Re: Consejos para comprar hard

1999-12-19 Thread Zuzen de la Cueva
On 18 Dec 99, at 12:31, Ignasi Modolell wrote:

 Un consejo:
 Píllate una tarjeta Ultra-SCSI soportada por Linux (una Tekram 390U es
 una opción barata, o cualquiera basada en un chipset SymBIOS saldrá bien de
 precio y será compatible); y compra un CDROM SCSI, un grabador SCSI y un
 Scanner SCSI, todo te funcionará mejor, y los Scanners SCSI son los mejor
 soportados.

Si ya me gustaría, pero mi actual presupuesto sólo me da para IDE :-(

Gracias por los consejos


RV: Configurar X windows con tarjeta S3 Savage3D

1999-12-19 Thread Miguel A. Abarca


-Mensaje original-
De: Miguel A. Abarca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: sábado, 18 de diciembre de 1999 11:24
Para: Lista Debian
Asunto: Configurar X windows con tarjeta S3 Savage3D


Pues eso que no consigo arrancar X windows después de generar el fichero
XF86Config. He instalado la versión 3.3.5 que decían tenía soporte para mi
tarjeta pero nada. Adjunto un fichero (x.log) con la salida por pantalla que
me genera el ordenador al hacer startx.
Agradecería si alguno de vosotros tiene esta tarjeta gráfica funcionando
bajo X windows, me pudiera enviar su fichero de configuración.

Lo siento, se me olvidó adjuntar el fichero, voila


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RE: apt-get en potato

1999-12-19 Thread Pookie
 He actualizado uno de mis ordenadores a potato. En el otro ordenador
 es donde almaceno los paquetes. El caso es que ahora, cuando hago un
apt-get
 update, me tarda un mazo en conectarse por ftp al ordenador que tiene los
 paquetes, mientras que si hago un ftp normal y corriente, lo hace al
 instante.

 ¿Posibles causas?


Ni idea, pero sinceramente, haz un apt-get al ftp de debian ;) sale mejor y
tienes los ultimos paquetes, yo lo hago y la verdad es que va la mar de bien
y estoy muy contento



Re: slink+gimp

1999-12-19 Thread Xose Manoel Ramos
El Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 05:11:52PM +, Jaime E. Villate contaba:

Te falta instalar los paquetes freefont y sharefont. Es que casi
todos los script-fu's usan fuentes que están en esos paquetes (blipo,
duncan, etc.)

 Freefont y Sharefont forman parte de la distribución 'non-free' que
 no se suele incluir en los CD's. Habrá que bajarselos de Internet.

 (Lo digo para que el pobre chicho no se vuelva loco buscando los
 paquetes por el CD).

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Re: slink+gimp

1999-12-19 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
Hola

A mi me ocurre lo mismo que a Jaime.

He buscado los paquetes que indicais y no los encuentro en main de slink.
¿donde estan?

saludos y gracias.

El 17 Dec 1999 a las 05:11PM +, Jaime E. Villate escribio:
 Jose Mari Mor i Fabregat:
  ... mi problema es que aunque he instalado todo lo que el paquete
  necesitaba o sugería, me da un error cuando intento gastar los scripts
  para hacer logos. El error es siempre el mismo, no encuentra las
  fuentes con las que se hacen estos.
  Después de mirar la doc, dice que tienes que instalar xfonts75 i
  xfonts100, y aunque los tengo instalados y funcionando Gimp no lo
  pilla.
 Te falta instalar los paquetes freefont y sharefont. Es que casi
 todos los script-fu's usan fuentes que están en esos paquetes (blipo,
 duncan, etc.)
 Instalalos y verás que funciona de maravilla.
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ip

1999-12-19 Thread luis

hello

a humble question: is possible to make a succesful telnet to an IP as
195.243.107.55 ?
if not, why ?

thanks a lot


Re: Monochrome XFIG

1999-12-19 Thread Riku Saikkonen
Pedro Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unfortunately this didn't solve my problem. I have all the files as you
describe but still xfig shows up in monochrome. By the way, this is
happenning in a fresh Potato install done about a month ago which I'm
upgrading to the latest every weekend. Xfig has never shown its colors.

Any other suggestions?

Hmm... Does the xlogo program show the X Window System logo in color
or monochrome? (The colors in the logo should be white and red.) It
uses the application default files XLogo and XLogo-color in the same
way as XFig.

You could try running XFig with xfig -xrm '*customization: -color',
just in case that helps. If it does, there is some sort of problem in
your X startup scripts - either /etc/X11/Xresources/xfree86-common is
not loaded, the X server does not define COLOR for some reason, or
there is another *customization resource set somewhere.

As a somewhat more brute force approach, you could also try creating
a file /tmp/Fig containing everything in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Fig _and_
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Fig-color, except for the #include
Fig line. Then try running XFig with the environment variable
XAPPLRESDIR set to /tmp/, that is, XAPPLRESDIR=/tmp/ xfig if you use
bash.

Which version of the Athena widget set (Xaw) do you use? (To find this
out, see which Xaw-related directory is listed first in
/etc/ld.so.conf. For me, it's /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d, since I use
xaw3d.) I think they all support color settings, but I'm not sure.

That's all I can think of for now. For what it's worth, XFig has
always worked in color for me, with most buttons being yellow, and so
on, without doing anything special...

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Re: problems with debian mirrors

1999-12-19 Thread Gregg Berkholtz
Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
 
 On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote:
 
  I have been getting these errors consistently for the past couple of
  days.
 
 Looks like your ISP has installed a 'transparent' HTTP proxy that is
 screwing up your connection.
 
 Jason
 
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I have problems like this sometimes too -- any ideas on how someone
might get around a transparent proxy or to force the proxy to update
itself. I dont have any control over the proxy.

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Re: problems with debian mirrors

1999-12-19 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Gregg Berkholtz wrote:

 I have problems like this sometimes too -- any ideas on how someone
 might get around a transparent proxy or to force the proxy to update
 itself. I dont have any control over the proxy.

No idea, I don't think you can - they are built so they cannot be
circumvented. Contact your ISP and complain - really, the vendors need to
get a clue and start actually implementing the RFCs.

If your proxy is *good* you can tell APT about it directly and APT will
set the proper HTTP/1.1 cache control headers to do expires and things.
But I know of no proxy that supports them yet. Again, call your ISP and
complain.

Jason


Re: problems with debian mirrors

1999-12-19 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote:

 I called up my ISP and asked them and they insisted (quite strongly I
 might add) that they are not running any kind of HTTP proxy at their
 end. I spoke to a couple of different techies and they both insisted
 that they aren't running any HTTP proxy.

Maybe their ISP is ? Here is a test - go to
http://gandalf.tausq.org/~randolph/debian/env.cgi 
And see what the REMOTE_ADDR field says, if it is not the address that
ifconfig reports you are being proxied.

Jason


Keyboard on console; and base files

1999-12-19 Thread Alan Eugene Davis
On my machine the keyboard  on the console is seriously deranged, so
that typing an a gets a q on the screen, and so on.  X11 is fine.  

In trying to upgrade, I am running into the base files message about
/etc/inputrc, but I have deleted the messages and cannot get onto the
archive since the mirrors haven't been updated.  What do I have to do?
I deleted /etc/inputrc---no dice, dpkg just still believes it is
there.  I removed the libreadlineg2 package, but when I ran apt-get
upgrade again, it installed it first, leaving the same error.

I also have to disable xdm.  Can I do this temporarily somehow, with a
config file?

Thanks again for help, many times...

Alan 

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Re: Keyboard on console; and base files

1999-12-19 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 11:48:32AM +1000, Alan Eugene Davis wrote:
 On my machine the keyboard  on the console is seriously deranged, so
 that typing an a gets a q on the screen, and so on.  X11 is fine.  

Run kbdconfig and choose the correct keyboard layout and language
(qwerty/US -- for instance). X uses it's own keyboard configuration.

 
 In trying to upgrade, I am running into the base files message about
 /etc/inputrc, but I have deleted the messages and cannot get onto the
 archive since the mirrors haven't been updated.  What do I have to do?
 I deleted /etc/inputrc---no dice, dpkg just still believes it is
 there.  I removed the libreadlineg2 package, but when I ran apt-get
 upgrade again, it installed it first, leaving the same error.

There's a bug post for this already. Either put base-files on hold until
it's fixed or use --force-overwrite with dpkg.

 
 I also have to disable xdm.  Can I do this temporarily somehow, with a
 config file?

Temporarily disable xdm...
update-rc.d -f xdm remove
/etc/init.d/xdm stop

Restore xdm
update-rc.d xdm defaults
/etc/init.d/xdm start


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Re: problems with debian mirrors

1999-12-19 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote:
 
 I pointed netscape to the URL you mentioned and it reports REMOTE_ADDR
 as being 209.250.153.18, so I guess I am being proxied. So what you are
 saying is that my ISP's provider is proxying their connections ? Is that
 the general idea ?

rameau{jgg}~/apt/build#host 209.250.153.18
Name: cache01.tor.pathcom.com
Address: 209.250.153.18

Considering your ISP is called pathcom.com I'd say their Tech support is
telling falsehoods to you, but that's just a guess : traceroute it and
see if it leaves their network.

Regrettably their proxy server refuses to give up its name to me so I
can't tell you who makes it.

If you set http_proxy to http://cache01.tor.pathcom.com:80/ then APT might
have better luck dealing with it.

How it works is they have a router that intercepts all traffic on port 80
and directs it to that machine, you can't advoid it. Typically this is
used to reduce bandwidth through forced caching, but it is starting to
become a means of content control too I've heard..

Jason




Re:

1999-12-19 Thread Robert L. Harris

Technically, its a distribution of the linux operationg system,
where a bunch of people got together and made their own way of 
packaging it.  Slackware, Redhat, Debian, etc all use the same
kernel, and most of the same tools, just packaged and 
distributed in different manners.

The link below will say alot though...

Robert

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 It is an operating system.  Go to the website for more details,
 
 http://www.debian.org/
 
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Re: problems with debian mirrors

1999-12-19 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote:
 
 Tried that. Didn't help. I converted the URIs in my
 /etc/apt/sources.list to use ftp instead of http and things are better
 now.

Which version of APT are you using? I tried your proxy with 0.3.15 and it
works fine. I actually fixed an error like you got (Bad header line) some
time ago.

 customers. Since about 2 weeks, I have noticed a slight but consistent
 reduction in their bandwidth. The best downloads that I can get now are
 at about 3.1-3.3K/s. Prior to that I was getting about 4.1K/s
 consistently.

Well, since all the web traffic is going through a single machine and not
a high speed router you will see that machine saturate if their usage is
too great - note it only effect HTTP on port 80.

Jason


Re: ip

1999-12-19 Thread ktb
luis wrote:
 
 hello
 
 a humble question: is possible to make a succesful telnet to an IP as
 195.243.107.55 ?
 if not, why ?
 
 thanks a lot

Yes you can telnet to an isp by using a dns number.  Give it a try.
kent


Re: problems with debian mirrors

1999-12-19 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote:

 Maybe my /etc/apt/apt.conf is incorrect. This is the line I added for
 the http_proxy setting, after reading man apt.conf:
 
 APT::Acquire::http::Proxy http://cache01.tor.pathcom.com:80/;;

Drop the leading APT::
 
 I also tried setenv HTTP_PROXY http://cache01.tor.pathcom.com:80/; in
 the same xterm just to make sure I didn't get it wrong in apt.conf.

http_proxy is lower case.

Jason


connecting to internet

1999-12-19 Thread Steve Winston
I am a newbie and have just installed Debian. I need to connect to a website
to download an upgrade to xfree86. I put the url in my sources list, but when
I try apt-update, the response I get is that the website doesn't exist. I have
checked it and it exists. My ppp connection to my isp is working ok. but I
can't get to the website. Lynx doesn't connect to anything although I have put
a url in lynx.cfg. I have tried ncftp, but no hosts are recognized although I
use them in with other distributions.
Any recommendations? I am using Debian Gnu/linux that is publish by Oreilly.
System is asus p5a mo-board, amd k6-2 400 cpu, 128 mb ram. debian shares a
drive with win98.
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http://webmail.netscape.com.


RE: Address Search Protocol, tcp 27374

1999-12-19 Thread Richard and Amy Bejtlich
 Hello,
 
 Are you aware of any security concerns involving Debian's Address Search
 Protocol, on port 27374?  I perform intrusion detection and have observed
 probing activity for this port.  Also, can you point me towards any
 resources describing this protocol?
 
 Thank you,
 
 Richard Bejtlich


Repost! Please help PPPD!

1999-12-19 Thread TH




Can someone please tel me what is going wrong 
here?
Dec 14 14:07:05 frontier pppd[216]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 
0x0 magic 0xd2a71853 pcomp accomp]
Dec 14 14:07:06 frontier pppd[216]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4 mru 1500 
asyncmap 0x magic 0xe9e22c92 pcomp 
accomp  11 04 05 dc  13 03 00]
Dec 14 14:07:06 frontier pppd[216]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x4  11 04 05 
dc  13 03 00]
What is wrong here? Why does my PPPD keep sending reject?

Thanks,
Tim.


depmod outputs unresolved symbols ... after recomiling kernel with CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=Y

1999-12-19 Thread Romanenko Mikhail
I use debian (kernel 2.2.13, libc6 2.1.2) with module support enabled. When 
building custom kernels (with kernel-package) I set CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=N. 
Everyting went good until I've decided to try 3com driver 3c90x from 
http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/linuxdownload.htm. As driver's 
documentation reads its version is lower than 2.2.13 and so I have to recompile 
the kernel with CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=Y (Am I right?). After doing so and running 
depmod -a (never mind at boot time or from comand line) I get a lot of 
messages: ... Unresolved symbols ... No modules is loading, of course. (After 
recompiling the kernel with the only changing CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=N everything 
works fine again)
I looked through all the FAQs, HOWTOs having to do with the question, 
debian-user mailing list archive, but found nothing to explain what I'm doing 
wrong


Can anybody help me, please.

Thank you, Mikhail.



Potato from scratch. Thanks.

1999-12-19 Thread Hans
I want to thank the person who made the suggestion last week to download
the Potato installation disks and installing a Potato system from scratch.
I downloaded resc1440.bin, root1440.bin and base2_2.tgz (16MB, so that took
a while), but after that I had a new system in a matter of minutes.

During the installation I checked the modules and to my surprise the ESS
Solo 1 sound chip was also listed. Alas, the module couldn't be found, but
that it not of such importance right now.

I got the ppp connections to my ISP working, but in the base system there
is (again) no possibility to read man pages. I couldn't find the apt-get
man page on the Debian homepage, so I'll fiddle a little myself later
today. But I've always wondered about one thing: how do you know the name
of the package you want to install. At least with dselect you have a menu
to search. Now I want to install Midnight Commander, so I guess that is
apt-get -d install mc (I'd like to download the package as well for use
on another machine and I've read the -d flag will do that).

But now I want to install X, so is apt-get -d install X right? Then how
do I choose that the right server is being downloaded? This always puzzled
me a bit, but I guess the answer will come in time :-)

Anyways, I'm happy to have a Potato system too now. 

-- Hans


Problems with building of Gnupg 1.0.1 package in slink - with (dirty) solution

1999-12-19 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny
Hi All,

I've downloaded the new GnuPG source from http://www.gnupg.org
(gnupg-1.0.1.tar.gz), unpacked it, and tried to build on my slink system.
After the first try to run 'su -c dpkg-buildpackage', I received the message:
usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage: debian/rules: permission denied
I've stated, that the debian/rules file has no execute permission, so I've done:
wzab:~/gnupg/tmp/gnupg-1.0.1$ chmod o+x debian/rules
and ran the  'su -c dpkg-buildpackage' once again.
Now I first received the warning:
dpkg-source: warning: source directory ./gnupg-1.0.1' is not 
sourcepackage-upstreamversion Gnupg-0.9.10'
And finally the build failed with the error:

install -m 755 debian/preinst debian/postinst debian/postrm debian/tmp/DEBIAN/
install: debian/postinst: No such file or directory
install: debian/postrm: No such file or directory
make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1

I've stated that the debian/rules contains the section:
binary-arch:checkroot build # test
$(checkdir)
-rm -rf debian/tmp
install -d debian/tmp/DEBIAN/
install -m 755 debian/preinst debian/postinst debian/postrm 
debian/tmp/DEBIAN/

but the files debian/postinst and debian/postrm do not exist.
After changing this section to:

binary-arch:checkroot build # test
$(checkdir)
-rm -rf debian/tmp
install -d debian/tmp/DEBIAN/
install -m 755 debian/preinst  debian/tmp/DEBIAN/

Now everything worked fine, and I've got the working gnupg_0.9.10-2_i386.deb
package.
BTW I don't know what defines the version of the package. The debian/control
does not contain the Version: line, there is only Standards-Version line...

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In search of the perfect font

1999-12-19 Thread Damon Muller
Hi folks,

Although I love by debian system, I must face the reality that X is
designed for and by people with big, expensive, ultra-high resolution
monitors. While environments like GNOME and WindowMaker leave MS Windoze
for dead, functionality and looks wise, if you run them at anything less
than 1024x768 you loose most of your screen real estate to wharfs and
docs and panels and such-like. Unfortunately, when you are a poor
student, such as myself (and presumably many of us here), with a crappy
little 15 monitor, some of the fonts can end up being just a bit too
small.

What I am seeking is a fixed-width font that is nice and viewable
(without having to bold) on a 15 monitor at 1024x768. Part of the
problem is that, because style should win over substance every time,
many of the fonts (such as misc/fixed) get lost when viewed in a
transparent term over a background picture. This is mainly for use
reading mail in mutt in a transparent (tinted) Eterm (I'm sure I'm not
the only one on the list who spends a large percentage of their time in
front of a computer merely reading and writing email).

I have found one font that I like which works quite well for my needs,
except that it is in the VGA (what I would have called ANSI back in my
BBSing days) character set. While this is fine for most purposes, it
mangles quite a few different foreign characters, and leaves me not able
to use the graphical thread characters in mutt.

I realise it's my own stupid fault for trying to have a cool looking
desktop without a 21 monitor (I have 17 at work and have no such font
problems there), but I was hoping someone out there in debian land might
have encountered a similar problem and found a solutions.

Cheers,

damon

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Re: Citrix ICA client on potato anybody?

1999-12-19 Thread Damon Muller
Hi Nico,

On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 03:23:41PM +0100, Nico De Ranter was heard to state:

 I just downloaded the Windows Terminal Server client for Linux
 (actualy Citrix' ICA Client for the Metaframe version of Windows 
 Terminal Server), but it appears to use libc5 in stead of 6.  Is
 there anyway I can get this working?
 
 tmp/./linux/echo_cmd: can't load library 'libc.so.5'

You may just need to get libc5 from oldlibs (I think). I'm running the
ICA client on a bleading-edge potato box at work, and I haven't had any
problems with it.

One thing you might like to look into though. I believe Citrix has
something that makes Terminal Server X compatible. We actually use NCD
X-Terms at work to connect to the NT Terminal Server. I have personally
found that connecting to Terminal Server using Xnest is actually a
little smoother and faster than using the ICA client. It doesn't seem
to do cut  paste b/w the Terminal Server session and X like ICA does,
but it feels a little faster to me (and I can use the same program to
connect to out Sun boxen).

In a world where it can be hard to escape MicroSoft, being able to use
my linux box and only connect to an NT Terminal server, from linux, when
absolutely necessary, is an æcceptable existance. :)

HTH,

damon

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Re: cooledit can't find library/compile from source?

1999-12-19 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 17:27:13 -0600, ktb wrote:
 This is the output when I try to run the program,
 
 /usr/local/cool_e/usr/bin$ ./cooledit
 ./cooledit: can't load library 'libCw.so.1'

Hmm.. try 'objdump --all-headers /usr/local/cool_e/usr/bin/cooledit' ; if
you see an 'RPATH' setting in there, you'll need to edit the binary and make
the first character of that path a NUL character. Then try again.
If it works then, the cause is that the binary you're using was hardwired to
look in a certain path for its libraries. We've had problems like this in
the past with e.g. Red Hat's CDE.

HTH,
Ray
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news binaries upload

1999-12-19 Thread Remco van 't Veer
Pan is fine for downloading binaries from news servers but is there
any package which can upload binaries?  Something to batch maybe?

TIA,
Remco


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Re: MP3 Players and Encoders

1999-12-19 Thread Jan Ludewig
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 12:41:09AM +1100, Andrew J.F. Clark wrote:
 I'd like to encode some cds I have as mp3s and I'm wondering what the
 best packages are to do this.  I'd like a player similar to winamp if
 one is available.
Encoder:
gogo (lame written partly in assembler ;)

Jan


Re: In search of the perfect font

1999-12-19 Thread John Foster
Damon Muller wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 Although I love by debian system, I must face the reality that X is
 designed for and by people with big, expensive, ultra-high resolution
 monitors. While environments like GNOME and WindowMaker leave MS Windoze
 for dead, functionality and looks wise, if you run them at anything less
 than 1024x768 you loose most of your screen real estate to wharfs and
 docs and panels and such-like. Unfortunately, when you are a poor
 student, such as myself (and presumably many of us here), with a crappy
 little 15 monitor, some of the fonts can end up being just a bit too
 small.
 
 What I am seeking is a fixed-width font that is nice and viewable
 (without having to bold) on a 15 monitor at 1024x768. Part of the
 problem is that, because style should win over substance every time,
 many of the fonts (such as misc/fixed) get lost when viewed in a
 transparent term over a background picture. This is mainly for use
 reading mail in mutt in a transparent (tinted) Eterm (I'm sure I'm not
 the only one on the list who spends a large percentage of their time in
 front of a computer merely reading and writing email).
 
 I have found one font that I like which works quite well for my needs,
 except that it is in the VGA (what I would have called ANSI back in my
 BBSing days) character set. While this is fine for most purposes, it
 mangles quite a few different foreign characters, and leaves me not able
 to use the graphical thread characters in mutt.
 
 I realise it's my own stupid fault for trying to have a cool looking
 desktop without a 21 monitor (I have 17 at work and have no such font
 problems there), but I was hoping someone out there in debian land might
 have encountered a similar problem and found a solutions.
-
I too have had a similar situation but it is because I have very poor
eyesight and do not intend to damage it more, by using hard to see
visuals. You should search the debian archives for the font
deuglification messages. They will guide you to a solution for this
problem.
see: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU.html   also
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Re: HOW TO CREATE AN IMMEDIATE CASH FLOW! AS SEEN ON TV!

1999-12-19 Thread Robert Varga


On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote:

 I hope we can blacklist these guys!

I seem to remember a comment on debian homepage mentioning a $1000-$2000
bill sent out to spammers automatically, since posting spam to debian 
lists means automatically accepting the advertisement fee specified for
the list. :)

Robert Varga


Re: depmod outputs unresolved symbols ...

1999-12-19 Thread hservoma

Hi Mikhail,

Don't know if this helps, but, when I compile a new kernel I always

rm -rf /lib/modules/kernelversion

before executing make modules_install. (I never use kernel-dpkg)

My guess is you have old modules lying around...

HTH

H.S.
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Re: KDE's menu messed up after apt-getting abiword

1999-12-19 Thread Marc Moody
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:44:23 -0500, Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After installing abiword through apt-get, my KDE menu is messed
 up. All the main menu things like 'System' and 'Network' got moved
 into a sub menu instead (where a Personal menu would go). This

This happens to me on occasion.  Not sure why.

Go to the Panel configuration.  Under the options tab, make sure the 
Personal Menu Entries First box is _not_ checked.  Then restart the panel.

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dpkg install errors

1999-12-19 Thread 2
heya

I've just been trying to upgrade all my slink stuff to potato and dpkg has
been complaining about a pile of files that it can't overwrite because
they're also in package insert here. It currently seems silly to me as 
to why a file present in two different packages simultaneously should completely
prevent the package's intstallation so would someone be able to enlighten me
as to why this is the case or what is actually happening here?

The offending packages were: 
bash_2.03-2_i386.deb
gnome-bin_1.0.54-1_i386.deb
gnome-admin_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
gnome-session_1.0.54-2_i386.deb
gnome-core_1.0.54-2_i386.deb

Here is a sample output from dpkg:
Preparing to replace gnome-core 0.30-2 (using gnome-core_1.0.54-2_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement gnome-core ...
dpkg: error processing gnome-core_1.0.54-2_i386.deb (--install):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/session-properties', which is also in package 
gnome-session

from

da Bobstopper
 


Hamm to slink to XFree86 3.3.5

1999-12-19 Thread Bob Brown




Here is my problem: My end goal is to 
install StarOffice 51. I loaded hamm from my cd, upgraded to slink using 
apt-get from ftp.debian.org, then pulled down XFree86 3.3.5 (current) for 
glibc. When I run startx I get this:
/usr/X11R6/bin/X: error in loading shared 
libraries
: undefined symbol: 
__register_frame_info

X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno 
= 2
X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno 
= 2
X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno 
= 2
X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno 
= 2
X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno 
= 2
X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno 
= 2
giving up.
xinit: no such file or directory (errno 
2): unable to connect to X server
xinit: no such process (errno 3): Server 
error.

Any 
suggestions?


Can one keep networks apart on a machine?

1999-12-19 Thread kaynjay
I have a dilemma at work.  They use Windoze (NT at the moment) and will not
allow me to use Linux instead.  Yet Linux is my choice both personally and
professionally (given the tools my discipline has which run under the two
environments, Linux is a born winner).  I Am allowed to use it as long as it
_cannot_access_ the LAN.  So I wondered... Is it possible to network it to my
office NT box without there being any crossover to the outside LAN?  Perhaps
this sounds silly, but rebooting is a Bear between systems (I have both on
the one machine at this time).  

(Linux is considered a Maverick system by our newly hired administrator.)

Thanks for a quick answer/thoughts/a reference?  

Kenward

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Re: Repost! Please help PPPD!

1999-12-19 Thread Bill Goudie
On Mon, Dec 20, 1999 at 04:14:40AM -, TH wrote:
 Dec 14 14:07:05 frontier pppd[216]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap
 0x0 magic 0xd2a71853 pcomp accomp]

 Dec 14 14:07:06 frontier pppd[216]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4 mru 1500 
 asyncmap 0x magic 0xe9e22c92 pcomp accomp  11 04 05 dc 
  13 03 00]
 
 Dec 14 14:07:06 frontier pppd[216]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x4  11 04 05
 dc  13 03 00]

I think this is debugging info from pppd.  Comment out the debug option in
/etc/ppp/options.  Or you can add the appropriate rule to syslog.conf to
direct it to a file other than /var/log/syslog.


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RCP problem

1999-12-19 Thread Brian Schramm
OK, I have had this problem come up several times running different Linux
distributions.  I will be using NFS on a network and then all of a sudden
I cannot mount any nfs drives and the logs say that rcp is not registered.  

1.  What causes this???
2.  What can I do to stop it??
3.  How do I fix the problem??

thanks for all your help.

Brian

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Re: error in loading shared libraries

1999-12-19 Thread Paul Miller
ktb wrote:
 
 I finally got into the archives, (slow as hell tonight).  Anyway I found
 in one of the mails the command, 'ldconfig -D' it shows that in /lib
 there are several errors such as:
 
 ldconfig: warning: /lib/ld-2.0.7.so has inconsistent soname
 (ld-linux.so.2)
 ldconfig: warning: /lib/libBrokenLocale-2.0.7.so has inconsistent soname
 (libBrokenLocale.so.1)
 ldconfig: warning: /lib/libc-2.0.7.so has inconsistent soname
 (libc.so.6)
 ldconfig: warning: /lib/libcrypt-2.0.7.so has inconsistent soname
 (libcrypt.so.1)
 
 Glad I found this but now how do I set things strait?  Where do I read
 about this?

I get these same warnings on both my Slink and Potato machines. I have
no problems with either machine.

As for the jed problem. You might try using the ldd command. It tells
you what libraries a library or executable is compiled against. eg:

gemini:pmiller:~\:$ldd /usr/bin/jed
libslang.so.1 = /lib/libslang.so.1 (0x40011000)
libgpm.so.1 = /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 (0x40058000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4005d000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40077000)
libncurses.so.4 = /lib/libncurses.so.4 (0x4011c000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
gemini:pmiller:~\:$ldd /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4000a000)
libncurses.so.4 = /lib/libncurses.so.4 (0x400af000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2000)

Hopefully this will point you to the offending library, and you can then
reinstall it. You will easily notice that a library is not found as it
tells you in the output of ldd.

Good luck,

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Re: static IP on PPP

1999-12-19 Thread Paul Miller
Do a man on pppd and look at the 'local IP address:remote IP address'
option. This would be set in /etc/ppp/peers/provider

Hope this helps,

luis wrote:
 
 hello
 
 how can i fix an IP using PPP?
 
 i have a fixed IP that i use when using eth0, and i would like to use
 it also when using ppp0
 
 i have tried putting the IP address in the /etc/ppp/peers/provider,
 but the ppp conection cannot still be established under my static IP
 
 what things i could have missed ?
 
 thanks a lot
 
 erasmo
 
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Re: static IP on PPP

1999-12-19 Thread Paul Miller
Sorry about my last message but it would seem I did not read. *deep
sigh* Its been a long weak.



luis wrote:
 
 hello
 
 how can i fix an IP using PPP?
 
 i have a fixed IP that i use when using eth0, and i would like to use
 it also when using ppp0
 
 i have tried putting the IP address in the /etc/ppp/peers/provider,
 but the ppp conection cannot still be established under my static IP
 
 what things i could have missed ?
 
 thanks a lot
 
 erasmo
 
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Audio CD database

1999-12-19 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci

Is there any ready-to-use Audio CD database program? I mean a program
to keep track of the discs I have, allowing searches by Author,
Orchestra and so on

If there is no such thing, where can I find something to learn to
build a database and it's query forms with postgresql? (possibly
something easy, the postgresql manual is not such a thing)

Pf

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Re: Bigclock bug in v2.4

1999-12-19 Thread Jens Rupp
Hi


I just recently upgraded bigclock from 2.3 to 2.4 on my Palm IIIe.  Now
 about 1/2 the time when I use a countdown timer Bigclock will crash and
force
 me to execute a hard reset.  Is there anyway to get v2.3 again?
The bug is fixed in V2.5
Get it from www.palmgear.com

Jens



Re: Can one keep networks apart on a machine?

1999-12-19 Thread Dave Sherohman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I have a dilemma at work.  They use Windoze (NT at the moment) and will not
 allow me to use Linux instead.  Yet Linux is my choice both personally and
 professionally (given the tools my discipline has which run under the two
 environments, Linux is a born winner).  I Am allowed to use it as long as it
 _cannot_access_ the LAN.  So I wondered... Is it possible to network it to my
 office NT box without there being any crossover to the outside LAN?  Perhaps
 this sounds silly, but rebooting is a Bear between systems (I have both on
 the one machine at this time).  

Would it be acceptable to just set up the Linux box with a static route
pointing at your NT box and no default route?  This would prevent it from
talking to any other machines even if it's physically using the same wire.
If it's on a different NIC, you should have full isolation.  (Just so long as
nobody tells the Linux box to use the NT box as a gateway and tells the NT
box to route packets...)

 (Linux is considered a Maverick system by our newly hired administrator.)

Well, yeah...  How could a johnny-come-lately OS family like *nix possibly be
as mature or robust as the long-established Windows family?

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Re: RCP problem

1999-12-19 Thread Paul Anderson
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, L.U.S.T List wrote:

 
 OK, I have had this problem come up several times running different Linux
 distributions.  I will be using NFS on a network and then all of a sudden
 I cannot mount any nfs drives and the logs say that rcp is not registered.  
 
I really need more information.  What was the exact error?  Is rpc.mountd
still running after this problem starts?  What about nfsd?


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Re: error in loading shared libraries

1999-12-19 Thread ktb
Paul Miller wrote:

snip
 
 As for the jed problem. You might try using the ldd command. It tells
 you what libraries a library or executable is compiled against. eg:
 
 gemini:pmiller:~\:$ldd /usr/bin/jed
 libslang.so.1 = /lib/libslang.so.1 (0x40011000)
 libgpm.so.1 = /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 (0x40058000)
 libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4005d000)
 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40077000)
 libncurses.so.4 = /lib/libncurses.so.4 (0x4011c000)
 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
 gemini:pmiller:~\:$ldd /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1
 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4000a000)
 libncurses.so.4 = /lib/libncurses.so.4 (0x400af000)
 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2000)
 
 Hopefully this will point you to the offending library, and you can then
 reinstall it. You will easily notice that a library is not found as it
 tells you in the output of ldd.

I did this and found:

~$ ldd /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40008000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x)

I found out that 'ld-linux.so.2' (which looks to be missing) is in
'libc6'.  I purged and reinstalled 'libc6' and still get:

~$ jed
jed: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/lib/libgpm.so.1: undefined symbol: stdscr

Ldd still shows,

/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x)

It doesn't seem like libc6 purged real cleanly, I did,
~# dpkg --purge remove-essential libc6

There were no errors when I reinstalled the package though.  Is it
possible that the package I have just didn't contain the one library?  I
tried 'dpkg -L libc6' and it states that that library exists in the
package.  Any thoughts?
Thanks,
kent


Re: error in loading shared libraries

1999-12-19 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 01:18:07PM -0600, ktb wrote:
 Paul Miller wrote:
 
 snip
  
  As for the jed problem. You might try using the ldd command. It tells
  you what libraries a library or executable is compiled against. eg:
  
  gemini:pmiller:~\:$ldd /usr/bin/jed
  libslang.so.1 = /lib/libslang.so.1 (0x40011000)
  libgpm.so.1 = /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 (0x40058000)
  libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4005d000)
  libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40077000)
  libncurses.so.4 = /lib/libncurses.so.4 (0x4011c000)
  /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
  gemini:pmiller:~\:$ldd /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1
  libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4000a000)
  libncurses.so.4 = /lib/libncurses.so.4 (0x400af000)
  /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2000)
  
  Hopefully this will point you to the offending library, and you can then
  reinstall it. You will easily notice that a library is not found as it
  tells you in the output of ldd.
 
 I did this and found:
 
 ~$ ldd /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1
 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40008000)
 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x)

ld-linux.so.2 is not missing. Ldd will say missing when a library is not
there. Your problem is elsewhere. File a bug on jed, most likely it is
simply a problem with the compilation, and/or dependencies.

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Re: Can one keep networks apart on a machine?

1999-12-19 Thread kaynjay
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/19/99 
   at 01:42 PM, Marcin Kurc [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

[...]
But let's get to the point. I understand that you have Windows box and Linux
box, you could install wingate on Windows box and put another network card
in it. This way you could have local ip on your linux box (192.168.1.2) and
being routed through windows box (192.168.1.1) to the real IP.

OK, but I need to remain OFF of the outside network.  (The reason for the
issue stems from my upgrading to 2.2.12 once, and not seeing the IP bug that
nearly blew away the rest of the system (broadcast packets... I'm on a
token-ring system, but other parts are ethernet.  I know understand the
difference between the two.  :).  That debacle has cost me Linux access and a
rancid note in my personnel file.  Don't ask why it took nearly 2 weeks to
realize the source of the problem.)

Would what you are suggesting allow me to keep the two Apart--meaning no way
for Linux to see the outsdie world?  I am looking for a way to get the Win
machine to act as a kind of junction between the two worlds, with the
potential of using the Win box as my local source for Internet material
(including .deb updates...).  Can the two interfaces be made blind of one
another?  

Or does this seem too kludgy?  

Kenward

Kenward Vaughan   .'^~;,_
Professor of Chemistry':,'~
Bakersfield College   \;:/
1801 Panorama Drive   |,;|
Bakersfield, CA  93305   / ', \
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Re: connecting to internet

1999-12-19 Thread Mark Wagnon
Steve Winston wrote:
 
 I am a newbie and have just installed Debian. I need to connect to 
 a website to download an upgrade to xfree86. I put the url in my
 sources list, but when I try apt-update, the response I get is
 that the website doesn't exist. I have checked it and it exists.
 My ppp connection to my isp is working ok. but I can't get to the
 website. Lynx doesn't connect to anything although I have put a 
 url in lynx.cfg. I have tried ncftp, but no hosts are recognized
 although I use them in with other distributions. Any
 recommendations? I am using Debian Gnu/linux that is publish by
 Oreilly. System is asus p5a mo-board, amd k6-2 400 cpu, 128 mb
 ram. debian shares a drive with win98.

You say that your connection is okay, that it's up? That's the first
thing to rule out. I haven't set up a PPP connection in ages, so I
really don't remember what needs to be running for PPP. You might
want to try:

  ps aux | grep pppd

to see if the daemon is running when you start your session. Can you
ping other sites? Try ping the Debian home page like so:

  ping www.debian.org

you should get some output that looks like this:

  PING www.debian.org (209.81.8.242): 56 data bytes
  64 bytes from 209.81.8.242: icmp_seq=0 ttl=55 time=51.5 ms
  64 bytes from 209.81.8.242: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=171.9 ms

and on and on. Hit ctrl-c to stop it. If you don't and you do have
your connection up, try pinging the IP address like so:

  ping 209.81.8.242

Again, you should see similar output. If this works then you
probably need to add the IP addresses of you DNSs to your
/etc/resolv.conf file.

If it turns out you haven't configured ppp correctly, I'd search
through the archives on ppp for a quicker start.

Just a couple of pointers. You might want to set your mail client to
wrap outgoing messages to a line length around 70 characters. It
makes it easier to read. Also, try to post portions of relevant
config files to help others help you better. Doing so lets us see
what you've done to figure it out, and to see if you made a typo or
something.

That's it, hope I was of some help, and welcome to Debian!
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Re: Can one keep networks apart on a machine?

1999-12-19 Thread kaynjay
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/19/99 
   at 11:56 AM, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Would it be acceptable to just set up the Linux box with a static route
pointing at your NT box and no default route?  This would prevent it from
talking to any other machines even if it's physically using the same wire.

They are concerned about broadcast packets (mentioned in another post).  I'm
not sure that this would work if the wire is shared.  I was thinking of a
direct connection between the two machines in the same office.  

I apologize for not being a network-aware person (strictly home-grown) so my
understanding of some suggestions is limited.  Suffice it to say that support
at work is going to be VERY limited, too.

Kenward

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Re: Xterm and function keys

1999-12-19 Thread Riku Saikkonen
Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In an xterm the function keys produce the following:
 F1 - ^[OP
 F2 - ^[OQ
 F3 - ^[OR
 F4 - ^[OS
 F5 - ^[[15~
 F6 - ^[[16~
...

On a different system (I tried SuSE) they produce:
 F1 - ^[[11~
 F2 - ^[[12~
 F3 - ^[[13~
 F4 - ^[[14~
 F5 - ^[[15~
 F6 - ^[[16~
...
which seems more correct.  I also get this behaviour on my Debian (potato)
box when I use rxvt or konsole.

On my system, the xterm bindings are ^[OP, ^[OQ, ^[OR, ^[OS, ^[[15~,
^[[17~, ^[[18~, ... (^[[16~ is missing for some reason.) rxvt creates
^[11~ and so forth. On the linux console, they are ^[[[A, ^[[[B,
^[[[C, ^[[[D, ^[[[E, ^[[17~, ^[[18~, etc.

But the ^[OP etc. are normal for xterms. There is really nothing
that says that something is correct and something else is not; as
long as the keys agree with what your terminal type specifies,
everything should work. Different terminals are just, well, different.
The differences seem quite arbitrary, but they probably have
historical reasons behind them...

All of the xterm, xterm-debian and xterm-xfree86 terminal types are
specified so that F1=^[OP. (You can see this by executing infocmp
xterm-debian and looking for kf1=\EOP in the output (^[ = \E = the
ESC character). The terminal type is selected with the TERM
environment variable, which xterm and the other programs should
automatically set to a correct value.)

So, basically, please don't care about it. :) If some keys don't work
somewhere, check your TERM environment variable and/or complain (but
please look at /usr/doc/xterm/README.Debian first, though the problems
it talks about concern mostly the Backspace and Delete keys). If you
write your own programs, don't depend on particular key bindings; get
them from terminfo instead. Otherwise, don't worry about it...

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