Ficheros de configuración de Tcl/Tk.

1999-12-30 Thread EMILIO HERNÁNDEZ MARTÍN

Hola.

Estoy intentando instalar una plataforma multiagente en mi ordenador
pero al hacer el 'configure' me ha dado problemas con los ficheros de
configuración de Tcl/Tk. Yo tengo tcl7.6 / tk4.2 y también la versión 8.0 de
ambos, pero sólo tengo instalados los paquetes tcl7.6, tcl8.0, tk4.2 y
tk8.0. Tengo disponibles (pero no instalados) los paquetes tcl7.6-dev,
tcl8.0-dev, tk4.2-dev y tk8.0-dev.

El problema que tengo es que el 'configure' no encuentra los ficheros
tclConfig.sh y tkConfig.sh porque esos ficheros no aparecen en mi Linux.
¿Sabe alguien cuáles son los ficheros equivalentes de configuración de
Tcl/Tk? Creo que son los tclsh8.0, etc. o algo así, pero no estoy seguro.
Tampoco encuentra un fichero llamado tk-4.2.h que tampoco tengo, ni siquiera
tengo algún .h parecido. Me dice que utilice unas opciones para indicarle la
trayectoria y los nombres de los ficheros de configuración que os digo, pero
no sé cuales son esos ficheros.

Muchas gracias anticipadas por vuestra ayuda y feliz 2000.

Emilio.


Re: Te arde el ojete? Sentis el giñe cansado?

1999-12-30 Thread Andres Herrera
Guenas

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RE: libdpkg ¿dónde la encuentro?

1999-12-30 Thread Tejada Lacaci, Antonio
 -Mensaje original-
 De:   Cosme P. Cuevas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviado el:   miércoles 29 de diciembre de 1999 8:24
 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Asunto:   Re: libdpkg ¿dónde la encuentro?
 
 El Tue, Dec 28, 1999,
 Tejada Lacaci, Antonio...
 
  ¿Alguien sabe en qué paquete puedo encontrar la libdpkg? ...
  sólo la he ...
 
 # dpkg -S libdpkg
 dpkg: /usr/lib/libdpkg.so.0.0.0
 dpkg: /usr/lib/libdpkg.so
 dpkg: /usr/lib/libdpkg.so.0
 dpkg: /usr/lib/libdpkg.la
 dpkg: /usr/lib/libdpkg.a
 
 
 Así   que   desde   Debian,   _deberías_   tenerla   instalada
 forzosamente. 
Nopes, porque la unstable no trae la libdpkg ni en dpkg ni en
dpkg-dev

 Lo  que yo  he  entendido que  quieres hacer  es
 utilizar ese paquete de storm en la Debian, ¿no?
Sipes, ya lo he hecho y va la mar de bien :), el storm package
manager mola requete ;D

 Y  al   revés,  de  todas  formas,   también  debería  tenerla
 instalada. A lo  mejor este  programa la  busca en  otro sitio
 (?!)
Nopes, el problema es que el paquete dpkg de la potato (unstable)
¡no tiene la libdpkg!, he tenido que pillarme el dpkg de la slink y
descomprimir a lo bestia la lib en el directorio /lib y ¡funciona!

 O hay  un problema de  versión (como  dices que es  una Debian
 actualizada) si estás con Slink.
Massomenos, pero no exactamente.

 Un saludo.
 
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Re: Problemas con una Intranet con Linux

1999-12-30 Thread Manel Marin
On Tue, Dec 28, 1999 at 07:51:47AM -0600, Lucky wrote:
 Tengo  dos PC's (A i B) y los quiero conectar entre ellos para compartir
 datos. Lo quiero hacer con Linux y he usado el 'netcfg' para configurarlos.

¿Que es el netcfg? en mi Citius Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 no aparece en dselect ¿?


 Un vez configurados hago a cada uno un Ping a el mismo y funciona.

El ping a ti mismo utiliza el interface loopback lo (y no el eth0) por lo
que no depende de la targeta de red...


 Si hago un Ping de A a B obtengo respuesta, peró de B a A no hay ninguna
 respuesta.

¿Es una inocentada?

Siempre he pensado que si el ping te funciona desde una maquina a otra TODO va
bien en las dos (cable de red, targetas, drivers, kernel).

¿Hay routers por medio?
¿Has montado un cortafuegos de filtrado de paquetes en la maquina que no
responde? A lo mejor has prohibido los icmp de salida en eth0...

Si no es eso prueba con otro kernel ¿uno estable? que a lo mejor hay un bug
en los driver de la targeta de red
¿que targetas utilizas?, ¿son iguales las dos?


 Una vez funcione esto, ¿Que tengo que hacer para compartir datos?

Si quieres que los Windozes accedan a los datos instala SAMBA
Si lo haces desde otros Unixes utiliza el NFS
Si solo quieres mover datos de un PC al otro prueba la opcion FTP link... del
mc, es un vicio...

 
 Gracias.

De nada


Saludos y feliz año nuevo
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] me cuelgan el modem desde afuera

1999-12-30 Thread Paco Brufal
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Agustin MuNoz wrote:

 Creo que era algo así: ping -p 2b2b2b415448300d $1 donde $1 es la IP,

¿+++ATH0? ¿No es simplemente +++ATH? :?

Si quieres saber cómo pertenecer a
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Re: Ficheros de configuración de Tcl/Tk.

1999-12-30 Thread DRodriguez
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El jue, 30 dic 1999, EMILIO HERNÁNDEZ MARTÍN escribió:
 Hola.
 
 Estoy intentando instalar una plataforma multiagente en mi ordenador
 pero al hacer el 'configure' me ha dado problemas con los ficheros de
 configuración de Tcl/Tk. Yo tengo tcl7.6 / tk4.2 y también la versión 8.0 de
 ambos, pero sólo tengo instalados los paquetes tcl7.6, tcl8.0, tk4.2 y
 tk8.0. Tengo disponibles (pero no instalados) los paquetes tcl7.6-dev,
 tcl8.0-dev, tk4.2-dev y tk8.0-dev.

El problema es, si no me equivoco, que solo deberias tener una version de
tcl/tk, es decir, purgar tk4.2* y tcl7.6*, y asi las dependencias deberian fun-
cionar, a mi me paso y despues de purgar las versiones antiguas todo me
fue correctamente. 

Si me equivoco... :?

 
 El problema que tengo es que el 'configure' no encuentra los ficheros
 tclConfig.sh y tkConfig.sh porque esos ficheros no aparecen en mi Linux.
 ¿Sabe alguien cuáles son los ficheros equivalentes de configuración de
 Tcl/Tk? Creo que son los tclsh8.0, etc. o algo así, pero no estoy seguro.
 Tampoco encuentra un fichero llamado tk-4.2.h que tampoco tengo, ni siquiera
 tengo algún .h parecido. Me dice que utilice unas opciones para indicarle la
 trayectoria y los nombres de los ficheros de configuración que os digo, pero
 no sé cuales son esos ficheros.
 
 Muchas gracias anticipadas por vuestra ayuda y feliz 2000.
 
 Emilio.
 
 
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acentos a paseo con potato

1999-12-30 Thread Miquel
hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED]

con la ultima actualizacion de potato me he quedado sin acentos ni
enyes: ni los puedo escribir ni los puedo visualizar. 
Parece que tiene que ver con la config de locales. Perl me daba 
este mensaje:


perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LC_ALL = es_ES,
LC_MESSAGES = es,
LC_CTYPE = es_ES.ISO-8859-1,
LANG = es_ES
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).


tengo instalado todo lo que tiene que ver con locales (creo), y hasta
ayer mismo me funcionaba perfectamente. (Tampoco he anyadido nada nuevo) 
El kernel carga bien el mapa de teclado (de hecho, antes de logearme
puedo introducir enyes y acentos).  

A alguien mas le ha pasado?  
Alguna idea de como resolverlo?

un saludo y gracias,

miquel

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Re: acentos a paseo con potato

1999-12-30 Thread Alberto Sesma Bailador

  A mí PERL siempre se me quejaba de que no encontraba el locale
es. Pasé a utilizar el locales en_US y ahora puedo escribir acentos y
Perl ya no se queja. Eso sí, adiós a los mensajes en español.


El día 30/12/99 Miquel decía:

 hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 con la ultima actualizacion de potato me he quedado sin acentos ni
 enyes: ni los puedo escribir ni los puedo visualizar. 
 Parece que tiene que ver con la config de locales. Perl me daba 
 este mensaje:
 
 
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LC_ALL = es_ES,
 LC_MESSAGES = es,
 LC_CTYPE = es_ES.ISO-8859-1,
 LANG = es_ES
 are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).
 
 
 tengo instalado todo lo que tiene que ver con locales (creo), y hasta
 ayer mismo me funcionaba perfectamente. (Tampoco he anyadido nada nuevo) 
 El kernel carga bien el mapa de teclado (de hecho, antes de logearme
 puedo introducir enyes y acentos).  
 
 A alguien mas le ha pasado?  
 Alguna idea de como resolverlo?
 
 un saludo y gracias,
 
 miquel
   
 


Re: libdpkg ¿dónde la encuentro?

1999-12-30 Thread Agustin MuNoz
El jue, 30 de dic de 1999, a las 09:38:34 +0100,  Tejada Lacaci, Antonio  va 
y dice:

  Así   que   desde   Debian,   _deberías_   tenerla   instalada
  forzosamente. 
   Nopes, porque la unstable no trae la libdpkg ni en dpkg ni en
 dpkg-dev

Por si te interesa en mi Debian potato el libdpkg está en el gaby (una
agenda del gnome) curioso :D

~$ dpkg -S libdpkg
gaby: /usr/lib/gaby/plug-ins/formats/libdpkg.so.0.0.0
gaby: /usr/lib/gaby/plug-ins/formats/libdpkg.so
...

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Re: acentos a paseo con potato

1999-12-30 Thread Agustin MuNoz
El jue, 30 de dic de 1999, a las 01:34:48 +0100,  Miquel  va y dice:

 A alguien mas le ha pasado?  

Sipe a mi tb, y supongo que a unos cuantos más ;-)

 Alguna idea de como resolverlo?

# dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.1.2-10_all.deb

Amos que reinstales la versión anterior de locales y espera a que lo
arreglen O:)
 

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Otro intento de arrancar X windows con savage 3D

1999-12-30 Thread Miguel A. Abarca
LLevo más de una semana intentando poder arrancar el servidor de X 
windows
con mi tarjeta gráfica S3 Savage3D (primero con el servidor que incorporaba
la versión 3.3.5 de Xfree86, luego con el Framebuffer), ya por último he
localizado un servidor específico para la misma, lo he instalado,
configurado y, tampoco
El caso es que al utilizar XF86Setup para su configuración, al 
finalizar la
misma consigue arrancar el servidor, incluso puedo ejecutar el programa
xvidtune, pero después de guardar el fichero XF86Config y ejecutar startx,
nada de nada. De nuevo adjunto la información que se visualiza desde que
ejecuto startx (fichero x.log). Por cierto, el principio de cada una de
estas líneas es (--) o (**), ¿significa eso algo?
Os estaría muy agradecido si por fín logro trabajar en modo gráfico.

¡¡Feliz año nuevo -que no siglo nuevo, ni milenio-!!


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Impressão

1999-12-30 Thread Andre Leao Macedo
Olá,

Estou enviando essa mensagem para ver se alguém consegue me dar uma
luz numa das coisas mais simples do mundo. Uso Linux há algum tempo, mas
nunca me preocupei em colocar a minha impressora funcionando, o que eu
resolvi fazer agora. Fiz tudo da maneira correta: configurei o magicfilter
para a minha EPSON Stylus COLOR II (pelo que me parece ele tem suporte para
essa impressora) e indiquei o /dev/lp0 como o device. Mas quando eu mando
qualquer coisa para a impressora, não acontece nada e se eu dou lpq, aparece
uma mensagem do tipo:

Printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  'EPSON Stylus COLOR II'
 Queue: 1 printable job
  Server: pid 2137 active
   Unspooler: pid 2138 active
Status: cannot open '/dev/lp0' - 'Operation not supported by device',
attempt 1, sleeping 10 at 02:26:21
 Rank   Owner/ID   Class Job  Files   Size Time
 active  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  A  136 teste.txt   217 02:26:20

Acontece a mesma coisa se eu ponho a impressora em /dev/lp1 e
/dev/lp2. Alguém pode me dar uma idéia do que está errado?

Obrigado,
André Leão Macedo

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servidor proxy: problemas no servico ftp

1999-12-30 Thread gleydson
Jeff escreveu:
Ola,

Verifique o valor da opção request_size no arquivo
/etc/squid.conf, esta opção determina o tamanho 
máximo para download. O valor padrão após a instalação 
do Squid é de 1000 KB (1MB), procure aumenta-lo para 
1 KB ou mais.

Eu uso 3 MB que dá conta de todas as requisições 
ftp das máquinas que configuro. Não tenho certeza se 
esta configuração também afeta o tamanho dos uploads.

Após alterar a configuração, envie um sinal para o 
daemon Squid forçando a re-leitura do arquivo 
de configuração: squid -k reconfigure, e teste 
nas máquinas Win.


Olá colegas!.

Tenho uma maquina com Debian 2.1, atuando como servidor intranet +
proxy(smtp, pop, http, ipfw, squid...) e clientes windows.
Evitei instalar X-windows/aplicativos graficos para nao prejudicar o
desempenho e ficou ótimo;
Todos os servicos estao funcionando bem com execao do ftp: nao estou
conseguindo atualizar um antivirus, (norton 5), nas maquinas
clientes(windows).



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Re: servidor proxy: problemas no servico ftp

1999-12-30 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Jeff wrote:

 Olá colegas!.
 

provavelmente a conexão ftp é do tipo ativa, i.e., você estabelece a
conexão pela porta 21 e então o servidor ftp manda os dados estabelecendo
uma conexão para a sua porta 20 (ftp-data). Como você deve ter bloqueado
os pacotes que não tenham sido iniciados a partir da sua máquina
(firewall) o download não se completa.

solução (IPCHAINS-HOWTO):

permita conexões tcp nas portas 1024-5999 e acima de 6011.

você pode verificar isto fazendo uma conexão ftp para um servidor
qualquer: (por exemplo ftp.unicamp.br)

o default é conexão ativa. faça um ls e veja se tem algum resultado. 
no meu caso (também estou debaixo de um firewall, não recebo nada)

então refiz a conexão e digitei no prompt (primeiro comando apos a
autenticação) passive.
assim consegui interagir (ls, get, ...)

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Re: Impressão

1999-12-30 Thread Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe
Andre Leao Macedo wrote:
 
 Olá,
 
 Estou enviando essa mensagem para ver se alguém consegue me dar uma
 luz numa das coisas mais simples do mundo. Uso Linux há algum tempo, mas
 nunca me preocupei em colocar a minha impressora funcionando, o que eu
 resolvi fazer agora. Fiz tudo da maneira correta: configurei o magicfilter
 para a minha EPSON Stylus COLOR II (pelo que me parece ele tem suporte para
 essa impressora) e indiquei o /dev/lp0 como o device. Mas quando eu mando
 qualquer coisa para a impressora, não acontece nada e se eu dou lpq, aparece
 uma mensagem do tipo:
 
 Printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  'EPSON Stylus COLOR II'
  Queue: 1 printable job
   Server: pid 2137 active
Unspooler: pid 2138 active
 Status: cannot open '/dev/lp0' - 'Operation not supported by device',
 attempt 1, sleeping 10 at 02:26:21
  Rank   Owner/ID   Class Job  Files   Size Time
  active  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  A  136 teste.txt   217 02:26:20
 
 Acontece a mesma coisa se eu ponho a impressora em /dev/lp1 e
 /dev/lp2. Alguém pode me dar uma idéia do que está errado?

Tem a certeza que tem o seu kernel compilado com suporte para as portas
paralelas...

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Re: Impressão

1999-12-30 Thread Andre Leao Macedo
Olá,

Obrigado pela dica. Sabia que era alguma coisa imbecil :))). Está
funcionando perfeitamente...

On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 10:40:08AM +, Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe wrote:
 
   Tem a certeza que tem o seu kernel compilado com suporte para as portas
 paralelas...

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Re: Y2K fix for emacs19(potato/slink) and emacs20(slink)

1999-12-30 Thread Takuo KITAME / 北目 拓郎

 On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:52:22 -0700 (MST)
 RM == Rick Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...

RM On 29 Dec 1999, Takuo KITAME wrote:
 I think that emacs19 19.34(potato/slink) and emacs20 20.3(slink) has the y2k 
 problem in lisp/timezone.el.
 Are package maintainer or anybody working for fix this? or already fixed?
 
 Here is the fixed timezone.el.
 http://master.debian.org/~kitame/tmp/timezone.el
 (Thanks TSUCHIYA Masatoshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] !!) 

RM I'm running emacs 19.34, compiled back in Sep 1996, on Linux, Solaris and
RM IRIX64. I haven't found a definitive answer as to whether or not it has
RM Y2K problems.

RM Does anybody know if timezone.el is the only problem?

for example, please try following code.

% emacs19 -no-site-file -q

(progn
  (require 'timezone)
   (timezone-parse-date Sat, 1 Jan 00 07:00:00 JST))


;; then right ( Emacs-20.5 or XEmacs )
- [2000 1 1 07:00:00 JST]

;; then wrong ( before Emacs-20.4  )
- [1900 1 1 07:00:00 JST]

Note:
 If you have installed apel-10.0, y2k problem has been fixed with apel's 
 timezone.el.

Regards.
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Re: Upgrading slinkr1 -- r4

1999-12-30 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 12:21:12AM +0100, Konrad Mierendorff wrote:

 Now I have all the packages on my disk but when I put the tree into
 /etc/apt/sources.list and do an apt-get update it complains about
 missing Packages.gz files.

Use dpkg-scanpackages to do this.  Alternatively, dump the files into
apt's package cache and point apt at a Slink mirror.

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Re: kernel question

1999-12-30 Thread Paul J. Keenan
On Wed, Dec 29, 1999 at 11:51:50PM -, Pollywog wrote:
snip
 Do I need to make this symlink:
 
 ln -s /usr/src/linux/include /usr/include   ?
 
 I already have /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.2.13 symlinked to /usr/src/linux
 
 I already have a /usr/include, which was made when I installed Potato.
 
 BTW I am going to use the kernel-package to make a custom kernel.
 
 thanks
 
 --
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You don't need the kernel-headers package.  All the headers required are in
the kernel-source package.  You don't need the symlink either, the headers
are included from the right places automagically.  I've got neither and
can compile 2.2.13 no problems.

I don't profess to know how it all works, jusk that it works :-)

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Re: oracle 8.0.5 and glibc2.1 segfaults

1999-12-30 Thread Chris Schleifer
Remco van 't Veer wrote:
 I sure hope 8i runs on potato.  Can anybody confirm this?
 
 Regards,
 Remco
 

Hi,
It seems to work fine. Although I only installed it and haven't used it
much at all yet. I did do some imports which went normally though.


$ sqlplus

SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.5.0.0 - Production on Wed Dec 29 17:15:48 1999

(c) Copyright 1999 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.

Enter user-name: chris
Enter password: 

Connected to:
Oracle8i Release 8.1.5.0.0 - Production
With the Java option
PL/SQL Release 8.1.5.0.0 - Production

SQL quit
Disconnected from Oracle8i Release 8.1.5.0.0 - Production
With the Java option
PL/SQL Release 8.1.5.0.0 - Production

$ cat /etc/debian_version 
potato


Chris Schleifer


nfs

1999-12-30 Thread Brian Minton
do you know if there is a publicly available nfs or smb server that is a
debian mirror?

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Re: Allowing weak passwords

1999-12-30 Thread Daniel Barclay

So is there no way to disable the check for weak passwords
but leave everything else working the same way?

Daniel



what does E:Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) mean?

1999-12-30 Thread Joseph de los Santos

hello!

 When I try to install packages thru http using apt I get the message

  E:Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)

 what does this mean?

  I know that I have configured my sources.list correctly but when I try to 
execute apt-get update it does not work.thanks for any advice

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Re: what does E:Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) mean?

1999-12-30 Thread Mike Werner
Joseph de los Santos wrote:
 
 hello!
 
   When I try to install packages thru http using apt I get the message
 
E:Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
 
   what does this mean?
 
I know that I have configured my sources.list correctly but when I try to
 execute apt-get update it does not work.thanks for any advice

Are you absolutely sure?  That error message seems to mean that apt doesn't
think it's correct.  Try posting your sources.list file to the list.
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Re: syslog and hostname ?

1999-12-30 Thread Paul J. Keenan
On Wed, Dec 29, 1999 at 03:06:36PM -0800, aphro wrote:
 can someone tell me where syslog gets the hostname from?  its marking all
 my logs using the hostname localhost.
 
 my $HOSTNAME is still set to 'aphro'
 
 my /etc/hosts has a line:
 127.0.0.1 localhost aphro
 
 and i recently added a domain called 'aphro' to my local DNS so if i
 'nslookup aphro' it resolves to 10.10.10.1
 
 ever since i made the changes syslog thinkks the hostname is changed ..
 
 ideas ??
 
 
 thanks!!
 
 nate

The system hostname is set up at startup from /etc/init.d/hostname.sh
which is simply 

hostname --file /etc/hostname

So I would first check that /etc/hostname contains the single word
aphro.

It seems that the syslogd gets its info from calling uname(2), which
at kernel level invokes sys_gethostname in /usr/src/linux/kernel/sys.c

HTH.

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Re: Y2K fix for emacs19(potato/slink) and emacs20(slink)

1999-12-30 Thread Changwoo Ryu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Takuo KITAME) writes:

 RM I'm running emacs 19.34, compiled back in Sep 1996, on Linux, Solaris and
 RM IRIX64. I haven't found a definitive answer as to whether or not it has
 RM Y2K problems.
 
 RM Does anybody know if timezone.el is the only problem?
 
 for example, please try following code.
 
 % emacs19 -no-site-file -q
 
 (progn
   (require 'timezone)
(timezone-parse-date Sat, 1 Jan 00 07:00:00 JST))
 
 
 ;; then right ( Emacs-20.5 or XEmacs )
 - [2000 1 1 07:00:00 JST]

Why is this right?

Well, it is neither right nor wrong.  It's very nonsense to write the
year 2000 as the two digits, 00.

 ;; then wrong ( before Emacs-20.4  )
 - [1900 1 1 07:00:00 JST]

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Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread Svante Signell
Hi,

Here is a summary of the proposal for a common source file format:

- Good idea!
- Waste of time, Use configure; make; make install, Most packages are for Unix, 
not only Linux.
- Source management problems, no-one is interested in BOTH .rpms and .debs! 
What about experimental versions?
- For experimental packages, use dselect to put a hold on the new version.
- For debian, directory structure is important, not .dsc files.
- Good suggestion, decision is up to the package author!!
- How to ensure the .spec files are valid and functional?
- Reducing incompatibility between the variants of the GNU/Linux OS'es is a 
useful job.
- Hard to build good rpm's and deb's. Install to standard directories? What 
about FHS??
- GNU people participating in LSB work?
- Debian is not GNU!?
- After rms comments about LSB/GNU/Linux/... this thread turned into a flame 
war!! No more comments of technical nature any more. Sorry I thought it was an 
idea worth a better faith!! 

Binary formats: 
- Alien can be used, at least from .rpm to .deb
- rpm format to be used for binary packages in LSB.

People who replied: 
Iain Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
George Toft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk
Adam C Powell IV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cyberclay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chris Siebenmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Daniel Quinlan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Flaming replies not included!!

PS.
This mail has been written using GNU Emacs and VM. Wonderful software. What 
about gemacs, 
a gnomified version!? 
DS.

Happy New Millennium to everybody!
Best regards,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Svante Signell writes:
  Greetings,
  
  What do you think of the following proposal:
  
  I order to simplify for package authors/maintainers and to reduce
  duplication, distribute the source file packages in .tar.gz (or .tar.bz2)
  format. This avoids the need to provide both .tar.gz, .src.rpm and
  debian source files.
  
  Included in these tarballs add .spec and .dsc files together with
  the original .tar.gz package and .diff.gz files. Then everybody
  interested can build source/binary files for their own preferred
  distribution using the same source files!!
  
  Also the GNU packages could contain .deb and .spec files, as is
  already the case (.spec-files) for gnome packages.
  
  Advantages
  ==
  ++ Enables convergence towards Linux Standard Base (LSB)
  ++ Simplifies a lot for package maintainers, distribution specific
 files, .spec, .dsc etc could be supplied by the different vendors. 
  ++ Faster feedback to package authors for patches incorporated into
 the main distribution.
  ++ Reduces the risk for patch divergence. (A lot of
 distribution-specific patches)
  + Useful for all .rpm-based systems, rpm -t? is already there.
  + Useful for all .deb-based systems, with minor changes in relevant tools.
  + Useful for .tar.gz-based systems, no changes necessary.
  + ...
  
  Drawbacks
  =
  - No easy way to see if .spec and .dsc files are included in the
  .tar.gz package (except using tar, but that requires a download)
  - Distribution profiling more difficult :-(
  - Package naming has to be agreed upon!!
  - ...
  
  Another issue is to merge the binary file formats .deb and .rpm :-(
  
  I'm currently running Rawhide, Redhat 6.1, Debian 2.2, Suse 6.3 and
  Mandrake 6.1 on different computers and disks, and would really
  appreciate a common format at least for source packages. Most often I
  recompile the sources myself. 
  
  Please feel free to forward this mail to other interested parties not
  reached by the list here. I would like to start the discussion on this
  subject. No flame wars please!
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: modem problem

1999-12-30 Thread Oki DZ


On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Joseph de los Santos wrote:
 I need help...I can ping ip addresses but can't seem to ping the equivalent 
 domain name. any help would be greatly appreciated.

Your /etc/resolv.conf may need to be fixed.

Oki



Re: Upgrading slinkr1 -- r4

1999-12-30 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 30 Dec, Konrad Mierendorff wrote about Upgrading slinkr1 -- r4
 Hi,
 
 I'd really like to upgrade but not with apt-get and my 33.6-Modem.
 Therefore I downloaded all packages mentioned in
 ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/ChangeLog; at the local
 Universitiy. (I simply grepped all lines starting with dists --
 please tell me if this is not enough!)
 Now I have all the packages on my disk but when I put the tree into
 /etc/apt/sources.list and do an apt-get update it complains about
 missing Packages.gz files.
 I tried to put these files together but wasn't very succesfull as there
 doesn't seem to be much documentation on this. (My approach was to put
 the output of dpkg --info executed in a for loop over all packages in
 one file, but that didn't work :-( )
 Please help me if there is an easy to build Packages.gz files or give me
 a pointer to some usable information.
 

Make sure you have the dpkg-dev package installed.

cd to parent directory of all your debs.

dpkg-scanpackages dir of debs /dev/null  dir of debs/Packages

Then add the following to your sources.list,

deb file:path to parent of Debs/ dir of debs/

Example:

All my locally compiled debs are in /usr/local/Debian-Src/Debs

cd /usr/local/Debian-Src
dpkg-scanpackages Debs /dev/null  Debs/Packages
echo deb file:/usr/local/Debian-Src/ Debs/  /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update

This works for me, there may be other ways to do it.
 
Brian Servis
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Re: kernel question

1999-12-30 Thread Pollywog

On 30-Dec-1999 Paul J. Keenan wrote:
 You don't need the kernel-headers package.  All the headers required are in
 the kernel-source package.  You don't need the symlink either, the headers
 are included from the right places automagically.  I've got neither and
 can compile 2.2.13 no problems.
 
 I don't profess to know how it all works, jusk that it works :-)

It does seem to work.

Thanks

--
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Re: new toy story release names

1999-12-30 Thread Joseph Carter
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On Wed, Dec 29, 1999 at 04:23:31PM -0200, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
 And if wonder happens and the releases go too fast for the movie,
 we could go to Pokemon:
   Pikachu
   Bizazan
   Glumanda
   Goldini
   e.t.c.
 ;)

You know we have to kill you now, right?

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http://www.debian.org20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3

james any gnome freaks around?
Knghtbrd not me, I'm just a freak


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Re: Package Phase of Install Fails

1999-12-30 Thread John Hasler
Mark Brown writes:
 For dialup you can probably get everyhthing you need with the ppp and
 pppconfig packages...

They are both in base.  He'll have them.
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404 not found using apt-get

1999-12-30 Thread Michael O'Brien
Hola~

With a sources.list of:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib
non-free
deb http://security.debian.org unstable updates

deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent xfree-update main
deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent y2k-update main

I'm able to run apt-get install for most packages. However, I've got a couple
packages that return with 404 errors:

Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main pcmcia-cs 3.1.6-1
  404 Not Found
Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main pcmcia-source 3.1.6-1
  404 Not Found
Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main libreadlineg2 2.1-15
  404 Not Found
Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main dpkg 1.6.3
  404 Not Found
Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main dpkg-dev 1.6.3
  404 Not Found

If I hop out to
http://debian.midco.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/base/; the
dpkg is the wrong version (1.6.3). The Packages file at
http://debian.midco.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages;
lists 1.6.4 tho.

Anyway, am I looking at the right information (ie, the right dir for the dpkg
pulled by apt-get based on the right Packages file)??? Where do I send support
issues like this???

MO

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Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread Nick Moffitt
Quoting Svante Signell:
 - rpm format to be used for binary packages in LSB.

I beg your pardon?

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Re: debian-user mangles mails

1999-12-30 Thread Brian Servis
No, some mail to news gateway is broken and is bouncing ALL debian-devel
mails back to debian-user.  Notice the Sender and
X-Authentication-Warning headers.  I have notified
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and
root/postmaster/[EMAIL PROTECTED]  But it is still doing it.

I think the solution for now is to make a filter to /dev/null for all
mail from webforce.com.hk.


*- On 30 Dec, Kai Henningsen wrote about debian-user mangles mails
 Here's an example:
 
 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Delivery-date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:42:37 +0100
 Received: from uucp by khms.westfalen.de with local-bsmtp (Exim 3.11 #1)
  id 123LFF-CG-01 (Debian); Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:42:37 +0100
 Received: from murphy.debian.org ([209.41.108.199])
  by muenster.westfalen.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1)
  id 123KeC-0004xK-00
  for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:04:22 +0100
 Received: (qmail 5231 invoked by uid 38); 29 Dec 1999 15:02:51 -
 Resent-Date: 29 Dec 1999 15:02:50 -
 Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ;
 X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Authentication-Warning: niet.webforce.com.hk: news set sender to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
^^^

 Date: 29 Dec 1999 23:00:43 +0800
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marek Habersack)
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: I just...
 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5;
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: su, sudo and resource limits
 Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/76902
 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Precedence: list
 Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Note that Content-Type: line?
 
 Here's the same header from debian-devel:
 
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Delivery-Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:42:37 +0100
 Received: from uucp by khms.westfalen.de with local-bsmtp (Exim 3.11 #1)
  id 123LFE-CG-0A (Debian); Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:42:36 +0100
 Received: from murphy.debian.org ([209.41.108.199])
  by muenster.westfalen.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1)
  id 123Kbi-0004lA-00
  for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:01:47 +0100
 Received: (qmail 323 invoked by uid 38); 29 Dec 1999 14:58:20 -
 Resent-Date: 29 Dec 1999 14:58:20 -
 Resent-CC: recipient list not shown: ;
 X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:57:25 +0100
 From: Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
 Subject: su, sudo and resource limits
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Mime-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5;
  protocol=application/pgp-signature; boundary=zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx
 User-Agent: Mutt/1.0i
 Organization: I just...
 Resent-Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-From: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
 X-Mailing-List: debian-devel@lists.debian.org archive/latest/51714
 X-Loop: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
 Precedence: list
 Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Note the second line. I assume something processing debian-user mails  
 mishandles (that is, drops) continuation lines. Probably the same stuff  
 that rearranges them (something that also should not happen).
 
 MfG Kai
 
 

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Re: Spontaneous reboot with 3c59x kernel module

1999-12-30 Thread Chris Baker
Stuart Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have had this problem on two different computers, at least 3 different
 3com 59x network cards, and both the slink default kernel-image and my
 own compiled 2.2.12 (using kernel-package). In one case I was unable to
 install debian (slink) at all until I changed network cards to an ne2k
 compatible because the reboot happened before the installation finished.
 In the second case I am on cutting-edge potato.

[...]

 Does anyone have any similar stories to report, fixes, workarounds, or
 suggestions as to where to go to get the bug fixed, if it is a bug? (I'd
 say that even if it's user error it's a bug... no bad input should cause
 a spontaneous reboot, just an error message).

I think the best way to debug this is to remove the module in modconf,
and reboot to single user mode.  Then,

# insmod 3c59x.o debug=6

and watch the console for error messages.

In any event, you should probably check out:

http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html

and look at their mailing list archives.

HTH,

cbb


Re: mail ?

1999-12-30 Thread Oki DZ


On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, luis wrote:
 how can i send by mail a file, in only one line ?

mail -s ip_add [EMAIL PROTECTED]  the_file

Oki



Possible hosts.allow problem

1999-12-30 Thread Carl Fink
In order to use IP-Masq I had to edit hosts.allow to accept
connections from my own other PC.  The only uncommented line there now
reads:

ALL: LOCAL 198.168.1.*

Since my laptop is 198.168.0.2, this *shouldn't even work*.  (I
originally typoed the IP address and just noticed it while typing this
message!)  However, since adding that line to hosts.allow, suddenly my
box is open *from any host anywhere*.  I've just confirmed this by
telnetting to my ISP's host and playing:  my ftp, telnet, and SMTP
ports are all open.

They were closed last week.

What the heck?

The only uncommented line in hosts.deny is

ALL: PARANOID

Surely that should be blocking anything not on my local LAN.  What's
up?

I'm running a very current potato.  (I run apt-get upgrade twice a
week.)  Kernel version 2.2.13.

Thanks for any help.
-- 
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(1) /etc/init.d/inn: start-stop-daemon: command not found? (2) actsync difficulties.

1999-12-30 Thread Shaul Karl
1) I just installed inn and I am getting

start-stop-daemon: command not found

whenever I am starting or stopping it.

Did I missed something or is it a bug?

2) Although getlist(1) manages to get about 45000 groups, actsync(8) is 
hanging up and I have to kill it. It seems to put in the active file about 
2500 groups while the stdout shows many warn/err reports. I still have to do 
some reading, try to see what info do the log files gives and similar but if 
someone can guide me then it will be helpful.


DVD restraining order motion DENIED!

1999-12-30 Thread Bruce Perens
The judge has denied the DVD Copy Control Consortium's motion. There will
be no temporary restraining order to block you from distributing the DeCSS
software. Next news will be on January 14, when we have the hearing regarding
a preliminary injunction.

Bruce



Re: Potato Install from Floppies

1999-12-30 Thread Oki DZ


On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Clyde Wilson wrote:

 Has anyone installed the Potato base from floppies and then used
 apt-get or dselect using apt to install other packages?

Yes, and I downloaded the images via a Linux Slackware machine, so I could
execute dd without problem.
Fortunately, I had the PPP connection running (it's a Linux gateway with
NAT enabled), so connection was no problem.
Due to the NAT, after the base got installed (and networking set up),
apt-get worked perfectly.
 
 I have so far found this to be an impossible task!  Guess CD installation
 has spoiled me...

No, it's not impossible; just a little bit tiring, because of the
formatting of about (let's see, 14+3+2) 19 floppies.
BTW, I did that with 10 floppies (so I had cycles of dd-fdformat-dd..).

Oki





Re: mail ?

1999-12-30 Thread Alan Eugene Davis

From the uuencode manpage:

   The following example packages  up  a  source  tree,  com­
   presses it, uuencodes it and mails it to a user on another
   system.  When uudecode is run on the  target  system,  the
   file  ``src_tree.tar.Z'' will be created which may then be
   uncompressed and extracted into the original tree.

  tar  cf  -   src_tree   |   compress   |   uuencode
  src_tree.tar.Z | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Alan Davis


   On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, luis wrote:
how can i send by mail a file, in only one line ?

   mail -s ip_add [EMAIL PROTECTED]  the_file

   Oki






Re: Possible hosts.allow problem

1999-12-30 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 29 Dec, Carl Fink wrote about Possible hosts.allow problem
 In order to use IP-Masq I had to edit hosts.allow to accept
 connections from my own other PC.  The only uncommented line there now
 reads:
 
 ALL: LOCAL 198.168.1.*
 

Shouldn't it be:

ALL: LOCAL, 192.168.1.

or for your network

ALL: LOCAL, 192.168.0.

Notice there is no * in there.  Read the man page for hosts_access(5). 

   ·  A  string  that  ends  with a `.´ character. A host
  address is matched  if  its  first  numeric  fields
  match  the  given string.  For example, the pattern
  `131.155.´ matches the address  of  (almost)  every
  hoston   the   Eindhoven   University   network
  (131.155.x.x).

Although I don't know what effect the * has on the rules.


 Since my laptop is 198.168.0.2, this *shouldn't even work*.  (I
 originally typoed the IP address and just noticed it while typing this
 message!)  However, since adding that line to hosts.allow, suddenly my
 box is open *from any host anywhere*.  I've just confirmed this by
 telnetting to my ISP's host and playing:  my ftp, telnet, and SMTP
 ports are all open.
 

Brian Servis
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Re: [expert] Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread Jean-Michel Dault

I thought about this issue for a long time... And I came up with a
compromise.

- The .tar.gz (or .bz2) source file format is ideal, because it's for any
platform. 
- Source RPMS not only contains the .spec and main source, but often
contains patches, additional source files, documentation, etc.
- Often, you have different rpms, for RedHat, Mandrake, SuSe, Caldera, and
others, with some subtle differences.

What I would suggest is having the .tar.gz source file, plus another file,
with a .build-rh.rpm , .build-mdk.rpm .build.deb extension.

That way, the author only has to maintain his source code, support for
particular distributions are found in a small separate file. You could
even have a .build-rh-contrib.rpm or .build-mdk-official.rpm, so you know
whether this is an official rpm or not. It would be up to the author of
the application to decide to put or not the build files on the ftp site.

Write me your comments on this!

Jean-Michel Dault
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On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Svante Signell wrote:

 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 02:09:31 +0100 (CET)
 From: Svante Signell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: expert@linux-mandrake.com
 To: redhat-list@redhat.com, redhat-devel-list@redhat.com,
 debian-user@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org,
 suse-linux-e@suse.com, expert@linux-mandrake.com, gnome-list@gnome.org,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [expert] Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)
 
 Hi,
 
 Here is a summary of the proposal for a common source file format:
 
 - Good idea!
 - Waste of time, Use configure; make; make install, Most packages are for 
 Unix, not only Linux.
 - Source management problems, no-one is interested in BOTH .rpms and .debs! 
 What about experimental versions?
 - For experimental packages, use dselect to put a hold on the new version.
 - For debian, directory structure is important, not .dsc files.
 - Good suggestion, decision is up to the package author!!
 - How to ensure the .spec files are valid and functional?
 - Reducing incompatibility between the variants of the GNU/Linux OS'es is a 
 useful job.
 - Hard to build good rpm's and deb's. Install to standard directories? What 
 about FHS??
 - GNU people participating in LSB work?
 - Debian is not GNU!?
 - After rms comments about LSB/GNU/Linux/... this thread turned into a flame 
 war!! No more comments of technical nature any more. Sorry I thought it was 
 an idea worth a better faith!! 
 
 Binary formats: 
 - Alien can be used, at least from .rpm to .deb
 - rpm format to be used for binary packages in LSB.
 
 People who replied: 
 Iain Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 George Toft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk
 Adam C Powell IV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cyberclay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Chris Siebenmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Daniel Quinlan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Flaming replies not included!!
 
 PS.
 This mail has been written using GNU Emacs and VM. Wonderful software. What 
 about gemacs, 
 a gnomified version!? 
 DS.
 
 Happy New Millennium to everybody!
 Best regards,
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 Svante Signell writes:
   Greetings,
   
   What do you think of the following proposal:
   
   I order to simplify for package authors/maintainers and to reduce
   duplication, distribute the source file packages in .tar.gz (or .tar.bz2)
   format. This avoids the need to provide both .tar.gz, .src.rpm and
   debian source files.
   
   Included in these tarballs add .spec and .dsc files together with
   the original .tar.gz package and .diff.gz files. Then everybody
   interested can build source/binary files for their own preferred
   distribution using the same source files!!
   
   Also the GNU packages could contain .deb and .spec files, as is
   already the case (.spec-files) for gnome packages.
   
   Advantages
   ==
   ++ Enables convergence towards Linux Standard Base (LSB)
   ++ Simplifies a lot for package maintainers, distribution specific
  files, .spec, .dsc etc could be supplied by the different vendors. 
   ++ Faster feedback to package authors for patches incorporated into
  the main distribution.
   ++ Reduces the risk for patch divergence. (A lot of
  distribution-specific patches)
   + Useful for all .rpm-based systems, rpm -t? is already there.
   + Useful for all .deb-based systems, with minor changes in relevant tools.
   + Useful for .tar.gz-based systems, no changes necessary.
   + ...
   
   Drawbacks
   =
   - No easy way to see if .spec and .dsc files are included in the
   .tar.gz package (except using tar, but that requires a download)
   - Distribution profiling more difficult :-(
   - Package naming has to be agreed upon!!
   - ...
   
   Another issue is to merge the binary file formats .deb and .rpm :-(
   
   I'm currently running Rawhide, Redhat 6.1, Debian 2.2, Suse 6.3 and
   Mandrake 6.1 on different computers and disks, and would really
   appreciate a 

Re: Burning CDs in Linux

1999-12-30 Thread Carl Fink
 I just got the new Yamaha 6x4x16x CD-RW and can't seem to burn a CD.

I would check the CD-Writing HOWTO and find if the drive was
compatible, but you haven't told us the model number.

It always error out with what looks like a buffer problem.

Give the exact error message and people can be much more helpful.
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Re: Burning CDs in Linux

1999-12-30 Thread Arcady Genkin
Rob Rati [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I just got the new Yamaha 6x4x16x CD-RW and can't seem to burn a CD.  It
 always error out with what looks like a buffer problem.  My machine is

What kind of a SCSI controller do you have? I never got my CDR to work
with Qlogic SCSI-2 card, althought it worked perfectly under Win. I
think that the driver for the card was too old, and hasn't been tested
with CDRs. Since I replaced the Qlogic for Tekram 390F, I haven't had
a problem.

Also, make sure you have all necessary options compiled in your
kernel.
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Download once, apt-get install many?

1999-12-30 Thread Robert L. Harris

Ok,
  I'm looking at upgrading to potato.  I'm doing the 
apt-get -d dist-upgrade currently since it looks like it'll take 1day
and 15hrs per box.  Since the -d downloads, can I take the files being 
downloaded for box1, tar them up, copy and untar to box[234] and then
just apt-get install from the single downloads?  I'd hate to spend
a full week downloading the same files multiple times...

Robert


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Re: Possible hosts.allow problem

1999-12-30 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Dec 29, 1999 at 08:47:18PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote:

 ALL: LOCAL 198.168.1.*

You don't want the trailing '*' there - the . does wildcard matching by
itself.  I suspect you will find that 198.168.1.* trys to match a host
by that name.  Also, don't you mean to have your local network be in
192.168?

 Since my laptop is 198.168.0.2, this *shouldn't even work*.  (I
 originally typoed the IP address and just noticed it while typing this
 message!)  However, since adding that line to hosts.allow, suddenly my
 box is open *from any host anywhere*.  I've just confirmed this by
 telnetting to my ISP's host and playing:  my ftp, telnet, and SMTP
 ports are all open.

I don't think it's the fault of that line, though - the default is to
grant access unless it's denied.

 The only uncommented line in hosts.deny is

 ALL: PARANOID

 Surely that should be blocking anything not on my local LAN.  What's
 up?

No.  It only does a consistency check on the connecting host.  From
hosts_access(5):

   PARANOID
  Matches  any  host  whose  name  does not match its
  address.   When  tcpd  is  built  with   -DPARANOID
  (default mode), it drops requests from such clients
  even before looking at the access  control  tables.
  Build without -DPARANOID when you want more control
  over such requests.

To deny everything from everywhere, say ALL: ALL.

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Re: Download once, apt-get install many?

1999-12-30 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Dec 29, 1999 at 08:06:39PM -0700, Robert L. Harris wrote:

 and 15hrs per box.  Since the -d downloads, can I take the files being 
 downloaded for box1, tar them up, copy and untar to box[234] and then
 just apt-get install from the single downloads?  I'd hate to spend

Yes - you want to copy the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives about.

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Re: Can't remove pgaccess

1999-12-30 Thread Matt Miller
On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 08:03:56AM +1100, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 29, 1999 at 08:26:22AM -0700, Matt Miller wrote:
  The file /var/lib/dpkg/info/pgaccess.prerm has only a single blank line.
  
  Should I just remove this file?
 certainly

All better.  Thanks.


Re: Timeline for potato

1999-12-30 Thread Joel Klecker
At 00:02 +0100 1999-12-30, Martin Schulze wrote:
Rainer Dorsch wrote:
 The timeline is great! But I think it should be continued. As experience
 shows, shortly after releasing potato (or even shortly after freezing
potato),
 kernel 2.4 and XFree 4.0 will appear.

Hopefully they appear *after* the release and not between freeze
and release again.

Just because 2.4 comes out doesn't mean it's stable enough to put in a
dist, 2.2.0 wasn't particularly stable, and there wasn't a really solid
kernel until 2.2.5.
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DPMS problem (maybe) solved

1999-12-30 Thread John Dalbec
I got libc6 2.1.2-11 in the latest apt-get upgrade.
This appears to have fixed the xpuzzles/DPMS problem I mentioned.
Thanks,
John


Re: 404 not found using apt-get

1999-12-30 Thread Shaul Karl
 Hola~
 
 With a sources.list of:
 
 deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
 deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib
 non-free
 deb http://security.debian.org unstable updates
 
 deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent xfree-update main
 deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent y2k-update main
 
 I'm able to run apt-get install for most packages. However, I've got a couple
 packages that return with 404 errors:
 
 Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main pcmcia-cs 3.1.6-1
   404 Not Found
 Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main pcmcia-source 3.1.6-1
   404 Not Found
 Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main libreadlineg2 2.1-15
   404 Not Found
 Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main dpkg 1.6.3
   404 Not Found
 Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main dpkg-dev 1.6.3
   404 Not Found
 
 If I hop out to
 http://debian.midco.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/base/; the
 dpkg is the wrong version (1.6.3). The Packages file at
 http://debian.midco.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages;
 lists 1.6.4 tho.
 
 Anyway, am I looking at the right information (ie, the right dir for the dpkg
 pulled by apt-get based on the right Packages file)??? Where do I send support
 issues like this???
 

1) I believe you are. You might want to replace
 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main
with
http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main
2) You can ask for support right here (debian-user@lists.debian.org)




A small problem with IP Masq'ing

1999-12-30 Thread David Grill Watson
I have a small home network (4 computers, will be 5 when I get a dedicated
machine for IP Masq'ing), with mainly Linux clients and a few on-off Windoze
boxes (i.e. for games :).  It all works fairly well for getting email,
ICQ, browsing the web, and such... but playing internet games (or at
least Jedi Knight, which is what my brother has been complaining about :)
doesn't seem to work except on the host.

The problem seems to be that this game needs to have a whole ton of ports
(6667, plus 28800-29000) redirected so they get thru the proxy.  I've been
looking around for some program to do this, and haven't had much success... the
ones which look promising don't compile, and stuff like that.  Redir works with
one port, but it would be a real pain (and probably a load on the server - i.e.
my computer :) to be running it with that many ports.

So, any suggestions as to what I should do?  Has anyone done something similar?

Thanks in advance...

-David G. Watson


Debian Linux

1999-12-30 Thread Clive Gates
I have a 10 gig hard drive partitioned into 2 gig partitions
(win 95). is it possible to install linux onto the last (unformated)
partition and boot from a floppy. I want to test drive the linux first

before I do any major alterations to the H.D.

Clive Gates

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Re: Allowing weak passwords

1999-12-30 Thread Ethan Benson

On 29/12/99 Daniel Barclay wrote:


So is there no way to disable the check for weak passwords
but leave everything else working the same way?


with PAM there is, in fact they are disabled by default, one the 
minimum length defined in /etc/login.defs is used. this is controlled 
by adding or removing the pam_cracklib.so modules from the passwd and 
login pam configuration files.


since AFAIK slink does not use PAM there is no way to disable these 
checks without recompiling all the password utilities.  (other then 
changing the passwd with the root account which is immune to such 
things.)



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Re: Download once, apt-get install many?

1999-12-30 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 03:18:27AM +, Mark Brown wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 29, 1999 at 08:06:39PM -0700, Robert L. Harris wrote:
 
  and 15hrs per box.  Since the -d downloads, can I take the files being 
  downloaded for box1, tar them up, copy and untar to box[234] and then
  just apt-get install from the single downloads?  I'd hate to spend
 
 Yes - you want to copy the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives about.


Also the contents of /var/state/apt/lists (the Packages files).

For installing those copied from another box, the -d wouldn't be
used, of course.

Bob

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Re: kernel question

1999-12-30 Thread Oki DZ


On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Paul J. Keenan wrote:
 You don't need the kernel-headers package.  All the headers required are in

There is a kernel-headers package...(?)
I'd like to download it.

 the kernel-source package.  You don't need the symlink either, the headers
 are included from the right places automagically.  I've got neither and
 can compile 2.2.13 no problems.

Once I had a problem compiling a module for a NIC; kernel-source 2.2.13
package still has /usr/src/linunx/include/version.h for kernel 2.2.12.
After the module got compiled, it wouldn't get loaded.

Oki


Re: syslog and hostname ?

1999-12-30 Thread Oki DZ


On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, aphro wrote:
 ever since i made the changes syslog thinkks the hostname is changed ..
 
 ideas ??

Restarting syslogd ?

Oki



Re: new toy story release names

1999-12-30 Thread Oki DZ


On 30 Dec 1999, Franklin Belew wrote:
 If you use pokemon, I will abandon debian, and find something else
 There is no way that debian should use names from a show that is
 nothing but commercialism.
 If this was supposed to be a joke, sorry I don't find it funny

I heard that internally, Windows 2000 was codenamed Zurg.
(So Debian couldn't beat W2K, because he's Buzz's father; this is a bit
unfortunate.)

Oki



Re: Potato Install from Floppies

1999-12-30 Thread Oki DZ


On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Clyde Wilson wrote:
 I have so far found this to be an impossible task!  Guess CD installation
 has spoiled me...

I haven't tried this, but...
if you mount the CD on a web server and you change the contents of 
/etc/apt/sources.list to point to the web server, I think you could save
lots of Internet connection time.

But that's a 100% theory...

Oki


Re: Debian Linux

1999-12-30 Thread Bob Nielsen
Yes.

On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 04:17:22AM +, Clive Gates wrote:
 I have a 10 gig hard drive partitioned into 2 gig partitions
 (win 95). is it possible to install linux onto the last (unformated)
 partition and boot from a floppy. I want to test drive the linux first
 
 before I do any major alterations to the H.D.

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Re: Debian Linux

1999-12-30 Thread Arcady Genkin
Clive Gates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a 10 gig hard drive partitioned into 2 gig partitions
 (win 95). is it possible to install linux onto the last (unformated)
 partition and boot from a floppy. I want to test drive the linux first
 before I do any major alterations to the H.D.

Yes. Just run the installer from a floppy, and when you reach stage of
fdisk-ing, delete the last partition, and create a linux swap
partition and one or more ext2fs partitions in the space that you will
free by deleting the last part'n. Then install Debian into them.

Read the installation instructions for more info.
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DPMS problem

1999-12-30 Thread John Dalbec
OK, the problem didn't go away.
What happens is this:
When I first log in to X, starting xhexagons and clicking on it blanks the
screen.  If I start Netscape (R)(TM)(C) first (apologies to RMS) 
(my homepage is www.debian.org) and then start xhexagons while Netscape is
running, xhexagons complains:
Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for Gray
clicking on it doesn't blank the screen.  This is effective
until I log out of X.  I can close Netscape, close and restart xhexagons,
and the problem doesn't recur.  I just tried Option xaa_no_color_exp
and that didn't help.  Any ideas?
TIA,
John Dalbec


Re: Burning CDs in Linux

1999-12-30 Thread Rob Rati
I checked the howto and this drive is supported (actually, the newest howto on 
the
web has this drive listed as supported by cdrecord.  It's a Yamaha CRW6416S.  
I'm
running potato with the 2.2.13 kernel and Adaptec 2940UW SCSI controller.  The 
errors
I get from xcdroast and cdrecord are like this:

Cdrecord release 1.6.1 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 J\xf6rg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '0,00,00'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
atapi: 0
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : SYNC
Vendor_info: 'YAMAHA  '
Identifikation : 'CRW6416S'
Revision   : '1.0c'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO
Track 01: data  650 MB
Total size: 746 MB (73:59.78) = 332984 sectors
Lout start: 747 MB (74:01/59) = 332984 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
  Indicated writing power: 5
  Is not unrestricted
  Is not erasable
  Disk sub type: 6
  ATIP start of lead in:  -11640 (97:26/60)
  ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
Disk type: Cyanine, AZO or similar
Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation
Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 26865
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 6 in dummy mode for single session.
Waiting for reader process to fill input-buffer ... input-buffer ready.
Starting new track at sector: 0
/usr/lib/xcdroast-0.96e/bin/cdrecord-1.6.1: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi
sendcmd: retryable error
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
CDB:  2A 00 00 01 B1 D0 00 00 10 00
Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 21 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x21 Qual 0x00 (logical block address out of range) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
cmd finished after 44.493s timeout 40s

write track data: error after 227442688 bytes
Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Writing  time:  281.434s
/usr/lib/xcdroast-0.96e/bin/cdrecord-1.6.1: fifo had 7069 puts and 6942 gets.
/usr/lib/xcdroast-0.96e/bin/cdrecord-1.6.1: fifo waWARNING: Some drives don't 
like
fixation in dummy mode.

WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode.
Fixating time:   42.015s

This looks like a buffer under run, but I could be wrong.  I'm not exactly sure 
how
to diagnose burner problems.  I have burned CDs before though.  The fact that 
this
consistently bombs out in different places in the write has me kinda confused.

Rob

Carl Fink wrote:

  I just got the new Yamaha 6x4x16x CD-RW and can't seem to burn a CD.

 I would check the CD-Writing HOWTO and find if the drive was
 compatible, but you haven't told us the model number.

 It always error out with what looks like a buffer problem.

 Give the exact error message and people can be much more helpful.
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Re: debian-user mangles mails

1999-12-30 Thread Fish Smith
I think the solution for now is to make a filter to
/dev/null for all
mail from webforce.com.hk.

Some of us don't have that luxury.  Pity me, for I am
using windows to access this list, and have no
lifeline to debian until I save enough for a new pc.

Although that filtration thing could work under
windows, it's just more complicated and lacks the
dramatic soundingness of /dev/null.  Plus I read the
digest.  But pity me anyways, I'm still forced against
my will to use a poorly written, capitalistic OS.

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Access problem solved

1999-12-30 Thread Carl Fink
I solved the problem shortly after posting, and then twice sent
private rather than list-directed explanations by accident.

As a listmember pointed out, the problem was in my hosts.deny file,
not hosts.allow.  Once I read the man page carefully I changed the
line to ALL: ALL and telnet/ftp/smtp were locked.

Oddly, this *didn't* lock http (port 80), though.  A quick check of
inetd.conf indicated that inetd doesn't handle http connections.  So
I edited boa.conf to only listen for connections from 127.0.0.1. 
(I only have a web server at all to handle dwww.)  Now all ports are
closed.

Interestingly, the scanner at www.gsr.com still shows my ftp, smtp,
and telnet ports as open.  My tests indicate that one can connect
to the port, but not actually do anything before my host closes the
connection again.  

Someone suggested using IPCHAINS.  The thing is, my only goal is to
lock *everyone* outside my local LAN out, while trusting everyone
within 198.162.  If I need more complex rules, I will investigate
IPCHAINS.

Thanks to those who replied.
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Re: debian-user mangles mails

1999-12-30 Thread Fish Smith
BS  No, some mail to news gateway is broken and
is bouncing ALL
BS debian-devel mails back to debian-user. 
Notice the Sender and
BS X-Authentication-Warning headers.

I was beginning to wonder how come there were so many
packaging/policy
related posts coming through to debian-user. Thought
I'd missed a
change
(or announcement) somewhere relating to the
purpose/mandate of
debian-user.

Yeah, I'd noticed quite a few to unsubscribe, send
mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the
end of the messages.  Which didn't make sense, because
I read the digest, and these were coming at the end of
the individual messages, and it's the wrong list.  I
figured maybe it was somebody's goofy sigfile, but I
get it now.

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CHAP problem

1999-12-30 Thread Yunsheng Zheng




Hi guys,

I am new to Debian and I'm trying to set up a PPP 
connection to my ISP, which is MSN. I used pon to dial and I have problem. It 
seems CHAP was not authenticated by the server. Thanks in advance for any hints 
and suggestions. 

The following is my chap-secrets:
# Secrets for authentication using CHAP# 
clientserversecretIP addresses# The next line 
was added by pppconfig for provider.yunsheng * mypasswdhere
The following is my ppp.log:
Dec 24 17:00:06 BlackJade pppd[227]: pppd 2.3.5 started by 
root, uid 0Dec 24 17:00:07 BlackJade chat[228]: abort on (BUSY)Dec 24 
17:00:07 BlackJade chat[228]: abort on (NO CARRIER)Dec 24 17:00:07 BlackJade 
chat[228]: abort on (VOICE)Dec 24 17:00:07 BlackJade chat[228]: abort on (NO 
DIALTONE)Dec 24 17:00:07 BlackJade chat[228]: abort on (NO ANSWER)Dec 24 
17:00:07 BlackJade chat[228]: send (ATZ^M)Dec 24 17:00:07 BlackJade 
chat[228]: expect (OK)Dec 24 17:00:07 BlackJade chat[228]: ATZ^M^MDec 24 
17:00:07 BlackJade chat[228]: OKDec 24 17:00:07 BlackJade chat[228]: 
-- got it Dec 24 17:00:07 BlackJade chat[228]: send (ATDT9238359^M)Dec 
24 17:00:07 BlackJade chat[228]: expect (CONNECT)Dec 24 17:00:07 BlackJade 
chat[228]: ^MDec 24 17:00:30 BlackJade chat[228]: ATDT9238359^M^MDec 24 
17:00:30 BlackJade chat[228]: CONNECTDec 24 17:00:30 BlackJade 
chat[228]: -- got it Dec 24 17:00:30 BlackJade chat[228]: send 
(\d)Dec 24 17:00:31 BlackJade pppd[227]: Serial connection 
established.Dec 24 17:00:32 BlackJade pppd[227]: Using interface ppp0Dec 
24 17:00:32 BlackJade pppd[227]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS2Dec 24 
17:00:32 BlackJade pppd[227]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 
magic 0x812233e1 pcomp accomp]Dec 24 17:00:32 
BlackJade pppd[227]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  00 04 00 00 mru 
1524 asyncmap 0xa auth chap 05 pcomp 
accomp  11 04 05 f4  13 09 03 00 c0 7b 6c ff b0]Dec 
24 17:00:32 BlackJade pppd[227]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1  00 04 00 00 
 11 04 05 f4  13 09 03 00 c0 7b 6c ff b0]Dec 24 17:00:32 
BlackJade pppd[227]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 
0x812233e1 pcomp accomp]Dec 24 17:00:32 BlackJade 
pppd[227]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa 
auth chap 05 pcomp accomp]Dec 24 17:00:32 BlackJade 
pppd[227]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa 
auth chap 05 pcomp accomp]Dec 24 17:00:32 BlackJade 
pppd[227]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x812233e1]Dec 24 17:00:32 
BlackJade pppd[227]: rcvd [CHAP Challenge id=0x1 
c6c69aa3913632d82392e3d944a04a18, name = "tnt1.ontario"]Dec 24 
17:00:32 BlackJade pppd[227]: sent [CHAP Response id=0x1 
8af8b385bd53459e8267f1b9514128eb, name = "yunsheng"]Dec 24 17:00:32 
BlackJade pppd[227]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0]Dec 24 17:00:33 
BlackJade pppd[227]: rcvd [CHAP Failure id=0x1 "\000"]Dec 24 17:00:33 
BlackJade pppd[227]: Remote message: Dec 24 17:00:33 BlackJade pppd[227]: 
CHAP authentication failedDec 24 17:00:34 BlackJade pppd[227]: rcvd [LCP 
TermReq id=0x3]Dec 24 17:00:34 BlackJade pppd[227]: LCP terminated by 
peerDec 24 17:00:34 BlackJade pppd[227]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x3]Dec 24 
17:00:34 BlackJade pppd[227]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4 auth chap 
05]Dec 24 17:00:37 BlackJade pppd[227]: Connection terminated.Dec 24 
17:00:37 BlackJade pppd[227]: Hangup (SIGHUP)Dec 24 17:00:37 BlackJade 
pppd[227]: Exit.


Tim



Can't Install On New System, Boot Hangs

1999-12-30 Thread JP Goodyear
Hi All,
I'm having a terrible time trying to figure out why I can't boot my new
system to install Debian 2.1.
I have a:
FIC-503A Motherboard Award Bios
AMD K6-3 400 CPU
PCI ET6000 based video card
3com 3c905b-tx PCI ethernet card
PCI Yamaha YMF724 Sound Card

With all these components installed I can Install and run WinNT
Workstation fine using all this equipment. yet Debian or RedHat wont
boot at all.

If I take out the Ethernet card and the Sound Card I can get RedHat 6.0
to install. But I don't want to use RedHat, and when I try to add the
cards it won't boot.

When I try to boot Debian 2.1 either by floppy or CD, with only the
video card as the only PCI device even, it halts after displaying all
the boot messages up to:
md driver 0.36.3 max_md_dev=4, max_real=8

then it hangs. please help, I really need to run Debian.

thanks!
JP Goodyear


Re: nfs

1999-12-30 Thread hypnos
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Brian Minton wrote:

 do you know if there is a publicly available nfs or smb server that is a
 debian mirror?

Are you asking for an nfs or smb server software
package?  Or are you trying to find a server that
export their filesystems that the mirror is on
via nfs/smb?  I don't think you'll find any mirrors
like that.

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ITP: Postmark - the NetApp benchmark program

1999-12-30 Thread Russell Coker
I intend to package Postmark and have it done well before Jan 2.

Postmark is a file system benchmark developed by NetApp for showing how good
their Filers are.  It's got some good options and it's a reasonably
comprehensive test of mail server performance.

The upstream source is a single .c file.  I will send in an archive with
makefile, brief man page, etc.  A Debian diff doesn't really make sense to me
as I don't plan to make any changes to the .c file...  Is it necessary to
have a diff file?

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Re: nfs

1999-12-30 Thread Brian Minton
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, hypnos wrote:

 On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Brian Minton wrote:
 
  do you know if there is a publicly available nfs or smb server that is a
  debian mirror?
 
 Are you asking for an nfs or smb server software
 package?  Or are you trying to find a server that
 export their filesystems that the mirror is on
 via nfs/smb?  I don't think you'll find any mirrors
 like that.

ok, thanks.   That is actually what I was looking for, but I may not need it
now :-)

 
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What is it with very long bug lists?

1999-12-30 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
Some packages (for example gnupg and lintian) have bug lists
that go back many many months and in some cases years.

Are these bugs still open or did someone just forget to close them?

If they are closed, can someone please close them so it becomes
clearer what is and isn't done?

PS. Is there a mailing list discussing lintian?

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Re: [expert] Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Wed, Dec 29, 1999 at 09:46:10PM -0500, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
What I would suggest is having the .tar.gz source file, plus another file,
with a .build-rh.rpm , .build-mdk.rpm .build.deb extension.

That way, the author only has to maintain his source code, support for
particular distributions are found in a small separate file. You could
even have a .build-rh-contrib.rpm or .build-mdk-official.rpm, so you know
whether this is an official rpm or not. It would be up to the author of
the application to decide to put or not the build files on the ftp site.

How is that different from the way Debian packaging works now?

.build.deb == .diff.gz

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dselect+apt -- how to clear cache?

1999-12-30 Thread Arcady Genkin
I've made some bad move while using dselect one day, and now I have 40
packages triggered for removal. 8-( Oh horror!

I figure that this is saved in some file, for any time I try to
install a package with dselect now, it wants to remove the 40 packages
along with installing the new ones. This happens when I choose
install.

,[ This is what I see: ]
| The following packages will be REMOVED:
|   netscape-base-4 libmd5-perl libcurses-perl debhelper nosql
|   libcompress-zlib-perl libtime-hires-perl libdelimmatch-perl perl
|   debmake libhtml-parser-perl sysutils libterm-readkey-perl
|   procmail-lib dupload navigator-smotif-45 netscape-base-45
|   perl-5.004-doc xkeycaps dftp cvs-buildpackage perl-suid
|   libio-stringy-perl devscripts pkg-order signify liblockdev0-perl
|   dpkg-dev quake2 netscape-java-45 perlmenu navigator-base-45 dpkg-ftp
|   libnet-perl libmime-base64-perl dpkg-repack xaw-wrappers debsums
|   alias alien
| 14 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 40 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
| 1 packages not fully installed or removed.
| Need to get 4745kB/11.3MB of archives. After unpacking 30.3MB will be freed.
`

Is there any way I could tell dselect that thank you, I want my system
left just the way it is right now. I want to clear that list of
packages lined up for removal.

Thanks for any input!
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reccomendations for a multi-interface NIC?

1999-12-30 Thread ferret

I'm hoping someone can reccomend a good and hopefully fairly inexpensive
2-interface 10/100 ethernet NIC that plays nice with Linux. I've taken a
look at one of Intel's boards (known to work with recent Tulip drivers but
running about $300 at necx.com). I'm also looking at D-link-s fourport
card, and trying to find out what else is out there? The card is destined
for a medium-use server machine that needs a second interface but doesn't
have a free PCI slot.

Alternately, I could press my Sparc into use if I could find an sbus 10 or
10/100 NIC that will play nice.

-- Ferret no baka



Re: A small problem with IP Masq'ing

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
are you actually using a proxy? i.e. squid or something similar? ipmasq
wasn't really designed with games(other then quake) in mind..you may want
to try a real proxy(i use both, using the proxy for web caching
purposes) many games support accessing the net through a proxy
server..those that dont..well you could try to setup firewall rules to
forward the packets..but i doubt that would work too well.

if your brother is a big online gamer i suggest you get him his own ip. or
start pressuring game companies to standardize on ports for games so
programmers and big companies alike can start developing software to take
those into account.

nate

On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, David Grill Watson wrote:

dgwats I have a small home network (4 computers, will be 5 when I get a 
dedicated
dgwats machine for IP Masq'ing), with mainly Linux clients and a few on-off 
Windoze
dgwats boxes (i.e. for games :).  It all works fairly well for getting email,
dgwats ICQ, browsing the web, and such... but playing internet games (or at
dgwats least Jedi Knight, which is what my brother has been complaining about 
:)
dgwats doesn't seem to work except on the host.
dgwats 
dgwats The problem seems to be that this game needs to have a whole ton of 
ports
dgwats (6667, plus 28800-29000) redirected so they get thru the proxy.  I've 
been
dgwats looking around for some program to do this, and haven't had much 
success... the
dgwats ones which look promising don't compile, and stuff like that.  Redir 
works with
dgwats one port, but it would be a real pain (and probably a load on the 
server - i.e.
dgwats my computer :) to be running it with that many ports.
dgwats 
dgwats So, any suggestions as to what I should do?  Has anyone done something 
similar?
dgwats 
dgwats Thanks in advance...
dgwats 
dgwats -David G. Watson
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Re: Debian Linux

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
sure, that would work fine

nate

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Clive Gates wrote:

clive_ I have a 10 gig hard drive partitioned into 2 gig partitions
clive_ (win 95). is it possible to install linux onto the last (unformated)
clive_ partition and boot from a floppy. I want to test drive the linux first
clive_ 
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Re: Burning CDs in Linux

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
did you check on the cdrecord homepage? it has a listing of compadible
drives..i have a Matshita CW-7502B and it works perfectly in linux..i have
never used it in any other OS.  4X burns while compiling a kernel and
bzipping files..no problem..never ever had a buffer underrun.

see

http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdwriters-1.8.html

if you have kernel 2.2 you can see the model# by cat /proc/scsi/scsi in
kernel2.0 its probably cat /proc/scsi

note that XCDRoast(what i use too) comes with its own version of
cdrecord(an older one) so you may want to try to replace it with the
latest version IF the drive is supported..if not ask the cdrecord author
maybe it will be supported soon.

i also have burned many many cds using CDRWin under wine in linux as well,
always worked perfectly.

nate

On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Rob Rati wrote:

ratirh I just got the new Yamaha 6x4x16x CD-RW and can't seem to burn a CD.  It
ratirh always error out with what looks like a buffer problem.  My machine is
ratirh all SCSI, and it doesn't seem to matter whether I do a CD to CD burn or
ratirh make an image and burn that from the HD.  It always errors out.  I am
ratirh able to burn CDs in windows at 4x (should be able at 6x, but it errors
ratirh out with buffer under-run issues), and I hate the idea that windows can
ratirh do something my linux box can't.  I don't want to have to boot to it
ratirh every time I want to burn a CD.  So, does anyone know of anything to try
ratirh to get this burner to work?  Has anyone gotten one working?  I've tried
ratirh using xcdroast and mkisofs and cdrecord by themselves with the same
ratirh results, unfortunately.  Is it possible that there isn't a compatible
ratirh driver in cdrecord for this burner yet?  Any help would be very
ratirh appreciated.
ratirh 
ratirh Rob
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Re: Burning CDs in Linux

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
try upgrading to cdrecord 1.8 1.6 is Very old.

nate

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Rob Rati wrote:

ratirh I checked the howto and this drive is supported (actually, the newest 
howto on the
ratirh web has this drive listed as supported by cdrecord.  It's a Yamaha 
CRW6416S.  I'm
ratirh running potato with the 2.2.13 kernel and Adaptec 2940UW SCSI 
controller.  The errors
ratirh I get from xcdroast and cdrecord are like this:
ratirh 
ratirh Cdrecord release 1.6.1 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 J\xf6rg Schilling
ratirh TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
ratirh scsidev: '0,00,00'
ratirh scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
ratirh atapi: 0
ratirh Device type: Removable CD-ROM
ratirh Version: 2
ratirh Response Format: 2
ratirh Capabilities   : SYNC
ratirh Vendor_info: 'YAMAHA  '
ratirh Identifikation : 'CRW6416S'
ratirh Revision   : '1.0c'
ratirh Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
ratirh Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
ratirh Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO
ratirh Track 01: data  650 MB
ratirh Total size: 746 MB (73:59.78) = 332984 sectors
ratirh Lout start: 747 MB (74:01/59) = 332984 sectors
ratirh Current Secsize: 2048
ratirh ATIP info from disk:
ratirh   Indicated writing power: 5
ratirh   Is not unrestricted
ratirh   Is not erasable
ratirh   Disk sub type: 6
ratirh   ATIP start of lead in:  -11640 (97:26/60)
ratirh   ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
ratirh Disk type: Cyanine, AZO or similar
ratirh Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation
ratirh Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 26865
ratirh Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 6 in dummy mode for single session.
ratirh Waiting for reader process to fill input-buffer ... input-buffer ready.
ratirh Starting new track at sector: 0
ratirh /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.96e/bin/cdrecord-1.6.1: Input/output error. 
write_g1: scsi
ratirh sendcmd: retryable error
ratirh status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
ratirh CDB:  2A 00 00 01 B1 D0 00 00 10 00
ratirh Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 21 00 00 00
ratirh Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
ratirh Sense Code: 0x21 Qual 0x00 (logical block address out of range) Fru 0x0
ratirh Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
ratirh cmd finished after 44.493s timeout 40s
ratirh 
ratirh write track data: error after 227442688 bytes
ratirh Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
ratirh Writing  time:  281.434s
ratirh /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.96e/bin/cdrecord-1.6.1: fifo had 7069 puts and 6942 
gets.
ratirh /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.96e/bin/cdrecord-1.6.1: fifo waWARNING: Some drives 
don't like
ratirh fixation in dummy mode.
ratirh 
ratirh WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode.
ratirh Fixating time:   42.015s
ratirh 
ratirh This looks like a buffer under run, but I could be wrong.  I'm not 
exactly sure how
ratirh to diagnose burner problems.  I have burned CDs before though.  The 
fact that this
ratirh consistently bombs out in different places in the write has me kinda 
confused.
ratirh 
ratirh Rob
ratirh 
ratirh Carl Fink wrote:
ratirh 
ratirh   I just got the new Yamaha 6x4x16x CD-RW and can't seem to burn a CD.
ratirh 
ratirh  I would check the CD-Writing HOWTO and find if the drive was
ratirh  compatible, but you haven't told us the model number.
ratirh 
ratirh  It always error out with what looks like a buffer problem.
ratirh 
ratirh  Give the exact error message and people can be much more helpful.
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Re: (fqdn) hostname resolution when using DHCP

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote:

ssahme how this work ? Will this approach require the network sysadmins to
ssahme change their (internal) DNS configuration ? Our network admins know of
ssahme only one OS: Windoze, and generally don't know d*** about
ssahme Unix/Linux/*BSD, so I am a little hesitant to try anything that requires
ssahme their intervention.

yes they would have to point the machine(s) to that DNS, for optimal
performance they should be going to a machine on the internal network
anyways(and best security).

ssahme but this would require:
ssahme   a) updating the LM hosts file on a lot of windoze boxes
ssahme   b) changing the file everytime my linux box's IP address changes
ssahme  because of DHCP

you could give the linux box a static ip ..if its a permanent station i
believe any permanent station should have a static ip. you may be able to
setup samba on the linux boxes and then use WINS to locate them..didnt
think of that till just now.

ssahme I am not familiar with DNS at all but is there a way to bind/associate a
ssahme hostname+domainname to an ethernet address ? I guess I might have to try
ssahme option (1).

try option #3 if you want too :)

nate

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Re: what does E:Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) mean?

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Joseph de los Santos wrote:

jh0u 
jh0uE:Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
jh0u 
jh0u   what does this mean?

it means exactly that, line 1 in sources.list is not correct..it would of
been helpful if you had included the sources.list file as part of your
mail.

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Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
On 30 Dec 1999, Nick Moffitt wrote:

nick Quoting Svante Signell:
nick  - rpm format to be used for binary packages in LSB.
nick 
nick   I beg your pardon?

RPM is one of the biggest pieces of crap ive seen..i spent 20 minutes
working on a redhat5.1 machine(from telnet) and it about drove me MAD, i
never appreciated how well dpkg/apt and even the distribution
(debian) being so organized into sections until i saw how redhat did it,
ALL IN ONE DIRECTORY.

rpm was a nice step from .tgz packages but it is the last thing that
should be used for distributions in the future. my opinion at least.

that machine i worked 20 minutes on i told the guy to wipe it out and
install slink, i had his firewall, proxy, ipmasq, DNS, and X configured as
well as his machine secured in about 2 hours(that includes downloading
some missing packages off the net over 56k) redhat would of taken me
days..argh who could use a system like that..

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[Solved] Re: syslog and hostname ?

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Paul J. Keenan wrote:

paul So I would first check that /etc/hostname contains the single word
paul aphro.

i just checked it again, it does, that file never changed.

paul It seems that the syslogd gets its info from calling uname(2), which
paul at kernel level invokes sys_gethostname in /usr/src/linux/kernel/sys.c

uname -n gives just 'aphro'

i just removed the 'aphro' from my /etc/hosts's line that was

127.0.0.1   localhost aphro

and restarted syslogd and it was back to 'normal' if i add aphro back and
restart again it goes back to localhost ..odd! (just tried this just now)

thanks!

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Re: Possible hosts.allow problem

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Carl Fink wrote:

carlf In order to use IP-Masq I had to edit hosts.allow to accept
carlf connections from my own other PC.  The only uncommented line there now
carlf reads:
carlf 
carlf ALL: LOCAL 198.168.1.*

ipmasq has nothing to do with tcp_wrappers, it is a firewalling and packet
forwarding/translation deal.  hosts.allow is pretty much used for things
listed in /etc/inetd.conf.


carlf ALL: PARANOID
carlf 
carlf Surely that should be blocking anything not on my local LAN.  What's
carlf up?

that line blocks ALL incoming connections(or at least tries) to daemons in
/etc/inetd.conf from all hosts, no matter where they are. if what you are
trying to do is ipmasq that does not connect to any services on the linux
box only passes through the kernel's firewall rules.

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Re: kernel question

1999-12-30 Thread Paul J. Keenan
On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 11:31:53AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
 There is a kernel-headers package...(?)
 I'd like to download it.

I guess it's for people who need to compile modules but don't
want to download the full source.  It's in main / devel, but I
haven't downloaded it.

 Once I had a problem compiling a module for a NIC; kernel-source 2.2.13
 package still has /usr/src/linunx/include/version.h for kernel 2.2.12.
 After the module got compiled, it wouldn't get loaded.
 
 Oki

I got exactly the same problem doing exactly the same thing :)

I just went ahead and changed the offending file, but I guess it should
be reported as a bug.  Perhaps it already has.  I think there's also a
chance the kernel-headers package would have been generated at the same
time as the kernel-source, and so perhaps has the same bug.

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Re: Access problem solved

1999-12-30 Thread hypnos
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Carl Fink wrote:

 As a listmember pointed out, the problem was in my hosts.deny file,
 not hosts.allow.  Once I read the man page carefully I changed the
 line to ALL: ALL and telnet/ftp/smtp were locked.

/etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny are used by tcpd and only
affects services that are run thru inetd.  inetd is a so-called
super server in that it monitors the ports for various services,
and when incoming connections occur, it passes control on to the
actual server daemon.  however, if you have tcpd installed (which
you do), inetd is tricked (sort of) into passing control on to
tcpd.  tcpd then consults hosts.allow and hosts.deny such as:

[from man 5 hosts_access]:

 - Access will be granted when a (daemon,client)  pair
   matches an entry in the /etc/hosts.allow file.

 - Otherwise,  access  will  be  denied  when  a (dae-
   mon,client)  pair   matches   an   entry   in   the
   /etc/hosts.deny file.

 - Otherwise, access will be granted.

 Oddly, this *didn't* lock http (port 80), though.  A quick check of
 inetd.conf indicated that inetd doesn't handle http connections.  So
 I edited boa.conf to only listen for connections from 127.0.0.1. 
 (I only have a web server at all to handle dwww.)  Now all ports are
 closed.

httpd is (usually, and in your case) run as a stand-alone server,
and not through inetd, as most web servers handle lots of requests
and it would waste system resources to run it through inetd.  and
httpd itself listens on the port, and control never gets passed on
to tcpd, so it can't refuse the connection.

 Interestingly, the scanner at www.gsr.com still shows my ftp, smtp,
 and telnet ports as open.  My tests indicate that one can connect
 to the port, but not actually do anything before my host closes the
 connection again.  

as stated above, the connection *DOES* get established.  then tcpd
gets control and checks it's access rules.  if it finds that the
client should not be allowed to connect, it immediately drops the
connection, so you get something like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:tty3:~]$ telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to lemnos.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.

also, your mail server, running on port 25, probably also runs
stand-alone.  it will not be affected by hosts.allow or hosts.deny
either, so you may want to double check that it's not open.

 Someone suggested using IPCHAINS.  The thing is, my only goal is to
 lock *everyone* outside my local LAN out, while trusting everyone
 within 198.162.  If I need more complex rules, I will investigate
 IPCHAINS.

ipchains is very useful.  it takes a little bit to get used to its
syntax, and remember the various options, but once you do it's very
powerful.

in my /etc/ppp/ip-up file (executed when a ppp link is established),
a total of 5 lines which create various firewall rules.  there's one
line for each of: mail server, dns server, web server, sql server,
and x windows server.  they block incoming connections on those ports
from any packets coming in over the ppp0 interface, so anything on
the lan isn't affected.  i also have access rules in hosts.allow and
hosts.deny, but to get that far, they have to make it through the
firewall. :)

hope this little (?) explanation helps you to understand a bit :)

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Re: ITP: Postmark - the NetApp benchmark program

1999-12-30 Thread Brian May
 Russell == Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Russell I intend to package Postmark and have it done well before
Russell Jan 2.  Postmark is a file system benchmark developed by
Russell NetApp for showing how good their Filers are.  It's got
Russell some good options and it's a reasonably comprehensive
Russell test of mail server performance.

Russell The upstream source is a single .c file.  I will send in
Russell an archive with makefile, brief man page, etc.  A Debian
Russell diff doesn't really make sense to me as I don't plan to
Russell make any changes to the .c file...  Is it necessary to
Russell have a diff file?

Does upstream distribute a *.tgz or *.tar file?

If not, I wouldn't worry. You cannot maintain prestine source in this
case anyway. I think that is the main benifit on using diff files.

Can you have a Debian package, without a diff, but with a debian
revision?  I think you would have to force dpkg-buildpackage to upload
full source, for instance, with the -si or -sa option (not sure which
one).

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Re: [crash]

1999-12-30 Thread Glynn Clements

Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:

  It linked against Xaw3d/libXaw, even though I told it `athena', not
  `athena3d'...

[snip]

 % ldd /usr/local/src/XEmacs/xemacs-21.2/src/xemacs
   libXaw.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d/libXaw.so.6 (0x4001c000)

It's linked against libXaw.so.6. Exactly which libXaw.so.6 will be
used at run time depends upon first $LD_LIBRARY_PATH and then
/etc/ld.so.cache.

The problem is that only one of the libXaw's will work, i.e. the one
which matches the headers with which XEmacs was compiled.

  Hey, in /etc/ld.so.conf, the Xaw3d lib is listed FIRST, at the top of
  the file.  I bet that's what's wrong.  Do yous think so?

No. The bug is that the Xaw3d version of the library can actually be
found somewhere under the name libXaw.so.6.

  Should I report this as a bug against the Debian Xaw3d package?

You should report the fact that the Xaw3d version is called
libXaw.so.6 as a Debian bug. It's not just Debian that has this bug,
but that doesn't make it any less of a bug.

If you look at your ldd output, you will notice that the dependencies
all include the major version number. This is because different major
versions are, at the binary level, completely different libraries. If
a program was built with the headers for libX11.so.6, libX11.so.7
wouldn't be any more acceptable as a substitute than would libz.so.1.

By the same token, libXaw3d.so.6 isn't an acceptable substitute for
libXaw.so.6, so it shouldn't be available under the name libXaw.so.6.
Not anywhere.

If you want to support Xaw3d, then link with -lXaw3d so that the
binaries explicitly require libXaw3d.so.6. It isn't hard to configure
Xaw3d to look and feel like plain Xaw if you want it to.

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Re: [Solved] Re: syslog and hostname ?

1999-12-30 Thread hypnos
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, aphro wrote:

 i just removed the 'aphro' from my /etc/hosts's line that was
 
 127.0.0.1 localhost aphro
 
 and restarted syslogd and it was back to 'normal' if i add aphro back and
 restart again it goes back to localhost ..odd! (just tried this just now)

Try putting aphro first, as in:

127.0.0.1   aphro localhost

I remember doing that before for some reason, I'm not
sure if that's why or not.

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Re: Possible hosts.allow problem

1999-12-30 Thread hypnos
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, aphro wrote:

 carlf ALL: PARANOID
 carlf 
 carlf Surely that should be blocking anything not on my local LAN.  What's
 carlf up?
 
 that line blocks ALL incoming connections(or at least tries) to daemons in
 /etc/inetd.conf from all hosts, no matter where they are. if what you are
 trying to do is ipmasq that does not connect to any services on the linux
 box only passes through the kernel's firewall rules.



$ man 5 hosts_access

   PARANOID
  Matches  any  host  whose  name  does not match its
  address.   When  tcpd  is  built  with   -DPARANOID
  (default mode), it drops requests from such clients
  even before looking at the access  control  tables.
  Build without -DPARANOID when you want more control
  over such requests.

This doesn't block *all* incoming connections, only those whose
hostname name does not match its address.  ALL: ALL should be
used to block all hosts.

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Multiple virtualusertables

1999-12-30 Thread Brock Rozen
Hi,

Does anybody know how to do this?

Getting one to work is easy, getting multiple alias files is easy -- but
multiple virtualusertables (vut) ??

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cross-compiler patch for GCC

1999-12-30 Thread Raphael Bossek
hi,

i done a patch against gcc 2.95.2-4 which allows to create cross-compilers
using the -t options of dpkg-buildpackage. i will also test dpkg-cross but
i've here a problem with the naming of the new created packages. using the
existent techniques within the package i can only call them arch-os-name
for instance powerpc-linux-gcc or powerpc-linux-libstdc++-dev. is that
allowed by the policy?

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Re: apache+mod_ssl under firewall

1999-12-30 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, aphro wrote:

 best thing to do (what id do) is enable kernel firewall logging and turn
 on logging for your firewall, then examine the logs when you try to
 connect and see what is going on ..

looking at the apache logs I found that the child server is seg faulting.
it's intriguing why this happens only with external clients :-|

thanks any way.

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Re: [Solved] Re: syslog and hostname ?

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, hypnos wrote:

hypnos Try putting aphro first, as in:
hypnos 
hypnos 127.0.0.1   aphro localhost
hypnos 
hypnos I remember doing that before for some reason, I'm not
hypnos sure if that's why or not.

that worked too! cool..thanks!

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Re: Multiple virtualusertables

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
curious as to why you'd want multiple files in the first place ?? i got
about 65 domains im hosting and i cant see a need for another virtual
users table ..at least for my needs..what are yours?

nate


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brozen Hi,
brozen 
brozen Does anybody know how to do this?
brozen 
brozen Getting one to work is easy, getting multiple alias files is easy -- but
brozen multiple virtualusertables (vut) ??
brozen 
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Re: apache+mod_ssl under firewall

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

mario looking at the apache logs I found that the child server is seg faulting.
mario it's intriguing why this happens only with external clients :-|

its possible the firewall blocking the data causes the child server to
segfault..i would think killing the child server(in whatever way it does
it) would be a good thing rather then have it hanging there not being able
to send data to the client.

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Re: apache+mod_ssl under firewall

1999-12-30 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, aphro wrote:

 On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
 
 mario looking at the apache logs I found that the child server is seg 
 faulting.
 mario it's intriguing why this happens only with external clients :-|
 
 its possible the firewall blocking the data causes the child server to
 segfault..i would think killing the child server(in whatever way it does
 it) would be a good thing rather then have it hanging there not being able
 to send data to the client.

but the port 443 is opened at the firewall. the relevants lines are:

curiango:~# ipchains -nvL input
Chain input (policy DENY: 21475 packets, 1547090 bytes):
target prot optsource   destination   ports
ACCEPT tcp  -- 0.0.0.0/0   200.136.52.46 * -   443
ACCEPT udp  -- 0.0.0.0/0   200.136.52.46 * -   443


 
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Re: What is it with very long bug lists?

1999-12-30 Thread Martin Schulze
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
 Some packages (for example gnupg and lintian) have bug lists
 that go back many many months and in some cases years.
 
 Are these bugs still open or did someone just forget to close them?

Normally they're still open.  If you have time to work on them,
patches are always appreciated.

 PS. Is there a mailing list discussing lintian?

Only [EMAIL PROTECTED] but that's the maintainers of lintian.

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