Re: CD Debian 2.0
Alexander Gieg wrote: Ola'! Eu ate' ja' tinha esquecido que tinha assinado essa lista de discussao. E' otimo vela funcionando! Como primeira mensagem, entao, gostaria de perguntar-lhes: alguem sabe onde, no Brasil (se possivel em Sao Paulo / SP), e' possivel adquirir uma copia dos CDs oficiais do Debian 2.0? Eu sei que posso comprar pela Internet, via Cheapbytes etc., mas a entrega demora e gostaria de te-lo logo em maos... :-) Afinal, a ultima vez que usei o Debian ele estava na versao 1.2 (ainda tenho o CD), e creio que deve haver uma ou outra novidade, nao? ;-) Obrigado! []'s Alexander Gieg Oi Alexandre, Posso te fornecer (e a quem mais interessar) um conjunto oficial do Debian Hamm (2.0), sao 3 CD´s, que adquiri de um distribuidor oficial, atraves de um amigo em Miami: - i386 binary - contrib non-free - source Como so tenho um gravador de CD, minha produçao eh pequena, mas acho que da para atender a um pequeno grupo. Moro em Sao Paulo. Se interessar, mande-me um email. Vinicius
Até logo
Oi pessoal, vou estar um mês aproximadamente sem poder responder e-mails por causa da faculdade. Espero que vocês levem avante as idéias de nacionalizacão e distribuicão da Debian em português. Mês que vem espero voltar. Até logo, Paulo Henrique
Re: CD Debian 2.0
Vinicius De Mario writes:
Alexander Gieg wrote:
Como primeira mensagem, entao, gostaria de perguntar-lhes: alguem sabe
onde, no Brasil (se possivel em Sao Paulo / SP), e' possivel adquirir
uma copia dos CDs oficiais do Debian 2.0?
Posso te fornecer (e a quem mais interessar) um conjunto oficial do
Debian Hamm (2.0), sao 3 CD´s, que adquiri de um distribuidor oficial,
Um pequeno aparte, o Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 'Slink' está praticamente
lancada. Isto não quer dizer que você tem que esperar já que a versão
2.0 é mais do que suficiente para 99% dos usuários mas em todo caso dê
uma conferida nas novidades (anexei uma mensagem abaixo com infos a
respeito).
Ciao,
Ricardo.
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Subject: Re: Article introducing Slink
From: Adam Di Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 01 Feb 1999 01:57:18 -0500
On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:23:14 +0100, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'm currently writting an article for an online magazine
based on free software proyects called OpenResources
(www.openresources.com) who where interested in having a preview of
what Slink will offer. However, I'm at a loss to grasp all the
differences between Hamm and Slink, and would not like to give false
impressions or leave out information.
Have you seen the release notes? I've included them below.
This is the reason for the crosspost to debian-press. As of
currently Debian has not made any announcements of what Debian 2.1
('slink') will bring other than more software... ;) I'm aware that
we had some project goals for slink (which are not publicly known),
and maybe we should made a public statement of
We dropped project goals, but there are a number of new things for
this release. Hasn't Bob Hillard made a statement of these?
1.- Why Debian slink is going to release later than expected
Huh? There was no release date set. I don't know who's expectations
your talking about; certainly not Debian's. We looking set to release
soon, less than 7 months after the last major release. I think that's
a pretty good cycle. An *informal* goal we set was two releases a
year, and we're looking to be pretty darn close to that.
2.- What Debian slink will bring (i.e. what proyect goals have been
fulfilled)
We have
__
Table of Contents:
1. Introduction to Slink
2. The size of Debian
3. Goals of Debian 2.1
4. Things to point out in Debian 2.1
5. How to get Debian
__
Debian, the proyect founded by the Free Software Foundation
http://www.fsf.org, and which currently has its own entity, is a
distribution (which has already been introduced in OperResources)
that currently stands amongst the three more important GNU/Linux
distributions.
We were never founded by the FSF. Please see the project history
URL:http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/project-history/index.html
Although the previous stable release of Debian saw the light in
June last year, the developers that maintain the distribution set
themselves as a goal the release of the next version of Debian by
the end of the year.
We've never set date lines for release, actually, at least not officially.
However, this has not happened due to some
problems with bug fixes of packages that make up the distribution,
and to the fact that, in the same months, Debian maintainers have
voted their first Consitution
http://www.debian.org/devel/constitution, and elect a new Project
Leader http://vote.debian.org, that will continue forward after
Ian Murdock leaves that position.
Ian Jackson.
I don't think these causes significantly delayed the distribution.
Since I deny there are 'delays' since we never set official release
dates, I can't really talk about what has delayed us. However, I can
mention some issues which has delayed the freeze: problems with libc6
miscompilation by accident, which infected some other packages, the
need to get a multi-cd building and installation system, since the
Debian binary distribution doesn't fit on one CD anymore.
Additionally, we have tried to ensure that the upcoming release is
compatible with both the Linux 2.0 and the new 2.2 kernels (just
released last week).
Really, all in all it's been a smooth release. Sure, I wish freeze
could be shorter; we all do. I think the consensus amongst thinking
developers is that the true way to prepare more for the release
*prior* to freeze. I'd like to see a release team which is working at
all times, not just after we freeze.
...before releasing a new stable version, has continued up until
February 1999. Currently (January 1999) some problems with the
installation disks are being worked upon, as well as some bugs with
some of the packages.
We froze around
Re: sugerencias
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, TooManySecrets wrote: Felipe Sanchez el día Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 11:40:19AM -0300 expuso lo siguiente: Como nuestros estilos de trabajo son distintos yo no uso el tipo de software que él necesita, así que les escripo a ver si alguien me da sugerencias. [...] Una pregunta : sabes donde encontrar los software equivalentes al: 1.- Adobe Photoshop Gimp. 2.- Corel Draw 3.- Textos, cálculo (Star office, creo) Tanto para el primero como para el segundo, el StarOffice 5.0. En el primer caso no llega a la potencia del Corel, pero bueno, ahí es nada... Creo haber leido en no-se-donde que hay un Corel 3.algo para linux. Sabeis algo ?? Seria un buen principio. -- Have a nice day ;-) Grupo AGUILA TooManySecretsHay gente que vive y merece morir, y gente que muere y merece vivir. ¿Puedes devolver la vida? Pues no te apresures a dispensarla, ya que ni el más sabio conoce el fin de todos los caminos Gandalf (The Lord of the Rings) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Antonio Ballesteros[EMAIL PROTECTED] Proyecto Aguila - Linux - Terrassa
Re: Borrar directorio
Antonio Ballesteros dixit: On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Jaime E. Villate wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ¿Cómo hago para borrar un directorio con todo su contenido? rm -r directorio (piensa dos vezes antes del enter, porque un error te puede costar caro) Sobre todo por una linea que ponia en el mensaje original que dice algo como ... y lo hago como root, o sea que no debe tener problemas :) Nah, total sólo eliminé /usr/doc, /usr/local, /var, y /tmp (bueno, aunque antes los moví a otras particiones). -- Un saludo, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodet? --
Re: Query for dpkg.
On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Jose Albores wrote: Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:19:58 -0300 From: Jose Albores [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: Query for dpkg. Resent-Date: 2 Feb 1999 22:24:20 - Resent-From: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; I'd like to know how can I see which packages are in my dpkg's data base. Or more precisely: What command is equivalent to: # rpm -qa for rpm's packages ??? But for dpkg's ??? TIA. -- dpkg --list Benjamín Albiñana Pérez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User Nº78177 Espacio disponible para publicidad
Re: Query para dpkg.
On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Jose Albores wrote: Cual es el comando equivalente a: # rpm -qa Para saber cuales son los paquetes dpkg instalados ? $ dpkg -l|grep ^.i 'dpkg -l' lista todos los que están en la base de datos, estén o no instalados. Con el grep seleccionamos sólo los instalados. -- Los sueños no se descubren hasta que uno despierta (Abre los ojos) David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://come.to/Hue-Bond.world --==[ Linux 2.2.1 ]==--Linux Registered User no. 87069 PGP Public key at http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_pubkey.asc
CD 3: contrib
¿Como puedo instalar el CD 3 de la distribucion Hamm?. Creo que con dselect no es posible.
X 3.3.3 en formato deb
Hola a todos: ¿Sabe alguien si están las Xfree versión 3.3.3 en formato deb? He intentado convertir la versión tgz pero no los reconoce como actualización de los que tengo instalados (ver. 3.3.2) y necesito la 3.3.3 para usar mi Riva TNT. Saludos Pablo Villanueva
Usuarios plussed
Hola a todos Perdonar por el mensaje, porque puede resultar un poco off-topic. He estado leyendo documentacion de sendmail, y me ha interesado el tema de los usuarios plussed, pero no veo como se lleva a cabo, me imagino que sera añadiendo en el /etc/aliases, pero solo me lo imagino. ¿Sabe alguien como se hace, o en otro caso donde puedo encontrar documentacion en español sobre el tema? Gracias y saludos.
Re: X 3.3.3 en formato deb
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 09:42:54AM +0100, Area Tecnica, Externo17 wrote: Hola a todos: ¿Sabe alguien si están las Xfree versión 3.3.3 en formato deb? Haberlas haylas, pero de momento sólo en la Debian japonesa. He intentado convertir la versión tgz pero no los reconoce como actualización de los que tengo instalados (ver. 3.3.2) y necesito la 3.3.3 para usar mi Riva TNT. Hasta que tengamos los deb de la 3.3.3 en potato, te basta con pillarte el servidor, ya que el resto (utilidades, bibliotecas...) son compatibles con la versión anterior. Luego lo metes en /usr/local/bin , editas la primera línea del fichero /etc/X11/Xserver para que apunte a /usr/local/bin/Xloquesea, y listo. Saludos, -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telnet en Slink
Hola, Buscando entre los paquetes de slink no he conseguido encontrar el programa telnet. Este en bo se encontraba en el paquete netstd, sin embargo, este paquete de slink (o de potato) no contienen ese programa. Alquien sabe en que paquete de slink podria entrarlo? Hasta mas bits, -- - Jose Luis Trivintilde;o Rodriguez LAB. 2.3.4 Tlf.: (95) 2132863 http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.html - La medida de programar es programar sin medida
Re: Telnet en Slink
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 11:18:33AM +, Jose Luis Trivino wrote: Hola, Buscando entre los paquetes de slink no he conseguido encontrar el programa telnet. Este en bo se encontraba en el paquete netstd, sin embargo, este paquete de slink (o de potato) no contienen ese programa. Alquien sabe en que paquete de slink podria entrarlo? debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/net/telnet_0.12-4.deb Sugerencia: En http://www.es.debian.org/distrib/packages (y demás réplicas) hay un fantástico buscador en el que pones el nombre del fichero que buscas y te dice en qué paquete está. Saludos, -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telnet en Slink
Enrique Zanardi wrote: On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 11:18:33AM +, Jose Luis Trivino wrote: Sugerencia: En http://www.es.debian.org/distrib/packages (y demás réplicas) hay un fantástico buscador en el que pones el nombre del fichero que buscas y te dice en qué paquete está. Genial! pero este buscador no funciona :-( De todas formas muchisimas gracias por tu ayuda. Hasta mas bits, -- - Jose Luis Trivintilde;o Rodriguez LAB. 2.3.4 Tlf.: (95) 2132863 http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.html - La medida de programar es programar sin medida
Re: Telnet en Slink
Hola : Si estas tienes configurado tu navegador para mostra el documento en español, este buscandor no funcionara. Abajo, en las ultimas lineas tienes opciones de idiomas, esoje ingles, y veras que si funciona. On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 11:18:33AM +, Jose Luis Trivino wrote: Sugerencia: En http://www.es.debian.org/distrib/packages (y demás réplicas) hay un fantástico buscador en el que pones el nombre del fichero que buscas y te dice en qué paquete está. Genial! pero este buscador no funciona :-( De todas formas muchisimas gracias por tu ayuda. Hasta mas bits, Hernán Hernán J Cervantes Rodríguez Instituto de Física da USP e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage : http://fge.if.usp.br/~hernan/
Re: tocando la cage
Jordi Roman Mejias wrote: ahora mismo mis variables de entorno son LANG=es_ES.iso8859-1 LC_ALL=C Cuidado, pues me parece que LC_ALL tiene preferencia sobre LANG y sobre todas las demas variables de entorno LC_xxx, por lo que te estas cargando el valor de LANG con el de LC_ALL: Deberias hacer unset LC_ALL y dejarla sin definir. Por otra parte, LANG=es_ES.iso8850-1 creo que es lo mismo que LANG=spanish (mas facil de recordar). Gracias adelantadas. Saludos, -- Jose Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instituto Nacional de Meteorologia SPAIN
Re: Faltan ficheros.
Area Tecnica, Externo17 wrote: ¿Alguna sugerencia? (no vale que me corte las venas) En principio valdria con que renombras el directorio de fuentes del kernel /usr/src/linux a /usr/src/linux.old o lo que sea (o bien lo borras si ya no lo quieres), y luego instalas el paquete kernel-sources-2.0.xx (la version que quieras). Con eso deberia valer para recompilar el kernel sin problemas. Saludos y gracias de antemano. Pablo Villanueva SalU2 -- Jose Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instituto Nacional de Meteorologia SPAIN
Re: kernel 2.2.x acentos
On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Jordi Roman Mejias wrote:
Buscando buscando he descubierto el fichero /etc/init.d/keymaps.sh en
el cual se hace referencia a un fichero llamado /var/lib/kbd/kernel.map
o /var/lib/console-tools/kernel.kmap ¡ QUE NO TENGO !
¿Y qué versión tienes de Debian o del paquete? En mi keymaps.sh hace
referencia a /etc/kbd/default.map.gz .
¿Alguien me lo puede pasar?
Mira a ver si lo tienes y cambia el /etc/init.d/keymaps.sh en
consecuencia. El mío dice:
··8·
#!/bin/sh
#
# Load the keymaps *as soon as possible*
#
test -f /bin/loadkeys || exit 0
PACKAGE=kbd
CONFDIR=/etc/${PACKAGE}
case $PACKAGE in
kbd) EXT=map ;;
console-tools) EXT=kmap ;;
esac
case $1 in
start | restart | force-reload | reload)
if [ -r ${CONFDIR}/default.${EXT} -o -r ${CONFDIR}/default.${EXT}.gz ]
; then
/bin/loadkeys ${CONFDIR}/default.${EXT}
fi
;;
[ ... etc ... ]
8·
OFF TOPIC ¿Por que las pizzas de la tele son redondas?
Lo siento, ahí ya me has pillado. No he encontrado ningún Telepizza-HOWTO.
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Re: Telnet en Slink
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 12:19:06PM +, Jose Luis Trivino wrote: Enrique Zanardi wrote: On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 11:18:33AM +, Jose Luis Trivino wrote: Sugerencia: En http://www.es.debian.org/distrib/packages (y demás réplicas) hay un fantástico buscador en el que pones el nombre del fichero que buscas y te dice en qué paquete está. Genial! pero este buscador no funciona :-( ¿A qué te refieres? Yo mismo lo he probado esta mañana. Saludos, -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telnet en Slink
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 10:24:24AM -0200, Hernan Joel Cervantes Rodriguez wrote: Hola : Si estas tienes configurado tu navegador para mostra el documento en español, este buscandor no funcionara. Abajo, en las ultimas lineas tienes opciones de idiomas, esoje ingles, y veras que si funciona. ¿Exactamente qué es lo que no funciona? Ya he hecho cinco veces la prueba, concetándome desde distintas máquinas, con Linux, Netscape Navigator 4.5 y negociación de contenido, y siempre funciona. Estamos hablando del buscador que hay al final de la página http://www.es.debian.org/distrib/packages , el que aparece bajo el título Búsquedas en el contenido de la última versión, ¿correcto? Saludos, -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problema con el disco
Durante el boot obtengo este mensaje donde segun parece se desactiva el
DMA:
[...]
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, ATA DISK drive
hdb: QUANTUM MAVERICK 540A, ATA DISK drive
hdc: CRD-8240B, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, 3337MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=847/128/63, UDMA
hdb: QUANTUM MAVERICK 540A, 516MB w/98kB Cache, CHS=524/32/63, DMA
hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.52
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
hdb:
(aqui espera al menos unos 10 segundos i luego ...)
hdb: timeout waiting for DMA
hdb: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hda: DMA disabled
hdb: DMA disabled
ide0: reset: success
hdb1
[...]
Alguien sabe que significa y porque pasa?
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Re: Telnet en Slink
Hola : ¿Exactamente qué es lo que no funciona? Ya he hecho cinco veces la prueba, concetándome desde distintas máquinas, con Linux, Netscape Navigator 4.5 y negociación de contenido, y siempre funciona. Estamos hablando del buscador que hay al final de la página http://www.es.debian.org/distrib/packages , el que aparece bajo el título Búsquedas en el contenido de la última versión, ¿correcto? El problema que comente en mi anterior mail acontecio la semana pasada (¿o la anterior?) la cosa es que no funcionaba. Ahora mismo probe, y, o maravilla esta funcionando. Parece que fue arreglado. Hernán Hernán J Cervantes Rodríguez Instituto de Física da USP e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage : http://fge.if.usp.br/~hernan/
Re: tocando la cage
Jordi Roman Mejias wrote: Pues eso intentando averiguar porque no tenia acentos en el kernel 2.2.0 o 2.2.1 me he quedado sin acentos . De esto se deduce que no era cosa del kernel, pero no se de que. Alguien tiene alguna sugerencia A mi me pasó lo mismo, sólo tienes que seguir los pasos que te indica el Fuente-ISO-Como (en /usr/doc/HOWTO/spanish). En resumen todo gira en torno al: echo -ne '\033(K' Pruebaló y verás como te aparecen todos los acentos. No sé porqué con los 2.0.X no hacía falta pero con los 2.1.X sí. ahora mismo mis variables de entorno son LANG=es_ES.iso8859-1 ¿A tí te funciona bien así?, yo tengo: LANG=es_ES.ISO-8859-1 LC_ALL=C ¿Y eso último por qué? He leído por ahí que a veces hay problemas con dpkg (creo) si tienes las locales en español pero yo nunca he tenido ninguno. Además de LANG tengo definido también LANGUAGE=es:fr y todo me vá como la seda. Saludos, -- Sergio Rael Gutierrez +- Helping distributed.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP key 0x3D526CBD (RSA) Linux Debian 2.0 hamm --+ Albatera (Alicante) SPAIN
RDSI Y MÁS PROBLEMAS.
Estimados amigos, Uso la debian 2.0 y tengo una tarjeta RDSI elsa quickstep 1000 la cual está ampliamente soportada. Desde el cambio a I+ me han comentado que hay que usar la conexión con isdnutils beta 3 y ipppd y chap. La verdad es que no tengo ni idea que significa esto y lo que hago es lo siguiente. Me baje la beta3 y actualice a la que ya habia. isdnconfig y cree todo lo que se pareciera a ippp0 y copie lo que tenia en pap a chap y lo ultimo que he hecho es: ejecutar ipppd con el resultado de que me manda a freir pingüinos. Ruego, a alguien que tenga el mismo problema que me indique que debo hacer. Otra pregunta:¿?¿?¿ como se instala el kade que viene en el cd contrib Un saludo. Angel
Informacion: Acentos en emacs
Ya que se ha hablado tanto de los acentos ultimamente, les cuento algo que descubrí accidentalmente y que me resolvió un problema que me estaba volviendo loco desde hace varios dias: Cuando uno trabaja en emacs, si la fecha del ratón se sale de la ventana del texto, los acentos dejan de funcionar. Si por ejemplo intento escribir á y el cursor está por fuera, oigo un pito al oprimir ' y la a queda sin tilde. Lo mismo me ha pasado en hamm y slink, usando emacs20 (20.2-4). Será un bug de emacs? y será que lo mismo pasa con otras versiones? Jaime Villate Universidad de Oporto
swap_free: swap-space map null (entry 0000c000)
¿Alguien sabe qué significa esto? Apareció en pantalla nada más fetchmail acabó de bajar el correo: swap_free: swap-space map null (entry c000) -- Un saludo, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodet? --
Re: sugerencias
Antonio Ballesteros el día Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 12:51:47AM + expuso lo siguiente: 2.- Corel Draw 3.- Textos, cálculo (Star office, creo) Tanto para el primero como para el segundo, el StarOffice 5.0. En el primer caso no llega a la potencia del Corel, pero bueno, ahí es nada... Creo haber leido en no-se-donde que hay un Corel 3.algo para linux. Sabeis algo ?? Seria un buen principio. Lo único que sé es que para finales de éste año tendremos Corel Draw para Linux. Eso según los de Corel. Y luego, lo que no sé es la fecha para el WordPerfect 2000 Suite, que también lo están portando para Linux, pero creo que va ligado con la revisión y puesta en firme de la librería wine. -- Have a nice day ;-) Grupo AGUILA TooManySecretsHay gente que vive y merece morir, y gente que muere y merece vivir. ¿Puedes devolver la vida? Pues no te apresures a dispensarla, ya que ni el más sabio conoce el fin de todos los caminos Gandalf (The Lord of the Rings)
Alguien sabe como añadir fuentes a Staroffice y que se impriman con Ghotscript?
Pues eso, estoy intentando añadir algunas fuentes a staroffice , el problema es que no me las imprime ghostscript en principio lo que hago es usar printafm para crear los ficheros de metrica y añadirlos con el psetup de staroffice el problema es que al imprimirlo me los sustituye por times. Esta claro que estoy haciendo algo mal o dejando de hacer algo pero no caigo el que. la nueva fuente no esta en el fichero gs.Fontmap, pero tampoco esta ninguna de las de star office y las imprime. ¿ es necesario añadirla a gs.Fontmap ? la fuente en cuestion es la blippo de freefonts. -- Antonio Calvo Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vigo/Galicia/España --
Creacion de ficheros .deb
BUENOS DIAS!!! Pues estoy metiendome con eso de la creacion de paquetes, y cuando me pongo a crearlo me sale siempre ( y varias veces ): no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME (alvaro) at /usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl line 16. ¿es malo? ¿ la cuestion es que los .deb se generan sin problemas, pero me gustaria que no me diese el error ( si es posible ) La segunda cuestion es que estoy debianizando, unas programita ( heretic ) que genera binarios para X Window y para SVGA lib, y el fichero control me esta dando problemas. La idea es usar un solo directorio que genere los dos binarios, esto lo consiguomodificando la linea package=nombre_de_packete, de rules y en funcion de esa genera el paquete xheretic o el paquete vgaheretic. Los fichero que varian los tengo asi: debian/xheretic.menu debian/vgaheretic.menu Y el propio rules utiliza el que sea en funcion de la variable Me interesa usar un solo debian/control para tenerlo un poco mas controlado, pero cuando el rules al final hace : dpkg-genchanges -b no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME (alvaro) at /usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl line 16. dpkg-genchanges: error: package xheretic in control file but not in files list ¿a que ser refiere? estoy perdido. el fichero .deb lo genera, y ademas me genera un linux-heretic_0.9.2_i386.changes de 0 bytes de tamaño. ( ya que en changelog y en control tengo puesto ese nombre como el de las fuentes ) ¿voy por el camino correcto? Y ya hablando de paquetes debian: para ser un el responsable oficial de un programa, ¿es necesario saber programar? me explico: No me importaria tener a mi cargo dos o tres paquetes que creo que no esta debianizados aun, pero aunque se programar un poco, si alguien descubre un bug en uno de los programas, pues solo puedo decir pos fale, pos me alegro, se lo dire al creador a ver si puede hacer algo De echo esto me pasa con sabre, un simulador de vuelo ( en c++ ) que en hamm me compilaba sin problemas, pero cuando me pase a la 2.0 y me puse a recomilarlo contra libc6, pues daba un monton enorme de errores, y no tengo ni idea de porque pasa eso. Ademas no se demasiado ingles, y no tengo tiempo para estar apuntado a otras dos o tres listas, que supongo sera lo que hay que hacer... Bueno, muchas gracias por adelantado y perdon por el peaso mensaje. -- Everything is an object. - Thomas Wang grettings_[EMAIL PROTECTED] of __ _| |___ __ _[EMAIL PROTECTED] Saludos/ _` | / -_) _` | http://pagina.de/alea de \__,_|_\___\__,_| ICQ#17770744
xserver-common_3.3.2.3a-9.deb
The installation of xserver-common_3.3.2.3a-9.deb fails with this message: DPKG ERROR Do you wish to delete the installed package (.deb) files? [y]: And the installtion is stopped. How can I correct this problem ? -- \\|// VDB g (O O) OOO~(_)~oOOO~~~ :o) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :-xxx ooO~Ooo ~~:-)
Meta and Alt keys
I had occasion today to be playing on a Sun Sparcstation which ran XDM with the chooser. Out of curiosity, I entered my machine's address, and whoa! it worked! So I was playing around on my own system from the Sun for a little while, complete with the Sun's Unix keyboard, and discovered that it's really handy to have a real Meta key in addition to an Alt. For one thing, it works from xemacs (alt does not), and it eliminates the annoying bug that fvwm2 has where the Alt key spontaneously quits being useful as a panning/shortcut/windowmanager key and starts getting passed to programs. I think it would be really handy to change my keymap (either in X or the console, or both) so that Alt is an Alt key and the useless Win95 Start key is a Meta key. However, I haven't been able to find any accurate documentation on how to do this. The Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO on my system is dated 16 November 1997 and whatever it told me to do to change the default keymap for the console (I tried this a month or two ago, just for kicks) didn't work; I could load the new map manually but something else was being booted. The same for X: I have seen several references to xmodmap, but have also seen that it is defunct and has been replaced by something which is not named. How would I do this? This also seems like something which would be helpful as a system default, since so many newbies (me included) are putting Linux on a 3 year old Windows system. Thanks, Rob -- Applause, n: The echo of a platitude from the mouth of a fool. -- Ambrose Bierce
Re: no improvement using buffer with tar?
*- On 3 Feb, Jason Gunthorpe wrote about Re: no improvement using buffer with tar? On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I was a little disappointed with respect to its claims and its actual performance. I would like to speed up my backup, as it is now a backup of my system containing about 5.5Gigs takes almost 5.5hrs. That is only about 275k/s transfer rate which is way below the capabilities of the drive. Which leads me to believe there can be improvements on the software side of my backup. Listen to the tape while it is running, it should basically emit a nice constant sound. If it doesn't and you hear it 'back up' then that is why Yep, it does that. things are so slow for you. It may well be that you bought a tape drive that requires a higher data rate than your PCee can sustain, this is what buffer is supposed to help with. Make a -really- big buffer (like 10-50 meg) and set the low/high marks at the far end so that it generates a big wack meg of data and then starts feeding the tape.. Now if your disks and Buffer would only accept a 20 meg maximum buffer. How can I increase the shared memory so that it will use more, I have 96 meg of ram? The backups are done at night so nothing is active so it should be able to swap other things out. I know nothing about shared memory. your CPU (compression) can mostly keep up with the tape then you will be fine with this, but if the tape vastly outmatches your systems performance (ie it can stream 2meg/sec or something crazy like that) then you will see little or no speed gain and possibly even a loss. I have a P233 and the specs on the scsi-2 tape drive are: Transfer Rate (Kbytes/sec) 600/450/300 Tape Speed Read/Write (ips) 75/51/33 Search/Rewind (ips) 90 Backup Rate, Sustained Native (Mbytes/min, max) 30 Compressed (Mbytes/min, max) 60 Thanks for your input. I have done some trials today and with what I could use for the buffer size it did a little better. It looks like the bottleneck is when tar gets to large files, aka CPU. Thanks, -- Brian
Re: Meta and Alt keys
Rob Mahurin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I had occasion today to be playing on a Sun Sparcstation which ran XDM with | the chooser. Out of curiosity, I entered my machine's address, and whoa! | it worked! So I was playing around on my own system from the Sun for a | little while, complete with the Sun's Unix keyboard, and discovered that | it's really handy to have a real Meta key in addition to an Alt. For one | thing, it works from xemacs (alt does not), and it eliminates the annoying | bug that fvwm2 has where the Alt key spontaneously quits being useful as a | panning/shortcut/windowmanager key and starts getting passed to programs. | | I think it would be really handy to change my keymap (either in X or the | console, or both) so that Alt is an Alt key and the useless Win95 Start key | is a Meta key. Hmm, I thought this was the default. I seem to distinctly remember changing that around because I hated those d*mn Windows keys so much I removed them from my keyboard! I'm using slink on my main system so maybe that's the difference? Anyway, the xkeycaps program is your friend in X! I think it's in it's own Debian package? It allows you to define the keys anyway you want, save it to a file, and I think tells you how to load it by default when you log in. | However, I haven't been able to find any accurate documentation on how to do | this. The Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO on my system is dated 16 November 1997 | and whatever it told me to do to change the default keymap for the console | (I tried this a month or two ago, just for kicks) didn't work; I could load | the new map manually but something else was being booted. The same for X: I | have seen several references to xmodmap, but have also seen that it is | defunct and has been replaced by something which is not named. | | How would I do this? This also seems like something which would be helpful | as a system default, since so many newbies (me included) are putting Linux | on a 3 year old Windows system. As I said, to each his own, but I hate those keys, even in Windows. Can't count the times in a game I was trying to hit the Alt key and hit the Win key instead only to be popped back to desktop. As I said, I pryed those suckers completely off! In addition, under Linux I redefined my Alt keys, via xkeycaps, to be my Meta key for XEmacs too. Good Luck, Gary
(Fwd) Cron root@www run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly
Why would cron do the following one day (in forty or so to date) then return to working fine the following day and since. df shows lots of free space around. Any thoughts? TIA, Chris --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 06:47:00 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly /etc/cron.weekly/apcd: Reopening apcd logfiles run-parts: /etc/cron.weekly/apcd exited with return code 1 /etc/cron.weekly/dhelp: shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories job-working-directory: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories find: cannot open current directory: Permission denied shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories /etc/cron.weekly/man2html: permission denied or non-existent: /usr/local/man/man* PSYCTC: Psychotherapy, Psychology, Psychiatry, Counselling and Therapeutic Communities; practice, research, teaching and consultancy. Chris Evans Jo-anne Carlyle Tel/fax.:(+44|0)181-671 0868 http://psyctc.org/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Setting up debian for ftp
hello, Just installed 2.0. I haven't used debian since 1.2 (been using RH), so I don't remember how to do all of this stuff... anyways, how would I go about setting up debian for regular non-anonymous ftp? and also, can someone tell me or guide to a doc how do setup ppp? thanks, Aaron
Re: dumb WordPerfect question
Brian Morgan wrote: I've run ./Runme, full install (successful), and still can't find the xwp executable. The only things in my wpbin directory are Readmes. Should I run the installer again? I've even tried using the find command, but to no avail. I speculate that you didn't download the whole package. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your brain is actually a fabulously complex computer, which means that on Jan. 1, 2000, it will stop working and your body will flop around like a recently caught perch. (Dave Barry, slightly paraphrased.)
Partioning HD with more than 1024 cylinders
Hello everyone, we just bought a brand-new computer which has a 18 GB (!) EIDE HD and I want to put Linux on it. It seems to have 2028 cylinders and I chopped of the space for Linux after the 1020th cylinder to stay under the 1024 cylinder limit for booting Linux directly from HD. When I start the installation, I cannot (re)partion the HD. When I do it by hand, fdisk (under Linux) will only deal with 1024 cylinders. What can I do to use this HD with Linux in the usual way? Wait for Debian 2.1, use another fdisk program? Any help and suggestions are welcome, Gerald -- --- Dr. Gerald H. Ristow Division of Engineering Colorado School of Mines Golden, CO 80401-1887, U.S.A. ---
Re: How to force re-installing a package?
Mamoun Alissali wrote: Hello, I've done a very stupid thing taht removed the /bin/cat binary, so I think I have to reinstall the textutils package (is there any other/better solution?), but can't do it since it is marked installed/up-to-date. How do I force dselect to reinstall it? Sorry for asking that question again, I saw the answer yesterday but I can't remember what it said and can't find the mail anymore. Thanks, Mamoun If your trying to install the *same* version of textutils, dpkg won't stop you, i.e. it doesn't mind. Just do 'dpkg --install textutilxxx.deb'. If you are trying to install an *older* version of textutils, then yes, by default, dpkg will not do that. You are trying to *downgrade* to an older version. Here you would have to force dpkg with a --force parameter. In this case, something like 'dpkg --install --force-downgrade textutilxxx.deb' would work. -- Ed C.
Minicom problem
Hi, I'm trying to use minicom to dial up my isp. It dials and then asks for a login and password. After I do this I get the following error: login: x Password:xx PPP session from (12.13.120.16) to 207.140.121.113 beginning~y}#.!}!}!}~ NO CARRIER If I put an S in front of my login name it takes me to a shell account. I don't know what that is really but what I want is to be able to access the internet and use Netscape. The reason I'm trying minicom is I'm having a modem problem when I use pon and poff; if you have been following the modem freezeup string you'll know what I'm talking about. How do I get this to work? Thanks, Kent
Re: Meta and Alt keys
On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 05:36:17PM -0700, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: Rob Mahurin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I think it would be really handy to change my keymap (either in X or the | console, or both) so that Alt is an Alt key and the useless Win95 Start key | is a Meta key. Hmm, I thought this was the default. I seem to distinctly remember changing that around because I hated those d*mn Windows keys so much I removed them from my keyboard! I'm using slink on my main system so maybe that's the difference? I bet it is. I'm running hamm. Anyway, the xkeycaps program is your friend in X! I think it's in it's own Debian package? It allows you to define the keys anyway you want, save it to a file, and I think tells you how to load it by default when you log in. [snip] As I said, to each his own, but I hate those keys, even in Windows. Can't count the times in a game I was trying to hit the Alt key and hit the Win key instead only to be popped back to desktop. As I said, I pryed those suckers completely off! I feel your pain -- that's why I want them do do something _useful_. In addition, under Linux I redefined my Alt keys, via xkeycaps, to be my Meta key for XEmacs too. Good Luck, Gary Thanks much, I will look into these things. As far as the console end of things, I can clarify my question a little bit: the defkeymap.map loaded by loadkeys -d is not the same as the default key map loaded at boot time. Where is the second one? Rob -- Swahili, n.: The language used by the National Enquirer to print their retractions. -- Johnny Hart
Re: Meta and Alt keys
Rob Mahurin wrote: On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 05:36:17PM -0700, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: Rob Mahurin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I think it would be really handy to change my keymap (either in X or the | console, or both) so that Alt is an Alt key and the useless Win95 Start key | is a Meta key. Hmm, I thought this was the default. I seem to distinctly remember changing that around because I hated those d*mn Windows keys so much I removed them from my keyboard! I'm using slink on my main system so maybe that's the difference? I bet it is. I'm running hamm. Anyway, the xkeycaps program is your friend in X! I think it's in it's own Debian package? It allows you to define the keys anyway you want, save it to a file, and I think tells you how to load it by default when you log in. [snip] As I said, to each his own, but I hate those keys, even in Windows. Can't count the times in a game I was trying to hit the Alt key and hit the Win key instead only to be popped back to desktop. As I said, I pryed those suckers completely off! I feel your pain -- that's why I want them do do something _useful_. In addition, under Linux I redefined my Alt keys, via xkeycaps, to be my Meta key for XEmacs too. Good Luck, Gary Thanks much, I will look into these things. As far as the console end of things, I can clarify my question a little bit: the defkeymap.map loaded by loadkeys -d is not the same as the default key map loaded at boot time. Where is the second one? Rob If you put a default.map[.gz] in /etc/kbd/ it will be read in during bootup. -- Ed C.
Re: Meta and Alt keys
*- On 3 Feb, Rob Mahurin wrote about Meta and Alt keys How would I do this? This also seems like something which would be helpful as a system default, since so many newbies (me included) are putting Linux on a 3 year old Windows system. My keyboard section in my XF86Config is this and the left and right window keys default to Meta_L and Meta_R resp. It also set the menu key Menu which can be bound in some apps like Xemacs which defaults the menu key to `popup-mode-menu'. Also in Xemacs I see that the alt keys produce A- . Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard AutoRepeat 500 5 XkbKeymap xfree86(us_microsoft) EndSection Hope this helps, -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: WP_8 find no X11R5
Helge Hafting wrote: Hello all in LinuxLand I've tried to install WordPerfect 8 No success. The installation program from WP tells me, that it's based on kernel 2 (that's ok) and X11R5 (not ok). I use X11R6 and when I try to launch the program, it says that a file in the R5 directory is missing. What do I do? Install a R5 (how?) or telling the WP to use the R6 directory (how?) Hmmm, I installed and used wp8 successfully (the one big file from Corel), and I don't have X11R5 installed. Maybe you should give us a little more info, like what exactly do the error messages say. Maybe your missing a symlink, like the one 'openwin' thats in /usr/, which points to /usr/X11R6/. -- Ed C.
Re: Samba 2.0.0 - are there any deb's?
I just d/l'd the samba packages from the stated directory and installed/configured them with dpkg. But it appears that sambaconfig was removed. What am I supposed to use to configure samba? Chris Remco van de Meent wrote: Björn Elwhagen wrote: I'm interested in knowing wheather there is a debian-package of Samba 2.0.0. If there isn't any and if there is gonna take time for it to be available i might just install the tar-ball instead. Perhaps at bit more hassle but... They are in the project/experimental/ directory on the ftp-site. bye, -Remco -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
S1 Spawning problem ..
Very new to Linux, Have loaded onto a Toshiba Satellite 110CS Laptop, with two PCMCIA Cards, 1 A CNET NE2000 Compatible, and the other a Motorola Montana, 33.6 k, I appear to have a problem with cardmgr as periodically i.e. every 5 minutes I get a cascade of bad command faults and the last line reads, S1 spawning to fast .. pausing for 5 minutes. I have looked in inittab and S1 line reads like S1 12345 Spawn... What is happening exactly, is it because the PCMCIA manager does not support the modem card? Smitty
RE: S1 Spawning problem ..
What is happening exactly, is it because the PCMCIA manager does not support the modem card? Possibly. Try grabbing the latest from potato and using it.
Re: Samba 2.0.0 - are there any deb's?
Use 'swat'. Look in path to top of samba source tree/swat/README for the documentation on setup... Basically you have to edit /etc/services and /etc/inetd.conf to make this new tool work. At the moment I have Samba 2.0 on 2 Debian machines and have had no trouble... Its actually a very nice upgrade from the last version. At 10:55 PM 2/3/99 -0500, Chris Hoover wrote: I just d/l'd the samba packages from the stated directory and installed/configured them with dpkg. But it appears that sambaconfig was removed. What am I supposed to use to configure samba? Chris Remco van de Meent wrote: Björn Elwhagen wrote: I'm interested in knowing wheather there is a debian-package of Samba 2.0.0. If there isn't any and if there is gonna take time for it to be available i might just install the tar-ball instead. Perhaps at bit more hassle but... They are in the project/experimental/ directory on the ftp-site. bye, -Remco -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: off topic - Assembler using GCC
Mmmh. What do you need this for? Primarily learning but I would like a few very simple highly optimised graphics routines for my machine. Line, circle, box and fill for e.g. I have looked several times at svgalib but all I want is the simple functions - it seems like overkill to include svgalib for just the few things I want. Maybe you should try to make use of ggi or similar project efforts? I was considering this until I read the comments of the current (?) svgalib maintainer in which he said that he had tried to contribute ideas/discussion/code(?) and got the impression that if he didn't agree with *everything* that was said done by the ggi team then he wasn't really that welcome. He also said that it seems that the same ppl believe that theirs is the *one true way* - competition/differences will not be tolerated. I have no comment on this as I do not know the full circumstances but a maintainer making statements like that was enough to put me off ggi. There was another project which I cannot remember the name of whose web page said that although there were some functions ready the project was pre-alpha. While I am learning I might as well start from scratch as try first to understand somebody elses pre-alpha code. You could also write your own (dirty!) kernel device driver module which allows you to access hardware directly. This is not too hard. Thanks - I'm thinking about this now. Are there any references other than the kernel hackers guide on writing drivers ? The khg wasn't clear enough for a bear of little brain such as I. As always, I appreciate your comments and help. Ivan.
xbase Depends on nmh xmh?
I ran dselect for a slink upgrade tonight, and dselect told me that xbase depends upon nmh and xmh. Has xbase always depended so? This seems odd from a user standpoint. Can anyone enlighten us on this? Art
Install to disk w/school's NT present??
I'm fighting the system at my community college to get Debian installed on five (of 20) lab computers which are maintained by the school's Info. Tech. group. Windows rules. The lab computers are occasionally wiped clean and a fresh image of NT installed off the LAN. I want to repartition the drives, put Linux in alongside NT, and boot to it (most likely off a boot disk) when teaching a computational chemistry course. Does anyone have experience with a setup similar to this? Am I being naive about doing this? Would there be problems with the disk wipe/image update process? (Disrupting the status-quo is the big issue here.) Also, is there any issue about the root partition being more than a Gb in on the IDE drive?? (The PC's are IBM-brand 133 or 166 pentiums, fairly recent ...). I was thinking about simply chopping off the back end of the current, single partition. (I don't know if NT has a defrag function, though.) Thanks for any help with this. Kenward Vaughan -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: X woes (potato)
I had something similar happen to me. What i found was the problem was that the xinitrc file was setup incorrectly. Basically i had to correct a line i had mistyped to do with xinitrc. (Although this, it must be said, gave the problem both with XDM and startx). I don't know if this helps Cheers JOE -- From: Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: X woes (potato) Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:32 PM After yesterdays X update to 3.3.2.3a-9 my system wanted to run xdm (I previously didn't use xdm). However, whenever I would log in, it would immediately return to the login screen. I decided to remove xdm, but now when I try to run X using startx, I get the gray screen and cursor (the window manager icewm-gnome, but it does this with any window manager doesn't get started) then X stops running and I see: waiting for X server to shut down Before that, I get: System: `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp -w 1 -R/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb -xkm -m us -em1 The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: -emp -eml Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server keymap/xfree86 /var/tmp/xfree86.xkm' Since this message showed up before, I'm pretty sure it is unrelated to the problem. Does anyone know what I can do to troubleshoot and/or fix this? Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: LPRNG BUG? (WAS: truncated printing)
Harrison, Shawn wrote: night I removed lprng (using dselect) and installed lpr (cd /cdrom/.../net dpkg -i lpr_*.deb), and now the problem is gone. I'd be Replaceing lprng with lpr solved my problem too. For the Debian List: Is this a bug with LPRNG? Or could it be a configuration problem? Or is it just an undocumented feature? ;^ It seems to me that is just a configuration problem, but until now I don't have time for read the entire documentation. Thanks, Karesz. ext I have a Debian 2.0 hamm system and a HP LaserJet 5L printer. I configured the magicfilter with HP Laserjet4. When I print a postscript page (A4) the printer is not informed about the end of job, I must press the eject page button, and the page is printed in 3/4 portion. The bottom 1/4 part of the page is blank. /ext
Re: off topic - Assembler using GCC
In a message dated 2/3/99 12:54:34 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's just not possible with a multi-user multi-tasking OS, particularly one like unix which has to present the same abstract model on completely different hardware. If one program messes with interrupts, how is any other program meant to perform its function when it doesn't know what the first one did? I'm not replying to be argumentative, but I am curious about this... I suppose there are cases where this is valid, but for my original point about communciations - it just isn't feasible to use IRQ4 (the first comm port) by more than one program concurrently, is it? Of course not - only one program can use one particular serial device at a time. In my case, I had reprogrammed IRQ4 so when a char came in from the modem, I could stuff it to a buffer for use later on, and send data to the buffer (and ultimately use the IRQ to send it back out again when the buffer was full) when I had my reply ready. Linux has device drivers doing this for you already! No problem! The device drivers handles irq's, io-addresses and buffering. A linux program simply open a serial device as if it were a file and reads from it and writes to it using normal stuff like fread(), fwrite(), fprintf() etc. It can't get much simpler than that. This approach is even possible under msdos [i.e. fopen(COM1:, w+)] but it is usually not done that way because the dos serial driver suck badly. The linux serial driver is good, so messing with irq's is simply not necessary. Just do a fopen(/dev/ttyS0, w+) and use the file handle. Take a look at the sources for various linux comm programs such as minicom if you want details on how to do this. I certainly wouldn't want another program taking chars from my modem while I'm using it. fopen() will simply fail for other programs trying to use the device while you use it. device or resource busy. No problem at all. How would you accomplish the same in Linux without using interrupt routines? See above. Using device drivers has lots of other advantages too: You can run several serial programs (each using different ports of course) simultaneously. Try that with dos. And you don't need to change your program if you get one of those high-performance multi-port cards - all you need is to open a different device. The fact such cards has a very different hardware implementation (all ports share the same irq, different registers...) is something your program don't need to worry about. That's the serial driver's responsibility. Helge Hafting
Modules and kmod - I'm confused
Dear all, I have a shiny new 2.2.1 kernel. I'm pretty sure I've not got modules sorted properly yet tho. I'm using kmod, so the kernel should load modules on demand. Do I need to add the rmmod -a line to root's crontab, or do the debian scripts put it somewhere? Also; I got a bunch of errors like ne: unable to find module ne at startup, but this doesn't seem to have had any detrimental effect (I'm writing this through my net card, for example). Modules that need config options need to go in /etc/modules.conf, right? How do I know which ones need some config? Also, with sound, for my card the documentation has the following: insmod mpu401 insmod ad1848 insmod opl3sa2 some options here insmod opl3 io=0xfoo Now I can do putting the options to opl3sa2 and op3 in /etc/modules.conf, but do I need to load all those modules by hand, or will kmod do this for me as soon as I do anything? Thanks, Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ Debian GNU/Hurd - love at first byte
Copying CDs
-- Please CC: me, I'm not subscribed -- My friend has a CD of his music he needs copied and I have the equipment to do it but I haven't used the tools yet. I need to do this soon so I'm asking for help. I essentially need to do dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/cdr. - Tom
[debian] debian.org gone?
Hi, I'm having troubles contacting www.debian.org for the last few days. Is anything wrong with the server? Nico -- --- system failure ... hit any user to continue ... --- Nico De Ranter Sony Service Center (PSDC-B/DNSE-B) Sint Stevens Woluwestraat 55 (Rue de Woluwe-Saint-Etienne) 1130 Brussel (Bruxelles), Belgium, Europe, Earth Telephone: +32 2 724 86 41 Telefax: +32 2 726 26 86 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian] debian.org gone?
Thus spake Nico De Ranter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm having troubles contacting www.debian.org for the last few days. Is anything wrong with the server? It's been working fine for me... Try running a traceroute (or mtr) to www.debian.org or 209.81.8.242 it could very well be something that is failing between you and www.debian.org. -- .oO,.. oneiros ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ..,Oo. ... and the `fortune -s` for this e-mail is ... Did I SELL OUT yet??
Re: off topic - Assembler using GCC
*-ivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You could also write your own (dirty!) kernel | device driver module which allows you to access hardware directly. This is | not too hard. | | | Thanks - I'm thinking about this now. Are there any references other than | the kernel hackers guide on writing drivers ? The khg wasn't clear enough | for a bear of little brain such as I. I think O'Reilly (I've never seen a bad book from them) has published a book by A. Rubini. It's called something like Writing Linux Device Drivers and I believe it has an angry horse on the cover. -- Eschew obfuscation(go on; look them both up) (Brian White) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unidentified subject!
Hi, Many thanks for all of you that made Linux (and Debian) a reality. It is perhaps not worth mention but I wrote a simple perl-Tk script (based on the widget script) easily configurable which generates X-windows GUI interfaces for user/shell commands. It is not bullet-proof but I find it useful, since it avoids the overload of programming a new GUI for each program/script I write and use interactively. I called it xcmd and those interested can download it from ftp://lince.cii.fc.ul.pt/pub/linux in deb, rpm ot tar.gz packing formats. It can be called by typing xcmd, xcmd your_command or xyour_command (after ln -s /usr/local/xcmd ~/bin/xyour_command). Comments and/or suggestions are welcome. Thanks +-+ Pedro J. O. Sebastião Centro de Física da Matéria Condensada Voice: +351 1 7904754/7904700 Av. Prof. Gama Pinto 2 Fax: +351 1 7954288 P-1649-003 Lisboa, Portugalemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lince.cii.fc.ul.pt/~pedros +-+
dpkg question
Hi, If I know a command, for example, compress, is it possible to use dpkg to find out which package is this command belongs to?? And this package may not be installed on the system. Thanks. Regards, Shao.
logo-contest
Hi all, I suppose everyone knows there is a gimp/logo contest for debian (http://contest.gimp.org/rules/). I find this a bit strange. On the one hand, the logo must be easily scalable, on the other hand, the gimp contest demands that it is totally developped in gimp. These are conflicting demands. I would say there should be a good scalable, good-looking in black and white, logo in a vector format first, which can then of course be manipulated in the gimp and raised to great artistic heights :) In other words, the fact that the logo-contest is a gimp-contest at the same time, limits the logo designers in a way that is by no means advantageous to debian. I would suggest that logo designers are at least _allowed_ to use any other tool they choose as well. Any Comments? Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Re: reading /usr/doc files
Hi, This might be an ideal solution for you.. 2.2. Script to view those compressed HOWTOs. Didier Juges, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a newbie to another, here is a short script that eases looking for and viewing howto documents. My howto's are in /usr/doc/faq/howto/ and are gzipped. The file names are XXX-HOWTO.gz, XXX being the subject. I created the following script called howto in the /usr/local/sbin directory: __ #!/bin/sh if [ $1 = ]; then ls /usr/doc/faq/howto | less else gunzip -c /usr/doc/faq/howto/$1-HOWTO.gz | less fi __ When called without argument, it displays a directory of the available howto's. Then when entered with the first part of the file name (before the hyphen) as an argument, it unzips (keeping the original intact) then displays the document. For instance, to view the Serial-HOWTO.gz document, enter: $ howto Serial On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Johann Spies wrote: On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Martin Waller wrote: Use TkDesk (requires X...) and double click on them. They will be automatically opened up and displayed in a window for you. Martin Is there a tool for reading the oodles of documentation in /usr/doc, or do I just have to go in there, gunzip, and more? You can use emacs or xemacs configured to read .gz files or use lynx, mc or filerunner. Johann -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him...And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof; but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. I John 2:15,17 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Re: off topic - Assembler using GCC
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I suppose there are cases where this is valid, but for my original point about communciations - it just isn't feasible to use IRQ4 (the first comm port) by more than one program concurrently, is it? In my case, I had reprogrammed IRQ4 so when a char came in from the modem, I could stuff it to a buffer for use later on, and send data to the buffer (and ultimately use the IRQ to send it back out again when the buffer was full) when I had my reply ready. I certainly wouldn't want another program taking chars from my modem while I'm using it. And that's just what the kernel can enforce through its privilege. How would you accomplish the same in Linux without using interrupt routines? Take a look at /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/serial.c for how linux does it. It's not that linux doesn't use interrupt routines, it's just that you (as a user in a user process) don't run them directly. You (as a kernel hacker) can do it in kernel-space within a device driver, like serial.c. If you take the kernel source as a model, it's not that difficult to write a simple device driver for a simple device, like, for example, a card I have for driving a motorised specimen stage. You just have to stick to the rules when interacting with the kernel. It's also about the only C programming I've ever bothered with. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: Minicom problem
Quoting ktb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, I'm trying to use minicom to dial up my isp. It dials and then asks for a login and password. After I do this I get the following error: login: x Password:xx PPP session from (12.13.120.16) to 207.140.121.113 beginning~y}#.!}!}!}~ NO CARRIER Looks fine to me, so long as there's a time interval between the last two lines. You need to run pppconfig with the chat method of authentication. The when you type pon and it sees the ppp garbage (~y}#.!}!}!}~), it'll exchange LCP and you'll be on. If I put an S in front of my login name it takes me to a shell account. I don't know what that is really but what I want is to be able to access the internet and use Netscape. Then you don't need the shell account, just the ppp connection. The reason I'm trying minicom is I'm having a modem problem when I use pon and poff; if you have been following the modem freezeup string you'll know what I'm talking about. How do I get this to work? Tell pppconfig the username and password as above, using chat (not chap or pap) authentication. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: X woes (potato)
On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 01:39:55PM -0600, Mike Merten wrote this: I had the same problem... check your ~/.xsession-errors file. It probably indicates a syntax error in the /etc/X11/Xsession file at line 47. I added a line immediately before the 'default)' case containing ';;' and everything started working. I get the exact same error-message as you do but i weren't able to solve your the problem your way. This is the change i did accordning to my interpretation of you fix. 47: ;; 48:default) 49: ;; I don't know too much scripting so i don't actually know what you would accomplish by this fix but i do know that i get this error-message instead: /etc/X11/Xsession: [: sh: binary operator expected What is wrong? Regards // Marwin -- | Björn Elwhagen aka Marwin Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Student at Wexio University for PGP public key. | | SwedenICQ: 356095 |
Re: Re: [whine] Power down. vs System halted.
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): *- On 3 Feb, trio wrote about Re: [whine] Power down. vs System halted. On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I belive we now use the POWER_OFF mechanism by default as machines with APM bioses and ATX power supplies actualy do shut off. Has anyone else run into this related problem? Basically i want to run server machines. That means i have them on a UPS. But there are times when the power is off even longer than the UPS can hold up the system. So, with the new ATX boxes, the power switch is off! Totally! A human has to push the button to turn it back on. Does anybody know a way to get around this new convenience? I'd like to be able to buy a new box and yet have it come back up after the power has been off. Look in the documentation for the motherboard. Most 'soft power off' systems have a jumper that can be set on the motherboard that will disable this. Or it may be even easier if it's set in the CMOS in a section like: Restore On AC/Power LossLast State On Modem Ring Stay Off On LAN Stay Off On PME Stay Off from one our our more recent machines. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
PCMCIA 3.0.8 (was Re: debian-user-digest Digest V99 #198)
Quoting Rune Linding Raun ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): well will pcmcia-cs 3.08 soon be ready so we can use pcmcia under kernel 2.2.1? its a very important package and iam disappointed that it takes so long before its bugfixed From http://hyper.stanford.edu/HyperNews/get/pcmcia/updates/17.html PCMCIA driver release 3.0.8 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:48:52 GMT If the bugs mentioned there are important to you, well tell the guy to get his butt in gear! ;-) Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
wine question
Hi, I have no idea how wine works, and I would like to have a try. But my windoze is running nt4, and the file system is NTFS, will wine support this?? Thx. Regards, Shao.
Re: dpkg question
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 09:55:10PM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, If I know a command, for example, compress, is it possible to use dpkg to find out which package is this command belongs to?? And this dpkg -S file should show this. package may not be installed on the system. In this case (ie You want to find package that contains specific file) go to http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages and use ne of the search engines there. (this url might be wrong i'm writing this from mem) -- Robert Ramiega | [EMAIL PROTECTED]IRC: _Jedi_ | Don't underestimate IT Manager @ PDi | http://plukwa.pdi.net/| the power of Source
Re: Partioning HD with more than 1024 cylinders
Linux fdisk can partition disks over 1024 cylinders - at least the version I have (2.9g) can. Cfdisk (v0.81) also can. These are the current slink versions in the util-linux package. Another option is the DOS-based Ranish Partition Manager, which you can find here: http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/ If you get the beta version (2.38), it can partition disks over 1024 cylinders, and it can create (but not format) Linux partition types. It also has some nice command line options to get detailed information about your partitions. Tom Gerald H. Ristow wrote: Hello everyone, we just bought a brand-new computer which has a 18 GB (!) EIDE HD and I want to put Linux on it. It seems to have 2028 cylinders and I chopped of the space for Linux after the 1020th cylinder to stay under the 1024 cylinder limit for booting Linux directly from HD. When I start the installation, I cannot (re)partion the HD. When I do it by hand, fdisk (under Linux) will only deal with 1024 cylinders. What can I do to use this HD with Linux in the usual way? Wait for Debian 2.1, use another fdisk program? Any help and suggestions are welcome, Gerald -- --- Dr. Gerald H. Ristow Division of Engineering Colorado School of Mines Golden, CO 80401-1887, U.S.A. --- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Why use xterm-debian?
Hi! I've been annoyed for a long time now with the fact that Debian uses xterm-debian as the TERM-variable. It can't surve any purpose for all i know, if the purpose isn't to be as incompatible with other *IX standards. Why not only use xterm-color instead? I could always set TERM=xterm myself, but that create trouble for some of the packages. And xterm-debian mucks with some programs that i compile and install myself. I don't know why they have started using this standard - but i sure think it sucks. If anyone could give me a correct answer to WHY i would be very grateful. Perhaps point me to some old discussion about it. That's about the only thing i don't like with Debian at the moment. I have been running it since Hamm was unstable and always used the unstable branches and almost never had any big trouble with it. Regards // Marwin -- | Björn Elwhagen aka Marwin Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Student at Wexio University for PGP public key. | | SwedenICQ: 356095 |
Re: reading /usr/doc files
hello there, if these are in text format you could use zless or zmore. Paul On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, This might be an ideal solution for you.. 2.2. Script to view those compressed HOWTOs. Didier Juges, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a newbie to another, here is a short script that eases looking for and viewing howto documents. My howto's are in /usr/doc/faq/howto/ and are gzipped. The file names are XXX-HOWTO.gz, XXX being the subject. I created the following script called howto in the /usr/local/sbin directory: __ #!/bin/sh if [ $1 = ]; then ls /usr/doc/faq/howto | less else gunzip -c /usr/doc/faq/howto/$1-HOWTO.gz | less fi __ When called without argument, it displays a directory of the available howto's. Then when entered with the first part of the file name (before the hyphen) as an argument, it unzips (keeping the original intact) then displays the document. For instance, to view the Serial-HOWTO.gz document, enter: $ howto Serial On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Johann Spies wrote: On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Martin Waller wrote: Use TkDesk (requires X...) and double click on them. They will be automatically opened up and displayed in a window for you. Martin Is there a tool for reading the oodles of documentation in /usr/doc, or do I just have to go in there, gunzip, and more? You can use emacs or xemacs configured to read .gz files or use lynx, mc or filerunner. Johann -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him...And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof; but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. I John 2:15,17 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: wine question
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 10:48:25PM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, I have no idea how wine works, and I would like to have a try. But my windoze is running nt4, and the file system is NTFS, will wine support this?? Wine is a Windoze emulator for 16bit applications and I do not think you can use you Win NT installation as a basis for the emulator but I might be mistaken... Check out www.wineHQ.com for information. Regards, -- /(__ __|\ Lars Steinke, Research Student @ (\/ __)_www.fmf.uni-freiburg.de, Germany ) (_ / for PGP PKey and WWW-Page finger /___/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copying CDs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Tom Lear wrote: -- Please CC: me, I'm not subscribed -- My friend has a CD of his music he needs copied and I have the equipment to do it but I haven't used the tools yet. I need to do this soon so I'm asking for help. I essentially need to do dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/cdr. Sorry, this won't work. You need a special tool to write to cd's. To copy the source cd you can either use cdda2wav or paranoia if it's a music cd (aka 'red book'), mount mkisofs (do a man on this program for more info), or use sdd (scsi dd) to do a bit-for-bit copy of the source. Note though, that the last option does actually do a bit for bit copy, meaning even things such as scratches will show up on the copy (the other tools would normally fix these problems). Once you have an image of the disc you'd like to copy, use cdrecord to burn the cd; the syntax wil be something like cdrecord -v dev=0,2,0 -eject speed=4 -audio *wav, just do a man on cdrecord. Chris - Visit Me At http://www.frostnet.advicom.net/chris/ - -- Public PGP Key: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject retrieve pgpkey or visit http://www.frostnet.advicom.net/chris/pgp_key.phtml -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNrmYkeEzIlbKpewXEQIMxgCeMtVCD4If/nIpiMSbB08ESW0bxpAAoLAN dnCN6hSIULe3zD0BrqnI53Vb =VuJF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Why use xterm-debian?
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 13:38:49 +0100, Björn Elwhagen wrote: I've been annoyed for a long time now with the fact that Debian uses xterm-debian as the TERM-variable. It can't surve any purpose for all i know, RTFM. In this case, http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html , or (depending on your install) /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian or /usr/doc/xterm/README.Debian . HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Matshita CR-585 module?
I have a machine with an ATAPI CD-ROM the MATSHITA CR-585. Does any body know wich should I use in order to support it and then wich device in /dev will represent it. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Help with smbfs?
I want to use a debian box to open a share in a win95 machine. Someone told me that in order to open shares I do not need samba, that I only need smbfs. I already instaled this module but know I do not know how to use it. Can somebody helpme or at least point to a web site with somekind of smbfs howto? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: dumb WordPerfect question
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Brian Morgan wrote: I've successfully unzipped and installed WordPerfect 8 onto /usr/local/wp8. Now what? What's the name of the executable and where is it? Readme's aren't helping. See /wp8/bin/ or was it /wp8/wpbin ? but however there is a file called xwp. Run ./xwp as 'root' or 'su' at the first time. I tshould start, if your installation was succesfull. hv
termcap...
Hi, I was trying to compile some program. In the Makefile, it has the following line: LIB = -ltermcap But when compiling, it said not found. So what package am I missing? But I thought this termcap is old, and is now replaced by something else, which I cannot recall the name... thanks for any help... Regards, Shao.
Re: minicom config
On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, ktb wrote: Hi, I'm trying to get away from my modem failing to hang up properly and am attempting to install mimicom. I went through the configuration process and as root, the program at least starts the dialup process. I aborted because I didn't want to be on line while in root. I then switched over as regular user and got the following message: ~$ minicom d minicom: there is no global configuration file /etc/minirc.d Ask your sysadm to create one (with minicom -s). Well I used minicom -s at the command line which takes me to the main configuration screen. I assume the file /etc/minirc.d goes in Filenames and pathsthe problem is I don't know which line to put the file in from the choices below: A - Download directory : B - Upload directory : C - Script directory : D - Script program : /usr/bin/runscript E - Kermit program : /usr/bin/kermit -l %l -b %b I would guess Script directory but I really don't have a clue and I don't want to screw this up. I am also assuming that I put /etc/minirc.d in either A, B, or C, as root and the program will make the appropriate file for me? I have been through the minicom man page and don't see anything about /etc/minirc.d. I tried messing with the minicom.users file to see if that would help, but it didn't. I would appreciate your help. Thanks, Kent -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null When you save from minicom -s as root, it will save to /etc/minirc.dfl; so, rename it to /etc/minicom.d.
Re: termcap...
On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 00:23:22 +1100, Shao Zhang wrote: I was trying to compile some program. In the Makefile, it has the following line: LIB = -ltermcap Termcape is obsoleted by ncurses. Change the line to LIB = -lncurses HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: XDM with chooser; WAS: Meta and Alt keys
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 12:08:19PM +0100, Karl Erik Øyøygard wrote: Hi! I've been trying to get a choice of wich display manager i should connect to on login on a SGI. Is this possible? Could You give me a hint on where I should start to look? The info I find for chooser here seems to be for remote servers connecting to this mashine, the opposite of what I want. If this is only possiple on SUN, in still interested, but the SGI stands right behind me ... Any input is very welcome! Thank's - Karl Erik Sorry --- I didn't mean to imply by telling that part of my story that I know anything about xdm, that was just how I happened to discover a Meta key. The login screen on the Sun had a row of menu buttons below the enter username field; the Options menu contained the submenu Remote Host with choose from list and enter hostname; entering my hostname was kind of a shot in the dark. It seems logical to me that one should be able to replicate such a setup using xdm on a Debian box (I know I've seent the word chooser in /etc/xdm/X* somewhere), but in the two minutes I looked yesterday I didn't find it and it's not a big deal to me anyway. I'm going to post this back on the list where the smart people hang out who can help you with the Debian end of this; the only tangible suggestion I can give you is to do a big fat man xdm on all machines concerned and see what you can pull up. Hope that helps and sorry again that I accidentally gave the impression of competence. Rob -- BOO! We changed Coke again! BLEAH! BLEAH!
Re: wine question
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 01:40:21PM +0100, Lars Steinke wrote: On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 10:48:25PM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, I have no idea how wine works, and I would like to have a try. But my windoze is running nt4, and the file system is NTFS, will wine support this?? Wine is a Windoze emulator for 16bit applications and I do not think you can use you Win NT installation as a basis for the emulator but I might be mistaken... I use wine occaisionally with an nt4 installation. The only problems that I've encountered are that several programs that are reported to work under wine do not. In general, I can run some small programs (freecell, minesweeper :) but larger, useful programs such as Wordperfect (7) fail. There is an option -winver nt4 or something like that once you get it up and running, but it hasn't worked any miracles for me. Also, you must be able to access your windoze partition to run wine; mine is vfat, so I'm okay, but I was under the impression that NTFS was unreadable to Linux and that this is the source of many pains in many butts. Check out www.wineHQ.com for information. why, what a phenomenal idea. I think I'll do that myself. Rob -- Spouse, n.: Someone who'll stand by you through all the trouble you wouldn't have had if you'd stayed single.
[no subject]
Hi,I am interested in the Linux operating system, but need to know more!I have a Dual Pentium II 400Mhz, 256Mb RAM, Windows NTv4.0 (SP3), 54GbUW/SCSI AV Harddisc array which we use for television and filmpost-production.We have a Pinnacle ReelTime Nitro NLE editing card installed, will thiswork with software like Adobe Premiere v5.1RT, Adobe After Effects,Lightwave, Effect/Paint etc.. under Linux?Can Linux and Windows NTv4 co-exist, and how would we benefit from usingLinux?Sorry for all the questions, but I am extremely interested in using anoperating system that utilises multi-threading!I look forward to your reply,Kind Regards,Phil @ Oddfish FilmsEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dpkg, apt, ftp
Hi I want to install slink on my personal machine. I want to use dselect with apt and ftp access; however, our line to the outside is small and loaded. There is a very recent (1 or 2 days old) mirror of slink on a local server that is available only using ftp, but _not_ anonymous ftp. Would some kind soul tell me how to specify an ftp login and password when using dselect, apt-ftp access -- so I can use this access method with my local archive. I will gladly supply information reqested about the machine. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because reboots are for new kernels and hardware upgrades.
Re: Copying CDs
On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Chris Frost wrote: [snip] or use sdd (scsi dd) to do a bit-for-bit copy of the source. Note though, that the last option does actually do a bit for bit copy, meaning even things such as scratches will show up on the copy (the other tools would normally fix these problems). Once you have an image of the disc you'd like to copy, use cdrecord to burn the cd; the syntax wil be something like cdrecord -v dev=0,2,0 -eject speed=4 -audio *wav, just do a man on cdrecord. I'm not familiar with this tool (sdd) is there a special way to write the data that it reads, or can I just use cdrecord the way I would use it to burn iso images? (I'm talking about data, here, not audio as the last guy was). Thanks in advance -Dan
more dumb WordPerfect ???s
Since I was having so much trouble finding the xwp executable (not in /usr/local/wp8/wpbin directory -- see previous posts), I removed the wp8 directory, and all its subordinants. I'm now trying to re-run the Runme script, but I get an error: nothing new to install. How do I get around this so I can run the Runme script again? BTW, I'm running slink, and have downloaded the full package for wp, not the smaller divided-up packages. Thanks, Brian Morgan
RE: wine question
There is a tool/program that allows linux to read ntfs (and dos to read it too). I need to check around to find it again. I've never used it so I don't know how well it works. --Dano -Original Message- From: Rob Mahurin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 8:52 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: wine question On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 01:40:21PM +0100, Lars Steinke wrote: On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 10:48:25PM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, I have no idea how wine works, and I would like to have a try. But my windoze is running nt4, and the file system is NTFS, will wine support this?? Wine is a Windoze emulator for 16bit applications and I do not think you can use you Win NT installation as a basis for the emulator but I might be mistaken... I use wine occaisionally with an nt4 installation. The only problems that I've encountered are that several programs that are reported to work under wine do not. In general, I can run some small programs (freecell, minesweeper :) but larger, useful programs such as Wordperfect (7) fail. There is an option -winver nt4 or something like that once you get it up and running, but it hasn't worked any miracles for me. Also, you must be able to access your windoze partition to run wine; mine is vfat, so I'm okay, but I was under the impression that NTFS was unreadable to Linux and that this is the source of many pains in many butts. Check out www.wineHQ.com for information. why, what a phenomenal idea. I think I'll do that myself. Rob -- Spouse, n.: Someone who'll stand by you through all the trouble you wouldn't have had if you'd stayed single. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: wine question
Rob Mahurin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, you must be able to access your windoze partition to run wine; mine is vfat, so I'm okay, but I was under the impression that NTFS was unreadable to Linux and that this is the source of many pains in many butts. 2.2.1 can definitely read NTFS, and I thought 2.0.36 could too. Later, Dale -- +- pgp key available --+ | Dale E. Martin | Clifton Labs, Inc. | Senior Computer Engineer| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]|http://www.clifton-labs.com | +--+
Re: Matshita CR-585 module?
Quoting Eliezer Figueroa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a machine with an ATAPI CD-ROM the MATSHITA CR-585. Does any body know wich should I use in order to support it and then wich device in /dev will represent it. This is a totally standard drive, so it's /dev/hdx where x is a primary master, b primary slave, c secondary master, d secondary slave. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: netscape library dependencies?
Hi, I went ahead and got the newer version. I installed it and it seems to be working now. it's at... ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.5/english/unix/unsupportedlinux20 glibc/complete install/ and then you're in the dir. with the newer version and instructions. Good luck! Chris Ryan wrote: Ed Cogburn wrote: Chris Ryan wrote: Hi, Further to this problem: I assumed that netscape is libc5 only, and There is a libc6 version of NS Communicator on ftp.netscape.com. As you go deeper in the path, select the 'unsupported' branch when you come to it. The libc6 based Communicator tarballs have 'glibc2' in their name (glibc2=libc6). redirected library loads to /usr/lib/libc5-compat (using LD_LIBRARY_PATH). This found the libc5 versions of most libraries, and I haven't found LD_LIBRARY_PATH necessary, at least it wasn't necessary for wp8 (also libc5 based). Just make sure the libc5-compat paths are in /etc/ld.so.conf, and you've updated things with 'ldconfig'. the libg++.so.27 and libstdc++.so.27 that are ONLY in the libc5 directory. But this showed that a library libXpm.so.4 was not found. This appears to be only in the libc6 set. This is very confusing. It appears that netscape uses both libc5 libraries (libg++.so.27 and libstdc++.so.27) as well as libc6 ones (eg. libXpm.so.4). But this is unlikely/impossible, as far as I can see. So, is there a libc5 version of libXpm.so.4 somewhere? Cheers, Chris. It is confusing, alas. What you stumbled on is the fact that NS Communicator (or are you using the limited 'navigator' version?) is built against both libc6 and *X Window* libs. The problem is the X libs NS wants *themselves* have to be built under libc5. So the libs in usr/lib/libc5-compat/ are mainly X libs that are needed for this reason. The libc5 lib itself is in /lib/. The Xpm lib you're looking for is a libc5-built X Window lib. So to get NS working, you need 'libc5', 'xlib6', and 'xpm4.7' from the 'oldlibs' section as displayed in dselect. At the moment I can't remember if the C++ libs are important. I *think* the old libc5 versions of NS can use the current ones. On the other hand I have an older version of libstdc++ installed (oldlibs section), and I don't know why. -- Ed C. Thanks for this Ed. I'm new to Linux, and so there's alot of info in your message here to think about... But I'm still unclear on a couple of things: 1. I got NS Communicator (not just the base nav as I implied) by following the www download links on NS home page. As you say, this appears to be libc5. 2. I have NS working now by installing xpm4.7 (libc5 version of libXpm.so.4 from /oldlibs) and by using LD_LIBRARY_PATH assigned to /usr/lib/libc5-compat. (I now have a script linked from /usr/lib that uses LD_LIBRARY_PATH.) 3. I worry about having both /usr/lib/libc5-compat and X11 libs both in a search list (this I assume is what /etc/ld/so/conf is - I look in a moment...). This is because both /usr/lib/libc5-compat and /usr/X11R6/lib both have identical library link names for many libraries that NS uses. You can test this by using ldd and in turn making the load path look in each directory first. NS finds the libraries in both areas. On a search path list, it will just use the ones it finds first, irrespective of whether they are libc5 or libc6. Is this not so? Cheers, Chris. -- +-+ | Dr. Chris Ryan | | CSIRO Exploration and Mining email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | 51 Delhi Road (PO box 136) phone: +61-2-9490 8673| | North Ryde NSW 2113fax: +61-2-9490 8909| | Australia. | | | | WWW (Cu-Au group): http://www.syd.dem.csiro.au/research/hydrothermal/ | | WWW (Proton Probe):| | http://www.syd.dem.csiro.au/research/hydrothermal/chris/PM_main.html | | WWW (Mantle Petrology group): http://www.syd.dem.csiro.au/research/mantle/ | | WWW (Me): http://www.syd.dem.csiro.au/unrestricted/people/RyanChris/ | | | +-+ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: wine question
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 13:40 +0100, Lars Steinke wrote: On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 10:48:25PM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, I have no idea how wine works, and I would like to have a try. But my windoze is running nt4, and the file system is NTFS, will wine support this?? Wine is a Windoze emulator for 16bit applications and I do not think you can use you Win NT installation as a basis for the emulator but I might be mistaken... Check out www.wineHQ.com for information. I hevn't actually tried wine yet myself (not until my new employer pays for an ISDN connection ;), but it does run 32-bit apps (including games such as unreal and even more amazing the n64 emu at 8% faster than win95 does). But going to winhq.com is the best bet. Cheers Dave -- Dave Swegen | Debian 2.0 on Linux i386 2.1.125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP key available on request [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation --
Re: Why use xterm-debian?
Quoting Björn Elwhagen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I've been annoyed for a long time now with the fact that Debian uses xterm-debian as the TERM-variable. It can't surve any purpose for all i know, if the purpose isn't to be as incompatible with other *IX standards. Why not only use xterm-color instead? [snip] I don't know why they have started using this standard - but i sure think it sucks. If anyone could give me a correct answer to WHY i would be very grateful. Perhaps point me to some old discussion about it. Apart from the technical reference given by someone else, I must just point out that no amount of guided fiddling would get my xterm to display a telnet session to SunOS5 correctly. With xterm-debian, I just copied /etc/terminfo to .terminfo in my SunOS5 home directory and everything works perfectly. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: off topic - Assembler using GCC
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, David Wright wrote: I don't think it would be sufficient to be root. AIUI, when any non-kernel process is running, its privilege level is set so it can't do any I/O etc. itself. The root setuid programs in Linux on Intel x86 may perform I/O, however they may not use interrupts. (This is the way how the user space drivers work). Wojtek Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Goodbye, people!
Hi kaynjay, you wrote on: 02 Feb 99 at 20:11 (received 03.02.99) about : _Re: Goodbye, people!_ will get there. What I do have is a system that doesn't crash every five seconds, it is fast and very configurable I guess what I'm trying to say is if I can work with this O/S anyone can. It just takes time. Use Windows but keep plucking away at Linux:) Give yourself something to compare Windows to. I have to agree with you, Kent. My primary system is still OS/2 (note the mailer) but I am slowly moving into Linux/Debian. I have far less time than I'd like to spend with it, but I can see the benefits down the road. Now if I can only get X up to a state my wife would find palatable ... :) Same here, Windows NT user, *but* already using a UUCP provider for my emails and news (CrossPoint). At first, I messed up the system about each and every day. Formatted the HD about 12 to 15 times and re-installed Linux (had /etc/* saved) :-) Finally compiled my custom-Kernel with soundblaster support and it even worked! Boy, was I proud! Managed to install netscape finally, set up a PPP provider, can surf the WWW. All went surprisingly smooth (thanks to pppconfig). Then I became cocky, just wanted to switch to Linux with UUCP. Installed sendmail, procmail, pine and failed miserably. Gosh, I really hate sendmail-config, that's a real pain in the you-know-what. Then switched to exim (instead of sendmail), that worked better, I received email, got confident again, but configuring a mailer to UUCP is more work than I thought. Now I'm waiting for some good prince to come along and help me with that :-) (already posted the question exim and uucp here today). But I'm stuck with Linux now and I'm really working to make it my *only* OS, no matter what cryptic configs I may have to run. Kind regards Frederick
Re: more dumb WordPerfect ???s
I think that the WP install script cleans up after itself when it's done; I had to abort my first install and then had to re-unzip and -untar all the installation files i had downloaded. Try that. Rob On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 08:34:12AM -0600, Brian Morgan wrote: Since I was having so much trouble finding the xwp executable (not in /usr/local/wp8/wpbin directory -- see previous posts), I removed the wp8 directory, and all its subordinants. I'm now trying to re-run the Runme script, but I get an error: nothing new to install. How do I get around this so I can run the Runme script again? -- How do you explain school to a higher intelligence? -- Elliot, E.T.
Re: [debian] debian.org gone?
In a message dated 2/4/99 2:53:12 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] imaging.com writes: I'm having troubles contacting www.debian.org for the last few days. Is anything wrong with the server? It's been working fine for me... I've seen the same problems - I've gotten onto the website about 1 of 10 times I've tried over the past two or three days. This is my traceroute coming out of my Win95 box at the office: - C:\WINDOWStracert 209.81.8.242 Tracing route to va.debian.org [209.81.8.242] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 255 ms 105 ms 110 ms keyring [199.221.35.2] 2 keyring [199.221.35.2] reports: Destination host unreachable. Trace complete. C:\WINDOWStracert www.debian.org Tracing route to www.debian.org [209.81.8.242] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 104 ms 103 ms 118 ms keyring [199.221.35.2] 2 keyring [199.221.35.2] reports: Destination host unreachable. Trace complete. -Jay
Re: dpkg question
In a message dated 2/4/99 4:52:10 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I know a command, for example, compress, is it possible to use dpkg to find out which package is this command belongs to?? And this package may not be installed on the system. Search the Contents-i386.gz file using grep. -Jay
mgetty: AutoPPP Failure
Hello Debianites, I am struggling to get the AutoPPP feature of mgetty to work. I want to connect two Debian Maschines running (mostly) Hamm. In /etc/mgetty/login.config of the PPP-Server maschine I have tested the following lines by uncommenting each in turn: #/AutoPPP/ - a_ppp /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login #/AutoPPP/ - @ /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap -pap login /AutoPPP/ - @ /usr/sbin/pppd auth login +pap -chap modem crtscts proxya rp lock /etc/ppp/pap-secrets is set up to include: # Every regular user can use PPP and has to use passwords from /etc/passwd # Tested both: #* fliwatut * 192.168.0.1 * And the options file for the modem is /etc/ppp/options.ttyS0 includes: # local-ip:remote-ip #fliwatut.scifi.com:fliwatut.scifi.com-s0 198.162.0.1:198.162.0.50 to give the incoming connection an IP number THE PROBLEM: I tested this with a user called eric with password secret (just kidding, in fact it was another PW). He called me (HOST: fliwatut) from his debian maschine and mgetty took the call. His setup was done with pppconfig and uses a simple PAP-authentification. But a ppp connection could not be made. The reason showed in the ppp.log file like this: Feb 4 14:39:20 fliwatut pppd[1483]: pppd 2.3.5 started by /AutoPPP/, uid 0 Feb 4 14:39:20 fliwatut pppd[1483]: Using interface ppp0 Feb 4 14:39:20 fliwatut pppd[1483]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS0 Feb 4 14:39:20 fliwatut pppd[1483]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 au th pap magic 0xa040e69d pcomp accomp] [...] Feb 4 14:39:23 fliwatut pppd[1483]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xa040e69d] Feb 4 14:39:23 fliwatut pppd[1483]: rcvd [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user=eric passwo rd=secret] Feb 4 14:39:23 fliwatut pppd[1483]: PAP authentication failure for eric Feb 4 14:39:23 fliwatut pppd[1483]: sent [PAP AuthNak id=0x1 Login incorrect] Feb 4 14:39:23 fliwatut pppd[1483]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 Authentication fa iled] Feb 4 14:39:23 fliwatut pppd[1483]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0xdf6] Feb 4 14:39:23 fliwatut pppd[1483]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2] Feb 4 14:39:23 fliwatut pppd[1483]: Connection terminated. Feb 4 14:39:23 fliwatut pppd[1483]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Feb 4 14:39:23 fliwatut pppd[1483]: Exit. The accompanying mgetty logfile has: 02/04 14:39:18 yS0 getlogname (FIDO AUTO_PPP), read:~[ff]}#[c0]! 02/04 14:39:20 yS0 input finished with '\r', setting ICRNL ONLCR 02/04 14:39:20 yS0 tio_get_rs232_lines: status: RTS CTS DSR DTR DCD 02/04 14:39:20 yS0login: use login config file /etc/mgetty/login.config 02/04 14:39:20 yS0 match: user='/AutoPPP/', key='' 02/04 14:39:20 yS0 match: user='/AutoPPP/', key='' 02/04 14:39:20 yS0 match: user='/AutoPPP/', key='/AutoPPP/'*** hit! 02/04 14:39:20 yS0 login: utmp entry: /AutoPPP/ 02/04 14:39:20 yS0looking for utmp entry... (my PID: 1483) 02/04 14:39:20 yS0 utmp + wtmp entry made 02/04 14:39:20 yS0 calling login: cmd='/usr/sbin/pppd', argv[]='pppd auth logi n +pap -chap modem crtscts proxyarp lock' 02/04 14:39:20 # data dev=ttyS0, pid=1483, caller='none', conn='33600/LAPM/V 42BIS', name='', cmd='/usr/sbin/pppd', user='/AutoPPP/' 02/04 14:39:20 yS0 setenv: 'CALLER_ID=none' 02/04 14:39:20 yS0 setenv: 'CONNECT=33600/LAPM/V42BIS' Obviously pppd got started but athentification failed. I even added user eric to group dip and dialout, just in case. But what now? Did anybody here successfully set up a ppp server with mgetty? Any tips where to look for mistakes? Thank you very much in advance, -- ____ Frank Barknecht __ __ trip\ \ / /wire __ / __// __ /__/ __// // __ \ \/ / __ \\ ___\ / / / / / / / // // /\ \\ ___\\ \ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_//_// / \ \\_\\_\ /_/\_\
Re: off topic - Assembler using GCC
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 12:51:28PM +0800, ivan wrote: Mmmh. What do you need this for? Primarily learning but I would like a few very simple highly optimised graphics routines for my machine. Line, circle, box and fill for e.g. Well, if you don't need them for some very special purpose, they would be wasted code, in the sense that nobody could make use of it (not general enough, not addressing to much people etc). However, for learning purpose everything is legitim and useful. I was considering this until I read the comments of the current (?) svgalib maintainer in which he said that he had tried to contribute ideas/discussion/code(?) and got the impression that if he didn't agree with *everything* that was said done by the ggi team then he wasn't really that welcome. Note that this was written _years_ ago (I read the text 1996). I am not sure if it is still correct. Also, note that sometimes people with different goals simply can't work together, this is not necessarily bad. ggi is used in Berlin today, and seems to be very interesting. I have no comment on this as I do not know the full circumstances but a maintainer making statements like that was enough to put me off ggi. Mmh. Can I say more than go and look for yourself? You could also write your own (dirty!) kernel device driver module which allows you to access hardware directly. This is not too hard. Thanks - I'm thinking about this now. Are there any references other than the kernel hackers guide on writing drivers ? The khg wasn't clear enough for a bear of little brain such as I. I wrote a very simple stupid module in a weekends time, it isn't to hard. Once you have the framework, you can allocate IRQ's and ioports. There is lots of example code in the kernel, it's really useful to work from examples. Have Fun, Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
