fetchmail
Hola: reinstale debian 1.3.1 hace 12 dias. Configuré el sendmail y el fetchmail segun el Sendmail +fetchmail como La primera instalacion no me dieron ningun problema ni uno ni el otro. Pero ahora fetchmail no me baja los mensajes. Se conectacon el servidor pop3 acepta el name y el pass me dice los mensajes que hay y al empezar adescargar el primero me daba un error smpt. De lo que deduzco que el error está en el sendmail o en algun rincon del sistema. Despues de tocar varias cosas (ni lo se) ha dejado de darme el error smpt y simplemente se para al empezar con el primer mensaje. El .fetchmail.rc es correcto, constatado Supongo que con lo que digo es suficiente. No os pongo el .fetchmailrc ni el sendmail.cf, por que escribo esto desde win (que remmedio) y los tendria que picar a mano pero si hace falta lo pico. Ewtoy seguro que deve ser una chorrada ¿pero cual? Estoy desesperado, urge ayuda Gracias y un saludo. Ricardo Lloret [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Iomega ZIP 100 por puerto paralelo
On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 06:23:39PM +0200, J. Parera wrote: compilar el kernel uso make menuconfig en el cual se puede obserbar que tiene opciones diferentes a mi anterior kernel por lo que agradecería a que si alguien ha conseguido compilar el kernel con soporte para la ZIP (a ser posible no compilado como modulo) me dijese que opciones ha puesto. (resolviste lo de NLS? Te mande un mensaje, pero *creo* que me reboto) Debes poner: Parallel Port Support PC-Style Hardware (SCSI) Iomega Parallel Port ZIP drive SCSI support y creo que eso era... Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
glibc 2.0.7r-2
Hola a la lista... Estoy cotilleando el codigo fuente de glibc 2.0.7r-2, y he visto que lleva unos parches para reemplazar a libgdbmg1-dev. ¿Se podria decir lo mismo del paquete libgdbmg1, y por tanto se podrian desintstalar los paquetes libgdbmg1 y ligdbmg1-dev? Saludos. P.D. ¿Sabe alguien de algun distribuidor en España que disponga ya de la Debian 2.0? Angel Vicente Perez Dpto. Informática KNIPPING ESPAÑA S.A. Tfno. +34-1-6070-311 Fax +34-1-6070-331 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
instalar tarjeta de red con driver de ELF1.2.13
Buenas a todos, Tengo una tarjeta de red CeLAN PCI (EPCIPlus), con el chip RTL8029, Esta no aparece en la lista de tarjetas de mi Debian 1.3.1 y buscando por la red encontré un driver ... Lin8029.tar. Lo desempaquete en un directorio y vi que contenía lo siguiente: arch/i386/config.in drivers/net/makefile drivers/net/space.c drivers/net/rtl8029.c Coloque el space.c y el rtl8029 en mi drivers/net y modifique mi /net/config.in con la linea bool 'RTL 8029 ... que copie del config.in que venia (no copie todo el archivo porque no me pareció prudente) y no copie el space.c (ya había uno en el directorio). Tras esto recompile el núcleo pero me da un error (una referencia inexistente) y no crea la imagen. ¿ Sabría alguien decirme que he hecho mal ? y ¿ Sabéis si en la 2.0 se soportan tarjetas RealTek ? Gracias de antemano, Saludos, Narcís. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: glibc 2.0.7r-2
On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 12:38:54PM +0200, Angel Vicente Perez wrote: P.D. ¿Sabe alguien de algun distribuidor en España que disponga ya de la Debian 2.0? ¡Ojo! La Debian 2.0 todavía no existe. Sólo existe la Beta. -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: instalar tarjeta de red con driver de ELF1.2.13
On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 01:36:35PM +0200, Narcis wrote: ¿ Sabría alguien decirme que he hecho mal ? y ¿ Sabéis si en la 2.0 se soportan tarjetas RealTek ? Están soportadas en el kernel 2.0.34. Ese kernel es el que viene en la 2.0, pero también lo puedes recompilar tú mismo para tu Debian 1.3.1. Saludos, -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 ethernet cards (more ...)
On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 12:08:07PM -0700, Philippe BARBELET wrote: Hi Debian friends, I have 2 ISA 3C509 ethernet cards in my PC. At boot time, the system says : 3c509: WARNING! Module load-time probing works reliably only for EISA and MCA bus!! loading device 'eth0'... eth0: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address 00 20 af 34 e8 44, IRQ 3. 3c509.c:1.07 6/15/95 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My lilo.conf file is correctly configured : append=ether=0,0,eth1 but the system doesn't see the second card. I think that the probing test doesn't work correctly. If I put just 1 card at a time, the card is always recognized. IIRC, the kernel boot paramaters only work if the driver is compiled into the kernel. If you are compiling it as a module (eg default Debian setup) you need to edit /etc/conf.modules and add a line like: ``options 3c509 io=0xAAA,0xBBB irq=CC,DD'' where 0xAAA and CC are for eth0, and 0xBBB and DD are for eth1. Note that I'm not certain about the specific parameters, you might want to read the driver source if it dosen't work- alternatively, you could just recompile your kernel with the 3c509 driver in the kernel instead of a module. -- __ | ian eure, network admin, freelance security consultant, and | | manically depressed paranoid schizophrenic, at your service. | ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://minion.org ; : raw speed = 105.6 wpm with 4.5% errors : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.0 Beta Party...
On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 12:19:45PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Marcus Brinkmann wrote: We already *did* get rid of most of the bugs, otherwise we wouldn't even release a beta. The point is that we think it is quite stable now, and can be recommended to users who can't wait any day longer. Here's a question for you. I'm running 1.3r8. I ran off the unstable tree for a long long time until the libc6 stuff started, then I held back. Now that hamm is ready to go, isn't the current unstable even better for people who normally feel the unstable tree is OK for them? Why? Slink is mainly identical to hamm, the only differences is C++ development, apt, lintian, cruft, a few other packages. Well, there are two things one should keep in mind: 1) An upgrade to hamm is a complete upgrade of at least the base system. Better you upgrade all installed packages, to get a clean libc6 system. This means, it is hard to *revert* the upgrade. 2) An upgrade to slink can be incremental. One package, two packages, downgrading the other one that is not working to the version in hamm again, all of this without a problem (there are exceptions, though). This means, once you are in the hamm world, slink can be used like bo could be used on a rexx system. The current unstable (=slink) is probably buggy because not well tested (probably not tested at all). However, this is Debian: You have the freedom and possibility to choose everything between cutting edge and rock stable. Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
older debian release?
hi, i've got what may seem a strange request.. i'm looking for an older release of debian. i have a laptop w/ only 2MB RAM and i've been told that one of the older releases of debian will run under 2MB. none of the older releases are on the main ftp sites (so far as i can tell) and doing a web search only returns what are basically press releases that point to directories on the ftp sites that don't exist any more. and just to stave off the usual responses i get, i know that i won't be able to do much with only 2MB, but i'm only interested in a base install anyway, i use my main machine for all the big stuff. thanks, peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2.1.x kernels and depmod
After changing two hamm boxes to my first 2.1.x kernels (2.1.106), I find that there is no mention in /lib/modules/2.1.106/modules.dep of a dependency on 8390.o by ne.o. It just shows:- /lib/modules/2.1.106/net/ne.o: instead of:_ /lib/modules/2.1.106/net/ne.o: /lib/modules/2.1.106/net/8390.o If I add the dependency by hand the ne module loads just fine. But if I then run depmod -a again I am back to square 1. I guess I have missed something along the way. Any ideas? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj Debian Linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Beta on CD?
Is the 2.0 beta available as a CD image? I'd like to try it, but I really need it to be on a CD. $ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beta on CD?
Will French wrote: Is the 2.0 beta available as a CD image? I'd like to try it, but I really need it to be on a CD. Try http://www.netgod.net/, it lists a couple of vendors. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Postgres, php question
On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 07:51:19AM -0400, Paul McDermott wrote: hello my debian user friends, I've installed Postgres.deb, php3.deb, apache.deb and www-pgsql from the slink area. I've done the postgres tutorial and it was great. Now i want to start on makeing a web interface for a database i put together. I read through the documentation, but i am confused. Is there a tutorial for the php3 program? If so where can i That's why I got in to www-sql in the first place -- it is easier to use/learn than php but is less flexible as a result. I have done some reasonably advanced stuff with www-sql and have created some big messes to do it. I haven't found a reason to switch to php yet. I mix it with shtml. Hamish (www-mysql/www-pgsql maintainer) -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diald w/ dynamic ip address
Pann McCuaig said Can someone point me to a sample configuration of diald when the caller's ip address is dynamically assigned by the ISP? Here's my /etc/diald/diald.connect from a system that's got dynamic IP: fifo /var/lib/diald/diald.fifo mode ppp connect sh /etc/diald/connect device /dev/ttyS0 speed 115200 modem lock crtscts local 127.0.0.3 remote 127.0.0.2 dynamic defaultroute pppd-options asyncmap 0 include /usr/lib/diald/standard.filter I've read the fine manual but the sample configuration file is for a fixed ip address and I can't find enough hints to make things work correctly. This one seems to be working fine - let me know if you need more help. TIA, Pann stick -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Practical Network DesignVoice: +1-419-529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:+1-419-529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1301 USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Two 'gcc's? Yea or Nay?
As is my wont, I experiment with stuff on an old RH4.2 install (except as noted recently in this venue, my foray in Gnomeification-From-Source, which I carried out wily-nily on this Debian 1.3 system). I recently built from source, on the olde RH, egcs 1.0.2; said build process is certainly a sight to behold! egcs installed its binary into /usr/local/bin. So, depending on which path is active (su or user) I get either GNU gcc or egcs when I bang 'gcc' into the keyboard. I would like to put egcs on this Debian 1.3 system (which, with the imminent release of 2.0 CD's will most likely become my next experimental victim) but it now occurs to me to ask what caveats I should observe upon accomplishing that. Should I rename /usr/bin/gcc (the GNU gcc) and then put a symlink in that dir to point to /usr/local/bin/gcc? Perhaps there are other changes I ought to make? It occurs to me that perhaps during some 'make install' - when I have become su - that I might befuddle something via installing it with GNU gcc after I have built it with egcs' gcc. Does this make any sense at all? Ruminations, reminiscences, reproaches, all gladly examined! TIA. n--e--u--t--r--i--n--of--e--v--e--r--!- Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brainiac.com/bernie at Esmond, R.I. ftp://rupturedduck.dyn.ml.org (sometimes) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Partitioning/Dual Booting
I'm a newby to the whole Linux/GNU/Debian system, being a long-time MS devotee, and although I am very close to being sold on getting it, I have a couple of questions to clear up first. 1: In the FAQ, section 3.4 http://www.us.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-3.html#ss3.4 states that one should partition a 1.6 GB hard disk with the following partitions: 30 MBytes for the root directory (/) 450 MBytes for /usr 50 MBytes for swap space 1000 MBytes for home directories (some of this could be used for /usr/local/) 0 MBytes for /tmp; make /tmp a symbolic link to /var/tmp 40 MBytes for /var Pardon my ignorance, or mayhaps it's the ambiguity of the whole section, but does this mean I need five separate partitions on the single disk, or (more likely, methinks) does it mean that the single partition consists of 1570 MBytes? Any clarification would be most appreciated. Also, seeing as how I _am_ new to the idea, I would very much like to perform a dual boot between Win95/MS-DOS, and Debian/GNU Linux operating systems. Seems like somewhere in the dark recesses of the PC World archives there's a miniscule article about dual-booting between 2 or more OSes, but I've since lost/given away the issue, and I'd like to hear it from a user more experienced than myself in the area. Again, help is most appreciated. Thanks in advance, M. Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two 'gcc's? Yea or Nay?
Read the FAQ for egcs, it describes how to install and still have gcc. Don't worry, I had a simular but unlrelated FAQ reading problem with egcs recently too... :) Here's what I did (Still read the FAQ to make sure the gist is right) configure egcs like so: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/egcs when you install, this will make a directory egcs in /usr/local. then I went into /usr/local/bin and symlinked the binaries so I could have both gcc and egcc (what I called the symlink for egcs's version of gcc). cd /usr/local/bin ln -s /usr/local/egcs/bin/gcc egcc ln -s /usr/local/egcs/bin/g++ eg++ ln -s /usr/local/egcs/bin/c++ egc++ ln -s /usr/local/egcs/bin/g77 eg77 That's it, it seems to work for me. Anybody out there see any caveats in my technique? Bob Bernstein wrote: As is my wont, I experiment with stuff on an old RH4.2 install (except as noted recently in this venue, my foray in Gnomeification-From-Source, which I carried out wily-nily on this Debian 1.3 system). I recently built from source, on the olde RH, egcs 1.0.2; said build process is certainly a sight to behold! egcs installed its binary into /usr/local/bin. So, depending on which path is active (su or user) I get either GNU gcc or egcs when I bang 'gcc' into the keyboard. I would like to put egcs on this Debian 1.3 system (which, with the imminent release of 2.0 CD's will most likely become my next experimental victim) but it now occurs to me to ask what caveats I should observe upon accomplishing that. Should I rename /usr/bin/gcc (the GNU gcc) and then put a symlink in that dir to point to /usr/local/bin/gcc? Perhaps there are other changes I ought to make? It occurs to me that perhaps during some 'make install' - when I have become su - that I might befuddle something via installing it with GNU gcc after I have built it with egcs' gcc. Does this make any sense at all? Ruminations, reminiscences, reproaches, all gladly examined! TIA. n--e--u--t--r--i--n--of--e--v--e--r--!- Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brainiac.com/bernie at Esmond, R.I. ftp://rupturedduck.dyn.ml.org (sometimes) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
speed improvements for a low end system
I'm in the process of replacing my computer's role with an old computer, to give my system more freedom (I don't have to be up all the time!). Anyone have any software suggestions on how I can improve the speed on my old 486DX/33 (8 ram, 1 ide, 2 old scsi drives, PS/1 w/ 8k i-cache!)? This computer is only used for the following services: * telnet (only for password changes, all shells are /usr/bin/passwd) * html (running apache) * pop3 (also running qmail, running from inetd) * smtp (currently running qmail, running as a daemon) * dns (running bind) * ip masquerading (local - internet, both 10mbit ethernet connections) - nothing is done locally (except for some administration) I listed the services in order of how fast they run (first being the slowest, and last the fastest) -- this isn't a heavly used system, but when multiple events occur at the same time, it becomes extremely slow. I want to remove all processes that take lots of cpu time and memory. Recompiling the kernel is also something I'm interested in -- what takes cpu time/memory in the kernel? Experimenting with this is too slow; it takes several hours to recompile! Please don't send me messages saying that my system is too slow, and I should upgrade. I put that machine together from scraps lying around the house. I may upgrade it to a Cyrix 133+ or 166+ if I can find a motherboard. Thanks -Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
program to switch consoles?
I'm looking for a program to switch the displayed console after my system finishes booting (from tty1 to tty2). Why? I use tty1 for logging in and tty2 for syslog messages, and I'd like to see the output by default after my system boots. -Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote: Michael Beattie wrote: Just wondering, is it safe to '_' the following packages??? --- Removed and no longer available packages --- - Removed Required packages - --- Removed Required packages in section base --- --- Req base timezone 7.55-2 none [snip] Generally speaking, its not a good idea to remove parts of the required base. You, never know what future prog will break because timezone isn't there. IMHO, leave timezone in. Hmm, okay... thanks. I just realised that they werent '_' but '-' , and after an upgrade to hamm, I thought they wouldn't be needed at all.. I'll leave em alone until debian 5.0 when they conflict with something :) Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - Computers are not intelligent. They just think they are. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: program to switch consoles?
On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Paul Miller wrote: I'm looking for a program to switch the displayed console after my system finishes booting (from tty1 to tty2). Why? I use tty1 for logging in and tty2 for syslog messages, and I'd like to see the output by default after my system boots. -Paul chvt package: kbd Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - WinErr: 011 Illegal error - You are not allowed to get this error. Next time you will get a penalty for that. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Thinkpad question
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Paul Johnson wrote: Once the floppies are used on bootup, I believe they are not needed again (Makes a ramdisk). So you would boot with the floppy, and do that stuff, then put CD drive in when it asks for it.. I guess I didn't make myself clear. You cannot hot-swap the CD-ROM and Floppy drives, so if you boot from the floppy, you can't put the CD in because there is no CD-ROM DRIVE in the machine. If you turn off the ThinkPad and install the CD-ROM DRIVE, you cannot boot from the floppy. Catch 22. My Apologies, I meant as Brandon's reply did.. once the boot floppies are finished, there is no need for them. A reboot, and ta da. I forgot that the floppies themselves install a base system... I did it 9 months ago.. Gosh thats a long time! :) Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - It works fine except when I am in Windows. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Postgres, php question
On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 12:27:56PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 07:51:19AM -0400, Paul McDermott wrote: hello my debian user friends, I've installed Postgres.deb, php3.deb, apache.deb and www-pgsql from the slink area. I've done the postgres tutorial and it was great. Now i want to start on makeing a web interface for a database i put together. I read through the documentation, but i am confused. Is there a tutorial for the php3 program? If so where can i That's why I got in to www-sql in the first place -- it is easier to use/learn than php but is less flexible as a result. I have done some reasonably advanced stuff with www-sql and have created some big messes to do it. FWIW, I read the beginning of this thread this morning, then installed php3 and php3-pgsql, and now have some wickedly nice code. I don't know how I ever lived without php3 before! It is so sweet! I've already replaced most of my shtml and CGI with it. The learning curve is very short if you know C. If anyone needs any specific help, please let me know. To make php3-pgsql work, you have to enable it in /etc/php3.ini. Then you just do simple stuff like: ? $db=pg_connect(dbname); $res=pg_exec(select foo from bar); $rows = pg_NumRows ($res); echo(select returned $res rows.); ... etc ... ? and so on. I still haven't done a form with it yet, but that's next on my agenda. One of the niftier things you can do is write functions and include them from any web page... I'm impressed. It's fast, too. Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitioning/Dual Booting
* M. Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 1: In the FAQ, section 3.4 | http://www.us.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-3.html#ss3.4 states that one | should partition a 1.6 GB hard disk with the following partitions: | | ?30 MBytes for the root directory (/) | ?450 MBytes for /usr | ?50 MBytes for swap space | ?1000 MBytes for home directories (some of this could be used for | /usr/local/) | ?0 MBytes for /tmp; make /tmp a symbolic link to /var/tmp | ?40 MBytes for /var | | Pardon my ignorance, or mayhaps it's the ambiguity of the whole section, | but does this mean I need five separate partitions on the single disk, or | (more likely, methinks) does it mean that the single partition consists of | 1570 MBytes? Any clarification would be most appreciated. No, you do not _need_ five partitions. Two partitions will do just fine (one for swap and one for linux). The idea of many partitions is mainly for security (if one partition crashes, it needn't affect the others). For a beginner it might be just as easy to go with two partitions (you don't have to have a swap partition, but it's nice). BTW: These sizes add up to more than 1.6 GB. :-) | Also, seeing as how I _am_ new to the idea, I would very much like to | perform a dual boot between Win95/MS-DOS, and Debian/GNU Linux operating | systems. Seems like somewhere in the dark recesses of the PC World | archives there's a miniscule article about dual-booting between 2 or more | OSes, but I've since lost/given away the issue, and I'd like to hear it | from a user more experienced than myself in the area. There are several ways to do this. One option is to use as program called loadlin. It allows you to load linux from dos, so you don't have to mess with boot-sectors. Just boot as usual to dos and run loadlin from there. Another way is to use lilo. Lilo installs a boot-block that allows you to choose between linux and win/dos when you boot. -- Ole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitioning/Dual Booting
M. Phillips wrote: I'm a newby to the whole Linux/GNU/Debian system, being a long-time MS devotee, and although I am very close to being sold on getting it, I have a couple of questions to clear up first. 1: In the FAQ, section 3.4 http://www.us.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-3.html#ss3.4 states that one should partition a 1.6 GB hard disk with the following partitions: 30 MBytes for the root directory (/) 450 MBytes for /usr 50 MBytes for swap space 1000 MBytes for home directories (some of this could be used for /usr/local/) 0 MBytes for /tmp; make /tmp a symbolic link to /var/tmp 40 MBytes for /var Pardon my ignorance, or mayhaps it's the ambiguity of the whole section, but does this mean I need five separate partitions on the single disk, or (more likely, methinks) does it mean that the single partition consists of 1570 MBytes? Any clarification would be most appreciated. This is indeed 5 partitions. The swap partition is used as a runtime memory extension; the other partitions separate out parts of the directory tree to limit the extent of damage in case of any disaster. If one filesystem gets corrupted, the others should still be OK. Also, seeing as how I _am_ new to the idea, I would very much like to perform a dual boot between Win95/MS-DOS, and Debian/GNU Linux operating systems. Seems like somewhere in the dark recesses of the PC World archives there's a miniscule article about dual-booting between 2 or more OSes, but I've since lost/given away the issue, and I'd like to hear it from a user more experienced than myself in the area. When you install Debian, you can get dual booting by using LILO. This is my config file (/etc/lilo.conf): boot=/dev/hda3 root=/dev/hda3 compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=50 # Linux - 2.0.32 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.32 label=linux append=mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra read-only # Linux - 2.0.33 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.33 label=linux2033 append=mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra read-only # Win 95 other=/dev/hda1 label=w95 This particular configuration allows me to boot Linux with either of two kernel versions; it also allows for Windows95. Important! 1 After changing /etc/lilo.conf, and especially after changing the kernel, you must run /sbin/lilo to update the boot map. 2 Install any Microsoft product first; Microsoft has no respect for the presence of any other OS and is liable to overwrite the boot sector. 3 Make sure you have a rescue floppy or a bootable CD. If you don't want to risk using LILO you can boot Linux from inside DOS with LOADLIN.EXE. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Honor thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise; That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth. Ephesians 6:2,3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pppd 2.3 oddity. Help me, dammit! :)
Howdy, I recently [ie, 6am this morning] upgraded one of my bo boxes to hamm, via apt-get [which I must say is incredibly cool.. ] Everything seems ok, except for ppp. It doesn't want to work anymore. I'd be happy if that were the end of the story, it'd mean that I was doing something wrong. See, the problem is, it doesn't work on _some_ providers. A little detail.. I dialin to a provider and authenticate via PAP. This was fine up until I upgraded ppp. It doesn't authenticate anymore. I've tried it on other providers and the same story... except when I dial into another hamm box. Everything's fine then. It works like a charm. # dpkg -l |grep ppp ii ppp 2.3.5-2Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. ii ppp-pam 2.3.5-2Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon with Heres what the logs have to say (sorry, this is gunna have to be verbose) [non-hamm box] Jun 25 14:25:18 apathy pppd[837]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0 Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: abort on (BUSY) Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: abort on (VOICE) Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: send (ATDT18319577^M) Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: expect (CONNECT) Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: %-u^M *** chat seems to spit out random chars like above, but thats another story *** I suspect.. Jun 25 14:25:45 apathy chat[838]: ATDT18319577^M^M Jun 25 14:25:45 apathy chat[838]: CONNECT Jun 25 14:25:45 apathy chat[838]: -- got it Jun 25 14:25:45 apathy chat[838]: send (^M) Jun 25 14:25:45 apathy pppd[837]: Serial connection established. Jun 25 14:25:46 apathy pppd[837]: Using interface ppp0 Jun 25 14:25:46 apathy pppd[837]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 Jun 25 14:25:46 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0x084d pcomp accomp] Jun 25 14:25:49 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0x084d pcomp accomp] Jun 25 14:25:49 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 asyncmap 0xa auth pap magic 0x49bd0596 pcomp accomp] Jun 25 14:25:49 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x3 asyncmap 0xa auth pap magic 0x49bd0596 pcomp accomp] Jun 25 14:25:52 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4 asyncmap 0xa auth pap magic 0x49bd0596 pcomp accomp] Jun 25 14:25:52 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x4 asyncmap 0xa auth pap magic 0x49bd0596 pcomp accomp] Jun 25 14:25:52 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0x084d pcomp accomp] Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0x084d pcomp accomp] Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x5 asyncmap 0xa auth pap magic 0x49bd1d10 pcomp accomp] Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x5 asyncmap 0xa auth pap magic 0x49bd1d10 pcomp accomp] Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0x084d pcomp accomp] Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x084d] Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user=username password=password] Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x49bd1d10] Jun 25 14:25:58 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ] Jun 25 14:25:58 apathy pppd[837]: Remote message: Jun 25 14:26:25 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x084d] Jun 25 14:26:25 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x49bd1d10] Jun 25 14:26:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x2 magic=0x084d] Jun 25 14:26:55 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x2 magic=0x49bd1d10] Jun 25 14:27:25 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x3 magic=0x084d] Jun 25 14:27:25 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x3 magic=0x49bd1d10] Jun 25 14:27:55 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x6] Jun 25 14:27:55 apathy pppd[837]: LCP terminated by peer Jun 25 14:27:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x6] Jun 25 14:27:55 apathy pppd[837]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Jun 25 14:27:55 apathy pppd[837]: Modem hangup Jun 25 14:27:55 apathy pppd[837]: Connection terminated. This happens with every single provider, with the exception of hamm boxes, which looks like this: [hamm box] Jun 25 13:46:52 apathy pppd[639]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 Jun 25 13:46:52 apathy pppd[639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0xfffb pcomp accomp] Jun 25 13:46:53 apathy pppd[639]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 auth pap magic 0x0382 pcomp accomp] Jun 25 13:46:53 apathy pppd[639]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 auth pap magic 0x0382 pcomp accomp] Jun 25 13:46:55 apathy pppd[639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0xfffb pcomp accomp] Jun 25 13:46:55 apathy pppd[639]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0xfffb pcomp accomp] Jun 25 13:46:55 apathy pppd[639]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xfffb] Jun 25
changing module parameters
The Debian install (from floppies; CD is in the mail, couldn't wait g) went smoothly; a lot more smoothly than RedHat. The only hitch was that the ethernet was not installed correctly until the second try, and the first try's settings were stuck in some file (Running... says look for an .RC file, but none I can find has the settings in it), which I can't find. I know the correct settings, but would appreciate being pointed toward the file. I guess I could do it at the boot: prompt, but I'd really like to find the file and change it once and for-all. I know the module (ne) and can see it listed in lilo.conf, but can't find where the settings are stored. The grand scheme of things is to FTP the rest of the stuff; this being an interesting way to create a cable-modem IP Masquerade/Diald (1-way cable modem, requires regular modem in addition) box for the network, which will eventually FTP through _it_. s Compliments to the folks who wrote the setup. The network setup, in particular, is much clearer than RedHat 5.1. Also the installation of modules, and explanation of parameters, is much clearer (in fact, in the case of MCD and MCDX, clearer than the docs in the modules section of the installation doc at Sunsite). TIA, Hank Fay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: changing module parameters
Oops -- the info on modules to be loaded was in /etc/modules -- but no info on the parameters being passed. -Original Message- From: Hank Fay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 1:36 AM To: Debian-User (E-mail) Subject: changing module parameters The Debian install (from floppies; CD is in the mail, couldn't wait g) went smoothly; a lot more smoothly than RedHat. The only hitch was that the ethernet was not installed correctly until the second try, and the first try's settings were stuck in some file (Running... says look for an .RC file, but none I can find has the settings in it), which I can't find. I know the correct settings, but would appreciate being pointed toward the file. I guess I could do it at the boot: prompt, but I'd really like to find the file and change it once and for-all. I know the module (ne) and can see it listed in lilo.conf, but can't find where the settings are stored. The grand scheme of things is to FTP the rest of the stuff; this being an interesting way to create a cable-modem IP Masquerade/Diald (1-way cable modem, requires regular modem in addition) box for the network, which will eventually FTP through _it_. s Compliments to the folks who wrote the setup. The network setup, in particular, is much clearer than RedHat 5.1. Also the installation of modules, and explanation of parameters, is much clearer (in fact, in the case of MCD and MCDX, clearer than the docs in the modules section of the installation doc at Sunsite). TIA, Hank Fay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printing man pages
Hi, Alex == [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anyone explain me how can i print a man page? Is there any utility program for this? Alex You may convert the source of the man page to postscript file Alex and then print it, like: Alex zcat /usr/man/man1/ls.1.gz | groff -tmandoc -T ps ls.ps You can do this directly using man, for example, __ man -Tdvi foo.1x ./foo.1x.dvi __ man -Tps man | lpr -T device, --troff-device [=device] This option is used to change groff (or possibly troff's) output to be suitable for a device other than the default. It implies -t. Examples (pro vided with Groff-1.09) include dvi, latin1, X75 and X100. manoj -- The clothes have no emperor. -- C. A. Hoare, about Ada. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: speed improvements for a low end system
On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Paul Miller wrote: I want to remove all processes that take lots of cpu time and memory. Recompiling the kernel is also something I'm interested in -- what takes cpu time/memory in the kernel? Experimenting with this is too slow; it takes several hours to recompile! Then recompile it on your fast machine and use the kernel-package to ship it over : Remove -everything- you don't need to clear off space. A big kernel needs big ram. You can get better telnet speed by removing tcpd and look at boa for http. Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing module parameters
On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 01:52:11AM -0400, Hank Fay wrote: Oops -- the info on modules to be loaded was in /etc/modules -- but no info on the parameters being passed. You want /etc/conf.modules. my ne otions line is: options ne io=0x340 -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do I get exim to work?
Hallo, After a discussion on this list some time ago on exim, I decided to try out exim once again and once again I could not get it to work. I use Debian 1.3.1. I have a dialup system and use fetchmail an procmail normally with smail. After running eximconfig and answering the questions as close as possible to that of smailconfig, I tried it out. The first effort to get mail from the ISP failed with the message that /etc/exim.conf has the wrong owner, group or permissions. Then I changed the permissions to 644 and tried again. Here is a copy of what appeared on the screen: Script started on Thu Jun 25 08:27:13 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED](1)$ ses /home/jhspies/.netrc:1: warning: found login before any host names /home/jhspies/.netrc:2: warning: found password before any host names fetchmail: 3.8.0 querying alpha.futurenet.co.za (protocol POP3) at Thu Jun 25 08:28:01 1998 popclient: POP3 +OK IMS POP3 Server 0.87 Ready [EMAIL PROTECTED] popclient: POP3 USER jhspies popclient: POP3 +OK jhspies is welcome here popclient: POP3 PASS * popclient: POP3 +OK jhspies's mailbox has 9 message(s) (86582 octets) popclient: POP3 STAT popclient: POP3 +OK 9 86582 popclient: POP3 LAST popclient: POP3 +OK 0 popclient: 9 messages at [EMAIL PROTECTED] popclient: POP3 RETR 1 popclient: POP3 +OK 5698 octets reading message 1 (5698 bytes) popclient: SMTP connect to (null) failed popclient: POP3 QUIT popclient: POP3 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- popclient: SMTP transaction error while fetching from alpha.futurenet.co.za fetchmail: normal termination, status 9 ppp0 link terminated 1998-06-25 08:28:04 Exim configuration file /etc/exim.conf has the wrong owner, group, or mode -- At this stage I changed the permissions of /etc/exim.conf to 644 and tried again with the following result: /home/jhspies/.netrc:1: warning: found login before any host names /home/jhspies/.netrc:2: warning: found password before any host names fetchmail: 3.8.0 querying alpha.futurenet.co.za (protocol POP3) at Thu Jun 25 08:30:43 1998 popclient: POP3 +OK IMS POP3 Server 0.87 Ready [EMAIL PROTECTED] popclient: POP3 USER jhspies popclient: POP3 +OK jhspies is welcome here popclient: POP3 PASS * popclient: POP3 +OK jhspies's mailbox has 9 message(s) (86582 octets) popclient: POP3 STAT popclient: POP3 +OK 9 86582 popclient: POP3 LAST popclient: POP3 +OK 0 popclient: 9 messages at [EMAIL PROTECTED] popclient: POP3 RETR 1 popclient: POP3 +OK 5698 octets reading message 1 (5698 bytes) popclient: SMTP connect to (null) failed popclient: POP3 QUIT popclient: POP3 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- popclient: SMTP transaction error while fetching from alpha.futurenet.co.za fetchmail: normal termination, status 9 ppp0 link terminated -- About two years ago, when I was a total newcomer to Linux, I could install smail and use it. I have now after about 6 efforts not be able to install exim successfully. Can somebody help me, please? In the mean time, I am going back to smail now. Johann. PS. When I tried to send this message I got the message [Error sending: 421 SMTP connection went away!] -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- Honor thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise; That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth. Ephesians 6:2,3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Swapping Hard Drives on the fly
Hey Folks, I have a 1.2G IDE HD that I have in a removable drive cady on my Bo system. It's not a 'hot-swap' drive or anything sophisticated like that, and on my Windoze system I wouldn't have even considered pulling it out while the PC was running. However, under Linux, shouldn't I just be able to unmount or mount the drive at will? Would that damage or confuse anything? Or possibly put in the drive once I have booted without it? Anyone have a similar setup? damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | As my head fell in the basket, Network Administrator | And was everyone dancing on the casket... EmpireNET | - TBMG, Dead -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm-debian?
On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 04:05:57PM -0400, Ossama Othman wrote: What's the difference between a standard xterm and a xterm-debian terminfo/termcap entry? It's easy enough to do a set term=xterm but I really don't want to keep doing that. Why did Debian create their own terminfo/cap entry and why was such a change necessary? http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/22/22668.html HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DO NOT UPGRADE TO PLAN 1.6.1-4.2 ! USE -5
Sorry for this, but I made a very bad mistake in -4.2, which will just unconditionally overwrite you netplan-acl file with an empty one. Please get 1.6.1-5 instead (in Incoming for now, maybe at its mirrors), it has this problem fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience - I sincerely hope nobody suffered from this. -- Yann Dirson[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Stop making M$-Bill richer richer, isp-email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | support Debian GNU/Linux: debian-email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | more powerful, more stable ! http://www.mygale.org/~ydirson/ | Check http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppd 2.3 oddity. Help me, dammit! :)
DH == Dale Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DH I dialin to a provider and authenticate via PAP. This was fine up until I DH upgraded ppp. It doesn't authenticate anymore. I've tried it on other DH providers and the same story... except when I dial into another hamm box. DH Everything's fine then. It works like a charm. DH # dpkg -l |grep ppp DH ii ppp 2.3.5-2Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. DH ii ppp-pam 2.3.5-2Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon DH Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user=username password=password] DH Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x49bd1d10] DH Jun 25 14:25:58 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ] AuthAck, so Authentication worked all right. DH Jun 25 14:25:58 apathy pppd[837]: Remote message: DH Jun 25 14:26:25 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x084d] DH Jun 25 14:26:25 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x49bd1d10] Looks like it is sending the wrong magic. Sorry, don't know what this is. Maybe you could deinstall ppp-pam and retry. Ciao, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Isn't cc the default compiler?
On 25 Jun 1998 10:24:02 +0200, Brederlow wrote: I compiled a lot of packages on my system and often I see that programms don't use cc as their compiler. Thus they don't use /etc/alternatives/cc. Unless somebody tells me a good reason for not using cc I will open bugs against any Packages that just uses gcc for fun. I know that some Packages need gcc explicitly, but that should be a realy small number. Uhm, aside from the fact that gcc is now the de facto standard and cc is considered an aniquated POS? -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/init.d/boot message?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 23 Jun, BARBELET Philippe wrote: But I think people want an exact list of the output that is generated after the kernel is done and the init scripts have started. So this is not the 'complete' solution. This is just a stab in the dark. But could something like this be done in /etc/inittab? How about this: [snip] si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS 21 | tee --append /var/log/rcS.log [snip] l0:0:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 0 21 | tee --append /var/log/rc0.log l1:1:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 1 21 | tee --append /var/log/rc1.log l2:2:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 2 21 | tee --append /var/log/rc2.log l3:3:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 3 21 | tee --append /var/log/rc3.log l4:4:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 4 21 | tee --append /var/log/rc4.log l5:5:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 5 21 | tee --append /var/log/rc5.log l6:6:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 6 21 | tee --append /var/log/rc6.log I don't know I just thought this. I haven't tried it but maybe someone that understands the startup scripts better can flame me! Disclaimer: I don't know if this will work and have not tried it so don't blame me if it breaks your system. You have been warned! Brian I have bootet some HPux systems here at the Univiersity and I realy liked the way they boot: After the kernel is loaded you get a list of things to be done. All have a [.] at the end. Now the bootprocedure goes from top to bottom and fills in what its doing into that list. Heres an example made up to explain what I mean: ... Running filesystem check . [ ok ] Mounting local filesystems ... [ ok ] Starting remote services . [failed] Synchronysing time ... [ wait ] Starting xdm [..] ... The status in [...] is colored. OK is green, wait and similar are yellow, failed will be red I think. I would like to implement a similar thing for Linux. My programm would check the last boot sequence for output and create a menu acordingly (this could be done on roots demand or after every boot). Also the boot messages would go to another console (like console 8) and to a logfile. What do you think of this? May the Source be with you. Mrvn PS: We could also show some ansi or gfx penguin in the corner during boot. This wont look as bad as the old one, because the screen wont be scrolling. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need help running man on newly installed Debian system
Fungame Game [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have recently installed Debian using the instructions on the web site. (I used a 5 floppy set). Everything seems to work fine. But man is missing (or so I think). I cannot access the manpages (am i doing it incorrectly by using man?) and whatis also doesnt work. I have combed the distributions archive and found nothing as far as man. Does anyone know what I need to do, or what I am doing wrong. Thanks, Fungame Did you run dselect at least once? The base only includes the realy neccessary packages, but alls the normal packages like man are preselected in dselect. If you start it, set the access, do a update, then a select and just quit that again and the install you should get those. Alternatively: apt-get install man-db May the Source be with you. Mrvn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing 95 NT w/out frying Linux. [Important]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I have heard some ppl on the list frying their Linux installations when installing 95/NT. So can someone please instruct me as to a -safe- way of removing installing 95 NT. Win95 should be fine, but WinNT will fry your boot menu. Make a bootdisk for your Linux and reinstall the Linux bootloader into the eNTe one after installing NT. Apart from that just be carefull not to format the wrong drives. May the Source be with you. Mrvn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Swapping Hard Drives on the fly
Damon Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Folks, I have a 1.2G IDE HD that I have in a removable drive cady on my Bo system. It's not a 'hot-swap' drive or anything sophisticated like that, and on my Windoze system I wouldn't have even considered pulling it out while the PC was running. However, under Linux, shouldn't I just be able to unmount or mount the drive at will? Would that damage or confuse anything? Or possibly put in the drive once I have booted without it? Anyone have a similar setup? Linux can handle Hot-puging of harddrives and nearly any other hardware, BUT: Forget it with IDE. IDE drives that don't get power most likely crash your ide bus (try booting with an unpowered drive conected). With scsi you can send a commando to the scsi kernel thread to create or kill a device (after unmounting all partitions on it). After that you can 99.99% savely remove the drive. You should not do that while large amounts of data are transfered over the scsi bus, but generally its save. You can try the same with ide, but I think the bus will crash and then your without any ide drive until reboot. May the Source be with you. Mrvn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/init.d/boot message?
On 25 Jun 1998, Brederlow wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 23 Jun, BARBELET Philippe wrote: But I think people want an exact list of the output that is generated after the kernel is done and the init scripts have started. So this is not the 'complete' solution. [snip] Starting remote services . [failed] A bit more info would be nice. I for one would be quite happy just to have a record of what has been printed on the screen. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj Debian Linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two 'gcc's? Yea or Nay?
On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 11:47:27PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: I would like to put egcs on this Debian 1.3 system (which, with the imminent release of 2.0 CD's will most likely become my next experimental victim) but it now occurs to me to ask what caveats I should observe upon accomplishing that. Should I rename /usr/bin/gcc (the GNU gcc) and then put a symlink in that dir to point to /usr/local/bin/gcc? Perhaps there are other changes I ought to make? Well, if you are patient (to wait for the CD), or if you don't mind downloading Debian 2.0 Beta: Debian 2.0 Beta already comes with both gcc and egcs. ;-) I'm lazy, so I never compile egcs. ;-) When I want to use egcs instead of gcc, I just use CC=egcc. :-) $ ls -l /usr/bin/egcc /usr/bin/gcc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root60320 Jun 17 03:04 /usr/bin/egcc* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root49460 Jun 15 00:48 /usr/bin/gcc* Cheers, Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://olvc.home.ml.org/ or http://www.ualberta.ca/~foka/OLVC/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Compaq servers?
Hi, Chea On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Chea Prince wrote: is Compaq shipping servers with Linux installed? is there an article somewhere outlining Compaq + Linux? what kind of server(s) are you interesting in? we just installed rh 5.1 (sorry, debian) on 2CPU Compaq Proliant 2500. I have some docs and howtos. Feel free to ask regards OK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Files missing on ftp-mirrors
There are many files missing on ftp.de.debian.org and ftp.at.debian.org i.e. dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xfnt100_3.3.2.2-1.deb dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/devel/kernel-source-2.0.34_2.0.34-2.deb dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xfntscl_3.3.2.2-1.deb dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xfntbig_3.3.2.2-1.deb dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xbooks_3.3.2.2-1.deb dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/doc/kernel-doc-2.0.34_2.0.34-2.deb dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xfntbase_3.3.2.2-1.deb dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xfnt75_3.3.2.2-1.deb dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xfntpex_3.3.2.2-1.deb --- Heute ist nicht alle Tage, ich komme wieder, keine Frage!!! Joerg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
man -k isn't working on recent hamm
Hi, I'm running a hamm system from June, 23rd and have problems with man -k. Both relevant packages, man-db_2.3.10-65.deb and manpages_1.19-1.deb, are installed correctly, that's at least what dpkg -s is telling me. I can access every manpage in /usr/man/..., but I can't use man -k, it won't find a single match. According to the man page of mandb one should use mandb --create to create an index file (index.db ?? out of memory) in /var/catman/... If I use this command mandb parses through all man directories (my MANPATH is recognized correctly) but tells me at the end, that there are 0 man pages to update !!! And I can't find any index file afterwards. Am I thinking or doing something wrong ??? Any help is highly appreciated ! Thank's, Michael P.S. I'm not subscribed to debian-user, so could you CC any reply to me as well, please ? -- -- The opinions expressed above are solely those of the author and are not necessarily those of Schering. === NAME: Dr. Michael Grimm ADDRESS: Schering AG EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Laboratories PHONE: +49-30-468-15477 D-13342 Berlin FAX: +49-30-468-16741 Germany === -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Swapping Hard Drives on the fly
On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 11:29:38PM -0700, Damon Muller wrote: Hey Folks, I have a 1.2G IDE HD that I have in a removable drive cady on my Bo system. It's not a 'hot-swap' drive or anything sophisticated like that, and on my Windoze system I wouldn't have even considered pulling it out while the PC was running. However, under Linux, shouldn't I just be able to unmount or mount the drive at will? Would that damage or confuse anything? Or possibly put in the drive once I have booted without it? Anyone have a similar setup? Hotswapping devices not intended for it is a Bad Thing(tm). However, if you are determined... I have safely hot-swapped network/sound/serial boards under Linux with no problems, BUT that does not mean it is safe. Chances are you will fry something. I do _NOT_ recommend that you even attempt a hot-swap of an IDE device. If you are going to hotswap, you _must_ turn off the driver for it first, ie rmmod it. Since you are booting off an IDE device, it is compiled in the kernel, and you can't rmmod it- so when you disconnect the drive, the kernel will complain _loudly_. I tried it once, just to see- ended up hard resetting my box. If you wanted a hot-swappable setup, you might try setting up some sort of ramdisk root fs with the ide driver compiled as a module and all your important stuff (/usr, /var etc) mounted off your ide drive, you could then drop to single user mode, umount the ide devices, rmmod the driver and maybe have a chance. -- __ | ian eure, network admin, freelance security consultant, and | | manically depressed paranoid schizophrenic, at your service. | ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://minion.org ; : raw speed = 105.6 wpm with 4.5% errors : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xhost
Hi all, I am trying to configure my debian 1.3.1 box to allow me to run X programs from the root account when I am logged in as another user, this is because the root account is locked so I have to 'su' to root, the problem I am having is that before I 'su' to root I have to run xhost hostname. Is there anyway to have this done automatically or do I have to enter it in manually? Also I have root's profile script set to export the DISPLAY environment variable when I do a 'su -' but does it matter if this is set if I am not in X but just using the console or telnet? If it does then how can I get it to only be set when I 'su -' from within X? Regards Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Postgres, php question
On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 07:51:19AM -0400, Paul McDermott wrote: hello my debian user friends, I've installed Postgres.deb, php3.deb, apache.deb and www-pgsql from the slink area. I've done the postgres tutorial and it was great. Now i want to start on makeing a web interface for a database i put together. I read through the documentation, but i am confused. Is there a tutorial for the php3 program? If so where can i Sorry, I missed the original posting. If you want to use php3 with postgres, you need the php3-pgsql package too, and you dont need www-pgsql. There are some examples for php in /usr/doc/php3/examples and there is lots of documentation in the php3-doc package. Read README.Debian too, it explains you how to use the postgresql functions in php3 scripts. Greg (php3 maintainer) -- Madarasz Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/local/linux/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
setuid problems
Aren't setuid shell scripts supposed to be executed with EUID=1? They aren't on my system. I can't see what's wrong here... oskar:~$ id uid=1000(usel) gid=1000(usel) groups=1000(usel) oskar:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/suidtest #!/bin/sh echo uid=$UID euid=$EUID oskar:~$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/suidtest -rwsrwxr-x 1 root root 35 Jun 25 12:31 /usr/local/bin/suidtest* oskar:~$ /usr/local/bin/suidtest uid=1000 euid=1000 oskar:~$ Some users should be able to mount two specific DOS hdd drives, and the same users should also be able to call shutdown -r/-h now. I can't see any other way to do it. Oskar Liljeblad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xhost
If you always su to root from the same account (as i do), you can simply create a symbolic link from /root/.Xauthority to /home/xyz/.Xauthority (with xyz being your user name). Stefan __ Stefan Gödel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deutsche Bank AG (Eschborn) This message and any statements expressed therein are those of myself and not of the Deutsche Bank AG or its subsidiary companies. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: older debian release?
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, peter wrote: hi, i've got what may seem a strange request.. i'm looking for an older release of debian. i have a laptop w/ only 2MB RAM and i've been told that one of the older releases of debian will run under 2MB. well, I tried 1.3.1 with 2MB, but that's really really not done... I even compiled a kernel with no support for anything, but is still didn't quite boot... It was a 386/25 (I even don't know if it's a SX or DX). I had to outcomment some lines in the source code of the kernel to make it even boot the kernel... Eventually I had a kernel of about 500KB, I had modified the boot script to enable swap before anything else, but after some 45 minutes the syslogd was only just started... and just to stave off the usual responses i get, i know that i won't be able to do much with only 2MB, but i'm only interested in a base install anyway, i use my main machine for all the big stuff. if you install 1.3.1 (at least if you succeed...) and try booting with init=/bin/bash you might say you're running linux, but you can't run much more than just a shell... I'm sorry to disappoint you, but it seems this is the truth... Regards, Maarten. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xhost
- I am trying to configure my debian 1.3.1 box to allow me to run X - programs from the root account when I am logged in as another user, this - is because the root account is locked so I have to 'su' to root, the - problem I am having is that before I 'su' to root I have to run xhost - hostname. Is there anyway to have this done automatically or do I have - to enter it in manually? hmmm maybe ssh localhost -l root would help; but you must have ssh installed which is not default in the US afaik. And i wouldn't recommend allowing remote logins of root even via ssh. I anyway would advise doing xhost [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is more secure - xhost localhost would allow ANYONE to connect afaik. - Also I have root's profile script set to export the DISPLAY environment - variable when I do a 'su -' but does it matter if this is set if I am not - in X but just using the console or telnet? If it does then how can I get - it to only be set when I 'su -' from within X? maybe the best way would be 1. use script for su'ing which whould do xhost and su 2. use script which would copy .Xauthority and setup DISPLAY in root's shell; -- Matus fantomas Uhlar, sysadmin at NETLAB+ Kosice, Slovakia BIC coord for *.sk; admin of netlab.irc.sk; co-admin of irc.felk.cvut.cz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smbmount /usr possible?
Greetings fellow debian users, I've recently gotten myself a little local network and have decided to run my old 486 as server for exporting its large HD by using samba. My new PC (the client) has both Linux and Win95 bootable + the old 1GB HD. Now, I want to minimize the Linux partition on my client and smbmount the /usr directory from my server. The target is to share every little file that is sharable to maximize the usage of the HD. The best would be (I suppose) to have the same /usr mounted on both hosts. However, debian seems to use /usr to store vital installation information which will cause conflicts if I manage to smbmount that directory. So, is it possible to only use dselect on my server to install programs I want to share between the hosts. And is it possible to share the entire /usr directory? Regards, /Gunnarbegin: vcard fn: Gunnar Strand n: Strand;Gunnar org:Ericsson Erisoft AB email;internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] title: Software Engineer x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: xhost
GL == 44 1785 248131 Graham writes: GL I am trying to configure my debian 1.3.1 box to allow me to run X GL programs from GL the root account when I am logged in as another user, this is because GL the root GL Also I have root's profile script set to export the DISPLAY environment GL variable when I do a 'su -' but does it matter if this is set if I am GL not in X GL but just using the console or telnet? If it does then how can I get GL it to only GL be set when I 'su -' from within X? ssh will do all the magic necessary. And it will encript and compress the traffic, so it is secure as well. Just install the package. Ciao, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mouseman+ with linux
Mike Orr wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 04:14:52PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have any info on using the 4-button/1-wheel logitech mouseman+ mouse with linux? See Colas Nahaboo's X Mouse Wheel Scroll Page at http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ and also also /usr/doc/X11/README.mouse You will have to spend some time tweaking the settings and your XF86Config file and making sure each button does what you want. I have a Logitech MouseMan+, which I had set up specially so that buttons 2 and 3 are reversed, so that the right button does paste (same as GPM) and the bottom button does the other thing. (I think I put a pointer 1 3 2 line or such somewhere, but I can't find it in ~/.xsession or /etc/X11/XF86Config so I'm not sure where I put it.) There is a 'pointer' command for Xmodmap, thats probably where you put it. Anyway, when I tried to set up the mouse wheel thing, my paste button moved to the bottom button, and the Debian Menu (which I use all the time) also moved to the bottom button. This was intolerable, so I backed out the changes until I can find some time to get all the buttons right. Also, the doc mentions that your applications receive the wheel-up and wheel-down events as two extra buttons but then makess you remap the button order because X only supports 5 buttons and you now have 6. I'm not sure what the optimal settings should be, and how each application should be set up. If you try this and it works, let me know. Maybe we can put together a Suggested Debian Solution if no one else is working on it. One advantage of Linux over Windows is that the Windows driver cannot distinguish between pressing the bottom button and pressing the wheel button. I got one of these mice for my mother (she finds it better for her hand than the MS mice because of her carpal-tunnel syndrome). Anyway, she didn't want to do any dragging, and so we made the wheel button be a start drag command. Unfortunately, the function got propagated to the bottom button as well. But because she's used to resting her thumb right where the bottom button is, she was constantly pressing the bottom button inadvertently. So we had to disable the bottom button, which meant we lost the wheel button and the drag button function as well. What about gpm? I haven't heard anything about GPM. -- ** MIKE ORR [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** Russki Deutsch Esperanto* * ** * * ** * * * (Insert silly quote here) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smbmount /usr possible?
I'm not sure about the package management issue but I would definely use NFS in this case isntead of samba. SMB is missing some important filesystem features, such as permission bits and file ownership that you generally really want to have on /usr. Nate On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Gunnar Strand wrote: Greetings fellow debian users, I've recently gotten myself a little local network and have decided to run my old 486 as server for exporting its large HD by using samba. My new PC (the client) has both Linux and Win95 bootable + the old 1GB HD. Now, I want to minimize the Linux partition on my client and smbmount the /usr directory from my server. The target is to share every little file that is sharable to maximize the usage of the HD. The best would be (I suppose) to have the same /usr mounted on both hosts. However, debian seems to use /usr to store vital installation information which will cause conflicts if I manage to smbmount that directory. So, is it possible to only use dselect on my server to install programs I want to share between the hosts. And is it possible to share the entire /usr directory? Regards, /Gunnar --- Nathan C. Burnett Everyone is born right-handed, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] only the greatest overcome it. http://www.cse.msu.edu/~burnet26-Slogan, Left-Handers' Club of Ireland ( ( (((In Stereo Where Available))) ) ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PNP
Adam Greene wrote: I've been out of the loop for a while and I am wondering if Plug and Play is yet in the kernel?? PnP support is in the development kernel (currently 2.1.106) but not in the stable kernel (currently 2.0.34). There is a package called isapnptools that can detect and initialize PnP cards at Linux bootup. I've used it and it works well (but has a somewhat difficult lisp-like config file). Then I discovered that my BIOS is PnP aware, and now use it to init my PnP sound card. -- Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lilo-password-dos
Hy, don't you know, how to passwordize dos part of lilo - to make safer computer. (I know, that the best is to formate dos, but sometimes I need dos a bit). Thak's a lot. Martin S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Compaq servers?
don't have a server model in mind. situation is this. we (public domain, inc. --pd) have been providing internet access to other nonprofits and individual artists for the past seven years on a sun 4/280 running sun OS 4.1.1. we now need to replace the sun -- which btw has run reliably 24/7 for all these years and only rarely required a reboot -- can't imagine running anything but a 'unix' OS. anyway, we have long been supporters of free software/gnu/open source. having looked over all the options we find we are most closely aligned philosophically with debian/GNU. i've already installed debian on a 486 and pentium/166 and with the exception of some choking on an onboard aic6160 scsi chip (append statements in LILO brought no joy) all's well and i'm looking forward to upgrading to the 2.0beta. my interest in compaq is in trying to find a hardware DONOR. i'm looking for a company with a corporate giving program that will understand the proposal i'm writing explaining our decision to go with Linux. someone mentioned to me (off this group) that compaq might be approachable. suggestion was that they were either shipping boxes with linux pre-installed or shipping boxes without an OS on which unix/linux could be installed. i am looking for clarification on compatibility between debian linux and compaq servers and on compaq's attitude toward linux in general so i'll know what kind of spin to put in the proposal, or whether its even worthwhile putting something in front of them at all. if anyone happens to know of a company thats particularly linux friendly, please let me know. pd is a 501-(c)-3 so all donations are, of course, tax deductible. please visit us at www.pd.org. thanks for the response, OK. -c- On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Chea On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Chea Prince wrote: is Compaq shipping servers with Linux installed? is there an article somewhere outlining Compaq + Linux? what kind of server(s) are you interesting in? we just installed rh 5.1 (sorry, debian) on 2CPU Compaq Proliant 2500. I have some docs and howtos. Feel free to ask regards OK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] == The man PUBLIC DOMAIN, INC. Of virtuous soul commands not, nor obeys: P.O. Box 8899-0899 Power, like a desolating pestilence, Atlanta, GA 30306 Pollutes whate'er it touches, and obedience, VOX: 404.373.0980Bane of all genius, virtue, freedom, truth, FAX: 404.378.3607Makes slaves of men, and, of the human frame, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A mechanised automaton. --Percy Bysshe Shelley = -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setuid problems
Oskar Liljeblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OL Aren't setuid shell scripts supposed to be executed with EUID=1? OL They aren't on my system. I can't see what's wrong here... setuid-root (and probably setuid-anything) scripts run with the uid of the caller; they ignore the setuid bit. OL Some users should be able to mount two specific DOS hdd drives, OL and the same users should also be able to call shutdown -r/-h now. OL I can't see any other way to do it. You can make users able to mount specific drives by adding a user option to their lines in /etc/fstab; see mount(8) for more details. You can also use the sudo command to grant specific users permission to do specific things as root; install the Debian sudo package and read its documentation. -- _ / \ Dad was reading a book called | David Maze | _Schroedinger's Kittens_. Asexual | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | reproduction? Only one cat is in the box. | http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ | -- Abra Mitchell \_/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: lilo-password-dos
You just need to add a password=XX line to each OS stanza as shown in the lilo.conf file below. You are prompted for a password after entering your OS selection at the lilo prompt: prompt compact single-key timeout=600 boot=/dev/hda message=/boot/message image=/vmlinuz label=Linux alias=1 password=linpass root=/dev/hda7 read-only other=/dev/hda2 label=Win95/WinNT alias=2 password=winpass change partition=/dev/hda2 activate set=dos16_big_normal partition=/dev/hda1 deactivate set=dos16_big_hidden other=/dev/hda1 label=MSDOS/Win3.11 alias=2 password=dospass change partition=/dev/hda1 activate set=dos16_big_normal partition=/dev/hda2 set=dos16_big_hidden deactivate Since the passwords are plain text, you want to make sure that only root has read permission on your lilo.conf file. Note: I've got version 20 of LILO (because I need the partition activation/deactivation and partition hiding/unhiding stuff that is only present in version 20), but I believe passwords were supported in the same manner in the version that comes with BO (version 19). Tony Richardson -Original Message- From: xsat [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 9:34 AM To: debian-user Subject: lilo-password-dos Hy, don't you know, how to passwordize dos part of lilo - to make safer computer. (I know, that the best is to formate dos, but sometimes I need dos a bit). Thak's a lot. Martin S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2 ethernet cards - Thank you
Hi Ian, You were right. I have recompile the kernel whith the module 3c509 included and it's working very well ! Thenak you ! Phil. -- De: Ian Eure A: Barbelet, Philippe Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Objet: Re: 2 ethernet cards (more ...) Date: jeudi 25 juin 1998 01:14 Microsoft Mail v3.0 IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note From: Ian Eure To: Barbelet, Philippe Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 2 ethernet cards (more ...) Date: 1998-06-25 01:14 Priority: 3 -- On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 12:08:07PM -0700, Philippe BARBELET wrote: Hi Debian friends, I have 2 ISA 3C509 ethernet cards in my PC. At boot time, the system says : 3c509: WARNING! Module load-time probing works reliably only for EISA and MCA bus!! loading device 'eth0'... eth0: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address 00 20 af 34 e8 44, IRQ 3. 3c509.c:1.07 6/15/95 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My lilo.conf file is correctly configured : append=ether=0,0,eth1 but the system doesn't see the second card. I think that the probing test doesn't work correctly. If I put just 1 card at a time, the card is always recognized. IIRC, the kernel boot paramaters only work if the driver is compiled into the kernel. If you are compiling it as a module (eg default Debian setup) you need to edit /etc/conf.modules and add a line like: ``options 3c509 io=0xAAA,0xBBB irq=CC,DD'' where 0xAAA and CC are for eth0, and 0xBBB and DD are for eth1. Note that I'm not certain about the specific parameters, you might want to read the driver source if it dosen't work- alternatively, you could just recompile your kernel with the 3c509 driver in the kernel instead of a module. -- __ | ian eure, network admin, freelance security consultant, and | | manically depressed paranoid schizophrenic, at your service. | ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://minion.org ; : raw speed = 105.6 wpm with 4.5% errors : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need linux for alpha
unless something drastic happened very recently, Linux will NOT run on any of the DEC 3000 series. for more info, check out Thanks for the info. Arg. :) Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: changing module parameters
Mike, yup, that works fine, thanks. A followup question: the old wrong parameters install still shows up earlier in the boot sequence. Where is that information stored? I'm half-guessing, being new at this thing, that it was compiled into some kind of map when I built the system using the install. ??? Hank -Original Message- From: Mike Schmitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Schmitz Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 2:20 AM To: 'Debian-User E-mail' Subject: Re: changing module parameters On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 01:52:11AM -0400, Hank Fay wrote: Oops -- the info on modules to be loaded was in /etc/modules -- but no info on the parameters being passed. You want /etc/conf.modules. my ne otions line is: options ne io=0x340 -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: memory usage and Netscape
Mark Panzer wrote: Ed Cogburn wrote: Nelson Posse Lago wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Mark Panzer wrote: While running netscape ver 4.05 I commonly run out of memory after two hours. I have 32Mbytes of RAM and a 50Mbyte swap. Netscape for linux leaks memory like hell; you may want to install netscape using the debian installer package, it preloads (or used to, don't know if this is the case still) some libraries tha alleviate (but don't solve) the problem. There's not much more you can do about it. I *think* what really kills memory fast are animated gifs, since it actually reloads the gif indefinetely, so ESC should help also. See ya, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's Internet! The future? I've seen the future: It's a 46 years old virgin singing 'I am a hotdog' - From Demolition Man How can this be? If NS ran out of memory after two hours of use it would affect everybody. Yet this is the first post concerning the problem, and in all the time I've used NS on linux its only happened once (I was doing a lot of stuff in the background at the time). It may be related to the version (professional/standalone) or maybe something else thats running at the same time. The thing is the only way I seem to have enough free memory to run Netscape is to be the only person log-in an account and the only programs running are shown in myproc.txt which is attached. Right now I have 12MBytes of RAM free and am not using the swap but wait maybe 20 min. even if I don't do anything and it'll already be using about 20Meg of my swap. That seems weird because I have my memory cache down to 100Kbytes and disk cache to 1Meg. Mark Panzer That does sound weird. I have 32M ram + 70M swap, running 2.0.34 kernel, using glibc version of NS v4.05 professional. After logging in to X, I then logged in to 2 other consoles and ran dselect and mc in them. Its hard to tell what's going on by the output of top, but at the beginning of this session, top showed all mem in use but no swap. After about an hour and a half, including mail and browser activity, it has released ~1M of RAM but is using ~8M of swap. As soon as I end the apps in the consoles I get ~5M of ram back (free), for a max change of 2 to 8 meg of used memory. That isn't much of a change, and seems reasonable given what I was doing. I have certainly never seen the kind of effects you are seeing (like using 20M of swap). -- Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dump and 4mm DAT
Dear debian users, Do you know what are the good parameters to use whith the dump command for a 4mm DAT system ? Tank you. Phil. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smbmount not showing all dir enteries on client
Hi, I have my Debian box running samba 1.9.18p8. I am also mounting the clients drives with smbmount. The problem is that not all the directories on the client are showing up when mounted. In the windows directory on the client when I issue 'dir /a:d/o:n' I get: AIM95 DIR04-26-98 6:31p aim95 COMMANDDIR03-19-98 3:08p COMMAND CONFIG DIR03-19-98 3:08p CONFIG COOKIESDIR03-19-98 3:37p Cookies CURSORSDIR03-19-98 3:08p CURSORS DESKTOPDIR03-19-98 3:08p DESKTOP DRIVERSDIR04-19-98 8:55a Drivers FAVORI~1 DIR03-19-98 3:38p Favorites FONTS DIR03-19-98 3:08p FONTS FORMS DIR03-19-98 3:08p FORMS HELP DIR03-19-98 3:08p HELP HISTORYDIR03-19-98 3:37p History INFDIR03-19-98 3:08p INF INTUIT DIR04-26-98 12:21p Intuit JAVA DIR03-19-98 3:08p JAVA LOTUSAPP DIR04-16-98 8:08p LOTUSAPP MEDIA DIR03-19-98 3:08p MEDIA MSAPPS DIR03-19-98 3:15p MsApps NETHOODDIR04-16-98 1:18p NetHood OPTIONSDIR03-19-98 3:08p OPTIONS PHOTOCDDIR03-19-98 3:16p PHOTOCD PIFDIR03-19-98 3:37p PIF PROFILES DIR04-20-98 5:49p Profiles RECENT DIR03-19-98 3:37p Recent SENDTO DIR03-19-98 3:21p SendTo SHELLNEW DIR03-19-98 3:08p ShellNew SPOOL DIR03-19-98 3:08p SPOOL STARTM~1 DIR03-19-98 3:15p Start Menu SYSBCKUP DIR03-19-98 3:15p SYSBCKUP SYSTEM DIR03-19-98 3:08p SYSTEM TEMP DIR03-19-98 3:15p TEMP TEMPOR~1 DIR03-19-98 3:37p Temporary Internet Files UBISOFTDIR04-16-98 2:24p UbiSoft WANGSAMP DIR03-19-98 3:08p WANGSAMP WORDVIEW DIR03-19-98 3:14p WORDVIEW WS2BAKUP DIR04-26-98 4:04p ws2bakup But from the server when I issue in the windows directory with 'find . -type d -maxdepth 1' I get: ./COMMAND ./CONFIG ./CURSORS ./DESKTOP ./FONTS ./FORMS ./HELP ./INF ./JAVA ./MEDIA ./MsApps ./OPTIONS ./PHOTOCD ./SPOOL ./SYSBCKUP ./SYSTEM ./SendTo ./TEMP ./WANGSAMP ./WORDVIEW Why are some of the directory not showing up? Thanks. Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: program to switch consoles?
Paul, man switchto Steve Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Miller wrote: I'm looking for a program to switch the displayed console after my system finishes booting (from tty1 to tty2). Why? I use tty1 for logging in and tty2 for syslog messages, and I'd like to see the output by default after my system boots. -Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitioning/Dual Booting
M. Phillips wrote: I'm a newby to the whole Linux/GNU/Debian system, being a long-time MS devotee, and although I am very close to being sold on getting it, I have a couple of questions to clear up first. 1: In the FAQ, section 3.4 http://www.us.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-3.html#ss3.4 states that one should partition a 1.6 GB hard disk with the following partitions: *30 MBytes for the root directory (/) *450 MBytes for /usr *50 MBytes for swap space *1000 MBytes for home directories (some of this could be used for /usr/local/) *0 MBytes for /tmp; make /tmp a symbolic link to /var/tmp *40 MBytes for /var Pardon my ignorance, or mayhaps it's the ambiguity of the whole section, but does this mean I need five separate partitions on the single disk, or (more likely, methinks) does it mean that the single partition consists of 1570 MBytes? Any clarification would be most appreciated. Yes this example show that you need 5 separate partitions. I just did this to my computer recently. Here is how I have it set-up: paritionLinux Name Mount Point (where it is in the directory map) 1 hda1none Win 95 2 hda2Linux root (/) 3 hda3Linux /usr (where most of your applications hide) 4 hda4Linux swap Just use your handy cfdisk program included with you Debian distribution (after backing up ALL the data you wish to keep) and make your partitions. Otherwise you could use Partition Magic to shrink the size of your Windows or DOS partition and create your linux partitions from the free space. Also, seeing as how I _am_ new to the idea, I would very much like to perform a dual boot between Win95/MS-DOS, and Debian/GNU Linux operating systems. Seems like somewhere in the dark recesses of the PC World archives there's a miniscule article about dual-booting between 2 or more OSes, but I've since lost/given away the issue, and I'd like to hear it from a user more experienced than myself in the area. To use the quick way out at www.linux.org in the HOWTO documents there is one on dual booting between Linux and Win95/DOS/OS2 etc... Linux uses the LILO loader to load up your operating system, but you can also use it to load Windows or DOS. If you need more help just ask I can send you my lilo.conf the file which tells LILO how to boot up Win95 in my system. Mark Panzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/init.d/boot message?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have bootet some HPux systems here at the Univiersity and I realy liked the way they boot: After the kernel is loaded you get a list of things to be done. All have a [.] at the end. Now the bootprocedure goes from top to bottom and fills in what its doing into that list. Heres an example made up to explain what I mean: Yep I have seen that sort of thing before, and I think it would be a good idea. ... Running filesystem check . [ ok ] Mounting local filesystems ... [ ok ] Starting remote services . [failed] Synchronysing time ... [ wait ] Starting xdm [..] ... The status in [...] is colored. OK is green, wait and similar are yellow, failed will be red I think. I would like to implement a similar thing for Linux. My programm would check the last boot sequence for output and create a menu acordingly (this could be done on roots demand or after every boot). Also the boot messages would go to another console (like console 8) and to a logfile. What do you think of this? I think It may be rather difficult to implement, as wouldn't it mean a program taking over the boot process and it would then be this program that controled the execution sequence of the init scripts. Also how would you tell if the scripts had been executed sucsessfully? Do they return a code or something on completion? But generally I would like to see something like this, writing the output from this program to a seperate log file might be an idea to. Good Luck Graham P.S. If you want any help please feel free to contact me. +--+--- ---+ | Graham Lillico| E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +--+--- ---+ May the Source be with you. Mrvn PS: We could also show some ansi or gfx penguin in the corner during boot. This wont look as bad as the old one, because the screen wont be scrolling. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/init.d/boot message?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi all again But generally I would like to see something like this, writing the output from this program to a seperate log file might be an idea to. HPUX also makes boot/shudown logs regards, Ulisses - - Computers are useless. They can only give answers.Pablo Picasso -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: latin1 Comment: PGP public key avaliable at http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver iQB1AwUBNZJ0IA/N+5+NQ63pAQHySAL/V88IZYIlXfh59QY+uP1cZCT9+0PSOe/7 XE6j7F/EJHY0sU/+IFQxqriOmibZBsSavPuMstULhbv9B6p7xEJxv4Zm3jOJFgzQ 0z7R38433g6YmA2mq6y9G+f4nvFUmAcm =VfX+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Socks
helo!! Where can I find socks package? Running bo 1.3.1. I would like to install sockd demon to help local users to use port 1080 as SOCKS port for the netscape etc... in my gateway to another network. Btw...Im inside firewal..no chanse to run some proxy server on my PC. (Im not alloved to use some proxy myself,only gatewaying.) 73's de Boris AMPRNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to use 2 ISPs with PAP?
Can anyone advise on how to configure the system to handle two ISP connections, both of which use PAP: 1. ISP with dynamic IP address 2. ISP with fixed IP address How should the routing work? At present I have 127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 lo 192.168.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0U 0 0 1 lo On dial-up, the dynamic IP then appears as a gateway. The 192.168.0.0 is the internal network (one other linux box), so how/where do I also have to configure the fixed IP address? At present /etc/resolv.conf has domain/search entries for the dynamic IPs. Also, PAP-Secrets says not to use more than one login name and password, at present those of the dynamic IP connection. So how does one add another ISP there? I have RTFM and Kirch's excellent Network Administrator's Guide but am becoming more confused by the minute, so any tips would be greatly appreciated. TIA Adrian Monk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Two 'gcc's? Yea or Nay?
Christopher Fury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry, I had a simular but unlrelated FAQ reading problem with egcs recently too... :) Hmmm...sort of a new public mental health issue, huh? We could call it FAQophobia or something equally pithy! Start a movement to defend the rights of FAQ-literacy-challenged minority group, and nominate ourselves its founding members. g configure egcs like so: ../configure --prefix=/usr/local/egcs when you install, this will make a directory egcs in /usr/local. then I went into /usr/local/bin and symlinked the binaries so I could have both gcc and egcc (what I called the symlink for egcs's version of gcc). This appears to be an excellent tactic; it's too bad that in typical bull-in-china-shop fashion I just barged into the compile using the default /usr/local prefix! When will I learn patience? g Oh well, I'll just do it over as I've done over so many other things! Thanks! n--e--u--t--r--i--n--of--e--v--e--r--!- Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brainiac.com/bernie at Esmond, R.I. ftp://rupturedduck.dyn.ml.org (sometimes) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Two 'gcc's? Yea or Nay?
Anthony Fok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you are patient (to wait for the CD), or if you don't mind downloading Debian 2.0 Beta: Debian 2.0 Beta already comes with both gcc and egcs. ;-) Kewl. BTW, Linux System Labs is taking orders for 2.0 (at least they've got mine!); they forecast delivery starting the end of this month or early next... $ ls -l /usr/bin/egcc /usr/bin/gcc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root60320 Jun 17 03:04 /usr/bin/egcc* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root49460 Jun 15 00:48 /usr/bin/gcc* Ok, I haven't posted a BIG DUMMY question in quite some time; I'm overdue! SO: what's the significance of the asterisks next to those two lines above? n--e--u--t--r--i--n--of--e--v--e--r--!- Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brainiac.com/bernie at Esmond, R.I. ftp://rupturedduck.dyn.ml.org (sometimes) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re[2]: Two 'gcc's? Yea or Nay?
Hi, $ ls -l /usr/bin/egcc /usr/bin/gcc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root60320 Jun 17 03:04 /usr/bin/egcc* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root49460 Jun 15 00:48 /usr/bin/gcc* Ok, I haven't posted a BIG DUMMY question in quite some time; I'm overdue! SO: what's the significance of the asterisks next to those two lines above? Heh, good question! :) The asterisk after the filename indicates that it is an executable file. Similarly a directory would have a / after it. This type of output is caused by doing a ls -F. Debian sets up the following aliases: unalias ls alias ls 'ls-F -C' It seems that ls-F (no space after ls) is a shell built-in command. As stated above, shells that don't have this built-in command can simply use ls -F (with a space after ls) to produce the desired output. Incidentally, here is an excerpt from the ls man page: -F, --classify Append a character to each file name indicating the file type. For regular files that are executable, append a `*'. The file type indicators are `/' for directories, `@' for symbolic links, `|' for FIFOs, `=' for sockets, and nothing for regular files. -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mouse freezes when running GIMP
I have libgtk 1.04 and GIMP 1.0 (hamm) and a standard serial el-cheapo mouse. When I run GIMP, the mouse locks up. I have to use Ctrl-Alt-Backsp to exit X. This didn't happen with prior versions, but I'm not sure what exactly is causing it, because both gtk and gimp have been updated in the recent past (I didn't pay close attention), as well as a video hardware upgrade resulting in a new default resolution and color depth for X. I've tried reinstalling, changing mouse protocols in XF86Config, killing GPM before running X but nothing changes. Has anybody seen this before? -- Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: memory usage and Netscape
Ed Cogburn wrote: Mark Panzer wrote: Ed Cogburn wrote: Nelson Posse Lago wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Mark Panzer wrote: While running netscape ver 4.05 I commonly run out of memory after two hours. I have 32Mbytes of RAM and a 50Mbyte swap. Netscape for linux leaks memory like hell; you may want to install netscape using the debian installer package, it preloads (or used to, don't know if this is the case still) some libraries tha alleviate (but don't solve) the problem. There's not much more you can do about it. I *think* what really kills memory fast are animated gifs, since it actually reloads the gif indefinetely, so ESC should help also. See ya, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's Internet! The future? I've seen the future: It's a 46 years old virgin singing 'I am a hotdog' - From Demolition Man How can this be? If NS ran out of memory after two hours of use it would affect everybody. Yet this is the first post concerning the problem, and in all the time I've used NS on linux its only happened once (I was doing a lot of stuff in the background at the time). It may be related to the version (professional/standalone) or maybe something else thats running at the same time. The thing is the only way I seem to have enough free memory to run Netscape is to be the only person log-in an account and the only programs running are shown in myproc.txt which is attached. Right now I have 12MBytes of RAM free and am not using the swap but wait maybe 20 min. even if I don't do anything and it'll already be using about 20Meg of my swap. That seems weird because I have my memory cache down to 100Kbytes and disk cache to 1Meg. Mark Panzer That does sound weird. I have 32M ram + 70M swap, running 2.0.34 kernel, using glibc version of NS v4.05 professional. After logging in to X, I then logged in to 2 other consoles and ran dselect and mc in them. Its hard to tell what's going on by the output of top, but at the beginning of this session, top showed all mem in use but no swap. After about an hour and a half, including mail and browser activity, it has released ~1M of RAM but is using ~8M of swap. As soon as I end the apps in the consoles I get ~5M of ram back (free), for a max change of 2 to 8 meg of used memory. That isn't much of a change, and seems reasonable given what I was doing. I have certainly never seen the kind of effects you are seeing (like using 20M of I'm about ready to use a big profanity because I had a really nice message worked up to reply but then netscape mail used up all my memory and quit blowing away about 25 min of typing a message. Anyway attached are the results from ps and free at about 5 min before it wiped out all my communicator apps I had open (dumping all the text I had typed ). Someone asked if I had used the debian package to install it, yes I did. Maybe this problem could be attributed to my kernel? Maybe it doesn't do memory management correctly? I also noticed that right after I went to a page which used java and the java vm started that my memory (now swap) usage went up by 5 meg! Is there someone else that may know more about this? It is starting to get really annoying when I have to have a xterm open all the time and every 5 min check the amount of free space to see if I have to close netscape and open it again to stop this memory growth problem. Is there anything that you know of that I can try (there's seems to be some weird bug here). Maybe when netscape gets compiled for libc6 I won't have to load the old v5 libs and it'll save memory??? Mark Panzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 30260 29816444 9212116 7440 -/+ buffers/cache: 22260 8000 Swap:48188 20484 27704 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 157 1 S0:00 (bash) 163 1 S0:00 (xinit) 171 1 S0:02 /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2 181 1 S0:00 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm2/FvwmPager 8 5 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fv 183 p0 S0:00 -bash 193 1 S2:59 /usr/lib/netscape/netscape mailbox: 205 1 S0:00 (netscape) 363 p0 R0:00 ps
VAXstation Linux
Is there any plans to port Debian to VAXstations? I know there is a port of NetBSD, but Debian would be so much cooler. Tod Detre |Losers whine about their best, winners go home and @%^ the | prom queen. -Sean Connery (The Rock) |It is TOD not TODD! Do you see God spelling his name | Godd? -Me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: program to switch consoles?
Perfect! That is exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks -Paul On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Paul Miller wrote: I'm looking for a program to switch the displayed console after my system finishes booting (from tty1 to tty2). Why? I use tty1 for logging in and tty2 for syslog messages, and I'd like to see the output by default after my system boots. -Paul chvt package: kbd Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - WinErr: 011 Illegal error - You are not allowed to get this error. Next time you will get a penalty for that. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dosemu
On 24-Jun-98 Ian Stuart wrote: How on earth do I get dosemu to use my 4Dos dos rather than freedos? dosemu uses a disk image that's been created before hand. To get dosemu to use another *dos than the one it's currently using.. build another/different disk image.. I built my image off of a floppy formated with MSDos 6x. I forgot the exact commands I used (this was a few months back)... See if that little bit of information helps you... if not.. let me know and I'll dig out my notes back when I was working with it. -- http://benham.net/index.html -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++ P+++$ L++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b DI+++ D++ G++G+++ e h+ r* y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- pgpe1NVFw6zjh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mouse freezes when running GIMP
Ed Cogburn wrote: I have libgtk 1.04 and GIMP 1.0 (hamm) and a standard serial el-cheapo mouse. When I run GIMP, the mouse locks up. I have to use Ctrl-Alt-Backsp to exit X. This didn't happen with prior versions, but I'm not sure what exactly is causing it, because both gtk and gimp have been updated in the recent past (I didn't pay close attention), as well as a video hardware upgrade resulting in a new default resolution and color depth for X. I've tried reinstalling, changing mouse protocols in XF86Config, killing GPM before running X but nothing changes. Has anybody seen this before? I'll answer my own question. As soon as I had posted the above, it hit me that something else has changed since GIMP last worked and that was X (3.3.1 to 3.3.2). I looked in XF86Config and discovered the XInput section which I had activated (for joystick support) even though I've yet to use that functionality. I commented this out and reran. Presto! So, either GIMP doesn't like Xinput or X doesn't like GIMP, I'm not sure which to point the finger at. Moral of this story, don't use Xinput (for now). -- Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: speed improvements for a low end system
On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Paul Miller wrote: I'm in the process of replacing my computer's role with an old computer, to give my system more freedom (I don't have to be up all the time!). Anyone have any software suggestions on how I can improve the speed on my old 486DX/33 (8 ram, 1 ide, 2 old scsi drives, PS/1 w/ 8k i-cache!)? First, I have one hardware suggestion: add more RAM if at all possible. Even a couple more megs will make a noticeable difference. Running all this stuff means you will be using swap. Put your swap on the fastest drive you have. Better yet, put a swap partition on each drive, and give priority to the fastest drive. This will make your swap as fast as possible. But swap is still a couple orders of magnitude slower than RAM, so the very best thing you can do for this system is to put in more RAM if at all possible. Linux is very efficient with RAM, but the more the better. The next best thing is to set up your software to use less RAM. This will reduce swapping. Make the smallest possible kernel you can - only include support for what you need. If possible, don't use modules, compile everything in. The RAM savings is tiny, but every little bit helps. This computer is only used for the following services: * telnet (only for password changes, all shells are /usr/bin/passwd) * html (running apache) Do you really need to do this? See if you can limit the amount of memory Apache takes up. Or look at boa or some other, smaller webserver. Or use a port redirector and run the service on another computer. * pop3 (also running qmail, running from inetd) * smtp (currently running qmail, running as a daemon) Are there any mailservers that are smaller? * dns (running bind) Check the man page for bind, and limit the amount of memory it uses. * ip masquerading (local - internet, both 10mbit ethernet connections) I listed the services in order of how fast they run (first being the slowest, and last the fastest) -- this isn't a heavly used system, but when multiple events occur at the same time, it becomes extremely slow. That really sounds like swapping. Putting in RAM is the very best thing. I want to remove all processes that take lots of cpu time and memory. I think the main problem is memory. A 486/33 is a decent CPU for these kinds of things - you're not doing math or compiling or anything. Sincerely, Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735 [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the main reasons for the downfall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. - Robert Firth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smbmount /usr possible?
Gunnar Strand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've recently gotten myself a little local network and have decided to run my old 486 as server for exporting its large HD by using samba. My new PC (the client) has both Linux and Win95 bootable + the old 1GB HD. Now, I want to minimize the Linux partition on my client and smbmount the /usr directory from my server. The target is to share every little file that is sharable to maximize the usage of the HD. The best would be (I suppose) to have the same /usr mounted on both hosts. However, debian seems to use /usr to store vital installation information which will cause conflicts if I manage to smbmount that directory. What do you mean by vital installation information? Debian strives to put every configuration file into /etc, so I guess I didn´t understand the problem. If you run Debian on both machines, there´s no easy solution for keeping the dpkg database up to date on both servers. I would try mounting /usr from the server with the big hd and propagate /etc in another way. Jens --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 2048/E451C639 Jens Ritter Key fingerprint: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 Nothing works better as it is supposed to. (Steven Chu) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dosemu resolution
Many thanks to all those who gave me their thoughts on dosemu. I got it up and running yesterday. Here's what I did: 1) Boot dos6.22. 2) Sys a floppy 3) boot Linux 4) run dosemu using the boot floppy C: drive is the supplied hdimage 5) lredir d: my hard drive dos directory 6) using the hard drive dos directory sys C: 7) change dosemu.conf to bootC and Voila!! everything works very nicely. Thanks -bob Always remember you're unique, just like everybody else. ** * Robert Kerr, The morphing guy. *MS 0441 Sandia National Labs * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Albuquerque NM 87185-0441 * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Phone: (505) 844-8606 * * http://www.et.byu.edu/~kerrr* Fax: (505) 844-9297 * ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dump and 4mm DAT
I use: dump 0uBf 4096000 /dev/st0 A couple of things to notice: 0 This means do a level 0 dump (everything). You'll want to work out a schedule of full/incremental dumps u This means that /etc/dumpdates should be updated. Incrementals backups depend on this data. B This is the length of the media, in bytes. It is important that you make this the length of your tape. I've got a DDS2 drive which has 4GB capacity (native) on 120M tapes. /dev/st0 This is obviously the device file. Yours is probably the same. Philippe BARBELET wrote: Dear debian users, Do you know what are the good parameters to use whith the dump command for a 4mm DAT system ? Tank you. Phil. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing module parameters
On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 10:50:29AM -0400, Hank Fay wrote: Mike, yup, that works fine, thanks. A followup question: the old wrong parameters install still shows up earlier in the boot sequence. Where is that information stored? I'm half-guessing, being new at this thing, that it was compiled into some kind of map when I built the system using the install. ??? Hank Check earlier in the same file. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xmp-1.1.3 plays wrong on AWE32...
What's wrong ? When I try to play a module using oss_seq, it plays the patterns _really_ fast. The oss_mix works like a charm.. platform is a noname alpha, kernel version is 2.1.107. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Once burned...
Hi all, I hope this is the right list for utterly and incredibly new Linux newbies. I had another distribution my machine but it was too old to recognize most of my hardware to I gave it away. I'm waiting now for Debian 2 to start anew but I wanted to be sure my hardware will work with this one. Hope you can help. I have a Logitech TrackMan Marble (same connector as the standard PS/2 port mouse), an HP DeskJet 820 CSE on LPT1, an ATI Video Expression+ (Direct Draw) video card, and a Sound III 336SP Sound Card and 333 modem combination (OEM stuff). The other Linux either didn't recognize any of them or I couldn't figure out how to make it; actually I never had the chance to try the modem. The other Linux did recognize both my hard drives and my CD. Sorry to be so wordy but I'd rather not set it all up again only to find I can't use it. Anyway, is there a way to find out specifically if Debian 2 will be able to support my hardware? Thanks much. NN ||| .___. / \ | O _ O | LINUX LIVES! / \_/ \ .' / \ `.in Gorham, Maine / _| |_ \ (_/ | | \_) \ / __\_-_/__ ~;/ \;~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
squake not working
Hi all! I am having a few problems :-( Am I right in saying that my Neomagic video card should be able to play games such as squake in standard VGA mode? Whenever I try to run squake I get Segmentation fault (core dumped) although I can't find a core anywhere. How do I set this up? Thanks in advance Ian -- Ian Lynagh - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.sol.no/~balchen/igloo/ Oxymoron #14: Alone together -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Once burned...
I just set up a machine sort of like that one . . . From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a Logitech TrackMan Marble (same connector as the standard PS/2 port mouse), use /dev/psaux, I think you need to load a kernel module. an HP DeskJet 820 CSE on LPT1, ATI Video Expression+ (Direct Draw) video card, Should work fine for X, think of it as an ATI Mach 64 and a Sound III 336SP Sound Card Probably SB16 compatible and 333 modem combination (OEM stuff). Watch out . . this might be one of those WinModem type things which only works under Microsoft Windows! The other Linux either didn't recognize any of them or I couldn't figure out how to make it; actually I never had the chance to try the modem. The other Linux did recognize both my hard drives and my CD. Sorry to be so wordy but I'd rather not set it all up again only to find I can't use it. Anyway, is there a way to find out specifically if Debian 2 will be able to support my hardware? see http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html Usually device support is a kernel rather than a distribution issue. Debian 2.0 beta comes with a fairly recent kernel, but you may still want to build your own kernel. I needed to update to 2.0.34 in order to support my 3c905b. - Marsh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nvidia riva 128 - xf86config
Hi, I`m useing a Diamond Viper V330 (Nvidia Riva 128) card but this card isn`t listed in the xf86config. Now my question: where can I get a xf86config which supports the Nvidia Riva 128 chip set? Thanks Olli
ppp analog bonding w/ eql
hi there i am a newbie and was wondering if anyone has or know how to use two modems or more to dial up to a isp and bond all the lines together.. my isp currently uses ascend dial-up servers and supports 56k modems --kim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: older debian release?
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, peter wrote: hi, i've got what may seem a strange request.. i'm looking for an older release of debian. i have a laptop w/ only 2MB RAM and i've been told that one of the older releases of debian will run under 2MB. Try using an older kernel; The 1.2.13 is smaller than 2.0.X, and has support for ELF binaries. With it, I guess debian 1.3.1 should be OK. And you might want to use 1.0.9, smaller still, but I don't know about ELF, maybe you'd have to use debian 0.93R6 which was a.out. Also, you may want to check out http://rsphy1.anu.edu.au/~gpg109/mem.html . I don't know if this address is still valid! See ya, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's Internet! It's all true, and you don't know nothing yet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Once burned...
Hi, I can vouch for the Trackman Marble since I have the exact same thing. :) It works fine for me. All three buttons work in X Windows. If you are using the PS/2 mouse port, make sure you have PS/2 mouse support enabled in your kernel or installed as a module. The module for this psaux. From what I recall, Debian has this setup by default. I can't help you with the other hardware. Sorry. -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP! can't get my email!
Brian == Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Report from server Err Maillock: 'var/spool/pop/bmorgan.pop' Sounds like a qpopper bug I ran into in October 96; pity its still there. My solution was to install cucipop (packaging it in the process). ;-) - PGP E4 70 6E 59 80 6A F5 78 63 32 BC FB 7A 08 53 4C __ _Debian GNU Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] mm mm / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __netgod irc.debian.org mm mm / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / m m m / /__| | | | | |_| |Yes, I'm Linus, and I am your God. mm mm \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ -- Linus, keynote address, Expo 98 GO BLUE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I setup /dev/cdrom ?
i have the same problem,my cdrom is no more accessible (though it's not a indrance for now),i have a pioneer ATAPI CD drive,a regular ide card and the drive is properly configured as slave (my Hard Drive is master),i did not have the problem before when i was having Ontrack Disk Manager but i have removed it knowing linux can work with big drive,but since then,the CD drive stopped working,here's my lilo.conf: boot=/dev/hda2 root=/dev/hda2 compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only do you know if adding the linear parameter would help ??? I don't think it does have anything to do with CDROMs. The CD in your case is /dev/hdb, and in my system /dev/cdrom is symlink to the appropriate device. Can you mount it? (mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom) Does the kernel find the CDROM in boot ? --j -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I get exim to work?
popclient: POP3 +OK 5698 octets reading message 1 (5698 bytes) popclient: SMTP connect to (null) failed Smells like exim is not running, nor inetd is starting it. Do you have something like the following in your inetd.conf: #:MAIL: Mail, news and uucp services. smtpstream tcp nowait mail/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/exim exim -bs ? --j -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
