Re: AUTOCAD y MATHCAD

1999-12-01 Thread Jairo Bernal
Pues no sé si te servirá algo semejante a MathLab:
http://www-rocq.inria.fr/scilab
Date una pasada por:
http://linuxcol.uniandes.edu.co/linuxcol/conferencias/jgomez/applic_cient/in
dex.html
Allí hay un recuento de aplicaciones científicas para Linux
Un saludo
At 06:29 p.m. 30/11/99 -0300, you wrote:

 Existe algún programa para Linux de CAD similar al AUTOCAD y
 que genere archivos compatibles con AUTOCAD??
 Lo mismo pregunto del programa MATHCAD. Espero que existan porque
 seria mi mudanza definitiva del WINDOWS.

   Andrés

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Re: No puedo con tar

1999-12-01 Thread Ricard Sierra
On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 05:09:23PM +0100, Han Solo wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 06:25:10PM +0100, Barbwired wrote:
  La página de manual es infumable, /usr/doc/tar no ayuda mucho, y la info es
  tan pesada de navegar (llamadme vaga, lo merezco).
  ¿Alguien ha visto algún tutorial sencillito para empezar a hacer cositas
  más avanzadas que empaquetar y desmpaquetar?
  
  Un saludo!
 
 Un par de trucos que tenía por ahí guardados.
 
 Mover directorios enteros entre sistemas de ficheros (muy útil cuando se
 cambia el disco duro). Del mismísimo Alan Cox:
 
 (cd /origen/directorio; tar cf - . ) | (cd /dest/directorio; tar xvfp -)

  Mejor cambiar los ; por  Asi si te equivocas al poner el nombre de
los directorios no arranca el tar y te copia el directorio en el
directorio actual.

 
 al que yo simplificaría como
 
 tar cf - /directorio/a/copiar |tar xvpf - 
 
 que copia en el directorio actual. 

  Cuidado! tar conserva todo el path de los ficheros no els lo mismo
tar ... pepe que tar ... /pepe. En el primero al descomprimir te
crea el directorio pepe en el directorio actual, en el segundo caso te
lo crea en /. De todas maneras me parece que eso esta solucionado en la
version actual del tar que por defecto elimina el / inicial caso de
existir. De todas maneras ves que no es lo mismo. Prueba con el
parametro -C para eso.

  Por cierto me parece que en la nueva version de mv ja detecta cuando
el destino esta en un fs diferente y actua en consecuencia con lo que
para mover directorios se puede usar mv sin problemas.

Saludos.

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Re: win de esclavo

1999-12-01 Thread Jose M. Gurpegui


31 wrote:
 
 la historia es, que tengo el linux instalado en el disco duro maestro y
 quiero instalar el windows en el esclavo, pero al meter el cd de windows
 y comenzar la instalación me dice que se instalará en el primer disco,
 ¿alguien tiene instalado el windows el un esclavo?
 el tema no va con debian...pero la verdad es que no quiero tener que
 asesinar mi debian por un windows...vale mas pajaro en mano que ciento
 volando :

tienes que crear una pequeña partición en el disco maestro para win (15
o 20 megas,
tal vez menos), luego crea la partición grande en el disco esclavo. 

Yo lo que hice fue quitar esos megas a la partición swap que tenía en el
disco maestro y ponerlas para win.

Saludos,

José Miguel Gurpegui

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Re: Bash Fuera

1999-12-01 Thread Xose Manoel Ramos
El Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 07:58:21PM +0100, Ricard Sierra contaba:
  Es el shell oficial de BSD. Busca en Free/Open/NetBSD.

 http://www.freebsd.org
 http://www.openbsd.org

Y falta el del NetBSD, pero creo que aunque todos estais pensando en
que es un 'org' creo recordar que no. En cualquier caso, por probar
no pasa nada.

 
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ups! perdon

1999-12-01 Thread Andrés A. Rocchia

  Agradezco a todos los que me han dado una mano con el tema de CAD,
  realmente me ha sido de ayuda, por otro lado pido disculpas por
  haber mandado el mail en forma crosposting (no sabia que tenia
  nombre específico) y que quizá halla molestado a mas de uno, no lo
  volvere a repetir.

   Andrés

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Re: Mails duplicados

1999-12-01 Thread Carlos Javier Sosa Gonzalez
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Hue-Bond wrote:

 El martes 30 de noviembre de 1999 a la(s) 10:51:32 +, Carlos Javier Sosa 
 Gonzalez contaba:
 
  Hacia tiempo que no me pasaba, pero en ciertas ocasiones me
 encuentro el mismo mail repetido. Me acaba de pasar con el de la
 rectificacion de la duda del tar...
 
  Quizá por.
 
 To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  A mí me pasa muchas veces.
 
 

No eso seguro que no es, lo demuestra la cabecera de los emails
duplicados.


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Re: AUTOCAD y MATHCAD

1999-12-01 Thread Han Solo
On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 06:29:39PM -0300, Andrés A. Rocchia wrote:
 
  Existe algún programa para Linux de CAD similar al AUTOCAD y
  que genere archivos compatibles con AUTOCAD??
  Lo mismo pregunto del programa MATHCAD. Espero que existan porque
  seria mi mudanza definitiva del WINDOWS.
 
Para sustituir mathcad no sé, pero en el asunto del CAD tienes microstation.
Microstation es un programa coj* donde los haya, mucho mejor que el
autocad; más sencillo, más potente, más rápido, más ligero... En versión
estudiante cuesta 13.000 pesetas, la versión completa + módulo (no recuerdo
si era el de ingenieria o de diseño mecánico). Viene también con dos
entornos de desarrollo y la documentación completa en formato pdf. Realmente
merece la pena. Yo tengo la versión 95, pero debe hebaer versiones más
recientes. El distribuidor en Espana (por lo menos en Madrid) es Aula
Técnica Ingenieros (lo siento, no tengo el teléfono ni la dirección).
Además, importa y exporta perfectamente ficheros de autocad.

No se lo qué hace exactamente el Mathcad, pero un paquete matemático muy
bueno es el Maple V.

Siento lo del crosspost; saludos a todas las listas desde
debian-user-spanish
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Resultados prueba Athlon K7 500/600

1999-12-01 Thread Ramiro Alba
Hola a todos:

Despues de mas una semana de prueba y de algun que otro dolor de cabeza
las conclusiones son las siguientes:

1 - El redimiento con nuestros programas numéricos ha llegado a alcancar
un 30% de incremento con respecto al P III 500 (55% si en vez de K7 500
se utiliza el K7 600 que es el que tenemos ahora) y en los casos mas
desfavorables (los menos), van a la par. He leido
(http://www.TomsHardware.com) que el P III 600 tiene problemas de
calentamiento debido a que funciona con una tension de 2.01 mientras que
el K7 600 va a 1.6. ¿Alguien tiene algún otro dato?

2 - La placa base ASUS K7M/500 funciona sin ningun problema. Tuve la
mala suerte de que la que traía inicialmente el PC, tenia problemas (ya
la he cambiado) lo que originaba errores de hardware al compilar y un
funcionamiento inestable, que también puede ser debido a memoria
defectuosa (el famoso: gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got
fatal signal 11; gracias a la lista me pude centrar en que se trataba de
un problema de hardware y no otro tipo de problema intrínseco al
procesador Athlon). Esta placa defectuosa fue el causante de los
problemas con el diso FUJITSU: me formateaba una particion de 8Gb con
errores al final del proceso al hacer chequeo de bad blocks como
siempre.

3 - Un inconveniente con esta placa es que al instalar debian con el
kernel de los diskets de instalacion (2.0.35-36), no informa
correctamente de los parámetros del disco (los kernel 2.2.* no tienen
problema con esta placa). Esto está perfectamente comentado en la última
version del mini-HOWTO Large-Disk en el apartado 11.1 (Bios
complications). Para enterarse de que va esto de la geometria de los
discos y los problemas relacionados con ella, es una guia EXCELENTE
(recomiendo tambien mirar www.pcguide.com). De todos modos, esta
cuestión está lejos de ser trivial y es una maraña de mucho cuidado que
requiere mas de una lectura cuidadosa.

4 - El Athlon funciona como una seda con Debian 2.1 y nosotros en
nuestro trabajo diario (workstation de desarrallo de software), no hemos
encontrado ningún problema. Hoy mismo haremos un pedido de 15 unidades
mas para montar un Cluster Beowulf. Os mantendré informados.

Saludos

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Re: Resultados prueba Athlon K7 500/600

1999-12-01 Thread Jose M. Gurpegui


Ramiro Alba wrote:
 
 Hola a todos:
 
 Despues de mas una semana de prueba y de algun que otro dolor de cabeza
 las conclusiones son las siguientes:
 
 1 - El redimiento con nuestros programas numéricos ha llegado a alcancar
 un 30% de incremento con respecto al P III 500 (55% si en vez de K7 500
 se utiliza el K7 600 que es el que tenemos ahora) y en los casos mas
 desfavorables (los menos), van a la par. He leido
 (http://www.TomsHardware.com) que el P III 600 tiene problemas de
 calentamiento debido a que funciona con una tension de 2.01 mientras que
 el K7 600 va a 1.6. ¿Alguien tiene algún otro dato?
 
 2 - La placa base ASUS K7M/500 funciona sin ningun problema. Tuve la
 mala suerte de que la que traía inicialmente el PC, tenia problemas (ya
 la he cambiado) lo que originaba errores de hardware al compilar y un
 funcionamiento inestable, que también puede ser debido a memoria
 defectuosa (el famoso: gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got
 fatal signal 11; gracias a la lista me pude centrar en que se trataba de
 un problema de hardware y no otro tipo de problema intrínseco al
 procesador Athlon). Esta placa defectuosa fue el causante de los
 problemas con el diso FUJITSU: me formateaba una particion de 8Gb con
 errores al final del proceso al hacer chequeo de bad blocks como
 siempre.
 
 3 - Un inconveniente con esta placa es que al instalar debian con el
 kernel de los diskets de instalacion (2.0.35-36), no informa
 correctamente de los parámetros del disco (los kernel 2.2.* no tienen
 problema con esta placa). Esto está perfectamente comentado en la última
 version del mini-HOWTO Large-Disk en el apartado 11.1 (Bios
 complications). Para enterarse de que va esto de la geometria de los
 discos y los problemas relacionados con ella, es una guia EXCELENTE
 (recomiendo tambien mirar www.pcguide.com). De todos modos, esta
 cuestión está lejos de ser trivial y es una maraña de mucho cuidado que
 requiere mas de una lectura cuidadosa.
 
 4 - El Athlon funciona como una seda con Debian 2.1 y nosotros en
 nuestro trabajo diario (workstation de desarrallo de software), no hemos
 encontrado ningún problema. Hoy mismo haremos un pedido de 15 unidades
 mas para montar un Cluster Beowulf. Os mantendré informados.


¿Cuál era la placa que daba problemas?


Saludos,

José Miguel Gurpegui

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Re: Resultados prueba Athlon K7 500/600

1999-12-01 Thread Ramiro Alba
  mas para montar un Cluster Beowulf. Os mantendré informados.
 
 ¿Cuál era la placa que daba problemas?
 

ASUS K7M/500. Pero no son problemas intrínsecos a la placa, sino que la
que venía con el PC, estaba defectuosa. Placa cambiada, problema
solucionado

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FTP de Linux Cutre?

1999-12-01 Thread dfm

Hola

Probando a bajarme cosas con ftp veo con desilusión que el cliente ftp de
linux no me dice ni cuanto llevo bajado, ni si realmente el archivo se baja
a una velocidad o a otra. Lo que yo me pregunto es, esto es porque el
cliente ftp de linux es cutre o porque hay que habilitar alguna opción para
que te muestre a tiempo real como por ejemplo el cliente ftp de os/2 que
dice Recibidos  bytes a tiempo real, haciendote saber así los bytes
has recibido y si vienen rápido o lento, y lo mismo enviando.

Un saludo

Daniel

PD: Como anécdota añado que el cliente de os/2 también es una cutrez, ni
siquiera tiene reget, pero al menos ves lo que te bajas y sobre todo, si se
baja.



RE: FTP de Linux Cutre?

1999-12-01 Thread Tejada Lacaci, Antonio
 -Mensaje original-
 De:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviado el:   miércoles 1 de diciembre de 1999 11:13
 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Asunto:   FTP de Linux Cutre?
 
 
 Hola
 
 Probando a bajarme cosas con ftp veo con desilusión que el cliente ftp de
 linux no me dice ni cuanto llevo bajado, ni si realmente el archivo se
 baja
 a una velocidad o a otra.
 
Supongo que te refieres al cliente ftp en línea de comandos ¿non?
En ese caso, prueba a poner 
hash
en el cliente ftp antes de hacer el get.
Le puedes indicar también el tamaño de la marca de hash (más info en su
proveedor de man autorizado y en rfc adecuado).
Respecto al reget, eso depende más del sitio ftp destino que del cliente,
pero ignoro si el ftp de linux soporta reget. De todas maneras, seguro que
en freshmeat encuentras alguno que lo soporte :-?

Antonio Tejada Lacaci   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Depto. Análisis y Programación
Banca March S.A.


 Un saludo
 
 Daniel


Re: FTP de Linux Cutre?

1999-12-01 Thread Jose Luis Trivino
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hola
 
 Probando a bajarme cosas con ftp veo con desilusión que el cliente ftp de
 linux no me dice ni cuanto llevo bajado, ni si realmente el archivo se baja
 a una velocidad o a otra. Lo que yo me pregunto es, esto es porque el
 cliente ftp de linux es cutre o porque hay que habilitar alguna opción para
 que te muestre a tiempo real como por ejemplo el cliente ftp de os/2 que
 dice Recibidos  bytes a tiempo real, haciendote saber así los bytes
 has recibido y si vienen rápido o lento, y lo mismo enviando.
Prueba a cambiar a ncftp. Es un cliente ftp linux en modo
texto muy bueno. Aparte de indicarte el procentaje bajado y
el tiempo de espera también tiene bookmarks y es capaz de
descargar un fichero comenzando por donde se habia cortado
en una descarga anterior. También puede descargar
estructuras de directorios completas.

Hasta más bits,

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RE: FTP de Linux Cutre?

1999-12-01 Thread dfm

el clinete ftp de linux si que soporta reget, lo que quería saber era lo de
hash que probaré esta tarde...

Gracias y un saludo

Daniel




debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org con fecha 01/12/99 12:18:20

Destinatarios: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
CC:  (cci: Daniel Ferradal Marquez/INFO/URQUIJO)
Asunto: RE: FTP de Linux Cutre?




 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviado el:  miércoles 1 de diciembre de 1999 11:13
 Para:   debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Asunto: FTP de Linux Cutre?


 Hola

 Probando a bajarme cosas con ftp veo con desilusión que el cliente ftp de
 linux no me dice ni cuanto llevo bajado, ni si realmente el archivo se
 baja
 a una velocidad o a otra.

Supongo que te refieres al cliente ftp en línea de comandos ¿non?
En ese caso, prueba a poner
hash
en el cliente ftp antes de hacer el get.
Le puedes indicar también el tamaño de la marca de hash (más info en su
proveedor de man autorizado y en rfc adecuado).
Respecto al reget, eso depende más del sitio ftp destino que del cliente,
pero ignoro si el ftp de linux soporta reget. De todas maneras, seguro que
en freshmeat encuentras alguno que lo soporte :-?

Antonio Tejada Lacaci  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Depto. Análisis y Programación
Banca March S.A.


 Un saludo

 Daniel


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Re: FTP de Linux Cutre?

1999-12-01 Thread Luis Calero

  Utiliza ncftp. Tiene eso y muchas cosas mas.

  Bye!

 Probando a bajarme cosas con ftp veo con desilusión que el cliente ftp de
 linux no me dice ni cuanto llevo bajado, ni si realmente el archivo se baja
 a una velocidad o a otra. Lo que yo me pregunto es, esto es porque el
 cliente ftp de linux es cutre o porque hay que habilitar alguna opción para
 que te muestre a tiempo real como por ejemplo el cliente ftp de os/2 que
 dice Recibidos  bytes a tiempo real, haciendote saber así los bytes
 has recibido y si vienen rápido o lento, y lo mismo enviando.

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Re: FTP de Linux Cutre?

1999-12-01 Thread Ramiro Alba
Luis Calero wrote:
 
   Utiliza ncftp. Tiene eso y muchas cosas mas.
 
   Bye!
 
  Probando a bajarme cosas con ftp veo con desilusión que el cliente ftp de
  linux no me dice ni cuanto llevo bajado, ni si realmente el archivo se baja
  a una velocidad o a otra. Lo que yo me pregunto es, esto es porque el
  cliente ftp de linux es cutre o porque hay que habilitar alguna opción para
  que te muestre a tiempo real como por ejemplo el cliente ftp de os/2 que
  dice Recibidos  bytes a tiempo real, haciendote saber así los bytes
  has recibido y si vienen rápido o lento, y lo mismo enviando.
 
Otra opcion es lftp. Va muy bien.

Saludos

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Re: AUTOCAD y MATHCAD

1999-12-01 Thread Agustin MuNoz
El mar, 30 de nov de 1999, a las 06:29:39 -0300,  Andrés A. Rocchia  va y 
dice:

  Existe algún programa para Linux de CAD similar al AUTOCAD y
  que genere archivos compatibles con AUTOCAD??
  Lo mismo pregunto del programa MATHCAD. Espero que existan porque
  seria mi mudanza definitiva del WINDOWS.

Mathcad no lo conozco pero para sustituir a AutoCAD tienes Qcad :)

http://www.qcad.org

QCad is a very powerful and easy to use CAD program for Linux.
QCad uses DXF as its standard file format. You can load, merge
and save DXF files. Furthermore it offers support for the HPGL
format. 
While other CAD packages get complicated to use and unclear,
QCad stays comfortable and even an absolute begginner can create
professional drawings with a minimum of effort.

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Re: FTP de Linux Cutre? (The End)

1999-12-01 Thread dfm

Muchas gracias a todos los que habeis respondido, desde luego ya tengo
buenas alternativas al cliente ftp raspado de Linux.

Un saludo

Daniel Ferradal



Re: AUTOCAD y MATHCAD

1999-12-01 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
At 06:29 p.m. 30/11/99 -0300, Andrés A. Rocchia wrote:

 Existe algún programa para Linux de CAD similar al AUTOCAD y
 que genere archivos compatibles con AUTOCAD??
 Lo mismo pregunto del programa MATHCAD. Espero que existan porque
 seria mi mudanza definitiva del WINDOWS.

Que lástima que los tarados de Autodesk se hubieran decidido definitivamente
por Windows en este preciso momento, sino estaríamos a pocos pasos de una
version de AutoCAD para Linux (así fuera la 12)

Puedes buscar en freshmeat.net por CAD, o ir directamente al índice de
aplicaciones y entrar a X11/CAE (o algo así). Yo ví uno que se llama QCAD
pero aún no lo he probado, aunque vi unos screenshots y se ve como bueno.



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Re: win de esclavo

1999-12-01 Thread Barbwired
31 decía:
 la historia es, que tengo el linux instalado en el disco duro maestro y
 quiero instalar el windows en el esclavo, pero al meter el cd de windows
 y comenzar la instalación me dice que se instalará en el primer disco,
 ¿alguien tiene instalado el windows el un esclavo?

Engañalo con malas artes: Desenchufa tu maestro (el de Linux) y pones el esclavo
sólo, instalas win, apagas y pones tu maestro y tu esclavo como quieras. Le 
dices a LILO dónde está cada cosa y quizá funcione.

Suerte!

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Problemas al actualizar sendmail de hamm a slink

1999-12-01 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
Buenas a todos y todas.
   
   Ayer hine una actualización (ya era horita) de Hamm a Slink y como era de
   esperar no tuve problemas con casi nada...Debian es así :-)
  
 El único problema lo tengo con sendmail que al pasar de la versión de
 Hamm a
 Slink parece que varía el tema de la base que utiliza y aconseja 
recontruir
 los ficheros de configuración. Si los vuelvo a hacer, no puedo
mandar correo
a gente
con mi mismo dominio del servidor de correo (ctv.es, tengo conexión a Inet
por ppp) pues parece que no me enmascar como debe el dominio local y CTV me
dice lógicamente que no acepta procesarlo.

Si utilizo los ficheros de configuración de la versión de sendmail de hamm,
variando alguna cosita, me rebota los mensajes CTV con la misma historia :-(

¿Qué tengo que decirle al tipo este (sendmail) para que me entienda? :)
Adjunto los ficheros de configuración de hamm y slink por si alguien tiene
la suficiente paciencia y bondad como para echarme un cable 0:-)

Muchas gracias y ¡viva apt! :)
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Re: win de esclavo

1999-12-01 Thread dfm

Si no hay ninguna partición antes de la que tienes instalado el windows que
sea fat y cuando arranques el windows se ve a sí mismo como c: entonces doy
fé que la solución de Barb. funciona.

Saludos

Daniel





debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org con fecha 01/12/99 14:45:32

Destinatarios: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
CC:  (cci: Daniel Ferradal Marquez/INFO/URQUIJO)
Asunto: Re: win de esclavo




31 decía:
 la historia es, que tengo el linux instalado en el disco duro maestro y
 quiero instalar el windows en el esclavo, pero al meter el cd de windows
 y comenzar la instalación me dice que se instalará en el primer disco,
 ¿alguien tiene instalado el windows el un esclavo?

Engañalo con malas artes: Desenchufa tu maestro (el de Linux) y pones el
esclavo sólo, instalas win, apagas y pones tu maestro y tu esclavo como
quieras. Le dices a LILO dónde está cada cosa y quizá funcione.

Suerte!

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Re: win de esclavo

1999-12-01 Thread Roberto Suarez Soto
On mié, dic 01, 1999 at 12:48:49 +0100, 31 wrote:

 la historia es, que tengo el linux instalado en el disco duro maestro y
 quiero instalar el windows en el esclavo, pero al meter el cd de windows
 y comenzar la instalación me dice que se instalará en el primer disco,
 ¿alguien tiene instalado el windows el un esclavo?
 el tema no va con debian...pero la verdad es que no quiero tener que
 asesinar mi debian por un windows...vale mas pajaro en mano que ciento
 volando :

Creo que lo que buscas es map-drive, una opción de Lilo.

zless /usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz:

MAP-DRIVE=bios_device_code Instructs chain.b to install a resident
driver that re-maps the floppy or hard disk drives. This way, one can
boot any operating system from a hard disk different from the first
one, as long as that operating system uses _only_ the BIOS to access
that hard disk.* This is known to work for PC/MS-DOS.

En el mismo documento hay ejemplos de cómo usar esto.

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Re: win de esclavo

1999-12-01 Thread Carlos
Tal día como Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 12:48:49AM +0100, 31 nos decía:
 la historia es, que tengo el linux instalado en el disco duro maestro y
 quiero instalar el windows en el esclavo, pero al meter el cd de windows
 y comenzar la instalación me dice que se instalará en el primer disco...


Tienes dos opciones:
1. Haces una pequeña partición en el primario (un par de megas serán 
suficientes) para que winchoff instale sus ficheros de arranque y, cuando 
te pida donde instalar /windows le dices que en d (partición formateada
vfat en el disco esclavo). De esta forma, güin no se queja, instala sus
cuatro ficheros de arranque en C (partición /dev/hdaX de dos megas) y el 
resto (todo su tochazo) lo tendrás en D (partición tocho_que_quieras en
/dev/hdbX).
2. Engañando a güindos. Deshabilitas el disco primario en la BIOS (o en su
defecto pinchas el secundario como maestro) e instalas el ventanucos tal
cual. Una vez instalado, vuelves a habilitar el primario (es decir, a
dejarlo todo como antes de la instalación) y tendrás TODO el windows en el
disco secundario (/dev/hdb). En este segundo caso, para arrancar el win
mediante lilo tienes que añadir unas líneas al lilo.conf tal como:

other = /dev/hdb1
  map-drive = 0x80
to = 0x81
  map-drive = 0x81
to = 0x80

(siempre que lo hayas instalado en la primera partición del secundario; en
caso negativo, cambias /hdb1 por la que corresponda). Ejecutas lilo y listo.
Salud.

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Bricomania (2 monitores, 2 teclados, 1 ordenador debian)

1999-12-01 Thread jppuerta
Hola!!

Tengo una remesa de esos monitores enanos del telepizza que son una
monada, son vga y sosportan 640x480 aunque son monocromo. La cosa es
que he pensado que podria enchufarselos al ordenador como terminales,
pero notengo torre de ordenador ni siquiera 8086 por lo que me
preguntaba si es posible enchufarselo directamente, es decir, ponerle
una tarjeta vga, enchufar el monitor, ponerle un teclado (eso no se
como) y configurarlo todo aunque sea para ponel el bitchx

No se porque tendria qu edar problemas, creo que las vgas harian
conflicto pero si el win98 lo soluciona no veo porque linux no... el
mayor pero que le veo es el tema del teclado, a alguien se le ocurre
algo?

Lo mas factible se que seria hacerse con un ordenador 8086 sin disco
duro y ponerlo en serie pero es mas la curiosidad que me puede :-))

Saludos, JP


Re: AUTOCAD y MATHCAD

1999-12-01 Thread Fernando Sanchez
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Andrés A. Rocchia wrote:

  Existe algún programa para Linux de CAD similar al AUTOCAD y
  que genere archivos compatibles con AUTOCAD??
  Lo mismo pregunto del programa MATHCAD. Espero que existan porque

Con Debian tienes QCad, que es sólo 2D pero cumple bastante bien su función,
y es totalmente gratuito. Si quieres uno comercial, tal como te comentaban,
Bentley Microstation es una opción muy buena. Y no conozco ningún sustituto
de Mathcad -no digo que no lo haya, claro-, pero lo su fabricante también
vende la versión para Linux, así que ya sabes :-))

Hay una recopilación bastante buena de enlaces a programas científicos
para Linux, SAL; el mirror en España es: http://ceu.fi.udc.es/SAL (desde la
página principal puedes encontrar el enlace al sitio que te quede más cerca
a ti)


Re: FTP de Linux Cutre?

1999-12-01 Thread Oscar González
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hola
 
 Probando a bajarme cosas con ftp veo con desilusión que el cliente ftp de
 linux no me dice ni cuanto llevo bajado, ni si realmente el archivo se baja
 a una velocidad o a otra. Lo que yo me pregunto es, esto es porque el
 cliente ftp de linux es cutre o porque hay que habilitar alguna opción para
 que te muestre a tiempo real como por ejemplo el cliente ftp de os/2 que
 dice Recibidos  bytes a tiempo real, haciendote saber así los bytes
 has recibido y si vienen rápido o lento, y lo mismo enviando.
 
 Un saludo
 
 Daniel

Hola:

Puedes probar también wget y gwget bajo Gnome. También Caitoo (parecido al
famoso Getright de Güindous) para Kde. Los puedes encontar en www.freshmeat.net

Saludos
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Re: AUTOCAD y MATHCAD

1999-12-01 Thread Aleck Romero
El bentley microstation hace tiempo no lo uso, pero es buenisimo, no sabia que
corriera en Linux, y el Maple es mucho mas completo que el mathcad, de hecho
mathcad usa la maquina matematica de maple para algunas cosas

Saludos

Han Solo wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 06:29:39PM -0300, Andrés A. Rocchia wrote:
 
   Existe algún programa para Linux de CAD similar al AUTOCAD y
   que genere archivos compatibles con AUTOCAD??
   Lo mismo pregunto del programa MATHCAD. Espero que existan porque
   seria mi mudanza definitiva del WINDOWS.
 
 Para sustituir mathcad no sé, pero en el asunto del CAD tienes microstation.
 Microstation es un programa coj* donde los haya, mucho mejor que el
 autocad; más sencillo, más potente, más rápido, más ligero... En versión
 estudiante cuesta 13.000 pesetas, la versión completa + módulo (no recuerdo
 si era el de ingenieria o de diseño mecánico). Viene también con dos
 entornos de desarrollo y la documentación completa en formato pdf. Realmente
 merece la pena. Yo tengo la versión 95, pero debe hebaer versiones más
 recientes. El distribuidor en Espana (por lo menos en Madrid) es Aula
 Técnica Ingenieros (lo siento, no tengo el teléfono ni la dirección).
 Además, importa y exporta perfectamente ficheros de autocad.

 No se lo qué hace exactamente el Mathcad, pero un paquete matemático muy
 bueno es el Maple V.

 Siento lo del crosspost; saludos a todas las listas desde
 debian-user-spanish
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Re: X-Window (Antes: Freeze de Potato)

1999-12-01 Thread Ricard Sierra
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 11:02:08AM -0500, ADnoctum wrote:
 Lo que creo que pasa es que las X se han quedado un poco anticuadas
 frente a la vertiginosa evolucion de las tarjetas graficas de los
 ultimos años. Esperemos que con la llegada de la version 4.0 se ponga
 un
 poco al dia.
 
 
 Y yo me pregunto... Si BeOS tambien utiliza X, ¿Por qué diablos es tan
 rápido?
 

  Que yo sepa BeOS no utiliza X por defecto. Si utiliza X sera una capa
encima del API basico de BeOS.

  Si te fijas el sistema grafico de BeOS es mucho mas avanzado que X
desde el punto de vista de sistema personal. Se pueden tener varios
espacios de trabajo cada uno con unas caracteristicas diferentes
(resolucion, numero de colores, etc.) y cambiar de uno a otro de forma
automatica. Incluso se pueden canviar estos parametros al vuelo,
reconfigurandose todas las aplicaciones que estan corriendo en ese
momento. Eso X-Window no puede hacer, es mucho mas estatico. Por contra
BeOS no admite un sistema distribuido.

  De todas formas BeOS es un gran sistema operativo a nivel usuario
personal. Lastima que dejaran de fabricar el hard porque eran maquinas
realmente maravillosas. Como decian por la epoca eran los Amiga de la
segunda mitad de los noventa. Por desgracia como siempre el poder de los
PC's es demasiado grande para pequeñas compañias que quieran innovar.

Saludos.


-- 
Ricard Sierra Rebull


I can connect to my isp, everything I send out is lost...

1999-12-01 Thread Tom Cato Amundsen
I don't have a clue whats going on. My university degrees are in music.

/var/log/messages:
Dec  1 00:31:34 debian kernel: ippp0: dialing 1 81545000...
Dec  1 00:31:35 debian kernel: isdn_net: ippp0 connected
Dec  1 00:31:35 debian ipppd[604]: Local number: 76928287, Remote
number: 81545000, Type: outgoing
Dec  1 00:31:35 debian ipppd[604]: PHASE_WAIT - PHASE_ESTABLISHED,
ifunit: 0, linkunit: 0, fd: 7
Dec  1 00:31:36 debian ipppd[604]: Remote message:
Dec  1 00:31:36 debian ipppd[604]: MPPP negotiation, He: No We: No
Dec  1 00:31:36 debian ipppd[604]: CCP enabled! Trying CCP.
Dec  1 00:31:36 debian ipppd[604]: CCP: got ccp-unit 0 for link 0
(protocol: 0x80fd)
Dec  1 00:31:36 debian ipppd[604]: ccp_resetci!
Dec  1 00:31:36 debian ipppd[604]: Kernel check for LZS failed

PING 209.207.224.40 (209.207.224.40): 56 data bytes
--- 209.207.224.40 ping statistics ---
11 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

output from ipppstats when doing ping
in   pack   comp uncomperr  |out   pack   comp uncomp ip

 0629  0  0  0  |  0631  0  0631

 0  3  0  0  0  |  0  3  0  0  3

Tom Cato


Exim error? [FW: Mail delivery failed:]

1999-12-01 Thread J Horacio MG
I'm having trouble with one user's mail.  Anyone sending a mail to her
address gets an error message like the one below.

This has been going on ever since I installed the latest versions (potato) 
of xfmail (which by the way, is behaving strangely, but that's another story)


TIA

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 X-Failed-Recipients: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:54:17 +0100
 X-UIDL: 41758fe8b24c0067200033eba7771a4e
 
 This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
 
 A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. The
 following address(es) failed:
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 generated |exec /usr/bin/procmail #escarlata
 
 The following text was generated during the delivery attempt:
 
 -- |exec /usr/bin/procmail #escarlata --
 
 procmail: Error while writing to /home/escarlata/Mail/log/procmail.log
 
 -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. --
 
 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Bug#51668: imap 4.7 introduces login failure

1999-12-01 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Matthew Eaton wrote:

 Package: imap
 Version: 4.7-1
 
 With the new imapd 4.7, it no longer authenticates correctly. All the
 other services still work fine, but imap 4.7 no longer authenticates
 users, all logins are failures.
 
 Let me know if there's anything else I can try.
 
 Running the latest tator on an i586 (2.2.13)
 Matt
 

I'm Ccing Marcin because he has the exact same problem.  The thing is I
have the exact same setup as the both of you and I'm not getting this
problem.  Matt do you also have an /etc/cram-md5.pwd file?  If so are the
permissions 0400/root/root? To both of you, I ask that you do an strace of
the imapd process while it is attempting to authenticate and send me the
output.  Meanwhile I'll do some more research on this.


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keyboard mapping

1999-12-01 Thread Nathan York
some how during an upgrade to potato my keymap got set to a azerty type
keyboardthis means it thinks i have a kb with azerty as the first six
letters in my upper left hand cornerhow do i go about switching it to
a qwerty keymap


craz










bind TTL problem

1999-12-01 Thread aphro
im really not sure what is causing this ..i just added 2 new domains to my
named and both of them the system says:

Zone shadowsystem.com (file primary/db.shadowsystem.com): No default TTL
set using SOA minimum instead
master zone shadowsystem.com (IN) loaded (serial 199911303)
Zone shadowsystem.net (file primary/db.shadowsystem.net): No default TTL
set using SOA minimum instead
master zone shadowsystem.net (IN) loaded (serial 199911302)


I believe i set them up like all the others only these 2 cause trouble(but
they still load at least)  both the headings of the database files are
identical:

@   IN SOA ns1.firetrail.com. hostmaster.mail.firetrail.com. (
199911303   ; Serial (mmddnn)
10800   ; refresh - 3yr
3600; retry - 1hr
604800  ; expire - 1 week
86400 ) ; min TTL - 1 day

i dont get why bind is saying there is no TTL  ..anyone have any ideas?

TIA!

nate

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Re: storm linux?

1999-12-01 Thread Mary Honeycutt
aphro wrote:
 
 On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Nathan York wrote:
 
 craz what do you all think of the stormix distribution, it is based off of 
 the
 craz deb packages..  any opinions, i was thinking of putting it on one of my
 craz boxes.
 
 i'm always up for a new distro, esp if its easy..corel took about 30mins
 to install..is stormix out of beta yet ?  Im not too ready to play around
 with alphas/betas ..is stormix based on slink or potato ?
 
Stormix is currently at beta-4.  It's slink based, with upgraded KDE,
Gnome/E, 
and XFree86 packages.  Install program is very good, but, has normal
beta type
glitches.  Their SAS program works very well also.

MaryK


Re: RAID trouble with SMP kernels

1999-12-01 Thread aphro
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote:

ssahme Are you saying that SMP kernels should not be compiled with a gcc other
ssahme than version 2.7.2.3 ?

im just echoing the people on the list, linus, alan, and others..thats
what they say..i had big probs with kernels (SMP) that was compiled with
2.95 

ssahme How about compiling a non-SMP kernel with gcc ver.  2.7.2.3 ?

same..avoid other compilers when compiling the kernel, one guy said the
code in the kernel is so clean and fast using a optimized compiler wouldnt
help much anyways.

ssahme I posted a similar query about compiling a 2.2.10 kernel with gcc-2.95.2
ssahme on this list, and the unanimous response I got (both on the list and via
ssahme email) was to go ahead and use gcc-2.95.2 without thinking twice about
ssahme it.

ask the linux-kernel mailing list and you will prob get the opposite, read
kt.linuxcare.com they have a lot of info about what goes on, really useful
information.

ssahme FWIW, I have been using a 2.2.13 kernel compiled with gcc-2.95.2 since
ssahme it first came out without any problems so far but then mine is a home
ssahme system not a production box that is up 24x7.

some things may work fine..i load test my machines before i deploy them,
my latest server was a k6-2 366 with 128MB and i ran 10x copies of
[EMAIL PROTECTED], ran it for about a day (6.8 million disk writes) no crash..if
it works..good, but if you encounter problems, the kernel hackers
reccomend compiling with 2.7.2.3 and see if u still get the problem.

again, im just echoing what i read on kernel traffic, im not a hacker and
cant speak from experience other then having kernels crash on me sometimes
with 2.9/2.8 gcc but fine under 2.7.2.3 (currently running 2.0.36 on my
main server with 103+ days uptime)

nate

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Re: staroffice, potato (patching the kernel)

1999-12-01 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 10:16:04PM -0800, aphro wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Eric G . Miller wrote:
 
 egm2 Well, I have potato with 2.2.13 and StarOffice working fine here. Any
 egm2 idea what the patch applies to? Perhaps I'm not using whatever it is
 egm2 that breaks it.
 
 from what i got off the mailing list (see kt.linuxcare.com) it had to do
 with the java part of SO, trying to access a non existant(and apparently
 undocumented) /proc file, then puking when it couldnt find it.  it may
 affect other parts of SO im not sure
 

Well, that might explain why I don't have a problem, since Java is not
enabled with my SO implementation (I didn't have any Java installed when
I installed SO, so the installer didn't enable it).  I was thinking of
reinstalling SO to try to enable the Java -- at least if I do so, I'll
have a clue why it'd start puking.

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Snafu

1999-12-01 Thread Ray Woodcock



I'm 
somewhere in the process of installing slink. There was an interruption 
during installation, I rebooted, etc. I guess I could wipe out the disk 
and start over, but I'd kind of like to understand where I am and 
why.

The 
system boots and reboots OK. I've been playing around with bash 
commands. Not all of the ones I read about on Web pages seem to be 
working. Now I want to run dbootstrap to configure my 
base system. But when I type dbootstrap at the $ prompt, I get "command 
not found." I go to the root (or whatever you call /) and type "find 
dbootstrap," but that just gives me "no such file or 
directory."

Anybody know where I am and where I should be 
going? Or is it time to use a blunt instrument on this 
installation?


Re: keyboard mapping

1999-12-01 Thread Nathan York
sorry for the grief.
i had to do a kbdconfing, rename the file it put in /etc/kbd/
to defualt.map.gz
then i had to run keytab-lilo.pl /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.kmap.gz
 /boot/kbd.us

then i had to add a line in lilo.conf:
keytable = /boot/kbd.us

so my problem is now fixed

craz

 some how during an upgrade to potato my keymap got set to a azerty type
 keyboardthis means it thinks i have a kb with azerty as the first six
 letters in my upper left hand cornerhow do i go about switching it to
 a qwerty keymap
 
 
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Re: bind TTL problem

1999-12-01 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya nate

Add the following BEFORE your soa record below

$TTL1
@   IN SOA ns1.firetrail.com. hostmaster.mail.firetrail.com. (
blah blah...

have fun
alvin

 im really not sure what is causing this ..i just added 2 new domains to my
 named and both of them the system says:
 
 Zone shadowsystem.com (file primary/db.shadowsystem.com): No default TTL
 set using SOA minimum instead
 master zone shadowsystem.com (IN) loaded (serial 199911303)
 Zone shadowsystem.net (file primary/db.shadowsystem.net): No default TTL
 set using SOA minimum instead
 master zone shadowsystem.net (IN) loaded (serial 199911302)
 
 
 I believe i set them up like all the others only these 2 cause trouble(but
 they still load at least)  both the headings of the database files are
 identical:
 
 @   IN SOA ns1.firetrail.com. hostmaster.mail.firetrail.com. (
 199911303   ; Serial (mmddnn)
 10800   ; refresh - 3yr
 3600; retry - 1hr
 604800  ; expire - 1 week
 86400 ) ; min TTL - 1 day
 
 i dont get why bind is saying there is no TTL  ..anyone have any ideas?
 
 TIA!
 
 nate
 
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Re: bind TTL problem

1999-12-01 Thread Iain Lamb
Try adding a value like this to the top of your zone files:

$TTL TTL value

a note from the isc states - 

(http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/docs/config_hints.html) 

config hints for bind 8.2.2:

In BIND 8.2.1, the TTL value in the SOA record now applies to negative
responses only. Add a line $TTL TTL value at the beginning of the
zone file, before the SOA.

cheers,

/iain

aphro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i dont get why bind is saying there is no TTL  ..anyone have any ideas?


Tape problems

1999-12-01 Thread Matthew Vernon
please Cc me
Hi,

my tape drive is causing problems. It worked fine on a
previous kernel version, but under my current one, it refuses to
co-operate (2.3.13). It's a SCSI tape drive, and responds to SCSI:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:# scsiinfo -i /dev/nst0

Inquiry command
---
snip
Vendor:HP  
Product:   T20 
Revision level:3.010027

But mt fails (as do all other attempts to do something useful with the
drive):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home2/matthew# mt status -f /dev/nst0
mt: /dev/nst0: Input/output error

Any ideas, or do I need a new kernel? I've SCSI support compiled in
(not as a module), and the logs seem to produce no errors

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Re: How to savely copy a disk?

1999-12-01 Thread Xavier Drudis Ferran

I recently did something similar (although I didn't want all exactly equal for 
all partitions), and
found a mini-howto very useful. 

But I don't know where I got it. I think I found it either through the 
www.google.com or www.alltheweb.com 
search engines. I'll copy the first lines and contents here in case someone in 
the list needs to look for it and I'll 
send you a copy in a small attachment.

+-+-+-+-+-+
   Hard Disk Upgrade Mini How-To
  
By Yves Bellefeuille [EMAIL PROTECTED],
and Konrad Hinsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   v2.1, 20 October 1999
 _
   
   How to copy a Linux system from one hard disk to another
 _
   
   1. Install both disks on your system
   2. Unmount non-Linux partitions and network drives
   3. Partition the new disk
   4. Format the new disk
   5. Mount the new disk
   6. Copy the files from the old disk to the new disk
   7. Modify /new-disk/etc/fstab as appropriate
   8. Prepare LILO to boot the new disk
   9. Make a boot diskette (optional)
   10. Remove the old disk

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kernel upgrade

1999-12-01 Thread byoung
hi,

i'm sure many of you have already done this (or so i hope).  For various
reasons, i need to go to kernel 2.2.  I am wondering what packages I
must upgrade in order to use 2.2?  The packages currently installed are
the predefined comprehensive developers set in debian 2.1 (what
was the nick name?) distribution.

also, same question for moving onto glib 2.1.

thanx for any info,

byoung


Re: Tape problems

1999-12-01 Thread Gareth
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 03:13:29AM +, Matthew Vernon wrote:
   my tape drive is causing problems. It worked fine on a
 previous kernel version, but under my current one, it refuses to
 co-operate (2.3.13). It's a SCSI tape drive, and responds to SCSI:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home2/matthew# mt status -f /dev/nst0
 mt: /dev/nst0: Input/output error
 Any ideas, or do I need a new kernel? I've SCSI support compiled in
 (not as a module), and the logs seem to produce no errors

I just realised I am having the same problem..
HP-DAT8
2.2.13 SCSI support (not as module)

No errors except form mt  and even then they are not consistent.
(sometime it gives error and sometimes it dosen't)


What is going on?

---Gareth


Re: Clock problems

1999-12-01 Thread Keith Harbaugh
On Mon, 1999-11-29 at 15:28:57 -0600, Marc Mongeon wrote:

 I think this is caused by the file /etc/adjtime, which is supposed to
 adjust for clock drift, but gets skewed when you first set the hard-
 ware clock.  Remove the file, then re-set the clock.  It will be re-
 created as needed.
 
 Marc
 
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  Timothy Bedding [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/29 3:05 PM 
 I am having problems with the clock losing time after
 I have shut my system down overnight.
 
 Is this to be expected?
 
 I thought that there would some way round this.
 Or is the only way simply to keep the machine running
 all the time?
 
 Cordially
 Tim
 

Yes, but as well you *must* comment out the line in /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh
which starts
   hwclock --adjust

See also bug report 41263.

Keith


compile with -lshadow

1999-12-01 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
What package do I need in order to be able to compile
with the option:
-lshadow

Thanks
Shao.

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Re: /etc/profile

1999-12-01 Thread Fish Smith
I knew that, technically speaking. =]  In all my
~/.profiles I had the semicolons, but when I switched
all my functions to a centralized location I kinda
forgot. oops.
Okay, eine neue frage, bitte. What's the deal with
/etc/rc.boot
I put a script in there that looks more or less
identical to the other scripts already there, but when
I boot up I get a syntax error.

PATH=/sbin

modprobe sound
insmod uart401
insmod sb io=0x200 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=-1
insmod mpu401 io=0x330
insmod opl3 io=0x388
insmod v_midi

This is the same script I run as root to configure my
sound card modules.
It seems like all the other scripts in /etc/rc.boot
use #!/bin/sh as the first line, however is this not a
comment?





A long time a ago, in a galaxy far far away, ein
Deutschlander hat das geshreibt:

 The function definitions have to end with a
 semicolon, e.g.
 
   l() { dir $*|less; }
 
 Otherwise, the } (and everything that follows) is
 considered a part
 of the function definition, and therefore the file
 ends before the
 definition ends. :)
 
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Re: compile with -lshadow

1999-12-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 02:54:02PM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote:
 Hi,
   What package do I need in order to be able to compile
   with the option:
   -lshadow

Shadow functions are built into glibc, so you don't need this library.

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mib.txt

1999-12-01 Thread Marc-Adrian Napoli
hi all.

i've posted this message to the mrtg mailing list as well, in case any of
you are seeing it twice.

i have the CMU SNMP package installed on a 2.0 debian box.

i can see the TUBS section within the mib.txt, however when i browse the
machine with getif, i can't see any additional OID values that i could
monitor (for disk usage etc).

any ideas on how i get access to those snmp values?

Regards,

Marc-Adrian Napoli
Connect Infobahn Australia
+61 2 92811750


How do I upgrade to the new software RAID?

1999-12-01 Thread Scott Thomson
Hi
I am running Debian 2.1 with Linux 2.2.12 and the old software RAID in
personality 5. I've been told I should upgrade to the new RAID to take
advantage of autodetect and persistant superblock, etc, especially since
the root parition is a md. 
What is the best procedure to upgrade? 
I am prepared to compile any kernel (even 2.0.x is it is best), and apply
any patches. 
Do I need to compile raidtools2 against libc2.0, or should I get libc2.1
and just install the raidtools2 deb?

Thanks in advance.

Scott Thomson


Masquerade-envelope with exim?

1999-12-01 Thread John Dalbec
How do I do the equivalent of FEATURE(masquerade_envelope) in exim?
How do I masquerade the sender name?
I'm using the sample rewrite with bcrfF.
Thanks,
John


Re: /etc/profile

1999-12-01 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 08:29:12PM -0800, Fish Smith wrote:
 PATH=/sbin
 
 modprobe sound
 insmod uart401
 insmod sb io=0x200 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=-1
 insmod mpu401 io=0x330
 insmod opl3 io=0x388
 insmod v_midi
 
 This is the same script I run as root to configure my
 sound card modules.
 It seems like all the other scripts in /etc/rc.boot
 use #!/bin/sh as the first line, however is this not a
 comment?

#!/bin/sh is *not* a comment, it automagically interpreted that the file
is a Bourne Shell compatible script (as opposed to bash, or whatever).

However, you should put all of that info in [possibly] two places.

/etc/modutils/aliases 
(for options sb io=0x200 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=-1, etc. )

use 'update-modules' to update (conf.modules or modules.conf)

/etc/modules
with the name of the modules to load

If you want autoloading the first line should say 'auto',
if you want modules always loaded, don't have an 'auto' line
and just list the names of the modules (sound,etc...).

Depending on Debian version, I think rc.boot is being phased out in
favor of /etc/rcS.d with links to /etc/init.d following the /etc/rcN.d
standard (SYSV ?).

Also, on my system modprobe is a link to insmod (however, it seems to
check how it was called and behaves differently. For instance, modprobe
sound just executes and exits, while insmod sound complains that
sound.o is already loaded). If you have the proper dependencies set-up
and alias sound sb, then probably modprobing sound should load all of
those modules (not sure -- don't have soundblaster).

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Re: Snafu

1999-12-01 Thread John Miskinis

Hello,


The system boots and reboots OK.  I've been playing around with bash
commands.  Not all of the ones I read about on Web pages seem to be
working.  Now I want to run dbootstrap to configure my base system.  But
when I type dbootstrap at the $ prompt, I get command not found.  I go
to the root (or whatever you call /) and type find dbootstrap, but
that just gives me no such file or directory.

Anybody know where I am and where I should be going?  Or is it time to
use a blunt instrument on this installation?


I've been running debian for months, and never heard of the
dbootstrap program.  Perhaps others can elaborate, as it may
be a transient (and temporary) file only used during the install.
I checked MY system, with the command listed below, and it does
not exist anywhere on my system.

find / -name dbootstrap -print

As far as commands in general, depending on what command you are
trying to execute, it may or may not exist in the base system
provided by a linux distribution.  In the case of Debian, it is
a simple matter to install the correct package that supplies the
command.  If you post some of the commands you are trying, more
information can be provided.

If you are executing standard commands, and they are failing, I
would suggest a re-install, which in my opinion is what I would do
anyway.  Again, I'm not familiar with the details of the interruption
of the install you mentioned.

In any case, I would reccomend posting more detail about your
situation.  There are many friendly people on this list with open
ears.

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badblocks, e2fsck, and disk error

1999-12-01 Thread Nagilum
Hello.  I started getting a disk error on my Maxtor 17.2 GB disk tonight.
It's been running fine for over 2 months, and my current uptime is 63 days
with no apparent disk problems.

Here's how I have my disk partitioned:

Filesystem 1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hda215885614 2988782  12069945 20%   /
/dev/hda1  146076293 7560 45%   /boot
/dev/hda3 208349  14751750072 75%
/usr/local/squid/cache

I was actually playing an MP3 when it (the mp3) stopped, at which point
this appeared in my syslog:

Dec  1 01:50:01 kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Dec  1 01:50:01 kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=32357292, sector=32327053 
Dec  1 01:50:01 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02 (hda),
sector 32327053

Those lines appeared 3 times, as though it was re-trying (and continuing
to fail to read) the file.

Anyway, I went to single-user mode, unmounted all the disks, and
re-mounted the root partition as read-only.

Then I ran e2fsck -c /dev/hda2, which -- while scanning for bad blocks --
produced an error corresponding to what you see in the syslog excerpt
above.

It re-scanned the disk with a Dupe/bad block pass and found blocks that
appeared to be duplicates.  It said the inode # for the mp3 was shared
with inode #1, the bad blocks inode.  I'm not sure what this means; does
that indicate that the bad blocks list is stored in inode #1?

At any rate, it asked me if I wanted to clone the blocks.  I wasn't sure
what to answer, and the default was Yes, so I chose yes.  After a few
seconds, I got the same error as before, and I was asked if I wanted to
ignore the error.  The default was Yes, but this time I chose No.  It then
did a few more things (which I can't remember, and couldn't copy/paste
since gpm wasn't running) and wrote a few more lines of output.  When all
this was done, I re-mounted all my disks.

I then tried to play that mp3 again, and unfortunately, I'm right back
where I started.  :-\

At which point did I make the wrong choice?  Is inode #1 where the bad
blocks list is stored?  Any theories on how an inode can become shared
between two different files?  And does a duplicate block qualify as a
bad block, or is this a non-defect? 

Appreciate the help!  This is my first disk failure under *nix so I'm a
little uncertain of how to approach it.  :)



Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-01 Thread Richard Stallman
++ Enables convergence towards Linux Standard Base (LSB)

Reducing incompatibility between the variants of the GNU operating
system that use Linux as the kernel is a useful job.  The GNU Project
would be happy to cooperate with other people on this, if they
approach us in a cooperative spirit respecting what we've done.
However, the Linux Standards Base decided to standardize the GNU
system as if the GNU Project had nothing to do with it.

They have a right to do that if they wish.  GNU is free software, and
that means people have the right to make their own versions without
even consulting us.  But that's not a friendly approach, so we are not
going to treat their choices as standards to be followed.

If a good idea comes from the LSB, we won't reject it for that.  It
would be childish to reject a good idea just because of who proposed
it.  But we will not adopt it *because* of the LSB's decision.






Re: bind TTL problem

1999-12-01 Thread aphro
thanks! ill try it out, i still find it odd that it did this for only 2
domains ...these may be the only 2 since i upgraded bind, but i got about
55 others that do not give this error..i suppose i should change all them
as well and add the $TTL at the top of the file as well..

thanks again both iain and alvin!

been playin with beos the past few hours, fancy system..

nate

On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Iain Lamb wrote:

sephoq Try adding a value like this to the top of your zone files:
sephoq 
sephoq $TTL TTL value
sephoq 
sephoq a note from the isc states - 
sephoq 
sephoq (http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/docs/config_hints.html) 
sephoq 
sephoq config hints for bind 8.2.2:
sephoq 
sephoq In BIND 8.2.1, the TTL value in the SOA record now applies to negative
sephoq responses only. Add a line $TTL TTL value at the beginning of the
sephoq zone file, before the SOA.
sephoq 
sephoq cheers,
sephoq 
sephoq /iain
sephoq 
sephoq aphro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sephoq 
sephoq i dont get why bind is saying there is no TTL  ..anyone have any ideas?
sephoq 

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please help with info on stable to unstable upgrade (partitions,LILO etc)

1999-12-01 Thread Robert J. Alexander
I have a Debian stable system doing quite a lot of stuff
(DNS,SMTP,POP3,HTTP,Netscape roaming server, rsync mirror of Debian
unstable, lpr server, INN news server, FTP server etc etc).

Now I started adding quite a lot of packages from unstable but I am
starting to have a messed up situation.

I would like to install an unstable on the same machine keeping the
possibility of switching back to the semi-stable version if I run into
big problems to avoid long disservice to my users.

Now, could I use the unstable floppies to install the system on a
different root partition but share the same /var, /home, /tmp
filesystems ?? With which LILO syntax ??? BTW the packages if unstable
are already pn my current /home filesystem and I could hopefully install
from there 

See below for the current partitioning and LILO setup.

Thank you very very much. Eagerly waiting for some good reassurance and
guidance I wish you all the best. Bob Alexander

My HDs are partitioned as follows:

Filesystem  1K-blo  Capac   mountpoint
/dev/sda1792800 40% /
/dev/sda2  7776 21% /boot   --- probably stupid since / is  
1024cyl
boundary
/dev/sda5   3958767  0% /proxy  --- currently not used
/dev/sdb5 31046  0% /tmp
/dev/sdb6295474 22% /var
/dev/sdb7   8117851 31% /home   --- /home/debian has a mirror of Debian
unstable


I currently boot from LILO off /dev/sda and currently goes:
boot=/dev/sda
root=/dev/sda1
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
image=/vmlinux
label=LinuxStable2.2.13
read-only
append0mem=127M


How to change the background highlight in Netscape searches ????

1999-12-01 Thread Robert J. Alexander
When I do a Find in page on a Netscape page, the found term is
highlighted by a change in the background colour which is almost
invisible.
I would like the background of found terms to become RED for all of my
users  

Which X11/Netscape file should I tweak ?

Thank you very much. Bob Alexander


cannot kill xcdroast

1999-12-01 Thread Alberto Maurizi

I have a problem with xcdroast. It runs into problems
when mounting a disk partition for writing the cd image.
From that moment I cannot umount that partition (umount
/dev/sda3 hangs the terminal (no Ctrl-C, no Ctrl-Z ...)),
and it's impossible to kill xcdroast (with kill -9).
Any idea? Any solution?

Alberto Maurizi


Network Printer

1999-12-01 Thread Petru NOTINGHER


Hello.
I have a stand-alone network printer (Xerox NC 60 PS3) and try to use
it with Debian potato.
When Isend a job to the printer via the printing daemon (lpr),
everything seems normal,
I mean the job is removed and I got no error messages, but the printer
prints nothing.
Now, I tried both Lprng an lpd, the result is the same. With lprng,
I sometimes got
the message "Nothing to print", but usually everything happens as the
job had been printed.
The jobs are however correctly printed with rlpr -H on the remote
printer...
Does anybody know the reason of my trouble ? Could it be linked to KDE's
"HP Laserjet utility" ?
Before installing KDE, I had the same printcap files, and everything
worked fine.
Help !

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disk error at scheduled time

1999-12-01 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi,

I'm having a strange problem here (ok, maybe it's not a real
problem, yet). Every day (at least for the last two), I'm having a SCSI
disk error entry in my kern.log, occurring at 6:25 am. 
Yes, only at this exact time I'm having problems. 
I ran 45+ kernel compilations yesterday to test the machine and
no error was triggered. BTW, I got 6m25s for 2 make bzImage running in
parallel and about 6m3s for 1 make bzImage alone. 
The machine is a dual pentium III 500MHz, w/ 256MB, 9.1GB SCSI
Seagate disk. It has a fresh potato installation, updated almost daily.
This is the excerpt from syslog:
---
Nov 30 05:53:35 servidor -- MARK --
Nov 30 06:02:01 servidor /USR/SBIN/CRON[18280]: (root) CMD (nice -n10 
/usr/bin/logcheck.sh)
Nov 30 06:08:01 servidor /USR/SBIN/CRON[18301]: (mail) CMD (  if [ -x 
/usr/sbin/exim ]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q /dev/null 21; fi)
Nov 30 06:25:01 servidor /USR/SBIN/CRON[18304]: (root) CMD (test -e 
/usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily)
Nov 30 06:25:11 servidor kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 
return code = 2
Nov 30 06:25:11 servidor kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:05, sector 1070272
--
Dec  1 05:53:35 servidor -- MARK --
Dec  1 06:02:01 servidor /USR/SBIN/CRON[13724]: (root) CMD (nice -n10 
/usr/bin/logcheck.sh)
Dec  1 06:08:01 servidor /USR/SBIN/CRON[13745]: (mail) CMD (  if [ -x 
/usr/sbin/exim ]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q /dev/null 21; fi)
Dec  1 06:25:01 servidor /USR/SBIN/CRON[13748]: (root) CMD (test -e 
/usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily)
Dec  1 06:25:19 servidor kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 
return code = 2
Dec  1 06:25:19 servidor kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 131614



Any help is welcome.

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Re: Xlib / imake

1999-12-01 Thread Martin Waller

Hi all,
 I'm working my way through the O'Reilly Xlib book for something to do 
at

work
and I've hit a problem.
 If I try and build the first basicwin.c file using

 $gcc -g -owin basicwin.c -lXlib



Try adding -L/usr/X11R6/lib to the command line before -l and using -lX11 
instead of -lXlib.





I get

 ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory

and if I try and build O'Reilly's example file usin imake I get a


Take a look at autoconf/automake instead of Imake:

ftp://ftp.ugcs.caltech.edu/pub/elef/autotools/toolsmanual.html

Quite a good example to get simple progs working here.

HTH

Martin

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Setting up PPP on Debian

1999-12-01 Thread Denis J. Cirulis
Hello !

I'm a little new to Debian and i want to setup dialup client on Linux to make a 
dialup connection to my workplace
What is the easyest way to make this connection

I don't want to make it from X using something like KPPP or similar. Simple 
script based connection .

Is there any good guide to read and teach myself to make a PPP client [ 
excluding PPP-HOWTO ] ?

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Problems with Asus P2B-DS/350 and double PIII 450

1999-12-01 Thread Enrico Zini
Hello!

I have a dual Pentium III 450 system with an Asus P2B-DS/350 main board,
in which I removed everything but the floppy drive and the IDE CD-Rom,
master on the second channel.

The standard Debian boot disk hangs probing the Adaptec SCSI card bundled
in the main board; I tried making custom boot kernels with 2.2.13 and
everything hangs asking if I have a color monitor.

I'm trying to build the smallest possible 2.2.13 boot kernel for that
server, but I have no idea what could be the cause.

Is there some boot problem HOWTO or some other source of information about
problems booting linux or hardware problems with Linux in general? Windows
NT boots, installs and seems to work fine.

Is there some known problem with Linux and this Asus mainboard, or with
double Pentium III?

TIA, Enrico



disk error at scheduled time

1999-12-01 Thread Martyn Pearce

Mario Olimpio de Menezes writes:
| Hi,
| 
|   I'm having a strange problem here (ok, maybe it's not a real
| problem, yet). Every day (at least for the last two), I'm having a SCSI
| disk error entry in my kern.log, occurring at 6:25 am. 
|   Yes, only at this exact time I'm having problems. 
|   I ran 45+ kernel compilations yesterday to test the machine and
| no error was triggered. BTW, I got 6m25s for 2 make bzImage running in
| parallel and about 6m3s for 1 make bzImage alone. 

Sounds suspiciously like some cronned process is tripping over a bad
point in the disk.  umount all partitions on the disk, fsck them.  If
it's your only disk, that'll require a floppy boot.

Mx.


Re: disk error at scheduled time

1999-12-01 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On 1 Dec 1999, Martyn Pearce wrote:

 
 Mario Olimpio de Menezes writes:
 | Hi,
 | 
 | I'm having a strange problem here (ok, maybe it's not a real
 | problem, yet). Every day (at least for the last two), I'm having a SCSI
 | disk error entry in my kern.log, occurring at 6:25 am. 
 | Yes, only at this exact time I'm having problems. 
 | I ran 45+ kernel compilations yesterday to test the machine and
 | no error was triggered. BTW, I got 6m25s for 2 make bzImage running in
 | parallel and about 6m3s for 1 make bzImage alone. 
 
 Sounds suspiciously like some cronned process is tripping over a bad
 point in the disk.  umount all partitions on the disk, fsck them.  If
 it's your only disk, that'll require a floppy boot.

Hi,

I forgot to say that I already did this: went to single mode (init
1), then ran: mount -t ext2 -r -o remount,ro /dev/sdaX /mount-point
Then, e2fsck -c /dev/sdaX

Well, no badblocks, no problem at all in the whole disk.
Where/what should I look for now?

Thanks,

[]s,
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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
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Re: Help on modules please

1999-12-01 Thread Neil D. Roberts
Hi Marc;

Thank you very much for this help. I have the following configuration
right now,
and when I did modprobe ne, modprobe ne0, modprobe ne1, modprobe 
ne2 I got absolutely no error messages in the kern.log or syslog.
Anyway, the problem arises when I am booting up the system. I get the
following message :

Calculating module dependencies... done.
Loading modules: ne0 can't locate module ne0
ne1 can't locate module ne1


 /etc/conf.modules:
 
 alias ne0 ne
 alias ne1 ne
 
 options ne0 io=0x320 irq=09
 options ne1 io=0x200 irq=03
 
 /etc/modules:
 
 ne0
 ne1
 
 In either case, after modifying conf.modules, try 'modprobe'-ing ne
 (or ne0, then ne1, then ne2), instead of just re-booting.  If it doesn't
 work, inspect /var/log/kern.log or /var/log/syslog for any relevant
 error messages.  Post these to the list.



Re: disk error at scheduled time

1999-12-01 Thread Martyn Pearce

Mario Olimpio de Menezes writes:
|   I forgot to say that I already did this: went to single mode (init
| 1), then ran: mount -t ext2 -r -o remount,ro /dev/sdaX /mount-point
|   Then, e2fsck -c /dev/sdaX
| 
|   Well, no badblocks, no problem at all in the whole disk.
|   Where/what should I look for now?

Interesting.  Where is this box located?  If at home, does your heating
switch on shortly before this time?  Anything on the same power supply
kicking in?  Is the machine permanently networked --- if so, is there
some network process occuring?

Mx.


FORGET WHAT I SAID

1999-12-01 Thread Neil D. Roberts
FORGET WHAT I SAID:

I'll start again. . .The configuration I have is the following:

/etc/conf.modules:

alias ne0 ne
alias ne1 ne

options ne0 io=0x320 irq=09
options ne1 io=0x200 irq=03

/etc/modules:

ne0
ne1

When I did modprobe ne, modprobe ne0, modprobe ne1, modprobe
ne2 I got absolutely no error messages in the kern.log or syslog.
Anyway, the problem arises when I am booting up the system. I get the
following message :

- 
Calculating module dependencies... done.
Loading modules: ne0 ne.c:v1.10 9/23/94 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x320: 00 44 4c 03 0a 5c
eth0: NE2000 found at 0x320, using IRQ 9.
ne1
Checking all file systems...
-

I presume that this means that it got the card, but, how do I make it
as eth1 ? Do I need to configure ifconfig ?


Re: disk error at scheduled time

1999-12-01 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On 1 Dec 1999, Martyn Pearce wrote:

 
 Mario Olimpio de Menezes writes:
 | I forgot to say that I already did this: went to single mode (init
 | 1), then ran: mount -t ext2 -r -o remount,ro /dev/sdaX /mount-point
 | Then, e2fsck -c /dev/sdaX
 | 
 | Well, no badblocks, no problem at all in the whole disk.
 | Where/what should I look for now?
 
 Interesting.  Where is this box located?  If at home, does your heating
 switch on shortly before this time?  Anything on the same power supply
 kicking in?  Is the machine permanently networked --- if so, is there
 some network process occuring?

Yes, it's interesting. 
The box is at work (here). I think the hardware (fan cooler, power supply,
etc) is OK. This is a new machine (arrived last friday Nov 26th). 

Yes, the machine is permanently networked but I can't say which other
processes are running at that exact time.

My main surprise is that under a high load -- lot of disk access, lot of
memory usage, lot cpu usage, the machine didn't present any kind of error.

I have no idea what is happening here!

Some help?

[]s,
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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
   http://www.revistalinux.com.br


Re: disk error at scheduled time

1999-12-01 Thread Martyn Pearce

Mario Olimpio de Menezes writes:
| Yes, it's interesting. 
| The box is at work (here). I think the hardware (fan cooler, power supply,
| etc) is OK. This is a new machine (arrived last friday Nov 26th). 
|   
| Yes, the machine is permanently networked but I can't say which other
| processes are running at that exact time.
| 
| My main surprise is that under a high load -- lot of disk access, lot of
| memory usage, lot cpu usage, the machine didn't present any kind of error.
| 
| I have no idea what is happening here!
| 
| Some help?

I'm running out of ideas.
Howsabout pulling the ethernet cable for a day?
Resetting the clock on the machine itself (to detect whether its the
machine or the environment)?
Unpowering the machine for 12 hours?

Mx.


Re: disk error at scheduled time

1999-12-01 Thread James Dietrich
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 09:33:51AM -0200, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
 On 1 Dec 1999, Martyn Pearce wrote:
 
  
  Mario Olimpio de Menezes writes:
  |   I forgot to say that I already did this: went to single mode (init
  | 1), then ran: mount -t ext2 -r -o remount,ro /dev/sdaX /mount-point
  |   Then, e2fsck -c /dev/sdaX
  | 
  |   Well, no badblocks, no problem at all in the whole disk.
  |   Where/what should I look for now?
  
  Interesting.  Where is this box located?  If at home, does your heating
  switch on shortly before this time?  Anything on the same power supply
  kicking in?  Is the machine permanently networked --- if so, is there
  some network process occuring?
 
 Yes, it's interesting. 
 The box is at work (here). I think the hardware (fan cooler, power supply,
 etc) is OK. This is a new machine (arrived last friday Nov 26th). 
   
 Yes, the machine is permanently networked but I can't say which other
 processes are running at that exact time.
 
 My main surprise is that under a high load -- lot of disk access, lot of
 memory usage, lot cpu usage, the machine didn't present any kind of error.
 
 I have no idea what is happening here!

Isn't 6:25 the time when cron.daily is run?  It is on my box, anyway.  I don't
know what about that could cause the disk errors, but that's the first thing I
thought of when I read your original message.  Perhaps you could manually run
each script that cron.daily runs.

HTH,

James


slink to potato upgrade procedure

1999-12-01 Thread Denis J. Cirulis
I downloaded a week old potato snapshot

binary-i386 and binary-all directories

what should i do now ? i don't want to upgrade every package manually. Is there 
any rules how can i use apt-get across my LAN
to upgrade distro automatically ?





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[UPDATE] Network Modules :

1999-12-01 Thread Neil D. Roberts
Hello all;

Here is a small update on what I have done so far, and what errors I'm
getting. I haven't slept much, since this has been eating my head inside
out. I have cut down from three network cards to just two of them. So,
the steps I would presumebly have to follow would be these :

1. Install Debian   Done
2. Configure Security   Done
3. Install kernel 2.2.x Pending
4. Install network cardsPending
5. Install ipmasq   Pending
6. Sleep over for a long time   Pending

Ok, Debian is installed properly, and I have so far one network card
installed correctly and working. This would be eth0 (0x320/09). Now, I
have to install the second ethernet card which would need to be eth1
(0x200/03). I have edited /etc/modules in the following manner:

---
# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
#
# This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are
# to be loaded at boot time, one per line.  Comments begin with
# a `#', and everything on the line after them are ignored.
# An entry named `auto' will cause the system to start kerneld
immediately.
# Kerneld then loads modules on demand. `noauto' disables kerneld
completely.

# auto
ne0
ne1
---

Ok, so far so good, once this was edited and saved, I went and edited
the file /etc/conf.modules in this way:

---
### This file is automatically generated by update-modules
#
# Please do not edit this file directly. If you want to change or add
# anything please take a look at the files in /etc/modutils and read
# the manpage for update-modules.
#
alias block-major-7 loop

# Uncomment the network protocols you don't want loaded:
# alias net-pf-2 off#   IPv4
alias net-pf-3 off
alias net-pf-4 off  # IPX
alias net-pf-5 off  # DDP / appletalk
alias net-pf-10 off # IPv6
# Other aliases:
alias net-pf-17 af_packet   # packet mode (tcpdump, etc.)

alias netalias-2 ip_alias
alias char-major-4 serial
alias char-major-10-130 softdog
alias iso9660 isofs
alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
alias ppp-compress-26 slhc
alias binfmt-0064 binfmt_aout
alias binfmt--310 binfmt_java

# If you use the IDE tape driver as a module, uncomment the next two
lines:
# alias block-major-3 ide-probe
# alias char-major-37 ide-tape

#alias whatever you don't have that kerneld complains about off 

alias ne0 ne
alias ne1 ne

options ne0 io=0x320 irq=09
options ne1 io=0x200 irq=03
path[boot]=/lib/modules

# State module paths in order of importance
path[fs]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`
path[net]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`
path[scsi]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`
path[block]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`
path[cdrom]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`
path[ipv4]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`
path[ipv6]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`
path[misc]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`
path[video]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`
path[sound]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`
path[fc4]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`

path[fs]=/lib/modules/`kernelversion`
path[net]=/lib/modules/`kernelversion`
path[scsi]=/lib/modules/`kernelversion`
path[block]=/lib/modules/`kernelversion`
path[cdrom]=/lib/modules/`kernelversion`
path[ipv4]=/lib/modules/`kernelversion`
path[ipv6]=/lib/modules/`kernelversion`
path[misc]=/lib/modules/`kernelversion`
path[video]=/lib/modules/`kernelversion`
path[sound]=/lib/modules/`kernelversion`
path[fc4]=/lib/modules/`kernelversion`

path[fs]=/lib/modules
path[net]=/lib/modules
path[scsi]=/lib/modules
path[block]=/lib/modules
path[cdrom]=/lib/modules
path[ipv4]=/lib/modules
path[ipv6]=/lib/modules
path[misc]=/lib/modules
path[video]=/lib/modules
path[sound]=/lib/modules
path[fc4]=/lib/modules

alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
---

Since this file is long, I'll point out what I have edited. What I
added was alias ne0 ne, alias ne1 ne, options ne0 io=0x320 irq=09,
options ne1 io=0x200 irq=03
path[boot]=/lib/modules . So far so good (I hope). Anyway, after
changing this, I went into /etc/modutils and edited a file called
modconf in the following way:

---
options ne io=0x320 irq=09
options ne io=0x200 irq=03
---

I just went into that file to see what there was, and I added the
bottom line in to see what would happen. Anyway, before doing anything
else, I edited the file called aliases, also in /etc/modutils , and this
is what it looked like:

---
alias 

Re: Athlon and debian

1999-12-01 Thread Jose L Gomez Dans
 i have installed an k7+debian system a week ago

I saw your message in the mailing lists's archive :)

 what i finally did was to obtain the 2.2.13 five first installation
 disks (rescue, root, 3 of drivers) from  the debian ftp site

I thought these boot stuff was being worked on... Oh, well, I'll
give it a try.

 nfs with other machine only avoided me having to make a lot of floppys 
 for the 2,2,13 kernel version, but i suppose it is not a necesity, 
 since you are able to make the lot of floopies that compose this instalation
 version

Basically, you put the base system floppies on the NFS server,
presumably with some of the drivers as well (or did you just reconfigure the
installation procedure so that the only drivers it would look for were the
ones in the three drivers disks you created?). Is this correct?

 simply, i imagine you can make the instalation floppies from the ftp 
 debian site , only selecting the last (stable) version

I don't understand this. Do you mean stable or unstable? The stable
version has a 2.0 kernel which won't like the Athlon. So. would I need to have
the stable disks and make them boot off an Athlon aware kernel? That is, get
the disks you mention in your message from unstable, and then  have the
installation procedure from stable. X-? I'm a bit confused.

Thanks a lot for your help, we'll see how it goes when it gets
delivered... :)

Jose
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RE: Problems with Asus P2B-DS/350 and double PIII 450

1999-12-01 Thread Paul McHale
I am pretty sure the Asus uses the standard Adaptec chipset which other have
reported as problematic with Debian.  Here is an excerpt from a previous
post I saved:

-
I've got an unofficial installation diskset for slink that's setup
specifically for the Adaptec SCSI controllers.  You can snarf it from
http://www.debian.org/~adric/aic7xxx/slink/5.1.19/.

Basically you'll need to boot from the diskette, but can then use the
CD as your installation media...
-

I think this might take care of the problem.  Please post if it does ...

paul

-Original Message-
From: Enrico Zini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 5:56 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Problems with Asus P2B-DS/350 and double PIII 450


Hello!

I have a dual Pentium III 450 system with an Asus P2B-DS/350 main board,
in which I removed everything but the floppy drive and the IDE CD-Rom,
master on the second channel.

The standard Debian boot disk hangs probing the Adaptec SCSI card bundled
in the main board; I tried making custom boot kernels with 2.2.13 and
everything hangs asking if I have a color monitor.

I'm trying to build the smallest possible 2.2.13 boot kernel for that
server, but I have no idea what could be the cause.

Is there some boot problem HOWTO or some other source of information about
problems booting linux or hardware problems with Linux in general? Windows
NT boots, installs and seems to work fine.

Is there some known problem with Linux and this Asus mainboard, or with
double Pentium III?

TIA, Enrico



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Kernel Version

1999-12-01 Thread Neil D. Roberts
Hello again from the kernel virgin man;

I was wondering what the hell to install from all of this. I suppose
that the docs would be the most important thing for me. But, do I need
all of these ?

kernel-doc-2.1.125 2.1.125-1   (675.6k) 
  Linux kernel specific documentation.

kernel-source-2.1.125 2.1.125-1   (12044.4k) 
  Linux kernel source.

kernel-source-2.2.1 2.2.1-1   (12915.9k) 
  Linux kernel source.

kernel-package 6.05   (120.2k) 
  Debian Linux kernel package build scripts.

In any case I have downloaded them. My goal is to install kernel
2.1.125-1, thats all :)

Thanks

Neil.


Re: Kernel Version

1999-12-01 Thread Tom Cato Amundsen
Neil D. Roberts wrote:

 Hello again from the kernel virgin man;


 I was wondering what the hell to install from all of this. I suppose
 that the docs would be the most important thing for me. But, do I need
 all of these ?

 kernel-doc-2.1.125 2.1.125-1   (675.6k)
   Linux kernel specific documentation.

This are old development version, you don't want to use this. If you want to use
development version of the kernel, use version 2.3.x.

I think what you really want is a stable 2.2.13. If you can't find it at
debians site try http://www.kernel.org



 kernel-source-2.1.125 2.1.125-1   (12044.4k)
   Linux kernel source.

 kernel-source-2.2.1 2.2.1-1   (12915.9k)
   Linux kernel source.


 kernel-package 6.05   (120.2k)
   Debian Linux kernel package build scripts.

 In any case I have downloaded them. My goal is to install kernel
 2.1.125-1, thats all :)

 Thanks

 Neil.

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Unmet dependencies

1999-12-01 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
After running apt-get update; apt-get -f dist-upgrade and downloading
tons, I got the following umet dependencies: (Says file 404 not found)
info 4.0-1
debian-policy 3.1.1.0
dnsutils 1:8.2.2p5-1
rcs 5.7-12
catdoc 0.91.2-2
libwww-perl 5.4-1
scwm 0.99.5.1-1
xdaliclock 2.14-3
xscreensaver-gl 3.21-2
 and a buch more.
So, it does not want to install anything, complains about the
dependencies. I've tried --fix-missing, and -f dist-upgrade. Same
result. What do you recommend? May be I need to add some other link that
I have missing in my sources.list? But then, it happened after running
update!!!
Thanks, Antonio.


Re: Unmet dependencies

1999-12-01 Thread James Dietrich
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 01:15:32PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
 After running apt-get update; apt-get -f dist-upgrade and downloading
 tons, I got the following umet dependencies: (Says file 404 not found)
 info 4.0-1
 debian-policy 3.1.1.0
 dnsutils 1:8.2.2p5-1
 rcs 5.7-12
 catdoc 0.91.2-2
 libwww-perl 5.4-1
 scwm 0.99.5.1-1
 xdaliclock 2.14-3
 xscreensaver-gl 3.21-2
  and a buch more.
 So, it does not want to install anything, complains about the
 dependencies. I've tried --fix-missing, and -f dist-upgrade. Same
 result. What do you recommend? May be I need to add some other link that
 I have missing in my sources.list? But then, it happened after running
 update!!!

I checked my version of info, and it is 4.0-2.  Same for debian-policy, I have
3.1.1.1 installed.

Try running update again, and then install.  The packages files are
regenerated every day.

HTH,
James


Re: same-gnome kills sawmill

1999-12-01 Thread Pedro Sanchez
Where did you get sawmill 0.17 from? I'm running Potato and the latest
available deb version is 0.16-1. Are you compiling that yourself?

--
Pedro

 Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote:
 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 02:26:46PM +,
 Pedro Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The following looks to me like a bug against sawmill: Launch the
 same
  gnome game and click the maximize button. This always logs me out
 of
  the gnome-session (which is my only command in .xsession) killing
 all
  other applications except communicator which has to be killed
 manually.
  This doesn't happen when running Enlightenment.
 
  Can you verify this?
 
 Just tried it, and I had no problems. I'm running October Gnome with
 Sawmill 0.17 (both latest). Maybe you should upgrade?
 
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Re: remote power on

1999-12-01 Thread David Wright
Quoting Rob Mahurin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 03:09:49AM +0100, luis wrote:
  
  (how) can i power on a remote machine (via internet) using a modem ?
  
 
 Wouldn't the machine have to be on to listen to the modem ring?  

Well I'm not sure if the (via internet) is meant to be significant.

If you have a modern machine on ethernet, you can turn it on with
a wake-up packet, but I don't know the details of how one generates
this packet.

So, in theory, I could dial in to this illustrious institution
and wake up my desktop machine (were I ever to turn it off).

Cheers,

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accton: Function not implemented error

1999-12-01 Thread Daniel

When trying to run accton, I get the error message: accton: Function not
implemented.  And ideas on what that means?


Problems with Asus P2B-DS/350 and double PIII 450

1999-12-01 Thread Felipe Alvarez Harnecker


I know that this would't help you but..


I got an ASUS P2B-D with both CPU. Every time I run X the system
crashes, even if i setup the kernel to use only one CPU.

I'm running an X server from other machine to log in, and that solved
my problem for the moment. ( Never crashed for months )

The kernel i'm using is 2.0.x



If you have success running Debian in your box, please send me a note.

Regards.

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Re: Setting up PPP on Debian

1999-12-01 Thread dyer
Denis J. Cirulis wrote:

 Hello !

 I'm a little new to Debian and i want to setup dialup client on Linux to make 
 a dialup connection to my workplace
 What is the easyest way to make this connection

 I don't want to make it from X using something like KPPP or similar. Simple 
 script based connection .

 Is there any good guide to read and teach myself to make a PPP client [ 
 excluding PPP-HOWTO ] ?


pppconfig (as root)

It will guide you through everything, then you use the pon, poff commands to 
connect, disconnect

HTH

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Re: Snafu

1999-12-01 Thread David Wright
Quoting Ray Woodcock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I'm somewhere in the process of installing slink.  There was an
 interruption during installation, I rebooted, etc.  I guess I could wipe
 out the disk and start over, but I'd kind of like to understand where I
 am and why.

The $64000 question is whereabouts were you at the interruption.
When you started the installation, you booted off the rescue disk.
Had you finished this program entirely? If not, then boot from this
disk again and follow the menus carefully.

Certain things will need repeating (configure kbd, activate swap)
and certain things won't (you don't need to initialise partitions
that you initialised previously) which is why there are all these
alternat(iv)e commands.

 The system boots and reboots OK.  I've been playing around with bash
 commands.  Not all of the ones I read about on Web pages seem to be
 working.  Now I want to run dbootstrap to configure my base system.

So it seems likely that you completed that program and got as far as
Reboot the system ? And you set a root password? And did you set
up the first user account? If so, login as user, type
/bin/su -
to make yourself root and now you can type
dselect

Does what you see now look familiar? If not, then it's likely that
dselect has never been run. The safest thing to do here is to press
return when it displays the package selection list and let it
install whatever it had in its default list. (This may or may not
have been modified if you got as far as answering the question
What sort of machine are you intending to run.)

Once dselect has installed it's first load of packages (after
which, for slink, the output from
dpkg -l | wc
should start with a number around 150) you can run dselect again
and pick and choose what packages you want.

 But
 when I type dbootstrap at the $ prompt, I get command not found.  I go
 to the root (or whatever you call /) and type find dbootstrap, but
 that just gives me no such file or directory.

A linux root directory shouldn't have any non-directories in it,
apart from a link to the kernel.

 Anybody know where I am and where I should be going?  Or is it time to
 use a blunt instrument on this installation?

This is not normally necessary. But it would have helped to know when
you were interrupted.

Cheers,

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LxA - linux appliances

1999-12-01 Thread Michael W. Shaffer
My apologies to those who have already seen this.
This subject was originally discussed on the 
debian-firewall list, but I though there might be 
some on the other lists who would be interested as 
well. I have arranged and posted the results of my 
experiments in building single floppy 'linux appliances' 
on a Debian system. I have posted a tarball with docs
and a working root filesystem that you can use to make 
your own LRA (Linux Routing Appliance). The url for 
everything is:

http://home.earthlink.net/~mwshaffer/lxa/index.html

I'll hopefully document and post a sample of a
LPA (Linux Printing Appliance) soon as well.


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Can libqt1g and libqt2 coexist?

1999-12-01 Thread Cyrus Patel

Hi all,

I've got kde.tdyc.com in my sources.list and currently have libqt1g installed.

However, I was playing around trying to compile some apps that need qt2 and
when I tryed to install libqt2 it asked to remove all my apps that use libqt1g 
and libqt1g itself.

Is there anyway I can have both installed on my boxen?

Thanks
Cyrus

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University of New South Wales   (Potato)
Sydney, Australia.  ICQ: 50738541



Re: Kernel Version

1999-12-01 Thread David Wright
Quoting Neil D. Roberts ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Hello again from the kernel virgin man;
 
   I was wondering what the hell to install from all of this. I suppose
 that the docs would be the most important thing for me. But, do I need
 all of these ?
 
 kernel-doc-2.1.125 2.1.125-1   (675.6k) 
   Linux kernel specific documentation.
 
 kernel-source-2.1.125 2.1.125-1   (12044.4k) 
   Linux kernel source.
 
 kernel-source-2.2.1 2.2.1-1   (12915.9k) 
   Linux kernel source.
 
 kernel-package 6.05   (120.2k) 
   Debian Linux kernel package build scripts.
 
   In any case I have downloaded them. My goal is to install kernel
 2.1.125-1, thats all :)

Assuming you're using slink, then you probably want 2.0.36 for a
quiet life. Don't use 2.1.x as they're development kernels.
You could move to 2.2.13 when you're happy with things.

The docs are included in the source, so you don't need the
-doc package. But you want the kernel-package to make it
much easier to compile kernals and make them into debian
packages.

Cheers,

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3c905 full-duplex

1999-12-01 Thread Igor Mozetic

Is there a way to force a 3com905B NIC into full-duplex mode
when the driver is NOT used as a module, but compiled into kernel?
I didn't find any appropriate kernel parameter ...

Becker's program returns:

vortex-diag.c:v1.09 7/28/99 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Index #1: Found a 3c905B Cyclone 100baseTx adapter at 0xe400.
...
Transceiver type in use:  Autonegotiate.
 MAC settings: half-duplex.
...

for Debian box on a full-duplex, 100Mbps Cisco switch.

-Igor Mozetic


RE: Can libqt1g and libqt2 coexist?

1999-12-01 Thread Pollywog

On 04-Dec-1999 Cyrus Patel wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've got kde.tdyc.com in my sources.list and currently have libqt1g
 installed.
 
 However, I was playing around trying to compile some apps that need qt2 and
 when I tryed to install libqt2 it asked to remove all my apps that use
 libqt1g 
 and libqt1g itself.
 
 Is there anyway I can have both installed on my boxen?

I don't know if it can be done if you installed from Debian packages, but I
have QT 1.44 and 2.0.1 installed from source and they coexist.  I have my
QTDIR variable pointing to /usr/local/qt-2.0.1  and I copied my QT 1.44 libs
to KDEDIR/lib to make KDE happy.  When I need to compile anything for KDE, I
just change my QTDIR temporarily and change it back after I compile.


I have only fake QT Debian packages installed.


--
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Re: hard drive not found

1999-12-01 Thread Kent West
Rick Dunnivan wrote:

 I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western
 digital hard drive.  When I boot up with my Debian cd,
 my hard drive is not found.  I see in the install
 documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not supported.
 How do I know if this is what I have?  This is the
 first time I've attempted to install an operating
 system of any kind, so be gentle.

 =
 rick

I'm certainly no hardware expert, but saying that a drive is an IDE-SCSI 
drive is
akin to saying that a person is a male-female person; they are mutually 
exclusive
(well, outside of New York City and a few other places, that is).

Most IDE drives should be recognized without any problem. SCSI drives may 
require a
custom kernel in order to be recognized (but usually this is because of the SCSI
controller, not the drive itself).

Your best bet is to get a screwdriver and open the case and physically look at 
what's
inside. While there, make notes of all your hardware: make and model # of the 
hard
drive, video card, sound card, SCSI card if it exists, etc. You'll need some of 
this
later in the installation. If you can't find a model number on some of the 
cards,
write down the important-looking numbers on some of the important looking 
chips; that
might provide enough of a clue when you get to the point of needing specifics.

Since this is your first time to install an OS, I might suggest that you take 
the
time and effort to install MS-DOS from scratch (manually - boot off an MS-DOS 
floppy
with fdisk.exe and format.com and then do an fdisk and a format C: /s) 
before
installing Debian. Then you can wipe out DOS and install Debian. The reason for 
this
is so you can get a minimal feel for the similarities/differences in basic
OS installations.

At any rate, you're embarking on a great learning adventure. Have fun! Be 
prepared
for frustrations, and for the feeling of accomplishment you'll get when you 
make it
through.



Re: [UPDATE] Network Modules :

1999-12-01 Thread David Wright
Quoting Neil D. Roberts ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Hello all;
 
   Here is a small update on what I have done so far, and what errors I'm
 getting. I haven't slept much, since this has been eating my head inside
 out. I have cut down from three network cards to just two of them. So,
 the steps I would presumebly have to follow would be these :
 
 1. Install Debian Done
 2. Configure Security Done
 3. Install kernel 2.2.x   Pending
 4. Install network cards  Pending
 5. Install ipmasq Pending
 6. Sleep over for a long time Pending
 
   Ok, Debian is installed properly, and I have so far one network card
 installed correctly and working. This would be eth0 (0x320/09). Now, I
 have to install the second ethernet card which would need to be eth1
 (0x200/03). I have edited /etc/modules in the following manner:
 
 ---
 # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
 #
 # This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are
 # to be loaded at boot time, one per line.  Comments begin with
 # a `#', and everything on the line after them are ignored.
 # An entry named `auto' will cause the system to start kerneld
 immediately.
 # Kerneld then loads modules on demand. `noauto' disables kerneld
 completely.
 
 # auto
 ne0
 ne1
 ---

I think you're on the wrong track here. If you look at Gerard
MacNeil's posting which seemed to follow the Ethernet-HOWTO
(which should be in your /usr/doc) you may have more success.
You only need one module which is aliased to eth0, eth1 etc.
The HOWTO example fortuitously happens to be for NE2000 cards.

Cheers,

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dselect apt-get dpkg explanations

1999-12-01 Thread Egbert Bouwman
Does anybody know about a really good explanation of the
combined use of dselect, apt-get and dpkg, especially
after you have made a mess of everything ?
The documentation I found in the slink distribution is
either introductory or incomplete or referring to each other or
to non-existent man pages.
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Re: hard drive not found

1999-12-01 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western digital hard
 drive.  When I boot up with my Debian cd, my hard drive is not found.

Ok.  Do you happen to know what hard drive you have?  I would not be
surprised if your problem is because the Debian boot floppy is based on an
ancient kernel.  Have you tried a boot floppy from a more recently
released distribution (like RedHat or SuSE)?

Also a tip: this is how IDE drives are mapped under Linux:

/dev/hda - the master drive on the primary controller
/dev/hdb - the slave drive on the primary controller
/dev/hdc - the master drive on the secondary controller
/dev/hdd - the slave drive on the secondary controller

If you see /dev/hdax (where x is a number), then that means partition x
on drive /dev/hda.  On most PCs today, /dev/hda is the hard drive, and
either /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd is the CD drive.

 I see in the install documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not
 supported.

I don't think that's your problem.  IDE-SCSI is used with IDE CD writers
so that they'll work properly under Linux, and little else.

This is from the documentation for the IDE-SCSI driver:

This will provide SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices, and
will allow you to use a SCSI device driver instead of a native ATAPI
driver.

This is useful if you have an ATAPI device for which no native driver has
been written (for example, an ATAPI PD-CD or CDR drive); you can then use
this emulation together with an appropriate SCSI device driver. In order
to do this, say Y here and to SCSI support and SCSI generic support,
below.

Note that this option does NOT allow you to attach SCSI devices to a box
that doesn't have a SCSI host adapter installed.

If both this SCSI emulation and native ATAPI support are compiled into the
kernel, the native support will be used.

 How do I know if this is what I have?  This is the first time I've
 attempted to install an operating system of any kind, so be gentle.

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Re: accton: Function not implemented error

1999-12-01 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 09:03:32AM -0500, Daniel wrote:
 When trying to run accton, I get the error message: accton: Function not
 implemented.  And ideas on what that means?
Probably that your kernel was compiled without BSD process accounting
(CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT in the kernel configuration file which is in
/boot/config.x.x.x for debian made kernels)

Nils

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Re: Problems with Asus P2B-DS/350 and double PIII 450

1999-12-01 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 Hello!
 
 I have a dual Pentium III 450 system with an Asus P2B-DS/350 main board,
 in which I removed everything but the floppy drive and the IDE CD-Rom,
 master on the second channel.
 
 The standard Debian boot disk hangs probing the Adaptec SCSI card bundled
 in the main board; I tried making custom boot kernels with 2.2.13 and
 everything hangs asking if I have a color monitor.

The standard boot disk hangs when the aic7xxx driver is probing, isn't
it?  It's a known problem; some alternative boot floppies (the Rescue
disk, and the Driver disk) are available here:

http://www.debian.org/~adric/aic7xxx/slink/5.1.19

[...]
 Is there some known problem with Linux and this Asus mainboard, or with
 double Pentium III?

With the Asus mainboard, no.  With a dual PIII, yes.  The standard kernel
included with Debian (2.0.36) has horrible support for dual anything.  
Immediately upgrading to the latest 2.2 (2.2.13 at this writing) is a
_very_ good idea.

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Re: 3c905 full-duplex

1999-12-01 Thread Sven Esbjerg
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 04:03:58PM +0100, Igor Mozetic wrote:
 
 Is there a way to force a 3com905B NIC into full-duplex mode
 when the driver is NOT used as a module, but compiled into kernel?
 I didn't find any appropriate kernel parameter ...

Download the driverdisks from 3Com or just number 3 out of 3. Run the
nic-configuration-program and set the nic to full duplex. 3Com cards cannot
use autosense with Donald Beckers drivers.


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Python

1999-12-01 Thread Blazej Sawionek
I installed:
python-base
  -doc
  -examples
  -misc
  -stdwin

When trying to execute scripts (eg. `wpi.py') I get the message: ImportError: 
No module named stdwin.

How can I deal with that? Anything else should be installed?

Blazej


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