Which device for scanner?

1998-10-26 Thread Matt Thompson
Hello,

I recently had to re-install because of an 'administrative error'. ;)  I
am now trying to re-setup my UMAX S-6E using SANE.  I remember that I had
to 'mknod' a new sga device, but I can't remember what the major and minor
numbers were.

I've been searching the net and the mailing lists, but I can't remember
where I found the documentation the helped me to set it up originally some
time back.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?  Oh, JIC, here's what dmesg
says:

scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: UMAX  Model: UMAX S-6E Rev: V2.0
  Type:   ScannerANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi generic sga at scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0
  Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100   Rev: R.41
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0
  Vendor: SyQuest   Model: SyJet-S   Rev: 0112
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi removable disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0

TIA for any help :)
Matthew



Re: fs not umounted at CTL-ALT-DEL

1998-10-26 Thread Ionutz Borcoman
"Nathan O. Siemers" wrote:
> 
> Have you possibly added any swap files recently?  A while ago I
> tracked a similar problem to an open swap file that shutdown was not
> releasing before it tried to unmount.
> 
> nathan

Nope, just changed the kernels. Anyhow, my system is in a shape so bad
that it seems that soon I will reinstall all the system. Lucky me that
my users are on a separate partition :)

Ionutz


Re: notebook install fails when formatting ext2 partition

1998-10-26 Thread Jens Ritter
Hi there,

Jens Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[ First problem: strange hang on initialization of ext2 partition]

Still pending.

[ Second problem: no memory left ]

Well, this was a rather striking: "Shoot yourself in the foot".

As mentioned I choose "Do without a swap", so it did.  I disabled
everything from /etc/rc2.d by using lowmem and rescue disc and was
able to log in and run a "cat /proc/meminfo". This showed zero values
for swap...

The system without anything from /etc/rc2.d consumes rather all of the
physical memory of 4 MB (~200 k left).

Jens

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Strange firewall non-function or nag-ware?

1998-10-26 Thread john
Hi!

Last night a friend was showing me the latest and greatest sniffing
toy, Ether-Boy", which he was running from behind a Debian
Masquerading firewall.

The Windows Sniffer thing showed a concerted attack on his LAN thru
the firewall. Parotociols being used included lots of Appltalk and
ICMP.

The Firewall in question has a kernel with only IP, Firewallwalling
and masqerading, _no_ appletalk.

Plus we can't ping thru the thing, so I have severe doubts as to
whether it was real. Running sniffit outside the firewall showed no
traffic to the "offender" excpet if we pinged it or ran at it's ports.

I suspect that the "Ether Boy" is nasty nagware. Or is the firewall
broken?

Opinions welcome. Expert opinions encouraged.

John F.


Re: SB32PNP

1998-10-26 Thread Dave Swegen
On Sun, Oct 25, 1998 at 23:23 -0600, Cristov Russell wrote:
> 
> According to the SB AWE how-to, since I have a PNP card I must load support
> as a module.  Does this mean I do not have to recompile the kernel; I only
> have to build a module for sound or in order to use the module I will need
> to build I must recompile the kernel.  BTW - I'm a little intimidated about
> recompiling at this point.  I've read several references on how to do it but
> it still seems daunting.

I too have a SB32PNP, and found that I did not need to compile the driver
as a module, but could bung it straight into the kernel. I believe this
is because my BIOS is one of them fancy PnP supporting ones. It is a lot
easier than messing about with modules and isapnpconfig etc etc. It might
or might not work for you.

Cheers
Dave

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Re: matrox marvel g200

1998-10-26 Thread Max
You (Joachim Trinkwitz) wrote:
> Max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > S.U.S.E. has a server that supports the Millennium/Mystique G200.  It
> > may work for the Marvel as well, given that the Marvel is a souped up
> > Mystique.  Take a look at:
> > 
> > http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html
> > 
> > I've been using it with no problems for a couple months now.
>
> How did you manage to install it in the debian system? I am struggling 
> with the server since several days.
> 
> Would you mind to give a step by step instruction for the installation 
> (and cc it to my mail address too)?

You'll need to tell me exactly where you're having a problem because I
thought the installation was very simple.  You'll need to get the
xmatrox.tgz and xfsetup.tgz archives.  Assuming that you saved the
archives in /tmp, type the following:

su  (you'll need to enter root password here)
umask 022
gzip -cd /tmp/xmatrox.tgz | tar xvpf -
gzip -cd /tmp/xfsetup.tgz | tar xvpf -
xf86config   (you'll need to specify your video card here!)

Then, make sure that the first two lines of /etc/X11/Xserver are:

/usr/bin/X11/XFCom_Matrox
Console

That's about it as far as I remember.

Max


Re: adding .tmf files to tex

1998-10-26 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Mon, Oct 26, 1998 at 05:30:18PM -0600, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
[.tfm files]
> But how in the world do I get latex to recognize these?  I see a
> number of places I can put them,

Put them in a subdirectory of /usr/local/lib/texmf/fonts/tfm/ (IIRC)
and run texhash as root.



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adding .tmf files to tex

1998-10-26 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

After half a day of stumbling, I've figure out how to produce .tmf files
for latex from plain postscript files.  But how in the world do I get
latex to recognize these?  I see a number of places I can put them,
and I assume that i need some configuration script or another to make 
them work.

help, I'm desperate! :)

rick

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Re: matrox marvel g200

1998-10-26 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "JT" == Joachim Trinkwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[ installation of Matrox G200 ]

JT> Would you mind to give a step by step instruction for the installation 

I also use one of these.

1. get the tar.gz from SUSE's site.

2. extract the XFCom_Matrox file and copy it to /usr/local/bin

3. Change the first line of /etc/X11/Xserver to 
   /usr/local/bin/XFCom_Matrox

4. Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config. The Matrox driver uses the svga section.

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Matrox G200"
VendorName  "Matrox"
BoardName   "G200 AGP"
VideoRam8192
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Driver  "svga"
Device  "Matrox G200"
Monitor "Optiquest 4000DC"
Defaultcolordepth 16
Subsection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1024x768" "640x480" "800x600"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1024x768" "640x480" "800x600"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1024x768" "640x480" "800x600"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   32
Modes   "1024x768" "640x480" "800x600"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

Ciao,
Martin


notebook install fails when formatting ext2 partition

1998-10-26 Thread Jens Ritter

Hallo all,

I have got a black and white 486sx notebook with 4 MB of RAM. 

The Bios is reported as SystemSoft BIOS for 80486/86C388. Version 1.01
( R1.10 ).

For German readers: It is a PAComp notebook (now comtech).

I installed using this layout:

/dev/hda1 32 MB  swap
/dev/hda2 ~300 MBext2
/dev/hda3 ~5MB   minix (temporary root partition during installation)

During initialization of the minix partition there blinks a message
that a code page could not be found (the message is blinking
so short, that it is impossible to read the whole message).

Everything works (reasonably) fine up to the formatting of the ext2
partition:

The swap partition is initialized and the temporary minix root is
copied without problems, too. The dinstall program is started, I "do
without a swap partition" and then try to "initialize a linux
partition". (There are some error messages when starting dinstall,
because the swap is already activated, etc.) 

The initialization takes place (the program counts all the blocks ---
with or without the bad block scan --- with or without the notebooks
power management features enabled) and starts to write the
superblocks. After ~17 - ~33 out of XX the program stops.

The system is blocked, but not the keyboard (every character I type is
displayed) and virtual console switching still works (but same
problem on second console, that the system does not respond). 

If I switch to the second console and activate it, during the
initialization of the ext2 partition, everything works fine.

This happens with disks-i386/2.0.10_1998-07-21.

Ok, after bypassing this, I run into a more severe problem:

I first tried to install with only a 32MB swap partition (and 4 MB
RAM) and failed to get a prompt, because various daemons report

"fork: Cannot allocate memory". 

I then reinstalled with 64 MB of swap. And got the same problem:

Daemons report "Cannot allocate memory" and after swapping
to death, bash does not load because "xmalloc: cannot allocate 8 bytes
(0 bytes allocated)" and "fork: Cannot allocate memory" (with tecra
disks) or "egrep: memory exhausted" and than "/bin/sh: error in loading
shared libraries" (with normal disks). 

This roughly happens at the same stage.  

I can't even shutdown properly, because of "error in loading shared
libraries". 


Any clues?

BTW: bad block scan did not yield any results.


TIA,


Grimaldi

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Re: stupid mistake: /usr/info/dir wiped out!

1998-10-26 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
On Mon, Oct 26, 1998 at 04:38:29PM -0500, Ossama Othman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I did something stupid.  I accidentally erased all but the *.gz files in
> /usr/info.  Could someone please tell me how I can bring my /usr/info
> directory to a consistent state?  I was intending to just erase the
> uncompressed info files but forgot about the 'dir' file.

man install-info(8)

hmm

looks like maybe "install-info -- *" should do it 

-Steve

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stupid mistake: /usr/info/dir wiped out!

1998-10-26 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

I did something stupid.  I accidentally erased all but the *.gz files in
/usr/info.  Could someone please tell me how I can bring my /usr/info
directory to a consistent state?  I was intending to just erase the
uncompressed info files but forgot about the 'dir' file.

Thanks,
-Ossama

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Re: matrox marvel g200

1998-10-26 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> S.U.S.E. has a server that supports the Millennium/Mystique G200.  It
> may work for the Marvel as well, given that the Marvel is a souped up
> Mystique.  Take a look at:
> 
> http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html
> 
> I've been using it with no problems for a couple months now.
> 
How did you manage to install it in the debian system? I am struggling 
with the server since several days.

Would you mind to give a step by step instruction for the installation 
(and cc it to my mail address too)?

Thanks in advance and greetings,
joachim


Re: [Debian]: Re: NumLock

1998-10-26 Thread Martin Bialasinski

Sorry, wrong list. 

fsck. I have to filter debian-user-de into a folder of its own...

Ciao,
Martin


installing non-debian software :O

1998-10-26 Thread Andrew
Well, I tried to install some non-debian software in the weekend (:O!
The two heretical pieces were tkgoodstuff, and the blackbox wm. 

My understanding is that non-debian stuff should go in /usr/local/bin and
/usr/local/lib, is that right? I had to edit the Makefiles to do this.

Also, the blackbox configure/Makefile rigmarole seemed a little confused: it
tried to put things into /usr/local/bin/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults or
somesuch, which doesn't exist. I got a bit fed up and tried to make install it
without altering the makefiles (having run a make distclean beforehand) but it
had the same problems. 

I edited the Makefile to point to the
appropriate place, but even now blackbox was expecting to find the
app-defaults in /usr/X11R6/lib/lib/X11/app-defaults (note the repeated "lib")
which I was forced to create to appease the damn thing. It runs now, but the
"Reconfigure" menu option (which I guess configures the WM) doesn't do
anything. 

Any thoughts on the matter? Do other people typically hack Makefiles to
install non debianized software? 

-- 

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"We were so close to heaven --- Peter came out and gave us badges, 
proclaiming us `The Nicest of the Damned'" 
-- They Might Be Giants


Experience with IBM Thinkpad 300CSE

1998-10-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Does anyone have experience installing Debian (Hamm/Slink) on an IBM
Thinkpad 300CSE?  My father got me an early xmas present.  486-50(?), 20Mb
RAM, 350Mb HD.  It has Win95 on it now.  I don't really need X, just curious
as to how well Linux will like such a beast.  

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Re: Off Topic: Picture of GNU and Linux at netgod.net

1998-10-26 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "c" == chadi  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

c> i checked the site out, so why did they call it Debian GNU/Linux
c> anyway, what does the GNU mean ? ... isnt that an acronym or
c> something ?

GNU means "GNU's Not Unix".

Checkout http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-2.html#ss2.1 and
http://www.gnu.org 

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Off Topic: Picture of GNU and Linux at netgod.net

1998-10-26 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "PHBdO" == Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

PHBdO> Or know why the page is down?

stu loast netgod at the ALS.

Ask him at #debian on irc.debian.org, why he has not found him yet :-)

Ciao,
Martin


Re: [Debian]: Re: NumLock

1998-10-26 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "EF" == Elmar Fasel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

EF> Unter X konnte ich zudem feststellen, daß bei aktivertem NumLock das
EF> aktuelle Fenster den Focus behält und kein anderes Fenster per Mausklick
EF> den Focus erhalten kann (außer durch Taskbar-klick), scheint also mit
EF> fvwm-95 zusammenzuhängen.

Nein. Unter X ist numlock ein Modifier wi alt, meta, shift, control,
super etc.

D.h. alt + ->  (cursor rechts) z.b. ist ein anderer Event als 
 numlock + alt + ->

Du müsstest also die Config von fvwm95 anpassen, damit es mouse1 und
numlock + mouse1 gleichbehandelt.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Off Topic: Picture of GNU and Linux at netgod.net

1998-10-26 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, Oct 27, 1998 at 03:29:03AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> i checked the site out, so why did they call it Debian GNU/Linux
> anyway, what does the GNU mean ? ... isnt that an acronym or
> something ?

Ordinarily, a gnu is a large animal, also known as a wildebeest,
AFAIK.  In computerese, GNU is an acronym for 'GNU's Not Unix'.

Next time, do not blind-carbon-copy the list.  It breaks my
reply-to-list system.



Antti-Juhani
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Re: conflicts in Debian Distributions

1998-10-26 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
On Mon, Oct 26, 1998 at 09:38:46PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 1998 at 11:05:42AM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> 
> The point Kenneth is making is true.  However:
> 
> > You can't have two (or more) mail clients installed at the same
> > time,
> ...
> > There are at least half a dozen window managers in X for example,
> > you can only use one.  Here though all may be copied to the disk,
> > but only one may be 'installed'.
> 
> Both of these examples are bogus.  You can have as many mail clients
> (mail user agents, MUA) installed as you want.  

[snip]

> The real problem is with system daemons.  For example: you cannot run
> two different mail transfer agents (MTA) on one system simultaneously.
> But this is not a problem, as you don't want to run more than one MTA.

remembering back to the original post which started this discussion
the proposal was to have an "Install everything". 

While the idea that conflicts can all be resolved and we can have NO conflicts
is wrong, I think this would be doable.

Why not just install every package that doesn't conflict with anything
that has a higher priority? I think an option like that could be
very usefull for someone who wants "Everything". This could easily be
made one of the "Pre-selections" at install time.

> 
> > I would agree however, that a good description of each package would
> > help you decide what to install.
> 
> Please tell me, what you would consider a good description!  Feel free
> to pick some packages and rewrite their descriptions; you can post the
> results here (or to debian-devel, if you prefer) for public scrutiny.

Also if a description is really bad... you are free to file
a wishlist big against the package with an updated version of the
description ;)

-Steve

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Re: what is "invalid ICMP error" ?

1998-10-26 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Mon, Oct 26, 1998 at 04:59:30AM +, Ionutz Borcoman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My kernel is reporting:
> 
>  borco-ei kernel: 133.87.240.13 sent an invalid ICMP error to a
> broadcast.
> 
> What and how bad is this ?

A machine has told your machine a different route to go through, but it
isn't allowed to do this to a broadcast packet.  Check that the netmask on
the router and your machine match (use "ifconfig").  If they do then either
ignore it or complain :-)

At work I get so many of these messages I comment out the offending printk
in /usr/local/src/linux/net/ipv4/icmp.c

Adrian

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SIS5591 Bootproblems, help

1998-10-26 Thread Marcus Geiger
Hi folks,

I am still trying to boot a linux installation kernel. My system uses
two SCSI disks attached on a Adaptec 2940UW. My IDE-Atapi cdrom is
connected to my onboard IDE controller (chipset SIS5591).

My problem is that I can only boot one of my kernels I have on floppy
disks or cdroms, when I manually disable the onboard IDE-Controller in
the system bios, or when I start loadlin with the kernel parameter
"hda=none".

Please help me with this terrible problem.

Marcus


where can I find previous versions of vim and apt?

1998-10-26 Thread Anthony Campbell
While experimenting with dselect I inadvertently deleted vim and apt, which I
had previously obtained from slink. I fetched the current versions but both
have dependency problems.

Is there anywhere I can find the earlier versions in slink (vim_5.3-7.deb and
I can't remember which version of apt) or do I have to wait until slink is
available as a cd?

It's too expensive in phone time to download all the dependencies (which will
probably require further downloads to make them compatible...)


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Re: conflicts in Debian Distributions

1998-10-26 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Mon, Oct 26, 1998 at 11:05:42AM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote:

The point Kenneth is making is true.  However:

> You can't have two (or more) mail clients installed at the same
> time,
...
> There are at least half a dozen window managers in X for example,
> you can only use one.  Here though all may be copied to the disk,
> but only one may be 'installed'.

Both of these examples are bogus.  You can have as many mail clients
(mail user agents, MUA) installed as you want.  You can have as many
window managers installed as you want.  This is a good thing.  I (and
our sysadmin) like Mutt but most people here like Pine; it would be a
pain in the butt saying to others that they can't use Pine because we
like Mutt and one can't install both.  Similarly, different people
like different window managers.  The point is that these all are
*user* programs, so can coexist in a system.

The real problem is with system daemons.  For example: you cannot run
two different mail transfer agents (MTA) on one system simultaneously.
But this is not a problem, as you don't want to run more than one MTA.
You pick one, it's your call as the sysadmin, and your choice isn't
such a big problem to users because to most of them MTAs are (nearly)
all alike - they provide the same services in a uniform manner (save
qmail).

> I would agree however, that a good description of each package would
> help you decide what to install.

Please tell me, what you would consider a good description!  Feel free
to pick some packages and rewrite their descriptions; you can post the
results here (or to debian-devel, if you prefer) for public scrutiny.



Antti-Juhani

Ps. No, these systems I was referring to are not Debian boxen (they
run Solaris or RedHat depending on machine), but a) it is not
important to my point and b) it's not my decision, I'm not the
sysadmin here.
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Re: Off Topic: Picture of GNU and Linux at netgod.net

1998-10-26 Thread chadi
i checked the site out, so why did they call it Debian GNU/Linux anyway, what 
does the GNU mean ? ... isnt that an acronym or something ?

>It is not a cow it is a gnu.
>
>From: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm
>
>Main Entry: gnu
>Pronunciation: 'nü also 'nyü
>Function: noun
>Inflected Form(s): plural gnu or gnus
>Etymology: Khoikhoi t'gnu
>Date: 1777
>: either of two large African antelopes (Connochaetes gnou and
>C. taurinus) with a head like that of an ox, short mane, long
>tail, and horns in both sexes that curve downward and outward
>
>And I couldn't get to the site either.  Just keep trying I am sure it
>will be up soon.
>
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Re: Off Topic: Picture of GNU and Linux at netgod.net

1998-10-26 Thread Mitch Blevins
Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:
>   Hi Debian users,
>   I'm trying to access http://www.netgod.net to keep a picture of cow and 
> =
> penguim of GNU and Linux to put in a work but the page is down.
>   Anyone have this picture?
>   Or know why the page is down?
>   Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique

 I thought it was a cow and a chicken.  Either way, you can
 get it at http://blevins.simplenet.com/cow_and_penguin.gif

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Re: Off Topic: Picture of GNU and Linux at netgod.net

1998-10-26 Thread Mitch Blevins
Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:
>   Hi Debian users,
>   I'm trying to access http://www.netgod.net to keep a picture of cow and 
> penguim of GNU and Linux to put in a work but the page is down.
>   Anyone have this picture?
>   Or know why the page is down?
>   Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique

 I thought it was a cow and a chicken.  Either way, you can
 get it at http://blevins.simplenet.com/cow_and_penguin.gif

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conflicts in Debian Distributions

1998-10-26 Thread Kenneth Scharf
Simple answer... You CANNOT install everything on the CD.  But this is
not a bug.  Debian provides you with at least two ways (maybe more) of
doing everything.  Many of these packages cannot co-exist.  You can't
have two (or  more) mail clients installed at the same time,  kaos
would result!  But debain provides several of them so you can pick the
one that suits your needs best.  There are at least half a dozen
window managers in X for example, you can only use one.  Here though
all may be copied to the disk, but only one may be 'installed'.  There
is a difference between being copied to disk, and installed to run.  

I would agree however, that a good description of each package would
help you decide what to install.

---
I just would like to know if Debian 2.0 has conflicting software
in it like Debian 1.3.1 .  

Background:  Debian 1.3.1 would not let you install all the software
in the release.  Installing all the software in the release saves a
lot of time, and hard drive space is cheeper than time.  

I have used Debian 1.3.1 in the past but I think that having packages
that confict is a bad thing.  I think that making all the packages
in Debian compatable would be a big plus.  In Debian 1.3.1 this is
not the cast.  For example you cannot install emacs and xemacs in
Debian 1.3.1 .
I'm guessing some of the filenames in these two packages are the same.
To get rid of this confict you can just install them in different
directories or
something like that.  

It's a pain to have to pick through 1000 + packages to install.  I
prefer to just
install all of them without picking through them.  Hard disk space is
now cheep,
and




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Re: Staroffice 4.0

1998-10-26 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
> Is there an installer for StarOffice 4.0?
no :)

ANd there's not likely to be one.  A few have started work on it, but 
there's somehting tricky about it. And 5.0 is just around the corner, 
so why bother?  But i've had no problems using it's 
own installer; just tell it you want to use /usr/local/Office40.  I 
also use an alias of so 

   ~/Office40/bin/soffice &

to launch it; you launch from the file the installer puts in your home 
directory.

rick
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long LAN

1998-10-26 Thread chadi
Hello,
  I know you are the guys who has the real experience about these kinds of 
things and I was just wondering if you can give me suggestions as to how I may 
go about with this something that i just thought of.
  What do you think is the best way (or any other way you can think of) for us 
to link our local LAN to another LAN (same school, diff. campus) about 800-1000 
meters away without having to resort to phone lines or leased lines.  This is 
far too much for coax or UTP right ? ... Is there any way around this and still 
get like 500++ kbps tranfers ?
  Any suggestions will be very much appreciated,
Chad


Re: Off Topic: Picture of GNU and Linux at netgod.net

1998-10-26 Thread servis
*- Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote about "Off Topic: Picture of GNU 
and Linux at netgod.net"
|   Hi Debian users,
|   I'm trying to access http://www.netgod.net to keep a picture of cow and 
penguim of GNU and Linux to put in a work but the page is down.
|   Anyone have this picture?
|   Or know why the page is down?
|   Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
| 
| 

It is not a cow it is a gnu.

From: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm

Main Entry: gnu
Pronunciation: 'nü also 'nyü
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural gnu or gnus
Etymology: Khoikhoi t'gnu
Date: 1777
: either of two large African antelopes (Connochaetes gnou and 
C. taurinus) with a head like that of an ox, short mane, long 
tail, and horns in both sexes that curve downward and outward 

And I couldn't get to the site either.  Just keep trying I am sure it
will be up soon.

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 because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." 
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Re: Configuring a mail client

1998-10-26 Thread Clovis Sena/Servicos Recife
Nikolai Andreyevich Luzan wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Clovis Sena/Servicos Recife wrote:
> 
> > I´m having a problem in configuring a mail client, that we can
> resume
> > this way: in a client machine i have to configure the mail client to
> > access the mail server, so what are the files to check it out??
> which Client? it make all the difference in the world.
> 
> Nikolai

Sorry for that, I was using XWindows with xmh and/or xmailtool, and i
couldn´t find any conf file.

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Off Topic: Picture of GNU and Linux at netgod.net

1998-10-26 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Hi Debian users,
I'm trying to access http://www.netgod.net to keep a picture of cow and 
penguim of GNU and Linux to put in a work but the page is down.
Anyone have this picture?
Or know why the page is down?
Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique


Corrupted links in rcXXX.d in Debian2.0

1998-10-26 Thread MarioGiammarco
Hello to everyone,

I have corrupted by mistake links in /etc/rcXXX.d.

How can I reconstruct the right links to reflect my actual setup?

Thank You in advance for your replies

Mario Giammarco 
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Re: Help with E-Mail

1998-10-26 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-"James Robert Lunsford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|
| I'm lost here.  I've read the docs that came with smail and fetchmail but am
| totally confused.

My first piece of advice is to replace smail with exim. Not everyone
will agree with me, but I think it is better.

| If someone could give me some pointers, steps to follow, or signs to look
| for, I'd be really
| grateful.  A step by step setup guide would be great.  It doesn't have to be
| incredibly detailed
| but the more the better.

I'm sure we can guide you through, but we need a more detailed account of
your system. Are you on dialup or permanent connection? (and other things
that might be relevant)

Fetchmail shouldn't be too hard to set up. Here is a sample:

poll ifi.uio.no proto pop3 user olet password 
mda "deliver olet"
fetchall

Note that I use 'deliver' instead of exim for local delivery. I can't
remember why. :-)

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Staroffice 4.0

1998-10-26 Thread Robert Rati
Is there an installer for StarOffice 4.0?

Rob

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Re: XDM and XDMCP

1998-10-26 Thread Steve Rothanburg
In the XDM manpages(in the chooser section), it says you can set up XDM to use 
chooser to
give a list of hosts you can connect to. I haven't really had time to look at 
it, but it
says it'll use the chooser for indirect XDMCP connections. But it sounds like 
what you
really want is something that I've seen on our suns. The login on the suns 
gives an option
to connect to other servers. I honestly don't know if the is anything like that 
available
for Linux, but I'd like to see it.

Steve

Michael Beattie wrote:

> If you say the host is already configured (Which is good), And win9x
> clients can connect, How can I tell my X Server to connect to the remote
> host? i.e. bring up a login screen on :1 when the host is available?


RE: StarOffice

1998-10-26 Thread Christian Lavoie
>   I'm not sure what you mean by 'Linux part'.  What will 
> hopefully happen
> is someone building a .deb installer for it, like with Netscape.

Actually, it was more or less what I had in mind.


Re: floppy0: Unable to allocate DMA memory

1998-10-26 Thread Pere Camps
Torsten,

> I usually write a little c program which allocate some MB of memory,
> afterward there is usually enough memory for DMA available.

A fellow debianiter has told me to use 'swapout' from the ftape
package. So far it works!

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Re: floppy0: Unable to allocate DMA memory

1998-10-26 Thread Pere Camps
Kenneth,

> 1: 86 your floppy and get an LS120 drive.  If your computer has it's
> IDE interface on the PCI side it will have access to all of memory
> space.

Don't have the money.

> 2: 86 your ISA sound card and buy a PCI sound card.  Same story as
> above.

Don't have the money.

:-(

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Re: floppy0: Unable to allocate DMA memory

1998-10-26 Thread Pere Camps
Ray,

>  The PC architecture cannot do DMA above 16MB. It's just not possible.
> Since the PC was designed to run in less than 640KB, no one ever expected
> it to be a problem. You have over 90MB of RAM, so now it's a problem for
> you.

Thank you very much for your message. It was very descriptive.

>  4. Use the 'swapout' program (from ftape) which tries to force the kernel
> to swap out a contiguous chunk of RAM below 16MB. 

I'm installing it right now. Let's see what happens.

It looks like it does work. Thanks.

>  5. Use an Alpha or SPARC.

Would you give it to me? ;)

>  6. Pull out some SIMMS and only install 16MB of RAM.

And what do I do with Netscape, The Gimp and Staroffice 4.0? ;)

>  7. Go back in time and shoot the PC engineers.

If I had the oportunity, I should would have.


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Re: tar and the braindead man

1998-10-26 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
On Mon, Oct 26, 1998 at 08:31:20AM -0600, Anthony Landreneau wrote:
> Ok Kenneth,
>I must be missing something here, other than my mind of course.  This is
> the requirment:
> I have a tape with a tar file on it, lets call it thefile.tar .  I need to
> make two copies of that file, back on two other tapes.  So I will have
> three tapes with three identical copies of this tar file.
>I got thefile.tar off of the original tape using 
> 
> tar -xv ./thefile.tar -C /usr/thedirectorystore

With you so far :)
 
>The tar file is now on the hard drive.  Now I want to put it back onto
> tape, gee, simple minded me thought
> 
> tar -cv ./thefile.tar -C /usr/thedirectorystore

Try 
tar xvf ./thefile.tar /usr/thedirectorystore

(I am assumeing ./thefile.tar is actually /dev/st0 or some
other tape device??)

note: I leave off the '-' - tar is an ancient program and doesn't need them ;)
its just how I learned to use it ;)


Why don't you just do this (I am assuming /dev/st0 is your tape device...
if it isn't then substitute it for what I use here)

cp /dev/st0 thetarfile
{switch tapes}
cp thetarfile /dev/st0
{switch tapes}
cp thetarfile /dev/st0 

I THINK that should work.

-Steve

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lprng and disabling network printer

1998-10-26 Thread Pere Camps
Hi!

How do you disable the 'printer' port for remote connections if
you're using lprng?

Thanks!

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Re: HELP: Repair of tar.gz files??

1998-10-26 Thread Rick Younie
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>  Rick Younie wrote:
> > If the file was corrupted by being transferred in ascii mode
> > instead of binary, you can fix it.  There's a program in the
> > window's world called NOCRLF that will do it.  Or if you have a
> > language or a good hex editor, replace the carriage return/line
> > feed pairs with a linefeed and that will fix.
>  
>  No, generally you can't fix binary files downloaded in ASCII mode.  The CR
>  -> CR/LF transformation is irreversible for binary files.  That is, there
>  may have been some (valid) CR/LF's in the binary file at first, which will
>  then be converted into CR's by the reverse transformation.
>  
>  If you're lucky it might work, though.

Yeah, when the tech on my ISP posted this I emailed him directly
rather than posting to the newsgroup so as not to embarrass him.
We've probably all heard 'irretrievably corrupted' many times
over the years; it's common knowledge.

But it works.  I've done it and it never fails if this is the
cause of the corruption.  As he patiently explained to me, it
works because any legal cr/lf's are converted to cr/cr/lf and you
convert them back to cr/lf.  If you were doing this recursively,
that would be a problem.

Best,
Rick


X window problem

1998-10-26 Thread Smith, Brian N.
Hello all



I have a Dell Optiplex Gxa that I am attempting to install X windows on.

I can get XF86Setup to run , can setup the mouse properly, than comes the
chipset.  I believe I have an ATI Rage Pro , closest to it are at the bottom
of the ATI section of the list.  When I install these and try to bring up X
window the following happens

Attempting to start X server

_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect Can't Connect error111


Then trying to bring up the X windows server again results in the following

Can't read "messages (phase 2.1)": no such variable
While executing
"label $w.waitmsg -text $messages (phase2.1"
(file"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XFSetup/phase2.tcl" line 25
invoked from within
"source /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Setup/phase2.tcl"


I have tried the generic VGA driver and several others with the same results

Does anybody have this type of machine?  And what driver did you use

What are some of the error messages indicating?

Thanks in advance


Brian Smith


Re: tar and the braindead man

1998-10-26 Thread Rob Collins
On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Anthony Landreneau wrote:

> Ok Kenneth,
>I must be missing something here, other than my mind of course.  This is
> the requirment:
> I have a tape with a tar file on it, lets call it thefile.tar .  I need to
> make two copies of that file, back on two other tapes.  So I will have
> three tapes with three identical copies of this tar file.

Okay, so you dump the data to disk (tar xv ), and retar it to
tape (tar cvf  ).  But it looks like the data you got
off tape is a tarred archive -- so someone probably created the tarball,
and cat'd it onto tape -- or I could be wrong.  ;)
To cat a file to tape, try;
cat  > 
... which you can now do to create the other 2 tapes.

>
>I got thefile.tar off of the original tape using 
> 
> tar -xv ./thefile.tar -C /usr/thedirectorystore
> 
>The tar file is now on the hard drive.  Now I want to put it back onto
> tape, gee, simple minded me thought
> 
> tar -cv ./thefile.tar -C /usr/thedirectorystore
> 
> and bingo, but that doesn't seems to be happening.  Any ideas on how I can
> complete this task?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Anthony
> 
> >Close, but no cigar. 
> >
> >syntax is:
> >
> >tar -cvf /dev/tapedevice /usr/thedirectory.
> >
> >To make a full backup I did:
> >
> >tar -cvf /dev/st0 / --exclude /dev --exclude /proc
> >
> >(my tape drive is a scsi rdat on /dev/st0)  This command backed up
> >everything, except the dev and proc directories.  (I had some BAD
> >things happen trying to access the devices as files, and you don't
> >need to backup the /proc directory as it does NOT exist on the disk.) 
> >Don't leave your cd rom mounted for this or it will get backed up
> >also, why waste 650MB of tape for something that can't be trashed?!
> >
> >
> >-
> >Greetings,
> >Got what I thought was a simple problem. I have a 2GB DAT tape
> >drive, a
> >directory that I want to backup to that tape drive.  Seems simple
> >enough,
> >but I can't seem to get it to work. I thought the command was:
> >tar -cvf thetarfile.tar /usr/thedirectory
> >
> >But it isn't working.  Now I have created a tar file on the hard drive,
> >and
> >thought it would be just as easy to move the file to tape, but I can't
> >figure that out either.  Tried mounting the tape drive and the machine
> >mocks me openly.  Any and all help would be apprciated!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: StarOffice

1998-10-26 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

> What I mean by the Linux part is that there IS a version freely available. I
> agree there's no real "part" of linux in StarOffice.

> Copyright laws applies when things are free?

Yep, absolutely.  The author has the absolute right to determine the 
terms under which it is made freely available.  Even linux is 
copyrighted, though by a complex web of authors.  And for all it's 
rhetoric, the GPL "copyleft" depends upon the copyright laws that its 
authors lash out at :)

rick, esq.

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RE: Still having Printer Problems

1998-10-26 Thread Kent West
At 06:18 AM 10/26/1998 -0600, you wrote:
>OK, this is how my printcap looks.  I still get the insidious message
>'transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed'
>What could be causing this? OR, what can I change in my printcap that
>mught get my printer working.
>It is an HP660C but I would think I could still get garbage out of it by
>typing 'lp test'?
>
>
>Is there anything special I need to do to set up magicfilter other than
>put it in my printcap?
>
>
>
>
> lp:\
>
>:lp=/dev/lp1:\
>:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
>:mx#0:\
>:sh:
>:if=/usr/sbin/magicfilter:\

Okay, after specifying the options in printcap, you then need to tell lpr
to read that file. You can reboot (but why reboot? this ain't winders) or
you can issue the command:
lpc reread all
This tells lpr/lpc to read all the entries in printcap. Or you could just say:
lpc reread lp
to read just the lp entries (if you had 20 printers defined, you might want
to do this).

Then to double-check what lpr/lpc read, issue the command:
lpc printcap all

I'd run this last command first, to see if the printer utility knows about
the changes you've made in printcap, then do the "lpc reread all" command,
then run the "lpc printcap all" command again to make sure the changes were
read. Now try printing and see what happens.

Kent


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Re: Installation

1998-10-26 Thread Rodrigo Moya
>No - make a linux boot disk - you need the rescue disk, drivers disks and
>base system disks - the images for these are on the CDROM, along with
>rawrite to write them to floppies,
>
Sorry again (I'm so busy today that I've got no time to think about what I
am writing), but I've tried everything: booting from cd, from a DOS boot
disk, from a Linux boot disk. The only thing I have not tried is to copy CD
to a hard disk and install without a CD ROM: Maybe it's like this. But I
really want linux to use my CD

Thanks


RE: Crash

1998-10-26 Thread Person, Rod
Whenever I shutdown my home machine it says. System has halted and if I
reboot it says system is rebooting.

Crash doesn't sound to good to me either
Rod Person

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 Contempt

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> From: Andreas Kahari[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 9:37 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Crash
> 
> Hi all!
> 
> At work, if I reboot my Solaris workstation, the "last" command
> reports
> something like
> 
> rebootsystem boot   Fri Oct 23 09:54 
> 
> or
> 
> andreas   console  :0   Thu Aug  6 11:24 - down
> (06:19)
> 
> but at home, with Debian 2.0, it simply states that my system has
> "crashed" at a specific time.
> 
> Should I worry?
> 
> I usually run "halt" as root to bring my system down, the same thing
> happens if I run "reboot" as root.
> 
> Everything works well, it's just that "crash" feels a little bit
> worrying, it ought to say "down" or "reboot"...
> 
> /A
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Re: Installation

1998-10-26 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Rodrigo Moya wrote:

> >On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> >
> >> >Hmm... it might seem silly, but try putting a CDROM in the drive - my
> >> >system took _ages_ until I did this - looking at the logs showed it was
> >> >trying in vain to find a FS on the  CD drive...
> >> >
> >> >Matthew
> >> >
> >> I am booting linux from cd-rom
> >
> >Ah In that case, try making a set of boot floppies (rescue and drivers
> >disks, and possibly the base system too) - some vendor's CDs don't boot
> >very well..
> >
> Well, I meant that I boot from cd or from a MSDOS boot disk, then access the
> CD and run boot.bat. In both cases the result is the same.

No - make a linux boot disk - you need the rescue disk, drivers disks and
base system disks - the images for these are on the CDROM, along with
rawrite to write them to floppies,

Matthew

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Re: tar and the braindead man

1998-10-26 Thread Kenneth Scharf





---Anthony Landreneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok Kenneth,
>I must be missing something here, other than my mind of course. 
This is
> the requirment:
> I have a tape with a tar file on it, lets call it thefile.tar .  I
need to
> make two copies of that file, back on two other tapes.  So I will have
> three tapes with three identical copies of this tar file.
>I got thefile.tar off of the original tape using 
> 
> tar -xv ./thefile.tar -C /usr/thedirectorystore
>
Ok your tape has a tar image on it.  NOT a file.  Tar files are a
collection of files (sortof like a .zip file is, only not compressed).
 A tar file is an arcive.  Now streaming tapes don't have file systems
on them (ususally).  So when you use tar to archive a collection of
files (say the contents of a given directory) you can create a tar
image IN A FILE on your disk, or you can write the image to the tape. 
Now when you want to extract the image from the tape (thereby
re-creating the directory on the disk) the command is

tar -xvf /dev/st0

which will extract the directory and all files to the disk.  You must
give an arguement to tell tar where on the disk to place the files. 
It can place them at the original locations (which you don't want),
into the current directory, or a specific directory.  I don't have the
tar manual in front of me so I can't help here.  




 
>The tar file is now on the hard drive.  Now I want to put it back
onto
> tape, gee, simple minded me thought
> 
> tar -cv ./thefile.tar -C /usr/thedirectorystore
> 

Once you have extracted the directory back to the disk, to write it
out to a new tape just

tar -cvf /dev/st0 /the_extracted_directory

The -xf option specifies the SOURCE for extraction

the -cf option specifies the DESTINATION for creation.

Note that if you really had a tar file on your disk, then to extract
the directory (into the current directory where the .tar file is) the
command is

tar -xvf tarfile.tar

which assumes that the current directory has a file named tarfile.tar
and the extracted directory structure will be created in the current
directory.

> and bingo, but that doesn't seems to be happening.  Any ideas on how
I can
> complete this task?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Anthony
> 
> >Close, but no cigar. 
> >
> >syntax is:
> >
> >tar -cvf /dev/tapedevice /usr/thedirectory.
> >
> >To make a full backup I did:
> >
> >tar -cvf /dev/st0 / --exclude /dev --exclude /proc
> >
> >(my tape drive is a scsi rdat on /dev/st0)  This command backed up
> >everything, except the dev and proc directories.  (I had some BAD
> >things happen trying to access the devices as files, and you don't
> >need to backup the /proc directory as it does NOT exist on the
disk.) 
> >Don't leave your cd rom mounted for this or it will get backed up
> >also, why waste 650MB of tape for something that can't be trashed?!
> >
> >
> >-
> >Greetings,
> >Got what I thought was a simple problem. I have a 2GB DAT
tape
> >drive, a
> >directory that I want to backup to that tape drive.  Seems simple
> >enough,
> >but I can't seem to get it to work. I thought the command was:
> >tar -cvf thetarfile.tar /usr/thedirectory
> >
> >But it isn't working.  Now I have created a tar file on the hard
drive,
> >and
> >thought it would be just as easy to move the file to tape, but I
can't
> >figure that out either.  Tried mounting the tape drive and the
machine
> >mocks me openly.  Any and all help would be apprciated!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Installation

1998-10-26 Thread Rodrigo Moya
>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
>
>> >Hmm... it might seem silly, but try putting a CDROM in the drive - my
>> >system took _ages_ until I did this - looking at the logs showed it was
>> >trying in vain to find a FS on the  CD drive...
>> >
>> >Matthew
>> >
>> I am booting linux from cd-rom
>
>Ah In that case, try making a set of boot floppies (rescue and drivers
>disks, and possibly the base system too) - some vendor's CDs don't boot
>very well..
>
Well, I meant that I boot from cd or from a MSDOS boot disk, then access the
CD and run boot.bat. In both cases the result is the same.


Re: Configuring a mail client

1998-10-26 Thread Nikolai Andreyevich Luzan
On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Clovis Sena/Servicos Recife wrote:

> I´m having a problem in configuring a mail client, that we can resume
> this way: in a client machine i have to configure the mail client to
> access the mail server, so what are the files to check it out?? 
which Client? it make all the difference in the world.

Nikolai


Re: conflicts in Debian Distributions

1998-10-26 Thread Daniel Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lance Arsenault) writes:

> I just would like to know if Debian 2.0 has conflicting software
> in it like Debian 1.3.1 .  
> 
> Background:  Debian 1.3.1 would not let you install all the software
> in the release.  Installing all the software in the release saves a
> lot of time, and hard drive space is cheeper than time.  

Yes, Debian 2.0 also has this feature.  No, it is NOT a problem.
While it may cause (a very small amount of) extra thought at install
time, this is really a benefit to the user.  Besides, the 2.0 setup is 
streamlined so that common configurations can be selected easily at
install time.

> I have used Debian 1.3.1 in the past but I think that having
> packages that confict is a bad thing.  I think that making all the
> packages in Debian compatable would be a big plus.  In Debian 1.3.1
> this is not the cast.  For example you cannot install emacs and
> xemacs in Debian 1.3.1 .  I'm guessing some of the filenames in
> these two packages are the same.  To get rid of this confict you can
> just install them in different directories or something like that.

Well, what do you mean by making all the packages in Debian
compatible?  We would end up with a totally unuseable system.  What do 
you propose we do with, say, the multiple mail delivery programs?
Should I be able to install sendmail, exim, smail, qmail, etc. and
have my machine magically know which one is in charge of getting mail?
Better to have the packages conflict, so that I can make the choice
through the install program, rather than hunting down and disabling
the programs I don't need.

> It's a pain to have to pick through 1000 + packages to install.  I
> prefer to just install all of them without picking through them.
> Hard disk space is now cheep, and time is not.

But by installing everything at once you just move the time burden
around; you don't eliminate it.  You still will have to make decisions 
about which package you use for which task.

Now, perhaps your complaint about install time has to do with the
incredible slowness of the dpkg-cd access method.  This I can
sympathize with - hunting through all the packages to find new ones is
potentially more reliable, but much too slow.  Try adding your CD
drive to /etc/fstab and using the dpkg-mountable method - it is much
faster.

The basic "problem" of conflicting packages is a direct consequence of
the choice Debian offers to users by providing all these
alternatives.  I would rather have a choice than not.

What Debian should do is have a standard list of packages which comes
preselected right after the install, and which the user could tweak
before the first install run in case they wanted to add something
initially.  This standard set shouldn't have any internal conflicts,
so that people can just install the standard set right away.  But
wait!  We already _do_ do this.  What might be nice is having some
help during installation that forced users to realize that "install
everything" is not a sensible option.  This is not spelled out as
loudly as it should be.


Re: conflicts in Debian Distributions

1998-10-26 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
[ about conflicts when installing everything in debian ]

Jack Nutting wrote:
> That being said, perhaps there should be a predefined
> installation selection (among the listed configurations you get
> when you run dselect on a new installation) where something as
> close as possible to "everything" is installed.  So if there are
> multiple, conflicting versions of a library or tool, the newest
> stable version would be installed;  Where there are conflicts
> between functionally overlapping packages (like
> smail/sendmail/exim as you mentioned above), perhaps it should
> install none of them, and output into a log file some
> human-readable summary of which conflicting packages the user may
> want to choose from, so they can easily see what they might want
> to go back and install later.  Just some ideas...

In fact that could be done with the profiles offered on a new
debian 2.0 installation (maybe it is done, I don't remember the
options).  Is there a way to get into this `profile selection'
later on, when you have debian up and running?

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Re: Installation

1998-10-26 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Rodrigo Moya wrote:

> >Hmm... it might seem silly, but try putting a CDROM in the drive - my
> >system took _ages_ until I did this - looking at the logs showed it was
> >trying in vain to find a FS on the  CD drive...
> >
> >Matthew
> >
> I am booting linux from cd-rom

Ah In that case, try making a set of boot floppies (rescue and drivers
disks, and possibly the base system too) - some vendor's CDs don't boot
very well..

Matthew

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Re: StarOffice

1998-10-26 Thread Ed Cogburn
Christian Lavoie wrote:
> 
> >   StarOffice is probably non-free, thus no one besides the company who
> > created it can legally redistribute it.
> 
> There a few side-solutions then:
> 
> - Debian community asks StarDiv the permission
> - StarDiv does it on its own
> - There's a script used to install StarOffice 3.0 The same could? be done
> for 4.0 and 5.0
> 
> Now, for legal matters: Since StarOffice isn't free, we can't theorically
> distribute it. But the Linux part of it is. Which takes precedence?
 ^^


I'm not sure what you mean by 'Linux part'.  What will hopefully happen
is someone building a .deb installer for it, like with Netscape.


-- 
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Re: conflicts in Debian Distributions

1998-10-26 Thread Jack Nutting
Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Lance Arsenault wrote:
>
> > Background:  Debian 1.3.1 would not let you install all the software
> > in the release.  Installing all the software in the release saves a
> > lot of time, and hard drive space is cheeper than time.
> >
> > I have used Debian 1.3.1 in the past but I think that having packages
> > that confict is a bad thing.  I think that making all the packages
> > in Debian compatable would be a big plus.  In Debian 1.3.1 this is
> > not the cast. For example you cannot install emacs and xemacs in Debian
> > 1.3.1 . I'm guessing some of the filenames in these two packages are the
> > same. To get rid of this confict you can just install them in different
> > directories or something like that.
>
> This issue was discussed just recently on this list.  Some packages
> naturally conflict.  The emacs/xemacs conflict was resolved for 2.0, but
> there are other cases where a conflict is simply a fact of life that can't
> easily be avoided.  The example that came up most frequently involved
> smail, sendmail, exim, etc.  It would make no sense to be able to install
> each of these on a single system.  Having them all installed at once would
> lead to chaos, because they'd all be trying to do each others job (that
> is, deliver mail for the system).  Some package conflicts are inherent to
> the nature of the package, not to the way Debian puts together its
> distribution.

That being said, perhaps there should be a predefined installation selection  
(among the listed configurations you get when you run dselect on a new  
installation) where something as close as possible to "everything" is  
installed.  So if there are multiple, conflicting versions of a library or  
tool, the newest stable version would be installed;  Where there are  
conflicts between functionally overlapping packages (like smail/sendmail/exim  
as you mentioned above), perhaps it should install none of them, and output  
into a log file some human-readable summary of which conflicting packages the  
user may want to choose from, so they can easily see what they might want to  
go back and install later.  Just some ideas...

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Re: conflicts in Debian Distributions

1998-10-26 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Lance Arsenault wrote:

> Background:  Debian 1.3.1 would not let you install all the software
> in the release.  Installing all the software in the release saves a
> lot of time, and hard drive space is cheeper than time.  
> 
> I have used Debian 1.3.1 in the past but I think that having packages
> that confict is a bad thing.  I think that making all the packages
> in Debian compatable would be a big plus.  In Debian 1.3.1 this is
> not the cast.  For example you cannot install emacs and xemacs in Debian 
> 1.3.1 .
> I'm guessing some of the filenames in these two packages are the same.
> To get rid of this confict you can just install them in different directories 
> or
> something like that.  

This issue was discussed just recently on this list.  Some packages
naturally conflict.  The emacs/xemacs conflict was resolved for 2.0, but
there are other cases where a conflict is simply a fact of life that can't
easily be avoided.  The example that came up most frequently involved
smail, sendmail, exim, etc.  It would make no sense to be able to install
each of these on a single system.  Having them all installed at once would
lead to chaos, because they'd all be trying to do each others job (that
is, deliver mail for the system).  Some package conflicts are inherent to
the nature of the package, not to the way Debian puts together its
distribution.

Noah

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Configuring a mail client

1998-10-26 Thread Clovis Sena/Servicos Recife
Hi everybody,

I´m having a problem in configuring a mail client, that we can resume
this way: in a client machine i have to configure the mail client to
access the mail server, so what are the files to check it out?? 

And what to do if i have to configure several mail accounts in this same
client ( if the user has [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) with diferents users/servers ?

Now the easy: How can i manage ( include/exclude )the users accounts in
smail??? I tryied to configure it, but something dont work ok, cause it
finished configuring without i have configured any user email account ??
any ideas???  must i edit some file and insert this informations by
myself?



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Re: Installation

1998-10-26 Thread Rodrigo Moya
>Hmm... it might seem silly, but try putting a CDROM in the drive - my
>system took _ages_ until I did this - looking at the logs showed it was
>trying in vain to find a FS on the  CD drive...
>
>Matthew
>
I am booting linux from cd-rom


conflicts in Debian Distributions

1998-10-26 Thread Lance Arsenault

I just would like to know if Debian 2.0 has conflicting software
in it like Debian 1.3.1 .  

Background:  Debian 1.3.1 would not let you install all the software
in the release.  Installing all the software in the release saves a
lot of time, and hard drive space is cheeper than time.  

I have used Debian 1.3.1 in the past but I think that having packages
that confict is a bad thing.  I think that making all the packages
in Debian compatable would be a big plus.  In Debian 1.3.1 this is
not the cast.  For example you cannot install emacs and xemacs in Debian 1.3.1 .
I'm guessing some of the filenames in these two packages are the same.
To get rid of this confict you can just install them in different directories or
something like that.  

It's a pain to have to pick through 1000 + packages to install.  I prefer to 
just
install all of them without picking through them.  Hard disk space is now cheep,
and time is not.

Please reply

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Re: tar and the braindead man

1998-10-26 Thread Anthony Landreneau
Ok Kenneth,
   I must be missing something here, other than my mind of course.  This is
the requirment:
I have a tape with a tar file on it, lets call it thefile.tar .  I need to
make two copies of that file, back on two other tapes.  So I will have
three tapes with three identical copies of this tar file.
   I got thefile.tar off of the original tape using 

tar -xv ./thefile.tar -C /usr/thedirectorystore

   The tar file is now on the hard drive.  Now I want to put it back onto
tape, gee, simple minded me thought

tar -cv ./thefile.tar -C /usr/thedirectorystore

and bingo, but that doesn't seems to be happening.  Any ideas on how I can
complete this task?

Thanks again,

Anthony

>Close, but no cigar. 
>
>syntax is:
>
>tar -cvf /dev/tapedevice /usr/thedirectory.
>
>To make a full backup I did:
>
>tar -cvf /dev/st0 / --exclude /dev --exclude /proc
>
>(my tape drive is a scsi rdat on /dev/st0)  This command backed up
>everything, except the dev and proc directories.  (I had some BAD
>things happen trying to access the devices as files, and you don't
>need to backup the /proc directory as it does NOT exist on the disk.) 
>Don't leave your cd rom mounted for this or it will get backed up
>also, why waste 650MB of tape for something that can't be trashed?!
>
>
>-
>Greetings,
>Got what I thought was a simple problem. I have a 2GB DAT tape
>drive, a
>directory that I want to backup to that tape drive.  Seems simple
>enough,
>but I can't seem to get it to work. I thought the command was:
>tar -cvf thetarfile.tar /usr/thedirectory
>
>But it isn't working.  Now I have created a tar file on the hard drive,
>and
>thought it would be just as easy to move the file to tape, but I can't
>figure that out either.  Tried mounting the tape drive and the machine
>mocks me openly.  Any and all help would be apprciated!
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: tar and the braindead man

1998-10-26 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
On Mon, Oct 26, 1998 at 05:34:44AM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> Close, but no cigar. 
> 
> syntax is:
> 
> tar -cvf /dev/tapedevice /usr/thedirectory.
> 
> To make a full backup I did:
> 
> tar -cvf /dev/st0 / --exclude /dev --exclude /proc
> 
> (my tape drive is a scsi rdat on /dev/st0)  This command backed up
> everything, except the dev and proc directories.  (I had some BAD
> things happen trying to access the devices as files, and you don't
> need to backup the /proc directory as it does NOT exist on the disk.) 
> Don't leave your cd rom mounted for this or it will get backed up
> also, why waste 650MB of tape for something that can't be trashed?!

here is how I do my full backups and it works GREAT

tar clvf /dev/st0 /

This uses -l which tells it to ONLY get things on the local device
NB: if /home or anything is on a differnt partition then it needs
to be explicitly added. 

This works well for me, excludes /proc and /cdrom etc
Just thought I would pass it along ;)

-Steve

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Re: Installation

1998-10-26 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
> 
> Hmm... it might seem silly, but try putting a CDROM in the drive - my
> system took _ages_ until I did this - looking at the logs showed it was
> trying in vain to find a FS on the  CD drive...
> 

Go to /etc, edit the file fstab, and add the option `noauto' to the line
that describes your cdrom, somewhat like

/dev/hdd/cdromiso9660defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0

This will avoid attempts to mount the CD at boot time.  This option is
also useful for floppy devices or any other removable media.

HTH,
Eric

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tar and the braindead man

1998-10-26 Thread Kenneth Scharf
Close, but no cigar. 

syntax is:

tar -cvf /dev/tapedevice /usr/thedirectory.

To make a full backup I did:

tar -cvf /dev/st0 / --exclude /dev --exclude /proc

(my tape drive is a scsi rdat on /dev/st0)  This command backed up
everything, except the dev and proc directories.  (I had some BAD
things happen trying to access the devices as files, and you don't
need to backup the /proc directory as it does NOT exist on the disk.) 
Don't leave your cd rom mounted for this or it will get backed up
also, why waste 650MB of tape for something that can't be trashed?!


-
Greetings,
Got what I thought was a simple problem. I have a 2GB DAT tape
drive, a
directory that I want to backup to that tape drive.  Seems simple
enough,
but I can't seem to get it to work. I thought the command was:
tar -cvf thetarfile.tar /usr/thedirectory

But it isn't working.  Now I have created a tar file on the hard drive,
and
thought it would be just as easy to move the file to tape, but I can't
figure that out either.  Tried mounting the tape drive and the machine
mocks me openly.  Any and all help would be apprciated!






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Re: Installation

1998-10-26 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Rodrigo Moya wrote:

> >I am new to debian linux (not new to linux in general), and still trying to
> >install debian 2.0.
> >
> >All kernels I tried to boot on my machine, hang after they found my CD-ROM
> >drive (FreeBSD boots clearly)
> >
> >My setup is:
> >ASUS SP98AGP-X
> >K6-233
> >Adaptec 2940UW (rev 1.32)
> >2 x SCSI hardisks
> >IDE-CDROM
> >128MB
> >Diamon Fire GL1000PRO (AGP)
> 
> 
> I have the same problem. I've tried to install RedHat 4.2/5.0, Debian
> 1.3/2.0, Suse 5.1/5.2 and it never works. I've also tried with different
> disks (all IDE): Master/Slave/Slave, Master/Slave, Master... and it always
> stops in the same place:
> hda:.
> hdb.. (which is the cdrom)
> hdd.
> 
> My setup is
> Pentium MMX 200
> 2xIDE harddisks (4.3 GB and 2.5)
> 1 IDE cdrom drive
> 64 MB
> 
> I've asked this question in hundreds of places (including Debian lists) and
> only had an answer about specifying hard disk parameters to LILO. I tried
> it, but still stops in the same place. Because of this error, I can use
> Linux only on a 386 (well with 20 MB RAM, 2.5 GB hard disk, but still a 386,
> so I cannot flavour completely the power of Linux).
> 
> Marcus, if you've got an answer from a different place, please tell me,
> since sometimes I feel desperated for not being able to use Linux on this
> machine, which would be a great thing.

Hmm... it might seem silly, but try putting a CDROM in the drive - my
system took _ages_ until I did this - looking at the logs showed it was
trying in vain to find a FS on the  CD drive...

Matthew

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dselect Woes

1998-10-26 Thread Kenneth Scharf
Dselect is indeed not a begineer's best friend. (Been there, done
that!) There are several ways to tackle using it (or not) in
installing debian.  What worked for me was to enter allow the install
script to drop me into dselect after the reboot and let it install the
basic packages.  The first phase is the access method.  Just say CD,
give the access path to your cdrom (/dev/hdc if you cd rom is the
master on the second ide interface), take the default directory for
main, and say 'none' for each of the other sections.  Then hit 
for the 'Update' phase,  again to enter the 'Select' phase. 
 to exit the help screen, and  to accept the default
packages.  Now just hit  for the 'configure', 'remove' and  'exit'
phases.  Deselect has just installed the usual bunch of packages.

To add packages, re-run deselect as before but DON'T hit cr on the
'update' phase.  Arrow down to the 'select' phase because you have
already done the update before.  Arrow down to look at each package. 
The descriptions are on the bottom of the screen.  Use the '+' key (on
your keypad) to select a package to install.  If the package depends
on others a second screen pops up with the selections that you need. 
Recommended or suggested packages are also shown but selection is not
forced.  Use the '+' key to accept them if you want.  Then hit  to
get back to the main screen to select more packages.  Hit  in the
main screen to start installing.  Proceed as in the first case.  Oh
yeahRTFM!!  Don't try to install X until the usual packages are
installed first.  Trying to get the whole system installed and
configured in one sitting is too much for the beginner.  One thing at
a time.  In fact, don't even try getting X up until you have your PPP
connection, printer, networking, user accounts etc up.  (Save the hard
part for last!)

Good luck and have fun!
-
Hello,

I am trying to install the Debian Release 2.0 (CheapBytes) and am
having trouble with the dselect utility. If I am reading the help file
correctly one can highlight "all packages", press return, and then
proceed to installation.
When I do that there are an enormous number of packages that are not
installed. (I would think "all packages" would mean exactly that but it
apparently does not.) I have also tried selecting the packages of
interest only to result
in an installation that ls X* would show X86Config under /etc but ls -l
would not. More could also not find the X86Config file. Rather than
puzzle out why this was happening on a new install I am simply
reinstalling the entire
system. Comments or suggestions for dealing with dselect?






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Re: ISDN Adapter or Eth Router or Serial

1998-10-26 Thread Gregory Green
I have had great luck with the Netgear RT328.  It is cheap ($280) and it is a 
fully
functional router.  This one has one ethernet interface and the next model up 
has a
four port hub built in.  No messing around with kernel tweaking, or installing 
an
internal card, you just configure it over your LAN via telnet or serial port.  
It has
all the dial on demand and multilink ppp options, and two analog ports like the 
other
more expensive ones.
I shopped around a bit before I decided to go with this one and I am very happy 
with
it.

Steven Udell wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I need advice on what ISDN adapter to get.
>
> I have looked at the:
> 3comImpact IQ (serial) "modem" external device..
> But am concerned about the limit of 115K speed on the serial port.
> And people say its just a toy..not a solid ISDN choice..(250.00 cost too)
>
> I have also looked at the:
> Cisco 766 or 776 ISDN router external. (quite expensive)
> One has just one eth port and the other has an intergrated 4 port 10baseT hub.
> On this one how well it would work with Linux. Connected to my Eth card
> in my Linux box, would it use diald ? .. Would I compile the linux kernel
> with ISDN support for this?
>
> Or should I go with a lower cost(most likely) ISDN adapter card..
> I don't know which way I should go.. I will need it networked  &
> I need a analog phone port for a fax & voice phone. I wouldn't mind
> useing the Linux kernels ISDN function either.. ;) But what should
> I look at..in terms of Adapter cards..suggestions?
>
> Steve Udell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 10 more days till the ISDN wireing is in 
>
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RE: Still having Printer Problems

1998-10-26 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
OK, this is how my printcap looks.  I still get the insidious message
'transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed'
What could be causing this? OR, what can I change in my printcap that
mught get my printer working.
It is an HP660C but I would think I could still get garbage out of it by
typing 'lp test'?


Is there anything special I need to do to set up magicfilter other than
put it in my printcap?




 lp:\

:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:
:if=/usr/sbin/magicfilter:\



Thanks in advance for any help

Lance


Re: dos2unix?

1998-10-26 Thread Remo Badii
Look for fromtodos or from2dos or sysutils.
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kernel compile error

1998-10-26 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
Hi all,

A colleague of mine managed to get the following error while compiling
the kernel on his machine at home (I have no access to it from here).
It is a fresh hamm system.  I don't understand how this error comes
about.  The kernel was being compiled with make-kpkg.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Eric

error output:
#
ld -qmagic -Ttext 0xfffe0 -o bvmlinux head.o misc.o piggy.o
ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 000fffe0
misc.o: In function `fill_inbuf':
misc.o(.text+0x1ebc): undefined reference to `input_data'
misc.o(.text+0x1ec1): undefined reference to `input_len'
misc.o(.text+0x1ed7): undefined reference to `input_data'
make[3]: *** [bvmlinux] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot/compressed'
make[2]: *** [compressed/bvmlinux] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot'
make[1]: *** [bzImage] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34'
make: *** [build] Error 2


rescue-disk kernel

1998-10-26 Thread Greg Norris
I was wondering if anyone can point me to some information on what
drivers are compiled-in (i.e. not modules) to the kernel on hamm's
rescue-disk image?  I'm trying to generate an alternate rescue-disk
containing the latest version of the aic7xxx SCSI driver, and I'd prefer
to otherwise mimic the "normal" kernel as closely as possible.  I was
able to find out what was compiled as modules by looking at the
drivers-disk, but haven't been able to determine the full list of
compiled-in options.

The intent is to get this alternate disk-image added to the aic7xxx site
at ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/aic/, alongside the Red Hat and S.u.S.E.
bootdisk images.

Thanx!


RE: lilo problem

1998-10-26 Thread Richardson,Anthony

The boot should be /dev/sda.  The LI is a symptom of a geometry
mismatch that adding "linear" to lilo.conf usually fixes.

The message about the disk not being the first disk is just a
warning as some BIOSes don't provide support for booting from other
than the first disk.

Tony

On Friday, October 23, 1998 8:06 PM, steven [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
wrote:
> Howdy Folks!
>
> I'm having a small problem configuring lilo and I'm hoping someone
> can
> help.
>
> I have a Pentium 133 running slink with kernel 2.0.35.
> I have a SCSI bootdisk and I want to make my IDE drive my root drive.
>
> ie.. boot=/dev/sda3
>  root=/dev/hda2
>
> I wish to boot the SCSI drive because it contains a windoze partition
> I
> need to boot (sometimes).  I've recently aquired a 6 gig IDE drive
> and
> I've copied the linux over to it.  I'd like to continue booting the
> SCSI
> drive, but have something pointing to my IDE drive for Linux.  At
> this
> point I can boot either partition using loadlin.  If I boot the SCSI
> drive
> as root, I can use lilo to fix the MBR to boot linux off that drive.
>
> This is not desirable because the partition is too small. However, if
> I
> boot the IDE drive as root and attempt to use lilo I get the error
> message
> listed below.
>
> here is my lilo.conf file:
> boot=/dev/sda3
> root=/dev/hda2
> install=/boot/boot.b
> append="mem=80M"
> map=/boot/map
> vga=normal
> delay=20
> image=/bzImage.2.0.35
> lable=Linux
> read-only
> image=/vmlinuz
> lable=OldLinux
> read-only
>
> when I run lilo, I get the following error:
>
> Warning: /dev/sda3 is not on the first disk
> scsi0: Adopting Geometry 128/32 from the Partition Table
> Added Linux *
> Added OldLinux
>
> Then if I'm silly enough to attempt the boot the system it freezes
> after
> LI.
>
> Does anyone have suggestions as to what I can do to fix this problem?
> As I
> said, right now I'm booting off the debian CD using loadlin and an
> older
> kernel. I would like to automate the process and use my kernel.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Steven
>
> ps.  I'm not sure of what other information you may need. So if You
> need
> something else to solve this problem, let me know.
>
>
>
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Re: Help with E-Mail

1998-10-26 Thread Martin Waller
If your just trying to download email from your ISP,  couldn't you just 
install netscape and use the POP mail on that?  That's what I do, and 
it's virtually idiot proof (has to be for me...).

Martin


>Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: "James Robert Lunsford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Subject: Help with E-Mail
>Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 05:12:46 -0500
>
>I need help setting up mail on my debian system.  I've been running
>it for about a month now.  I've got the x-windows system up and running
>but this mail thing has me stumped.
>
>I've learned DOS inside and out, same for OS/2, and ran an 8 line BBS
>for 2 years, and didn't have this much trouble.  I think that I'm just
>getting
>confused with all of the options that are out there.
>
>I've got smail, fetchmail, and nmh.  When I installed the smail package
>dselect
>helped me through a rudimentary configuration and I told it all of the 
info
>that
>I knew.  At the end it sent me a test message, but it said that the 
system
>wasn't
>ready.
>
>I'm lost here.  I've read the docs that came with smail and fetchmail 
but am
>totally confused.
>
>If someone could give me some pointers, steps to follow, or signs to 
look
>for, I'd be really
>grateful.  A step by step setup guide would be great.  It doesn't have 
to be
>incredibly detailed
>but the more the better.
>
>Thanks!
>
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Fw: creating preselected configurations for DSELECT

1998-10-26 Thread Juergen Fornoff
> I am interested in creating predefined selections of packages, similar
> to those that appear when you first install Debian (the ones with names
> like "scientific workstation", "Games machine", "Network server",
> "Developer", "Standard", etc.

I was interested in that too, so I did:

* install a fresh debian up to the point packake-select (the one before
  dselect) runs.
* switch with Alt-F2 to another console and login as root.
* make a backup-copy of all files & directories (pkgsel, profiles & tasks)
  to elsewhere.

Now you can play around with those files...

(Hope it helps)


Best regards

Juergen Fornoff


Re: fs not umounted at CTL-ALT-DEL

1998-10-26 Thread Nathan O. Siemers

Have you possibly added any swap files recently?  A while ago I
tracked a similar problem to an open swap file that shutdown was not
releasing before it tried to unmount.

nathan



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Re: installing debian

1998-10-26 Thread Anton J . Gamel
Hi all !

>On Sun, Oct 25, 1998 at 12:18:25PM +1100, Corbishley Family wrote:
>> [Debian via] floppy to an old 386 with 4MB ram and 120MB hard disk.
>> ... partitioned hard disk into Linux, Linux swap, Minux/Linux).
>> ... "Initialize and Activate a Swap Partition"...
>
> ... a bug in the low memory installation. A workaround is described
>at ... http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/lowmem.html

Laptop Austin, 386SXL-25, Phenix 1.05 Bios, 640k+3Mb RAM, 540Mb WD
The lowmem special menue (1.partition,2.init.swap,3.init root,4.reboot)
A) 3. does NOT copy the root partition to /dev/hda5 (minix) "it hangs"
B) I am not shure wether 2. initializes the swap on /dev/hda3 because
   I don't get a message about what was done when initialization finishes.
C) I don't get an alt-f2-console at this point.
(B+C as it was usual in bo lowmem)

I can do a floppy boot via the rescue-disk (boot: rescue root=/dev/fd0)
but I end up with "Unable to open an initial console"

Any Ideas?

Greetings

Anton

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Re: lilo (linux -> dos) problem

1998-10-26 Thread Tom Pfeifer
> Yet I know I can boot dos off of that disk.  I've been
> doing so for years.  Until now I've been switching between
> OS's by going into the bios and selecting a boot sequence
> that boots off of the disk with the OS I want (my bios
> supports a lot of boot sequence options).  

DOS/Win9X will not (normally) boot from the second drive. It needs to
boot from the active primary on the master drive (drive C in DOS terms).
When you switch drives in the BIOS, the DOS drive becomes drive C -
that's why that works.

I'm not sure if Lilo can do what you want. If it is, I'm not familiar
with how.

Otherwise, if you're not willing to switch the drives around, one option
I can suggest is to try Bootit Direct as the boot manager. It's
shareware ($15, one month free trial), and is capable of booting
DOS/Win9x from the 2nd drive. It installs in the MBR, is very simple to
set up, and works well with Linux and any other OS I've tried.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/BOOTITD.HTM


Tom


Windows only printers?

1998-10-26 Thread James Robert Lunsford




I 
can't get my Panasonic KX-P6100 laser printer to work with linux.  Anybody 
else have one of these?
 
    
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Help with E-Mail

1998-10-26 Thread James Robert Lunsford
I need help setting up mail on my debian system.  I've been running
it for about a month now.  I've got the x-windows system up and running
but this mail thing has me stumped.

I've learned DOS inside and out, same for OS/2, and ran an 8 line BBS
for 2 years, and didn't have this much trouble.  I think that I'm just
getting
confused with all of the options that are out there.

I've got smail, fetchmail, and nmh.  When I installed the smail package
dselect
helped me through a rudimentary configuration and I told it all of the info
that
I knew.  At the end it sent me a test message, but it said that the system
wasn't
ready.

I'm lost here.  I've read the docs that came with smail and fetchmail but am
totally confused.

If someone could give me some pointers, steps to follow, or signs to look
for, I'd be really
grateful.  A step by step setup guide would be great.  It doesn't have to be
incredibly detailed
but the more the better.

Thanks!


Re: Installation

1998-10-26 Thread Rodrigo Moya
>I am new to debian linux (not new to linux in general), and still trying to
>install debian 2.0.
>
>All kernels I tried to boot on my machine, hang after they found my CD-ROM
>drive (FreeBSD boots clearly)
>
>My setup is:
>ASUS SP98AGP-X
>K6-233
>Adaptec 2940UW (rev 1.32)
>2 x SCSI hardisks
>IDE-CDROM
>128MB
>Diamon Fire GL1000PRO (AGP)


I have the same problem. I've tried to install RedHat 4.2/5.0, Debian
1.3/2.0, Suse 5.1/5.2 and it never works. I've also tried with different
disks (all IDE): Master/Slave/Slave, Master/Slave, Master... and it always
stops in the same place:
hda:.
hdb.. (which is the cdrom)
hdd.

My setup is
Pentium MMX 200
2xIDE harddisks (4.3 GB and 2.5)
1 IDE cdrom drive
64 MB

I've asked this question in hundreds of places (including Debian lists) and
only had an answer about specifying hard disk parameters to LILO. I tried
it, but still stops in the same place. Because of this error, I can use
Linux only on a 386 (well with 20 MB RAM, 2.5 GB hard disk, but still a 386,
so I cannot flavour completely the power of Linux).

Marcus, if you've got an answer from a different place, please tell me,
since sometimes I feel desperated for not being able to use Linux on this
machine, which would be a great thing.

Rodrigo


libs missing

1998-10-26 Thread Jens Lisner

Hi all!

I want to install dumb (with alien, its rpm), which need the libs

libppm.so.1
libpgm.so.1
libpbm.so.1

the only lib i can find in the netstat package (the dumb homepage suggest
this) is libnetppm. where can i find the missing libs??

many thanx,
Jens



Re: ISDN Adapter or Eth Router or Serial

1998-10-26 Thread Dimitri P.
Ok...  ok...
Here is my $0.02 ...( two cents for non american speaking users, meaning "a
piece of my mind" -in liberal paraphrase.)

ISDN router is my vote. This way it's not "tied" to any specific
machine.Linux, unix, win 95 and NT as long as they have ethernet they'll
use it. 

Can I recommend one? Of course...routers are like opinions...everyone
should have one ! :)

For the past week I've been using the netgear RT 328. 
24 hours 7 days a week support ( in case you ever need it-probably you
won't ) 
I like the manuals, the router has a winprogram for setting it up AND you
can telnet into it and use its own character based menu program, unless you
are a die hard command line fan, you could telnet and switch to command
line interface... so... http://netgear.baynetworks.com look for the RT 328
( single ethernet port )-about $280 , or RH 348 ( four ethernet
ports)-about $340 
Depending on where you shop. 

I don't often quote models ...unless I have used them and like them.
..and no I don't works for them either... :)

Good luck to 'ya.


PS Since someone asked on another postmetered ISDN is where you pay per
minute of usage , centrex ISDN I believe they just charge you a large fee
up front per month. 
Not sure if the term Centrex is used in Europe at all, but in general terms
in basicaly using the telephone company's phone system instead of your own.
The line you are calling although it  has a "regular number" is in a way a
regular extension as if you were using an internal phone system. Centrex
allows you to forward calls and use features thet are otherwise available
only if you have your own phone system installed. 

Dimitri P.

At 08:26 PM 10/25/1998 +, Steven Udell wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I need advice on what ISDN adapter to get.
>
>I have looked at the:
>3comImpact IQ (serial) "modem" external device..
>But am concerned about the limit of 115K speed on the serial port.
>And people say its just a toy..not a solid ISDN choice..(250.00 cost too)
>
>I have also looked at the:
>Cisco 766 or 776 ISDN router external. (quite expensive)
>One has just one eth port and the other has an intergrated 4 port 10baseT
hub.
>On this one how well it would work with Linux. Connected to my Eth card
>in my Linux box, would it use diald ? .. Would I compile the linux kernel
>with ISDN support for this? 
>
>Or should I go with a lower cost(most likely) ISDN adapter card..
>I don't know which way I should go.. I will need it networked  &
>I need a analog phone port for a fax & voice phone. I wouldn't mind
>useing the Linux kernels ISDN function either.. ;) But what should
>I look at..in terms of Adapter cards..suggestions?
>
>Steve Udell
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>10 more days till the ISDN wireing is in 
>
>
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Re: GPL-like office suite package?

1998-10-26 Thread Frank Barknecht
Alexander Gieg hat gesagt: // Alexander Gieg wrote:

> Today many users like to use StarOffice and/or other graphical WYSIWYG 
> office suites. Is there any project to make a GPL package with all the 
> "userlikeness" of these packages, with the same resources (and less 
> bugs ;-)) that MS-Office has?
> 
> Things like hundreds of functions, not very strict rules to use it 
> (things like the "two--not-allowed" from Lyx), hyper-easy 
> (really dumb) macro language with on-the-fly sintax check and graphical 
> window design, and those cool OLE2 ways to merge a program into 
> another?

SIAG does some of these things. But I am sorry, the packages are only 0.5 MB 
big so it really does not use as many resources as Star-/MS-Office ;) 
It has drag'n'drop support using libdnd which is also used in the offix
package, it can do makros in languages like guile and tcl. But those are
not really dumb languages, I am sorry again ;) and a graphical designer is
missing too.

But you get OLE2, kind of. The siag programs can embed other apps into 
documents, e.g you can put xclock in a document and you will always
have the now-time as graphics.

In short: these are really nice and small office programs for a lot of dirty 
work. As the author puts it: "Siag - It sucks less". He is right; don't we
all just HATE office suites? I do for sure.
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Re: Can you do hard drive caching? How?

1998-10-26 Thread Helge Hafting
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/24/98 
   at 11:55 AM, Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Joey Hess wrote:

>> Mark Phillips wrote:
>> > I run latex a lot and every time I run it, it has to load in library files
>> > from disk, which takes time.  I could try to buy a fast but expensive SCSI
>> > drive, but I thought probably a cheaper way would be to buy more memory
>> > and somehow use it to cache my existing hard drives -- ie stuff which is
>> > commonly read from the disk would be stored in memory.
>> > 
>> > Is there software in linux which will do this?
>> 
>> Yes. Install more memory and linux will do this automatically.

>How does it know how much memory is to be used for caching?  Can you set
>this?  (I presume the caching software is part of the kernel.)

*All* memory not used for anything else is used for caching.
I.e. all free memory on the system.  The more you have, the more cache you
have.  If all memory is used up (and
the system start swapping) then you have little (but not zero)  cache
left.  How much to reserve is tunable via the
/proc interface (or by changing the source.)
Look at man-pages for "free" and "vmstat" and such. 

Helge Hafting 


Re: RTF reader

1998-10-26 Thread Frank Barknecht
M.C. Vernon hat gesagt: // M.C. Vernon wrote:

> > > Can anyone recommend a good package for viewing .rtfs? My soundcard CD has
> > > it's doc's in this format, and I need to read them in the hopes that it
> > > will contain the IRQ and DMA values for my card...

Try "Pathetic Writer" from the Siag office suite. The debian package in slink
is called "xpw" and lives in section "text". 

Description:
--
Priority: optional
Section: text
Installed-Size: 376
Maintainer: Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: siag
Replaces: pw
Provides: pw
Depends: siagoffice-common (= 3.0.5-1), siagoffice-plugins (= 3.0.5-1), libc6, 
libguile2, libreadlineg2 (>= 2.1-4), ncurses3.4, tcl8.0, xlib6g (>= 3.3-5), 
xpm4g (>= 3.4j-0)
Recommends: www-browser, postscript-viewer
Suggests: xsiag, egon, offix-files
Conflicts: pw
Description: the Pathetic Writer word-processor
 The word-processor part of the Siag Office suite, which also contains
 SIAG and EGON.  Siag Office uses the Offix DND Drag-and-Drop protocol.
 .
 A WWW browser is needed to read online doc.  A postscript viewer is used for
 document preview.
 .
 It can read and write RTF and HTML files for inter-operation with other
 well-known word-processors.
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Re: ISDN Adapter or Eth Router or Serial

1998-10-26 Thread Don MacDonald
If you choose the ISDN router take a look at the Symplex RO-1:
www.symplex.com

Works well for me on Debian, Redhat & SuSE boxes.  All are
networked through an ethernet switch and connected to the
outside world via the Symplex RO-1 (even have a couple of
WindowsNT boxes on the network using the RO-1 as well).

You don't need any special ISDN settings in the kernel -- just
regular plain old ethernet.  Setup your default gateway to
be the Symplex.  It has its own IP address on one side and
an ISP supplied IP address (can be dynamic) on the otherside
and routes packets to/from those addresses.  Its really pretty
simple.

_don_

At 08:26 PM 10/25/98 +, Steven Udell wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I need advice on what ISDN adapter to get.
>
>I have looked at the:
>3comImpact IQ (serial) "modem" external device..
>But am concerned about the limit of 115K speed on the serial port.
>And people say its just a toy..not a solid ISDN choice..(250.00 cost too)
>
>I have also looked at the:
>Cisco 766 or 776 ISDN router external. (quite expensive)
>One has just one eth port and the other has an intergrated 4 port 10baseT
hub.
>On this one how well it would work with Linux. Connected to my Eth card
>in my Linux box, would it use diald ? .. Would I compile the linux kernel
>with ISDN support for this? 
>
>Or should I go with a lower cost(most likely) ISDN adapter card..
>I don't know which way I should go.. I will need it networked  &
>I need a analog phone port for a fax & voice phone. I wouldn't mind
>useing the Linux kernels ISDN function either.. ;) But what should
>I look at..in terms of Adapter cards..suggestions?
>
>Steve Udell
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>10 more days till the ISDN wireing is in 
>
>
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Re: Removing ^M in files--in bulk?

1998-10-26 Thread Craig M. Kimmer

There is also a program that is out there by the name of "flip".  It will
add or remove the ^M depending on what you need.  It exists for linux and
MSDOS.  If you can not find it on the net, let me know at the following
addresses and I will see about getting it to you.

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Re: ISDN Adapter or Eth Router or Serial

1998-10-26 Thread Ralf G. R. Bergs
On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:11:44 -0800 (PST), George Bonser wrote:

>We have had good luck at work with Ascend ISDN equipment. If you are on
>metered ISDN (as opposed to Centrex ISDN) make sure you program that thing

Could you please explain to a German user what the difference between metered 
ISDN and Centrex ISDN is?

>to not pass netbios traffic. Otherwise the darned ISDN will dial up every
>time someone with a Windows box on your network clicks "Network
>Neighborhood".

It will only do this if you don't have the correct firewalling/forwarding 
entries. :-)

What I'm trying to say is that with some effort you can have dial-on-demand 
WITHOUT the ISDN router dialing out each time you browse the network from a 
Windoze box. I know since I was using ISDN to connect to the internet because I 
got my ADSL line (BTW, George, I got 8M downlink and 768K uplink :-)

Ralf


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Re: KDE Questions

1998-10-26 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-"Cristov Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|
| I have two questions concerning KDE that I have as yet been unable to find
| an answer in the documentation.
| 
| 1 - Is it possible to switch to another window manager while in KDE?  Can
| KDE be started from other window mangers?

Yes and yes. Kill kwm (find its pid and do 'kill -9 ') and start
the new one. Check out the startkde script. Do everything there except
the last line, and you will have kde with the ability to run another wm.

| 2 - When I start the editor application, it opens 3 times.  The first 2
| times it pops up an error message for a directory I have not loaded a file
| from previously but from a directory I used in bash prior to running KDE the
| first time!?  Does anyone know how to fix this?

Probably. I don't ;-)

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Re: dos2unix?

1998-10-26 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-Nuno Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|
| On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Thomas Apel wrote:
| 
| > I always thought there was a package called "dos2unix" to convert dos
| > text files to unix text files. But I can't find it anywhere. Is there
| > such a package somewhere out there? And if yes, what's its name?
| 
|  Try do a script it something like:
| 
| cat  | sed 's/^M//'

Or even better IMNSHO: tr -d '\r'

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Re: GPL-like office suite package?

1998-10-26 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-"Alexander Gieg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|
| Hello!
| 
| Today many users like to use StarOffice and/or other graphical WYSIWYG 
| office suites. Is there any project to make a GPL package with all the 
| "userlikeness" of these packages, with the same resources (and less 
| bugs ;-)) that MS-Office has?

KDE has a KOffice (koffice.kde.org) project, and GNOME have a spreadsheet
(quite unfinished) and are discussing a word processor.

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Re: Problem with XF86_S3V server

1998-10-26 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> from:Rajan Senthil
> 
> Video Card: S3Virge/Dx/375/385
> Monior: Compaq presario 1525
> Computer: Compaq 200Mhz MMX
> 
> X server starts only with XF86_S3V server (XF86_SVGA does't work!).
> The display is fine in 1024x768 resolution but it supports only 8 
> pixel depth.
> 
> I would like to have atleast 16 pixel depth. Any solution/suggetion 
> to have X server running in 16 pixel depth?

how much video memory does the card have?

Matthew

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PS: Printcap doesn't run filter script

1998-10-26 Thread Kent West

On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Kent West wrote:

> I've got an /etc/printcap (permissions = -rw-r--r--  root root) that looks
> like:
> 
>  beeper:\
> :if=/home/westk/beeper-filter:\
>   :lp=/dev/null:\
>   :sd=/var/spool/lpd/beeper:
> 
> (permissions on /var/spool/lpd/beeper = -drwxrwxr-x  lp lp)
> 
> and a /home/westk/beeper-filter (permissions = -rwxr-xr-x  root root) that
> looks like:
> 
>  #!/usr/bin/perl
>  $recipient = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]";
>  $subject = "Beeper Message";
>  $mailprog = "mail";
> 
>  open (MAIL, "|$mailprog -s \'$subject\' $recipient");
>  
>  print MAIL " Header Line\n\n";
>  
>  while () {
>  print MAIL $_;
>  }
>  
>  print MAIL "\n Footer Line\n";
>  close MAIL;
>  
>  
> 
> As root in any non-empty directory (such as /etc), I'm typing
>   ls -l|lpr -Pbeeper
> Then four files appear in the spool directory and stay until I rm them, 
> and the mail message is apparently never generated (at least it never 
> shows up in my mailbox).
> 
> I've also tried putting a
>   print "Text";
> just after the 
>   #!/usr/bin/perl
> line, but I never see the test message printed. However, I just realized,
> could the test message be printing to /dev/null? If so, how do I redirect 
> the test message to my screen so that I can verify that the beeper-filter 
> is being run when I print something?
> 
> (Thanks to Jim Foltz for getting me this far, esp the basic script.)
> 

PS: I just learned that if I type at the /home/west/ command prompt:
echo test | ./beeper-filter
the email message shows up. So the script works; it's just not being 
called when I print something. Any clues?


Re: KDE Questions

1998-10-26 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Cristov Russell wrote:

> I have two questions concerning KDE that I have as yet been unable to find
> an answer in the documentation.
> 
> 1 - Is it possible to switch to another window manager while in KDE?  Can
> KDE be started from other window mangers?

Don't know sorry. 
 
> 2 - When I start the editor application, it opens 3 times.  The first 2
> times it pops up an error message for a directory I have not loaded a file
> from previously but from a directory I used in bash prior to running KDE the
> first time!?  Does anyone know how to fix this?

The new (now not available) KDE .deb's from slink.

While on this topic, And while I was meaning to write to the list about
this:

  I downloaded KDE from ftp.kde.org for a friends debian box (hamm), and I
noticed some of the version release dates were newer than the ones on my
slink system. Silly me, I did a `dpkg -i kde*.deb` - not realising that
the (now gone.. (dammit)) slink versions started with "2:" I was expecting
dpkg to skip the same version packages. It seems that now, I have a broken
kde setup. The libraries are all the equivalent versions from the hamm
.deb's. Has anyone out there got the slink kde packages, or has the
ex-maintainer got his creations still? Or is there anyway to fix this? I
DO NOT want to go back to the hamm versions, I decided to move to slink
because slink had the fixes for the hamm version of kde...

Sorry for the excessive explanation.. I hate explaining things..

If someone can help, I will be eternally grateful!

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Printcap doesn't run filter script

1998-10-26 Thread Kent West
I've got an /etc/printcap (permissions = -rw-r--r--  root root) that looks
like:

 beeper:\
:if=/home/westk/beeper-filter:\
:lp=/dev/null:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/beeper:

(permissions on /var/spool/lpd/beeper = -drwxrwxr-x  lp lp)

and a /home/westk/beeper-filter (permissions = -rwxr-xr-x  root root) that
looks like:

 #!/usr/bin/perl
 $recipient = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]";
 $subject = "Beeper Message";
 $mailprog = "mail";

 open (MAIL, "|$mailprog -s \'$subject\' $recipient");
 
 print MAIL " Header Line\n\n";
 
 while () {
 print MAIL $_;
 }
 
 print MAIL "\n Footer Line\n";
 close MAIL;
 
 

As root in any non-empty directory (such as /etc), I'm typing
ls -l|lpr -Pbeeper
Then four files appear in the spool directory and stay until I rm them, 
and the mail message is apparently never generated (at least it never 
shows up in my mailbox).

I've also tried putting a
print "Text";
just after the 
#!/usr/bin/perl
line, but I never see the test message printed. However, I just realized,
could the test message be printing to /dev/null? If so, how do I redirect 
the test message to my screen so that I can verify that the beeper-filter 
is being run when I print something?

(Thanks to Jim Foltz for getting me this far, esp the basic script.)


Re: Printing Problems

1998-10-26 Thread Kent West

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:

> I have been trying to follow the Printing-HOWTO instructions, but to no
> avail.
> 
> In my printcap I have
> 
> lp 
>  :sd:/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
>  :mx#0\
>  :lp=/dev/lp1:\
>  :sh:
> 
I'm no expert, but it looks to me like you have several typos. I believe
there should be ":\" on the end of line 0, and on line 1 the ":" following
":sd" should be "=", and on line 2 there should be ":" before "\". I'd try
these changes and see what happens.

Kent



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