
   I don't have any strange daemons running.  It's a pretty basic
   box/config.  No IP Masq, etc.   `dmesg' doesn't show any problems.
   Neither do syslog, messages, etc.
  
   Any ideas?
  
   Regards,
   Kevin Traas
  
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Re: ping: Operation not permitted

1998-05-19 Thread Dave Wreski
  I've just installed a new box running Debian 2.0 (hamm) and I'm having a
  slight problem.  I can't get it working properly on the network (this is
  my fourth hamm install and all others are fine...).

  nics# ping 192.168.1.1
  PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes
  ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
  ping: wrote 192.168.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1

Make sure you don't accidentally have firewall rules preventing ping's.

Dave


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Re: ping: Operation not permitted

1998-05-19 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Tue, 19 May 1998, Dave Wreski wrote:

   I've just installed a new box running Debian 2.0 (hamm) and I'm having a
   slight problem.  I can't get it working properly on the network (this is
   my fourth hamm install and all others are fine...).
 
   nics# ping 192.168.1.1
   PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes
   ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
   ping: wrote 192.168.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1
 
 Make sure you don't accidentally have firewall rules preventing ping's.

Ping is probably not setuid - it needs to be in order to open the raw
socket.

Jason


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Re: Reply-to and what the standards have to say about it.

1998-05-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

I scanned the following RFC's; and gleaned (in strict
 chronological order), what they say about the reply-to field. The
 standards scanned were: 822 987 1026 1123 1137 1138 1148 1327 1495
 1838 2157 2156 


In all of these, Reply-to is explicitly said to be set by the
 originator or the author of the message. There is an example that
 says the originator may put the mailing list address there if they
 wish to. But they may not. And it was never ``designed to be used for
 mailing lists'', as someone has claimed here.

I use a MUA, as I said before, that correctly allows *ME* to
 be in control, and I may reply solely to the list on any list I so
 choose.

I hope this clarifies things.

manoj

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Note:  The Reply-To field is added  by  the  originator  and
   serves  to  direct  replies,  whereas the Return-Path
   field is used to identify a path back to  the  origina-
   tor.

 4.4.  ORIGINATOR FIELDS

  The standard allows only a subset of the combinations possi-
 ble  with the From, Sender, Reply-To, Resent-From, Resent-Sender,
 and Resent-Reply-To fields.  The limitation is intentional.
 4.4.3.  REPLY-TO / RESENT-REPLY-TO

This field provides a general  mechanism  for  indicating  any
mailbox(es)  to which responses are to be sent.  Three typical
uses for this feature can  be  distinguished.   In  the  first
case,  the  author(s) may not have regular machine-based mail-
boxes and therefore wish(es) to indicate an alternate  machine
address.   In  the  second case, an author may wish additional
persons to be made aware of, or responsible for,  replies.   A
somewhat  different  use  may be of some help to text message
teleconferencing groups equipped with automatic  distribution
services:   include the address of that service in the Reply-
To field of all messages  submitted  to  the  teleconference;
then  participants  can  reply  to conference submissions to
guarantee the correct distribution of any submission of  their
own.

Note:  The Return-Path field is added by the mail  transport
   service,  at the time of final deliver.  It is intended
   to identify a path back to the orginator  of  the  mes-
   sage.   The  Reply-To  field  is added by the message
   originator and is intended to direct replies.

 4.4.4.  AUTOMATIC USE OF FROM / SENDER / REPLY-TO

For systems which automatically  generate  address  lists  for
replies to messages, the following recommendations are made:

o   The Sender field mailbox should be sent  notices  of
any  problems in transport or delivery of the original
messages.  If there is no  Sender  field,  then  the
From field mailbox should be used.

o   The  Sender  field  mailbox  should  NEVER  be  used
automatically, in a recipient's reply message.

o   If the Reply-To field exists, then the reply  should
go to the addresses indicated in that field and not to
the address(es) indicated in the From field.


 August 13, 1982  - 22 -  RFC #822
 Standard for ARPA Internet Text Messages


o   If there is a From field, but no  Reply-To  field,
the  reply should be sent to the address(es) indicated
in the From field.

Sometimes, a recipient may actually wish to  communicate  with
the  person  that  initiated  the  message  transfer.  In such
cases, it is reasonable to use the Sender address.

This recommendation is intended  only  for  automated  use  of
originator-fields  and is not intended to suggest that replies
may not also be sent to other recipients of messages.   It  is
up  to  the  respective  mail-handling programs to decide what
additional facilities will be provided.

 APPENDIX

 A.2.4.  Committee activity, with one author

 George is a member of a committee.  He wishes to have any
replies to his message go to all committee members.

From: George Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: The Committee: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];

Note  that  if  George  had  not  included  himself   in   the


 August 13, 1982  - 37 -  RFC #822
^L

 
 Standard for ARPA Internet Text Messages


enumeration  

Re: Few Questions

1998-05-19 Thread Carlos Horny
At 16:18 17/05/1998 -0500, Pete Poff wrote:
1. How do you tell how much disk space you have left?

2. Does anyone know how to use the gdb to tell what caused a program to
crash?


1. Just type `df' at the command prompt.

2. If the program is one you created, compile it with the -g option and
then run `gdb program'. Then type `br main' and `r'. You can then step thru
it with `n' and `s'.

If you don't have the sources, you can strace it. Maybe that is not very
useful, but at least you will know what was the last system call the
program did prior to crash.



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Mail problems

1998-05-19 Thread Mike Patterson

I've started getting this error when trying to send mail, and I can't
recieve mail:

What now? send
post: problem initializing server; [BHST] no servers available
send: message not delivered to anyone   


I'm guessing that ithappened while I was updating packages, but I can't
for the life of me figure out what happened where.

I'm running 1.3, updating frequently to stable bits on ftp.debian.org

--Mike


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Debian 1.1 archive still around?

1998-05-19 Thread R. Chris Ross
I have an old 386 with 4 Megs of ram and it is probably easiest to
install the old 1.1 distribution then upgrade it but I don't know of an
archive of it around.  Can anyone help.  ( the old 1.1 easily installs in
4 Megs of RAM)

Thanks,

Chris



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Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..

1998-05-19 Thread The Thought Assassin
On Mon, 11 May 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 On Mon, 11 May 1998, The Thought Assassin wrote:
 : On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 :  I've got a Sun Netra I5, with serial console only.  The current Debian
 :  boot disks don't like the serial console, so I used RedHat's instead.
 : Boot floppies are very customizable.
 The problem is with init on the boot disk, not the kernel.

Can't you doctor the boot disk to use the serial port instead of tty1?
Are the sparc bootdisks that different from all the others?

-Greg


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Re: printing

1998-05-19 Thread John C. Ellingboe
Hi,

I went ahead and installed magicfilter and it got the printer going.  I
kinda figured that if I got things working in text mode first I might
have less problems later but it turned out just the opposite.

Thanks all,

John


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Re: Toshiba and HP's GNU/Linux compatibility

1998-05-19 Thread Nico De Ranter
 On 17 May, Stefan Baums wrote:
  Hi all!
  
  I'll buy a notebook computer shortly, and one of my prime concerns is
  that GNU/Linux will not only run on it somehow, but actually use the
  available hardware features. At the moment, I'm considering the
  Toshiba Satellite 300 CDT and the HP Omnibook 2000 (+ internal CDROM
  for its accessory bay). To judge from the Linux on Laptops Page
  (http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/), Toshiba in
  general seems to be quite compatible with Linux, and HP far less so
  (though, or maybe because, it has the more interesting hardware). But
  the exact models I'm interested in have not been reviewed there.
  
  So, is anyone out there running GNU/Linux on one of these machines and
  can tell me about his experiences?
  
  Many thanks in advance,
  Stefan
 

We have Debian running on a number of Toshiba portables:
Satellite pro 410CDT/420CDT/440CDT Tecra 530CDT/730XCDT

They all work great (although I don't know whether anybody
tried the soundcard (what's the use for it anyway :-) )

Nico

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Re: Sill question about dependancies

1998-05-19 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 icewm_0.8.16-1.deb doesn't have a dependancy for an xserver, shouldn't
 it?

I think you can run it remotely over an internet connection, which means
that the xserver can be on a different machine.

Eric

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Re: ping: Operation not permitted

1998-05-19 Thread Juergen Nickelsen
At 15:15 18.05.98 -0700, Kevin Traas wrote:

[ping: Operation not permitted]
I'm doing this as root.  Does that make a difference?

Your ping program is not by accident setuid to some other ID than root? I
had that with some other program just yesterday. Made me tear my hair out
-- and I haven't too much left to begin with.

Greetings, Juergen.

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Re: Deselect locks computer -HAMM

1998-05-19 Thread Joost Kooij
On Tue, 19 May 1998, Eddie Seymour wrote:

 When running dselect in the install-upgrade function, the
 installer scans down the software list and when it gets to:
 Skipping deselected package hello
 Skipping deselected package ical
 it hangs up and refuses to doanything or let you break out of the
 program. This fault is repeatable every time. Takes a hard reset to
 get out. Any pointers to locate fault greatly appreciated.

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URGENT: problem of dependencies

1998-05-19 Thread julien ORTEGA
i want to install a many machines with a debian 1.3 distrib, kernel
2.0.33 and my own selection of packages.

my problem is that a packages named crisofts (some programs we have
made) must be installed after apache. 

crisoft is in the same section than apache and the same priority. why
crisofts install himself before apache ?

my distrib must be finished very quickly. Could you answer soon please.
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IPX and Sound support from rescue disk

1998-05-19 Thread M.C. Vernon
Dear all,

I'm thinking of installing hamm on another machine, and I would
like to know - can I configure sound and IPX support during the initial
install, or do I have to recompile later?

Yours,

Matthew

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Problems with irqtune...

1998-05-19 Thread Ignacio Más Ivars
Hi all:

I've been following the list for a while now and I am really impressed
by the degree of cooperation everyone has here. Well, at last I've
decided to write you as I have a problem I haven't been able to solve
alone, though I am not a newbie in Linux, or at least not too much  :-)


I have a problem with irqtune. I use Debain 1.3.1 almost upgraded to r7
and when I try to execute irqtune it complains about insmod not being
able to load module '/usr/lib/hwtools/irq_tune.o'. I have tried to make
the insmod manually and then it complains about not being able to find
the kernel version the module was compiled for... The module is in its
correct place, and I have made a depmod over it and also a depmod -a...
My kernel version is 2.0.33 from the debian package and I have made same
changes to the kernel and installed a custom one... is that the reason,
perhaps? I have made the changes totally by hand ( I mean using 'make
menuconfig', 'make dep', 'make clean', 'make zlilo'...) and then I have
installed the modules I have compiled with 'make modules' and 'make
modules_install' and everything else works smoothly... Well, I have no
idea about how to fix it, and why it happens... so any idea would be
greatly apreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: How to print A0 documents on A4 printer ?

1998-05-19 Thread Ionut Borcoman at musa
Hi,

The program is COOL, COOL and COOL. It is doing exactly what it says and
it is doing that job well. So, I highly recommend this program to those
that need to make an A0 poster from a A4 document, but have only an A4
printer. Just don't forget: the program multiplies the dimension of the
postscript file with the number of pages it needs to compose the final
document (this is also stated in the man page of the program). 

Concluding: very nice program.

Ionutz

Ionut Borcoman at musa wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for the http address. From the README and the documentation, it
 looks like it is just what I was needed. I will test it and if it does
 what it claims, than it surely deserves to be packed as a .deb package,
 if the author allows this.
 
 Ionutz


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Unidentified subject!

1998-05-19 Thread Kenneth . Scharf
I have installed debian 1.3.1 r6 on my computer and (following the
directions from att worldnet for using linux with their ISP service)
attempted to get
my modem to dial out.  I compiled support into the kernel for both slp and
ppp.  During the boot phase the messages which scroll past the screen (and
get dumped to the /var/log files) contain several lines for PPP so I assume
that the correct kernel got installed in LILO.  I created a shell script in
/usr/sbin called ppp-on
which contains a line

pppd connect 'chat   options supplied ...

but running this script gives the error mesages kernel does not support
PPP.  Any ideas?

I am now writing this in the office, my debian machine is at home.  I will
get my kernel options file, the exact ppp-on script, kernel log messages,
etc  if more info is needed here.

BTW   ATT worldnet seems to encourage the use of Linux to access the web,
and they mention using with a local network to share an account with
several home computers (And tell you how to do it too!)



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How to convert Microsoft mail to Netscape mail ?

1998-05-19 Thread Ionut Borcoman at musa
Hi,

As I try to move all my files from Win95 to Linux, I would like also to
move my e-mails from the MS Outlook to Netscape Mail. (At the time I
started to use Win95, Outlook from MS Office looked OK, but now I have a
different opinion.) Outlook can import messages from Netscape, but
Netscape doesn't have such a filter. 

Does anybody know a program, filter, method, etc. to change mail from MS
Outlook (from Office 98) or Outlook (from IE4) to Netscape ?

TIA,

Ionutz


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Re: Problems with irqtune...

1998-05-19 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 IMI == Ignacio Más Ivars [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

IMI I have a problem with irqtune. I use Debain 1.3.1 almost upgraded to r7
IMI and when I try to execute irqtune it complains about insmod not being
IMI able to load module '/usr/lib/hwtools/irq_tune.o'. I have tried to make

IIRC the irqtune package in bo is broken for some configurations.

- get a new version from the irqtune homepage (sorry, don't have a URL)

or

- compile your kernel without module versions (or such; it is the 3rd or 
4th option to choose from in xconfig) 

The first option will work for sure, but maybe you want to try the second
one first.

Ciao,
Martin


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Debian as mail server and firewall

1998-05-19 Thread Thomas J. Malloy
 Hi,
A friend of mine runs a small (16 machine) ms windows based 
network. It is a mix of nt and win95.  He just had a T1 installed an now 
wants to setup a mailserver.  He has been having some trouble setting up 
microsoft exchange, so he asked me if I thought LINUX could do the job, and
if I could set it up.
I pretty sure Linux can do the job. I not quite so sure about me, 
but I figured with a little help from the list maybe.
If the mail server goes well he also wants me to setup the box as
a firewall.  I also suspect that they will want some kind of web server
eventually. 

Anyway the mail will be read by netscape on the windows machines.  The
users know nothing about unix.  Basicly, he is going to give the machine.
I have to set it up making it simple and invisible to the users. They 
really can't need to know anything other than their normal microsoft stuff

I have only installed Debian a single user machine.  I do not have 
networking experience. I figured this would be a good learning experience
Any advice on how to do this is very much appreciated.  By the way His 
boss is sortof leaning on him so he needs me to get this up and running 
by Friday.

I figure the probably need smail and samba to do this.  Are the special 
kernel issues to consider when I build the system. Anyway How hard is this 
to do and can anyone help me. 

Thank you 
By the way I am not being paid to do this



  


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xterm disappears after 'xterm -e login username'

1998-05-19 Thread Stefan Gödel
Kingsley G. Morse Jr. writes:
  For what it's worth, I've noticed two other, possibly related bugs:
 
  1.) $ su username
 
  After entering username's password, it says:
 
  shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access 
  parent directories
  job-working-directory: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot 
  access parent directories

There's a possible explanation for this: if you change the uid without
changing the current directory, it may happen that you don't have read
permission on the current directory anymore. So getcwd() will fail,
because it tries to read the inode of ./ and ../! In this case you
should do `su - username' to immediately change the cwd to
username's home directory.

Ciao,

Stefan

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Re: How to convert Microsoft mail to Netscape mail ?

1998-05-19 Thread Daniel ANDRE
Ionut Borcoman at musa wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 As I try to move all my files from Win95 to Linux, I would like also to
 move my e-mails from the MS Outlook to Netscape Mail. (At the time I
 started to use Win95, Outlook from MS Office looked OK, but now I have a
 different opinion.) Outlook can import messages from Netscape, but
 Netscape doesn't have such a filter.
There is a technical note on netscape home page (don't have the exact
url on hand)

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Folders in pine

1998-05-19 Thread Ana Graca Silva

Hello!
I really don't know how to configure pine to select mails based on the
subject of the messages and to redirect them to different folders.
Can someone help me? 

I'm using smail, debian 1.3.1



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Install Questions

1998-05-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello there,

I just setup my linux system last night and finished the generic
install.  I have a few questions on things that didn't work as I
expected.  I hope this is the right place to ask.


Ok, my system is a pent 166 w/32MB RAM and two hard drives I found
laying around (1.6GB, 2.0GB).

I created a root partition of 60MB,
/usr of 1000MB
/var 360MB
/home 1915MB

I hope this is about correct.

Anyways, My two questions / problems are:

#1 I was not able to install my CD drive.  I have a Wearnes 8X CD drive
(IDE connection and a cheap sound card.)  I found one selection on the
driver disk for Wearnes and some other drives, but it failed on
installation.  I did not type in any parameters because I didn't know
what it wanted.

#2 I tried to use the FTP option in dselect and it comes up with the
following error message:

Net::FTP: Bad peer address at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 405
FTP ERROR

I was able to connect to ftp.debian.org via ftp from the shell.  Any
idea what is wrong with this?  Ideally, I would like to get this working
using the ftp option.  If I can't, what is the proper method of loading
and installing packages.

Thanks,

Doug Thistlethwaite


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Install Questionj

1998-05-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
 I tried to send this about 5 minutes ago and my system locked up...
If it made it, sorry for the duplication ***


Hello there,

I just setup my linux system last night and finished the generic
install.  I have a few questions on things that didn't work as I
expected.  I hope this is the right place to ask.


Ok, my system is a pent 166 w/32MB RAM and two hard drives I found
laying around (1.6GB, 2.0GB).

I created a root partition of 60MB,
/usr of 1000MB
/var 360MB
/home 1915MB

I hope this is about correct.

Anyways, My two questions / problems are:

#1 I was not able to install my CD drive.  I have a Wearnes 8X CD drive
(IDE connection and a cheap sound card.)  I found one selection on the
driver disk for Wearnes and some other drives, but it failed on
installation.  I did not type in any parameters because I didn't know
what it wanted.

#2 I tried to use the FTP option in dselect and it comes up with the
following error message:

Net::FTP: Bad peer address at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 405
FTP ERROR

I was able to connect to ftp.debian.org via ftp from the shell.  Any
idea what is wrong with this?  Ideally, I would like to get this working

using the ftp option.  If I can't, what is the proper method of loading
and installing packages.

Thanks,

Doug Thistlethwaite




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Re: [off topic] Mail with no destination?

1998-05-19 Thread Bill Leach
But Art, what I am talking about is a message with _NO_ headers
even so much as hinting at the _destination_ for the message.

Fetchmail, errored out (rightfully so as far as I am concerned)
because is was presented with a message that had no destination!
I say 'rightfully so' since it is pretty obvious that fetchmail
knows that exim has no way to determine what to do with the
message.

Actually, I think that fetchmail errored out because there was no 
valid from:, sender, reply to:, etc. headers.  I am assuming here
that fetchmail actually was 'not concerned' that there was no
addressee of any sort but instead was concerned that there was
no way to 'bounce' this particular message so it just plain
refused to accept it (effectively blocking my ability to retrieve
mail from the ISP).

I have not yet received any (meaningful) response from my ISP but
I really do want to know how a message that has no destination 
headers of any sort could possibly have ended up in my mail 
account!

On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 01:54:59PM -0500, Art Lemasters wrote:
 
 Bill said:
  I am assuming that there must still be enough 'broken' mail
  servers out there that it is still possible to move mail that
  is not RFC compliant but I am totally mystified as to how a
  message that has no destination can be forwarded by any mail
  server!?
  
  Has anyone else seen anything like this (ie:  No destination
  header at all)?
 
  I received a spam ad that bragged about the same thing
 you saw, but there _was_ a source IP address.  It would be
 fun to have a script to automate the process of tracing,
 WAIS-ing and bouncing such mail. 
 
  ...remember the time someone on the list sent us a
 mail that was *to our domain root and from our domain root*
 (back around Feb or Mar when we were tangling with smail
 From headers)?  Now that was a class act! ;-)
 
 Art
 
  
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Re: Folders in pine

1998-05-19 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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On Tue, 19 May 1998, Ana Graca Silva wrote:

 I really don't know how to configure pine to select mails based on the
 subject of the messages and to redirect them to different folders.
 Can someone help me? 
 

Pine does not do this by itself.  The docs state that Pine will support
this, by allowing you to define multiple folders for incoming mail, but it
won't do the filtering for you.  You need to use something like procmail,
which is available in .deb format from ftp.debian.org.  Procmail is very
easy to set up.  For example, here's a sample of my .procmailrc, which
sends all mail from the Debian mailing list to a special folder:

:0:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
./mail/archive/debianuser

:0:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
./mail/archive/debianuser

This procmail recipe grabs all messages with the To:  or Cc:  header
being debian-user@lists.debian.org, and places them in
./mail/archive/debianuser.  Pine has been setup so that it treats this
file as an incoming mail folder (in addition to the default INBOX).
Procmail is powerful, easy to configure, and well documented.  When you
install it, you'll get the procmail man pages, and other manpages called
procmailex, which are examples of procmail recipes.

Good luck.

noah

  
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Newbie installation help on Toshiba 105cs

1998-05-19 Thread Philip Restuccia
Hello, all.

This is my first post, as I've just now joined this list.  Please
forgive any
blatant displays of ignorance on my part for the time being! :-)

I am trying to install Debian 1.3.1 on my Toshiba Satellite 105cs laptop
(Pentium 75, 24MB RAM, 504MB eide hd, Win95).  However, to make things
interesting,
I'd actually like to install it on a Syquest SyJet 1.5GB cartridge in my
SyJet
that I have hanging off an Ataptec APA-1460A PCMCIA SCSI adapter, on
which I also
have a 16x Teac CD-ROM drive.  What I *don't* have are any real-mode
card and socket
services drivers.

Is there any way that I can do this?  Or will I have to install it on
the hd first,
and from there perhaps create an installation on the SyJet cartridge?  I
*really*
would prefer not to have to dump everything off the hd, as I don't have
a tape drive
and have many applications on the hd that I would need to save (I've
been updating
and installing stuff on this laptop for almost 2 years now).

Any help and/or insight would be *greatly* appreciated.  Thanks in
advance!

Philip Restuccia
Senior Principal Software Engineer
Periphonics Corporation
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Re: the boot disk's kernel

1998-05-19 Thread Ed Cogburn
Steve Lamb wrote:
 
 On Mon, 18 May 1998 22:04:55 -0400, Wakko Warner wrote:
 
 I have noticed that the boot disk for debian contains support for fat32
 drives, yet 2.0.33 does not have this support.  What has been done in the
 kernel to support fat32?
 
 Had the fat32 patch applied to it.  Threw me off because the
 FAT/FAT32/VFAT options are now hidden under Native Language Support.
 

The kernel-source-2.0.33-xxx.deb package in bo or bo-unstable (can't
remember which) has the FAT32 support already in it.  Just run menuconfig to set
things up, and compile.


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Re: Folders in pine

1998-05-19 Thread dpk
 :0:
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ./mail/archive/debianuser
 
 :0:
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ./mail/archive/debianuser
 
Or be anal and conserve minute space on your harddrive:

:0
* ^(To|Cc)[EMAIL PROTECTED]
./mail/archive/debianuser


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Re: Folders in pine

1998-05-19 Thread Stephen Carpenter
Ana Graca Silva wrote:

 Hello!

Hello!

 I really don't know how to configure pine to select mails based on the
 subject of the messages and to redirect them to different folders.
 Can someone help me?

There is a really good reason that you don't know how to do that..its 
becausepine
is a mail reader and doesn't do that :)
(well ok it might do that but there are better ways)
procmail is one of those better ways...
you will want to write a .procmailrc for processin gmails...
this is a file with a number of recipies for delivering your mail and is very
very
powerfull.
for example...(I don't redirect by subject but you can)
a recipe I use is :
:0
* ^X-Mailing-List: debian-devel
path/to/the/mailbox/you/want/it/stored/in
it has many options...check the man pages for procmail and procmailrc
(you may also need to ass a line like |procmail to you .forward to get it to
work)
-Steve

 I'm using smail, debian 1.3.1

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Re: How to convert Microsoft mail to Netscape mail ?

1998-05-19 Thread Stephen Carpenter
Daniel ANDRE wrote:

 Ionut Borcoman at musa wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  As I try to move all my files from Win95 to Linux, I would like also to
  move my e-mails from the MS Outlook to Netscape Mail. (At the time I
  started to use Win95, Outlook from MS Office looked OK, but now I have a
  different opinion.) Outlook can import messages from Netscape, but
  Netscape doesn't have such a filter.
 There is a technical note on netscape home page (don't have the exact
 url on hand)

I went through something like this a while ago...I was moving from exchange
to netscape mail...I found a program that will do the conversion but...costs 
much
$$
for a licenceand I only needed it once so I wasn't about to pay for it!
I would bet that outlook uses the same mailbox format as exchange so...
get MSIM (Microsoft Internet Mail)
it has the ability to import exchange mailboxes and convert them to its format
(which is a real hack up of unix standard mailbox format...all the messages and
headers are stored as ascii text but the line before each message that is 
usually

From had weird charicters...8 bitters)
anyway..there is then a program on the net somewhere (search for it)
that converts from MSIM to Eudora...which uses the same mailbox format as
Nutscrape
(which is standard maildir format...used by pine etc)
-Steve
(and all that worked without paying the $700 or so to get the other program...
then my hard drive crashed loosing all of that anywaysigh)

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The latest stable stuff

1998-05-19 Thread M.C. Vernon
Dear all,
I'm currently running hamm, but I might be getting a new machine
soon :), and I'd like to have the latest stable packages on it:

so instead of   hamm/hamm/binary-i386
hamm/contrib/binary-i386 etc., where are the most recent
stable packages, please?

Thanks,

Matthew

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Re: Install Questions

1998-05-19 Thread Ed Cogburn
Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
 
 Hello there,
 
 I just setup my linux system last night and finished the generic
 install.  I have a few questions on things that didn't work as I
 expected.  I hope this is the right place to ask.
 
 Ok, my system is a pent 166 w/32MB RAM and two hard drives I found
 laying around (1.6GB, 2.0GB).
 
 I created a root partition of 60MB,
 /usr of 1000MB
 /var 360MB
 /home 1915MB
 
 I hope this is about correct.
 
 Anyways, My two questions / problems are:
 
 #1 I was not able to install my CD drive.  I have a Wearnes 8X CD drive
 (IDE connection and a cheap sound card.)  I found one selection on the
 driver disk for Wearnes and some other drives, but it failed on
 installation.  I did not type in any parameters because I didn't know
 what it wanted.
 
 #2 I tried to use the FTP option in dselect and it comes up with the
 following error message:
 
 Net::FTP: Bad peer address at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 405
 FTP ERROR
 
 I was able to connect to ftp.debian.org via ftp from the shell.  Any
 idea what is wrong with this?  Ideally, I would like to get this working
 using the ftp option.  If I can't, what is the proper method of loading
 and installing packages.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Doug Thistlethwaite
 

Can't help you with #2 (never seen that error before, and I do use FTP), but
about #1:  if your CD-ROM drive is connected to your computer via IDE (is this
what you meant by IDE connection), then its almost certainly an IDE/ATAPI
drive.  This means you don't need a special CD-ROM driver.  By default,
IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM drives are supported in the initial kernels you start with. 
The problem is which device is it, since you have 2 hard drives (your hard
drives are IDE too right?).  If your first hard drive is /dev/hda and the second
is /dev/hdb then try accessing your CD-ROM as /dev/hdc, but at this point I'm
just guessing.

Ed


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emacs20 core dumps

1998-05-19 Thread Deniz Dogan
Hi,

emacs20 Version: 20.2-6 core dumps when I try to start gnus and
sometimes browsing the info docs.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~$ll core 
-rw---   1 denizdeniz 2838528 May 19 15:41 core

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~$gdb --core core
GNU gdb 4.17
[snip]
This GDB was configured as i586-pc-linux-gnu.
Core was generated by `emacs'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0  0x401e83b1 in ?? ()
(gdb)

Using `emacs -f gnus` start gnus without any problems.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.
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Spam abuse?

1998-05-19 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
Hi all,

Since a few hours I got this kind of messages on the console:

May 19 17:30:15 pebbles in.smtpd[23842]: connect from 
146.west-palm-beach-01.fl.dial-access.att.net

In /var/adm/smail there are many items like

05/19/1998 17:30:30: [m0yboLS-0005sdC] Delivered VIA:c.mx.aol.com TO:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts TRANSPORT:smtp
05/19/1998 17:30:30: [m0yboLS-0005sdC] Delivered VIA:c.mx.aol.com TO:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts TRANSPORT:smtp

It looks as though someone is sending spam to a lot of AOL addresses via
my PC.  Switching off the smtp services with inetd.conf shut it off.
Should I try and send email about this to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (this seems to
be a valid DNS entry, I can run a traceroute to it)?

I am running a bo system with smail 3.2-3.  Is there a way to disallow
this kind of activity?

Any comments or pointers appreciated,

Eric Meijer

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Re: URGENT: problem of dependencies

1998-05-19 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 i want to install a many machines with a debian 1.3 distrib, kernel
 2.0.33 and my own selection of packages.
 
 my problem is that a packages named crisofts (some programs we have
 made) must be installed after apache. 
 
 crisoft is in the same section than apache and the same priority. why
 crisofts install himself before apache ?

It is a known problem of dselect that it does not always install
packages in the right order.  This will probably be fixed in its
successor, `apt'.  The solution for dselect is to rerun the install and
configure steps a few times until everything is installed and
configured.  It is not pretty, but it works most of the time.  If there
are dependency problems that remain, don't hesitate to post again to
the list.

HTH,
Eric

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Low memory install help

1998-05-19 Thread The . Sage
I need help trying to install Debian on a system with low memory.  I
have made the Rescue disk and the Low memory root disk.  Setup goes fine
until after Copying root filesystem from floppy to /dev/hda10 
This copies from drive A: and completes with done.  Should it be
copying from drive B: if that is where the Low memory root disk is?
After it says it is done, it next says the following:

VFS: Can't find a minix or minix V2 filesystem on dev 03:0a.
Mount /dev/hda10 (type minix) on /mnt: wrong filesystem type, or bad
 superblock on /dev/hda10
sbin/swapsetup: cannot create /mnt/etc/swappartition: directory
 nonexistent
sbin/swapsetup started OK

Then I return to the menu and choose to REBOOT.

It then says to wait for the boot: prompt and enter lowmemboot root=.
Am I supposed to enter something after the =?  I tried everything.  Not
entering anything gives me the VFS: Cannot open root device 00:00.  If
I try /dev/hda10 it comes back with Mounted root (msdos filesystem)
readonly.  Unable to open an initial console.

Any help is appreciated...


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Serial Mouse Install

1998-05-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Here is another installation question I didn't figure out during the
install.  I have a microsoft compatible serial mouse I would like to use
on my new linux system.  During the inital install, I did not see any
selections for serial mice.  I saw several options for ps/2, bus, and
other types of mice.  What do I need to do to install this mouse?

Thank you,

Doug Thistlethwaite


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Re: [off topic] Mail with no destination?

1998-05-19 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 BL == Bill Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

BL I am assuming that there must still be enough 'broken' mail
BL servers out there that it is still possible to move mail that
BL is not RFC compliant but I am totally mystified as to how a
BL message that has no destination can be forwarded by any mail
BL server!?

This routing information has nothing to do with a To: or Cc: or similar
header. Try telnet localhost smtp and enter help.

A sample mailsession could be:

220-haitech.martin.home Smail-3.2.0.101 (#2 1998-Mar-18) ready at Sun, 17 May 
1998 18:21:21 +0200 (CEST)
220 ESMTP supported
HELO localhost
250 haitech.martin.home Hello localhost (localhost from address [127.0.0.1]).
MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Sender Okay
RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' martinb@(nodomain) Recipient Okay.
DATA
354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself
Hi,
no Headers here. Usualy, the first lines are the To and From etc. headers
(seperated by a blank line from the messagebody) you see in your mail 
programm.
.
250 Mail accepted
QUIT
221 haitech.martin.home closing connection

Well, almost no header. Smail will insert some headers, but maybe your ISP's
daemon doesn't. Here is what smail inserts:

From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sun May 17 18:29:49 1998
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from localhost (really [127.0.0.1]) by netcologne.de
via in.smtpd with smtp
id [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Debian Smail3.2.0.101)
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 17 May 1998 18:29:37 +0200 (CEST) 
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 18:29:37 +0200 (CEST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You don't even have these? Post the headers you got and do a 
telnet mailhost.isp.com smtp to get the 220 welcome-message. This should 
show the brand and version of your isp's mailserver.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: Serial Mouse Install

1998-05-19 Thread M.C. Vernon
Doug,

 Here is another installation question I didn't figure out during the
 install.  I have a microsoft compatible serial mouse I would like to use
 on my new linux system.  During the inital install, I did not see any
 selections for serial mice.  I saw several options for ps/2, bus, and
 other types of mice.  What do I need to do to install this mouse?

run XF86Setup. Select microsoft (and the usual other compatibles). If it
doesn't find /dev/mouse, then try /dev/ttyS0

HTH,

Matthew

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Re: URGENT: problem of dependencies

1998-05-19 Thread Shaleh
Declare that crisoft depends on apache.  Then it should set up apache first. 
There is also a pre-depends.  This would not allow crisoft to be installed
unless apache is installed.  Use pre-depends as a last resort.


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Folders and Pine - Thanks

1998-05-19 Thread Ana Silva

I've already work it out, it was very simple!
thanks for your fast help!



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How to have GCC via nfs?

1998-05-19 Thread Daniel Mashao
After struggling with NIS and AMD I have finally given up. Now does
anybody know how can I set NFS to give gcc to a remote machine? Basically
I have a machine that loads /usr/bin from another machine, but I have
problem setting gcc and other programs to search for their init and .h
files from /sys/usr/include/... Can Debian be used in such a set up? The
problem seem to be that when I upgrade or install a program locally dpkg
wnat to wriote something in /etc/ or /usr/.. which means they must be
local.

_any help_


/---/
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Electrical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED]
University of Cape Town http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel 
Rondebosch, 7700, S. Africa(w) 27+21+650 2816   (h) 27+21+705 1233
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Re: xterm disappears after 'xterm -e login username'

1998-05-19 Thread Deniz Dogan
Hi,

Stefan Gödel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kingsley G. Morse Jr. writes:
   For what it's worth, I've noticed two other, possibly related bugs:
   
   1.) $ su username
   
   After entering username's password, it says:
   
   shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access p=
 arent directories
   job-working-directory: could not get current directory: getcwd: cann=
 ot access parent directories
 
 There's a possible explanation for this: if you change the uid without
 changing the current directory, it may happen that you don't have read
 permission on the current directory anymore. So getcwd() will fail,
 because it tries to read the inode of ./ and ../! In this case you
 should do `su - username' to immediately change the cwd to
 username's home directory.

leafnode`s cron job causes same error on my hamm box:

/etc/cron.daily/leafnode:
shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent 
directories

Which package could cause this?
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How do I backup and restore

1998-05-19 Thread Stephen Beer
I have installed linux on my laptop (I have used one partition only + a
swap partition). I would like to backup the partition and restore it on
another laptop (of the same model). How can I restore a root partition.
I am use to ufsrestore on Solaris.

Stephen Beer
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[Fwd: How do I backup and restore]

1998-05-19 Thread Stephen Beer

---BeginMessage---
I have installed linux on my laptop (I have used one partition only + a
swap partition). I would like to backup the partition and restore it on
another laptop (of the same model). How can I restore a root partition.
I am use to ufsrestore on Solaris.

Stephen Beer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

---End Message---


Re: Default Beep

1998-05-19 Thread Pete Harlan
 difference between my puter and everyone elses at work!).

In the interests of helping /even/ those who like to use vi in text-
only modes ;), a look at drivers/char/console.c and an strace of
setterm -blank 20 shows the following:

Set the pitch of the beep:

E[10;1000]

where 'E' is an escape, the brackets are regular square brackets, the
'10' is the command to set the beep, and '1000' is the hz of the beep
tone.

(E.g.:

% perl -e 'print \033[10;1000];'
% (now console has a different beep)
)

If you wish to change the duration of the beep, the command is 11
instead of 10, and its argument is the duration in milliseconds.

Happy beeping,

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some scripts cause ksh to core dump

1998-05-19 Thread Francois Gouget

Hi,

I'm using ksh to run some scripts that generate java code. INormally I 
would run these scripts on a Solaris (thus the ksh) but it's so much 
faster on my Linux box... :-)
Anyway, today I got one script which is crashing ksh !!!

~/javaSDK/generate sdk SQLViewEntity
SQLViewEntity...
Memory fault (core dumped)

Now I don't publish this script here because I can't (it's 
copyrighted), because when on it's own this script does not crash ksh, 
it does when invoked by the other scripts, and because I could not 
isolate the cause of the crash. It involves a for loop with an empty 
list of parameters, accessing ${12}. Well, maybe I could send the 
scripts to someone interested in debugging this though.
But basically it seems to execute some code inside a loop where it 
should not go since there is nothing to iterate on (for i in ; do ; 
done). I say that because by changing what's inside the loop I get it 
not to crash anymore. Now I cannot pinpoint what I have to remove. T  
here are many unrelated things I can remove that fix that (but my 
script no longer does what it's supposed to).
So I downloaded the source code, compiled it, and run my script with 
the compiled code and... it does not crash ! So there is nothing I can 
debug unfortunately. Now the ksh I get (after stripping) is different 
from what I have installed on my machine, although they are both from 
the same package version (maybe the compiler is slightly different).
I feel the ksh in the distribution should be fixed. But how ?

I can send the core file to anyone who asks, all gdb tells me is:
Core was generated by `ksh ./450s.MIRXxx.ulinks.java'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0  0x400516c3 in ?? ()

A simple recompilation probably is not enough. I believe the core dump 
is caused by writing or reading past the end of some array/string so 
the bug might seem to go away with a recompilation but would come back.


I have:
- a recent hamm installation (less than 1 week old)
- ii  pdksh   5.2.13-3   A public domain version of the 
Korn shell
- pdksh_5.2.13.orig.tar.gz - the source code
- pdksh_5.2.13-3.diff.gz   - the debian patches

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Re: How do I backup and restore

1998-05-19 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Stephen,

You are probably best off with tar, primarily because it is available on the
rescue disk. I'm going to assume that you'll be backup up to tape over the
network--this will work just fine. First, to make the backup you should boot 
your
laptop into single-user mode. If you use LILO, at the boot prompt type in
Linux single where Linux is the tag for Linux. Once you get to the shell
(you'll be asked for the root password) you'll need to execute the network
startup (and DHCP, if you use that) because single user mode by default doesn't
start up the network. If you don't use DHCP this should be as easy as typing
/etc/init.d/network start. Now you're ready to back up. You'll need to have
'rexec' permission on the machine which has the tape backup. Just type

tar -cf remote-machine:remote-tape-device /

If the remote machine where a Solaris box called sunbox this would probably look
like:

tar -cf sunbox:/dev/rmt/0m /

Let this finish and now you've got your backup.

On the new laptop use the rescue disk and proceed through the installation up
until you've partitioned the disk and initialized the root partition. At this
point you need to get the network going. You've got two choices: 1) continue the
install process as usual to get through the network setup, needlessly copying 
the
kernel and devices modules or 2) be a brave hacker and go straight to the shell
prompt to get things setup by hand. I recommend option 1. Once the network is
configured (and up!) then choose the option way at the bottom of the install
screen for running the shell. I'm not sure where your newly-initialized root
partition will be but you can type 'mount' to print them out. It'll be something
weird like '/target/blahblah'. Now you just need to do

tar --directory /target/blahblah -xpf remote-machine:remove-tape-device

Having completed this step you'll need to complete the install step to make the
Linux bootable from hard disk. This is because the tar extraction will overwrite
the kernel which was initially written on your root partition thereby rendering
the lilo boot info foobar. This too you can do by hand from the shell prompt but
you have to give lilo some weird params to tell it to do a chroot() and to use a
different device for root, etc. etc.

Now you're done! Easy, huh?

Stephen Beer wrote:

 I have installed linux on my laptop (I have used one partition only + a
 swap partition). I would like to backup the partition and restore it on
 another laptop (of the same model). How can I restore a root partition.
 I am use to ufsrestore on Solaris.

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Lincity and SVGAlib not working

1998-05-19 Thread Ian Lynagh

Hi all

I d/led Hamms Lincity, Lincity-svga and the SVGAlib dummy. However,
after typing 5 for mouse (PS2 - I do not have gpm if that makes
a difference) it just stopped. I then tried removing the svgalib dummy
and installing svgalibg1, but this time it stopped at a screen with
green and blue colours. Trying to switch VCs made it go all wierd
and I had to reboot.

I have an Inspiron 3000, Neomagic video card. The packages I downloaded
were:
* lincity_1.09-3.deb
* lincity-svga_1.09-3.deb
* svgalib-dummyg1_1.2.13-2.deb
* svgalibg1_1.2.13-3.2.deb

Can anyone help me get this working please?

Thanks
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Re: Spam abuse?

1998-05-19 Thread John Lines
 Hi all,
 
 Since a few hours I got this kind of messages on the console:
 
 May 19 17:30:15 pebbles in.smtpd[23842]: connect from 
 146.west-palm-beach-01.fl.dial-access.att.net
 
 In /var/adm/smail there are many items like
 
 05/19/1998 17:30:30: [m0yboLS-0005sdC] Delivered VIA:c.mx.aol.com TO:[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts TRANSPORT:smtp
 05/19/1998 17:30:30: [m0yboLS-0005sdC] Delivered VIA:c.mx.aol.com TO:[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts TRANSPORT:smtp
 
 It looks as though someone is sending spam to a lot of AOL addresses via
 my PC.  Switching off the smtp services with inetd.conf shut it off.
 Should I try and send email about this to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this seems to
 be a valid DNS entry, I can run a traceroute to it)?


You should complain to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - this is someone running a 'stealth
mailer' trying to route spam to aol through you. They are connected to
an ATT dialup account, and ATT will pull the plug on their account when
you tell them about it. (Make sure you can tell them the UTC time when
the spammer was operating so they can work out who it was)



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Urgent mail problem

1998-05-19 Thread Mike Patterson

If anyone can give speedy advice, it'd be greatly appreciated. Days without
mail on my linux box are disasterous for many reasons...

Basically, mail doesn't work anymore. If I try sending mail from the debian 
box, I get the folloring error:

What now? send
post: problem initializing server; [BHST] no servers available
send: message not delivered to anyone

People sending mail to the system complain that the mail gets bounced back,
but apparently not immediately, since my email sent there hasn't returned 
yet (nor did the account on the box recieve it). 

/var/log/ doesn't give any useful information. The following files are 
empty, as well as their zipped predecessors:

mail.err
mail.info
mail.log
mail.warn



This problem appears to have started when using dselect to update from 
ftp.debian.org. I'm running 1.3 on this system.

Any help would be appreciated.


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Lexmark 5700 printer

1998-05-19 Thread Ken Lauffenburger
Hello,

Anyone have any success with a Lexmark 5700 ink-jet printer?

They claim you can operate it using an HP500c driver.

I have tried using magicfilter from lprng.  Here is my
/etc/printcap file:

#
lp|lj|llj|Lexmark 5700:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/llj:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/dj500c-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
#

Thanks for any ideas or suggestions you may have.

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Re: Urgent mail problem

1998-05-19 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Which mail program do you use, smail? What's your mail server's name on the
internet? Do you get mail directly from the internet?

Mike Patterson wrote:

 If anyone can give speedy advice, it'd be greatly appreciated. Days without
 mail on my linux box are disasterous for many reasons...

 Basically, mail doesn't work anymore. If I try sending mail from the debian
 box, I get the folloring error:

 What now? send
 post: problem initializing server; [BHST] no servers available
 send: message not delivered to anyone

 People sending mail to the system complain that the mail gets bounced back,
 but apparently not immediately, since my email sent there hasn't returned
 yet (nor did the account on the box recieve it).

 /var/log/ doesn't give any useful information. The following files are
 empty, as well as their zipped predecessors:

 mail.err
 mail.info
 mail.log
 mail.warn

 

 This problem appears to have started when using dselect to update from
 ftp.debian.org. I'm running 1.3 on this system.

 Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Netscape Configuration

1998-05-19 Thread Bjoern Fischer
On Mon, May 18, 1998 at 11:34:14AM -0500, Tim Buller wrote:
 Has anyone figured out a way to maintain Netscape prefs for users
 centrally? Barring that, how do you setup the .netscape directory for new
 users so that some prefs are configured (default home page, SMTP/POP
 servers, etc.) I would appreciate hearing any techniques that you may have
 found useful.
 
   Tim

We exactly had the same problem. The best solution was a wrapper which
sets up ~/.netscape with a default config when running for the first
time. The wrapper keeps the user's ~/.netscape sane; i.e. setting disk
cache to 0 (we have a proxy), etc.
Formerly a shell script it is currently being rewritten in perl.

  Bjørn


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Re: How to convert Microsoft mail to Netscape mail ?

1998-05-19 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Tue, May 19, 1998 at 11:10:15AM -0400, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
 From had weird charicters...8 bitters)
 anyway..there is then a program on the net somewhere (search for it)
 that converts from MSIM to Eudora...which uses the same mailbox format as
 Nutscrape
 (which is standard maildir format...used by pine etc)

Umm, you mean mbox I am guessing.  Maildir is nice but it's not even in pine
by default.  It's in Debian's pine, but that's because there's a patch for
it.  =

mbox == one file with several messages
maildir == several files with only one message each

Maildir's layout have a directory with 3 subdirs, new, cur, and tmp. 
Everything is done in those dirs.


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Re: Folders in pine

1998-05-19 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Tue, May 19, 1998 at 10:41:16AM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
 Pine does not do this by itself.  The docs state that Pine will support
 this, by allowing you to define multiple folders for incoming mail, but it
 won't do the filtering for you.  You need to use something like procmail,
 which is available in .deb format from ftp.debian.org.  Procmail is very
 easy to set up.  For example, here's a sample of my .procmailrc, which
 sends all mail from the Debian mailing list to a special folder:
 
 :0:
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ./mail/archive/debianuser
 
 :0:
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ./mail/archive/debianuser
 
 This procmail recipe grabs all messages with the To:  or Cc:  header
 being debian-user@lists.debian.org, and places them in
 ./mail/archive/debianuser.  Pine has been setup so that it treats this
 file as an incoming mail folder (in addition to the default INBOX).
 Procmail is powerful, easy to configure, and well documented.  When you
 install it, you'll get the procmail man pages, and other manpages called
 procmailex, which are examples of procmail recipes.

#  Sorts the mailing lists

:

:0:
* ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian-user/

:0:
* ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian-mentors/

:0:
* ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian-devel/

:0:
* ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian-announce/

   :

Note the /'s are because I use maildirs, this requires procmail 3.10.7-5 or
later.  It's in hamm.


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Re: How to convert Microsoft mail to Netscape mail ?

1998-05-19 Thread Stephen Carpenter
Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:

 On Tue, May 19, 1998 at 11:10:15AM -0400, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
  From had weird charicters...8 bitters)
  anyway..there is then a program on the net somewhere (search for it)
  that converts from MSIM to Eudora...which uses the same mailbox format as
  Nutscrape
  (which is standard maildir format...used by pine etc)

 Umm, you mean mbox I am guessing.  Maildir is nice but it's not even in pine
 by default.  It's in Debian's pine, but that's because there's a patch for
 it.  =

yes I do...oops

 mbox == one file with several messages
 maildir == several files with only one message each

 Maildir's layout have a directory with 3 subdirs, new, cur, and tmp.
 Everything is done in those dirs.

hmm interesting...I have always used mbox format...I think I looked at maildir
once...
I have a much more simple setup :)
I just have ~/mail for all of my incomming mail mailboxes...and
~/mail/read/ for all my mboxes of mail that has been read already and
I let mutt sort out what mail has been read and what hasn't.
maybe it is time to revise my system a bit...
BTW its sortt of another topic (ok completly) but...in mutt
what is the definition of = or + in a mailbox name?
I had the darndest time setting it up to tell it which files are incomming and
which read mail should be moved to...I got it finnaly but I couldnever
find a good definition of the differecne and what they actually
mean
this all reminds me...I was working on a project involving mail...I must
resserect that.,..
-Steve

   

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[Off Topic] Mail formats (Was: How to convert Microsoft mail to Netscape mail ?)

1998-05-19 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Tue, May 19, 1998 at 03:40:37PM -0400, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
 hmm interesting...I have always used mbox format...I think I looked at maildir
 once...

I like maildir because I occasionally lost mail with mbox.

 I have a much more simple setup :)
 I just have ~/mail for all of my incomming mail mailboxes...and
 ~/mail/read/ for all my mboxes of mail that has been read already and
 I let mutt sort out what mail has been read and what hasn't.
 maybe it is time to revise my system a bit...


I have ~/.mail, in that is everything including INBOX/, my standard place
for new mail (I don't like it as ~/Maildir/) and all my lists.  I don't have
read messages moved out of the boxes because pine didn't and I learned to
handle mass amounts of mail in pine long ago..


 BTW its sortt of another topic (ok completly) but...in mutt
 what is the definition of = or + in a mailbox name?
 I had the darndest time setting it up to tell it which files are incomming and
 which read mail should be moved to...I got it finnaly but I couldnever
 find a good definition of the differecne and what they actually
 mean
 this all reminds me...I was working on a project involving mail...I must
 resserect that.,..

+ and = both mean folders dir, in my case:

## Note pine uses by default ~/mail--I changed this to something hidden
## on my system so it wouldn't show up in ls.
set folder=~/.mail  # where I keep my mailboxes
## this is NORMALLY /var/spool/mail/user--I use a maildir and all, so it
## can't be that.  Since I don't want it showing in ~, I put it in with my
## other mail in ~/.mail and called it INBOX to look like pine kinda..
set spoolfile='+INBOX'  # where my new mail is located


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Help with first-time install

1998-05-19 Thread Edward Burns

Hi. I'm brand new to linux and am running into a problem with my first install.
After choosing Install the Base System from the menu, the screen reads,

The base system is being extracted from
/instmnt/stable/disks-i386/current/base1_1.3tgz ...

and it just hangs there. I've tried three times and it hangs in the same place
and does not progress no matter how long I wait.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Ed


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Linux AGP and VIA chipsets

1998-05-19 Thread Larry Panzer
I am going to begin building my own system for Linux when school gets out
(June 5).  After looking in the Linux FAQ's and install instructions I have
some questions about the (Pentium) mainboard and other components that I
wish to buy.  

1. Does anyone else have a motherboard baised on a VIA Apollo 3 AGP
chipset with 1Mb cache RAM?  Or do I need a Intel 430TX type for
absolute reliability/compatability? I'm looking at Biostar, DFI, and FIC
brands.
2. Does X-Windows have support for the newer AGP video cards, specificly
   the Trident 9750 AGP video card?
3. Will generic ethernet cards ($25 PCI 10Mbit/sec) run well enough to
 allow me to hook-up my Linux computer to a Win-95 (my parents) so Ican
have access to the internet through it?  This would be initiallyso I
can install Linux directly from the internet and later forinternet access.

Thanks for your help.

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redirecting display of program over telnet (with DISPLAY)

1998-05-19 Thread Liran Zvibel
Hello!

I remember reading somewhere that I can change the remote DISPLAY variable
so I can see the applications on my local screen.
My machine name is debian (I gave it a lot of thought...) I tried changing
DISPLAY to debian:0 but it didn't work.

Please help, or tell me what FM to R.

TIA,

Liran Zvibel.

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Re: redirecting display of program over telnet (with DISPLAY)

1998-05-19 Thread Shaleh
Step one: telnet to box where you want data to come FROM
Step two: type `export DISPLAY=machine:display` where machine is
your machine name and display is your display number -- debian:0
Step three: run an X app.
Step four: enjoy the fun of running apps across the network (-:

All this ASSUMES that you have given the other machine the permission to
talk to your X.  This is not ON by default.  So Step One becomes: type
`xhost +`.  This lets other machines talk to X.

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Re: redirecting display of program over telnet (with DISPLAY)

1998-05-19 Thread aqy6633
 I remember reading somewhere that I can change the remote DISPLAY variable
 so I can see the applications on my local screen.
 My machine name is debian (I gave it a lot of thought...) I tried changing
 DISPLAY to debian:0 but it didn't work.

Remote host should be able to find your host by the name. So, in most cases 
it should be a fully-qualified domain name or (in case you don't have that - 
say because you are using PPP to connect to the internet) just a valid current
IP address of your debian box. So, set DISPLAY to something like
203.234.22.33:0.0 and it should work.

Good luck.

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Motif - SWiM 2.1 Installation.

1998-05-19 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi, 

Our university kindly bought us Motif for Linux (SWim 2.1) from Linux System 
Labs (http://www.lsl.com).  On the CD they send there is an installation for 
redhat, but nothing for debian.  Generally they recommend to copy a big 
directory tree to /usr.  As it's quite big I am a little bit concerned not to 
mess things up :(

Any recommendations how to set it up right for Debian 2.0?

Thanks,
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Re: redirecting display of program over telnet (with DISPLAY)

1998-05-19 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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On Tue, 19 May 1998, Shaleh wrote:

 All this ASSUMES that you have given the other machine the permission to
 talk to your X.  This is not ON by default.  So Step One becomes: type
 `xhost +`.  This lets other machines talk to X.
 

CAREFUL!  xhost + lets ALL other machines access your display.  This is
not normally a good idea.  It's better to do a
xhost specific.remote.host

This will allow only the host that you specify to access your display.
Quite a bit safer.  It's still rather dangerous, as it doesn't see what
account on the remote host is accessing your display.  It just lets all
users on that specific host display X apps on your screen.  xauth is
better, but I don't know how to use it.

noah
  
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  http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html
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Re: redirecting display of program over telnet (with DISPLAY)

1998-05-19 Thread Liran Zvibel
On Tue, 19 May 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Remote host should be able to find your host by the name. So, in most cases 
 it should be a fully-qualified domain name or (in case you don't have that - 
 say because you are using PPP to connect to the internet) just a valid current
 IP address of your debian box. So, set DISPLAY to something like
 203.234.22.33:0.0 and it should work.
Well I did it, and after trying xhost + , the response was:
Xlib:  connection to 132.67.97.136:0.0 refused by server
Xlib:  Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xhost:  unable to open display 132.67.97.136:0.0
(BTW: debian:0 didn't work)
What should I do?
Thanks, 

Liran Zvibel.

 
 Good luck.
 
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Re: redirecting display of program over telnet (with DISPLAY)

1998-05-19 Thread Shaleh
In case I was not clear -- xhost MUST be run on the machine with the X
server, not the machine where the X app is run.


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Re: redirecting display of program over telnet (with DISPLAY)

1998-05-19 Thread aqy6633
  Remote host should be able to find your host by the name. So, in most cases 
  it should be a fully-qualified domain name or (in case you don't have that 
  - 
  say because you are using PPP to connect to the internet) just a valid 
  current
  IP address of your debian box. So, set DISPLAY to something like
  203.234.22.33:0.0 and it should work.
 Well I did it, and after trying xhost + , the response was:
 Xlib:  connection to 132.67.97.136:0.0 refused by server
 Xlib:  Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 xhost:  unable to open display 132.67.97.136:0.0
 (BTW: debian:0 didn't work)
 What should I do?

You should have done xhost + on your local box (debian).

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Re: redirecting display of program over telnet (with DISPLAY)

1998-05-19 Thread Liran Zvibel
On Tue, 19 May 1998, Shaleh wrote:

 In case I was not clear -- xhost MUST be run on the machine with the X
 server, not the machine where the X app is run.
 

It works!!! Thanks alot!!!
 
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Re: redirecting display of program over telnet (with DISPLAY)

1998-05-19 Thread Shaleh
Glad to help.  Now that it works read xhost's man page and figure out
how to allow only that machine to hit your box.  You can put the command
into your .xinitrc file and every time you start X that machine has
access to you.  Or as was mentioned previously -- look into xauth.  This
gives finer grain control of access.  However if it is just two boxes
you own or trust -- no big deal.

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Re: Linux AGP and VIA chipsets

1998-05-19 Thread joost


On Tue, 19 May 1998, Larry Panzer wrote:

 1. Does anyone else have a motherboard baised on a VIA Apollo 3 AGP
 chipset with 1Mb cache RAM?  Or do I need a Intel 430TX type for
 absolute reliability/compatability? I'm looking at Biostar, DFI, and FIC
 brands.

All chipsets are supported I think. Some older buggy chipsets are even
bugfixed in the linux kernel.

 2. Does X-Windows have support for the newer AGP video cards, specificly
the Trident 9750 AGP video card?

Why don't you check for yourself on www.xfree86.org? If you want to use
the newer xfree86 releases, you'll have to install packages from the hamm
section of the debian distribution. Currently, it is frozen and I don't
expect that it will be the stable release by early june yet. But that
shouldn't keep you from installing hamm, it is very stable in practice. 

 3. Will generic ethernet cards ($25 PCI 10Mbit/sec) run well enough to
  allow me to hook-up my Linux computer to a Win-95 (my parents) so Ican
 have access to the internet through it?  This would be initiallyso I
 can install Linux directly from the internet and later forinternet access.

Mine works fine. Yours probably too. 

About the internet access through win95, forget that: win95 can't do
routing and certainly not ip-masquerading (or did you get a subnet of real
ip addresses?) 

Instead, put the modem in linux and make it the server on the network.
Maybe it is a bit hard to set up if you are new to linux/ip-networking, in
that case you could consider experimenting with a cheap modem, not
disrupting your parents internet access.

With some knowledge and effort, you can make your linux pc do the
following (and much more):

- internet router, firewall and masquerading host
- web server, for your own pages and as a caching proxy server for your
  home network (speeds up internet browsing)
- mail server, for sending (smtp) and retrieving (pop3) mail and for
  reading/keeping mailboxes on the server (imap/pop3)
- windows print, file and logon server (make it act like an nt server for
  windows95)
- nameserver
- usenet news server
- fax server

Have fun,


Joost
 



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