Re: Recuperar de cuelgue de X y consolas
El Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 11:39:23AM +0100, Manel Marin dijo: Feliz 2000 a todos, ¿No os ha pasado nunca que un cuelgue de las X os deja sin consolas? IDEA: En inittab hay una opción kb::kbrequest que puede llamar a un programa o script con una combinación de teclas definida en el controlador de teclado. No creo que funcione porque las X ponen el teclado en modo raw. Esto hace el driver de la consola no pillé las teclas, y por tanto tampoco avisará al init. Yo me hice un demonio que cada cierto tiempo leia directamente del puerto del teclado (060h) las teclas que se habian pulsado, lo que pasa es que si tienes un ratón estilo PS/2 interfiere en las X, cada vez que el demonio lee del puerto se mueve el ratón hacia arriba. :) Si es tipo serie funciona bien, lo tuve configurado para que dejando pulsada la tecla pausa durante 2 segundos rebotesela máquina, funciona en las X y en lo que sea. Si ya sé que es una burrada interferir con el puerto que debe manejar el kernel, pero bueno menos es nada... En fin que es un poco bestia, y quizas a alguien no le funcione, no está muy probado. En fin si alguien lo quiere que me mande un mail, y se lo attacheo. PD: Tengo raton PS/2 :( Saludos y feliz efecto 2000. -- ______ _ ___ / /\ / // __// /\ / /_/_/ // /\ / / / / // /_/___ / /_/__ /_ /\__/_ /////\ \__\/ \__\\\\\/ Powered by Debian GNU/linux Kernel 2.2.13 + ... - [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp key send mail with subject request pgp key _
Re: Recuperar de cuelgue de X y consolas
On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Ismael Canales wrote: IDEA: En inittab hay una opción kb::kbrequest que puede llamar a un programa o script con una combinación de teclas definida en el ¿Y la función de Special commands de gpm no sería también buena idea? :-?
3 dudas 3 y un futurible
Un saludo a todos y felicidades para ese año lleno de ceros que se nos viene encima. Las primeras dudas vienen de Gnome, entorno que estoy probando -siempre fui usuario de wmaker- y que me gusta y que encuentro muy al día y agradable para el uso cotidiano. Primera duda: Me sorprende, a veces, con mensajes del tipo No hay respuesta el comando 'save yourself', puede que el programa sea lento, no esté operativo o no sé qué ¿Por qué? ¿Tiene que ver con salvar sesión al salir? Segunda duda: Cuando pulso el botón derecho del ratón espero el menú contextual de Gnome pero me sale el de Enlighetenment. El de Gnome me sale sólo si pulso la tecla ALT a la vez que el botón derecho: ¿Cómo puedo modificar este comportamiento? Tercera duda: Tiene que ver con Sendmail; me encuentro en el /etc/hosts.allow un 'sendmail:all' cuando lo que tengo definido en ese fichero es que nada de nada... El futurible: ¿Qué está pasando con las news? ¿Se trata de un golpe de estado en Internet? Creía tener entendido que la Red Iris había abandonado la Usenet, y que la política de los distintos proveedores era un poco 'conmigo o contra mí', y que dos y dos son cuatro casi siempre Los que sabéis más de estas cosas: ¿es eso lo que está pasando? Porque si es así, y si lo que nos quedan son los portales... ¡Apaga y vámonos de nuevo a fidonet! En fin, abrazos, y nos leemos uno de estos siglos ;( Manuel. --- Usuario de Debian GNU/Linux, Slink, kernel 2.2.13 Registro nº 90705 en http://counter.li.org
RE: Otro intento de arrancar X windows con savage 3D
-Mensaje original- De: Miguel A. Abarca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Lista Debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: jueves 30 de diciembre de 1999 18:48 Asunto: Otro intento de arrancar X windows con savage 3D [...] ejecuto startx (fichero x.log). Por cierto, el principio de cada una de estas líneas es (--) o (**), ¿significa eso algo? Creo que (--) indica un dato que ha sido detectado por el driver y (**) que se lo has dicho tú por medio del fichero de configuración. Ricardo Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft
¿Efecto 2000, actualización de la bios,...?
Hola Resulta que no puedo conectarme a internet y no se si es un efecto del 2000 o tendrá que ver con que he hecho una actualización de la bios el caso es que de repente he pasado de realizar la conexión sin problemas a no realizarla. Para la conexión utilizo un script 'ineton' que os pongo a continuación y que como veis utiliza pon para conectarse con el demonio pppd, también os pongo el log que me aparece nada más lanzar el pppd me saca de el. (El modem no llega a marcar evidantemente. Desde W9x conecto sin problemas). [EMAIL PROTECTED] (/home/ijalonso)$ cat ineton #!/bin/sh # # ineton # # Conectar a Internet # Lanzar el demonio pppd: pon # Mirar en los log como va la conexion (tail -f /var/log/messages | egrep ppd||chat) # Coger/Enviar correo # Normalmente se tardan 25 - 35 seg. en conectar sleep 40 # Mato el plog killall -v -9 tail #Mando el correo en la cola: smail -q # Llamo a fetchmail: fetchmail -d 600 -v -L /home/ijalonso/etc/fetchmail.log # Se va viendo el log de fetchmail en la consola 8 (tail -f /home/ijalonso/etc/fetchmail.log /dev/tty8) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (/home/ijalonso)$ ineton Jan 2 17:34:57 T1000 kernel: SLIP: version 0.8.4-NET3.019-NEWTTY-MODULAR (dynamic channels, max=256). Jan 2 17:34:57 T1000 kernel: SLIP linefill/keepalive option. Jan 2 17:34:57 T1000 kernel: Unable to load NLS charset cp437(nls_cp437) Jan 2 17:34:57 T1000 kernel: Unable to load NLS charset iso8859-1(nls_iso8859_1) Jan 2 17:37:57 T1000 kernel: registered device ppp0 Jan 2 17:37:57 T1000 pppd[203]: pppd 2.3.5 started by ijalonso, uid 1000 Jan 2 17:37:58 T1000 pppd[203]: Exit. Jan 2 17:41:53 T1000 logger: Cron job - running checkerr as mail Jan 2 17:42:15 T1000 syslogd 1.3-3#31: restart. Jan 2 17:43:58 T1000 pppd[455]: pppd 2.3.5 started by ijalonso, uid 1000 Jan 2 17:43:59 T1000 pppd[455]: Exit. Estoy absolutamente despistado y no se ni por donde meterle mano al problema, así que cualquier ayuda que me presteis sera eternamente agradecida :-) -- ===NaClU2=== _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Desde: 40º25'N 3º39'O _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ http://web.jet.es/ijalonso
debian + oracle + apache-ssl ?
Saludos a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Estoy proyectando una tienda virtual, en principio usaré Debian + Oracle4linux + Apache-ssl para ello estaría ecantado de recibir comentarios al respecto de: -Alguien que haya creado alguna aplicación con Oracle en Linux... algo en OracleDb ? ...o en Oracle AS ? -Alguien que haya instalado un certificado en un servidor Apache-Ssl y donde puedo encontrar información de todo ello gracias ! jaume teixi www.tegiba.com/teixi
Re: Recuperar de cuelgue de X y consolas
On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 08:14:52AM +0100, Ismael Canales wrote: No creo que funcione porque las X ponen el teclado en modo raw. Esto hace el driver de la consola no pillé las teclas, y por tanto tampoco avisará al init. Tienes razon, CTRL+ALT+SUPR tampoco va desde las X... LA SOLUCION ( como me gusta linux, y como voy a fardar en el curro mañana ;-) Para poder salir del modo RAW en que deja las X el teclado cuando se cuelgan hay que recompilar el kernel activando la Magic SysRq key --- 1) Modificar en /usr/src/linux/include/asm/keyboard.h la linea #define SYSRQ_KEY 0x54 por: #define SYSRQ_KEY 0x0f /* Para usar TAB + r */ o: #define SYSRQ_KEY 0x0e /* Para usar DEL + r */ MOTIVO: El teclado ya no genera el codigo scan 0x54 al pulsar la tecla SysRq COMO VER LOS CODIGOS SCAN: showkeys -s (10 segundos sin pulsar nada para salir) --- 2) Recompilar el kernel (2.2.13) activando la opción: Kernel hacking - Magic SysRq key --- 3) Instalar la imagen, ejecutar lilo, y reiniciar el S.O. --- 4) Ahora con TAB + r puedes salir del modo raw, hacer ALT+F1... -- Por cierto hay mas teclas magicas: t[E]rm, k[I]ll # Todos los procesos menos init [S]ync, [U]mount, [B]oot# Para cierre cuando hay problemas graves TAB+a (ayuda) o TAB+h (help) te da la lista de teclas magicas Mas info: con los fuentes del kernel en linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt Feliz 2000 a todos, -- Manel Marin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Powered (Debian 2.1 slink) kernel 2.2.13 con SysRq enabled ;-)
Castellanización de Debian
Estoy de vuelta del campamento de la mili, tres meses en Graná, y voy a volver a retomar la coordinación de la traducción del servidor de Debian, colaborando con Jesús González Barahona, que lo ha llevado en mi ausencia. Al tiempo que voy a dedicarme a esta coordinación, y tras discutirlo con Jesús, nos gustaría empezar a reunir gente para un proyecto más ambicioso que consistiría en la completa castellanización de la distribución. Este proyecto consistiría de varias partes: 1.- traducción del servidor de WWW al castellano, proyecto ya en marcha pero para el que es necesario un grupo de personas interesadas en dedicar tiempo para ir traduciendo contenidos y actualizar los ya traducidos. 2.- traducción de documentación. En principio empezando en aquella que pueda ser de mayor interés para el usuario final, trabajo ya comenzado con la traducción del manual de instalación y algunos otros documentos, pero que necesita de mucho empuje para llegar a traducir todos los documentos del Debian Documentation Proyect. 3.- internacionalización de la distribución. Traduciendo las herramientas de gestión de paquetes y la descripción de paquetes misma, así como otros programas de gran interés para el usuario hispano-parlante. Cabe destacar el esfuerzo de Enrique Zanardi que coordina la traducción de la instalación (boot-floppies) pero es necesario llevarlo más alla, trabajando en modificar dpkg de forma que se puedan incorporar traducciones de las descripciones de *todos* los paquetes integrantes de la distribución. 4.- Inclusión de paquetes exclusivamente pensados para hispanoparlantes, en la línea del trabajo desarrollado por debian-jp, y que yo timidamente empezé con la creación de un paquete específico para hispano-parlantes llamado 'user-es' que adapta el sistema para que el usuario no tenga que configurar apenas cosas para tenerlo *todo* en su propio idioma. Pero se podrían pensar en muchas más cosas, que puedan luego incluirse en la distribución, si tienen cabida, o dentro de un almacén de paquetes para usuarios hispano-parlantes. Como veis el trabajo a realizar es muy extenso, y para eso se necesita que sean los propios usuarios y desarrolladores hispano-parlantes los que colaboren en hacerlo posible. Todo el trabajo se va a discutir, de momento (está en estudio abrir foros alternativos), en debian-l10-spanish, así que rogamos a los interesados que se apunten a esta lista de correo. Estoy abierto a oir vuestras opiniones y sugerencias. Un saludo y feliz año 2000 Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
Re: Login to X Windows System
On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DRBLON However when I'm in X and choose the exit option I just get an X-Windows DRBLON log-in prompt again and the only way of re-booting is then as far as I can If what your trying to do is go to the console, because of the way XDM operates(its like an X wrapper, restarts X automatically if/when it dies) then you have 2 options: 1) swap to the console with CTRL+ALT+F1 key combonation (not reccomended, it can crash some videocards) 2) go to a shell, become root(if your not already) and kill the XDM process, then exit X either gracefully via the window manager, or if your in a rush or in a pissy mood you can just nuke it by using the CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE key combonation :) that will kill it _real_ fast. but CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE will not kill XDM, only X. or you could change to another display manager like KDM that allows reboot/shutdown from the inital display. if your looking to shutdown and/or reboot from X, just su up and hit reboot, or type shutdown -h now (halt now) or shutdown -r now (reboot now) DRBLON Thanks for your prompt responses and help I have to say I'm genuinely DRBLON impressed by the quality of support on this list. sure, glad to help, if this didnt fully answer your question lemme know nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 3:58pm up 135 days, 3:53, 3 users, load average: 1.35, 1.46, 1.49
Yahoo messenger
Does anybody know if yahoo messenger (java version) works fine in UNIX? Is there any other instant messenger such as ICQ, or ATT I am here for Linux? Thanks, Antonio.
Help with broken lpd
Hello all, I have had a Debian 2.1 setup running for several months as an AppleTalk printer server. It has worked quite well until the last few days. Now whenever I try to print from one of the Mac's on the network (or from a linux machine through the AppleTalk network with 'pap'). I can still print localy with 'lpr' and remotely with 'rlpr' on the affected machine Here is the errors I get: /var/log/lpr.log: Jan 1 17:29:34 whitehouse papd[433]: child 718 for DeskJet from 21.4 Jan 1 17:29:34 whitehouse papd[718]: lp_conn_unix connect /dev/printer: No such file or directory Jan 1 17:29:34 whitehouse papd[718]: lp_print: lp_conn_unix: No such file or directory Jan 1 17:29:34 whitehouse papd[433]: child 718 done Jan 1 17:30:34 whitehouse lpd[728]: lp: job could not be printed (cfA012whitehouse.dyn.ml.org) Now, I'm no expert on such matters, but I assume that /dev/printer is a unix socket for that lpd manages for local printing jobs. I have no such file listed under my /dev/ directory. I recently upgraded a bunch of packages that had available updates via dselect/apt, but I have to admit that I didn't notice if lpd or netatalk was among them. All of my config files (i.e. printcap, papd.conf, etc) are unchanged from the versions that were working a few days ago. Any help with this perplexing problem would be greatly apprectiated. Ben -- __oBenjamin White, MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] -\,http://exiled.net/~bwhite/home.html (_)/(_) Public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] or see my home page Key fingerprint = DB0F124D 477EA116 3113F306 DC1D4858
Re: Yahoo messenger
On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 19:16, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: Does anybody know if yahoo messenger (java version) works fine in UNIX? Is there any other instant messenger such as ICQ, or ATT I am here for Linux? The Java version of Yahoo Messenger works for me. Debian slink, Kernel 2.0.36, Netscape Navigator 4.5. Luck, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Re: Yahoo messenger
On 02-Jan-2000 Pann McCuaig wrote: On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 19:16, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: Does anybody know if yahoo messenger (java version) works fine in UNIX? Is there any other instant messenger such as ICQ, or ATT I am here for Linux? The Java version of Yahoo Messenger works for me. Debian slink, Kernel 2.0.36, Netscape Navigator 4.5. There are also ICQ clones for UNIX. One of the best is Licq. http://licq.wibble.net/ You will need to install QT if you don't already have it installed, in order to use Licq. -- Andrew
Re: Yahoo messenger
Does anybody know if yahoo messenger (java version) works fine in UNIX? Is there any other instant messenger such as ICQ, or ATT I am here for Linux? The Java version of Yahoo Messenger works for me. Debian slink, Kernel 2.0.36, Netscape Navigator 4.5. and for me, running debian gnu/linux 2.1 (slink), kernel 2.2.13, and netscape v3.04 also, there are a bunch of icq clients for linux. i have micq (www.freshmeat.net) installed, though i hardly ever use it. -- hypnos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xircom RealPort Ethernet/Modem on Debian
I have it working (sort of) with slink on a no brand laptop. It took me a while to configure it. The problem is I cannot use the ethernet and the modem at the same time. E-mail what you do and where it fails so we can give you more concise replyies. *QUESTION*: Everybody using a Xircom Ethernet/Modem that works OK is also using VESA framebufer in the kernel? I sopose you guys have SHARED IRQ for serial device turned ON... don't you? I read in Kernel Traffic that VESA framebuffer support in the kernel makes interrupt handling a little sluggish. This means that some interrupts may ve lost and as I have to use VESA framebuffer, I lose some interrupts (as reflected on syslog) AND my Xircom card does not work to full exttent I thougt it may have to do with VESA framebuffer support. Anyway... Merry Xmas and Happy New Year! Rafa -- De: Bryan K. Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Debian Laptop Mailing List debian-laptop@lists.debian.org, Debian-User Mailing List debian-user@lists.debian.org Asunto: Xircom RealPort Ethernet/Modem on Debian Fecha: sáb., 1 ener 2000 02:20 Hi everybody, Has anyone got these new Xircom RealPort Ethernet 10/100+Modem 56 PCMCIA cards to run on Debian? If anybody has any ideas, I would be most appreciative. Thanks, Bryan Walton -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LILO and Multiple Disks
Hello, I am quite a new user to Linux and thus I was looking to install a dual-boot system. I have figured out this much so far... I have two hard disks. My Linux disk is on the primary master. It contains the following partitions: hda1, hda2, hda5. I also have a Windows 98 disk on the secondary slave. It contains the following partitions: [PTBL], hdd1. I am quite able to boot up Linux, so I'm pretty sure I've got that set up correctly. I can disable the primary master in my BIOS, which will then boot up my secondary slave drive and up pops a Windows 98 boot-up screen. However, what I cannot do is convince LILO that it should boot up Windows 98 when I configure it thus: --- BEGIN FILE lilo.conf --- verbose=5 compact boot=/dev/hda1 root=/dev/hda1 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 append=ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x320,eth1 #Linux image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only #Win98 other=/dev/hdd1 label=Win98 table=/dev/hdd #Floppy other=/dev/fd0 label=Floppy END FILE lilo.conf If it helps anybody, I've also logged what LILO does when it looks at this configuration file. --- BEGIN LOG --- Reading boot sector from /dev/hda1 Device 0x0300: BIOS drive 0x80, 64 heads, 827 cylinders, 63 sectors. Partition offset: 0 sectors. Merging with /boot/boot.b Device 0x0301: BIOS drive 0x80, 64 heads, 827 cylinders, 63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors. fd 5: offset 512 - dev 128, head 35, track 4, sector 58 fd 5: offset 1024 - dev 128, head 35, track 4, sector 59 fd 5: offset 1536 - dev 128, head 35, track 4, sector 60 fd 5: offset 2048 - dev 128, head 35, track 4, sector 61 fd 5: offset 2560 - dev 128, head 35, track 4, sector 62 fd 5: offset 3072 - dev 128, head 35, track 4, sector 63 fd 5: offset 3584 - dev 128, head 36, track 4, sector 1 fd 5: offset 4096 - dev 128, head 36, track 4, sector 2 Secondary loader: 8 sectors. Device 0x0301: BIOS drive 0x80, 64 heads, 827 cylinders, 63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors. fd 5: offset 1536 - dev 128, head 30, track 4, sector 9 fd 5: offset 2048 - dev 128, head 30, track 4, sector 10 fd 5: offset 2560 - dev 128, head 30, track 4, sector 11 fd 5: offset 3072 - dev 128, head 30, track 4, sector 12 Boot image: /vmlinuz Device 0x0301: BIOS drive 0x80, 64 heads, 827 cylinders, 63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors. Setup length is 9 sectors. fd 6: offset 0 - dev 128, head 13, track 4, sector 63 fd 6: offset 512 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 1 fd 6: offset 1024 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 2 fd 6: offset 1536 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 3 fd 6: offset 2048 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 4 fd 6: offset 2560 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 5 fd 6: offset 3072 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 6 fd 6: offset 3584 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 7 fd 6: offset 4096 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 8 fd 6: offset 4608 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 9 fd 6: offset 5120 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 10 fd 6: offset 5632 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 11 fd 6: offset 6144 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 12 fd 6: offset 6656 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 13 fd 6: offset 7168 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 14 fd 6: offset 7680 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 15 fd 6: offset 8192 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 16 fd 6: offset 8704 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 17 fd 6: offset 9216 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 18 fd 6: offset 9728 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 19 fd 6: offset 10240 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 20 fd 6: offset 10752 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 21 fd 6: offset 11264 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 22 fd 6: offset 11776 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 23 fd 6: offset 12288 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 26 fd 6: offset 12800 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 27 fd 6: offset 13312 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 28 fd 6: offset 13824 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 29 fd 6: offset 14336 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 30 fd 6: offset 14848 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 31 fd 6: offset 15360 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 32 fd 6: offset 15872 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 33 fd 6: offset 16384 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 34 fd 6: offset 16896 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 35 fd 6: offset 17408 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 36 fd 6: offset 17920 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 37 fd 6: offset 18432 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 38 fd 6: offset 18944 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 39 fd 6: offset 19456 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 40 fd 6: offset 19968 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 41 fd 6: offset 20480 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 42 fd 6: offset 20992 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 43 fd 6: offset 21504 - dev 128, head 14, track 4, sector 44 fd 6: offset 22016 - dev 128, head
Re: can someone pls. provide me a list of URI's for apt to work properly
On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Joseph de los Santos wrote: : Happy New Year to All!!! : :Can someone please provide me a list of URI's to add to my sources.list : for apt to work properly for slink/stable (main, contrib,non-free and : non-us) because I am always having malformed errors whenever I try to : install packages from the web. deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian slink main contrib non-free deb http://nonus.debian.org/debian-non-US slink non-US deb http://security.debian.org slink updates deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/ y2k-update main Should work. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
a couple of questions
Hi! I just wanted to ask a couple of questions: 1. I just installed a compatible soundcard and I want to know how to make debian recognize it. 2. I just recently installed a new browser netscape 407 but when I try to launch it nothing happens. I even tried installing mosaic too but mosaic is not visible in my gnome desktop environment. I do not know whats wrong can somebody please advice? 3. is there a command to see packages that are available in the debian ftp server after apt-get update? thanks for any help. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: local mirror of potato?
On 1 Jan 2000, Francois Deppierraz wrote: : Robert L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : : care if I mirror certain things. Where, how would I mirror a potato : site so I can tar the files up, put em on a few zip disks to take : home and un-tar to do an dist-upgrade? Anyone doing this? Can you : : You can use the programm mirror which you can find at : http://sunsite.org.uk/packages/mirror/ and you can use the config files : avaiable in the debian package. This is true. It's also (IMO) bad advice - mirror sucks for any number of reasons. 1) It's slow. 2) It beats the hell out of the client. 3) It beats the hell out of the server. 4) It doesn't always do the right thing (it makes mistakes). A better idea would be to install the `rsync' package and find a debian mirror which offers anonymous rsync access. You can find rsyncable mirrors by reading http://www.debian.org/mirror/mirrors_full HTH, -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
On-line help
Hello, I just had X windows working and was reading some of the Debian on-line help. I don't what I did, but now I can't get the help to load up again?? Maybe I damaged it when I ended the help session ? new subject: does anyone know if I can get the Zoom 56K PCI faxmodem - model 2925L to work under Linux? If so, is there a special trick? Thanks for helping. Don
Re: a couple of questions
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 02:36:33AM +, =: !! wrote: Hi! I just wanted to ask a couple of questions: 1. I just installed a compatible soundcard and I want to know how to make debian recognize it. I don't think the stock Debian kernel has sound support built in. You may need to compile a new kernel (not hard -- really!). The harder part is getting the correct driver configured and your hardware recognized. You'll have to give more information about the type of sound card (ISA|PCI) and what you've tried thus far. 2. I just recently installed a new browser netscape 407 but when I try to launch it nothing happens. I even tried installing mosaic too but mosaic is not visible in my gnome desktop environment. I do not know whats wrong can somebody please advice? Well, it's probably not not doing anything. Try launching it from an xterm by typing in `netscape'. It may be seg-faulting automatically. It may be you don't have all of the parts installed (unlikely if it's on your menu) or it's having problems with libc5 compatibility. I think the Mosaic package has a bug report against it for not setting up a menu entry properly. You can try it from the command line with `mosaic'. It's a poor substitute though. 3. is there a command to see packages that are available in the debian ftp server after apt-get update? dpkg --print-avail package or dpkg -l '*' dpkg.list Since there are so many packages (4000+), you'd be better off browsing them from Debian's website or through dselect -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: rdate fails Y2K?
It's working now: # rdate time.nist.gov Sat Jan 1 20:12:01 2000 On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 05:06:59PM -, Pollywog wrote: On 01-Jan-2000 Pann McCuaig wrote: # ping time.nist.gov PING time.nist.gov (192.43.244.18): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.43.244.18: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=85.3 ms 64 bytes from 192.43.244.18: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=92.2 ms --- time.nist.gov ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 85.3/88.7/92.2 ms # rdate -p time.nist.gov rdate: Could not read data: No such file or directory Same here, just a couple of minutes ago. -- Andrew -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Bob Nielsen, W6SWE (RN2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ DM42nh QRP-L #1985 http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Yahoo messenger
Antonio Rodriguez wrote: snip Is there any other instant messenger such as ICQ, or ATT I am here for Linux? There are many ICQ clients for Linux. For more info see: http://www.portup.com/~gyandl/icq/ There are Debian packages for some of them. I know that for potato there is at least licq, micq, zicq, everybuddy, and gnomeicu. There may be others that I missed. I've used licq - works quite well. everybuddy is supposed to be able to talk with ICQ, AIM, and Yahoo Messenger all with the same program. Sounds pretty promising - I plan on trying it myself. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | Where do you want to go today? ICQ# 12934898 | As far from Redmond as possible! '91 GS500E| Morgantown WV | Only dead fish go with the flow.
Re: On-line help
On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 09:06:51AM -0600, Don Cavaiani wrote: Hello, I just had X windows working and was reading some of the Debian on-line help. I don't what I did, but now I can't get the help to load up again?? Maybe I damaged it when I ended the help session ? What means ``Debian on-line help''? man? info? dhelp? dwww? It's unlikely that you broke it unless you removed something. new subject: does anyone know if I can get the Zoom 56K PCI faxmodem - model 2925L to work under Linux? If so, is there a special trick? Buy a new modem! (PCI modem == Winmodem) -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: need XF86Config for ThinkPad 560
On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Mike Werner wrote: Pollywog wrote: I can't seem to cook up a working XF86Config for my ThinkPad 560 this time around. On prior installs, the Debian install seemed to do this for me but it did not happen this time and without the specs, I can't seem to be able to do it. Does anyone have a working config they would share? Hi! I missed the first message, so this is just to the list. I'm including a working XF86Config for an original P120 TP560 with a 12.1 Active Matrix screen. Don't use this config for the dual scan version. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. # # XFree86 configuration for IBM ThinkPad 560 # Renaud Waldura 2/5/99 # Adapted from others, see http://www.artic.org/~dgaudet/tp560/ # Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ EndSection Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard AutoRepeat 500 5 EndSection Section Pointer ProtocolPS/2 Device /dev/mouse Emulate3Buttons Emulate3Timeout 50 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier ThinkPad VendorName IBM ModelName 560 HorizSync 25-79 VertRefresh 20-76 Modeline640x480 28.32 640 664 760 800480 491 493 525 ModeLine800x600 28.32 800 808 1024 1040 600 600 626 640 +hsync +vsync EndSection Section Device Identifier GUI VendorName Trident BoardName 9385 Option noaccel EndSection Section Device Identifier svga VendorName IBM BoardName bar Chipset generic ClockChip tgui VideoRam1024 EndSection Section Screen Driver svga Device GUI Monitor ThinkPad DefaultColorDepth 16 Subsection Display Depth 8 Modes 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Modes 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 32 Modes 640x400 EndSubsection EndSection Section Screen Driver VGA16 Device svga Monitor ThinkPad SubSection Display Depth 4 Modes 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection
Re: On-line help
Eric G . Miller wrote: On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 09:06:51AM -0600, Don Cavaiani wrote: snip new subject: does anyone know if I can get the Zoom 56K PCI faxmodem - model 2925L to work under Linux? If so, is there a special trick? Buy a new modem! (PCI modem == Winmodem) Not necessarily. There are PCI modems that are known to be actual hardware modems listed at http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html Granted they are few and far between, but they do exist. Having said that, the Zoom modem asked about is indeed listed as being a Winmodem. So in this case, a new modem is in order. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | Where do you want to go today? ICQ# 12934898 | As far from Redmond as possible! '91 GS500E| Morgantown WV | Only dead fish go with the flow.
Re: On-line help
Don Cavaiani wrote: Hello, I just had X windows working and was reading some of the Debian on-line help. I don't what I did, but now I can't get the help to load up again?? Maybe I damaged it when I ended the help session ? Pass new subject: does anyone know if I can get the Zoom 56K PCI faxmodem - model 2925L to work under Linux? If so, is there a special trick? No, it is a Winmodem. See : http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/19991230a.html Cheers, -- Howard Mann Online Troubleshooting Resources: HOWTO http://www.newbielinux.comhttp://www.xmission.com/~howardm/t1.html
Re: problems w/Recent Upgrade to October GNOME
Martin Bialasinski wrote: Does dpkg -s mc show a dependancy on libgpm* ? - output from dpkg -s mc: Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: utils Installed-Size: 667 Maintainer: Michael Bramer Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 4.5.40-2.slink.0 Depends: mc-common (= 4.5.40-2.slink.0), libc6, libglib1.2 (= 1.2.0), slang1 ( 1.3), slang1 ( 1.2.2-0) Suggests: gpm, rpm Conffiles: /etc/mc/mc.ext a2258b22e25d6e3f50a71d2eea885e9d Description: Midnight Commander - A powerful file manager. - normal version Midnight Commander is a feature-rich file manager. It has mouse support in a linux console and in an xterm. It started as a Norton Commander clone but now it is far superior to it. Among other things it can do FTP, includes a hexeditor, comes with an internal editor which can be invoked separately as 'mcedit' and lets you do most system administration tasks. Browsing, unpacking and installation of Debian packages is possible by just pressing enter on a *.deb file. Handling of other archive formats like rpm, zip, zoo and tar.gz is equally supported. This version comes with undelete for ext2 filesystems compiled in. -- This has me really perplexed. I can find no reason why the mouse is not working. I only use it in mc, not in any other console programs. It works fine elsewhere. Thanks guys! -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Re: problems w/Recent Upgrade to October GNOME
Eric G . Miller wrote: I believe icewm-gnome knows when it's running under gnome session management and automatically hides the taskbar. It's assumed that you'd be using panel. You can disable this behaviour in ~/.icewm/preferences but when I did so, the side effects were undesirable. Personally, when I use IceWM under gnome, I use two panel instaces. One is a bottome panel with launchers, applets, monitors, etc. and the other is a corner panel that simply has the pager in it (set to autohide). The set-up works pretty well. --- The pager was what I needed. This takes care of the taskbar issue. Thanks!! Hope the mouse business is this easy. -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Same dates between Debian and Windows
Hello, I have Debian and Windows installed on the system and for the life of me I can't seem to be able to get their dates to match up. I've tried various programs that do things with NTP servers and have tried to configure them with/without GMT offsets and I've also played around with linuxconf (with linuxconf-x package installed too), but no matter what I do, the Debian and Windows dates don't match up. They're 5 hours apart from each other. If I change one of them to the correct date, the other one will be off by five hours. Any ideas? This problem is especially annoying because of the time it consumes just with me rebooting between the two OSes to see if their dates are finally in sync. -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com Join AllAdvantage.com and get paid to surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ARD582
RE: a couple of questions
2. I just recently installed a new browser Netscape 407 but when I try to launch it nothing happens. I even tried installing mosaic too but mosaic is not visible in my gnome desktop environment. I do not know what's wrong can somebody please advice? Try launching it as non-root. I installed Netscape 4.07 from the tar format on RedHat and it wouldn't let me run Netscape as root. Its possible your encountering the same security issue. Supposedly, there is a way to allow root to run Netscape but I don't recall where that setting is made. Kind regards, Hagen Finley Longs Drugs Walnut Creek, CA
Re: Same dates between Debian and Windows
Bart Szyszka wrote: Hello, I have Debian and Windows installed on the system and for the life of me I can't seem to be able to get their dates to match up. I've tried various programs that do things with NTP servers and have tried to configure them with/without GMT offsets and I've also played around with linuxconf (with linuxconf-x package installed too), but no matter what I do, the Debian and Windows dates don't match up. They're 5 hours apart from each other. If I change one of them to the correct date, the other one will be off by five hours. Any ideas? This problem is especially annoying because of the time it consumes just with me rebooting between the two OSes to see if their dates are finally in sync. -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com Join AllAdvantage.com and get paid to surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ARD582 You've got three separate clocks to be concerned with: 1) the hardware (CMOS) clock 2) the Windows software clock (read during boot from the hardware clock, or set via some sort of ntp application) 3) the Linux software clock (read during boot from the hardware clock or set via some sort of ntp application) First thing is to decide if you want the hardware clock set to local time or GMT time. Most DOS/Windows computers have their hardware clocks set to local time, whereas most UNIX computers have their hardware clocks set to GMT time. I'm not sure if Windows can deal with the hardware clock being set to GMT time, so you might want to set the hardware clock to local time. Then the Windows software clock and the hardware clock should agree. Now, in Linux, you can use the tzconfig program to set the local time zone. In addition, you need to let the system know if the hardware clock is set to GMT or local time. According to man tzconfig, this setting is specified in /etc/default/rcS. So edit this file, and there's a GMT= line and a comment above that line that explains how the GMT= line should be set. Assuming you've set the hardware clock to local time, just leave the line as GMT=; if you've set the hardware clock to GMT time, set it to GMT=-u. Now all three clocks should agree.
Re: Same dates between Debian and Windows
Oops, left out a step. Kent West wrote: snip is specified in /etc/default/rcS. So edit this file, and there's a GMT= line and a comment above that line that explains how the GMT= line should be set. Assuming you've set the hardware clock to local time, just leave the line as GMT=; if you've set the hardware clock to GMT time, set it to GMT=-u. Now run /etc/rcS.d/S[xx]hwclock.sh start as root. Now all three clocks should agree. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Lost Interupt and Dead HD
Hi folks, and happy new year! We have seen people posting about the kernel error message of Lost_Interupt (or something similar) reasonably regularly, and then people usually post back saying 'your HD is about to die, replace it', and everyone then goes back on with their lives. I too have had this error, and assumed that the HD was just going bad (which was confirmed by doing a BIOS low-level format). No-one likes it when a HD dies, but everything has a useful life-span. However, I recently installed debian onto a machine, where this error again showed up, twice, on different drives (on oldish, one brand new, both from different manifacturers). The larger, newer drive was the first to go - the drive made weird noises, spouted the error lots of times. When I got around to running a fsck on the drive, most of the contents had ended up in lost+found, and I basically had to write the installation off. I tried to convice the owner of said computer that it might have been a faulty drive (there is an identical one running in a Mandrake 6.1 machine which has had no problems). I then got the smaller, older drive in the same machine, and reinstalled onto that (I have been using this smaller drive as the root drive, with /home and /var on the larger, newer drive). After a few hours of reinstalling everything (the machine had not yet gone into production, so there was no backup), and installing the latest kernel (2.2.13, 2.2.12 had been running when the drive died), everything seems håppy. I get back from my new-years camping trip, and about an hour later I get a call to say that the machine has died again, this time with the other (older drive). Same symptoms - the owner turned off the computer when the drive went nuts (those who had heard it know it's not a pretty sound to hear from a delicate piece of electronics!), and although I have yet to see it in person, I'm not going to surprised if this drive is cactus as well (this time we have a backup). So, what do we have. Two drives - different sizes, different ages, different manifacturers, one the primary master, the other the secondary master. Two different kernels, both with CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=n (which some have suggested might help), both with all the various IDE chipset workarounds enabled. An extremely vanilla installation of debian 2.1 (with all the latest official add-ons, and non of the non-offical ones). We have an identical drive working flawlessly in both other linux and windows NT machines. The same machine (with same drives) also ran with no problems with an NT installation). In both cases, the problem manifested after the machines had been running 24/7 for a few weeks (not sure exacly how long, but at least 14 days). It is *possible* that both drives were faulty and about to die anyway, but it looks very unlikely to me that they would both die in the same machine in the same way. Unfortunately I don't have the make and model of the motherboard with me, but it was running a Cyrix 266 chip in a fairly generic motherboard, the same combination we run in other machines with no problems that I am aware of. If I had to guess, I'd say that maybe the kernel didn't like the IDE controller (don't know make/model again), but it sounds like a pretty lame excuse when other OSs didn't have any problem with it. This machine was to be our new main server, running mail, dns, web, ppp, firewall, all the mod cons. I managed to successfully argue running debian, because if I was administering it, I wanted something I knew well. Of course, since we have never had a problem with any of our other RedHat or Mandrake boxes, Debian is being singled out as the culprate. I'm being told I should install RedHat, and forget debian, as it's the cause of all the woes in the world. I'd be very suprised if anything partiular in debian was the problem, more likely to be a kernel issue, I would think, which means it's distribution independent. But if I don't come up with a solution soon, it's going to be back to redhat (or worse still, NT)... Switch MBs/Machines might be a solution, but the sad fact is that if I have to use a new MB, I'm going to be going back to a P100 or something, which is not an accpetable solution, as far as I'm concerned. I *know* this issue has come up before, and I'm pretty sure no-one has suggested a plausible solution other than 'dump the hardware'. Should I just swap motherboards, go back to an underpowered machine (yes, it's all relative, I know, but I've had to fight to get good hardware for the linux servers)? Is there a chance it's debian related? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) / It's not a sense of humor. * Criminologist / It's a sense of irony * Webmeister / disguised as one. * Linux Geek / - Bruce Sterling
Re: a couple of questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hagen Finley) wrote: 2. I just recently installed a new browser Netscape 407 but when I try to launch it nothing happens. I even tried installing mosaic too but mosaic is not visible in my gnome desktop environment. I do not know what's wrong can somebody please advice? Try launching it as non-root. I installed Netscape 4.07 from the tar format on RedHat and it wouldn't let me run Netscape as root. Its possible your encountering the same security issue. Supposedly, there is a way to allow root to run Netscape but I don't recall where that setting is made. I wouldn't bother trying to find out. I can't think of any good reason to run Netscape as root. If somehow your user X session is broken and you need to find out from the net how to fix it, you can always use lynx or w3m, which are both perfectly good text-mode web browsers. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Same dates between Debian and Windows
Kent == Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kent I'm not sure if Windows can deal with the hardware clock Kent being set to GMT time, so you might want to set the hardware Kent clock to local time. What do you mean? If Windows could deal properly with the hardware clock being set to GMT, then I wouldn't have any problems with daylights savings... Windows would no longer achieve its reputation for being stupid ;-) (well... at least in this area). Seriously, if anyone knows how, then please tell me -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
please help a newbie
Hello 1. I just installed a compatible soundcard and I want to know how to make debian recognise it. 2. I just recently installed a new browser netscape 407 but when I try to launch it in gnome nothing happens. I do not know whats wrong can somebody please help? 3. is there a command to see all available packages that are available for install/upgrade in the debian ftp server after apt-get update? thank you very much. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
alien not y2k compliant?
Ok... I'm trying to scan myself and build a nice little security tool. This is the first thing I've run into but still {0}:wally:/usr/src/Util-System/nmapalien -d nmap-2.3BETA12*rpm -- Examining nmap-2.3BETA12-1.i386.rpm -- Unpacking nmap-2.3BETA12-1.i386.rpm 1222 blocks -- Automatic package debianization alien: 822-date did not return a valid result. :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting.| and defintely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. http://www.rnd-consulting.com/~nomad DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
How to make all build using --cpu=pentium?
Are there any globle settings to set a 'make' using gcc with --cpu=pentium? I don't want to change every Makefile when I try to have my system optimized with pentium cpu. Maybe some setting for 'gcc' or 'make'? Thanks.
Re: Lost Interupt and Dead HD
advice i can give .. 1) it is possible the controller is faulty. i had a BRAND new drive die within hours/days when connected to a faulty controller. 2) get a diagnostics program for the drive/controller, unfortunately such programs do not come cheap, i suggest Microscope, availlable at www.micro2000.com 3) purchase a drive that has a diagnostics program for it, IBM has *EXCELLENT* diagnostics for their drives(their software is on their site) and maxtor also has a diagnostics programs(they forced me to run it before they would issue me an RMA#) that way you can at least tell for sure if the drive is faulty, kernel errors are a good sign but its usually not a sure thing until you start suffering data loss. 4) also never never ever do a bios low level format on an ide drive unless the program comes from the maker of the drive, low level formatting an IDE drive has about a 99% chance of destorying the drive, for good. Really old IDE drives (say 420MB and smaller) didn't have a problem with low level formats, but newer drives do. I can't explain why it destorys an IDE drive(when it is actually reccomended and sometimes required on a SCSI drive), i've seen it happen many many times and read countless people reccomend against it. hope this helps, if you have more questions lemme know . nate On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Damon Muller wrote: dm-deb Hi folks, and happy new year! dm-deb dm-deb We have seen people posting about the kernel error message of dm-deb Lost_Interupt (or something similar) reasonably regularly, and then dm-deb people usually post back saying 'your HD is about to die, replace it', dm-deb and everyone then goes back on with their lives. dm-deb dm-deb I too have had this error, and assumed that the HD was just going bad dm-deb (which was confirmed by doing a BIOS low-level format). No-one likes it dm-deb when a HD dies, but everything has a useful life-span. dm-deb dm-deb However, I recently installed debian onto a machine, where this error dm-deb again showed up, twice, on different drives (on oldish, one brand new, dm-deb both from different manifacturers). The larger, newer drive was the dm-deb first to go - the drive made weird noises, spouted the error lots of dm-deb times. When I got around to running a fsck on the drive, most of the dm-deb contents had ended up in lost+found, and I basically had to write the dm-deb installation off. dm-deb dm-deb I tried to convice the owner of said computer that it might have been a dm-deb faulty drive (there is an identical one running in a Mandrake 6.1 dm-deb machine which has had no problems). I then got the smaller, older drive dm-deb in the same machine, and reinstalled onto that (I have been using this dm-deb smaller drive as the root drive, with /home and /var on the larger, dm-deb newer drive). After a few hours of reinstalling everything (the machine dm-deb had not yet gone into production, so there was no backup), and dm-deb installing the latest kernel (2.2.13, 2.2.12 had been running when the dm-deb drive died), everything seems h?ppy. dm-deb dm-deb I get back from my new-years camping trip, and about an hour later I get dm-deb a call to say that the machine has died again, this time with the other dm-deb (older drive). Same symptoms - the owner turned off the computer when dm-deb the drive went nuts (those who had heard it know it's not a pretty sound dm-deb to hear from a delicate piece of electronics!), and although I have yet dm-deb to see it in person, I'm not going to surprised if this drive is cactus dm-deb as well (this time we have a backup). dm-deb dm-deb So, what do we have. Two drives - different sizes, different ages, dm-deb different manifacturers, one the primary master, the other the secondary dm-deb master. Two different kernels, both with CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=n (which dm-deb some have suggested might help), both with all the various IDE chipset dm-deb workarounds enabled. An extremely vanilla installation of debian 2.1 dm-deb (with all the latest official add-ons, and non of the non-offical ones). dm-deb We have an identical drive working flawlessly in both other linux and dm-deb windows NT machines. The same machine (with same drives) also ran with dm-deb no problems with an NT installation). In both cases, the problem dm-deb manifested after the machines had been running 24/7 for a few weeks (not dm-deb sure exacly how long, but at least 14 days). dm-deb dm-deb It is *possible* that both drives were faulty and about to die anyway, dm-deb but it looks very unlikely to me that they would both die in the same dm-deb machine in the same way. dm-deb dm-deb Unfortunately I don't have the make and model of the motherboard with dm-deb me, but it was running a Cyrix 266 chip in a fairly generic motherboard, dm-deb the same combination we run in other machines with no problems that I am dm-deb aware of. If I had to guess, I'd say that maybe the kernel didn't like dm-deb the IDE controller (don't know make/model again), but
Re: please help a newbie
On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, john smith wrote: inquir Hello inquir inquir 1. I just installed a compatible soundcard and I want to know how to make inquir debian recognise it. As far as i know there is no real easy way to do this, depending on the chipset the soundcard uses cd to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/sound and insert the module that your card uses. inquir 2. I just recently installed a new browser netscape 407 but when I try to inquir launch it in gnome nothing happens. I do not know whats wrong can somebody inquir please help? make sure you are not root, the debian netscape launcher will refuse to load netscape if you are root, or you could comment the lines of the script out. it would of been nice if they had used xmessage to show a message in X. if that doesnt work, launch an xterm and type 'netscape' and see what error(s) you get. inquir 3. is there a command to see all available packages that are available for inquir install/upgrade in the debian ftp server after apt-get update? im not an expert at dpkg/apt so i cant help here .. nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 11:11pm up 135 days, 11:07, 4 users, load average: 1.88, 1.76, 1.66
Re: How to make all build using --cpu=pentium?
Very little is gained by recompiling *everything* when optmized for pentium. Firstly the pentium optmization does not optimize for Pentium II or Pentium III or pentium pro or k6 or k6-2 or k6-3 or athlon. Also very few applications show a noticable performance boost when compiling with pentium optimizations on. things like GLX, Glide, maybe xanim might show noticable increases in performance, but generic apps, will not. basically its a waste of time to compile everything for pentium :) If you want real performance gains the best way would be to change compilers, to say, pgcc, although it would take some experimentation to determine what is optimal for speed/stability. nate On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, What name wrote: okey okey Are there any globle settings to set a 'make' using gcc with okey --cpu=pentium? I don't want to change every Makefile when I try to have my okey system optimized with pentium cpu. Maybe some setting for 'gcc' or okey 'make'? okey okey Thanks. okey okey okey -- okey Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null okey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 11:11pm up 135 days, 11:07, 4 users, load average: 1.88, 1.76, 1.66
Re: a couple of questions
Try launching it as non-root. I installed Netscape 4.07 from the tar format on RedHat and it wouldn't let me run Netscape as root. Its possible your encountering the same security issue. Supposedly, there is a way to allow root to run Netscape but I don't recall where that setting is made. Running Netscape Navigator v3.4 [from /usr/bin/X11/netscape] # # Don't allow running netscape as root # if [ $UID -eq 0 -o $EUID -eq 0 ]; then echo $0: Cannot be run an root (for security reasons) exit 1 fi -- hypnos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Same dates between Debian and Windows
Bart writes: I have Debian and Windows installed on the system and for the life of me I can't seem to be able to get their dates to match up. You probably told the install that your hardware clock was set to UTC (GMT) when you installed. Windows requires that it be set to local time. Edit /etc/default/rcS and change the UTC line. I think that in 2.1 it reads GMT=u for UTC and GMT= for local time. This should let you set the hardware clock to local time and keep Windows happy. This problem is especially annoying because of the time it consumes just with me rebooting between the two OSes to see if their dates are finally in sync. Windows doesn't have its own clock. It just uses the hardware clock. Under Linux the command 'hwclock' as root will show you the hardware clock, while 'date' will show you what time Linux thinks it is. Make sure that you have your time zone set properly. Use 'tzconfig' to set it. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: problems w/Recent Upgrade to October GNOME
* John == John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Depends: mc-common (= 4.5.40-2.slink.0), libc6, libglib1.2 (= 1.2.0), John slang1 ( 1.3), slang1 ( 1.2.2-0) John This has me really perplexed. I can find no reason why the mouse John is not working. It does not depend on libgpmg1. Whoever recompiled it (check the last entry in the changelog) did not have libgpmg1-dev installed. Also libextfs2 is missing (ext2 undelete). I don't have a slink system at hand to recompile it. I would mail this person and make him aware of it. Maybe he can recompile it with mouse support. It is not so much his fault. autoconf'ed apps will build fine, even if some features are not available. build-dependancies will solve this, but they are new, and I didn't have time to play with them so far. Ciao, artin
Re: alien not y2k compliant?
*- On 1 Jan, Robert L. Harris wrote about alien not y2k compliant? Ok... I'm trying to scan myself and build a nice little security tool. This is the first thing I've run into but still {0}:wally:/usr/src/Util-System/nmapalien -d nmap-2.3BETA12*rpm -- Examining nmap-2.3BETA12-1.i386.rpm -- Unpacking nmap-2.3BETA12-1.i386.rpm 1222 blocks -- Automatic package debianization alien: 822-date did not return a valid result. A quick look through the changelog for the versions between slink and potato didn't show and y2k fixes but I did find the following: alien (6.26) unstable; urgency=low * If 822-date fails, the error now suggests installing dpkg-dev. This is way up there in the alien faw(sic, faq) and I'm tired of answering it. Since you did not get a suggestion about dpkg-dev I assume you are using a version prior to 6.26. Just to make sure, do you have dpkg-dev installed? In slink dpkg-dev was only a Recommends dependency for alien, in potato it is a Depends dependency. Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
2 questions on apt-get
hi freaks, recently I´m using apt-get to install my potato. I think this way of distributing debian is a great step into future and perfectly combines the abilities of the internet and free software. Debian should go this way. Now to the questions. 1. After apt-get update/upgrade I always get the standard kernel-image and pcmcia-modules which overwrites my own compiled versions. How can I exclude this packages from being upgraded? 2.apt-get upgrade gives the following message: ... The following packages have been kept back: dpkg-dev kernel-package perl perl-base ... I wanna this packages be included in the normal upgrade-procedure. What is the appropriate action? I hope this questions are of common interest? uli
Re: 2 questions on apt-get
Ulrich Hansmair wrote: 1. After apt-get update/upgrade I always get the standard kernel-image and pcmcia-modules which overwrites my own compiled versions. How can I exclude this packages from being upgraded? Read the docs for kernel package and use --revision=... when building your own kernel. You have to ensure that your local kernel .deb is a later release than the standard one. 2.apt-get upgrade gives the following message: ... The following packages have been kept back: dpkg-dev kernel-package perl perl-base ... I wanna this packages be included in the normal upgrade-procedure. What is t he appropriate action? They are kept back because of dependencies on some other packages; these dependencies cannot be satisfied if they are upgraded. You must either remove packages that are causing the problem, or wait for new versions of the problem packages to become available, or (if you know what you are doing) force the installation of the packages you want upgraded. -- Vote against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; Matthew 5:43,44
Re: 2 questions on apt-get
*- On 2 Jan, Oliver Elphick wrote about Re: 2 questions on apt-get Ulrich Hansmair wrote: 2.apt-get upgrade gives the following message: ... The following packages have been kept back: dpkg-dev kernel-package perl perl-base ... I wanna this packages be included in the normal upgrade-procedure. What is t he appropriate action? They are kept back because of dependencies on some other packages; these dependencies cannot be satisfied if they are upgraded. You must either remove packages that are causing the problem, or wait for new versions of the problem packages to become available, or (if you know what you are doing) force the installation of the packages you want upgraded. Read the apt-get man page. You probably want to run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and not 'apt-get upgrade'. The upgrade option will not remove or change other packages status(i.e. packages will be held back). Or start dselect, select [U]pdate, select [S]elect, hit space, hit return(probably a few times as it sorts out depenencies/conflicts), select [I]nstall. Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: please help a newbie
On the sound card, it will be easier for someone to respond with helpful information if you repost with the make/model of your sound card. Someone else who has the same/similiar card will most likely respond with plenty of help. In general, the kernel has to be configured and compiled with sound support, and also with support of your specific card. The dselect program is the traditional way of displaying/installing/removing and generally managing the Debian packages on your system. It works together very well with apt-get. To see the listing of packages in dselect after running apt-get update: 1) run dselect as root 2) choose (A)ccess from the main menu and choose apt as the access method 3) run (U)pdate from the main menu 4) choose (S)elect from the main menu to display all installed and available packages By default, all installed packages that have upgrades available, will be displayed at the top of the list in dselect. You can use / to search for a particular package, and \ to repeat the same search. Dselect can be confusing at first, so be sure to look over the help screens (? brings up the help screen in Select mode). You can also find a tutorial on dselect here: http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/dselect-beginner.html I would definitely read that over first. Tom john smith wrote: Hello 1. I just installed a compatible soundcard and I want to know how to make debian recognise it. 2. I just recently installed a new browser netscape 407 but when I try to launch it in gnome nothing happens. I do not know whats wrong can somebody please help? 3. is there a command to see all available packages that are available for install/upgrade in the debian ftp server after apt-get update? thank you very much.
apt-get URLs proposal
The question about the URLs for apt-get seems to be a never ending one, especially if we consider that some times the person in charge of some specific package makes the update available through a specific URL through apt-get. So, it seems to me that we should put somewhere in the site instructions about this, with a list of all possible URL, and that, perhaps, if time allows, the specific update/upgrade URL for given packages.
Re: webmin alternative?
Robert Marlow (2) wrote: Linuxconf is available in potato with console (text) and X11 gui Sven So there's no web frontend for it available in debian as yet? what i'm really looking for is something to make remote user configuration simple and graphical for clients rather than teaching them how to telnet and aquire root (which i believe would cause no end of trouble). Something very limiting of the users' powers over the system would be great. better yet, allowing certain users the ability to add users without needing the root password and while using a user friendly GUI on their own workstation would be wonderful. from da Bobstopper -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I think the web access is also include but not as an extra module. But linuxconf on Debian is not as stable as on other systems and not all modules are working. Install it and read the readme for the not working modules. Sven
Re: LILO and Multiple Disks
I believe you need to use the map-drive option in the lilo.conf file to tell Lilo that you want to swap the drives when you boot Windows. I seldom do this myself, as it's more straight forward to just have Windows on the primary/master drive to begin with. Here's what I think the Win98 section of your /etc/lilo.conf file should look like to do what you want: #Win98 other=/dev/hdd1 label=Win98 table=/dev/hdd map-drive = 0x80 # Logically swap the drives so that when they to = 0x83 # are accessed via the BIOS, the second drive map-drive = 0x83 # will appear as the first and the first as to = 0x80 Since your Windows drive will still be /dev/hdd when you run the lilo installer, you want to leave the other= and the table= entries alone. However, when you boot with Lilo, it depends on the BIOS to identify the drives - so the map-drive lines will now make your Windows drive /dev/hda, and your Linux drive /dev/hdd based on the following: /dev/hda = 0x80 primary/master /dev/hdb = 0x81 primary/slave /dev/hdc = 0x82 secondary/master /dev/hdd = 0x83 secondary/slave Like I said, I seldom do this myself, but I think this is correct. If not, I'm sure someone else will chime in. The map-drive option is covered in the Lilo manual, which you can find at /usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz, or possibly /usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz if you're running potato. Tom S Law wrote: Hello, I am quite a new user to Linux and thus I was looking to install a dual-boot system. I have figured out this much so far... I have two hard disks. My Linux disk is on the primary master. It contains the following partitions: hda1, hda2, hda5. I also have a Windows 98 disk on the secondary slave. It contains the following partitions: [PTBL], hdd1. I am quite able to boot up Linux, so I'm pretty sure I've got that set up correctly. I can disable the primary master in my BIOS, which will then boot up my secondary slave drive and up pops a Windows 98 boot-up screen. However, what I cannot do is convince LILO that it should boot up Windows 98 when I configure it thus: --- BEGIN FILE lilo.conf --- verbose=5 compact boot=/dev/hda1 root=/dev/hda1 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 append=ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x320,eth1 #Linux image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only #Win98 other=/dev/hdd1 label=Win98 table=/dev/hdd #Floppy other=/dev/fd0 label=Floppy END FILE lilo.conf
icewm
Hi, I have been using gnome-session to run gnome and enlightenment. I wanted to try icewm-gnome. How can i switch to this jsut for one specific user and not make it global. I tried copying the Xsession file to my home directory and renaming it .Xsession but it seems to ignore this. I am using xdm. Thanks Rick -- Rick Knebel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: icewm
On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Rick Knebel wrote: Hi, I have been using gnome-session to run gnome and enlightenment. I wanted to try icewm-gnome. How can i switch to this jsut for one specific user and not make it global. I tried copying the Xsession file to my home directory and renaming it .Xsession but it seems to ignore this. Have you tried .xsession (with small 'x')? If that doesn't work, maybe it has to be executable. Lars Erik Lars Erik Koldenhttp://bug.fix.no +47 22 18 71 79 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +47 22 02 53 18
Re: CTRL-C Doesn't work??!! ....
On Fri, Dec 31, 1999 at 06:28:53PM +, Kevin Traas wrote: Greetings, snip Any ideas would be ***greatly*** appreciated. i.e. What manages Job Control in a Linux system? The kernel? The shell? Init? (I've rolled my own init, btw.) And, why might Job Control be disabled? TIA for your help/comments. Regards, Kevin Traas My understanding is that the job control is done by the shell. You can have multiple processes controlled from the same terminal, and the job control deals with deciding which of those processes has access to the terminal device, and tells you when the status of jobs under the control of the terminal changes. That's why when you have backgrounded a process and it tries to write to the terminal, the job controller tells you that the process is now stopped waiting for tty output, and won't restart until you give it the terminal by foregrounding it. Look in the bash man page for more details. Ctrl-C normally sends a SIGINT signal to the process running in the foreground. This normally terminates the process. I would think that either your terminal is not set up to map Ctrl-C onto SIGINT, or the program you are trying to interrupt is ignoring the SIGINT. - funkiest:~$ stty -a speed 38400 baud; rows 24; columns 80; line = 0; intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^H; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol = undef; eol2 = undef; start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W; lnext = ^V; flush = ^O; min = 0; time = 0; -parenb -parodd cs8 hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts -ignbrk brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl ixon -ixoff -iuclc ixany imaxbel opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0 ff0 isig icanon iexten echo echoe -echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop -echoprt echoctl echoke -- Note the second line contains intr = ^C, check your settings contain this. If not, I think stty intr ^C should add it. You can check if the program is ignoring SIGINTs by sending the signal manually with kill kill -SIGINT pid. HTH. -- Regards, Paul
Re: LILO and Multiple Disks
Those comment lines screwed things up a little in the posted message. Here's that section of lilo.conf the way I intended it to look: #Win98 other=/dev/hdd1 label=Win98 table=/dev/hdd map-drive = 0x80 to = 0x83 map-drive = 0x83 to = 0x80 Tom
Re: 2 questions on apt-get
hi freaks, Who's a freak?? 1. After apt-get update/upgrade I always get the standard kernel-image and pcmcia-modules which overwrites my own compiled versions. How can I exclude this packages from being upgraded? I would backup the compiled ones, then put a script into your shutdown sequence that replaces them with the backups. There's probably a better solution, but this is how I'd do it. 2.apt-get upgrade gives the following message: ... The following packages have been kept back: dpkg-dev kernel-package perl perl-base ... I wanna this packages be included in the normal upgrade-procedure. What is the appropriate action? Well, I'd answer, but considering I've just been called a freak here... =) Okay, ya got me, I really don't know this one. = Fish of Borg Visit me on the web! http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Frontier/4874/stccg.html ///Archaeologists near mount Sinai have discovered what appears to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read To my Darling Candy. All Characters portrayed within this book are fictitious and any resemblance to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental.///Red Dwarf __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com
Re: LILO and Multiple Disks
And one more time to make it a hat trick... I just noticed in your original post that /dev/hdd is identified as BIOS device 0x82, not 0x83 - Boot other: /dev/hdd1, on /dev/hdd, loader /boot/chain.b Caching device /dev/fd/6 (0x1641) Device 0x1641: BIOS drive 0x82, 64 heads, 525 cylinders, 63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors. Caching device /dev/hdd (0x1640) Device 0x1640: BIOS drive 0x82, 64 heads, 525 cylinders, 63 sectors. Partition offset: 0 sectors. - Meaning you probably will have to do this instead: #Win98 other=/dev/hdd1 label=Win98 table=/dev/hdd map-drive = 0x80 to = 0x82 map-drive = 0x82 to = 0x80 Tom
Re: Info sources for Programming
On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 07:56:41PM +, Colin Watson wrote: I don't know what clear_input() is, but yylex() is a lexical analysis function which should have been generated for that particular program by some derivative of the program 'lex', normally 'flex'. Install the flex package and see if that helps. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Colin, that was the missing link. It even cleared the clear_input error. -- Cliff
Re: 2 questions on apt-get
At 06:40 AM 1/2/00 -0800, Fish Smith wrote: hi freaks, Who's a freak?? 1. After apt-get update/upgrade I always get the standard kernel-image and pcmcia-modules which overwrites my own compiled versions. How can I exclude this packages from being upgraded? I would backup the compiled ones, then put a script into your shutdown sequence that replaces them with the backups. There's probably a better solution, but this is how I'd do it. Or...use dselect to mark the package hold - find the package using / and put it on hold with a = then simulate the dist-upgrade just to be sure apt-get -s dist-upgrade Ed
Re: permanently turning on gcc Pentium optimization
I accidently deleted the previous mails in the thread, so I'm hoping the original poster get's this ! To permanently turn on pentium optimizations, change your /usr/lib/gcc-lib/2.92.2/specs (or similar) from *cc1: %(cc1_cpu) %{profile:-p} *cc1: %(cc1_cpu) %{profile:-p} -march=i586 As others have pointed out, the gains may be limited with respect to the amount of work you do recompiling, but I'm of the opinion that even of you get a 1% gain then it (shouldn't) do any harm, so why not ? -- Regards, Paul
Wrong timestamp on modules.dep
My Hardware Clock is set to local time to keep another OS happy. /etc/rcS.d has S20modutils S50hwclock.sh (among others) so modules.dep is timestamped as though the Hardware Clock were set to GMT. I have kernel 2.2.13 and RTC stores time in GMT set to no under APM. Did I forget to set thip crinkle and spoit to no? :) TIA, John
Re: need XF86Config for ThinkPad 560
Hi, Attached is my latest config file for the dual scan 560. Note the comments with the JM. It will work as is without flicker, but FVWM2 will not work correctly. Feel free to switch to the other modeline to use fvwm but with flicker. Enjoy and post results, John Miskinis __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com XF86Config_latest Description: Binary data
Re: problems w/Recent Upgrade to October GNOME
Martin Bialasinski wrote: * John == John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Depends: mc-common (= 4.5.40-2.slink.0), libc6, libglib1.2 (= 1.2.0), John slang1 ( 1.3), slang1 ( 1.2.2-0) John This has me really perplexed. I can find no reason why the mouse John is not working. It does not depend on libgpmg1. Whoever recompiled it (check the last entry in the changelog) did not have libgpmg1-dev installed. Also libextfs2 is missing (ext2 undelete). I don't have a slink system at hand to recompile it. I would mail this person and make him aware of it. Maybe he can recompile it with mouse support. It is not so much his fault. autoconf'ed apps will build fine, even if some features are not available. build-dependancies will solve this, but they are new, and I didn't have time to play with them so far. Ciao, artin --- Since I have all of these installed-- then I can recompile mc from the source code and it should be OK--is that correct?? -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Re: icewm
Rick Knebel wrote: Hi, I have been using gnome-session to run gnome and enlightenment. I wanted to try icewm-gnome. How can i switch to this jsut for one specific user and not make it global. I tried copying the Xsession file to my home directory and renaming it .Xsession but it seems to ignore this. I am using xdm. Thanks Rick -- Rick Knebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null The easiest way would be to use the GNOME control center (gnomecc) to switch to another window-manager. This change will only affect the current user. Sven
Re: problems w/Recent Upgrade to October GNOME
* John == John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Since I have all of these installed-- then I can recompile mc John from the source code and it should be OK--is that correct?? Yes. If you can get hold of the Debian sources for this version, you can also recompile the package, instead of compiling the upstream source. When you have them dpkg-source -x mc*dsc will unpack them. Ciao, Martin
Re: Wrong timestamp on modules.dep
*- On 2 Jan, John Dalbec wrote about Wrong timestamp on modules.dep My Hardware Clock is set to local time to keep another OS happy. /etc/rcS.d has S20modutils S50hwclock.sh (among others) so modules.dep is timestamped as though the Hardware Clock were set to GMT. I have kernel 2.2.13 and RTC stores time in GMT set to no under APM. Did I forget to set thip crinkle and spoit to no? :) Nope, it is a bug in the Debian package setup. If you wait to reboot longer than your GMT offset then you won't get the warning, =). See the bug report at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/53/53247.html. Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Y2K problem with slrn?
Here is my $HOME/.jnewsrc.time: NEWGROUPS 1000102 173956 GMT Looks like there's a 100 where a 2000 ought to be. Cheers, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Re: need XF86Config for ThinkPad 560
On 02-Jan-2000 John Miskinis wrote: Hi, Attached is my latest config file for the dual scan 560. Note the comments with the JM. It will work as is without flicker, but FVWM2 will not work correctly. Feel free to switch to the other modeline to use fvwm but with flicker. Enjoy and post results, Thanks for sending my the config. It worked after I went into XF86Config and set the default color depth to 8 bpp. I am getting a small amount of flicker, but I don't know how to fix that. I had not seen any flicker before I reinstalled Linux on this machine. I will make sure I copy the config to a disk this time :) -- Andrew
Segmentation Fault
I have the slink version of debian installed an a second hard drive and it was working quite well. At the start of December I recompiled the kernel as I had added a SCSI device to my system and as the kernel was compiling I got an error Segmentation Fault. These messages are becoming increasingly more common. Last night I was looking at going to potato but apt-get update kept breaking and saying Segmentation Fault. This is making my Linux experience miserable. I have been reading everything I have but can not determine if this is a Software or Hardware problem. Any one else ever had this.
Lilo
Does anyone have any idea why Matt Welsh in his book Running Linux suggests not putting Lilo on the master partition of the boot disk?
Re: CTRL-C Doesn't work??!! ....
From: Kevin Traas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I've got a system here that I've been building from scratch - just to ***learn*** how Debian / Linux works from the ground up (right from building my own boot disk - initrd, etc.). I've got everything working great; however Hitting CTRL-C does not kill a running process. The only clue I've got is that, sometimes, I get a message Job Control Disabled when starting a shell. Seeing as CTRL-C is a form of job control, I'm thinking this might be related. I'm using BASH as the shell. I'd suspect that your shell isn't configured or installed quite right. The fact that you get the Job Control Disabled message seems to indicate that control-C and the signal Oliver mentions are working fine, but bash doesn't think it can do anything. Daniel -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hmm. A little worrisome: http://www.junkbusters.com/cgi-bin/privacy http://www.anonymizer.com/snoop.cgi )
Re: local mirror of potato?
From: Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... mirror sucks for any number of reasons. 1) It's slow. 2) It beats the hell out of the client. 3) It beats the hell out of the server. 4) It doesn't always do the right thing (it makes mistakes). What kind of errors are you talking about? -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hmm. A little worrisome: http://www.junkbusters.com/cgi-bin/privacy http://www.anonymizer.com/snoop.cgi )
Quake is choppy (potato)
Quake is suddenly choppy on my potato system. I had this problem a long time ago, then it went away, and now it came back. Note that it happens: - In both QuakeWorld and Normal Quake (both X11 and svgalib versions) - Even with the -nosound option. - Intermittently - Test map: Team Fortress: 2fort5r.bsp Anyone else with the same problem or advice on fixing it? -- If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Advertising Policy: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/spamoff.html GnuPG Public Key: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/gpgkey.asc Fingerprint: 0535 F7CF FF5F 8547 E5A5 695E 4456 FB6C BC39 A4B0 pgpOwLmCCzxP2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: permanently turning on gcc Pentium optimization
On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 03:45:30AM +, Paul J. Keenan wrote: I accidently deleted the previous mails in the thread, so I'm hoping the original poster get's this ! To permanently turn on pentium optimizations, change your /usr/lib/gcc-lib/2.92.2/specs (or similar) from *cc1: %(cc1_cpu) %{profile:-p} *cc1: %(cc1_cpu) %{profile:-p} -march=i586 As others have pointed out, the gains may be limited with respect to the amount of work you do recompiling, but I'm of the opinion that even of you get a 1% gain then it (shouldn't) do any harm, so why not ? Well don't do it if you're a package maintainer. On many CPUs the optimisations actually slow things down, and nobody wants that. Sorry, though, I don't know the answer to your question. -- If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Advertising Policy: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/spamoff.html GnuPG Public Key: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/gpgkey.asc Fingerprint: 0535 F7CF FF5F 8547 E5A5 695E 4456 FB6C BC39 A4B0 pgp5Rmg3YcIZV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Segmentation Fault
*- On 2 Jan, Rik Burt wrote about Segmentation Fault I have the slink version of debian installed an a second hard drive and it was working quite well. At the start of December I recompiled the kernel as I had added a SCSI device to my system and as the kernel was compiling I got an error Segmentation Fault. These messages are becoming increasingly more common. Last night I was looking at going to potato but apt-get update kept breaking and saying Segmentation Fault. This is making my Linux experience miserable. I have been reading everything I have but can not determine if this is a Software or Hardware problem. Any one else ever had this. Sounds like a hardware problem, most likely bad memory. Take a look at the Sig11 page and see if the info on there helps you find the problem. http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: Dialout group
On Fri, Dec 31, 1999 at 07:59:10PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Dwayne C . Litzenberger writes: Personally, I use sudo for pon. That way, I can not only control who can control my PPP interface, but I can control what they can do with them. (ie. cli parameters) Do you know that many pppd options cannot be given on the command line by non-root users? Exactly. sudo allows you to specify what commands can be run, along with the arguments they are allowed to give those commands. So there's no security loss here, just a gain in flexibility. -- If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Advertising Policy: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/spamoff.html GnuPG Public Key: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/gpgkey.asc Fingerprint: 0535 F7CF FF5F 8547 E5A5 695E 4456 FB6C BC39 A4B0 pgpSQa2uR7WOS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Kermit works in DOS with exact same settings but not Debian.
I need to connect to an HP49G calculator. X-Face: $DD[\LKdxF)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:I8![LO*X#'|ctq-w]1aoQD8x1:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher R. Barry) Date: 02 Jan 2000 11:08:15 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lines: 44 I think I need help from a serial port guru. I am using ckermit to transfer files between my PC and a HP49G calculator. Under MSDOS, everything works fine. Here are my DOS kermit settings: SET MODEM TYPE DIRECT SET PORT COM1 SET SPEED 9600 SET CARRIER-WATCH OFF SET FLOW NONE SET PARITY NONE SET BLOCK 3 I can then just put the calculator in server mode and from my PC do SEND file and it transfers right over. Under Linux I do the exact same thing except I specify /dev/ttyS0 instead of COM1 for the first serial port. When I try to transfer a file it goes to the transfer screen and the errors counter just slowly accumulates. The HP calc indicates that there is serial activity; they just don't get the connection right I guess. Again, this all works perfectly under DOS. My /etc/serial.conf looks like: ###AUTOSAVE### /dev/ttyS0 uart 16550A port 0x03f8 irq 4 baud_base 9600 spd_normal skip_test /dev/ttyS1 uart 16550A port 0x02f8 irq 3 spd_normal skip_test Is there some magic I can work with stty and setserial to get ttyS0 as close to the way it is under DOS as possible, or do any of you serial gurus have any connection debug tips or know anything I could try? Thanks very much in advance for any help; I worked on this all day yesterday and all this morning and haven't made progress and am very frustrated Christopher
Re: need XF86Config for ThinkPad 560
Hi, Thanks for sending my the config. It worked after I went into XF86Config and set the default color depth to 8 bpp. I am getting a small amount of flicker, but I don't know how to fix that. I had not seen any flicker before I reinstalled Linux on this machine. I will make sure I copy the config to a disk this time :) I forget which 560 hardware configuration you have. I have the P100 dual scan and the trident 9832 chipset. I thought that config file had 8bpp as the default. I'm surprised that it did not work as is. I recently sent this to someone else, and it worked for their machine, which must have been the same as mine. If you come up with a better modeline or entire file, please let me know. With the modeline I had in that file, the screen is dimmer than it should be, but I get no flicker. With the other modeline the screen is bright, even fvwm2 works, but I get flicker. Again I am not sure if we have the same hardware configuration though. I can't risk damaging my HW by further experimental tweaking. I run with the file I sent you, and run wmaker and enlightenment with no problems. It's just fvwm2 that starts leaving pixels and blocks behind after a few window drags. Never figured out why. John Miskinis __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Kermit works in DOS with exact same settings but not Debian.
Did you try playing with the character size setting ? cs7 and cs8 are the most typical. You can change this with stty. -- Regards, Paul
Re: Lilo
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 11:07:36AM -0700, Rik Burt wrote: Does anyone have any idea why Matt Welsh in his book Running Linux suggests not putting Lilo on the master partition of the boot disk? Note that I don't really know. I think it's because everything (Win* [setup|?fdisk?], and some other things) overwrite the master boot record, thus making you need a boot floppy to boot back to reinstall lilo. I'm not sure, but my experience has been that the master boot record gets overwritten a lot. -- If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Advertising Policy: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/spamoff.html GnuPG Public Key: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/gpgkey.asc Fingerprint: 0535 F7CF FF5F 8547 E5A5 695E 4456 FB6C BC39 A4B0 pgpfD38thMar1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: LILO and Multiple Disks
I am quite a new user to Linux and thus I was looking to install a dual-boot system. I have figured out this much so far... I have two hard disks. My Linux disk is on the primary master. It contains the following partitions: hda1, hda2, hda5. I also have a Windows 98 disk on the secondary slave. It contains the following partitions: [PTBL], hdd1. I am quite able to boot up Linux, so I'm pretty sure I've got that set up correctly. I can disable the primary master in my BIOS, which will then boot up my secondary slave drive and up pops a Windows 98 boot-up screen. However, what I cannot do is convince LILO that it should boot up Windows 98 when I configure it thus: it's win98 that doesn't want to boot, i think because it _has_ to be on the first harddrive... i have a similar setuop and had problems too, what you have to do is re-map the win HD so windows thinks it's on the primary master. modify /etc/lilo.conf as follows: #Win98 other=/dev/hdd1 label=Win98 map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 table=/dev/hdd that should solve the problem alberto
High samplerate soundcard
Does anyone know of a good sound card that does sample rates higher than 48kHz (like 128kHz), and possibly more that 16-bit sound? -- If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Advertising Policy: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/spamoff.html GnuPG Public Key: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/gpgkey.asc Fingerprint: 0535 F7CF FF5F 8547 E5A5 695E 4456 FB6C BC39 A4B0 pgprbDIjUWtJW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Where is the mixer module?
Running Slink with a 2.2.13 kernel. Compiled in sound for my SB64AWE ISA card as follows: Soundcard support Y OSS Sound Modules M 100% SB compatible support M I don't want any midi support, only sound from CD, line-in etc. When I insmod all the modules (sound, uart401 and sb with proper settings) the card produces sound quite nicely, but as there is no mixer module the volume control doesn't work. cat /dev/sndstat however has the following entry Mixers: 1: Sound Blaster So, what do I do next? All the other entries begin with a 0 (zero), so it seems the mixer entry is out of order. Who can shine a light on this? TIA -- Hans
Re: xawtv says it's my fault.
On Fri, Dec 31, 1999 at 12:25:18AM +0100, Hans wrote: I bought a Miro Studio PCTV Pro card and try to get this working with a fresh Slink running a 2.2.10 kernel. I compiled V4L into the kernel and at boot up it recognizes the BT8xx card. So far so good. From the Slink CD I got xawtv, but when I run this the following happens. this is xawtv-2.19 sh: v4l-conf: command not found v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway DGA: server=1.0, include=1.0 VidMode: server=0.8, include=0.8 available video mode(s): 1024x768 The app-defaults file is not correctly installed. Your fault (core dumped) [snip] I think someone (the author) tried to be funny by changing the Segmentation fault (core dumped) to Your fault (core dumped), though it's just a guess. -- If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Advertising Policy: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/spamoff.html GnuPG Public Key: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/gpgkey.asc Fingerprint: 0535 F7CF FF5F 8547 E5A5 695E 4456 FB6C BC39 A4B0 pgpo9Ov8B6pW5.pgp Description: PGP signature
apt cache
heya i've downloaded a few hundred potato debs while upgrading my workstation to potato. now i'm starting to think it would be conveniant to organise all the debs that apt has downloaded by placing them in directories corresponding to each deb's section (just like the download site would have them). is there any dpkg command or anything which would allow me to move each deb to the correct folder automatically? also, for future maintenance, how can i configure apt to place the debs in the correct directory to begin with? basically, what i aim to have is a small subset of the potato distribution sorted so as to be a site to which other hosts on my LAN can point apt. from da Bobstopper
Re: su and chsh never work
On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 07:33:42PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: On 30/12/99 matt garman wrote: Would it be a bad idea to just do a tar xzvpf base2_2.tgz from my root directory? I assume all the files will be put in the correct places, but will this throw off or otherwise interfere with dpkg's accounting in anyway? I really don't know, I am not familiar enough with what dbootstrap does behind the scenes of installation to know what will get broken and how badly by doing this. i am sure there will be at least some breakage in the form of creating a unconfigured base... does dpkg have a --set-perms option like RPM to set all permissions in a package to what they should be? that would be perfect for this situation... Try the attached script. -- If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Advertising Policy: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/spamoff.html GnuPG Public Key: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/gpgkey.asc Fingerprint: 0535 F7CF FF5F 8547 E5A5 695E 4456 FB6C BC39 A4B0 #!/bin/sh # Usage: tgz-perms.sh filename.tar.gz octal_value() { oo= if echo $1 | cut -b 1 | grep l /dev/null ; then exit 1; fi for e in `echo $1 | cut -b 2-4` `echo $1 | cut -b 5-7` `echo $1 | cut -b 8-10` do oo=${oo}`oct $e` done echo $oo } oct() { case $1 in rwx) o=7;; rw-) o=6;; r--) o=4;; r-x) o=5;; rws) o=47;; r-s) o=45;; ---) o=0;; *) o=-1;; esac echo $o } for file in $@ ; do \ for e in `tar tvzf $file | cut -c1-10,48,52-` ; do \ p=`echo $e | cut -c1-10` f=`echo $e | cut -c12-` if o=`octal_value $p` ; then \ echo chmod $o $f chmod $o $f fi done done pgpGxm9ZyvijD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt cache
On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 05:06:00AM +0800, Robert Marlow wrote: heya i've downloaded a few hundred potato debs while upgrading my workstation to potato. now i'm starting to think it would be conveniant to organise all the debs that apt has downloaded by placing them in directories corresponding to each deb's section (just like the download site would have them). is there any dpkg command or anything which would allow me to move each deb to the correct folder automatically? also, for future maintenance, how can i configure apt to place the debs in the correct directory to begin with? basically, what i aim to have is a small subset of the potato distribution sorted so as to be a site to which other hosts on my LAN can point apt. from da Bobstopper apt-get -y install apt-move -- If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Advertising Policy: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/spamoff.html GnuPG Public Key: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/gpgkey.asc Fingerprint: 0535 F7CF FF5F 8547 E5A5 695E 4456 FB6C BC39 A4B0 pgpWE6X02r15o.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt cache
Robert Marlow (2) wrote: heya i've downloaded a few hundred potato debs while upgrading my workstation to potato. now i'm starting to think it would be conveniant to organise all the debs that apt has downloaded by placing them in directories corresponding to each deb's section (just like the download site would have them). is there any dpkg command or anything which would allow me to move each deb to the correct folder automatically? also, for future maintenance, how can i configure apt to place the debs in the correct directory to begin with? basically, what i aim to have is a small subset of the potato distribution sorted so as to be a site to which other hosts on my LAN can point apt. from da Bobstopper -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Have a look at apt-move. 'apt-move localupdate' will put the packages in the directories you need to burn on CD or to share with other machines. Sven
alt key in jed under X
Hello: I use jed with emacs keybindings as my editor. Often, I need to use the Alt key, but it doesn't take when I'm in X. I know I can use the Esc key to get the same functionality, but I'd rather not (then I might as well use vi if I have to reach for the Esc key all the time :). The Alt key works as expected on the console. Thanks, MG -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] And through the window in the wall Come streaming in on sunlight wings A million bright ambassadors of morning. --Pink Floyd, Echoes
/bin/sh and ash, bash
I noticed that Debian makes /bin/sh a symlink to /bin/bash by default. I'd rather have /bin/sh link to /bin/ash. I tried this quite a while ago, and it seems as though some Debian-specific scripts rely on /bin/sh actually being bash. In other words, last time I linked /bin/sh to /bin/ash, a few things got broken. I was just curious if anyone knew whether or not it's safe to link /bin/sh to /bin/ash? Thanks, Matt -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] And through the window in the wall Come streaming in on sunlight wings A million bright ambassadors of morning. --Pink Floyd, Echoes
Re: Lilo
Rik Burt wrote: Does anyone have any idea why Matt Welsh in his book Running Linux suggests not putting Lilo on the master partition of the boot disk? A brief look at my German translation of the book this is not the case. He talks about not putting in the MBR in certain situations but not in any case. - Konrad Mierendorff
Re: DPMS problem
On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 12:16:15AM -0500, John Dalbec wrote: OK, the problem didn't go away. What happens is this: When I first log in to X, starting xhexagons and clicking on it blanks the screen. If I start Netscape (R)(TM)(C) first (apologies to RMS) (my homepage is www.debian.org) and then start xhexagons while Netscape is running, xhexagons complains: Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for Gray clicking on it doesn't blank the screen. This is effective until I log out of X. I can close Netscape, close and restart xhexagons, and the problem doesn't recur. I just tried Option xaa_no_color_exp and that didn't help. Any ideas? TIA, John Dalbec I'll assume you are running an 8bpp X server. Basically, you have a fixed colour palette of 256 colours. Every program that does not use a private colourmap instead allocates a chunk of the system palette. Netscape will take as much as it needs, but if it can't get that it will settle for less. xhexagons takes all it needs and fails if it can't get it. What you can do (what I used to do before I got a 16bpp server working) is run netscape -install. This will make Netscape allocate a private colourmap. The flicker when you move back and forth between windows is annoying, but you get used to it after a while. (It's a lot more tolerable if you can set your window manager to only set the colourmap that has the input focus (which you, of course, have set to click to focus) - look under the Window Focus Settings in wmakerconf for WindowMaker). deep breath There. I said (sic) it. -- If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Advertising Policy: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/spamoff.html GnuPG Public Key: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/gpgkey.asc Fingerprint: 0535 F7CF FF5F 8547 E5A5 695E 4456 FB6C BC39 A4B0 pgpJSf5AntwCm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /bin/sh and ash, bash
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 03:34:51PM -0600, matt garman wrote: I noticed that Debian makes /bin/sh a symlink to /bin/bash by default. I'd rather have /bin/sh link to /bin/ash. I tried this quite a while ago, and it seems as though some Debian-specific scripts rely on /bin/sh actually being bash. In other words, last time I linked /bin/sh to /bin/ash, a few things got broken. I was just curious if anyone knew whether or not it's safe to link /bin/sh to /bin/ash? That is the goal. If anything breaks when using a posix compliant shell for /bin/sh, then a bug should be filed for the package woning them to the affect that it needs to have #!/bin/bash for the interpreter. -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Setting windows Computer Names via DHCP
Is it possible to have windows Computer Names set on the fly via DHCP (or samba)? I'm working on a whole bunch of cloned workstations, and the only thing left that is causing problems is that I have to come up with unique names for each box. I'm setting this up for someone else, with a boot disk to wipe the hard drive and reinstall off the network from scratch, and it would be great if it required no user intervention. Can this be done via DHCP, or a .[ini|reg] file from /dev/urandom so I can get this right? -- If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Advertising Policy: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/spamoff.html GnuPG Public Key: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/gpgkey.asc Fingerprint: 0535 F7CF FF5F 8547 E5A5 695E 4456 FB6C BC39 A4B0 pgpl3dBe8aoa2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Problem with my keyboard
Hi, I have a problem with my keyboard, it's a belgian keyboard, and there's two choices. It tested both, but without any results to have the following symbol : ` It's not a quote, it's a ??? But even it isn't a very used symbol, I use it with the following command gcc xxx -o xxx `gtk-config --cflags --libs` Under X Window, there's no problems, but under the console mode, I can use this symbol. Is there another map for the belgian keyboard ? Regards, Manu
Re: Y2K problem with slrn?
Pann McCuaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is my $HOME/.jnewsrc.time: NEWGROUPS 1000102 173956 GMT Looks like there's a 100 where a 2000 ought to be. See: http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=53811 I imagine there'll be a new release of slrn out soon that solves this problem. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /bin/sh and ash, bash
*- On 2 Jan, Ben Collins wrote about Re: /bin/sh and ash, bash On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 03:34:51PM -0600, matt garman wrote: I noticed that Debian makes /bin/sh a symlink to /bin/bash by default. I'd rather have /bin/sh link to /bin/ash. I tried this quite a while ago, and it seems as though some Debian-specific scripts rely on /bin/sh actually being bash. In other words, last time I linked /bin/sh to /bin/ash, a few things got broken. I was just curious if anyone knew whether or not it's safe to link /bin/sh to /bin/ash? That is the goal. If anything breaks when using a posix compliant shell for /bin/sh, then a bug should be filed for the package woning them to the affect that it needs to have #!/bin/bash for the interpreter. Except that the bash package now has the /bin/sh symlink in the package and not as part of the postinst script. So if you change the link then the next time you upgrade bash it will reset the /bin/sh link back to bash. But there is a solution to in the /usr/{share/}doc/bash/README.Debian file for bash. A kind of FAQ for bash on Debian/GNU\ {Linux,Hurd} -- 1. How can I make /bin/sh point to something else? Type dpkg-divert --add /bin/sh and then point it to whatever you want. Upgrades to bash won't upgrade the /bin/sh symlink. To put /bin/sh under dpkg control again, type dpkg-divert --remove /bin/sh HTH, Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
.emacs file please
Hi all, I'm just coming to grips with emacs and discovered that most people have a .emacs file with default settings that they can use. Could someone send me this default file please? Thanks. Patrick