Re: Estou preparando uma revista

1999-05-25 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Oi Lalo,
teve um cara que traduziu as man-pages do dpkg e dselect, mas perdeu...
Disse que tinha mandado para voce. Voce ainda tem?
Estou fazendo a homepage para colocar como referencia da traducao da Debian
para o portugues. Vai ficar no LinuxClub e a lista tambem pode ficar la...
Espere mais no maximo uma semana que estara tudo pronto...
Parece que todo mundo ta perdendo o hd. :(
Abracos,PH
Lalo Martins wrote:

 Gente, que mancada, eu perdi meu HD e estou acessando do
 trabalho, com probleminhas de configuração eu acabei ficando
 duas semanas sem ler essa lista :-)

 On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 01:24:52PM -0300, Thiago Jung Bauermann wrote:
 
  Sim, acho q esses modos de coordenacao sao suficientes. A pagina teria
  mais a funcao de atrair colaboradores, postar FAQs, etc, e a lista
  seria para a coordenacao do projeto.
 
  Existe algum espaco q possa ser usado para sediar a pagina e a lista?

 A página provavelmente deveria estar em algum outro lugar. A
 lista deveria, é claro, ficar em @lists.debian.org - com a mesma
 facilidade que eu criei essa, podemos criar
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (é exatamente por isso que
 essa lista chama debian-USER-portuguese) :-)

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Perl

1999-05-25 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld

Alguém sabe onde eu posso conseguir um tutorial sobre perl em  modo grafico??
Eu tenho trabalhado com perl em modo caractere há  algum tempo e ultimamente 
estou aprendendo TK-TLC para tentar criar uma interface no Xfree pros meus 
programas
Agradeço se alguém souber alguma coisa.



   Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld

Nós gatos já nascemos pobres, porém já nascemos livres
 Senhor, senhora ou senhoria, felino não reconhecerá


Re: Perl

1999-05-25 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Tem um pacote na Debian chamado perl-tk. Acho que tem alguma
documentacao la (deve ter o pacote perl-tk-doc tambem).
Boa programacao,PH
Quoting Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 Alguém sabe onde eu posso conseguir um tutorial sobre perl em  modo grafico?? 
 Eu tenho trabalhado com perl em modo caractere há  algum tempo e ultimamente 
 estou aprendendo TK-TLC para tentar criar uma interface no Xfree pros meus 
 programas 
 Agradeço se alguém souber alguma coisa.
 
 
 
Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld 
 
 Nós gatos já nascemos pobres, porém já nascemos livres
  Senhor, senhora ou senhoria, felino não reconhecerá


Re: Perl

1999-05-25 Thread Lalo Martins
On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 10:41:58AM -0300, Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld wrote:
 
 Alguém sabe onde eu posso conseguir um tutorial sobre perl em  modo grafico?? 
 Eu tenho trabalhado com perl em modo caractere há  algum tempo e ultimamente 
 estou aprendendo TK-TLC para tentar criar uma interface no Xfree pros meus 
 programas 
 Agradeço se alguém souber alguma coisa.

O Paulo mencionou Perl-Tk, existe tb Perl-GTK (ou vice-versa).
Pessoalmente eu acho Tk horrível :-)

Agora, se alguém tiver um tutorial de Perl _BOM_, eu estou
precisando de material de referência pra um curso. Meses atrás
eu vi a primeira parte de um, mas nunca mais vi a continuação...

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Re: Estou preparando uma revista

1999-05-25 Thread Lalo Martins
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 10:55:37PM -0300, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira 
wrote:
 Oi Lalo,
 teve um cara que traduziu as man-pages do dpkg e dselect, mas perdeu...
 Disse que tinha mandado para voce. Voce ainda tem?

Tenho naum :-((( tá lá no HD, e ele ainda tem conserto
teoricamente, então talvez no futuro eu até volte a ter, mas no
momento não.

 Estou fazendo a homepage para colocar como referencia da traducao da 
 Debian
 para o portugues. Vai ficar no LinuxClub e a lista tambem pode ficar la...

A questão é que eu acho que o `correto' seria colocar a lista em
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - alguém não concorda?

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RE: how to make modem silent?

1999-05-25 Thread Patrick Kirk
Usually ATM0 ie M Zero will bo it.  The Linux default is ATZ which turns
sound back on with a lot of modems bu doing a soft reset.

Hope this helps.

Patrick


 -Original Message-
 From: Karen Hu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, 24 May 1999 19:07
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: how to make modem silent?


 Is there a way will make pon dial my modem silently?
 I'm still using Hamm (version 2.0).

 Thanks,

 (Note: I'm not on debian-user@, so plz include this address in your
 msg).

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XF86Setup incorrectly updates /etc/X11/XF86Config

1999-05-25 Thread Arcady Genkin
Hi all!

I have this weird behavior of XF86Setup. I try to change the mouse
settings to 4 buttons and MouseManPlusPS/2 instead of 3 buttons
and PS/2. I go into the graphical mode, and change all the necessary 
settings. Then I click Done, and so on, and it exits normally saying
that /etc/X11/XF86Config was written and the old one was renamed into
XF86Setup.bak.

Ok, I go into shell, and see by the time-stamp that the file indeed
has been updated. But inside, the Pointer sectino I invariablly see

Section Pointer
   ProtocolPS/2
   Device  /dev/mouse
   BaudRate1200
   Emulate3Timeout 50
   Resolution  200
EndSection

After I edit it by hand to look like this:

Section Pointer
   ProtocolMouseManPlusPS/2
   Device  /dev/mouse
   Buttons 4
   Resolution  200
EndSection

everything works. But if I rerun XF86Setup, and confirm that I want to 
use my existing file as a default, then change some parameters (not
even in the Mouse section; BTW the mouse info shows correctly in
there at this point), then save the changes, my XF86Config's pointer 
sections reverts to the wrong settings.

I tried deleting the file altogether thinking that maybe it was
corrupt, then new file is created, and the same behavior is observed.

Any ideas, anyone? I'm getting sick of editing it by hand every time
(I'm experimenting with keyboard settings currently, and run XF86Setup 
often).

TIA!
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RE: how to make modem silent?

1999-05-25 Thread Pollywog

On 24-May-99 Karen Hu wrote:
 Is there a way will make pon dial my modem silently?
 I'm still using Hamm (version 2.0).

In my connect script, I added M0 to my AT string to make the modem quiet:

ATF2C1D2K3M0 (last character is a zero)

This is in my /etc/diald/connect script, but you can do this with your ppp
script too.

--
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Unable to compile kernel 2.2.5 w/sound module

1999-05-25 Thread jean-Yves BARBIER
Hi all,

I try to compile a 2.2.5 kernel (was up to 2.2.7 :-(( ) to make my SG live! work
under Linux with the object module from (mis)creative.
Each time I do 'make-kpkg kernel_image' (or make clean, dep, bzImage) I have
this error message:

# drivers/char/char.a(msp3400.o): In function `msp3400c_init':
# msp3400.o(.text+0x1d02): undefined reference to `register_send_mixer'
# make[1]: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
# make[1]: Leaving directory `usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.5'
# make: *** [build] Error 2

Arrrghh ([EMAIL PROTECTED] creative!), pls help me to get this kernel to compile
correctly.
JY
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Re: laptop netconfig

1999-05-25 Thread Lawrence Walton
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 02:07:19PM -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
 I don't know if anyone's come up with a slick way to do this. I too would 
 like to have such a thing at my disposal. You might be able to do something 
 like this by just running dhcp and then checking to see if dhcp succeeded in 
 getting an address and starting diald if it didn't.
 
 Good luck,
 
 Justin Hagemeier wrote:
 
  I have a laptop with three possible network configurations that I would 
  like to use.
  1. Ethernet 10 Mbps DHCP-sv
  2. PPP daild
  3. None at all
  is there any suggestions on tools for configuration techniques for this 
  kind of setup. It looks as if I could do it if one of the init.d scripts 
  sniffed out the PCMCIA to see if there where activity, then if there was 
  not it would start daild instead of DHCP.  I have no idea where to begin on 
  such a thing though.  Any thoughts?
  Thanks in advance,
  Justin
 
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Well I sort of do this allready I have a laptop that has the Potato distro on 
it, I use both ethernet and ppp,
I am using the DHCP client in potato and it works great; if there is no 
ethernet connection, then no IP is assigned
to the eth0 interface, essentially no route. I just use PPP normaly.
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Re: help: clock resets on reboot

1999-05-25 Thread John Foster
Rob Mahurin wrote:
 
 My clock resets when I reboot, pretty much at random.  Doesn't matter how long
 it's been off; when I check in the CMOS before it boots, it's still right.  
 But
 sometime between when lilo loads and I get a login prompt, it sets, pretty 
 much
 at random.  date and hwclock agree, but they're wrong.  Sometimes it's back 
 half
 an hour; sometimes it's a couple of hours; once it went to march 1997.  Never
 goes forward.  This never happened before a couple of weeks ago.  I have no
 idea.  Does anybody?
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hold enough power to keep the hardware clock set to the correct time,
when the system is powered off. It appears that your battery is
degrading and may need to be replaced. That may be a matter of simply
pluging in a new one or it may require surgery on the board. Consult you
user manual for the Motherboard or the systems builders tech support.
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RE: linuxconf

1999-05-25 Thread Person, Roderick
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental

I believe the differences is in the stablity and that the are either less
stable. Although, I never had a problem with the linuxconf packages ...
except one package linuxconf-boot which even warns you on installation that
it can hose your system, so I never used it. But the X package and the rest
seemed to work fine!

Rod...

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 Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 3:11 PM
 To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject:  Re: linuxconf
 
 
 Person, Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  There is a linuxconf in the debian experimental archives.
 
 Where can I get experimental packages?
 
 Are they even more unstable than packages from unstable/potato?
 
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Re: [solved] g2player (fwd)

1999-05-25 Thread Joey Hess
scratch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've solved the lib bugs by installing the stdlibc++-2.8 package. (I only
 had the stdlibc++-2.9 package installed).
 
 Works fine now. If only I knew how to install it properly on my Debian
 system. The way I did it now, I used Alien to convert the .rpm from
 real.com to a .deb.

The correct way to install it is to use the realplayer.deb in unstable.

 Of course this is not how it should be, as, for
 example, Netscape plugin support isn't there. 

That's not your fault, the alpha doesn't have netscape plugin support.

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How to disable enlightenment pager (for use w. GNOME)?

1999-05-25 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Hi,

I tried to install enlightenment together with GNOME (all the newest
debs), but it insists on installing its own pager, which can't be put
off by the config program. How can this be done?

Greetings,
joachim


Re: Installing from source

1999-05-25 Thread Ingo Hohmann
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 10:44:49AM -0500, Brad wrote:
 On Mon, 24 May 1999, Otgonbayar Uuye wrote:
 
  1. How am I supposed to install programs from tarball source code? I can 
  untar and compile them,
  but then the debian package system doesn't recognize it. 
  
  For instance I have downloaded qt-1.44.tar.gz, compiled and installed it. 
  Then qt installs itself in
  /usr/local which violates the debian policy as I understand. KDE does the 
  same thing. As my
  system doesn't recognize them, it wouldn't configure it properly. Also how 
  do I uninstall them  then?   

If you use source from the debian packages, just cd into the source directory
and run 

debian/rules binary

that should compile and build a *.deb, that may be installed with dpkg.

Other source-codes can be debianized using deb-make, maybe you have to
fine-tune it a bit.


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missing ldd

1999-05-25 Thread Ingo Hohmann
When I run 

debian/rules binary

in the gnurobots source dir, it exits with:

dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: cannot exec ldd: No such file or directory
dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: ldd on `debian/tmp/usr/games/grobots' gave error exit 
status 2
dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code
make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1

As ldd seems not to be installed, which package provides it?


thanks in advance

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Installing libc6_2.1.1-7 on hamm

1999-05-25 Thread Johann Spies at Johann
I have a mixed system with a hamm base and slink and potato packages.  I
want to try out a cd writer (HP 7200i) and to do that want to install a
new version of cdrecord as hamm's version does not support the drive.

cdrecord depends on libc6  2.1.

When I try to install libc6 the following happens.  

apt-get -f install libc6
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.0.7t-1) but 2.1.1-7 is installed
  libc6: Conflicts: timezones but 2.0.7t-1 is installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.

As far as I can see libc6-2.1.1-7 replaces libc6-dev.  Why does apt not
remove the old libc6-dev and install the package?

I am only beginning to use apt and I am not sure whether I must go backp
to dpkg -i to install what I want to install. Would that be dangerous in
this situation?

Johann

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getting kde

1999-05-25 Thread Chris Hoover
does anyone know of a http site that I can get debian debs of kde 1.1.1 from?

thanks,

chris


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Re: List archives? was: Re: fetchmail problems

1999-05-25 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 24 May, Lazarus Long wrote about List archives? was: Re: fetchmail 
problems
 On Thursday, May 20, 1999 at 11:17:01 -0500, Matt Garman wrote:
   Subject: Re: fetchmail problems
   Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   X-UIDL: 685403a47c42011da0baee50b375ebfe
   
   Also, I read through the fetchmail FAQ, and searched the debian-user
   list archives.
 
 How did you search the archives?  Do you have a working URL for this
 handy?  I just filed a bug against www.debian.org since the link from
 there appears to be broken recently.  Is there another I overlooked?
 

The link off of the main page worked for me.  The url is
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/

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cp: /MS/test.txt: Operation not permitted when copying to a vfat partition ?

1999-05-25 Thread shaul
Can you tell what cp complains about ?

[01:54:40 shaul]$ ls -l t*
-rw-rw-r--   1 shaulshaul   0 May 24 01:34 test.txt
[01:54:54 shaul]$ ls -l /MS/t*
ls: /MS/t*: No such file or directory

Now trying to copy test.txt to the vfat partition:

[01:55:13 shaul]$ cp -v test.txt /MS/
test.txt - /MS/test.txt
cp: /MS/test.txt: Operation not permitted
[01:55:23 shaul]$ ls -l /MS/t*
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root dos 0 May 24 01:55 /MS/test.txt

Some more info:

[01:55:50 shaul]$ mount | grep /MS 
/dev/hda1 on /MS type vfat (rw,umask=002,uid=0,gid=35)
[01:56:02 shaul]$ grep /MS /etc/fstab
/dev/hda1   /MS vfat   defaults,noauto,umask=002,uid=0,gid=
35  0   0

[01:57:49 shaul]$ grep dos /etc/group
dos:x:35:dos,shaul


Thank you.






Re: Installing Base System from Floppies

1999-05-25 Thread Kent West
Xela Wren wrote:
 
 I am trying to install the latest stable Debian on a Dell 486DX and am 
 running into trouble installing teh base system.  Having tried it with FOUR 
 different sets of install floppies (no CD, no network connection, no other 
 machine nearby) I always get the same message when it finishes copying the 7 
 install disks and begins extracting the base2_1.tgz file:  Error extracting 
 file.
 
 The REALLY strange thing is that when I try to install the Base System again 
 it will stop in between disks 6  7 (once between 5  6 and once between 4  
 5) after having copied the whole disk with no problem and will display an 
 error somtehing to the effect of, Error outputting file: Success.  THis 
 happens whenever I try to install the Base System again without starting the 
 installation from scratch.
 
 Any ideas?  Thanks for helping the newbie in advance.

It's been a while, but isn't the base2_1.tgz file the large
all-floppy-images-in-one file? The one that you'd download to a hard
drive to do an install from an existing hard drive partition? I don't
know if this has any relevance to your situation, but it MIGHT be a
clue.


Re: Debian installation - list of things that make it hard

1999-05-25 Thread Steve McIntyre
Christensen writes:
A final note on this thread--I tried re-installing Debian because during
the first installation I remembered seeing messages about not being able
to find the package.cd files.  It turned out that when I used the scan
option it found the ones for main and contrib, but not the ones for
non-free, non-US, or local.  (So I guess they're optional, and
maybe available only from a download???)  And it never prompted me to
insert the second disk.  When I tried to switch disks the CD drawer
wouldn't open.  (This has never happened before.  I guess the
installation procedure ties up the device somehow?)

Anyway, I bought the CD's from Cheapbytes.  They're a set of four:  two
binary and two source.  The two binary CD's seem to be almost duplicates
of each other.  (#1 has tools, #2 has FAQ's, plus other seemingly minor
differences.)  The Linux that I installed works OK (from my extremely
limited perspective as a total newcomer!).  So I'm wondering:  what's
the reason for that second disk?  (When I installed I tried both
options:  install from a CD or from a CD set.  Neither prompted for a
second CD.)

I'll try to cover most of your questions here. Please ask if I miss
anything...

The two binary CDs are _very_ different in terms of the packages they
contain, but by necessity they are laid out in a similar fashion. The
contents are arranged so that most of the stuff most people will need is
on CD#1. In fact, all of the suggested tasks/profiles in the installation
setup rely only on packages on CD#1. The packages on CD#2 are the less
commonly-used ones, meaning that some users may never need it. 

The non-US and non-free sections are not available on official Debian CDs
due to their licensing problems, but you may be able to find people who
will sell you CD containing them. and local is a space left for any
_local_ Debian packages that a user may have downloaded/built themselves. 

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Re: how to make modem silent?

1999-05-25 Thread David B.Teague

On Mon, 24 May 1999, Karen Hu wrote:
 
 Is there a way will make pon dial my modem silently?
 I'm still using Hamm (version 2.0).

 (Note: I'm not on debian-user@, so plz include this address in your
 msg).

Karen,

I am pleased try to help you. 

You will find that the folk on this list are more than willing to
help you. This help, in addition to the technological excellence
are reasons why I am an adherent to Debian Distribution. 

Recently, on this list, this question was asked and answered.  I
have added a little to the speaker volume answer. This mailing
list is archived at http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/ Please
read it for it is a gold-mine! There is even a search engine, so
you don't have to read a 1000 messages to find an answer.


To send these commands to your modem, use a terminal program such
as minicom or Kermit and connect to the modem.

To set speaker to always off, issue the command

 atm0

I would place this command in the chatscript:

Bilbo:/etc/chatscripts# cat provider
ABORTBUSY
ABORTNO CARRIER
ABORTVOICE
ABORTNO DIALTONE
   ATm0   # silence modem
   ATDTXXX# xxx is your isp phone no.
ogin albertw# your isp login id
word \qmye_passswordd   # your password for you isp
ption:   W  # what you tell your isp..;


CAVEAT: I have NOT TESTED THIS, since I am not at a machine where
I can dial my ISP to confirm that this is correct. I have
confidene that this will work. However, you must test this.

I have appended a message describing how to get more of the
commands your modem provides.

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (Hope this qualifies.)


From my (limited) archive:

 What command tells a modem to turn the sound off? 

CAVEAT: These are for my USR modem, and may not be exactly right
for another Hayes compatible modem. See the commands listed below
to get the full list of commands for your modem if these don't
work as I advertise.

atm0  speaker always off
atm1  speaker on until CD is asserted
atm2  speaker always on
atm3  off during dialing, and on until carrier

atl0  speaker volume lowest
at1l  speaker volume low volume
atl2  speaker volume medium 
atl3  speaker volume loud


 Where is there a list of the hayes/at modem commands?

Your modem has this info built into it.  Open up a terminal
program, such as minicom, that is configured to use your modem
device and enter the folloowing AT commands. 

list all commands
at$  
list all  commands
at$  
list all dial commands
atd$   
list all S register commands
ats$   






Re: how to make modem silent?

1999-05-25 Thread Kent West
Karen Hu wrote:
 
 Is there a way will make pon dial my modem silently?
 I'm still using Hamm (version 2.0).
 
 Thanks,
 
 (Note: I'm not on debian-user@, so plz include this address in your
 msg).
 
 -Ping
 
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In /etc/chatscripts/provider (or whatever your provider file is
named), add a line OK ATM0 (that's a zero, not a letter O) just
before the dial command, like so:

snippit of provider file
ABORT NO DIALTONE 
ABORT NO ANSWER
 ATZ
OK ATM0
OK ATDT555-1234
CONNECT \d\c
end of snippit


NDN: Re: Debian applications - where to get them???

1999-05-25 Thread Post Office
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Re: Debian applications - where to get them???

1999-05-25 Thread Kent West
Nadarajah, Dinesh wrote:
 
 I am running into problems getting applications for Debian.
 
 1.  I wanted to get the Communicator 4.5 and so I checked the Debian
 archives. There is a listing for Communicator 4.5 but when I add up the file
 sizes, they don't match nowhere close to the Netscape Binary posting (of
 around 12MB). Are there any other files that I should be installing along
 with these (there are no other dependencies shown on the package listing)
 ???
 
 2.  I have seen posting on Real G2 player for Linux but I could not find
 it at www.real.com http://www.real.com . Is there a G2 player for Linux
 yet or is it still version 5.0?
 
 3.  I wanted to download x11amp (also called winamp in the Windows
 world) to play MP3 files but could not find it anywhere. Any suggestions on
 where I might be able to get a copy (preferably in .deb format)? (Any
 suggestions for a better player are also welcome :-)  ).
 
 Thanks.
 
 -D

Because of licensing issues, Debian doesn't distribute the actual
Netscape program; just the installer. You need to download Communicator
from Netscape's site, copy it to /tmp, then install the Netscape Debian
package (you might need to rename the downloaded file as per the
instructions during the install). This should get you going.


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1999-05-25 Thread Post Office
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2.1 Install halts

1999-05-25 Thread jvoris


I try to install from the hard drive after copying the required files to a
directory (or even the root drive) and when I get to the Section on installing
the modules the install halts and says that it failed to extract the Rescue
Disk.  I have given the applet all the paths to my Debian Archives which are on
the D: Drive (DOS) and I have even created a Linux Swap Partition.  Having
followed the direction in yopur installation guide I am at a loss as to how to
get any further.  Please reply.

Thanks,

James Voris
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One North Avenue
Burlington, MA 01803
Telephone: 781-685-5025
Fax: 781-685-5001
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Re: List archives? was: Re: fetchmail problems

1999-05-25 Thread Lazarus Long
On Monday, May 24, 1999 at 17:07:37 -0500, Brian Servis wrote:
  Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-UIDL: 750f5ce8b238693f85cd478f9c87c1f0

   How did you search the archives?  Do you have a working URL for this
   handy?  I just filed a bug against www.debian.org since the link from
   there appears to be broken recently.  Is there another I overlooked?

  The link off of the main page worked for me.  The url is
  http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/

Hmm, not any more.  Take a look at
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/38/38256.html
for further info.

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about Linux Books questions ?

1999-05-25 Thread Anderson
Hello, GNU/Debian Linux Org.


about Debian Books questions ?

Q1. O'reilly Corp have a book Running Linux, 2/e
   Can teach and help us know Debia/Linux structure and
   detail information ?
Q2.  GUN have make Debian system book plan ?
All publisher not better than your organization acknowledge.


Best Regards,
Anderson wrote. (GMT+8 Taipei)
 
Best Regards,
Anderson wrote. (GMT+8 Taipei)


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1999-05-25 Thread Post Office
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NDN(2): Re: Modem GM56PCI-L

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RE: how to make modem silent?

1999-05-25 Thread Clyde Wilson
And you can do atw to save it so atz won't reset it!


On Mon, 24 May 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote:

 Usually ATM0 ie M Zero will bo it.  The Linux default is ATZ which turns
 sound back on with a lot of modems bu doing a soft reset.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Patrick
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Karen Hu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, 24 May 1999 19:07
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: how to make modem silent?
 
 
  Is there a way will make pon dial my modem silently?
  I'm still using Hamm (version 2.0).
 
  Thanks,
 
  (Note: I'm not on debian-user@, so plz include this address in your
  msg).
 
  -Ping
 
 
 
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duplicate posts?

1999-05-25 Thread Pollywog
Is everyone else getting duplicate posts?

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Re: Netscape 3.

1999-05-25 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 FC == Fu-Dong Chiou [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

FC Can anyone tell me where I can find Netscape 3?  I remember older
FC versions of Netscape are stored in an archive, accessible via
FC browsers, but can't remember the URL now.  Thanks!

Check dpkg --print-avail netscape3

Ciao,
Martin


Re: postgresql installation trouble ...

1999-05-25 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 JM == Jon Marler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

JM The permissions on /dev/null by default are set to 0600 root root.
JM I set them to 0666 root root.  Problem solved.

This would be very strange.

When I create it with MAKEDEV, it is 

$ ls -l null
crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   1,   3 May 25 02:02 null

Do you have the c as first character? Maybe xour /dev/null was
overwritten.

Ciao,
Martin


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Some kde questions

1999-05-25 Thread Joel Keating


My kde is semi-working. My backspace key acts the same as a
delete key should. If i change some things in Xmod keymap it doesn't
work at all. Another thing is that I don't get color when i set backgrounds
that are .jpg or .gif images. Any help would be great.
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Re: how to spy out serial line communication?

1999-05-25 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
If you've got an extra PC I'd say the easiest would be to set up a linux box in 
the
middle and write a small program which would open up the two ports, one to the 
modem
and the other to the pc, and read data from both and write/log the data.

Ingo Hohmann wrote:

 Hi,

 I need to know the commands a windows based program
 sends to the modem. How is it possible to read what
 it's sending and receiving? (I'll start it under
 wine or dosemu/win311).

 thanks,

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Re: Debian applications - where to get them???

1999-05-25 Thread Brad
i run potato, so the packages i mention might not be available for slink.
You could always try recompiling from source (if available)

On Mon, 24 May 1999, Nadarajah, Dinesh wrote:

 I am running into problems getting applications for Debian.
 
 1.I wanted to get the Communicator 4.5 and so I checked the Debian
 archives. There is a listing for Communicator 4.5 but when I add up the file
 sizes, they don't match nowhere close to the Netscape Binary posting (of
 around 12MB). Are there any other files that I should be installing along
 with these (there are no other dependencies shown on the package listing)
 ???

There's two ways to do it. One way is to get the tarball from netscape.com
and use the installer package (netscape4). The other way is to install the
10 or so deb packages that make for a full install.
communicator-base-4x
communicator-nethelp-4x
communicator-[sd]motif-4x
communicator-spellchk-4x
navigator-base-4x
navigator-[sd]motif-4x
netscape-base-4x
netscape-java-4x
netscape-[sd]motif-4x
netscape-base-4

i believe that the -[sd]motif-4x packages depend on all the other
necessary ones...

 2.I have seen posting on Real G2 player for Linux but I could not find
 it at www.real.com http://www.real.com . Is there a G2 player for Linux
 yet or is it still version 5.0?

There's an alpha version, but it seems to work pretty good. i've only had
two problems so far: it refuses to open files with a '#' in the name, and
it crashes reliably on certain ra files.

There's an installer package, realplayer. When you try to install it, it
tells you where to download the package from (and to put it in /tmp when
you've gotten it). Hang on a sec, i'll look it up
http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html

 3.I wanted to download x11amp (also called winamp in the Windows
 world)

Actually, it's not also called. They're different programs, they just
look the same. x11amp is being designed with winamp's gui in mind

 to play MP3 files but could not find it anywhere. Any suggestions on
 where I might be able to get a copy (preferably in .deb format)? (Any
 suggestions for a better player are also welcome :-)  ).

There's a package, appropriately named x11amp. If it's not available in
slink, you can get the source from Debian. Or, you could go straight to
www.x11amp.org and get the source from there.

As for other players, look through the sound section of the Debian
archives. There're quite a few in there. i don't know the merits of any of
them, i use x11amp for X and amp for console if i feel the need for a song
without wanting to start X.


Can Netscape be configured thusly?

1999-05-25 Thread Kent West
Whenever I right-click in Netscape Navigator or Messenger to bring up
the pop-up menu, I have to hold the right-mouse button down as long as I
want to see the menu. Is there any way to configure Netscape so that the
menu stays up without holding the button until I click on a menu item or
outside of the menu? Holding the button is too Macintosh-ish for me.

Thanks.


Web site shuts down Netscape

1999-05-25 Thread Kent West
My cousin sent the following link to me:

http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Castle/7393/Police.html

Whenever I try to access it using Netscape 4.5 on a system using a 2.2.1
kernel, I start to connect to the site and then Netscape just quits; no
warning; no error messages, just bang! and it's gone. I can restart
Netscape, but if I try to access the site again, bang! gone again.

I was able to access it via lynx, and was able to tell that it's just a
humour/joke page, so it's not at all important, but I'm concerned that
simply accessing a web page can shut down Netscape. Do I have something
configured wrong, or is Netscape that flakey, or what?

Thanks for any info.


File Manager?

1999-05-25 Thread shadowze
After 2 days of reading I cant find the following. Keeping in mind Im a new
user;
1) Where is the default download path for Lynx so I can find files I have
downloaded.

2) Is there a default file manager that comes with the base or optional
install of Debian?
   I have tried to download Midnight commander from the packages but as #1
says I cant find the path. I have tried Emacs but is so slow to try to
browse the files.

I am going to go and browse the dselect listing one more time.

Please make sure I am cc'd as Im on the digest list and I would like to
make some progress tonight.

Thanks
Robert Black


Re: how to make modem silent?

1999-05-25 Thread John Hasler
 Is there a way will make pon dial my modem silently?

Change the modem intialization string from ATZ to ATM0 .
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Re: Netscape 3.

1999-05-25 Thread William Park
On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:07:22AM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
 
  FC == Fu-Dong Chiou [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 FC Can anyone tell me where I can find Netscape 3?  I remember older
 FC versions of Netscape are stored in an archive, accessible via
 FC browsers, but can't remember the URL now.  Thanks!
 
 Check dpkg --print-avail netscape3
 
 Ciao,
   Martin

Netscape 2 and 3 can be found at
http://www.netscape.com/download/archive/index.html

William


ppp Routing problem

1999-05-25 Thread Mike Patterson

I'm almost there, thanks to various people's help. The last problem I have 
has the symptoms of a routing problem, but ifconfig and route say differently.
Here are the outputs. any clues?

# route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
192.168.0.69*   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 ppp0
localnet*   255.255.255.0   U 0  0   10 eth0
192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  06 eth1
127.0.0.0   *   255.0.0.0   U 0  05 lo
default net2-cust119.co 0.0.0.0 UG1  0   25 eth0

# ifconfig
  inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:5925 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:5650 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:1 
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0x1400 

ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol  
  inet addr:207.141.63.120  P-t-P:192.168.0.69  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:11 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:11 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0 
  Memory:2f4b038-2f4bc04 

# ping 192.168.0.69
PING 192.168.0.69 (192.168.0.69): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
ping: wrote 192.168.0.69 64 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
ping: wrote 192.168.0.69 64 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
ping: wrote 192.168.0.69 64 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
ping: wrote 192.168.0.69 64 chars, ret=-1

--- 192.168.0.69 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss


DNS fails on Sun after moving NIS

1999-05-25 Thread Max
Sorry about posting this to the Debian mailing list, as this has more
to do with SunOS, but I don't know of any other place I can ask this.

I just moved our NIS server from a SunOS 4.1.4 machine to a Debian
machine, and none of the TCP/IP tools (ping, telnet, ftp, etc.) work
on the SunOS box anymore.  The SunOS machine is running ypbind, and
the Linux machine is running ypserv.  The /etc/resolv.conf file is set
up correctly on the SunOS box and it should be going to DNS for name
resolution.  Instead, it tries to look all entries up in the hosts
map, and of course fails.  On Linux, this behavior is controlled by
/etc/nsswitch.conf.  Does anyone know how to fix this on SunOS?

Thanks,
Max

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Whatever the hopeless may say
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Re: how to make modem silent?

1999-05-25 Thread Kent West
David B.Teague wrote:
 
 On Mon, 24 May 1999, Karen Hu wrote:
 
  Is there a way will make pon dial my modem silently?
  I'm still using Hamm (version 2.0).

snip

 Karen,

snip

 Recently, on this list, this question was asked and answered.  I
 have added a little to the speaker volume answer. This mailing
 list is archived at http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/ Please
 read it for it is a gold-mine! There is even a search engine, so
 you don't have to read a 1000 messages to find an answer.

Ditto. It really is a good source of info. However, be aware that the
search engine is at the bottom of the page rather than the more
commonly-used (and intuitive?) top of the page. It was weeks of being a
newbie before I scrolled down far enough to find the search engine. I
had been using the main Debian site search engine (which apparently
doesn't search the mail archives, so I was, to say the least, less than
impressed with the search capabilities of the mail archives. Once I
found the archive search engine, I started finding answers, It has
really helped a lot.


Re: duplicate posts?

1999-05-25 Thread Kent West
Pollywog wrote:
 
 Is everyone else getting duplicate posts?
 
 --
 Andrew

I was, but it seems to have quit now.


Re: [Help] Memory

1999-05-25 Thread Nguyen Hai Ha
On Mon, 24 May 1999, Mr. (Ms.) Gary L. Hennigan wrote:

  It's probably something strange going on with the BIOS function used
  by linux to detect the amount of memory in your computer. I have two
  suggestions you can try:
  
  1) Manually edit /etc/lilo.conf and add a line like:
  
  append=mem=160M
  
  or, if you already have an append line add it to the line like:
  
  append=floppy=thinkpad,mem=160M
  
  2) Alternatively, upgrade to kernel 2.0.36 or higher. Starting with
  2.0.36 the memory detection uses an extended BIOS call to get the
  amount of memory and this could solve your problem. If Windows can
  properly find the amount of RAM then a Linux kernel = 2.0.36 will
  also, since they use the same BIOS call.
  
  Gary
  

Thanks alot for your helpfull advice. I have installed the 2.0.36
kernel and it seems to work well with the memory but the system
itself is unstable. Sometimes, expecially when I run big programs,
the system comes down with the message like Segmentation fault.
But when I set the memory to 32M, 64M, or 128M, the system works well.
What does this mean? Could this be a kernel's bug?

P.S. To Khalid EZZARAOUI [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thanks for your help.

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Re: File Manager?

1999-05-25 Thread Sean
check out /etc/lynx.cfg  and scroll down till you find the part about Save 
Space.

Sean


shadowze wrote:

 After 2 days of reading I cant find the following. Keeping in mind Im a new
 user;
 1) Where is the default download path for Lynx so I can find files I have
 downloaded.

 2) Is there a default file manager that comes with the base or optional
 install of Debian?
I have tried to download Midnight commander from the packages but as #1
 says I cant find the path. I have tried Emacs but is so slow to try to
 browse the files.

 I am going to go and browse the dselect listing one more time.

 Please make sure I am cc'd as Im on the digest list and I would like to
 make some progress tonight.

 Thanks
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Re: mounting nfs when server down

1999-05-25 Thread Rene H. Larsen
Pere Camps [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   b. Imagine bot the client and the server fall (power out, for
 example). The client boots up faster than the server and when it tries to
 mount the partition it can't. Idea for this: make a C program that looks
 for well mounted directories and if they aren't good it mounts them. C
 because the program will run 'suid' from /etc/profile (and mount is not
 suid). Of course the C program will not accept any parameters nor
 configuration (I don't know much of C program security, so better make it
 simple).
 
   What I'm looking for exactly is if it exists a standard solution
 for problem b.

Using an automounter will solve this problem.  With an automounter the 
directories aren't mounted until they are actually accessed, so it is
no longer a problem if the server boots more slowly than the
client(s).

You'll need to enable kernel support for the autofs file system and
install the Debian autofs package.

HTH.
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wvdial

1999-05-25 Thread Matt Kokidko
I'm trying to connect to my isp using my notebook.  I have a zoom pcmcia modem 
that wvdial recognizes and sets up just fine. When I type wvdial and hit enter 
it dials...logs in...starts ppp daemon, but after 2-3 seconds it says PPP 
daemon has died! (exit code = 1) Disconnecting at ..
So basically it looks like it has connected.  It sounds like it has connected.  
Then just as I am about to proclaim victory it does the above then tries 5 
seconds later and repeats over and over till I Ctrl-C or kill the program.  
Thanks in advance for any help


Re: Web site shuts down Netscape

1999-05-25 Thread Jim Foltz
Kent,

Try disabling java and javascript and see what happens. For me, some
java pages either lock Netscape up, or kill it dead.

On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 11:15:28PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
 My cousin sent the following link to me:
 
 http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Castle/7393/Police.html
 
 Whenever I try to access it using Netscape 4.5 on a system using a 2.2.1
 kernel, I start to connect to the site and then Netscape just quits; no
 warning; no error messages, just bang! and it's gone. I can restart
 Netscape, but if I try to access the site again, bang! gone again.
 
 I was able to access it via lynx, and was able to tell that it's just a
 humour/joke page, so it's not at all important, but I'm concerned that
 simply accessing a web page can shut down Netscape. Do I have something
 configured wrong, or is Netscape that flakey, or what?
 
 Thanks for any info.
 
 
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Re: List archives? was: Re: fetchmail problems

1999-05-25 Thread John
Lazarus Long wrote:

 On Monday, May 24, 1999 at 17:07:37 -0500, Brian Servis wrote:
   Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   X-UIDL: 750f5ce8b238693f85cd478f9c87c1f0

How did you search the archives?  Do you have a working URL for this
handy?  I just filed a bug against www.debian.org since the link from
there appears to be broken recently.  Is there another I overlooked?

   The link off of the main page worked for me.  The url is
   http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/

 Hmm, not any more.  Take a look at
 http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/38/38256.html
 for further info.


Hmmm!

It appears to work fine from a stand-alone box. I just successfully searched the
archives with both Netscape and Lynx. I'm using slink, 2.2.9 and no network. 
Maybe
some conflict between the page and how your network is set up?

John Carline


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RE: Web site shuts down Netscape

1999-05-25 Thread Pollywog

On 24-May-99 Kent West wrote:
 My cousin sent the following link to me:
 
 http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Castle/7393/Police.html
 

It shuts down my Netscape 4.51 also.  

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gIDE make error

1999-05-25 Thread Alan Tam
Hi all,
I have installed the necessary files for gIDE-0.1.1 (they are
glib-1.2.0, gtk+1.2.0 and
guile-1.3).
When I go to make, it compliants about

cd .  aclocal -I macros
aclocal : configure.in: 9: macro 'AM_PATH_GTK' not found in
library
make: ***[aclocal.m4] Error 1

What does that mean ? Any pointers ? or links to FAQ about
gIDE ?

Thanks.
Alan


Re: Web site shuts down Netscape

1999-05-25 Thread Kent West
Jim Foltz wrote:
 
 On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 11:15:28PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
  My cousin sent the following link to me:
 
  http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Castle/7393/Police.html
 
  Whenever I try to access it using Netscape 4.5 on a system using a 2.2.1
  kernel, I start to connect to the site and then Netscape just quits; no
  warning; no error messages, just bang! and it's gone. I can restart
  Netscape, but if I try to access the site again, bang! gone again.
 
  I was able to access it via lynx, and was able to tell that it's just a
  humour/joke page, so it's not at all important, but I'm concerned that
  simply accessing a web page can shut down Netscape. Do I have something
  configured wrong, or is Netscape that flakey, or what?
 
  Thanks for any info.
 
 
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 Kent,
 
 Try disabling java and javascript and see what happens. For me, some
 java pages either lock Netscape up, or kill it dead.
 
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Thanks, Jim, for the hint. However, it didn't make a difference. I even
turned off all the other options under the Advanced category, but the
site still killed Netscape. Oh well, it's the only page I've ever had
this kind of trouble with, and it's not important anyway, so I'm not
going to worry about it too much. Thanks anyway!


install help

1999-05-25 Thread Rod
i just recently installed debian 2.1 from a cd on a dual boot machine. the 
system config is:

-AMD K6 400mhz
-64mb Ram
-13gb HD

this machine also boots to Windows 98, which resides on a 3 GB partition.

I was told that debian would see the entire hd, but cfdisk only saw a total 
of 8 GB.

Rod






Re: getting kde

1999-05-25 Thread Seppo Hassinen
On Tue, 25 May 1999, Chris Hoover wrote:
 does anyone know of a http site that I can get debian debs of kde 1.1.1 from?

From
ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/1.1.1/distribution/deb/hamm/binary-i386/kde
or from several mirrors

Wishes
Seppo

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Re: Debian applications - where to get them???

1999-05-25 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 06:16:33PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
 Nadarajah, Dinesh wrote:
  
  I am running into problems getting applications for Debian.
  
  1.  I wanted to get the Communicator 4.5 and so I checked the Debian
  archives. There is a listing for Communicator 4.5 but when I add up the file
  sizes, they don't match nowhere close to the Netscape Binary posting (of
  around 12MB). Are there any other files that I should be installing along
  with these (there are no other dependencies shown on the package listing)
  ???
  
  2.  I have seen posting on Real G2 player for Linux but I could not find
  it at www.real.com http://www.real.com . Is there a G2 player for Linux
  yet or is it still version 5.0?
  
  3.  I wanted to download x11amp (also called winamp in the Windows
  world) to play MP3 files but could not find it anywhere. Any suggestions on
  where I might be able to get a copy (preferably in .deb format)? (Any
  suggestions for a better player are also welcome :-)  ).
  
  Thanks.
  
  -D
 
 Because of licensing issues, Debian doesn't distribute the actual
 Netscape program; just the installer. You need to download Communicator
 from Netscape's site, copy it to /tmp, then install the Netscape Debian
 package (you might need to rename the downloaded file as per the
 instructions during the install). This should get you going.

This is no longer the case and navigator and communicator packages exist
in both slink and potato (in non-free).  There are multiple packages
required for the installation. 

Bob

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Re: [solved] g2player (fwd)

1999-05-25 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 02:34:51PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
 scratch wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I've solved the lib bugs by installing the stdlibc++-2.8 package. (I only
  had the stdlibc++-2.9 package installed).
  
  Works fine now. If only I knew how to install it properly on my Debian
  system. The way I did it now, I used Alien to convert the .rpm from
  real.com to a .deb.
 
 The correct way to install it is to use the realplayer.deb in unstable.
 
  Of course this is not how it should be, as, for
  example, Netscape plugin support isn't there. 
 
 That's not your fault, the alpha doesn't have netscape plugin support.

But it can be installed as an application in netscape.

Bob

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Re: DHCP and debian

1999-05-25 Thread Kent West
Mark Wright wrote:
 
 I'm adding a debian workstation to our Windows network, and I'd like to use
 our DHCP server to assign it's ip-address, DNS servers, netmask, etc.  Is
 this possible?
 
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I was going to let someone else answer this, but as I haven't seen any
response, I will answer, Yes, it is possible. I've done it, but I
don't remember what was involved. Since I'm pretty new at *nix, it
couldn't have been too hard. I think I just used dselect to install the
dhcp (or maybe dhcpd?) package.

Maybe someone else answered you privately with more info, or maybe
someone else will respond after seeing my technically correct, but
utterly useless* answer.

*From the old lost helicopter pilot at the Microsoft building joke.


Re: wvdial

1999-05-25 Thread Matt Kokidko
I've attached two files which may be of some help.  

-Original Message-
From:   Matt Kokidko [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Monday, May 24, 1999 11:10 PM
To: Debian-User (E-mail); Debian-Laptop (E-mail)
Subject:wvdial

I'm trying to connect to my isp using my notebook.  I have a zoom pcmcia modem 
that wvdial recognizes and sets up just fine. When I type wvdial and hit enter 
it dials...logs in...starts ppp daemon, but after 2-3 seconds it says PPP 
daemon has died! (exit code = 1) Disconnecting at ..
So basically it looks like it has connected.  It sounds like it has connected.  
Then just as I am about to proclaim victory it does the above then tries 5 
seconds later and repeats over and over till I Ctrl-C or kill the program.  
Thanks in advance for any help

WVDIAL.LOG
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WVDIAL.OUT
Description: Binary data


Re: Web site shuts down Netscape

1999-05-25 Thread Brad
On Sun, 23 May 1999, Kent West wrote:

 or is Netscape that flakey, or what?

My best guess is that Netscape isn't handling the bad HTML in that page.
Tables with borders set to -4 (should be a positive number), tags randomly
broken in very strange places, and the GeoCities popup advertisement at
the bottom...

Of course, it would still be good if they fix the flakiness in Mozilla...


problem with new KDEBASE-2 file - a bug

1999-05-25 Thread Pollywog
I just tried to install the KDE packages released today, and there is a
problem with KDEBASE-2; it reports it is owned by rkrusty.rkrusty and since
this user is nonexistent here, it cannot be installed.

--
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RE: problem with new KDEBASE-2 file - a bug

1999-05-25 Thread Pollywog

On 25-May-99 Pollywog wrote:
 I just tried to install the KDE packages released today, and there is a
 problem with KDEBASE-2; it reports it is owned by rkrusty.rkrusty and since
 this user is nonexistent here, it cannot be installed.
 

oops, they were not released today, I just found them in the incoming
directory.

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Re: duplicate posts?

1999-05-25 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Tue, 25 May 1999, Pollywog wrote:

 Is everyone else getting duplicate posts?

If you are refering to the NDN messages, then yes.  Seems someone didn't
setup their server correctly (bounces should go to sender, not to list).
I just sent a message to the debian list master and the post master at
nm.nacion.co.cr.  nm.nacion.co.cr is timing out though, seems they are
having lots of problems, although it's probably slowing down the loop they
are having with our list server.  I'm probably the 1000th person to report
the problem, so others probably need not bother.

Otherwise, no, I'm not seeing dups.  Although I did get a cool double
download problem with fetchmail recently.  I started fetchmail in daemon
mode and immediatly after ran fetchmail to wake up the daemon.  Whatever
lock file that needed to be written hadn't started yet, so there was a
cool double downloading going on.  Actually, it wasn't too cool, it was
very annoying.  There can probably be some better file locking and pid
maintaining with that program (every once in a while, fetchmail is
convinced that fetchmail -q is pointless). 

Have a good one,
Brandon


Re: how to make modem silent?

1999-05-25 Thread Shao Zhang
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 02:07:10PM -0400, Karen Hu wrote:
 Is there a way will make pon dial my modem silently?
 I'm still using Hamm (version 2.0).
 
 Thanks,
 
 (Note: I'm not on debian-user@, so plz include this address in your
 msg).
 
 -Ping

Read the manual comes with your modem. If you use pon/poff or pppd for 
dialing,
then modify the string ATDT and change it to ATDTM0, which disables the 
sound
for my modem. M1 will turn on the sound option.

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Re: laptop netconfig

1999-05-25 Thread Justin Hagemeier
 Well I sort of do this allready I have a laptop that has the Potato distro on 
 it, I use both ethernet and ppp,
 I am using the DHCP client in potato and it works great; if there is no 
 ethernet connection, then no IP is assigned
 to the eth0 interface, essentially no route. I just use PPP normaly.
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How do you get over the problem with dhcp(potato) hanging when there is no net 
connection?  dhcpcd just sits there if it cannot find one. (or atleast I have 
never been patient enough to wait it out, I give it about 30 s and give up) 
just installing both would be great for now if that worked.

Although, I would like a scheme where it starts the right daemon because it 
could protentially less time and memory than starting both.  Jens you are right 
about error trapping kernel message would be brain dead.  However ifconfig 
STDOUT does give you how many packets are recieved, if you sent 1 and did not 
recieve any in reply the
you have a smarter way of knowing whether or not you have a live line.  You 
could use regex to parse that ifconfig STDOUT in the script.  I am reaching 
here.:-)

What do you think?

Thanks,
haggs


Re: Installing from source

1999-05-25 Thread Otgonbayar Uuye

Thanks a lot .

Just one more question. What about cvs?  Am I still supposed to make packages 
first?

---Otgonbayar
 
On 火, 5 25 1999, Carl Mummert wrote:
Carl There is a package named 'alien' that can take care of some of this, 
depending
Carl on exactly what you are needing to install.
Carl 
Carl 
Carl What you do is to layout the files in some remote directory, like you
Carl would want them installed: 
Carl 
Carl   /somewhere--etc/file1
Carl |
Carl  --usr/bin/\file2
Carl |
Carl   --- and so forth
Carl 
Carl You can do this automtically with most makefiles by chainging the
Carl INSTALL_PREFIX or similar variable to point to some remote directory
Carl that you create for this purpose (then, 'make install' will put the files
Carl in that remote place.. just go slow.)  You can also just build up
Carl the directories by hand.  
Carl 
Carl Make sure the permissions on all the files are correct.
Carl 
Carl Then, cd to that remote directory.  Notice that, in some sense, it is the
Carl root directory for your installation.  What you will do is to package the
Carl files in this direcotry; then, when they are installed from the root
Carl directory, they will fall where they should. 
Carl 
Carl From that remote directory, run 'tar czvf package.tgz'.  This will amke
Carl a file named 'package.tgz' that has all of the files that were in
Carl your current directory and below. Don't use the name 'package'!
Carl 
Carl Now run 'alien package.tgz' as root - you will get a package.deb
Carl file.  Now, run dpkg -i pacakge.deb.  You cen rm the tgz file and
Carl the files in the remote directory.  
Carl 
Carl To uninstall, 'dpkg --purge package' will work.
Carl 
Carl 
Carl Carl



Kde questions

1999-05-25 Thread Robert Rati
I've recently switched to KDe to see what all the fuss was about.  It's
not bad, although I have a few questions.  First, I right clicked on the
clock at the lower right of the panel and clicked undock, to see what it
would do.  Well, the boarder around the clock disappeared and I can't get
it back.  I've looked all over the configuration wizards, but can't find
any mention of it.  Secondly, how do you add stuff to the panel?  I can
add items owned by Root, but that doesn't do me much good in terms of my
user owning it and being able to modify them.  How do I add items to the
panel so that a user can edit them?  How do I use the templates in the
folder in on the desktop?  I'm assuming those are for creating links in
the panel?  TIA.

Rob

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compile java source as binaries

1999-05-25 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
I saw that there are a couple of deb packages to compile the java 
source code into binaries.

What is the difference between them? I need to compile some java 
programs into binaries to get
better performance.

Thanks.

Shao.

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Re: Installing from source

1999-05-25 Thread Otgonbayar Uuye
On 火, 5 25 1999, Brad wrote:
Brad On Mon, 24 May 1999, Otgonbayar Uuye wrote:
Brad 
Brad  1. How am I supposed to install programs from tarball source code? I 
can untar and compile them,
Brad  but then the debian package system doesn't recognize it. 
Brad  
Brad  For instance I have downloaded qt-1.44.tar.gz, compiled and installed 
it. Then qt installs itself in
Brad  /usr/local which violates the debian policy as I understand. KDE does 
the same thing. As my
Brad  system doesn't recognize them, it wouldn't configure it properly. Also 
how do I uninstall them  then?   
Brad 
Brad Actually, that is exactly Debian policy: programs you install yourself go
Brad under /usr/local, the distro never touches it.
Brad 
Brad If you make a deb from the sources, then you should of course make it not
Brad touch /usr/local.
Brad 

Ok, say I install qt in /usr/local/qt, then when I upgrade to potato I will 
have multiple copies of qt.


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adding local TeX sty files

1999-05-25 Thread Max
If I wanted to add my local teTeX sty files, where on the system is
the proper Debian place to put them?  For example, I would like to add
figdef.sty which doesn't come with the distribution.  Do I need to
make any configuration file changes?

Thanks,
Max

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