Libro de Debian
Alguien sabe donde se puede comprar en la Argentina algun libro sobre Debian en Castellano. O si hay algun lugar de la red donde se pueda bajar. Gracias.
Configuración del framebuffer bis
Gracias por las indicaciones que me haceis. Efectivamente, el mensaje de que no existía del dispositivo /dev/fb0 se debía a no haber arrancado en modo gráfico. Y ahora una un poco más complicada: He puesto en mi lilo.conf vga=ask con lo que me muestra al arrancar los modos a elegir; sin embargo a mí sólo me deja elegir modos de texto con más o menos líneas y columnas, aunque haga scan, me vuelve a mostrar los mismos. Sin embargo he podido poner directamente un modo gráfico -por ejemplo 0314- y me lo ha asumido y arrancado en ese modo -he podido observar el logo del pingüino-. ¿Esto es siempre así? No obstante, no he podido arrancar las X windows y ello a pesar de haber seleccionado el servidor XF86_FBDev y haber modificado manualmente el fichero XF86Config de la siguiente manera: - He comentado todas las líneas de Modelines de la sección del monitor - He creado una sección pantalla para el serviodor específico: Section Screen Driver FBDev Device mi tarjeta Monitor mi monitor Subsection Display Depth 16 Modes default EndSubsection EndSection Al ejecutar startx se me viene abajo el servidor. He comprobado el modo que tenía activo con fbset y me decía que era 800x600-75. Es posible que ese modo no esté soportado por mi monitor, sin embargo no he logrado que me cogiera ningún otro con la profundidad de 16 bits. También he creado el fichero fb.modes con una única entrada que sí es compatible con mi PC (800x600-56)y la he denominado mode default pero no consigo acceder con esta resolución. ¿Sabe alguno de vosotros cómo poner un modo gráfico específico al arrancar el PC? Es decir, si por ejemplo arranco con el modo general 0314 (800x600 16 bits) ¿cómo hago para que sea el de la velocidad de refresco horizontal y vertical compatibles con mi PC? La entrada de fb.modes es: mode default geometry 800 600 800 600 16 timings 27778 128 24 22 1 72 2 hsync high vsync high endmode mode 800x600-56 ,con los mismos indicadores de default Gracias y felices fiestas
Re: Using Samba
Grzegorz, Try replacing Documento with Documents. It worked for me. By the way, that Documents/pdf directory is full of goodies in pdf format. Nitebirdz On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, TooMany wrote: Para el que le interese: O'Reilly acaba de publicar, como Open Source, el libro Using Samba. Lo encontrareis en formato .pdf en: www.genericbooks.com/Documento/pdf/usingsamba.pdf URL not found, 404. El directorio tampoco existe. Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gogosoftware - http://welcome.to/gogosoftware/ It said 'Win95 or better'... so I installed it under LiNUX :-) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: .pid
No te puedo decir si es un estandar de UNIX o no, pero si que te puedo asegurar que FreeBSD 3.3.4 tambien lo utiliza. Supongo que cualquier version de BSD (SCO, HP-UX, etc.) tambien sigue esa regla. Nitebirdz On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Prog. d'un instal.lador wrote: Hola, mi pregunta es si esta normalizado el directorio /var/run para que almacene todos los *.pid de los demonios en funcionamiento en todas las distribuciones linux (concretamente tambien en todos los unix). Gracias -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
ftp anonimo
Hola, tanto tiempo, Feliz navidad Bueno, estoy tratando de configurar un ftp anonimo en mi màquina y estos fueron los pasos a seguir: 1. crear una cuenta ftp (adduser ftp) sin passwd 2. escribir el nombre de la cuenta 'ftp' en /etc/ftpchroot 3. dentro del directorio /home/ftp cree bin, etc y pub con los siguientes permisos: pdr-x--x--x 2 root ftp 1024 Dec 26 15:18 bin dr-x--x--x 2 root ftp 1024 Dec 26 15:19 etc dr-xr-xr-x 2 root ftp 1024 Dec 26 15:19 pub 4. que en /etc/ftpusers no aparezca el nombre de la cuenta Al hacer una auto-conección : host:127.0.0.1 user:anonymous pass:[ email ] me conecto pero a un directorio cache o algo así ya que los directorios pub,etc,bin no aparecen. ¿Que podria ser lo que me esta faltando configurar? ¿o hay algo que no debì hacer? Nos vemos y gracias.
Re: Arreglar una vfat
Xavier Andrade wrote: Hola Alguien conoce una herramienta de linux para arreglar una filesystem vfat. Las ultimas versiones de fsck.msdos, o creo que era fsck.vfat que van el las dosfstools (yo me baje las fuentes, no se si en algun paquete) me sirvieron para reparar un disco de 2Gb, pude formatearlo en fat32 y el win me decia al intentrlo que la pista 0 estaba dañada... -- -- Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blaine En IRC-HISPANO If it's KA, it come like the wind, like a ciclon Dark Tower IV (Stephen King) Linux User 90535 Usando kernel 2.2.13 y 2.3.29 En Linux/GNU Debian 2.1 --
Re: Configuración del frame buffer
Miguel A. Abarca wrote: Hola de nuevo, en vista de la imposibilidad de encontrar soporte para mi tarjeta gráfica (S3 Savage3D) con Xfree86 -ni siquiera la versión 3.3.5-, me Que extraño, en el Changelog de la 3.3.5 dice que la soporta y que soporta la Savage4... Echa un vistazo en /usr/doc/xserver-common/README.S3V Igual tienes que usar el driver de la virge... -- -- Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blaine En IRC-HISPANO If it's KA, it come like the wind, like a ciclon Dark Tower IV (Stephen King) Linux User 90535 Usando kernel 2.2.13 y 2.3.29 En Linux/GNU Debian 2.1 --
Re: [OFF TOPIC] me cuelgan el modem desde afuera
Jose Luis Trivino wrote: Blu wrote: Hasta donde yo se la cadena funciona solo en un sentido, de la serial al modem y no desde la linea al modem. Bueno, ante la duda me picaba la curiosidad y lo comprobé ayer personalmente. Efectivamente una candena entrante a través de la línea telefónica también puede colgar el modem. El porque no soy capaz de decirlo. Aunque pensando un poco maliciosamente se me ha ocurrido que cuando nos conectamos a internet no solo usamos nuestro modem. Si no me equivoco (que me corriga alguien si no es así) el proveedor de internet también debe tener un modem al que se conecta el nuestro. Si este proveedor no ha configurado su modem correctamente (lo cual creo que es lo más probable) entonces el modem que cuelga no es el nuestro, sino el de nuestro proveedor. Que opinais? Si es así sirve de muy poco que protegamos nuestro modem pues con el otro no podremos hacer nada. Si, y no. Se puede tener modems, pero eso es una patata, ya que la velocidad maxima punto a punto se reduciria a 33600 y ademas te pueden colgar el modem del otro lado si este no esta protegido. Pero lo logico y lo normal (asi lo creo) es que se monten tarjetas multipuerto, que son mas comodas y mas baratas que un pool de modems, en este ultimo caso no habria problemas ya que la cadena no colgara el serial. Corregidme si me equivoco... -- -- Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blaine En IRC-HISPANO If it's KA, it come like the wind, like a ciclon Dark Tower IV (Stephen King) Linux User 90535 Usando kernel 2.2.13 y 2.3.29 En Linux/GNU Debian 2.1 --
Problemas con LILO.
Hola a todos. Feliz Navidad y próspero año nuevo, antes de nada. Os escribo para preguntar qué es lo que tengo mal en mi LILO para que no me aparezca al arrancar el ordenador. Mi fichero lilo.conf es: message=/root/inicio boot=/dev/hda3 root=/dev/hda3 compact install=/boot/boot.b prompt timeout=100 map=/boot/map vga=normal other=/dev/hda1 table=/dev/hda label=dos image=/vmlinuz label=linux read-only Mi particion de Linux está en hda3 y la de Windows, que es en la que quiero que arranque por defecto y que es la que está activa, está en hda1. Al arrancar el ordenador no aparece nada de LILO, ¿por qué puede ser? Me ha pasado otras veces y me ayudasteis a arreglarlo pero ahora creo que lo tengo todo igual que cuando lo hacía bien y sin embargo no funciona. Gracias a todos y un saludo. Emilio.
MMSN842 - Suporte no Linux
Oi, Vocês sabem se é possível incluir o suporte do Linux a placa de som MMSN842 (AT3100)? Este é um modelo usado no Infoway da Itautec e possui entradas para rádio, TV, etc, e também tem o Fax-Modem embutido com suporte a viva voz. A placa não é PnP mas opera com um tipo de configuração jumperless bem prehistórico onde um software a reconfigura toda a placa após cada boot do sistema. O problema começa por ai, este utilitário de configuração somente está disponível para DOS e sem ele não consegui mudar a IRQ ou habilitar o Fax-Modem (que é desabilitado por padrão após ligar o micro). Os chips usados pela placa são: ATZ2316, OPL3, e Rockwell(28.800). A parte OPL3 funciona normalmente. Será que é possível coloca-la para funcionar com os recursos que dispomos hoje no Linux? O principal problema que estou futuramente prevendo é o software de configuração jumperless adotado pela placa, existe alguma alternativa no Linux sobre programas deste tipo? Infelizmente não encontrei nada no site do fabricante falando sobre o suporte desta placa no Lin (foi difícil até encontrar drivers para DOS e Win). --- gleydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil -- http://www.mailbr.com.br Estamos concorrendo ao IBEST - Serviços On-Line Acesse http://ibest.mailbr.com.br e Vote!
Re: Projeto de Lei
Andre Leao Macedo escreveu: Olá, Leiam esse projeto de Lei do Deputado Walter Pinheiro sobre a utilização de software de código aberto por órgão governamentais: http://www.conectiva.com.br/jornal/noticias/not337.html Como uma pessoa que contribui com software livre, acredito que este projeto é uma mão na roda na divulgação do Linux e sua disseminação, mas por outro lado sem a devida atenção e divulgação da Imprensa nacional sobre este projeto, ele vai acabar caindo no esquecimento... Alias, costumo ver revistas fora da área de informática sobre Bill Gates Microsoft, Windows, bla, bla, bla, mas nada sobre o movimento de desenvolvimento mundial do Linux que é um fato histórico e não vem obtendo devida atenção pela mídia. --- gleydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil -- http://www.mailbr.com.br Estamos concorrendo ao IBEST - Serviços On-Line Acesse http://ibest.mailbr.com.br e Vote!
Re: Undeletable File Causing Massive Headaches
On 12/25/99, Eliot Landrum addressed Undeletable File Causing Massive Headaches: is /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 and the permissions are as follows: p---rw--w-1 root 28531 0 Dec 21 20:04 /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 Apparently your group ^ doesn't really exist in /etc/group. You could chgrp root /lib/libext... and then try deleting it. You could also chmod 666 /lib/libext... and then try deleting it. Hope this works for you. Jesse -- Jesse Jacobsen, Pastor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grace Lutheran Church (ELS) http://www.jvlnet.com/~jjacobsen/ Madison, Wisconsin GnuPG public key ID: 2E3EBF13
Re: Undeletable File Causing Massive Headaches
On 12/25/99, Eliot Landrum addressed Undeletable File Causing Massive Headaches: This one file is causing me terrible grief and I need to get it fixed. The file is /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 and the permissions are as follows: p---rw--w-1 root 28531 0 Dec 21 20:04 /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 Looks to me like your group doesn't exist in /etc/group, and that's the only thing with write access to the file. You could try doing a chgrp root /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 or a chmod 666 /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 and then try to delete it. Hope this works. Jesse -- Jesse Jacobsen, Pastor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grace Lutheran Church (ELS) http://www.jvlnet.com/~jjacobsen/ Madison, Wisconsin GnuPG public key ID: 2E3EBF13
Detecting IBM 13.5GB IDE HDD---anyone?
Installing potato. My system is as follows: Mainboard: ASUS P5A CPU:K6-II 400 What is sfdisk? Is it on the install disks---apparently not? I have attempted to follow the Large Disk HOWTO and jumpered the drive as a 15 Head drive, as suggested. Otherwise it was detected at 500MB. I only see 7.9 GB. Several different BIOS parameters don't improve the situation. Has anyone on this list succeeded at this? Alan Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-windows and fvwm2?
I have just installed Debian and X-windows which has a few window managers like fvwm2 and WindowMaker and But, the viewport is not properly set. The viewport is smaller than the size of my desktop; How can I adjust the viewport in X/WM ? Any help would be appreciated, -Reza
Re: Detecting IBM 13.5GB IDE HDD---anyone?
Actually, yeah. I have the IBM 14.4 GXP drive, and it detects fine. It's on as secondary on my secondary IDE controller, but I don't know if that affects anything. . . I have much the same system, except on an EPOX board with a bios that's only a few months old. . . You might wanna see if there's an update for your current board, because you may just need to flash so that the board can manipulate the heads, for instance.. Castille At 12:08 PM 12/25/99 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote: Installing potato. My system is as follows: Mainboard: ASUS P5A CPU:K6-II 400 What is sfdisk? Is it on the install disks---apparently not? I have attempted to follow the Large Disk HOWTO and jumpered the drive as a 15 Head drive, as suggested. Otherwise it was detected at 500MB. I only see 7.9 GB. Several different BIOS parameters don't improve the situation. Has anyone on this list succeeded at this? Alan Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Undeletable File Causing Massive Headaches
On 25/12/99 Eliot Landrum wrote: root (superuser) is unable to delete, chmod, modify, move or do ANYTHING to this file. I've done gazillions of things to try and correct it. I've booted up with tomsrtbt, fsck'ed the disk many times, run badblocks on it, tried deleting it when the drive was not mounted as / and many many other things that people have suggested. Here is what i get when root does rm -Rf /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4: sounds like a immutable file, even though those permissions are totally wrong that is irrelevant to root, if you are getting operation not permitted for every action on it i would suspect immutability, try lsattr /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 if you see sometihng like this: ---i--- /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 then its immutable, run chattr -i /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 then try and remove it. how it got that way i would sure like to know though... -- Ethan Benson To obtain my PGP key: http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/pgp/
Re: Matrox Marvel G400 or Guillemot Cougar Video Edition
G400 by far as the best linux support of any videocard, full 2D/3D acceleration as well as DVD playback(still in development but from what i read it works) nate On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Nico De Ranter wrote: nico nico Howdy, nico nico nico I want to buy a new graphics board. I can choose between nico a Matrox Marvel G400 and a Guillemot Cougar Video Edition. nico (I want something with a TV-out). What would be the best choice/ nico best linux support? nico nico nico nico Nico nico nico nico It has been said that there are only two businesses nico refer to customers as users: illegal drug trade and nicothe computer industry. nico nico Nico De Ranter nico Sony Service Center (SUPC-E/NSSE) nico Sint Stevens Woluwestraat 55 (Rue de Woluwe-Saint-Etienne) nico 1130 Brussel (Bruxelles), Belgium, Europe, Earth nico Telephone: +32 2 724 86 41 Telefax: +32 2 726 26 86 nico e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] nico nico nico -- nico Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null nico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:51pm up 128 days, 7:43, 2 users, load average: 1.48, 1.55, 1.54
Re: Detecting IBM 13.5GB IDE HDD---anyone?
are you running the latest BIOS ? 7.9GB is quite common on older boards as a limitation (32GB is another barrier) make sure you got the latest bios and the drive should be in LBA mode i believe. I just installed corel 1.0 on an IBM 18GB ide and it went fine (AOpen AP5T-3 i430TX mainboard) nate On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Alan E. Davis wrote: adavis Installing potato. My system is as follows: adavisMainboard: ASUS P5A adavisCPU:K6-II 400 adavis adavis What is sfdisk? Is it on the install disks---apparently not? I have attempted to follow the Large Disk HOWTO and jumpered the drive as a 15 Head drive, as suggested. Otherwise it was detected at 500MB. adavis adavis I only see 7.9 GB. Several different BIOS parameters don't improve the situation. adavis adavis Has anyone on this list succeeded at this? adavis adavis Alan Davis adavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] adavis adavis adavis -- adavis Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null adavis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:51pm up 128 days, 7:43, 2 users, load average: 1.48, 1.55, 1.54
xscreensaver
Ok, I did an apt-cache search xroger and it doesn't report any hits. When my X screen saver kicks in, it says it can't find xroger. This should be a standard. Anyone know where I can find it? Robert :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting.| and defintely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. http://www.rnd-consulting.com/~nomad DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
mwave modem -- any support?
Any plans to support the IBM MWave DSP's modem features in Linux? The kernel docs indicate that sound support is in the process of being added, but the current method is to load DOS level drivers . . . and the IBM drivers for the modem are unfortunately Windows-level. Hey, I hate to invest money in a PCMCIA modem for a laptop this old. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum http://dm.net
Re: xscreensaver
Robert L. Harris writes: I did an apt-cache search xroger and it doesn't report any hits It's in the gnome-control-center package. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Logging user's logging in
**Please CC all replies to me - I'm not currently subscribed** I would like to log via syslogd whenever a user logs in. How would I go about doing this? Furthermore, I might also want to JUST log when root logs in, or when someone's sus into root - how would I do this? Thanks in advance, Neil -- Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG key from http://24.112.188.210/mykey.asc
Moving from RedHat to Debian
I've been using RedHat for about eight months, but I'd like to switch to Debian. Is there any easy way to do this, or is it going to be a painful transition? Also, what's the best way to go about installing Debian? I have a fast connection, so I'm wondering if an ftp install is the way to go? Any suggestions? Thanks, Aaron
FTP Installation Instructions
I would like to begin downloading Debian Linux but I remain a little puzzled as to how this procedure really works. I have RedHat 6.1 on an old P133 (64MB) 1 GB system at home I can play around with. The RedHat install works fine and we use the same release at work where I am a unix admin for HPUX AIX systems. However, for reasons I can't really explain, I would like to delve deeper into Linux and begin working with current builds - a yearning likely to yield as much grief as pleasure, but I can't help myself. With RedHat I have always used the boot floppy and the cdrom. That's fairly simple nowadays, but one remains dependent on the prepackaged releases and I end up with a very generic installation. That's functional enough, but its boring. I imagine performing installs off the web will require a little more Linux savvy, which is agreeable enough. So my question is, assuming I start from the 6.1 platform I have, how would I go about downloading and converting to the most recent / stable Debian release? By asking that I don't really expect anyone to lead me through the process step by step and I have read through at least some of the installation documentation on the web site. However, in spite of that, I remain unclear where I deposit the Debian ftp download and how I initiate the installation. Do I create a boot floppy and point it to a installation directory? Can someone point me to some documentation that addresses installing from a ftp download? Hagen Finley Longs Drugs Walnut Creek, CA
Re: Moving from RedHat to Debian
I myself have just recently started to switch from Redhat to Debian. I have found that Debian has a lot of useful features, but with those is complexity. It seems to me as harder to setup than Redhat. I have tried the ftp install and it is very good, but still slow especially if you would be downloading a large package. If you go to the website http://linuxcentral.com they offer a 2 CD-ROM set of Debian for 3.95 (+5.30 S H) 9.25 total. That might be useful if you run into problems or want to install it on other machines. It will also save you a lot of time. John Anderson On 25 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using RedHat for about eight months, but I'd like to switch to Debian. Is there any easy way to do this, or is it going to be a painful transition? Also, what's the best way to go about installing Debian? I have a fast connection, so I'm wondering if an ftp install is the way to go? Any suggestions? Thanks, Aaron -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
palm pilot vs visor
hi all, I am planning to purchase a palm OS based organiser. I am eyeing on 3com's palm pilot IIIe and Handspring's Visor. I would eventually sync with linux. Which one is best supported. thanks. -gnana
Trouble with /dev/tty vs. /dev/ttyX
Debian potato, Linux davinci 2.2.13 #1 Fri Dec 3 13:33:40 CST 1999
i586 unknown
I was trying to use gpg and got this error:
~ {138}% gpg --gen-key
gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.1; Copyright (C) 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details.
gpg: cannot open /dev/tty: Permission denied
The error occurs from either an xterm or a virtual term. It looks
like the program is trying to open /dev/tty rather than /dev/ttyX
(e.g., /dev/tty2) -- I don't know why?
--
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University of Iowa Iowa City, IA 52242
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Re: Moving from RedHat to Debian
On 25 Dec 1999 14:47:55 -0700 linuxdevil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using RedHat for about eight months, but I'd like to switch to Debian. Having made the switch for a number of machines (web servers, mail servers, desktops, etc), its not *that* difficult. Is there any easy way to do this, or is it going to be a painful transition? It really depends on how well you've kept your house in order, and your records straight on your RH box. Wht do you do on your HR boxes? What applications do you use? What versions? Are those same versions of those same packages available under Debian? Are older versions available? Does the difference matter to you? How much of your system did your build and configure from sources? How dependency and inter-relation is there between the critical compnents of your work environment? Do you know hoe to rebuild that same level of relation from scratch with the raw applications? The move need not be painful. It took me about a half a day per machine including install time to potato, with the larger servers taking just over a week per machine due to gradual staged roll-overs and running both servers in parallel for several days to watch performance and configurations. Also, what's the best way to go about installing Debian? I started with the ISO image on the Debian FTP site to get the base image installed, and then rolled straight to potato from a local mirror. Given a local mirror on 100base, you can get the entire install done in about 15 or 20 minutes from the initial book. I have a fast connection, so I'm wondering if an ftp install is the way to go? HTTP is fastest, with FTP and NFS following close behind depending on the performance of the various server stacks (Linux NFS on the server is faster than FTP, Solaris NFS is slower due to Linux NFS shortcomings). -- J C Lawrence Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --(*) Other: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--
Re: Moving from RedHat to Debian
I've been using RedHat for about eight months, but I'd like to switch to Debian. Is there any easy way to do this, or is it going to be a painful transition? Also, what's the best way to go about installing Debian? I have a fast connection, so I'm wondering if an ftp install is the way to go? Any suggestions? I have just done this and am very pleased with the transition so far.The installation is straightforward.( I do not have experience with an ftp installation ) I recommend installing from a bootable CD. Consider the boxed-CD set from http://www.valinux.com ( $20). This includes : Learning Debian GNU/Linux Book: 368 pages, written by Bill McCarty and published by O'Reilly and, Debian GNU/Linux QuickStart Guide: 36 pages, written by Kameran Kashani Read the installation guide and Release Notes for Slink at http://www.debian.org before you install. It has kernel version 2.2.12 and XFree86, 3.3.4. I initially used xf86config to configure X , and then simply copied my XF86Config file that I used with Red Hat directly to /etc/X11 After installing the base system, I installed packages by selecting tasks, ( you may choose a profile instead) and then installed additional applications, such as Netscape and KDE, using apt-get. I did not use dselect to select individual packages.After installation, you can remove packages you do not need with dpkg. ( dpkg --purge package )Then you can upgrade your entire system using apt-get. Apt-get is an excellent application. There are many differences between RH and Debian, but none substantial. This may be the subject of a Red Hat to Debian : HOWTO :-) Cheers, Howard Mann. http://www.newbielinux.com
Re: palm pilot vs visor
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 10:50:31AM +0530, T.V.Gnanasekaran wrote: I am planning to purchase a palm OS based organiser. I am eyeing on 3com's palm pilot IIIe and Handspring's Visor. I would eventually sync with linux. Which one is best supported. Well, in theory the Visor is completely Palm compatable. Are you looking at the cheap visor? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Moving from RedHat to Debian
On Sat, Dec 25, 1999 at 02:47:55PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using RedHat for about eight months, but I'd like to switch to Debian. Is there any easy way to do this, or is it going to be a painful transition? Also, what's the best way to go about installing Debian? I have a fast connection, so I'm wondering if an ftp install is the way to go? Any suggestions? If you're really feeling adventurous, I seem to remember a post to this list from sometime last spring from a guy who made that switch ... without rebooting. It might be unnecessarily difficult to try, but it would make you much cooler than all of your friends ... Rob -- Watch your mouth, kid, or you'll find yourself floating home. -- Han Solo
RE: palm pilot vs visor
Dear gnana, I can't speak to the Linux support question, but from the standpoint of price for hardware, the Visor is significantly superior to the IIIx. The Visor is purportedly equivalent to the PalmVx with 8MB RAM and the latest screen enhancements. It also has the ability to accept program and hardware modules (although its not clear what is presently available in this medium). On the downside, compared to the Palm V the Visor lacks the rechargeable batteries and the sexy case. Priced at roughly $275 the Visor versus IIIx seems like a no brainer. The Visor does have something like a 4 to 6 week backorder from Handspring and I have yet to see it marketed elsewhere. Kind regards, Hagen Finley Longs Drugs Walnut Creek, CA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of T.V.Gnanasekaran Sent: Saturday, December 25, 1999 9:21 PM To: Debian User List Subject: palm pilot vs visor hi all, I am planning to purchase a palm OS based organiser. I am eyeing on 3com's palm pilot IIIe and Handspring's Visor. I would eventually sync with linux. Which one is best supported. thanks. -gnana -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: palm pilot vs visor
Hi Steve, Thanx for replying. Well, in theory the Visor is completely Palm compatable. Are you looking at the cheap visor? yes. I am a beginner organiser. I am mainly looking for the software compatibility. I would connect the cradle to my serial port and use pilot-link software to sync data. Your suggestions are most welcome. -gnana
Re: FTP Installation Instructions
Hi Hagen Welcome to Debian. I'm assuming that you're planning on wiping out the disk and starting over once you've created the base system floppies? If so, point your browser at http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/install and look at Chapter 5. The subsections cover just about everything you need including how to create the floppy disks (9) that will install your base system. If you have any problems holler again on this list. If not, take a look at the thread Moving from RedHat to Debian currently active on the list. John I would like to begin downloading Debian Linux but I remain a little puzzled as to how this procedure really works. I have RedHat 6.1 on an old P133 (64MB) 1 GB system at home I can play around with. The RedHat install works fine and we use the same release at work where I am a unix admin for HPUX AIX systems. However, for reasons I can't really explain, I would like to delve deeper into Linux and begin working with current builds - a yearning likely to yield as much grief as pleasure, but I can't help myself. With RedHat I have always used the boot floppy and the cdrom. That's fairly simple nowadays, but one remains dependent on the prepackaged releases and I end up with a very generic installation. That's functional enough, but its boring. I imagine performing installs off the web will require a little more Linux savvy, which is agreeable enough. So my question is, assuming I start from the 6.1 platform I have, how would I go about downloading and converting to the most recent / stable Debian release? By asking that I don't really expect anyone to lead me through the process step by step and I have read through at least some of the installation documentation on the web site. However, in spite of that, I remain unclear where I deposit the Debian ftp download and how I initiate the installation. Do I create a boot floppy and point it to a installation directory? Can someone point me to some documentation that addresses installing from a ftp download? Hagen Finley Longs Drugs Walnut Creek, CA -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Powered by the Penguin
Re: vga=ask in lilo.conf
Hi Andy, The VGA stuff is kernel-based. SVGATextMode is a program that you can load after the kernel's loaded to use SVGA instead of VGA. So generally the answer to your question is, yes. However, you can use the SVGA stuff to get higher resolutions also. Personally, I don't use the SVGATextMode stuff, as the resolutions and text modes available under most of my VGA cards suit me just fine. Hope it helps, enjoy. You can read more in the man pages for the SVGA stuff if your interested. I've never really used it, as I like the VGA stuff better. Enjoy, and hope you had happy holidays, Nate, [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Dec 25, 1999 at 10:43:23AM -0800, Andy Thomas wrote: Hi, It's when it gets to Invoking SVGATextMode... on bootup that it switches back to 80x25. Is svgatextmode some sort of driver I should unload in order to get this to stick? Thanks Andy
Re: xscreensaver
According to apt-get, I have that at the newest version installed already. Thus spake John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Robert L. Harris writes: I did an apt-cache search xroger and it doesn't report any hits It's in the gnome-control-center package. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting.| and defintely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. http://www.rnd-consulting.com/~nomad DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: Trouble with /dev/tty vs. /dev/ttyX
J == Joe Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
J I was trying to use gpg and got this error:
J ~ {138}% gpg --gen-key
J gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.1; Copyright (C) 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
J This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
J This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
J under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details.
J gpg: cannot open /dev/tty: Permission denied
J The error occurs from either an xterm or a virtual term. It looks
J like the program is trying to open /dev/tty rather than /dev/ttyX
J (e.g., /dev/tty2) -- I don't know why?
/dev/tty is a psuedo-tty that is always the current tty (whether a
real one, a serial port, or a pty). You need read and write access to it.
% ls -l /dev/tty
crw-rw-rw-1 root root 5, 0 Dec 31 1969 /dev/tty
%
on my system. (the odd date is because I am running with devfs patch).
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Re: Logging user's logging in
**Please CC all replies to me - I'm not currently subscribed** I would like to log via syslogd whenever a user logs in. How would I go about doing this? Furthermore, I might also want to JUST log when root logs in, or when someone's sus into root - how would I do this? I did not try to configure syslog myself but on my machine su root is reported on the xconsole. I hope this might help you do what you want.
Re: X-windows and fvwm2?
I have just installed Debian and X-windows which has a few window managers like fvwm2 and WindowMaker and But, the viewport is not properly set. The viewport is smaller than the size of my desktop; How can I adjust the viewport in X/WM ? There is a ViewPort parameter in the /etc/X11/XF86Config file but I am not sure it is related to your problem. From Xf86Config man page: ViewPort x0 y0 This optional entry sets the upper left corner of the initial display. This is only relevant when the virtual screen resolution is differ ent from the resolution of the initial video mode. If this entry is not given, then the initial display will be centered in the vir tual display area.
Re: Moving from RedHat to Debian
I've been using RedHat for about eight months, but I'd like to switch to Debian. Is there any easy way to do this, or is it going to be a painful transition? Also, what's the best way to go about installing Debian? I have a fast connection, so I'm wondering if an ftp install is the way to go? Any suggestions? With a fast connection I would use the apt method. You might want to start with the docs at http://www.debian.org/~aph/boot-floppi es/2.1.12-19991209 and probably continue with the other stuff on that dir, but keep in mind that the boot team is still working on this stuff. Alternatively, you can follow the docs for the stable release, which is pointed to on www.debian.org.
moving to a bigger harddisk - weird (?) problem
Hi! I´m trying to move from a 1.6G[1] to a 25G harddrive. I put the new drive in as secondary master, the kernel detects the following hda: Conner Peripherals 1620MB - CFS1621A, 1548MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=786/64/63 hdc: IBM-DJNA-352500, 24405MB w/1966kB Cache, CHS=49585/16/63, DMA then I partition, move the data, put the harddisk to primary master, boot from CD (rescue root=/dev/hda2), but now can´t install lilo because hda: IBM-DJNA-352500, 24405MB w/1966kB Cache, CHS=1027/255/63, DMA which is confusing lilo and fdisk, because the partitions now don´t end on cylinder boundarys. Any hints? -robert 1: which I don´t want to use as bootdrive because it´s starting to fail. -- - ___ - Robert WaldnerEUnet/AT tech staff // / ___ _/_ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] RW960-RIPE --- /--- / / / / /___/ / --- ---EUnet EDV-DienstleistungsgesmbH--- -- /___ /___/ / / /___ /_ Diefenbachgasse 35A-1150 Wien - - Tel: +43 1 89933 Fax: +43 1 89933 533
DEB files
Hello, How to create .deb files? How to convert .rpm files do .deb files? Thank you,
Re: DEB files
*- On 26 Dec, Tux wrote about DEB files Hello, How to create .deb files? http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/packaging.html/ How to convert .rpm files do .deb files? Install the alien package and read the man page and then try, alien file.rpm Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: DEB files
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 11:54:12AM -0200, Tux wrote: ^^^ No Realname ?? Hello, How to create .deb files? Read the Debian Packaging Manual How to convert .rpm files do .deb files? apt-get install alien man alien Dennis -- Contrary to popular belief, UNIX is a user-friendly Operating System. It's just choosey about who its friends are. pgph42oRzSyc8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mirror transformation of the Postscript files
Hi All, I have need in mirror transformation of the Postscript files for printing on the transparence. I should be glad for any idea. A. Petrov
Re: xscreensaver
Robert L. Harris writes: According to apt-get, I have that at the newest version installed already. hasler//u/home/john dpkg -S xroger gnome-control-center: /usr/share/control-center/.data/xroger.png -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
massive root filesystem corruption
hi, I just had some massive filesystem corruption on the root filesystem of a debian potato system that was installed about a month ago and was working fine till now, running self compiled 2.2.13 kernel. the box has been running GNU/Linux (redhat) for about a year and a half with no trouble either.. after finding that all of /bin and nearly all of /etc contents were moved to lost+found losing their filenames after a fsck -y I ended up reinstalling the system. is there any way to restore the files to a destroyed root filesystem (/var /usr and /home are all separate undamaged filesystems) ? or is a full reinstall the only way to really fix this other then restore from tape backups (which i do not have and cannot create) now after reinstalling the system again and spending several hours reconfiguring things, running fsck a couple times every so often and finding nothing wrong, i did some more work and noticed a cron job ran causing a lot of disk activity (locate database building or something) so i checked the filesystems again and the root filesystem was again ruined just like before! this time i had made backups of /bin /sbin /etc /boot /lib /root and such into tar archives on the /home partition (/ is the ONLY partition to be damaged, other then filetype errors that are always there on /var which i have mentioned before but never got reply on) i ran e2fsck -c and redirected all its output to a floppy so i could have a reference, after it finished `fixing' everything by mostly moving everything into lost+found in the form of inode numbers and restored the tar archives i had made since everything was ruined anyway, after after restoring most of them the kernel spat out a few errors about blocks or some such and the filesystem went totally hosed again, no commands worked any more since apparently the kernel could not read /sbin and /bin (though i could get listings using sash's built in ls) rebooting resulted in a kernel panic no init found. I am beginning to think that the disk may be going bad but badblocks e2fsck -c mke2fs -c all report no bad blocks. this is an IDE disk. is there any other way to find out if the disk is at fault or is this the kernel? I am running 2.2.13 on a different machine and have been since it came out and have had no problems with it, except for the constant filetype errors that show up on the /var filesystem but they seem to be minor and not hurt anything that i can see. would the fsck output be useful to anyone more knowledgeable about the filesystem than I in determining whether this is hardware or software related? (I can send it to anyone who is interested, if only in admiring the completness of the ruination. the log file is about 64000 bytes.) I have read there is still reports of filesystem corruption in the stable kernels but it has been mostly unreproducable, if that is what is happening here it looks like i can reproduce it just fine :| I tend to think this is not a kernel problem since the 6 other mounted filesystems are completely undamaged after / gets hosed... any other pointers on where I should go from here on troubleshooting this problem? Ethan
Re: apt-get can not remount /usr ro. How to use lsof to find the offending files?
On 23/12/99 Shaul Karl wrote: Can it be that the removed files are not the problem with the failure of the remounting? [04:17:04 /tmp]# mount -o remount,ro /usr/ mount: /usr is busy [04:19:08 /tmp]# lsof +L1 |grep /usr/ [04:19:16 /tmp]# if you are running 4.43 of lsof (the first version to support +L ) then that would appear to not be the problem for you, I am not sure what would be causing it then, other then some braindamaged program opening something in /usr with write permission, this would violate FHS since /usr is supposed to be completly read-only mountable without disturbing anything. I just tested the +L and +L1 and it worked ok for me, I am running 4.43 of lsof, so its probably not lsof lying to you at least :) Ethan
Re: xscreensaver
Ok, Thinking closer to clearly I just forced the screen saver to xroger and on after 1 min. I haven't changed anything and now it's working. Really bloody odd. Thus spake John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Robert L. Harris writes: According to apt-get, I have that at the newest version installed already. hasler//u/home/john dpkg -S xroger gnome-control-center: /usr/share/control-center/.data/xroger.png -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting.| and defintely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. http://www.rnd-consulting.com/~nomad DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: Mirror transformation of the Postscript files
On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Alexey Petrov wrote: Hi All, I have need in mirror transformation of the Postscript files for printing on the transparence. I should be glad for any idea. Alexey, This may sound like a dumb question - but cant you just flip the transparency onto its other side? Regards, Jor-el You have all eternity to be cautious in when you're dead. -- Lois Platford
Re: Detecting IBM 13.5GB IDE HDD---anyone?
On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, aphro wrote: are you running the latest BIOS ? 7.9GB is quite common on older boards as a limitation (32GB is another barrier) make sure you got the latest bios and the drive should be in LBA mode i believe. I just installed corel 1.0 on an IBM 18GB ide and it went fine (AOpen AP5T-3 i430TX mainboard) nate On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Alan E. Davis wrote: adavis Installing potato. My system is as follows: adavisMainboard: ASUS P5A adavisCPU:K6-II 400 adavis adavis What is sfdisk? Is it on the install disks---apparently not? I have attempted to follow the Large Disk HOWTO and jumpered the drive as a 15 Head drive, as suggested. Otherwise it was detected at 500MB. adavis adavis I only see 7.9 GB. Several different BIOS parameters don't improve the situation. adavis adavis Has anyone on this list succeeded at this? adavis adavis Alan Davis adavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] adavis adavis adavis -- adavis Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null adavis Nate, This was a question originated by Wichert Akkerman on linux-kernel around the beginning of this month. If you look at the archives of the linux-kernel around at time, you should find a lot of comments regarding this problem. Here is one of them : http://boudicca.tux.org/hypermail/linux-kernel/1999week50/0753.html Regards, Jor-el You have all eternity to be cautious in when you're dead. -- Lois Platford
Xscreensaver Modules crashes X
I have the standard xscreensaver installed on my Slink server. I have it set to random. When it loads the penetrate demo it locks up the system. I have to turn off the system and reboot. NOT GOOD! Can anyone tell me how to remove this demo module? -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Re: massive root filesystem corruption
I had similar problems. I thought it was my IDE drive but then I finally ran memtest86 (from hwtools) and it found that one of my 128MB DIMMs was bad. Give it a try. 4 passes is apparently a complete run. ...RickM...
HD boot/Potato 2.2.13
I installed 2.2.13 from dwnld floppies it runs fine from the boot floppy. It hangs with the hard disk boot. There may be no boot record on hd? I'm using a 13.7 Gig HD, 100 MHz '486. This same box with a smaller HD boots runs Slink without a prob. Any suggestions? TIA.
Re: Undeletable File Causing Massive Headaches
Finally! Some real assistance! :) Strangely enough though, lsattr is just sitting here ... I'm not sure if this is normal or not. I'll let it sit for 30 min to make sure it has enough time to do whatever it is it is doing. What exactly is an immutable file though? Thanks for the replies! Like I said, this is pretty much driving me insane. Eliot Landrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Ethan Benson wrote: On 25/12/99 Eliot Landrum wrote: root (superuser) is unable to delete, chmod, modify, move or do ANYTHING to this file. I've done gazillions of things to try and correct it. I've booted up with tomsrtbt, fsck'ed the disk many times, run badblocks on it, tried deleting it when the drive was not mounted as / and many many other things that people have suggested. Here is what i get when root does rm -Rf /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4: sounds like a immutable file, even though those permissions are totally wrong that is irrelevant to root, if you are getting operation not permitted for every action on it i would suspect immutability, try lsattr /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 if you see sometihng like this: ---i--- /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 then its immutable, run chattr -i /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 then try and remove it. how it got that way i would sure like to know though... -- Ethan Benson To obtain my PGP key: http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/pgp/
[Linux: DNS-Server] Hardware requirements
Hello, can anyone tell me please, whats the minimum requirement for a non caching real primary DNS-Server ??? I will have around 20-30 Domain-Names with around 60-80 Hosts. The Hosts are running on a K6 II-350 and a virtual Apache. Is a 486 enough ??? Which speed ??? I have for testing a Cx486dx40 with 64 MByte of ram and a Conner CFS 210A with Debian 2.1 and Bind 8.2.x. How many Domains/Hosts can I run with it and whats the traffic ??? Thanks for your Help Michelle
Newbie seeks help...
Hi All... First of all, I am a newbie (in terms of Debian, before switching from RedHat)... Still I have managed to install and currently run Debian... But a few things still bother me... 1) why won't LILO install because my HD is to big? (and how to overrule) 2) how do you connect using ISDN (a simple answar, please)? 3) how do you configure a sound-card to be used with Debian? - Kenneth
Re: Trouble with /dev/tty vs. /dev/ttyX
Thanks, this did the trick. SH == Scott Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SH /dev/tty is a psuedo-tty that is always the current tty SH (whether a real one, a serial port, or a pty). You need read SH and write access to it. -- Joseph M. Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Biomedical Engineering 1402 Seamans Center University of Iowa Iowa City, IA 52242 Phone: 319-335-5634 Fax: 319-335-5631
~/.Xresources - oclock*Stick: true
Can I set a flag in the ~/.Xresources file so that the oclock will always have the sticky feature set to true? What is the correct syntax? Where can I learn more about the X resources?
safe to upgrade slink to potato?
I recall seeing many posts about systems being rendered unusable or broken after upgrade from Slink to Potato. Is this still a problem? I do not want to try it if I will just break my system. thanks -- Andrew - GnuPG Public KeyID: 0x48109681 *we all live downstream*
Re: Undeletable File Causing Massive Headaches
Eliot Landrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EL Finally! Some real assistance! :) EL EL Strangely enough though, lsattr is just sitting here ... I'm not sure if EL this is normal or not. I'll let it sit for 30 min to make sure it has EL enough time to do whatever it is it is doing. EL EL What exactly is an immutable file though? From the changelog of linux's ext2 fs source: - New file attributes: - Immutable files cannot be modified. Data cannot be written to these files. They cannot be removed, renamed and new links cannot be created. Even root cannot modify the files. He has to remove the immutable attribute first. - Append-only files: can only be written in append-mode when writing. They cannot be removed, renamed and new links cannot be created. Note: files may only be added to an append-only directory. - No-dump files: the attribute is not used by the kernel. My port of dump uses it to avoid backing up files which are not important. -- Anthony Wong.
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
Pollywog wrote: I recall seeing many posts about systems being rendered unusable or broken after upgrade from Slink to Potato. Is this still a problem? I do not want to try it if I will just break my system. I am a reformed Red Hat user. I've upgraded to potato on both my machines, and have had no significant problems, other than the occasional updated package that is broken. These are usually fixed in a day or two, and info about them is always available on this list. I use linux exclusively, and am happy with potato. I would assume that others who might use their boxes differently than I do, such as for networking, may have had other experiences and may be able to shed more light on the subject. Les Eckert
palm pilot vs visor
Hi- I am kind of following along with this and am wondering if people are using jpilot to link their visors? If they are palm compliant, will jpilot see these and provide true desktop-palmtop integration? I am using now a Casio E100 which is quite nice (except for the OS) and it has some nice speed and program enhancements which I enjoy like playing MP3's and voice recording. Thanks. -- Michael Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Really?
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:03:12 +0200 (SAST) From: Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Debian-poslys debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: unrouteable mail domain I hope you all have a blessed Christmas weekend. I get this error sometimes So do I. =) On the other listserv I'm on last Christmas we even had somebody tell us all we were going to hell if we weren't Christians and would burn eternally, as part of his Merry Christmas greeting. I replied telling him to stuff it and got chided by the list moderators. Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 12:38:37 -0600 From: Lyno Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: GnuPG stands for ...? At 09:23 AM 12/25/99 -0800, Fish Smith wrote: Okay, if PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy, does that mean GnuPG stands for GNU Pretty Good? I don't know how this title conveys encryption... I agree that GNU is Pretty Good, though. My guess is that the full name is recursive AND a palindrome. GnuPGPunG, folded back over itself (in the manner of a palindrome) becomed GnuPG. It could stand for GNU Pretty Good Privacy UNder GNU or, perhaps, GNU Pretty Good Privacy Uses Namesake GNU. That's my theory :-) Naah, I think they just took GNU Privacy Guard and initialed it GPG as a take-off on PGP. That other stuff is just a coincidince. Right now I'm on two listservs, one for a collectible card game, and then this one. Did you know ccg(collectible card game) backwards is gcc (GNU C compiler)? Just something I noticed. -- Copyright(c) 1999 Lyno Sullivan; this work is free and may be copied, modified and distributed under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html and it comes with absolutely NO WARRANTY; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Darn, this means I can't use my normal procedure of citing only the text in the message I reply to. Because your email is copyrighted and LGPLed I have to attach your name to it. = Fish of Borg Visit me on the web! http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Frontier/4874/stccg.html ///Archaeologists near mount Sinai have discovered what appears to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read To my Darling Candy. All Characters portrayed within this book are fictitious and any resemblance to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental.///Red Dwarf _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Mirror transformation of the Postscript files
On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Alexey Petrov wrote: Hi All, I have need in mirror transformation of the Postscript files for printing on the transparence. I should be glad for any idea. I'd suggest using CUPS instead of standard lpd. (package cupsys from unstable). This kind of stuff is done by just specifying -o mirror option to the lpr command. There is much more good to it. Unfortunately the best part - the GUI interface and the drivers to several hundreds of printers are commercial (I've got a multiuser package for our department - very cool). But the generic drivers should be enough for most of the typical situations, especially if you have a PostScript printer. I hope at some point the CUPS is going to be THE standard. Sergey.
Processed: this is an unimplemented feature of update-inetd
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reassign 25816 netbase Bug#25816: xinetd use is problematic Bug#10059: xinetd: inetd.conf changes don't auto-propagate to xinetd.conf Bug reassigned from package `general' to `netbase'. merge 8927 25816 Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf Bug#25816: xinetd use is problematic Bug#10059: xinetd: inetd.conf changes don't auto-propagate to xinetd.conf Merged 8927 10059 25816. thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Netscape 4.07 problem: Issuer Certificate is invalid
I have searched netscape.com to no avail and I am hoping someone can help me. I used to and still access a site using netscape 4.03 running some Java scripts program. Now I was foolish to want to install the latest netscape 4.07 and I am very dissappointed. First I see no improvements except frequent crashes and secondly my favourite investment site no longer works. It fails with the message Issuer Certificate is invalid and Java/Javascripts no longer works. Anyone knows what are my options. Secondly I hate the Debian installer that requires me to register with netscape. Is this big brother watching? If Opera becomes stable, there will not be any reason why I would want to use netscape with its fat size. Anyway can anyone help me access my favourite site: www.bfanet.com /--/ Daniel J. Mashao Electrical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Cape Town http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel Rondebosch, 7700, S. Africa (w) 27+21+650 2816 (h) 27+21+705 8469 /--/
Re: [apt] Sets of packages that run the same command.
Hamish Moffatt wrote: What would be the advantage of this? It seems to take only a few seconds to run anyway. Beleice me, it takes longer on my low-end pentium. Let's not even discuss my 486. The real problem is it's cumilitive; on a single upgrade it may be run 10 times, which translates to 5 minutes or more of disk thrashing. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new toy story release names
From: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new toy story release names Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 00:52:16 + (GMT) At the rate we are getting releases out, there should be a new Toy Story out before we use up these new names... If there would be more frequent releases we migth be able to keep up to phase with (virtual) reality. No? Cheers, Magnus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEB files
*- On 26 Dec, Tux wrote about DEB files Hello, How to create .deb files? http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ 1) Is there a postscript version of this doc somewhere? 2) On my system, a bug with html2ps does not seems to get solved. What are the alternatives?
Re: Quake is GPL
--envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 09:45:52AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: I'm confused; are you saying that quake source is legal in Germany, but binaries aren't!? If that's not what you mean, what solution are you referring to? =20 No, I'm not saying that the source or the binaries are legal. I'm only suggesting that we put a installer package for quake in potato that should download the source or binaries from a server, which is located in a location where it's not illegal. I will NOT do that for a piece of GPL code. I flatly refuse, and it's my package. --=20 Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Linux developer http://tank.debian.net GnuPG key pub 1024D/DCF9DAB3 sub 2048g/3F9C2A43 http://www.debian.org20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 Bruce McKinney, author of of Hardcore Visual Basic, has announced that he's fed up with VB and won't be writing a 3rd edition of his book. The best quote is at the end: 'I don't need a language designed by a focus group'. --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: The default gpg comment sucks! ; iEYEAREBAAYFAjhmjOQACgkQj/fXo9z52rNs0gCfbwdZgKCXZnT8VuVs1d+SsVy3 4xsAnAu0Pp69e+ETO2n2xtSYIizZSXxi =VBTB -END PGP SIGNATURE- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: Quake is GPL
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 02:22:55PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: On 99-12-26 Raul Miller wrote: So how about volunteering to contact those ftp maintainers and let them know about their governments' laws? And how has enough knowledge to do this? For example here in Germany you need to be a lawyer to really understand all the laws and to decide what you could have on your FTP-Server and what not. So get a German lawyer to decide this, and let us know the results. Or play it safe, and stop mirroring quake and other packages that you expect to bring you problems. Why do you keep expecting that the author/maintainer of a package will know your country's laws better than you do? I would certainly not risk giving such legal advice myself. Who knows, Lintian may be illegal in Verweggistan for some reason. Richard Braakman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/profile should include sbin in PATH
On Fri, Dec 24, 1999 at 06:16:36PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: The GNU project adopted /sbin because ordinary users should not be burdened with executables that they *cannot* run usefully. (Which is in fact the same reason that they are in /etc or /sbin in BSD.) I would be somewhat happier if that were the language in the FHS or Debian policy. However, there are many programs in sbin that are useful for ordinary users including the two explicitly listed in the FSSTND, traceroute and ifconfig. Ideally, they possibly shouldn't be. Why is traceroute in /sbin anyway? It's automatically setuid - doesn't this make putting it in /sbin pointless? I personally don't buy this logic at all for two reasons: 1) Nobody has been able to explain why these programs are a burden There's no point in having programs like shutdown, fdisk etc. in the users' path, and having them there could irritate in, for exanple, tab completion. I guess I propose that either of two things happen: 1) /sbin and /usr/sbin are put into everyone's path. Is there any other immediate solution? [snip] or there's a third solution 3) abolish /sbin and /usr/sbin and put these binaries in /bin and /usr/sbin. Make symlinks so scripts still work. This is kind of ugly. Obviously the path of least resistance at least for potato is (1). But it's not a good long-term solution, as it makes /sbin pointless. Right? -- alisdair mcdiarmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [burnt toast is what comes of trying to do too many things at once] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Logging user's logging in
On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **Please CC all replies to me - I'm not currently subscribed** Furthermore, I might also want to JUST log when root logs in, or when someone's sus into root - how would I do this? I believe this is a default in Debian. At least, my system logs these automatically, and I don't recall ever configuring it to. Dec 26 13:50:40 debian login[11524]: ROOT LOGIN on `tty4' Dec 26 13:52:11 debian su[17277]: + tty2 hypnos-root The first line shows a root login on tty4. The second line shows that on tty2, hypnos su'd to root.
Re: FTP Installation Instructions
On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Hagen Finley wrote: site. However, in spite of that, I remain unclear where I deposit the Debian ftp download and how I initiate the installation. Do I create a boot floppy and point it to a installation directory? Can someone point me to some documentation that addresses installing from a ftp download? This is why I think Debian is the distribution which is easiest to install. If you are going to an FTP install, you only need to download approximately 10 MB of files (the base files). If you are installing Debian onto a machine that is in a networked environment (such as your work place, where you have access to other *nix machines), you can copy these files to one of those other machines (if you can mount one of their directories via NFS). Otherwise, you'll need to copy the base files to floppies (I believe it takes 7 3.5 floppies). And, of course, you'll need a boot floppy. You start the installation with the boot floppy, tell it (the installation program) where the base files are located (on floppies, on an NFS share, etc.) and it will install those. Debian's automated installation then takes over. You go through the list of available packages and select which ones you want installed. The installation program will then connect to an FTP server, download the packages you selected, and install them, without any work from you. I tried to explain it briefly and simply, but it sounds more complicated than it is. When I was new to linux, I tried installing both Slackware and Redhat, having different problems with each. I then moved to Debian, and I've been running it on multiple machines every since. HTH.
Re: moving to a bigger harddisk - weird (?) problem
ok, I figured it out. for the records, there where several steps necessary: - an extra append when booting from cd-rom rescue root=/dev/hda2 hda=49585,16,63 - _careful_ and __complete__ reading of the Hard-Disk-Upgrade - mini-Howto: 10. ...With Debian, make sure that the boot line says /dev/hda rather than /dev/hda1 or similar if you want to install LILO on the Master Boot Record. - now, of course, the rest was editing lilo.conf appropriate :-/ echo RTFM $self I still don´t know why the kernel detects another CHS depending on whether the disk is primary or secondary master ... -- - ___ - Robert WaldnerEUnet/AT tech staff // / ___ _/_ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] RW960-RIPE --- /--- / / / / /___/ / --- ---EUnet EDV-DienstleistungsgesmbH--- -- /___ /___/ / / /___ /_ Diefenbachgasse 35A-1150 Wien - - Tel: +43 1 89933 Fax: +43 1 89933 533
Re: DEB files
*- On 26 Dec, Shaul Karl wrote about Re: DEB files *- On 26 Dec, Tux wrote about DEB files Hello, How to create .deb files? http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ 1) Is there a postscript version of this doc somewhere? Check your local Debian mirror in the doc/package-developer/ directory: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/ 2) On my system, a bug with html2ps does not seems to get solved. What are the alternatives? Don't know. Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Emacs 20.5
Hello: Does anyone know if there is a .deb available for Emacs 20.5 suitable for slink? I know that there was some discussion of including it in the current stable release but I didn't see a definitive announcement and it doesn't seem to be in the current 2.1r4. It would be nice to have the final Y2K tweaks for emacs before the Big Day. Thanks for your help, Jim McCloskey
Re: Quake is GPL
--UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 02:37:04PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: I would *personally* make sure that I was in compliance with the relevant laws. If I felt that that would take too much of my time, then I would stop mirroring. =20 Just because a big group of developers isn't able to provide a solution for such cases which is better then stop mirroring?=20 So far your attitude has been Take quake out of Debian entirely now or I will shut down my mirror because I don't have time to make sure my mirror is legal and I want you to do it for me. If that's how it has to be, that's how it has to be. You're better to stop mirroring. --=20 Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Linux developer http://tank.debian.net GnuPG key pub 1024D/DCF9DAB3 sub 2048g/3F9C2A43 http://www.debian.org20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 * Knghtktty whispers sweet nothings to Thyla (stuff about compilers and graphics and ram upgrades and big hard drives...) Thyla oOO Infinitas Knghtktty: that's positively pornographic... * Thyla goes off into fits of ecstasy... --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: The default gpg comment sucks! ; iEYEAREBAAYFAjhmk7oACgkQj/fXo9z52rN2yACePAcTxpQVaG1u+Tjz9mqERcI3 RCYAnjP37UZPeJnHPjSUqB6kzhTgcyvX =dM8v -END PGP SIGNATURE- --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: Quake is GPL
--T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 99-12-26 Joseph Carter wrote: On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 02:37:04PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: I would *personally* make sure that I was in compliance with the relevant laws. If I felt that that would take too much of my time, then I would stop mirroring. Just because a big group of developers isn't able to provide a solution for such cases which is better then stop mirroring? So far your attitude has been Take quake out of Debian entirely now or I will shut down my mirror because I don't have time to make sure my mirror is legal and I want you to do it for me. If that's how it has to be, that's how it has to be. You're better to stop mirroring. You definitely misunderstand what I write. You assume things that I don't write. Plese stop this or this discussion want reach far. I want to provide every FTP-Maintainer with a mechanismen which makes it easier for them to mirror only those packages that are legal. Nothing else. Ciao Christian -- * Christian Kurz Debian Developer/QA-Team * * Use Debian - a free Operating System * --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.0a (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjhmh1kACgkQqeZn/ybMeFMP5gCeL076LuW1lM2w8zPWYY1NY1jk fwAAoLESpwEx1Hxov7PqNh+k/2NRbm5C =8TH7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: palm pilot vs visor
Saturday, December 25, 1999, 9:39:18 PM, Hagen wrote: price for hardware, the Visor is significantly superior to the IIIx. The It all depends. Visor is purportedly equivalent to the PalmVx with 8MB RAM and the latest screen enhancements. That is if he gets the expensive Visor. The base Visor comes with 2Mb just like the IIIe/Ve do. The Visor does have something like a 4 to 6 week backorder from Handspring and I have yet to see it marketed elsewhere. They are getting swamped with orders. It is a manufacturing problem. If they were marketed elsewhere the backlog would still be there. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 07:42:37PM -, Pollywog wrote: On 26-Dec-1999 kometboy wrote: [Updating to potato] Thanks for your thoughts on the subject. I could be wrong, but it seems I saw more than a few posts from people who had upgraded and had some not-so-minor problems. Unless someone says ...no, don't do it because... I probably will try it. Well, I broke my system completely a few weeks ago with a simple (segfaulting) 'apt-get dist-upgrade' while I was running potato for months without serious problems. There was no chance to repair it; I couldn't even boot, and I didn't manage to repair it using a rescue disk. The only sollution was to install the whole system new from the scratch. :-( But I'd say that potato is stable enough to use it without serious problems. HTH Ciao Tobias -- .signature lost... -- Andrew -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --
Installing an older compiler
Hi, I had to install some packages from unstable on my Slink system, and the dependencies forced an upgrade of the compiler to gcc 2.95.2). However, the 2.0 kernels wont compile with this. Is there a way to also install the standard Slink compiler on my system so that I can use it to compile the kernel? TIA, Jor-el You have all eternity to be cautious in when you're dead. -- Lois Platford
Re: What's the deal with .gnome-desktop?
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 11:26:32PM -0500, Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to the few replies, I got it copied, however the links are not quite working the same. On my system, the floppy and cd-rom links pop open a gmc windows open to the correct paths, however, it does not mount the relavent device. And the little menus you get when you right click on them are different. On the source system you have options like unmount and eject While I just have the typical open properties etc etc.. Instead of copying his .gnome-desktop, just right-click on the desktop and select the Recreate Default Icons item. This should create the device icons, with the proper mount/umount/eject menu items. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgpyC81KaA6C9.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Dla mnie jest super, że jest strona o Debianie, mały problem po co ona jest skoro i tak najważniejsze rzeczy są w języku angielskim, po co marnować miejsce na serwerze. Może da się coś z tym zrobić? [POLBOX - REKLAMA] -- Zrob swiateczne zakupy w EMPiK.com. Do 31 grudnia http://www.Empik.com przesyla zamowione towary GRATIS! --
Re: xscreensaver
On 26 Dec 1999, John Hasler wrote: : Robert L. Harris writes: : According to apt-get, I have that at the newest version installed : already. : : hasler//u/home/john dpkg -S xroger : gnome-control-center: /usr/share/control-center/.data/xroger.png [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ dpkg -S xroger xscreensaver: /usr/X11R6/man/man1/xroger.1.gz xscreensaver: /usr/X11R6/bin/xroger gnome-control-center: /usr/share/control-center/.data/xroger.png Should be in the xscreensaver package (potato; just updated 30 minutes ago). The xroger.png will be of little use, I'm afraid - it's an icon. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On 26-Dec-1999 Tobias Zimpel wrote: Well, I broke my system completely a few weeks ago with a simple (segfaulting) 'apt-get dist-upgrade' while I was running potato for months without serious problems. There was no chance to repair it; I couldn't even boot, and I didn't manage to repair it using a rescue disk. The only sollution was to install the whole system new from the scratch. :-( But I'd say that potato is stable enough to use it without serious problems. I am running potato on my other machine, but I want to upgrade my laptop from Slink to Potato. If I understand correctly, you had to install a whole new Potato system from scratch. That is exactly what I want to avoid; I want to upgrade the system I have now. thanks -- Andrew
[OFFTOPIC] Article- getting SB Live to work under Linux
I have seen several recent posts from people who could not get their SB Live card to work under Linux. If you have problems with this card, you might check out the article at: http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/soundcards/sblive.html -- Andrew - GnuPG Public KeyID: 0x48109681 *we all live downstream*
Loadlin and DidkOnChip
I pulled loadlin off the Debian Slink CD and loaded it onto my C: (DiskOnChip device) and tried to boot linux with the following MS--DOS command: c:\loadlin\loadlin c:\linux root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=3 and got the message not an Image file. I am a Linux novice and not quite sure what is going on. Rather than trashing my system by doing something less than smart, I thought I would ask for a brief explanation of the issue and what my appropriate remedy might be. Thanks for the help.
Printer configuration
Ok, Redhat has a neat little control panel that makes installing printers and filters very easy. Does debian have anything comparable or do I need to learn the printcap for lprng? Robert :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting.| and defintely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. http://www.rnd-consulting.com/~nomad DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
logging ppp
syslog-ng in potato (which replaced syslog) uses /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf instead of /etc/syslog.conf. There is a sample conf file in usr/share/doc/syslog-ng, but when I tried the ppp /examples in this, they do not seem to work. Putting a local2 line in /etc/syslog.conf (which is now included in sysklogd) doesn't work anymore either. I'd like to be able to use plog, but don't know how to get ppp to write to /var/log/ppp.log under this new configuration. Can someone point me in the right direction. Bob -- Bob Nielsen, W6SWE (RN2)Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ DM42nhAMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] QRP-L #1985 http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
