Actualizacion por FTP

1998-05-28 Thread Deibit

Amos a ver.. cada semana me actualizo Debian por ftp a lo ultimo que  haya 
 en hamm (ultimamente a lo ultimo que hay en hamm + slink) y lo hago usando el 
 dselect.

Lo que pasa es que el dselect me hace los gets del ftp archivo  a  archivo 
 y como que mi conexion es lenta (ppp) tendria mucha mas eficiencia  si  algun 
 administrador de paquetes soportase hacer varias  conexiones  simultaneas  al 
 servidor ftp (por  ejemplo  bajarse  4  ficheros  a  la  vez)  como  hace  un 
 navegador web por  ejemplo  que  habre  varias  conexiones  simultaneas  para 
 bajarse una pagina (no se si me explico)

   Bien, mi pregunta es.. eso existe?

Y mi repregunta es.. seria facil modificar el perl del dpkg-ftp  para  que 
 en vez de usar el ftp usase por ejemplo el lftp y me permitiese hacer  varias 
 peticiones a la vez?

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Re: problemas con tar

1998-05-28 Thread Juan Carlos
Roman Ferreiras wrote:
 
 he bajado algunos programas .tar.gz   pero tengo el problema de que no
 se como descomprimirlo e instalarlo, he intentado descomprimirlo con
 gunzip , y luego terminarlo con el comando tar , pero este ultimo se
 que da haciendo nada , no es lo mismo que los .tgz  que los instalos
 con la utilidad extract y lo hace bien.
 podria alguien decirme como  usar el comando tar o algun otro con el
 cual poder instar los software que he bajado?
 
  Roman Ferreiaras
 

Tar : es un empaquetador/desempaquetador
Gzip : es un compresor/descompresor

Generalmente primero se empaqueta un conjunto de archivos con tar
(creando un archivo .tar) y luego se comprime este ultimo con gzip
creandose un .tar.gz (al .tar de antes se le añade .gz). Estos ultimos
se pueden llamar tambien .tgz, que es lo mismo que lo anterior.

SAludos :
Juan Carlos


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slink y hamm

1998-05-28 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola a la lista.

Acabo de visitar el directorio slink, y he visto que contiene muchos enlace a 
hamm.
¿Que diferencias hay entre los dos directorios?

Saludos.

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RE: ¿Que os parece el nuevo Debian 2.0?

1998-05-28 Thread juanma

-Mensaje original-
De: Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Juan Carlos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Fecha: miércoles 27 de mayo de 1998 13:30
Asunto: Re: ¿Que os parece el nuevo Debian 2.0?


On Wed, May 27, 1998 at 12:10:17PM +0200, Juan Carlos wrote:
 Bueno, y a nivel de distribucion, ¿se ha pensado en incorporar
 StarOffice a non-free de Debian? Tiendo a pensar que no puede ser por
 algun motivo legal de esos, pero me gustaria qu ealguien me lo
 confirmase ;-)

Te lo confirmo. Las condiciones de distribución del StarOffice prohiben
ponerlo en cualquier otro servidor ftp que no sea el de StarDivision.
Lo que sí podríamos hacer es un instalador, como el del SO3. De hecho hay
gente trabajando en ello, pero será para la 2.1. (Pista: deep frozen
mode)

 De todas maneras, no se yo... demasiado bonito es esto del Linux, y
 ademas, va muy bien, como para ser cierto. Lo que quiero decir es que me
 da miedo que algun dia no muy lejano, Linux comience a ser una artimaña
 comercial mas (por lo menos sera buen producto). De hecho, ya hay muchas
 cosas que son comerciales. Diantre!! , hasta distribuciones enteras son
 comerciales ya.

Pero las partes fundamentales del sistema siguen siendo libres, y muchos
nos dejamos los dedos en el teclado defendiendo que sea así.

Creo que la mejor solución, aunque difícil, y lo digo a vuela`pluma, es
hacer una especie de patente o derechos de autor con respecto a este
proyecto científico, de tal manera que se obliga a no tratar como mercancía
este producto.

El problema es ¿quién se puede considerar autor?, creo que podría ser una
asociación privada sin afan de lucro (una especie de fundación)en la que
englobaría todos los proyectos de sus socios que no serían otros que los
colaboradores de ella aún si estos lo hacen de forma esporádica.

Esta fundación incluso puede recibir ayudas económicas que servirían para
proteger esta propiedad intrelectual o incluso a innovar más todavía.

Ya se que parece ciencia ficción pero hay una cosa que es ahora preocupante
y es que Linux empieza a estar de moda actualmente (de hecho se edita una
revista, han salido artículos en El Mundo y ABC etc. etc. etc.) y empieza a
ser conocido incluso por los legos en informática. Puede ser un buen negocio
empezar a hacer cosas y no dejarlas libres.

¿quién pone el cascabel al gato? ¿y cómo? porque jurídicamente es bastante
difícil.

Saludos. Es la primera vez que os escribo a todos y espero no haber sido un
peñazo.



 Por no hablar de la proxima X11R6.

Pero la próxima Xfree (que es lo que usamos la mayoría de los linuxeros)
seguirá siendo tan libre como siempre.

 ¿Que va a ser de
 nosotros? ¿Podran las grandes compañias manejar el proposito gratuito
 del trabajo en conjunto de un monton de personas que tan solo pretenden
 contribuir al beneficio de todos? No se si es que hoy estoy pesimista o
 que, pero si os soy sincero, tengo miedo de ello :(

Tranquilo. Manejar es una palabra muy fuerte. Podrán aprovecharse de
nuestro esfuerzo, (en cierto modo ya lo hacen todas, ¿no?) pero lo van a
tener difícil para dirigir el trabajo de una comunidad de voluntarios
bastante anárquica. (Y hablo de Linux en general, no sólo de Debian).

 Saludos,
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Re: PVM3

1998-05-28 Thread José Antonio Pozo
Antonio Vieiro Varela wrote:

 On Sun, 27 Apr 1997, Josi Antonio Pozo wrote:

 Hola Antonio y Cia:



 Para empezar yo no tengo instalado el pvm3 que viene (¿viene?) con
 Debian, yo hice la instalación a partir del código fuente, pero  la
 cosa es igual.

Creo que efectivamente en Debian no viene nada de pvm3.

   Nuestra configuración es la siguiente:
   export PVM_DPATH=/usr/local/pvm3/lib/pvmd --- esto te falta
   export PVM_ROOT=/usr/local/pvm3  --- esto lo tienes bien
   export PATH=$PATH:$PVM_ROOT/lib --- el lib _NO_ el include

Ya he puesto la configuracion que me habeis facilitado y continua
saliendome mal.

   Esto del pvmd already running es que saliste mal de la sesión
   anterior, tienes que borrar los ficheros /tmp/pvm*, y salir con
   halt de la consola pvm, en caso contrario no mata el
   demonio pvmd.

Realmente nunca he llegado a entrar en pvm, como para que me diga que el
daemon ya esta funcionando. Al borrar los ficheros /tmp/pvm* e intentar
arrancar el pvm me sale:

 libpvm [pid76]: /tmp/pvmd.0: No such file or directory

 libpvm [pid76]: Console: Can't start pvmd

Si yo inserto en el temporal este archivo a manija entonces me ocurre
todo el problema que os describi la ultima vez

   Posiblemente tengas un problema con la red, ya que el demonio
   no puede crear sockets para realizar las conexiones por la red.

El linux lo tengo instalado en una maquina a parte sin ningun tipo de
red ni configuracion de la misma.

   Definitivamente tienes un problema con la red. JoseAntonio parece
   ser el nombre de una máquina ¿es correcto? Si es así no creo que
   esté en Internet, con lo que supongo que es una red local.
   Si es una red local entonces seguramente tengas problemas con los
   nombres de las máquinas, ¿tienes los nombres en /etc/hosts? ¿Sabes
   qué direcciones IP deben tener las redes locales?

Si, el nombre de mi maquina es JoseAntonio, y esta en el archivo
/etc/HOSTNAME. El otro archivo que me mencionas no lo tengo.

Saludos: Jose Antonio


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Re: PVM3

1998-05-28 Thread Antonio Vieiro Varela
On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Josi Antonio Pozo wrote:
 Antonio Vieiro Varela wrote:
  On Sun, 27 Apr 1997, Josi Antonio Pozo wrote:
[...]
Posiblemente tengas un problema con la red, ya que el demonio
no puede crear sockets para realizar las conexiones por la red.
 
 El linux lo tengo instalado en una maquina a parte sin ningun tipo de
 red ni configuracion de la misma.

  Pues, obviamente, necesitas una red para ejecutar PVM.
  Configura alguna, por ejemplo el dispositivo lo de loopback.
  Luego me cuentas.

  Por cierto, ¿pvmd.0? eso es que estás ejecutando el PVM como root.
  No es interesante ejecutar nada como root, es mejor que crees un
  usuario y trabajes siendo un usuario. Te evitarás muchos problemas
  (potenciales).

  Un saludo,
  Antonio


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Re: Podria hacerse un .deb con libc6 para bo?

1998-05-28 Thread Agustin Martin Domingo
Enrique Zanardi wrote:
 
 
 El método que yo recomiendo para hacer la actualización es usar el apt.
 Te puedes bajar el paquete de
 http://www.debian.org/~jgg/apt_0.0.15-0.1bo_i386.deb
 


¿Va mejor el apt que el script autoup para actualizar de libc5 a libc6?.

Saludos


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Re: Podria hacerse un .deb con libc6 para bo?

1998-05-28 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Agustin Martin Domingo decía:
 Enrique Zanardi wrote:
  
  
  El método que yo recomiendo para hacer la actualización es usar el apt.
  Te puedes bajar el paquete de
  http://www.debian.org/~jgg/apt_0.0.15-0.1bo_i386.deb
  
 
 
 ¿Va mejor el apt que el script autoup para actualizar de libc5 a libc6?.
Que yo sepa no hay una decisión en firme sobre cuál va a ser el método
recomendado pero todo sugiere que será apt. Por lo que sé (aunque no de
primera mano) sí, apt es mejor que autoup.sh

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Re: problemas con tar

1998-05-28 Thread gustavo
Roman Ferreiras wrote:

 he bajado algunos programas .tar.gz   pero tengo el problema de que
 no se como descomprimirlo e instalarlo, he intentado descomprimirlo
 con gunzip , y luego terminarlo con el comando tar , pero este
 ultimo se que da haciendo nada , no es lo mismo que los .tgz  que
 los instalos con la utilidad extract y lo hace bien. podria alguien
 decirme como  usar el comando tar o algun otro con el cual poder
 instar los software que he bajado?

Buenas:

Este tipo de ficheros se suelen desempaquetar con la instrucción:

gzip -dc (fichero a descomprimir) |tar -xvf-

Cualquier cosa que vayas a descomprimir es mejor que lo hagas en un
directorio temporal (por ejemplo /var/tmp) leea las instrucciones, y
si no te indican otra cosa, lo vuelvas a descomprimir en /usr/local),
borra lo que has descomprimido en /var/tmp.

Suerte.

Saludos:
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Bash

1998-05-28 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola a todos.

Hace un mes mas o menos, tuve un percance con bash, después de recompilar con 
egcc, y gracias a la lista, pude recuperar el sistema.

Ayer recompilé bash, tuve la precaución de bajar también los paquetes .deb, y 
de dejar mas de una sesión iniciada.
La compilación la hice con egcc.

Instale libreadlineg2, abrí una sesión y correcto, a continuación instale 
libreadlineg2-dev, y salió con un error en un pre-rm , error de segmentación 
(lo siento no tome nota), desde ese momento, no me dejaba abrir nuevas 
sesiones, me admitía el usuario y el password, e inmediatamente me echaba a 
login. Cambiando a una de las sesiones abiertas, instale el paquete .deb, y se 
soluciono. Lo intente un par de veces, pero lo mismo.

Entonces probé : dpkg --purge libreadlineg2-dev, después instale el paquete 
compilado por mi, y funciono.

¿A que puede ser debido esto?. ¿Puede ser egcc?

Saludos.

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Dead_keys con Xfree 3.3.2

1998-05-28 Thread Ignacio Más Ivars
Hola a todos:

Tengo un ligero problemilla para conseguir que mis dead_keys funcionen.
Acabo de actualizar a hamm con Xfree 3.3.2 y ahoar ya no me funcionan
los acentos y el resto de las dead_keys. En bo habia conseguido que
funcionaran sin problema usando la libreria parcheada de Thomas Quinot,
pero al actualizar Xfree, esta ya no me vale y ahora no consigo que me
funcionen los acentos. Con la extensi´on KBD habilitada veo los acentos,
pero sobre un espacio en blanco, en vez de sobre la letra en cuestion.
Vamos, que de dead_keys, ada, estan perfectamente vivas y ocupan un
caracter. He comprobado con 'xev' que estan definidas como 'dead_acute'
y 'dead_...' pero aun asi, en Netscape o Xelvis, el acento me sale sobre
un espacio en blanco al lado de la letra en cuestion... ¿Hay alguna
solucion para recuperar mis acentos?. En modo texto me funcionan
perfectamente y tambien el las xterm...

Buenno, gracias por vuestra ayuda y por favor, mandadme el mensaje a mi
buzon ademas de a la lista porque no estoy subscrito... (No doy a basto
con tanto volumen de correo en casa... :-)


Gracias por la ayuda..

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Re: slink y hamm

1998-05-28 Thread Santiago Vila
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Angel Vicente Perez:
 Acabo de visitar el directorio slink, y he visto que contiene muchos enlace a 
 hamm. ¿Que diferencias hay entre los dos directorios?

slink es el nuevo unstable, que es a donde van los paquetes nuevos.
A partir de ahora, y hasta que salga Debian 2.0, solamente los paquetes
que corrijan algún error importante irán a hamm (frozen). Los demás van a
slink (unstable).

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Re: APT.

1998-05-28 Thread Juan Carlos
Enrique Zanardi wrote:

 $ LANG=C dselect
 
 para librarte de los warning.
 
Eso era :)

  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/apt/methods/ftp line 21.
  Get http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/main Packages
  Get http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/non-free Packages
  Fetched 831k in 14s (58.2k/s)
  Updating package file cache...
  E: Opening
  /var/state/apt/lists/ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages
  - ifstream::ifstream (2 No such file or directory)
 
  update available list script returned error exit status 100.
  Press RETURN to continue.
 
 Esto es debido al error anterior al intentar crear la lista de
 ftp.debian.org, usando el método ftp.

Elimino el metodo ftp de /etc/apt/sources.list

  3.- Pulso Enter y voy a Select. Aqui, me aparece la pantalla de siempre
  del dselect y no veo nada de libc6 ni nada que se le parezca, por lo que
  pienso que no ha servido de nada lo del APT.
 
 Es que ha fallado la actualización de la lista.
 --
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Nada, esto ya funciona. Ya llego a [3]Select y me aparecen un monton de
paquetes seleccionados con '*' indicados con una 'n' (que supongo que
quiere decir que existe version nueva +/-).
La duda esta ahora en que no se como hacer que se actualicen solo libc6
y ldso por ejemplo (con objeto de actualizarme a libc6, pero no todos
los paquetes que dependan de esta ultima. Supongo que los antiguos
seguiran funcionando con la libc5).
¿Tendre que quitar el asterisco a todo y dejarselo solo a libc6 y ldso?
¿Porque viene marcado por ejemplo el paquete svgalib-dumm si yo nunca lo
he instalado?
¿Porque no aparecen los paquetes de mi CD de bo?

Otra cosa, si en linea de comandos hago un 'apt-get install libc6',
ocurre lo siguiente:

sadacia:/etc/apt# apt-get install libc6
Updating package status cache...done
Checking system integrity...dependency error
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
Sorry, but the following packages are broken - this means they have
unmet
dependencies:
  kdebase: Depends:libgif2 Depends:qt1
  kdelibs: Depends:libgif2 Depends:qt1
  kdeutils: Depends:qt1
  kdenetwork: Depends:libgif2 Depends:qt1
  kdemultimedia: Depends:qt1
  kdegraphics: Depends:libgif2 Depends:qt1
  kdeadmin: Depends:libgif2 Depends:qt1
  kdegames: Depends:qt1
sadacia:/etc/apt#

Y la libc6 no se instala. Ha habido una vez que he conseguido (no me
pregunteis como; porque lo ignoro ;-) que pase de ahi, pero me ha dicho
que queria instalarme un porrazo de paquetes (lo cual, a la velocidad de
transferencia de mi linea, me puede costar un dia conectado) QUE
DEPENDIAN DE LIBC6. La pregunta es :
¿No hay alguna manera con 'apt' de conseguir lo que hace dpkg
--ignore-depends=paquete -i *.deb ?
¿Es esto ultimo alguna barbaridad?

Creo que estoy cerca de la solucion, ¿no? Gracias a todos por vuestra
ayuda y un saludo :
Juan Carlos


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Discos de instalacion hamm

1998-05-28 Thread Roberto Ruiz

Esto esta medio peliagudo:

Había un juego de discos de instalación fechados (según el directorio)
1998-04-11, los cuales en un mirror que realize entre el 10 y el 12 de
mayo funcionaban bien para instalar, y estaban apuntados como current en
la estructura de directorios de disks-i386, pero ya existía un directorio
llamado 1998-04-26, y los discos de instalación de ahí no me funcionaron.

Bueno, ahora, recreando el mirror, me doy cuenta que 1998-04-11 ya no
existe, y que 1998-04-26 es current, le doy que haga el mirror y no baja
nada, de lo cual deduzco que son las mismas imagenes ... ¿como puede ser
esto posible? ¿sabe alguien si las cambiaron?

Ahora bien, el sitio al que entro a bajar archivos es: ftp2.linux.or.jp
(si, desde México a Japón es rapidisimo), y si entro con ftp, el ls me
marca que son de May 11 07:22, y cuando los bajo y los tengo en mi
computadora, me marca que son de May 11 02:58, supongo que ambos
servidores estan reportando la fecha como hora local (de Japón y de
México respectivamente) ... así que son exactamente los mismos archivos.

Bueno, ¿cual es el error que me marcan? Pues que al iniciar la
instalación, seleccionas el teclado, te dice que necesitas particionar,
particionas, y no recuerdo bien, si desde este momento, o al tratar de
activar la particion de swap ... me regresa a la pantalla de bienvenida
inicial (en la que el titulo es Debian GNU Linux 2.0 y frases de
explicación de lo que es).

¿Esta dañada la partición ó tiene sectores malos? no, con los discos de
04-11 se instala bien, además de que se formatea la partición con chequeo
de errores habilitado.

¿Maquinas/discos duros en los que sucede? 

a) IBM PC Server 310, Pentium II 200 Mhz, 32 MB RAM, 2 discos duros SCSI
de 4 GB particionados: 

nahoa# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 527 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda111  130  1044193+   6  DOS 16-bit =32M
/dev/sda2  131  131  13864260   82  Linux swap
/dev/sda3   *  139  139  154   128520   83  Linux native
/dev/sda4  155  155  527  2996122+   5  Extended
/dev/sda5  155  155  205   409626   83  Linux native
/dev/sda6  206  206  221   128488+  83  Linux native
/dev/sda7  222  222  237   128488+  83  Linux native
/dev/sda8  238  238  253   128488+  83  Linux native
/dev/sda9  254  254  286   265041   83  Linux native
/dev/sda10 287  287  417  1052226   83  Linux native
/dev/sda11 418  418  527   883543+   6  DOS 16-bit =32M

Disk /dev/sdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 527 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb111864228+  82  Linux swap
/dev/sdb2   *99  110   819315   83  Linux native
/dev/sdb3  111  111  314  1638630   83  Linux native
/dev/sdb4  315  315  527  1710922+  83  Linux native
nahoa#

Donde sda1 y sda11 son windows 95 osr/2 particionadas a fat16, sda2 es el
swap para hamm, sda3 es /, sda4 contiene a las demás, sda5 es /usr, sda6
es /tmp, sda7 es /var, sda8 es /usr/local, sda9 es /usr/X11R6 y sda10 es
/home (bajo muchas cosas de internet ;) ). Las particiones de sdb son de
debian 1.3.1 como sigue: sdb1 swap de bo, sdb2 es /, sdb3 es /usr y sbd4
es /home.

b) Patito, Pentim MMX 166, 16 MB ram, disco duro IDE de 2.5 GB
particionado (y esto es a la pura memoria porque esta es la maquina de la
casa): 

hda1 = 1.5 GB  windows 95 fat32
hda2 = 32 MB   swap debian hamm
hda3 = ~2 GB   / debian hamm

c) Laptop TI Extensa 560CDT, Pentium 75 Mhz, 8 MB ram, disco duro IDE de
1.3 GB particionado (otra vez de memoria porque no tengo la lap a la
mano):

hda1 = 255MB  dos 6.22 (fat16 obviamente)
hda2 = 32MB   swap debian hamm
hda3 = ~1GB   debian hamm /


Cabe mencionar que en todas las computadoras debian 1.3.1 y debian hamm
con los discos del 04-11 se instalan de maravilla, y que en todas falla el
instalador de 04-26 en el mismo paso de la instalación.

Todas las instalaciones se hacen desde cero, es decir, nunca he intentado
un upgrade de 1.3.1 a hamm.

Como nota adicional queme los archivos a un CD que cree con el mkisofs,
este CD funciona bien si uso los discos de 04-11, pero no si uso los
discos de 04-26, con esto no me refiero a que no lo lea o que no conserve
los atributos de los archivos, sino a que falla en el punto mencionado de
la instalación.

Ah, otra cosa, no he intentado utilizar los discos tecra, ya que en 1.3.1
y hamm 04-11 los discos que uso son los normales.

Opps, ya se me estaba olvidando, en la IBM y en la casa creo 1 disco de
instalación (el boot.img) y lo demás lo leo del CD, en la laptop copio los
archivos del CD al disco duro DOS y booteo la instalación con:

loadlin linux root=/dev/ram initrd=root.bin rw

Bueno, 

Re: Dead_keys con Xfree 3.3.2

1998-05-28 Thread Agustin Martin Domingo
Ignacio Mas Ivars wrote:
 
 Acabo de actualizar a hamm con Xfree 3.3.2 y ahoar ya no me funcionan
 los acentos y el resto de las dead_keys. En bo habia conseguido que
 funcionaran sin problema usando la libreria parcheada de Thomas Quinot,
 pero al actualizar Xfree, esta ya no me vale y ahora no consigo que me
 funcionen los acentos. 

Al instalar hamm, me imagino que te habrá sobreescrito la
/usr/X11/lib/libX11.so, o al actualizar el paquete te habrá
eliminado la anterior. Debes volver a instalar la libX11 parcheada.

Ten cuidado de traerte la versión para libc6. Si estás con hamm la de
libc6 instálala en /usr/X11/lib igual que antes. 

Si no recuerdas las instrucciones puedes pasarte por mi FAQ personal de
X, en

http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/linux/xwin-local-faq.html


Probablemente no necesites nada más, pero a lo mejor te pasa lo
siguiente con algunas aplicaciones.

He leído algo de que a veces es necesario utilizar también la versión de
libX11 para libc5 para algunos programas que requieren la de libc5. Si
es así necesitarás también la versión libc5 que deberás colocar en

/usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/libX11.so

Quizás necesites algo del paquete oldlibs/xlib6-altdev pero de momento
prueba sin ello.

Saludos y cuéntame cómo te fue si tuviste que hacer la segunda parte.

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Porque no se lanza ip-up

1998-05-28 Thread Cosme Perea Cuevas
  Hola,
  
  tengo entendido que cuando se establece la conexión con
  nuestro proveedor de internet, pppd llama a
  /etc/ppp/ip-up. Pero yo he metido un 'echo Conexión
  establecida' y algún otro 'echo', pero no aparece nada y
  sospecho qe no se ejecuta. ¿Como puedo estar seguro ?
  
  ¿ No es en ip-up donde se modifica la ruta para que los
  usuarios puedan acceder (además del root) ?
  
  Utilizo Debian 1.3.1. ¿ Alguien puede decirme si le
  funciona en esta distribución y pasarme algún ip-up
  'instructivo' (porque el mio no tiene más que un 'export
  PATH' que no se para que) ?
  
  Saludos.


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Suck 3.9 y libc6...

1998-05-28 Thread Cosme Perea Cuevas
  Hola (otra vez),
  
  tengo que acualizar Suck porque el que viene con Debian
  1.3.1 no funciona ni a tiros, pero al entrar en la web de
  Debian y buscar en 'unstable' resulta que la versión que
  tienen disponible (3.9.0-1) requiere libc6.
  
  Si no me equivoco Debian 1.3.1 se instala con libc5, y
  también he oido por ahí que instalar las dos librerías
  puede dar problemas.
  
  Podéis orientarme. ¿ Me bajo Suck-libc6 y instalo 'a
  saco', o busco el Suck en *.tar.gz y lo compilo para
  libc5 (si eso se puede hacer...) ?
  
  Ayuda, que las news es lo único que me falta para
  abandonar W$ !!!
  
  Saludos.


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Re: PVM3

1998-05-28 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Mon, Apr 28, 1997 at 01:57:26PM +0200, José Antonio Pozo wrote:
 Antonio Vieiro Varela wrote:
  Para empezar yo no tengo instalado el pvm3 que viene (¿viene?) con
  Debian, yo hice la instalación a partir del código fuente, pero  la
  cosa es igual.
 Creo que efectivamente en Debian no viene nada de pvm3.

Depende de que versión de Debian estemos hablando. En Debian 2.0 viene
el pvm 3.4

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Re: APT.

1998-05-28 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 04:33:40PM +0200, Juan Carlos wrote:
 Nada, esto ya funciona. Ya llego a [3]Select y me aparecen un monton de
 paquetes seleccionados con '*' indicados con una 'n' (que supongo que
 quiere decir que existe version nueva +/-).
 La duda esta ahora en que no se como hacer que se actualicen solo libc6
 y ldso por ejemplo (con objeto de actualizarme a libc6, pero no todos
 los paquetes que dependan de esta ultima. Supongo que los antiguos
 seguiran funcionando con la libc5).
 ¿Tendre que quitar el asterisco a todo y dejarselo solo a libc6 y ldso?

Sí

 ¿Porque viene marcado por ejemplo el paquete svgalib-dumm si yo nunca lo
 he instalado?

Tal vez porque haya algún paquete que dependa de él.

 ¿Porque no aparecen los paquetes de mi CD de bo?

Por que al hacer update te ha eliminado la información sobre dichos
paquetes (suele preguntar si quieres que la elimine, aunque no recuerdo
si con el apt también lo hace).

 Otra cosa, si en linea de comandos hago un 'apt-get install libc6',
 ocurre lo siguiente:
 
 sadacia:/etc/apt# apt-get install libc6
 Updating package status cache...done
 Checking system integrity...dependency error
 You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
 Sorry, but the following packages are broken - this means they have
 unmet
 dependencies:
   kdebase: Depends:libgif2 Depends:qt1
   kdelibs: Depends:libgif2 Depends:qt1
   kdeutils: Depends:qt1
   kdenetwork: Depends:libgif2 Depends:qt1
   kdemultimedia: Depends:qt1
   kdegraphics: Depends:libgif2 Depends:qt1
   kdeadmin: Depends:libgif2 Depends:qt1
   kdegames: Depends:qt1
 sadacia:/etc/apt#

Al ejecutar apt-get primero comprueba el estado actual del sistema. Ha
descubierto que has instalado algunos paquetes (los del KDE) a la
fuerza, es decir, sin instalar las bibliotecas que necesitaban (libgif2
y/o qt1).
 
 Y la libc6 no se instala. Ha habido una vez que he conseguido (no me
 pregunteis como; porque lo ignoro ;-) que pase de ahi, pero me ha dicho
 que queria instalarme un porrazo de paquetes (lo cual, a la velocidad de
 transferencia de mi linea, me puede costar un dia conectado) QUE
 DEPENDIAN DE LIBC6. 

Seguramente tengas todos esos paquetes seleccionados para instalar, y
hayas usado upgrade o dist-upgrade en vez de install.

 La pregunta es :
 ¿No hay alguna manera con 'apt' de conseguir lo que hace dpkg
 --ignore-depends=paquete -i *.deb ?

Prueba con la opción -f, pero lo mejor es eliminar los errores,
simplemente instalando los paquetes libgif2 y qt1 (o eliminando los del
KDE).

 ¿Es esto ultimo alguna barbaridad?

Usualmente sí. ;-) Puede romperse algo si ignoras las dependencias,
ahora, si tú lo pides, el sistema te obedece. :-D
 
 Creo que estoy cerca de la solucion, ¿no? Gracias a todos por vuestra
 ayuda y un saludo :

Ánimo, que ya falta menos.

Saludos,
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Re: Actualizacion por FTP

1998-05-28 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Wed, May 27, 1998 at 11:31:17PM +0200, Deibit wrote:
 
 Amos a ver.. cada semana me actualizo Debian por ftp a lo ultimo
 que  haya en hamm (ultimamente a lo ultimo que hay en hamm + slink) y
 lo hago usando el dselect.
 
 Lo que pasa es que el dselect me hace los gets del ftp archivo  a
 archivo y como que mi conexion es lenta (ppp) tendria mucha mas
 eficiencia  si  algun administrador de paquetes soportase hacer varias
 conexiones  simultaneas  al servidor ftp (por  ejemplo bajarse  4
 ficheros  a  la  vez)  como  hace  un navegador web por ejemplo  que
 habre  varias  conexiones  simultaneas  para bajarse una pagina (no se
 si me explico)
 
Bien, mi pregunta es.. eso existe?

Prueba el apt. (Se nota que me gusta, ¿eh?). :-)
 
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Re: APT.

1998-05-28 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 11:53:43AM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
 On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 06:48:07PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
 
   ¿Tendre que quitar el asterisco a todo y dejarselo solo a libc6 y ldso?
  
  Sí
 
 No Si entendí bien, con quitar el asterisco quería decir marcarlo
 para remover.

¡Auch! Tienes razón. Lamento no haberlo dejado claro. Cuando digo que sí
debes quitar el asterísco me refiero a que debes marcar el paquete como
on hold, pulsando la tecla =. De este modo el paquete se conservará
tal cual, sin actualizarlo ni eliminarlo.

Saludos, y perdón por el malentendido.
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Re: Discos de instalacion hamm

1998-05-28 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 09:45:56AM -0500, Roberto Ruiz wrote:
 
 Esto esta medio peliagudo:
 
 Había un juego de discos de instalación fechados (según el directorio)
 1998-04-11, los cuales en un mirror que realize entre el 10 y el 12 de
 mayo funcionaban bien para instalar, y estaban apuntados como current en
 la estructura de directorios de disks-i386, pero ya existía un directorio
 llamado 1998-04-26, y los discos de instalación de ahí no me funcionaron.

Son sucesivas versiones de prueba de los discos de instalación, y como
tales tiene algunos errores (algunos muy gordos). La última versión fue
instalada ayer, así que debe estar en un directorio 1998-05-27 o así.
Prueba a usarla, ya que corrige casi todos los errores detectados en las
versiones anteriores, y es el primer release candidate de esta serie.

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Re: Bash

1998-05-28 Thread Santiago Vila
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On Thu, 28 May 1998, Angel Vicente Perez wrote:

 [[ disgustos obtenidos al compilar bash y libreadline ]]
 [...]

 ¿A que puede ser debido esto?. ¿Puede ser egcc?

Puede ser. Los compiladores a veces pueden tener bugs, incluyendo el
super-estable gcc de toda la vida. (Ver bug #22292, por ejemplo).

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KqJbsYndrrAn7rae+ef9k60W5p2C9C4zHk/HemCFo3un+oGfIpBgdFsbKZ5k/KSl
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Otra pregunta sobre el apt

1998-05-28 Thread Tomas Bautista
Buenas!

  ¿Funciona detrás de un cortafuegos/firewall?

  Tomás.


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Re: Suck 3.9 y libc6...

1998-05-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 07:27:05PM +0200, Cosme Perea Cuevas wrote:

   Podéis orientarme. ¿ Me bajo Suck-libc6 y instalo 'a
   saco', o busco el Suck en *.tar.gz y lo compilo para
   libc5 (si eso se puede hacer...) ?

Copia de hamm el paquete del código fuente. Está en
debian/dists/hamm/main/source/news/suck* (son tres archivos, el dsc, el
diff.gz y el tar.gz). Con esto:

$ dpkg-source -x suck*.dsc

obtienes el código fuente debianizado, y lo compilas con

$ cd suck-3...
$ debian/rules binary # como root

para esto necesitas instalar dpkg-dev, el compilador, make, etc...


Marcelo


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Re: Porque no se lanza ip-up

1998-05-28 Thread Jesus Rodrigo
Cosme Perea Cuevas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   tengo entendido que cuando se establece la conexión con
   nuestro proveedor de internet, pppd llama a
   /etc/ppp/ip-up. Pero yo he metido un 'echo Conexión
   establecida' y algún otro 'echo', pero no aparece nada y

Una pregunta: ¿Dónde miras a ver si sale el echo?
pppd se ejecuta en background, y el ip-up también...

   sospecho qe no se ejecuta. ¿Como puedo estar seguro ?

Haz un echo Conexión establecida  /tmp/prueba-ip-up a ver.

   Utilizo Debian 1.3.1. ¿ Alguien puede decirme si le
   funciona en esta distribución y pasarme algún ip-up
   'instructivo' (porque el mio no tiene más que un 'export
   PATH' que no se para que) ?

Si te sirve el mío...:

# The  environment is cleared before executing this script
# so the path must be reset
#
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
export PATH
cat /etc/hosts-up | sed -e s/potrzebie/$4/g  /etc/hosts
sendmail -q
UPDATE=http://members.ml.org/mis-bin/ms3/nic/dyndns?host=mihostcommand=Update+Hostdo=moddomain=mihostact=actipaddr=$4agree=agree;
lynx -dump -auth=XX:N-NN-NN $UPDATE  /etc/ppp/dyn.log
# last line

Te cuento: Cambio el hosts al vuelo para que la ip que me dan
corresponda al nombre del host (así funciona bien el talk, entre
otros), le digo al sendmail que mande lo que tenga por mandar, y
actualizo mi entrada en ml.org para que apunte a mi direccion actual.

Luego en el ip-down deshago lo del hosts.

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MPPP with isdnutils

1998-05-28 Thread Craig Sanders

I'm having difficulty getting multi ppp running with the isdnutils
package.

i can get one channel working with no problems - the debian package for
isdnutils is excellent...works out of the box.  

unfortunately, the documentation and faqs (including the stuff in the
kernel source) are incomprehensible.  they don't make any sense at all to
me.  I'd like to get a 2nd channel going.

has anyone had any luck with MPPP on debian?



btw, i'm running kernel 2.1.103, isdnutils 1:2.1.beta1-21, and have a
NetJet ISDN card (Hisax type=20), and the latest 'unstable' debian.


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Re: angband save problems

1998-05-28 Thread Ed Cogburn
Michael Beattie wrote:
 
 On Tue, 26 May 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
  On Mon, May 25, 1998 at 11:39:09PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
   On Mon, 25 May 1998 23:37:46 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
  
   Wouldn't it just be easier to set the executable to GUID games and 
have
   all the game files owned by games?  That way there is no need to keep 
   adding
   people as they start playing the game.  Or am I missing some fundimental
   security problem with that?
  
   Blah, I mean SUID, not GUID, sorry.
 
  Is the game's code secure? Using the games group and setgid executables
  means that if the game does have holes, all you can do is trash the score
  files for the various games. The same is true using setuid games,
  but also means you could interfere with other people's games
  if you could a setuid games shell etc. Basically the existing systems
  works just fine as far as I can see.
 
 Yup, definitely. Thats why I just added users to the games group, and it
 worked fine, but I had to chmod the files in /etc/angband to group/all
 read for the game to run. (Sorry, there was no need to change permissions
 or ownership of any directorys despite my earlier ramblings.. But since
 there was no problem with running the game, that isnt an issue anyway)
 
 On another point, has anyone got the ^S command to work to save the game
 without exiting? I have to use ^X and fire it up again.
 
Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Hmm, this is interesting, I've never had the ^S command *not* work.  Its
used by Linux (maybe Unix in general) to pause screen output, so if its not
being recognized thats an indication of keyboard/keymap setup problem (or
angband can't intercept the interrupt for it?).  Can you pause a long
directory listing by hitting ^S while the display is scrolling (continue
scrolling, i.e. unpause, with ^Q)?


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Re: can't start netscape

1998-05-28 Thread Ed Cogburn
Richard Sevenich wrote:
 
 I just installed Hamm and am using kde as the desktop environment. Attempting
 to start netscape yields error message:
 can't load library 'libXt.so.6'
 The netscape version is one I used earlier under bo (netscape 4.05).
 The library in the error message exists.
 Any advice/hints?
 TIA
 Richard
 


The library does exist, but its the wrong *version*.  When you upgraded 
to
hamm you upgraded libc from 5 to 6 (glibc2).  All the X stuff is also linked
to the new library.  Unfortunately, the Netscape your using is still
expecting libc5 stuff.  I got this same error, and solved it by going to
netscape.com and downloading the glibc2 version of Netscape 4.05.  The
version I downloaded is in a 'development' subdirectory (under the linux
directory tree) and is named:

communicator-v405-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0_glibc2.tar.gz


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scsi cdrom

1998-05-28 Thread Phlip
Hello
I hope I'm not in the dark about this due to mental deficiancy. I can't
seem to mount my cdrom. I have a buslogic bt946c controlling a 1gig
drive and a chinon 1X cdrom. It recognizes the cdrom at boot buty I
cannot mount it. I either get special device not found error or not a
valid block device error. Is this a common newbie (yes, I am) error?
Thanks
Paul


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Re: How stable is 2.1.103?

1998-05-28 Thread Anthony Fok
On Wed, May 27, 1998 at 10:41:19PM +0300, Liran Zvibel wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I want to upgrade to the development kernel so I will be able to  use CDs
 from NT.

If you want to play it safe, and by CDs from NT you mean the Joliet file
system, then check out the kernel-source-2.0.33 (2.0.33-9) package in hamm
and slink:

  ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/devel/
kernel-source-2.0.33_2.0.33-9.deb

I guess.  :-)  (Of course, try to a mirror that is closest to you.  :-)


kernel-source-2.0.33 (2.0.33-9) frozen unstable; urgency=low

  * Disabled certain MCA NIC drivers (fixes #22254).

 -- Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sun, 10 May 1998 15:59:32 +1000

kernel-source-2.0.33 (2.0.33-8) frozen unstable; urgency=low

  * Disabled experimental drivers.
  * Reapplied joliet patch (fixes #19160, #21537).
  * Built with kernel-package 4.07 (fixes #21229).
  * Replaced NO_PCI with !CONFIG_PCI in 3c59x.c (fixes #21916).

 -- Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri,  1 May 1998 18:29:03 +1000

kernel-source-2.0.33 (2.0.33-7) frozen unstable; urgency=high

  * Applied IP fragmentation patch from Alan Cox.

 -- Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:57:56 +1000

kernel-source-2.0.33 (2.0.33-6) frozen unstable; urgency=low

  * Disabled scc since we don't support ax25 by default (fixes #20307).

 -- Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed,  1 Apr 1998 19:21:05 +1000

kernel-source-2.0.33 (2.0.33-5) unstable; urgency=low

  * Turned rst cookies off.

 -- Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:41:27 +1100

kernel-source-2.0.33 (2.0.33-4) unstable; urgency=low

  * Applied patch from Paul Slootman (fixes #18787).

 -- Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri,  6 Mar 1998 11:30:44 +1100

kernel-source-2.0.33 (2.0.33-3) stable unstable; urgency=low

  * Built with new kernel-package (3.61).
  * Added support for fat32 (fixes #14042).
 
 -- Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:33:40 +1100


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Re: Man ?

1998-05-28 Thread Ed Cogburn
Gutraind wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I'm a new linux user and I've installed debian 1.3.1 .
 I was looking for a comprehensive help for the commands,
 built within linux itself (I don't want to reboot every time to get some
 info or to 'harass' the user lists with basic questions) and heard about
 the Man pages from pofessionals typing ...$ man  ... and getting
 nothing.
 Appearantely, it isn't installed.
 My question is: How I install   man   and use it?
 
 Thanx!
 


Your quote above has me somewhat concerned.  You shouldn't put anything 
in
front of 'man', i.e. man man will run the man command and bring up the man
page for the man command itself.  If man man doesn't work, then indeed you
don't have it installed.  The deb packages are man-db and manpages I
believe.  Look for them, but note that there are a couple of other packages
that provide man pages (manpages-dev, for example, has programming related
man pages).


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Re: Netscape not resolving some domain names

1998-05-28 Thread Ed Cogburn
Keith Alen Vance wrote:
 
 I have just installed Netscape Communicator 4.05  on my Debian 1.3
 system and I am having alittle trouble.
 
 Problem #1 Netscape does not resolve all domain names. It will go to the
 Gimp site but not AfterStep or Netscape homepage. I am assuming that it
 has something to do with reverse DNS or something. It says the the host
 debian is not valid. It is looking at my system name and trying to
 resolve it as a domain name. What do I need to change to make it so I can
 go to all web sites?
 
 Problem #2 Netscape does not fit correctly on my screen. I can't resize
 it because the blue bar at the top is off the screen. Is there a keyboard
 command I can use to resize the Netscape window. Can I just make it full
 screen? I am running Xfree86 3.3.1 and AfterStep 1.4.
 
 Thank You,
 Keith
 


I can't really help with Problem #1.  Do you have a PPP connection to an
ISP, or something more complicated?
With problem #2, can you 'grab' (with the mouse; put arrow over side 
edge
and press and hold button 1) the side of the Netscape box and pull it
up/down so the top blue box is visible?  This may depend on the window
manager you are using (I'm using fvwm95).  If all else fails, you can hack
the '~/.netscape/preferences.js' file and modify the window size manually,
so that it fits.


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3d pass through

1998-05-28 Thread Ian Keith Setford

Yo-

I just got another machine which I would like to dual boot *grin* with
Winblows so I can have fun playing StarCraft and Unreal.  I would like to
get a 3dfx card.  Will linux care if the 3dfx card is installed?  I don't
wish to use the 3dfx card in linux just the regular pci card I already
have.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

-Ian 
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Re: scsi cdrom

1998-05-28 Thread aqy6633
 I hope I'm not in the dark about this due to mental deficiancy. I can't
 seem to mount my cdrom. I have a buslogic bt946c controlling a 1gig
 drive and a chinon 1X cdrom. It recognizes the cdrom at boot buty I
 cannot mount it. I either get special device not found error or not a
 valid block device error. Is this a common newbie (yes, I am) error?

Could you please give the command you use to mount CD-ROM?
During boot you see messages from the kernel about recognized devices.
It should say that it sees the CD-ROM as a device (something like) /dev/sr0 

You would then mount it with 
mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /mnt

Alex Y.

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Nethack save files: was: angband save problems

1998-05-28 Thread Britton Leo Kerin

Nethack seems to have the same sort of problem.  Is this perhaps a
systematic error in debian's arrangement for games and other things
that have to save data of this sort, or is there something we're
missing?  I seem to remember a big argument about where to keep
certain kinds of 'variable-config-save-sorta-thingies' somewhat
recently, could that be related to thses problems?

 Yes, that is how you do it.  However, as to whether or not that would
 help, or is advisable, I'm not sure.  Your executable is set GUID.  Hrm.  But
 the files are not set to group writable.  Maybe that is the problem.
 
 Permissions are the same as my save file (name 1000.mcv21 and mcv21
 instead of apc27)
 
 They're all in angband/lib/save, right?

Nope  /var/lib/games/angband/save/

Interestingly, character dumps fail as well

Matthew


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Re: scsi cdrom

1998-05-28 Thread George Rimel

On Wed, 27 May 1998, Phlip wrote:

 Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 18:17:38 -0700
 From: Phlip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: scsi cdrom
 Resent-Date: 28 May 1998 01:15:17 -
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ;
 
 Hello
 I hope I'm not in the dark about this due to mental deficiancy. I can't
 seem to mount my cdrom. I have a buslogic bt946c controlling a 1gig
 drive and a chinon 1X cdrom. It recognizes the cdrom at boot buty I
 cannot mount it. I either get special device not found error or not a
 valid block device error. Is this a common newbie (yes, I am) error?
 Thanks
 Paul
 

Well, I had(and still have at times) I forget that cdroms are represented
in /dev as scd _not_ sd[123456].

George




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Iomega parallel Ditto 2G

1998-05-28 Thread Lazar Fleysher

Is  Iomega Ditto 2G parallel tape drive supported by Linux (ftape)?

Thank you

ZORO


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Re: Netscape #2 doesn't fit on the screen

1998-05-28 Thread Ed Cogburn
Martos-Riano wrote:
 
 Ed Cogburn wrote:
 
  Keith Alen Vance wrote:
  
   I have just installed Netscape Communicator 4.05  on my Debian 1.3
   system and I am having alittle trouble.
  
   Problem #1 Netscape does not resolve all domain names. It will go to the
   Gimp site but not AfterStep or Netscape homepage. I am assuming that it
   has something to do with reverse DNS or something. It says the the host
   debian is not valid. It is looking at my system name and trying to
   resolve it as a domain name. What do I need to change to make it so I can
   go to all web sites?
  
   Problem #2 Netscape does not fit correctly on my screen. I can't resize
   it because the blue bar at the top is off the screen. Is there a keyboard
   command I can use to resize the Netscape window. Can I just make it full
   screen? I am running Xfree86 3.3.1 and AfterStep 1.4.
  
   Thank You,
   Keith
  
 
  I can't really help with Problem #1.  Do you have a PPP connection 
  to an
  ISP, or something more complicated?
  With problem #2, can you 'grab' (with the mouse; put arrow over 
  side edge
  and press and hold button 1) the side of the Netscape box and pull it
  up/down so the top blue box is visible?  This may depend on the window
  manager you are using (I'm using fvwm95).  If all else fails, you can hack
  the '~/.netscape/preferences.js' file and modify the window size manually,
  so that it fits.
 
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 I have been told you can give the size of the programms in .Xdefault,
 
 Netscape.geometry:= 700x600
 Netscape.Mail.geometry:= 900x700
 
 and so on for News, Composition, and other programms.
 
 HTH,
 
 dm


Yes that will work too, but Netscape keeps its own track of what the 
user
wants for the sizes of the various windows.  It stores this in
preferences.js.  It is easier to get the values in preferences.js right by
just setting the windows the way you want them and then 'Close' them within
Netscape (with a 'proper' exit, Netscape will record the window
dimensions).  This is easier than manually editing Xdefaults (IMHO of
course).


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Re: Nethack save files: was: angband save problems

1998-05-28 Thread Ed Cogburn
Britton Leo Kerin wrote:
 
 Nethack seems to have the same sort of problem.  Is this perhaps a
 systematic error in debian's arrangement for games and other things
 that have to save data of this sort, or is there something we're
 missing?  I seem to remember a big argument about where to keep
 certain kinds of 'variable-config-save-sorta-thingies' somewhat
 recently, could that be related to thses problems?
 
  Yes, that is how you do it.  However, as to whether or not that would
  help, or is advisable, I'm not sure.  Your executable is set GUID.  Hrm.  
  But
  the files are not set to group writable.  Maybe that is the problem.
 
  Permissions are the same as my save file (name 1000.mcv21 and mcv21
  instead of apc27)
 
  They're all in angband/lib/save, right?
 
 Nope  /var/lib/games/angband/save/
 
 Interestingly, character dumps fail as well
 
 Matthew


By default a character dump would go into 'angband/lib/user' so unless 
you
give explicit group write access for this directory, it will fail.  I think
it *should* fail, because you really want users to keep their stuff in their
home area.  
Actually, angband should be upgraded so that it can dump these kind of
files (char dumps, user pref files) in a user provided destination
(somewhere in their home area) instead of assuming the user always has write
access to 'angband/lib/user'.


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dpkg: howto

1998-05-28 Thread Phlip
Hello
I got some xwindows stuff off the Debian site and I am stumped as to how
to use dpkg to uncomprees? them? I put them on an msdos floppy but
cannot minipulate them with dpkg.
There is another prog called dpkg-xxx that I was able to view them with
and that worked fine but I cannot get anything working with dpkg. I
viewed the help files but they are of little use to me
Thanks
Paul


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Re: dpkg: howto

1998-05-28 Thread Ed Cogburn
Phlip wrote:
 
 Hello
 I got some xwindows stuff off the Debian site and I am stumped as to how
 to use dpkg to uncomprees? them? I put them on an msdos floppy but
 cannot minipulate them with dpkg.
 There is another prog called dpkg-xxx that I was able to view them with
 and that worked fine but I cannot get anything working with dpkg. I
 viewed the help files but they are of little use to me
 Thanks
 Paul
 


You shouldn't need to just uncompress them.  If you want to install them
then dpkg -i name_of_deb_file.deb will do the trick.


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developer needs net access in Philadelphia and Atlantic City

1998-05-28 Thread Joey Hess
Hi, I'm one of the developers, and I will be in Philadelphia, PA and Atlantic
City, NJ next week without net access. If any kind soul here lives in one
of those cities and could donate me an hour of net access a day so I can keep
current on debian mail and bugs in my packages, I'd be eternally greatful.

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[ debian-user-request ] kernel-module version mismatch error

1998-05-28 Thread Martos-Riano
Hello,

I have spent a while trying to add a module to my kernel.

The module in question is the yellowfin.c for a gigabit ethernet card available
at

http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/yellowfin.c




I have again made everystep from the beginning.

1. recompile the kernel
  ( It wasn't needed, but just in case. BTW, how do you check the kernel has
been compiled with some options?)
2. recompile yellowfin.c with the command line given at the end of the file:
gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c yellowfin.c
2.5  install 644 etc... (see web page)
3. make modules
4. make modules_install
5. depmod -a
   This has raised a lot of unresolved dependencies...but not for yellowfin.o .
6. insmod yellowfin.o
 And again the same error:

/lib/modules/2.0.30/misc/yellowfin.o: kernel-module version mismatch
/lib/modules/2.0.30/misc/yellowfin.o was compiled for kernel version
2.0.29
while this kernel is version 2.0.30.

7. modprobe yellowfin also raises this error.

There is only one yellowfin.o in the system, by the way. I have uninstalled
every reference to 2.0.29 (I had the sources) yesterday.



What can it be?


tx for advices,

dm









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Stronghold Apache

1998-05-28 Thread John Kloss
so I'm thinking about hosting a web site to do e-commerce (selling disk
and database space to some local stores who want on-line catalogs). so I
figure that they would probably want SSL for credit card stuff. since I'm
in the US I can't just compile in SSLeay to apache without copywrite
violation to RSA, etc. (so says the apache web site) I was thinking about
Stronghold. I went to their site and they said it was basically apache
(I'm assuming 1.2.6 since 1.3 is still beta) with 128bit  encryption. They
have binaries for red hat 5.0 but I want to use debian 2.0 since it's what
I know and I like it.

anyone had any experience with this? anyone know of another way (other
than moving out of the US, paying a license fee to RSA and registering a
digital signature with verisign (or whatever they're called), or waiting
for congress to get a clue about encryption)? I want to use apache or some
derivative (because that is also what I know).

thanks in advance

- John Kloss



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Re: Stronghold Apache

1998-05-28 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 02:10:30AM -0400, John Kloss wrote:

Your name seems familliar to me from the days when I used DOS to access the
net more frequently than anything else..  Admittedly that was long ago so I
could be wrong.


 so I'm thinking about hosting a web site to do e-commerce (selling disk
 and database space to some local stores who want on-line catalogs). so I
 figure that they would probably want SSL for credit card stuff. since I'm
 in the US I can't just compile in SSLeay to apache without copywrite
 violation to RSA, etc. (so says the apache web site) I was thinking about
 Stronghold. I went to their site and they said it was basically apache
 (I'm assuming 1.2.6 since 1.3 is still beta) with 128bit  encryption. They
 have binaries for red hat 5.0 but I want to use debian 2.0 since it's what
 I know and I like it.

There are AFAIK patches available to SSLeay to use RSAREF.  There are also
Apache-ssl Debian packages in non-us which can be IMPORTED to the US, but
not EXPORTED again.  There's also a rsaref package in non-us.

So, get the source packages for all of these things, build a custom SSLeay
with RSAREF linked in, build a custom apache-ssl, and call it good.  Or if
you don't CARE if your apache uses RSAREF since it uses SSLeay which
functions the same with or without it, just grab the apache-ssl binary
package.  I won't tell RSA if you don't.  =


 anyone had any experience with this? anyone know of another way (other
 than moving out of the US, paying a license fee to RSA and registering a
 digital signature with verisign (or whatever they're called), or waiting
 for congress to get a clue about encryption)? I want to use apache or some
 derivative (because that is also what I know).

Yeah, build the packages yourself.  =p  This is not an ideal solution and
it's really the fault of the Clinton administration and the FBI that it's as
bad as that.  Although the real dog is the RSA patent, I think it's
probably possible to challenge the patent if you could challenge the patent
if not for current crypto laws...


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mutt not in color

1998-05-28 Thread lgunman
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello:

I just installed mutt on my computer and it is not in color.  Here is
an output of mutt -v:

Mutt 0.91i (1998-04-11)
Copyright (C) 1996-8 Michael R. Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.0.29 [using slang 9938]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-HIDDEN_HOST  +HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
+USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_RX  +HAVE_COLOR  -BUFFY_SIZE  -EXACT_ADDRESS
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
MAILPATH=Mailbox
SHAREDIR=/usr/local/lib
ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell

Mail bug reports along with this output to [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Notice I compiled with slang.  Also, I have a recent terminfo database
(Debian 1.3.1 installed).  My $TERM is set to linux.  I've also tried
rxvt, colr_xterm, and xterm for the TERM variable.  mutt is not in
color on the console nor in an xterm or rxvt term (under X).  I am NOT
using screen.  I also tried explicitly setting the TERMINFO variable
to my terminfo database path.  Nothing works.  It's nasty.

Thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Does Debian support...

1998-05-28 Thread Rafal Gasiorek
Hi,

Just a simple question:

I need to be able to access data from Linux, Win95 and NT running on
the same machine. Currently I can only do this with Slackware...
I tried RED HAT, very nice - good installation and easy setup of X,
however no support for UMSDOS (? is this what the file system is
called?).

So does DEBIAN support this feature?

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Re: mutt not in color

1998-05-28 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 02:02:51AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just installed mutt on my computer and it is not in color.  Here is
 an output of mutt -v:

Did you install the debian package mutt?


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Re: Does Debian support...

1998-05-28 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 05:19:16PM +1000, Rafal Gasiorek wrote:
 I need to be able to access data from Linux, Win95 and NT running on
 the same machine. Currently I can only do this with Slackware...
 I tried RED HAT, very nice - good installation and easy setup of X,
 however no support for UMSDOS (? is this what the file system is
 called?).
 
 So does DEBIAN support this feature?

UMSDOS is only needed if you don't wanna make a real Linux partition. 
Debian does with the 2.0.33 kernel found in the hamm dist read vfat (2.0.29
did that), fat32, and joliet CD-ROM's.  Recent devel kernels can even read
and (if you're VERY daring) write NTFS.

Yes, Debian supports UMSDOS if you really want it.  No idea why you would,
but.


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Japanese keyboard

1998-05-28 Thread Martos-Riano


I haven't found a japanese keyboard at the base/kbd pakage. Nevertheless, an
Xwindow configuration does come with one of such keyboards

Can someone tell me where to find one?

thanks,

dm


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nn dumps core

1998-05-28 Thread lgunman
[This message has also been posted.]
Hello:

I just installed a fresh Debian 1.3.1 Linux system.  I cannot get nn
(No news is good news news reader).  I have the $NNTPSERVER set
correctly, and also /etc/nntpserver is also correct.

When I type nn, it prints two lines, one that looks like a preliminary
check of my news server (it's calling the correct one), then another
line that's basically the same but has (posting okay) added to the
end.  Then it just sits there for a very LONG time.  I'm on a 28.8
modem using ppp; when nn freezes, I see the rd light continuously
flashing for a long time.  Then the light will stop, nn will quit with
a segmentation fault, and the core will be dumped.  What gives?

Any help would be sincerely appreciated.

Thanks a million,
garman AT uiuc DOT edu


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Re: Iomega parallel Ditto 2G

1998-05-28 Thread Johann Spies
No.


Johann

On Wed, 27 May 1998, Lazar Fleysher wrote:

 Is  Iomega Ditto 2G parallel tape drive supported by Linux (ftape)?
 
 Thank you
 
 ZORO
 
 
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RE: NT and Linux

1998-05-28 Thread Robbie McGarrigle
-Original Message-
From: King Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 8:29 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: NT and Linux



Hello,

I got into a discussion with a system administrator of
a website.  The system administrator wishes  to use
NT because it supports software raid 5 (raid without
a special controller). I thought if it works, 
there  would be a terrible performance
degradation. The system administrator said only 
if a disk goes down would there be a performance hit.

Does anyone here know anything about
The questions I have are 

   1.   Has anyone here had any experience or knowledge
   about software raid. How good is it?
   2.   Does Linux  support hardware raid 5

I think this guy is looking for an excuse not to use
Linux.

King Lee


1. I'm currently got a bundle of Alpha-Servers running NT 4.0. All but
one of them uses hardware raid 5 (Controlled by an HSZ40 in a DEC
storage works cab.) It is DEFINATELY faster than the one which has NT
controlled RAID 5. Hardware controlled  software controlled sets are
both same sizes on each server. This difference is phenomenal. Aside
from mere disk access - you should see how much CPU time is used keeping
the RAID set working on the software controlled one.. I'll never setup
software RAID again.

2. If Linux can see SCSI disks (which it can) it's all just a matter of
plugging your SCSI cable into a hardware RAID box (such as the Digital
Storage Works cabinets). The hardware controller takes care of
everything. Linux will just see it as one huge disk. You will however
need to spend an extra half-an-hour setting up the controller (It'll be
done through a dumb terminal - and it's dead easy).

Robbie


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Getting ttyx

1998-05-28 Thread Michael Beattie

What is the best way to get the current console's tty? I know tty does the
job, but how do I find the name WITHOUT the /dev/ ? i.e. tty1, tty2, tty3
etc? I want to use it with bl in a script.


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Re: Quake

1998-05-28 Thread Michael Beattie
On Wed, 27 May 1998, Joey Hess wrote:

 Michael Beattie wrote:
  -sndbits 8  gave me a promising result, just a bit of clicking
  occasionally, I could live with it.. but.. Is there any other cure, or if
  not, where can I put the parameter as a default so I dont need to type it
  every time?
 
 I'm afraid you'll have to type it every time. You caqn set up a shell script
 or alias.

Okay.. thanks.

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Re: how to get color ls display?

1998-05-28 Thread Frank Barknecht
the lone gunman hat gesagt: // the lone gunman wrote:

 I recently installed Debian 1.3.1 that I purchased from Linux System
 Labs.  I have had several problems, and cannot seem to find the
 answers.
 
 Getting color with ls!  I copied my /etc/DIR_COLORS from my old
 slackware system to my new Debian system.  In my /etc/profile, I have
 dircolors -b run, and then I alias ls=ls --color=auto.

You could also make your own DIR_COLORS-file with:
$ dircolors -p  ~/DIR_COLORS # -p means print-database

 Now, if I un-alias ls (that is, only dircolors is run), then NOTHING
 is in color. 

Yep, that's what you told 'ls'. It's a feature, I think.

 But with the alias, regardless of what I do with
 dircolors, I get my lists in color, but not the custom colors I've
 defined in /etc/DIR_COLORS.

Try something like:
---
eval `dircolors  /etc/DIR_COLORS`
---

in /etc/profile or  in ~/.bash_profile:

eval `dircolors $HOME/DIR_COLORS` 


if you made your own file like I described above.

Make sure that the environment variable
`LS_COLORS' is set. Check this with:

$ env | grep LS_COLORS

This is descibed in the info page to dircolors info dircolors.

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Again: Mouse problem running 'xbase-configure'

1998-05-28 Thread Tomas Petersson
Hello, when I try to configure X I get the errormsg below
as soon as I move the mouse.
I have a standard Microsoft mouse connected to COM1
Any ideas?


/Tomas Petersson 


can't read tkPriv(x): no such element in array
while executing
if {(300 != $tkPriv(x)) || (189 != $tkPriv(y))} {
set tkPriv(mouseMoved) 1
}
(command bound to event)


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Re: Can I read NTFS from Linux?

1998-05-28 Thread Damon Muller
Greets,

 The 2.1.x kernels have read (and experimental write) support for NTFS, I
 believe you can get NTFS for 2.0.x kernels, but it is probably not as good.
 
 I've used it occasionally at work and havn't had any problems.

I haven't used it myself for a while now, but there is a loadable module
that reads NTFS, prolly called ntfs.o or something silly like that.
Unfortunately I can't remember the URL, but it shouldn't be too hard to
find.

I only used it a little, but it seemed to work alright for me. I haven't
got Linux on my NT system at the moment, so I don't need it any more...
A *great* way to get around NT's wonderful laugh security tho :)

damon

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Re: Is there any program like ICQ ? Thanks ! ;)

1998-05-28 Thread Damon Muller
G'day,

  I really need ICQ cause some of my friends use it on Windoze and we like
 to know when someone are online! I think this is the better idea ! ;)

A mate of mine was telling me about an ICQ hack that runs on Linux
console, but I never got around to getting the source off him, so I'm
not certain it actually exists!

There are, however, lots of ppl. who have been working at hacking the
ICQ protocol, and I think they have got it worked out pretty well. There
are ICQ spoofers, which will send an ICQ message as any UNI, but I have
never personally got it to work.

Lot of conjecture and hearsay there, eh? :)

But I think, all up, it should be very possible for someone to make a
very unofficial ICQ client for linux. 

damon

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Re: angband save problems

1998-05-28 Thread Michael Beattie
On Wed, 27 May 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:

 Michael Beattie wrote:

[snip]

  On another point, has anyone got the ^S command to work to save the game
  without exiting? I have to use ^X and fire it up again.
  
 Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 
   Hmm, this is interesting, I've never had the ^S command *not* work.  Its
 used by Linux (maybe Unix in general) to pause screen output, so if its not
 being recognized thats an indication of keyboard/keymap setup problem (or
 angband can't intercept the interrupt for it?).  Can you pause a long
 directory listing by hitting ^S while the display is scrolling (continue
 scrolling, i.e. unpause, with ^Q)?

Yeah.. I can. and now that I think about it, the scroll lock light comes
on.. is there a way to fix it? I havent changed anything to do with the
keymap...


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Re: Getting ttyx

1998-05-28 Thread forsberg
 What is the best way to get the current console's tty? I know tty does the
 job, but how do I find the name WITHOUT the /dev/ ? i.e. tty1, tty2, tty3
 etc? I want to use it with bl in a script.

tty | cut -c 6-

=)

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Where can i get this

1998-05-28 Thread Mario Filipe
Hi

Fisrt of all i'm still running BO.

I've been trying to compile gnome and I had a few problems. The solution that I
was given was as follows :

You need a newer version of makeinfo; or more to the point a newer
texinfo.tex (which comes with makeinfo).  I had thought that distributing a
texinfo.tex which matches texi files in the same directory would be enough
here... but gtk+ does supply a good one, so I guess not =(O|

So where can i find these makeinfo and textinfo.tex ???

Thanks 

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is pam linux specific?

1998-05-28 Thread Ulisses Alonso
Hi all

that's the question...

Ulisses
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Re: scsi cdrom

1998-05-28 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Wed, May 27, 1998 at 06:17:38PM -0700, Phlip wrote:
 I hope I'm not in the dark about this due to mental deficiancy. I can't
 seem to mount my cdrom. I have a buslogic bt946c controlling a 1gig
 drive and a chinon 1X cdrom.
What name do you try?

It should be /dev/scd0 if it is the only SCSI cdrom you have.
It could also be necessary to load the SCSI-cdrom driver before, so if the
sequence

# modprobe sr_mod
# mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom

does not work, I don't know what could be wrong. Are you using a custom
(i.e. not shipped with debian) kernel?

Nils

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Re: Installing 1.3 on IBM PS/1

1998-05-28 Thread Bonard B. Timmons III
Jonathan Hester [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   hda: status timeout: status=0xff { Busy }
   hda: drive not ready for command
   ide0: reset timeout, status=0xff
   (...repeat of these three messages...)
   end_request: I/O error, dev 03:00, sector 0
   hda: drive not ready for command
   

Have you tried getting into the BIOS setup to see if it tells you
anything about the hard drive?

Bake


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Re: File-system on tape

1998-05-28 Thread Kenneth . Scharf
 On Tue, May 26, 1998 at 10:15:58PM -0600, Lazar Fleysher wrote:
 Is it possible to create a file system on a tape drive ( like on
 mainframes) and use it as a disk? I know it is very slow, but is it
 possible?

 That is really very sick and twisted to even think of such a thing...
 hmm I wonder why I never thought of it :)

QIC tapes (FTAPE) use the floppy disk controller and are formatted like
floppy disks with 'tracks' and 'sectors' and so are block replaceable.
This means that they CAN hold a random access file system just like disks,
only SLOWER.  QIC tapes have from 20 to 80 parallel tracks on them,
switching tracks is done by moving the head up and down (just like the old
8 track tapes).  DEC made a QIC tape drive called DEC-TAPE II that
interfaced with an rs-232 link.  It was random access (just like the
original dec-tape), each tape holding about as much as an old 8 SSSD
floppy.
I remember running the dungeon (aka zork) game on an lsi-11 (pdp-11/03)
machine with dual dec tape II drives.  Yuchk was it slow!




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Re: can't start netscape

1998-05-28 Thread Kenneth . Scharf

Richard Sevenich wrote:

 I just installed Hamm and am using kde as the desktop environment.
Attempting
 to start netscape yields error message:
 can't load library 'libXt.so.6'
 The netscape version is one I used earlier under bo (netscape 4.05).
 The library in the error message exists.
 Any advice/hints?
 TIA
 Richard



The library does exist, but its the wrong *version*.  When you
upgraded to
hamm you upgraded libc from 5 to 6 (glibc2).  All the X stuff is also
linked
to the new library.  Unfortunately, the Netscape your using is still
expecting libc5 stuff.  I got this same error, and solved it by going to
netscape.com and downloading the glibc2 version of Netscape 4.05.  The
version I downloaded is in a 'development' subdirectory (under the linux
directory tree) and is named:

communicator-v405-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0_glibc2.tar.gz

Awhile ago I was running redhat 5.0 (also glibc2).  I downloaded the
communicator RPM package and it worked fine.  So the redhat specific
version of netscape may work if installed as alien.



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Re: angband save problems

1998-05-28 Thread Ed Cogburn
Michael Beattie wrote:
 
 On Wed, 27 May 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:
 
  Michael Beattie wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
   On another point, has anyone got the ^S command to work to save the game
   without exiting? I have to use ^X and fire it up again.
  
  Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 
Hmm, this is interesting, I've never had the ^S command *not* work.  
  Its
  used by Linux (maybe Unix in general) to pause screen output, so if its not
  being recognized thats an indication of keyboard/keymap setup problem (or
  angband can't intercept the interrupt for it?).  Can you pause a long
  directory listing by hitting ^S while the display is scrolling (continue
  scrolling, i.e. unpause, with ^Q)?
 
 Yeah.. I can. and now that I think about it, the scroll lock light comes
 on.. is there a way to fix it? I havent changed anything to do with the
 keymap...
 


The scroll light is supposed to come on.  Your Linux is working fine, so
for some reason, your copy of angband isn't.  Are you using a copy you
compiled yourself or a precompiled version from some package.  Is it the
latest version (2.83)?  I've allways compiled my own version, and have never
had a problem with the ^S command.  Weird...


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Re: mutt not in color

1998-05-28 Thread Michael Acklin
At 02:02 AM 5/28/98 +, you wrote: 
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
Hello: 
 
I just installed mutt on my computer and it is not in color. Here is 
an output of mutt -v: 
 
Notice I compiled with slang. Also, I have a recent terminfo database 
(Debian 1.3.1 installed). My $TERM is set to linux. I've also tried 
rxvt, colr_xterm, and xterm for the TERM variable. mutt is not in 
color on the console nor in an xterm or rxvt term (under X). I am NOT 
using screen. I also tried explicitly setting the TERMINFO variable 
to my terminfo database path. Nothing works. It's nasty. 
 
Thanks 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Hello,

I am running the same version you are and had the same problem when I 
compiled Mutt 0.91i. You have a few choices to get color in Mutt and 
probably the easiest and best way is the following:

1. I think the mutt exec is in /usr/local/bin. If not look in /usr/bin. 
MV 
mutt to mutt.91i. 

2. Dselect the mutt.deb file from the list and install it from dselect. 
It 
will set everything up for you and you will have a very nice color scheme. 
This shouldn't take long as it is only about 3-400k.

3. Go back to /usr/local/bin (or where the deb mutt is installed, I am 
away from my machine and can't remember exactly where the file is). MV the 
deb mutt mutt.91 then MV the mutt.91i to mutt.

4. Then run mutt and you should have a very nice colored mutt with PGP 
support.

That is the easy way. There are a few other options and is based on the 
.muttrc file. Take a look in the /etc/ dir for a file called Muttrc. This 
is the global muttrc file. Also look in the doc or directory that you 
compiled mutt in. There should be a file called sample.muttrc you can 
copy that file to your home dir and copy it to .muttrc and it should give 
you the colors Michael Elkins uses. It is very easy to customize using the 
.muttrc file. 

Hope this helps 
 
Mike Acklin 
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Re: angband save problems

1998-05-28 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Thu, 28 May 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:

   The scroll light is supposed to come on.  Your Linux is working fine, so
 for some reason, your copy of angband isn't.  Are you using a copy you
 compiled yourself or a precompiled version from some package.  Is it the
 latest version (2.83)?  I've allways compiled my own version, and have never
 had a problem with the ^S command.  Weird...

I'm using a precompiled angband (the .deb one), and I have the same
problem with ^S. Phaps a bug should be filed?

Matthew

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Re: Again: Mouse problem running 'xbase-configure'

1998-05-28 Thread Bonard B. Timmons III
Tomas Petersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello, when I try to configure X I get the errormsg below
 as soon as I move the mouse.
 I have a standard Microsoft mouse connected to COM1
 Any ideas?

I don't know what the error message really means, but I know what I
would do here. I would just run xf86config, where fewer things can go
wrong.

Bake


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Re: Where can i get this

1998-05-28 Thread Bonard B. Timmons III
Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You need a newer version of makeinfo; or more to the point a newer
 texinfo.tex (which comes with makeinfo).  I had thought that distributing a
 texinfo.tex which matches texi files in the same directory would be enough
 here... but gtk+ does supply a good one, so I guess not =(O|
 
 So where can i find these makeinfo and textinfo.tex ???

According to dpkg -S makeinfo and dpkg -S texinfo.tex we have
tetex-bin: /usr/bin/makeinfo
tetex-base: /usr/lib/texmf/tex/texinfo/texinfo.tex.

So it looks like you need to install tetex-bin and tetex-base. I
forgot whether these packages are in bo, but bo certainly does have
some type of tex packages.

Bake


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pon

1998-05-28 Thread Frustrated
I'm still struggling with pon. I wrote the exact login sequence for my
ISP. Maybe someone can help.
plog tells me chatscript failed.
Plog output looks like this
CONNECT 28800
^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^??^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^??^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^??^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^??^?^?^?^?
-failed
-connect script failed
-terminated
-exit
Or something Very similar.
In my ppp.chatscript I have all the regular stuff such as ABORT on BUSY
etc.
At the end of my chatscript is
ogin my username
swordmy passwprd
~
~
My ISP puts out the following message when connecting with Windows

Welcome to NextLink
login: Enter username
password: Enter password
Entering ppp mode
IP Address is 208.24.187.208
MTU is 1524

At this point I hit f7 and everything works well with Windows, however,
with pon I can never connect.
Any help is appreciated.


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Re: is pam linux specific?

1998-05-28 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Thu, 28 May 1998, Ulisses Alonso wrote:

 that's the question...

No.  At least Solaris uses it as well.  I believe Sun was the primary
developer of pam.

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after upgrading to hamm, ppp problems

1998-05-28 Thread Rich Hartman
Hello everyone:

After many trials and tribulations, I have finally upgraded to 
hamm... First, I installed Debian 1.3 from CD, then immediately wrote 
my ppp script required to login to my server - worked great. 
Immediately upgraded to latest stable version, THEN immediately 
upgraded to hamm using autoup.sh.  All went well, except now when I 
try to use my ppp script, it doesn't work properly. I hear it dialing 
the modem AND connecting, but apparently the connection only lasts a 
couple of seconds (if I try to telnet, I get the error message 
hostname lookup failure). Keep in mind that nothing has changed (to 
my knowledge) in regards to the ppp script file (I also checked my 
resolv.conf file, while contains nameserver info, etc - it's still 
there and still has all info).

One thing - perl, data-dumper and libnet-perl are not installed yet 
(for some reason, perl was not selected when I ran thru dselect) 
Could this be the reason?

Thanks in advance,

Rich


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Re: angband save problems

1998-05-28 Thread Ed Cogburn
M.C. Vernon wrote:
 
 On Thu, 28 May 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:
 
 
First, what does the program do when you try ^S?  Does angband give a
  message?
 
 It hangs - the scroll lock light comes on, and won't go out again... :(
 
 This can only be rectified by hitting the scroll lock key, at which point
 angband responds to any keystrokes you press between ^S and scroll lock,
 and displays no hint of having `heard' the ^S
 
 Matthew
 


I know what the deal is.  I just checked the deb package.  ^S isn't 
being
intercepted.  There's a compile time option to disable ^S to prevent certain
methods of cheating.  The prepackaged deb was compiled with that option on. 
The deb package was apparently setup for a multi-user environment where all
possible means of preventing cheating have been used so that you can be
pretty confident that the high score list is not made up of cheaters.  It
also doesn't include the borg.
If you want the ^S, the only way now is to compile angband for yourself.


-- 
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Re: angband save problems

1998-05-28 Thread Michael Beattie
On Thu, 28 May 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:

 M.C. Vernon wrote:
  
  On Thu, 28 May 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:
  
  
 First, what does the program do when you try ^S?  Does angband give 
   a
   message?
  
  It hangs - the scroll lock light comes on, and won't go out again... :(
  
  This can only be rectified by hitting the scroll lock key, at which point
  angband responds to any keystrokes you press between ^S and scroll lock,
  and displays no hint of having `heard' the ^S
  
  Matthew
  
 
 
   I know what the deal is.  I just checked the deb package.  ^S isn't 
 being
 intercepted.  There's a compile time option to disable ^S to prevent certain
 methods of cheating.  The prepackaged deb was compiled with that option on. 
 The deb package was apparently setup for a multi-user environment where all
 possible means of preventing cheating have been used so that you can be
 pretty confident that the high score list is not made up of cheaters.  It
 also doesn't include the borg.
   If you want the ^S, the only way now is to compile angband for yourself.


Dang...



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RE: Getting ttyx

1998-05-28 Thread Lewis, James M.

try something like:
mytty=$(basename $(tty))
echo $mytty

jim

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Subject:Getting ttyx


What is the best way to get the current console's tty? I know tty does the
job, but how do I find the name WITHOUT the /dev/ ? i.e. tty1, tty2, tty3
etc? I want to use it with bl in a script.


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Re: Getting ttyx

1998-05-28 Thread Michael Beattie
On Thu, 28 May 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What is the best way to get the current console's tty? I know tty does the
  job, but how do I find the name WITHOUT the /dev/ ? i.e. tty1, tty2, tty3
  etc? I want to use it with bl in a script.
 
 tty | cut -c 6-
 
 =)


Thanks!


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Re: pon

1998-05-28 Thread Ed Cogburn
Frustrated wrote:
 
 I'm still struggling with pon. I wrote the exact login sequence for my
 ISP. Maybe someone can help.

[snip]

 Any help is appreciated.
 

Here is my chatscript:


TIMEOUT 3
ABORT   '\nBUSY\r'
ABORT   '\nNO CARRIER\r'
ABORT   '\nNO ANSWER\r'
ABORT   '\nRINGING\r\n\r\nRINGING\r'
ABORT   '\nVOICE\r'
ABORT   '\nNO DIALTONE\r'
ABORT   '\nWAITING\r'
''  AT
OK-+++\c-OK ATH0
''  ATZ
TIMEOUT 30
OK  ATDT999
CONNECT ''
ogin:--ogin:login_name
word:   \qpass_word\q


Of course:  don't include the lines with asterisks.
replace 999 with your ISP's phone number.
replace login_name with your login name for your ISP.
replace pass_word with your pass word for your ISP.


Hope this helps, Frustrated.  :-)


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Re: pon

1998-05-28 Thread Bonard B. Timmons III
(1) Check your /etc/ppp/peers/provider file for this line:

connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider

Make sure to put the -v in there if it is not there.


(2) After you run pon and it fails, examine the /var/log/syslog
file. At the end of it you should see a record of the chat with your
ISP. This will probably indicate the problem.


Happy Linuxing,

Bake


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Re: after upgrading to hamm, ppp problems

1998-05-28 Thread Bonard B. Timmons III
Make sure that your /etc/ppp/peers/provider file contains:

noauth

This option tells pppd not to expect your ISP to authenticate itself
to you.


Bake


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Re: Stronghold Apache

1998-05-28 Thread John Kloss

 There are AFAIK patches available to SSLeay to use RSAREF.  There are also
 Apache-ssl Debian packages in non-us which can be IMPORTED to the US, but
 not EXPORTED again.  There's also a rsaref package in non-us.
 
 So, get the source packages for all of these things, build a custom SSLeay
 with RSAREF linked in, build a custom apache-ssl, and call it good.  Or if
 you don't CARE if your apache uses RSAREF since it uses SSLeay which
 functions the same with or without it, just grab the apache-ssl binary
 package.  I won't tell RSA if you don't.  =
 

Okay, so I know about rsaref and I can't use it, not commercially at
least. I really don't have any interest in breaking the law no matter how
stupid the law is.

so I've also heard of the covalent raven ssl module for apache. this
option is much less expensive then stronghold (raven is ~$400 while
stronghold is ~$1000) and comes as a module so I can still custom compile
apache (which, believe it or not, is what I want to do. I like to know
what went in to my binaries). 

so again, anyone using the above products on debian? any experience with
this whatsoever? any advice is much appreciated.

- John Kloss


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Re: after upgrading to hamm, ppp problems

1998-05-28 Thread Ed Cogburn
Rich Hartman wrote:
 
 Hello everyone:
 
 After many trials and tribulations, I have finally upgraded to
 hamm... First, I installed Debian 1.3 from CD, then immediately wrote
 my ppp script required to login to my server - worked great.
 Immediately upgraded to latest stable version, THEN immediately
 upgraded to hamm using autoup.sh.  All went well, except now when I
 try to use my ppp script, it doesn't work properly. I hear it dialing
 the modem AND connecting, but apparently the connection only lasts a
 couple of seconds (if I try to telnet, I get the error message
 hostname lookup failure). Keep in mind that nothing has changed (to
 my knowledge) in regards to the ppp script file (I also checked my
 resolv.conf file, while contains nameserver info, etc - it's still
 there and still has all info).
 
 One thing - perl, data-dumper and libnet-perl are not installed yet
 (for some reason, perl was not selected when I ran thru dselect)
 Could this be the reason?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Rich
 


(assuming you are using the Debian pon/poff scripts)

First of all, a couple of things should have changed.  Your chatscript, 
and
options_out file will have moved.  Look in /etc/chatscripts/ and /etc/ppp/
to see the changes.  One thing that I had to change was to add 'noauth' to
my options_out (now /etc/ppp/peer/provider).  /usr/doc/ppp/README.* will
explain this.  IIRC, I may have had to fiddle with the file permissions of
the new files (and new directories) to get everything working (if you run
pon/poff as root this doesn't matter).


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Re: Is there any program like ICQ ? Thanks ! ;)

1998-05-28 Thread Damon Muller
G'day,
 
  I really need ICQ cause some of my friends use it on Windoze and we like
 to know when someone are online! I think this is the better idea ! ;)

Just to follow up my earlier post, yes, there does seem to be a few ICQ
clients for Linux, although all of them seem to be unofficial and *very*
beta. I haven't personally used any of them yet, but I'll try one out
before much longer.

If you check out http://www.xtrophy.dk/xicq/ there is an GPL'd ICQ clone
with Linux source and binaries. 

Cheers,

damon
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Re: 3d pass through

1998-05-28 Thread Chris Zander
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On Thu, 28 May 1998, Ian Keith Setford wrote:
Yo-

I just got another machine which I would like to dual boot *grin* with
Winblows so I can have fun playing StarCraft and Unreal.  I would like to
get a 3dfx card.  Will linux care if the 3dfx card is installed?  I don't
wish to use the 3dfx card in linux just the regular pci card I already
have.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

-Ian 
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Unless you have a kernel earlier than I think 2.0.32 you will not notice your
3DFX card. Some older kernels complain about an unknown PCI device at boot  
time, which you might find annoying - besides that not even older kernels have
poroblems with 3DFX. 
I've been running a dual boot (LINUX/windoz) for the sake of gaming for several
month now - using a VOODOO2 card now, a VOODOO1 at first. I never encountered
poroblems.

If you wish to use it with Linux, this is not a problem either, since both
chipsets are supported (GLIDE for Linux is available). Together with the Mesa
libraries (OpenGL clone) you can play things like GLQuake QuakeII. 
It seems that the upcoming SIN will have a Linux port as well. Unreal does not
have a Linux port yet, however, there are efforts to make its developers create
one: http://www.voicenet.com/~shaitan/.
 

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Re: mutt not in color

1998-05-28 Thread Lee Bradshaw
On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 02:02:51AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 System: Linux 2.0.29 [using slang 9938]
 Compile options:
 -DOMAIN
 -HIDDEN_HOST  +HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK

It looks like you compiled this yourself on debian 1.3. I think you
should have -USE_FCNTL to match the way the rest of the debian mail
programs work. I think there is a command line option to configure, or
you can edit the file it produces.

I'm using mutt with ncurses1.9.9e. Yes, I need to upgrade, but
color works on the console with TERM=linux and on xterms with
TERM=xterm-color. There are some bugs with the color on the xterm, I
haven't used it enough on the console to know if there are bugs there as
well. I hope a new version of ncurses or switching to slang will get rid
of these bugs.

 +USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_RX  +HAVE_COLOR  -BUFFY_SIZE  -EXACT_ADDRESS
 SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
 MAILPATH=Mailbox
 SHAREDIR=/usr/local/lib
 ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell
 
 Mail bug reports along with this output to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
 Notice I compiled with slang.  Also, I have a recent terminfo database
 (Debian 1.3.1 installed).  My $TERM is set to linux.  I've also tried
 rxvt, colr_xterm, and xterm for the TERM variable.  mutt is not in
 color on the console nor in an xterm or rxvt term (under X).  I am NOT
 using screen.  I also tried explicitly setting the TERMINFO variable
 to my terminfo database path.  Nothing works.  It's nasty.
 
 Thanks
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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excel replacement

1998-05-28 Thread FRANCK . F . L . LEGALL
Hi,

I would like to know if there is some 'excel' like software under linux.
I would like it to be free and not to big: my modem will die if I try to
transfer some 30 Mo. Is there any one in debian  CDs ?

Thanks
Franck


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Re: is pam linux specific?

1998-05-28 Thread Ulisses Alonso Camaro
Hi again!

On Thu, 28 May 1998, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:

 On Thu, 28 May 1998, Ulisses Alonso wrote:
 
  that's the question...
 
 No.  At least Solaris uses it as well.  I believe Sun was the primary
 developer of pam.

I think that's great!

do you know if the API/admin issues are equal?

regards,

Ulisses
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Re: Does Debian support...

1998-05-28 Thread Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Rafal Gasiorek wrote:
 So does DEBIAN support this feature?

Yep.  Use the module configuration utility -- modconf? confmod? the
curses-based one you used to set the network and other modules...


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Cut and Paste/ Xirc?

1998-05-28 Thread Michael Acklin
Hello everyone,

I know this has been asked before, but just a quick browse of the
archives, I wasn't able to find. Wished there was a grep button on the
mailing list archves.:)

Ok, here's my question. What are the keys or commands to use cut and 
paste
in Xwindows? I know in WinBlows 95 it was CTL-X for cut, CTL-C for copy and
CTL-V for paste. In normal terminal within Linux I know I can highlight the
area with a mouse and it will put it in the buffer and hit the right mouse
button to paste it. I tried this in xterm and rxvt but didn't work for me.
I have a 2 button mouse configured to Emulate the Third Button with both
buttons pushed, but couldn't get anything work with any of the button combos.

I had just installed offix-clipboard and read the man on it and all it
talks about is the other application's ways of cutting and pasting, but not
how to do it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Also, has anyone else been able to get Xirc to run in Xwindows? I 
haven't
been able to run it at all. I keep getting an error message about the
display or something. I know that isn't much help, but my machine is at
home. I installed the Deb package and there were no problems or conflicts
that showed up. All the dependencies were filled as far as I could tell.

My system is Hamm, latest version as of the 26th of May. I have both the
libc6 and libc5 libraries installed with all the different dev's also.
(Libc5 is in the oldlibs config). Again thanks for any help




Mike Acklin
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Re: NT and Linux

1998-05-28 Thread Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
King Lee wrote:
1.   Has anyone here had any experience or knowledge
 about software raid. How good is it?
2.   Does Linux  support hardware raid 5

Just (re)found it!
http://www.osnews.com./features/04.98/raid.html

Very good reading indeed!  Enjoy and tell us what has come of it!

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Hamm upgrade

1998-05-28 Thread Richard Sevenich
Thanks to the several folks who helped me with several post-upgrade 
problems. These were related to getting my old libc5-compiled versions of
Applix and Netscape running. Although a libc6 version of Netscape is
available, I wanted to not spend money for a newer Applix even if available
at least at this time.

The basic approach that worked was to attempt to start the application
from a terminal window within kde. It might fail with a message such as
can't load library 'whatever'
I would then find the appropriate debian package via
dpkg -S whatever
then get that from the debian site and install it.

After a few such iterations everything was happy.

Thanks again,
Richard


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Setting clock time

1998-05-28 Thread M.C. Vernon
Dear Debian users,

I'm trying to get my sysclock set again from the hwclock. The HWclock is
in GMT, but I want the sysclock to be in BST. I've RTFM, but I'm not
getting anywhere - it refuses to add the hour. Any ideas?


Thanks,

Matthew


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/mcv21# date
Thu May 28 14:59:05 BST 1998
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/mcv21# hwclock --show
Thu May 28 14:59:12 1998  -0.147667 seconds
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/mcv21# hwclock --utc --hctosys --test --debug
Using /dev/rtc interface to clock.
Waiting for clock tick...
...got clock tick
Time read from Hardware Clock: 15:01:16
Hw clock time : 15:01:16 = 896367676 seconds since 1969
Calling settimeofday:
tv.tv_sec = 896367676, tv.tv_usec = 0
Not setting system clock because running in test mode.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/mcv21# hwclock --hctosys --test --debug
Using /dev/rtc interface to clock.
Waiting for clock tick...
...got clock tick
Time read from Hardware Clock: 15:01:41
Hw clock time : 15:01:41 = 896364101 seconds since 1969
Calling settimeofday:
tv.tv_sec = 896364101, tv.tv_usec = 0
Not setting system clock because running in test mode.


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Re: File-system on tape

1998-05-28 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Tue, May 26, 1998 at 10:15:58PM -0600, Lazar Fleysher wrote:
  Is it possible to create a file system on a tape drive ( like on
  mainframes) and use it as a disk? I know it is very slow, but is it
  possible?
 
  That is really very sick and twisted to even think of such a thing...
  hmm I wonder why I never thought of it :)

 QIC tapes (FTAPE) use the floppy disk controller and are formatted like
 floppy disks with 'tracks' and 'sectors' and so are block replaceable.
 This means that they CAN hold a random access file system just like disks,
 only SLOWER.

Don't be too sure. Most tape drives only allow to write appending to the *end* 
of
any data already written, so even if random positioning is possible the device 
is
fairly useless. If you have to rewrite a block on the filesystem you would not
be able to go back and rewrite over where it was before without losing any data
after it. Does this mean it would not be possible to write a filesystem which
would exist on a tape? No. It does mean that such a filesystem (especially on a
low-capacity low-bandwith device like QIC over a floppy interface) would be
nearly useless.

I'm speaking here from experience because I have a home-grown backup solution
where I wanted to be able to write a fixed length tape label onto the beginning
of each tape and rewrite it each time I added another file onto the tape. I was
very disappointed to learn that this was not possible.

  QIC tapes have from 20 to 80 parallel tracks on them,
 switching tracks is done by moving the head up and down (just like the old
 8 track tapes).  DEC made a QIC tape drive called DEC-TAPE II that
 interfaced with an rs-232 link.  It was random access (just like the
 original dec-tape), each tape holding about as much as an old 8 SSSD
 floppy.
 I remember running the dungeon (aka zork) game on an lsi-11 (pdp-11/03)
 machine with dual dec tape II drives.  Yuchk was it slow!

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Fresh install woes.

1998-05-28 Thread Tom Shorock
I am a quite experienced UNIX tweaker, so I may be able to kludge this on
my own, but.

A. I have not the time
B. I'd like normal users to install hamm reasonably.

Anyway, I am freshly installing a hamm system using the current boot
disks.  I have base2_0.tgz, and the rescue-driver disk images on a
separate hard drive.  I am doing the rest of the install via FTP. That is
not the problem.  The problem is that after the base install, var is
virtually empty.  This includes the directories that dselect needs, utmp,
and many other important things.  dselect fails miserably when it cannot
find its methods directory and such.  

Anybody else with this problem?  Am I just skimming these discussions too
fast?


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Re: Where can i get this

1998-05-28 Thread Mario Filipe

On 28-May-98 Bonard B. Timmons III wrote:
 Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 You need a newer version of makeinfo; or more to the point a newer
 texinfo.tex (which comes with makeinfo).  I had thought that distributing a
 texinfo.tex which matches texi files in the same directory would be enough
 here... but gtk+ does supply a good one, so I guess not =(O|
 
 So where can i find these makeinfo and textinfo.tex ???
 
 According to dpkg -S makeinfo and dpkg -S texinfo.tex we have
 tetex-bin: /usr/bin/makeinfo
 tetex-base: /usr/lib/texmf/tex/texinfo/texinfo.tex.
 
 So it looks like you need to install tetex-bin and tetex-base. I
 forgot whether these packages are in bo, but bo certainly does have
 some type of tex packages.

Acording to my system it's in the package textinfo. Wich means i have
to upgrade my tex packages, wich brings another question. Dselect says that the
tex packages i have are obsolete. should i deinstall them and install the new
ones or is there another way to do it?

And don't forget... we are talking about bo

Thanks

Mario Filipe
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Word for Linux

1998-05-28 Thread Kevin
Is there a *.doc (MS Word) viewer / converter for linux  is it a deb  
pkg?

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Re: Word for Linux

1998-05-28 Thread aqy6633
 Is there a *.doc (MS Word) viewer / converter for linux  is it a deb  
 pkg?

http://www.csn.ul.ie/~caolan/docs/MSWordView.html

Alex Y.

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