Tarjetas graficas y de TV

2000-02-11 Thread Alfredo Casademunt
Hola a todos.

Estoy pensando en comprar una tarjeta gráfica AGP y una
sintonizadora de TV y claro, tienen que ir de pila master con el Linux

Tarjeta gráfica he pensado en una 3Dfx voodoo3 3000 AGP que
tiene salida de TV, descompresión por hardware de MPEG-2 y
esta soportada por Xfree desde la versión 3.3.4
¿ alguien la esta usando ?
¿ que tal va ?
¿ me recomendáis alguna otra (que tenga salida de TV) por un precio parecido ?

Sintonizadora de vídeo todavía no lo tengo claro, el PC Actual
ponía bien la TerratecTValue
Las mismas preguntas que antes :-)+
¿ que tal funcionara con un K6-2 500MHz ?

Un saludo.

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Ha nacido ORCA (voten por su eslogan favorito)

2000-02-11 Thread Jaime E. Villate
Tal como prometí, he creado una página para votar por el eslogan
que crean que mejor substituye a Powered by
Me demoré una semana mas de lo que esperaba porque decidí ampliar el
proyecto y incluir un glosario inglés-castellano que irá creciendo
con los resultados de las votaciones.

Y porque otro glosario si ya existen algunos y existe un programa con
un diccionario (i2e)? Pues siempre que he intentado traducir algo
me he encontrado con el problema de que no está algún término. Seria
bueno poder entrar en un URL, escribir la traducción que falta, y
que qualquier persona la pueda usar incluso a través de la consola,
usando el protocolo dict. Pues eso es lo que he hecho.

Antes de divulgar este proyecto en barrapunto, bulma, debianl10n, etc,
me gustaria que lo ensayeis y me deis vuestra opinión (comentarios,
críticas, sugerencias, ofertas de ayuda, etc).

Está disponible en:  http://quark.fe.up.pt/orca

(y ya se puede votar y ver los resultados).

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Re: ADSL TeleLine 1 - Linux 0

2000-02-11 Thread Manel Marin
Hola botto,

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 01:50:21PM +0100, botto wrote:
 
 Yo lo tengo contratado con telefonica-data, me han dado en alquiler un
 modem externo y se configura todo con dhcp. No he tenido mas problemas.
 

Me han dicho en MegaVia ADSL (902 230 240) que ellos no contratan a
 particulares ni a empresas, solo a ISP

¿Con que proveedor lo has hecho tu?


 Sabes mas sitios donde vendan otros?

Pues me he pasado el dia llamando a Alcatel BCN, Alcatel Madrid, (solo venden
 centrales telefonicas), al grupo de Alcatel que se dedica a esos modem y al
 final me han dado dos palmaditas a la espalda y ale chaval vete con mama...
 
 Alcatel lo suministra exclusivamente a Telefonica y a BT y he llamado a
 ambos y solo lo dan en alquiler...

 Y hombre comprarlo por catalogo tiene el inconveniente de que si sestropea
 no le llegas con el garrote al proveedor (y esto es básico para un buen
 servicio ;-) y que conste que aun no he visto modems ADSL en catalogos...


Estoy convencido que ADSL será un exitazo y de aqui a un año te regalaran los
 modem como los moviles. Fale me pasao pero al menos cuando ADSL sea más
 popular se podrán encontrar en las tiendas de informática, que ahora no...


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Re: ADSL TeleLine 1 - Linux 0

2000-02-11 Thread Manel Marin
Hola Antonio,

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 11:10:36AM +0100, Antonio Castro wrote:
 
 Son las dos caras de telef?nica frente a Linux. Una para hacerse la
 foto en los foros adecuados y otra para los usuarios de sus servicios.
 
 Creo que los Linuxeros somos p?simos negociantes. No defendemos nuestros
 derechos de forma coordinada y nos dan por todas partes. En el momento de
 organizar un foro nos compran con cuatro duros para que pongamos un Logo
 bien gordo y despu?s nos siguen dando por el mismo sitio durante todo el 
 a?o. Bastar?a cerrarles el paso una sola vez para que nos consideraraan
 un poquito m?s. 
 
 Perdonar el tono pero es que estas discriminaciones me ponen enfermo.

Hombre tiene final feliz y acaba perdiendo el malo asi que felices y
 contentos ;-)

Lo que si me ha sorprendido el buen trabajo de telefonica-data comparado con el
 pésimo trato de TeleLine, el tutorial online del que hablé en otro correo
 está cantidad de bien...


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Re: ADSL TeleLine 1 - Linux 0

2000-02-11 Thread botto
 On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 01:50:21PM +0100, botto wrote:
  
  Yo lo tengo contratado con telefonica-data, me han dado en alquiler un
  modem externo y se configura todo con dhcp. No he tenido mas problemas.
  
 
 Me han dicho en MegaVia ADSL (902 230 240) que ellos no contratan a
  particulares ni a empresas, solo a ISP
 
 ¿Con que proveedor lo has hecho tu?
 
Infonegocio www.infonegocio.com
 
  Sabes mas sitios donde vendan otros?
 
 Pues me he pasado el dia llamando a Alcatel BCN, Alcatel Madrid, (solo venden
  centrales telefonicas), al grupo de Alcatel que se dedica a esos modem y al
  final me han dado dos palmaditas a la espalda y ale chaval vete con mama...
  
  Alcatel lo suministra exclusivamente a Telefonica y a BT y he llamado a
  ambos y solo lo dan en alquiler...

Ya tuve yo el placer de darles la paliza y nada, me contaron lo mismo.
Un tecnico me conto que habia una empresa que estaba importando unos para
venderlos a 5.000 ptas ¿Sera verdad?
 
  Y hombre comprarlo por catalogo tiene el inconveniente de que si sestropea
  no le llegas con el garrote al proveedor (y esto es básico para un buen
  servicio ;-) y que conste que aun no he visto modems ADSL en catalogos...
 
 
 Estoy convencido que ADSL será un exitazo y de aqui a un año te regalaran los
  modem como los moviles. Fale me pasao pero al menos cuando ADSL sea más
  popular se podrán encontrar en las tiendas de informática, que ahora no...
 
 
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Re: Impresiones desde Mutt

2000-02-11 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola..

Ya he visto lo que es, si tenia el papel configurado como a4, pero para mi
impresora, una deskjet, a2ps contiene una definicion diferente para DIN A4,
que se llama a4dj, por motivos de area de impresion en este tipo de
impresoras.

Saludos. 

On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 05:05:17PM +0100, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
 
 
   Es probable que tengas el papel configurado como Letter en lugar de
 A4, aunque creo que a2ps te pregunta en la instalación (quizás te
 equivocaste)... 
   Para configurar a2ps lo que tienes que hacer es 'info a2ps' (para
 enterarte cómo) y luego editar el fichero /etc/a2ps-site.cfg y mirar el
 /etc/a2ps.cfg (donde están definidos los tipos de papel)
 
   Saludo
 
   Javi
 On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 09:30:15PM +0100, Angel Vicente Perez wrote:
  Hola a todos
  
  Llevo ya tiempo usando Mutt, pero nunca habia hecho ninguna impresion, y
  estoy probando a imprimir adjuntos. Estos parece que son procesados por
  a2ps, y quedan muy majos, en apaisado y en dos caras por hoja y tal, pero al
  final de la hoja siempre me corta un poquito, estoy buscando donde se
  configura la longitud de pagina para este tipo de impresion, pero no doy con
  ello.
  
  ¿Sabe alguien?
  
  Saludos.
  
  
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problema con squid

2000-02-11 Thread José Illescas Pérez
Hola amigos,

me ha surgido recientemente un problema muy delicado con squid. Algunas
veces al intentar entrar en una URL desde el navegador, el Squid me
devuelve el siguiente mensaje:

No buffer space available.

Tengo instalada la versión 2.3.STABLE1.
¿A que puede ser debido?

Un saludo.
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Re: resucitando un viejo 486 con debian

2000-02-11 Thread Andres Herrera
Guenas

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 08:52:02AM +0100, Cosme P. Cuevas wrote:
¡El modo Visual de Vim!

Te  pones  al principio  del  bloque  en modo  comando. Pulsas
`v'  y aparece  -- VISUAL  -- abajo. Entonces  seleccionas con
las  teclas de  cursor  y con  `y'  lo copias,  o  con `d'  lo
cortas. Luego con `p' lo tienes a tu disposición.

Hoy lo he estado usando intensivamente en el curro, y es el colmo de la
comodidad. Solo me falta que hubiese un buen navegador svgalib para mandar las
X a freir esparragos (el gvim no me termina de cuadrar; prefiero el vim en
modo consola).

Pero esto  es Vim, así  que la  selección, una vez  entrado en
modo  Visual,  puede ser  desde  el  cursor hasta  la  primera
coincidencia de un patrón  (sencillamente pulsas `/') o número
de línea.

Ooops!!! Esto hay que probarlo bien. Me viene de perlas :-)

Y  además el  ratón también  te sirve  para algunas  cosas. Yo
puedo seleccionar un  bloque y con `Shift+Insert'  (o el botón
del ratón que toque) se copia desde la posición del cursor.

Shift+Insert??? El raton es lo que yo usaba, pero me produce alergia ;-)

  Humm, bueno, con los ftps  se desmanda un pelín (no sé
 qué hace, pero tarda un montón :-?).

Yo  uso  Lftp,  que  puede   bajarse  un  fichero  con  varias
conexiones simultáneas,

pget -n 5 pepote.b2z

Otra que me apunto.

Muchas gracias, y Saludines :-)
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Re: Necesito consejo para quitar disco duro y dejar todo igual

2000-02-11 Thread Antonio Castro
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hola
 
 En mi equipo tengo dos discos duros, /dev/hda con 6 GB. y /dev/hdb con 4
 GB. el caso es que tengo instalado la partición Linux en el /dev/hdb y
 dentro de poco me ocmpro un nuevo equipo sin disco duro y quiero ponerle el
 de 6 GB. el caso es que en el de 6 GB /dev/hda está el mbr con el lilo que
 arranca mi partición Linux en /dev/hdb y cuando quite el disco de 6 gb. el
 segundo disco de 4 gb. pasará a ser /dev/hda y no tener ni lilo ni leches.
 La cuestión es... no quiero perder Linux, pero ando un pelín confundido
 para saber como he de arreglármelas para montar aunque sea un disco de
 arranque que vaya a /dev/hda1 a arrancar el linux cuando ni siquiera lo
 tengo así ahora. :P
 
 Bueno el que me entienda y sepa como ayudarme por favor que me responda, mi
 K7 600 el muy bonito espera un transplante de disco duro urgentemente :P

Hazte un disquete con loadlin o un disco de rescate para arrancar.
Una vez que arranques Linux puedes volver a instalar el LILO.
Repasas el fichero /etc/lilo.conf para la nueva situación, tecleas
lilo y ya está. 

Saludos 

Antonio

 Un saludo
 
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Re: Sincronizacion de fecha y hora

2000-02-11 Thread Conrado Badenas
Andres Seco Hernandez wrote:
 En netstd vienen tanto rdate como netdate, y ambos usan la RFC868 para
 sincronizar la hora. ¿Hacen los dos lo mismo? Yo uso rdate y no me da
 problemas. La página man de rdate es mucho más escueta que la de netdate,
 pero ¿en qué se diferencian?

Pues no lo sé, pero he estado investigando, y he llegado a una serie de
conclusiones:

1a) Con netdate siempre acabas cambiando la fecha y hora de tu sistema.
1b) rdate tiene la opción -p con la que no cambias nada.

2a) netdate tiene cierta inteligencia para averiguar cuál es el mejor de
los hosts a los que accede para preguntar la hora, y cuando lo ha
averiguado sólo usa la hora de ese host.
2b) rdate sólo te deja preguntarle la hora a un host.

3a) El protocolo RFC868 sólo devuelve 32 bits (tiempo en segundos), pero
netdate puede aceptar otros 32 bits extra (microsegundos con exactitud
al nivel de milisegundo).
3b) La página man de rdate no dice nada de esto, por lo que es posible
que se ajuste al protocolo estrictamente.

4a) netdate te pone la hora que encuentra tal cual.
4b) rdate, con su opción -a, usa la llamada al sistema adjtimex(2) para
ir cambiando gradualmente la hora, lo cual es importante por el tema de
los crons.

5) Tanto netdate como rdate pueden obtener la hora de cualquier host que
la proporcione, lo cual no es garantía de que ese host tenga la hora
bien.

6) La hora parece ser que se obtiene a través del puerto 37 (time), por
lo que en general podrás preguntarle la hora a cualquier sistema Unix y
Linux (incluso yo se la podría preguntar a tu máquina y ésta la daría)
que no tengan expresamente deshabilitado este puerto. Por eso, como la
hora se la puedes preguntar a casi cualquier sistema Unix/Linux, no
debes fiarte mucho de lo que te respondan.

Yo casi te aconsejaría que utilizaras el protocolo NTP para obtener la
fecha y hora. El NTP sólo lo tienen habilitado (normalmente) aquellos
hosts que tienen horas fiables (que obtienen a su vez de otros hosts
todavía más fiables). Lo puedes encontrar en el paquete xntp3, y la
documentación (el paquete xntp3 viene sin páginas man, lo cual es una
mierda) en el paquete xntp3-doc (ambos en la sección net de main). En el
paquete, entre otros, tienes un demonio xntpd para la administración
automática de la hora del sistema, y el cliente ntpdate.

El cliente ntpdate tiene la posibilidad de preguntarle la hora a varios
hosts y selecciona al mejor host (como netdate), puede no poner la hora
y sólo mostrarla en pantalla (como rdate), y puede usar la llamada al
sistema settimeofday(2) para poner la hora a lo bestia (como netdate y
rdate) o la adjtimex(2) (aunque en la documentación la llaman adjtime()
) para cambiar la hora gradualmente (como rdate).

Además del cliente, tienes el demonio xntpd, que funciona como un
ntpdate automático continuo pero mejor: no usa crons (como usaría la
implementación a mano de ntpdate's continuos automático)s, maximiza la
exactitud y fiabilidad, y minimiza el uso de recursos. En el paquete
vienen más programas, aunque sólo encuentro interesante el ntptrace, con
el que puedes ver qué camino ha seguido la información NTP desde que
salió del servidor primario:
# ntptrace gong
gong.ci.uv.es: stratum 3, offset -0.055972, synch distance 0.23674
L0.EB-Valencia1.red.rediris.es: stratum 2, offset -0.024855, synch
distance 0.12744
hora.rediris.es: stratum 1, offset 0.015771, synch distance 0.00011,
refid 'GPS'

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Re: squid y reducir sus 18 hijos!!!

2000-02-11 Thread Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona
Antonio Castro writes:
  [...]
  Entonces tendriamos que ordenados por pesos estarían en primer lugar
  los procesos implementados en Windows, luego los procesos implementados
  en Linux, después los threads de Linux, y lo más ligero de todo creo que 
  serían los threads de Windows.
  

Pues no pillo de dónde sacas esa conclusión. Primero habría
que definir pesado con algo más de exactitud. Una definición podría
ser algo así como es más pesado cuanto más largo es el cambio de
contexto (el paso de ejecutar en la CPU un proceso a ejecutar
otro). Y en ese caso, medir lo que se tarde en ese cambio de contexto
en cada uno de los casos.

Como no tengo datos al respecto, no puedo decir si la
clasificación que pones es más o menos cierta o no...

  En realidad me gusta más la palabra procesos ligeros que threads para el 
  caso de Linux. 

Procesos ligeros hace referencia a que son procesos más
ligeros que los normales en el sentido de que tienen menos
contexto, y por lo tanto los cambios son más rápidos. Threads
(hilos, hebras) hace referencia a que son unidades de ejecución, 
esto es, son planificados por el planificador de la CPU. De hecho, los 
procesos tradicionales suelen considerarse como de una hebra. En
los sitemas con threads lo que ocurre es que un proceso normal puede 
tener en realidad varias hebras, varios flujos de ejecución.

  
  Para mi si tienen PID distintos, deberían llamarse procesos. 
  

Esto es relativamente poco relevante. Cada thread siempre
tiene algún identificador, que puede ser o no un PID, dependiendo
normalmente de la implementación. Como en Linux están implementados
con clone (como ya ha comentado alguien), que funciona hasta cierto
punto de forma (relativamente) análoga al fork, se usan PID como
identificadores.

Hala, ya está bien por hoy. Que voy a parecer un profesor de
esos que dan clases... ;-)

Saludos,

Jesus.

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Re: resucitando un viejo 486 (svgalib)

2000-02-11 Thread Ivan Andres Hernandez Puga
Estimado Andres:

En un mail comentaste 

Solo me falta que hubiese un buen navegador svgalib para mandar las
X a freir esparragos

y ultimamente (pese a que tengo una pII350) he pensado que la svgalib esta
para algo mas que para los jueguitos.
X-Window tiene una compleja arquitectura tcp/ip que lo hace sumamente
valuable, pero como yo solo necesito un gestor grafico de tareas (comodidad)
me bastaria algo mas reducido y me beneficiaria algo mas veloz.

Habria que intentar hacer algo con ello...

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Re: Banner para Debian

2000-02-11 Thread Fernando
Hola:

Solo para que mantenga el Subject

Jaime E. Villate wrote:
 
.
 
 De todas formas incluyo tus ideas en una página que espero tener lista
 mañana para comenzar la votación.
 
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Re: Tarjetas graficas y de TV

2000-02-11 Thread dfm

sobre los Athlon a 500, mejores que los Pentium III a 500, yo también me
iba a comprar una voodoo3 3000 o 3500 pero vistas las comparativas voy a
hacer de tripas corazón y gastarme unas pelillas más para comprarme una
Gforce 256 DDR (Creative Geforce Anhilator Pro) con salida TV, etc, se que
vale alrededor del doble pero weno, seguro que dentro de un año no querré
comprarme una que haya salido al mismo precio que sea 3 veces mejor (mira
en la web de 3dfx las que van a sacar en primavera, lo mismo te merece la
pena esperar un pelín.)

Según me han comentado en la lista ya viene soportada en las X 3.3.5

Saludos

Daniel





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Hola a todos.

Estoy pensando en comprar una tarjeta gráfica AGP y una
sintonizadora de TV y claro, tienen que ir de pila master con el Linux

Tarjeta gráfica he pensado en una 3Dfx voodoo3 3000 AGP que
tiene salida de TV, descompresión por hardware de MPEG-2 y
esta soportada por Xfree desde la versión 3.3.4
¿ alguien la esta usando ?
¿ que tal va ?
¿ me recomendáis alguna otra (que tenga salida de TV) por un precio
parecido ?

Sintonizadora de vídeo todavía no lo tengo claro, el PC Actual
ponía bien la TerratecTValue
Las mismas preguntas que antes :-)+
¿ que tal funcionara con un K6-2 500MHz ?

Un saludo.

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RE: Tarjetas graficas y de TV

2000-02-11 Thread Tejada Lacaci, Antonio
 -Mensaje original-
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 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Asunto:   Re: Tarjetas graficas y de TV
 
 
 sobre los Athlon a 500, mejores que los Pentium III a 500, yo también me
 iba a comprar una voodoo3 3000 o 3500 pero vistas las comparativas voy a
 hacer de tripas corazón y gastarme unas pelillas más para comprarme una
 Gforce 256 DDR (Creative Geforce Anhilator Pro) con salida TV, etc, se que
[...]
 Según me han comentado en la lista ya viene soportada en las X 3.3.5
 
En el propio site de nVidia tienes los servidores X y las GLX para
todas las tarjetas de nVidia.
Yo tengo un athlon 500 y una TNT2 y en Linux me van bien, aunque aún
no he probado el OpenGL (o Mesa) con Linux.
En windows la TNT2 es una pasada con el OpenGL y normalmente la
ponen por las nubes frente a las voodoo 3500 (y son bastante más baratas).
Se supone que cuando saquen el xfree 4.0, junto con los DRI, las tarjetas 3D
acelerarán OpenGl en linux igual (si no más) que en win.

 Saludos
 
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Re: Tarjetas graficas y de TV

2000-02-11 Thread Pookie
 Hola a todos.

 Estoy pensando en comprar una tarjeta gráfica AGP y una
 sintonizadora de TV y claro, tienen que ir de pila master con el Linux

 Tarjeta gráfica he pensado en una 3Dfx voodoo3 3000 AGP que
 tiene salida de TV, descompresión por hardware de MPEG-2 y
 esta soportada por Xfree desde la versión 3.3.4
 ¿ alguien la esta usando ?

Yo, solo una cosa... NO TIENE MPEG-2... NINUNA DE LAS TARJETAS 3D ACTUALES
TIENE MPEG2 es algo con lo que confunden los fabircantes, pq dicen que
llevan un DVD-Assist, que no es mas que un sistema de despackeo de
pixels, para que la reproduccion soft sea mas rapida. Es lo mismo que paso
con las primeras tarjetas que llevaban aceleracion mpeg... me refiero a
tarjetas graficas, no a descompresoras, del tipo Virge i esas. Llevaban una
ayuda, pero no descompresion HW. si iba bien era pq tu ordenador daba de si
:)

 ¿ que tal va ?

Va muuuy bien :)

 ¿ me recomendáis alguna otra (que tenga salida de TV) por un precio
parecido ?

Como mucho la GeFORCE, creo que las Voodoo4 y 5 no llevaran salida de tele


 Sintonizadora de vídeo todavía no lo tengo claro, el PC Actual
 ponía bien la TerratecTValue

Si lo que quieres es sintonizar la tele comprate la V3 3500 que ya lleva
sontonizador, y asi lo tienes todo en una... lo que no se es como ira el
sintonizador a nivel de compatibilidad con el v4l

 Las mismas preguntas que antes :-)+
 ¿ que tal funcionara con un K6-2 500MHz ?

Yo creo que bien, las tarjetas de tele van bien hasta en un p133 o asi...


 Un saludo.

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Re: resucitando un viejo 486 con debian

2000-02-11 Thread SKaVeN
Hell-o Andres Herrera!

El día Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 11:09:54PM CET

 Esto, muchisimas gracias :-)  Ahora mismo lo estoy usando en el curro pero
 con tal de no dedicar un rato a leer doc estaba echando mano del raton cada
 dos por tres (pero no es lo mismo).

si te interesa tienes un tutorial en /usr/doc/vim-rt/tutorial bastante majo 

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Re: squid y reducir sus 18 hijos!!!

2000-02-11 Thread Hue-Bond
El viernes 11 de febrero de 2000 a la(s) 11:54:19 +0100, Jesus M. 
Gonzalez-Barahona contaba:

   Hala, ya está bien por hoy. Que voy a parecer un profesor de
esos que dan clases... ;-)

 Pues ten por seguro que muchos nos alegraríamos :^).


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imap4 de slink ¿va bien? y namespaces ¿queseso?

2000-02-11 Thread Manel Marin
Hola a todos,

¿Alguien usa intensivamente el imap4 de slink? ¿que tal va?

¿Me podeis explicar que son los namespaces?
¿Y el imap server directory?

La conexión SSL desde Netscape no funciona ¿Alguien la tiene rulando?

(chuleta en preparación ;-)


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Re: Chuleta de arranque.

2000-02-11 Thread Manel Marin
Hola Antonio,

On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 06:51:05PM +0100, Antonio Calvo Rodriguez wrote:
...
 Veamos, la cadena va asi mas o menos 
 init
  -login
 -bash ( es de login lee .bash_profile y pone un entorno )
   -script x ( bash lanza un shell para ejecutarlo que hereda el del
 proceso anterior ).
 

Que pedaso de explicación ¡gracias!


A ver si lo he entendido bien:

Si el bash lo lanza un login es un login-bash y lee ~/.bash_profile
Si es bash es el de un script pero lo lanzaste desde un login-bash también es
 un login-bash porque hereda del anterior
Si el bash es de un script lanzado por cron es un non-login-shell y por tanto
 solo lee ~./bashrc
Los hijos de un non-login-shell (scripts lanzados por el) también lo son,
 porque heredan del anterior

¿Correcto?


Pues leo en el man que aun hay algo más:
- Si el bash es non-login-shell y fue lanzado como sh (como muchos de los
 scripts del arranque) no se lee ningún archivo de arranque, ni ~./bashrc,
 ni ~./bash_profile

 Ahora ya lo entiendo ;-)


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Re: MySQL y potato

2000-02-11 Thread Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona

Quizás este mensaje, de la lista sobre slash, te sirva de
algo. En al URL que se menciona en el mensaje puedes ver más mensajes
relacionados con éste, y con tu problema. Saludos,

Jesus.

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:25:26 +
From: Andrew R. Brink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Slashcode] Mysql screwed up

Well Im getting somewhere.  If I set the password to nothing, it works,
if I set it to anything (even a space) it doesn'tvery wierd.


Andrew R. Brink wrote:
 
 Andrew R. Brink wrote:
 
  Well there is a password there, but it looks encrypted.  Are they?
 
  Andrew
 
  James Turinsky (slash-help) wrote:
  
   -Original Message-
 The thing is though, the password is the exact same, it just won't let
 me in at all for some reason. Not even from the command line.
 
 Andrew
 
   From: Andrew R. Brink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 11:01 PM
   Subject: [Slashcode] Mysql screwed up
  
   I just installed a new version of mysql, (using apt-get upgrade, with
   debian)
   And now I get I can't login with the user slash using the password to
   the database.
   
   Any ideas or fixes?
  
   Yes, how about checking the mysql users table to see if your upgrade hosed
   it?
  
   (in other words: duh!)
  
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Francisco Callejo writes:
  Hola.
  
  Al instalar la última versión de MySQL en potato (3.22.30-4) he
  perdido la posibilidad de acceso con contraseña. El changelog indica
  que esta versión repara un fallo de seguridad sobre las contraseñas,
  pero yo me he quedado sin acceso a mis bases de datos. 
  
  ¿Alquien sabe qué pasa?
  
  Saludos,
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ACPI Dual Monitor....

2000-02-11 Thread Antonio Lara Quirós
 Buenas, pues eso... alguien sabe de recursos por ahi sueltos sobre ACPI y
algo parecido al Dual Monitor de windows (dos tarj. graficas  dos
monitores y poder abrir una consola en cada uno, o tambien poder llegar a
hacerlo con las X... ). Bueno si no hay recursos y alguien ha probado estas
cosillas pos que meche una mano, ;).

Un saludo.



Re: Error en arranque

2000-02-11 Thread Hue-Bond
El jueves 10 de febrero de 2000 a la(s) 18:29:25 +0100, SKaVeN contaba:

  Anda la osa!, prueba con irq=7 a ver si te funciona. O si tienes
 windows a mano, vete a Inicio |Configuración | Panel de Control | Sistema |
 Dispositivos de video, sonido y juegos | Soundblaster 16 | Recursos
  y copia la configuración de irq y dma que tiene para ponérsela igual
 a linux.

tipica respuesta que aborrezco  =8-G, perdon por el off-topic  O:)

 Es de  suponer que  tal información se  encontrará desperdigada
 por algún lugar incógnito del registro, pero vaya usted a descifrar
 el contenido del system.dat.

 Así, se podría saber sin tener que arrancar la kk.


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Re: dselect

2000-02-11 Thread Pedro Guerreiro
On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 05:19:06AM -0200, Jorge Horta de Araujo wrote:

 Vc tem de alterar o arquivo /etc/apt/sources.list e informar a localizacao
 dos pacotes que vc pegou. man sources.list tem o exemplo
 deb file:/home/jason/debian stable main contrib non-free
 Alem disso o arquivo Packages.gz e necessario. Ele tem listado todos os
 pacotes e as dependencias.
 Existe um comando que gera esse arquivo a partir dos arquivos .deb existentes 
 mas eu nao sei qual eh. Talvez outra pessoa na lista saiba.

Vê 'man dpkg-scanpackages'

 Depois digite console-apt. Eh um programa bem mais simples pra iniciantes
 do que o dselect. Digite ? pra ver o help.

Ou capt (é o mesmo comando, mas este é o nome curto). Quando a ser mais
simples, só se for para iniciantes, porque nas potencialidades ainda não
chega nem perto do dselect.


Dialup Doesn't Dialup

2000-02-11 Thread Lane Lester
Having enjoyed some of the features of Corel Linux, I decided that I
wanted to try the real thing. I bought McCarty's book and installed
the CD. A number of packaged installs were offered, and I selected
Dialup, both for dialup and the X graphics emphasis.

Imagine my dismay when I couldn't dialup! Since installing, I
have fiddled with granting permissions, joining groups, commenting
auth out of options, and I've lost count about what else. But when
I run wvdial, everything goes fine until it looks like I've logged on
to my ISP (username and password accepted), and then it says something
like PPP (D?) died (error 1).

Can you help me start getting where I want to be with Debian?
-- 
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Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA

Getting where I want to be with Corel Linux


RE: Based On

2000-02-11 Thread Lane Lester
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Robert Ruzbacky wrote:
 Yes,
 
 Corel has apparently based their flavour of linux on debian as well!!
 
Yes, indeed.
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Re: Check This Out!

2000-02-11 Thread Lane Lester
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, David Wiard wrote:
 exactly what software do you install that automatically emails everyone
 in an address book advertising DSL service?

It's probably the software that the Free DSL service provides. It
generates ads on your screen in return for the free service.

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Getting where I want to be with Corel Linux


Re: Dialup Doesn't Dialup

2000-02-11 Thread John Hasler
Lane writes:
 Can you help me start getting where I want to be with Debian?

Run pppconfig as root and answer the questions.  You will then be able to
connect to your ISP with 'pon' and disconnect with 'poff'.  email me if it
doesn't work.
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mgetty incoming fax question

2000-02-11 Thread debuser
I've setup mgetty (from stable) to automatically print faxes when they are
received.  This works fine, but when faxes are recieved, it sends an email
to root.  Is there any way to disable the sending of a message to root
upon receipt of a fax?

Thanks,

Gerry



socks5

2000-02-11 Thread Pollywog
I am trying to compile Licq with SOCKS5 support but I keep getting cannot
find -lsocks5  What packages are missing? 

I have libsocksd and libsocksd-dev installed plus libsocks4

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ftp, inetd.conf, potato

2000-02-11 Thread Karl M Yerkes
I just upgraded to potato from slink. I noticed that my inetd.conf got
modified. In particular, extra comments (like #off) were put in front of
ftp, netbios-ssn, and netbios-ns.
I tryed to turn on ftp service by uncommenting ftp and doing 
/etc/init.d/inetd reload, but I get this error.

mozart:~$ ftp localhost
Connected to localhost.
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
ftpexit
mozart:~$

This wasn't the case when I was using slink. Whats different? Or what do I
not have that I need?

--karl yerkes


ipfilter

2000-02-11 Thread Bob Bernstein
A thousand pardons if this has been a FAQ, but...

Would someone be good enough to clue me in on the current status of the
ipfilter package as far as Linux is concerned?

I've farted around the net looking for stuff and I keep coming up dry. I seem
to recall a kernel patch awhile back...?


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Re: e-commerce solution needed

2000-02-11 Thread Rolf Schillinger
Have a look at www.minivend.com and see if it could fit your needs.
If it does you get a good software :)
bis bald, Rolf

On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Felipe Alvarez Harnecker wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 It's there any decent e-commerce package that runs on debian??
 I don't care if it is commercial.
 
 I know intershop runs on Suse but never succeded to install it under debian.
 
 any pointer would be great.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: ipfilter

2000-02-11 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 A thousand pardons if this has been a FAQ, but...

 Would someone be good enough to clue me in on the current status of the
 ipfilter package as far as Linux is concerned?

You won't see much about ipfilter outside of *BSD and Solaris - the
patches haven't been updated since 2.0.34 or so (early 1998!).

 I've farted around the net looking for stuff and I keep coming up dry.
 I seem to recall a kernel patch awhile back...?

Mostly because almost no one uses, and is interested in maintaining (it
seems like) ipfilter on Linux.  Linux has it's own firewalling/NAT setup
(ipfwadm/ipmasqadm on 2.0.x, ipchains on 2.2.x, and netfilter in
2.3.x/2.4.x).

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firewall access via internet

2000-02-11 Thread zdrysdal
Hi

Is the firewall supposed to allow access via telnet on the internet???  I
just found out that i could telnet into our debian firewall server via the
internet.

If not... then what options do i have to disable that feature... i run
slink 2.0.36 with ipfwadm.

This is the only reference to our firewall in the ipfw rules :

#
#  Anybody inside can access the firewall
#
ipfwadm -F -b -a accept -P all -S $DIAGNET -D berus (berus is the name of
the firewall server)
#

thanx



Re: ftp, inetd.conf, potato

2000-02-11 Thread aphro
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Karl M Yerkes wrote:

kmyerk This wasn't the case when I was using slink. Whats different? Or what 
do I
kmyerk not have that I need?

make sure that inetd is pointing to a valid binary and that the binary
exists for the ftp server.  if your using proftpd check /etc/proftpd.conf
and make sure it is in inetd mode not standalone.

also look at  /var/log/daemon.log for mroe detailed info on what happens
when you try to ftp

it mayu also be worthwhile to check /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow
make sure you have access to the service.

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help

2000-02-11 Thread Dennis Howard
I am trying to install Debian Linux onto one of my computers.  This one is
an Intel 486DX-33 with 8MB ram and 170 MB harddrive. I am using an ALI vga
video card ( I also tried an ATI vga card).
When I boot it using the rescue disk, it starts, loads root.bin, loads
linus, uncompresses linux and boots the kernel. A page of cryptic info comes
on the screen and the last line reads

'checking hit instruction',

 then the screen goes blank and the system reboots. This happens booting
from floppy and from hard drive using Loadlin.
The floppy boots my pentium no problen and the installation procedure
starts.
Anybody know what the problem might be when it is 'checking hit
instruction'?
Thanking you in advance for your time and response.
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Re: ftp, inetd.conf, potato

2000-02-11 Thread Karl M Yerkes
Sure enough ftp points to /usr/sbin/in.ftpd which does not exist. what
package has in.tftpd and in.ftpd ?


--karl yerkes


stupid mutt/gpg question...

2000-02-11 Thread Jonathan Lupa
This must have been covered before, but I couldn't turn anything up on
a quick deja search. Apologies ahead of time for using this guys
fingerprint in vain, but I snagged it from the debian lists, so... :)

Since I upgraded mutt from .95 to 1, I get the following error when
mutt tries to learn keys

[-- PGP output follows (current time: Thu Feb 10 21:31:05 2000) --]
gpg: Signature made Wed Feb  9 06:43:01 2000 EST using DSA key ID 917A225E
gpg: requesting key 917A225E from search.keyserver.net ...
gpg: [fd 7]: read error: Connection reset by peer
gpg: Total number processed: 0
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
[-- End of PGP output --]

Gpg works fine from the commandline:
Rankor:~$gpg --recv-keys 917A225E
gpg: requesting key 917A225E from search.keyserver.net ...
gpg: key 917A225E: public key imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:   imported: 1

The mutt version is as follows:
Rankor:~$mutt -v
Mutt 1.0i (1999-10-22)
Copyright (C) 1996-9 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.2.12 [using slang 10202]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  -USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
+USE_IMAP  +USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  +HAVE_COLOR  
+HAVE_PGP5  +HAVE_PGP2  +HAVE_GPG  
-BUFFY_SIZE 
-EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
MAILPATH=/var/spool/mail
SHAREDIR=/usr/share/mutt
SYSCONFDIR=/etc
ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell
_PGPPATH=/usr/bin/pgp
_PGPV2PATH=/usr/bin/pgp
_PGPV3PATH=/usr/bin/pgp
_PGPGPGPATH=/usr/bin/gpg
To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED].

I __know__ its got to be something stupid that I just
missed. (/usr/bin/pgp is soft linked to /usr/bin/gpg).

Thanks...

-Jonathan

muttrc
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Re: ipfilter

2000-02-11 Thread Chris Schleifer
Hi,

I put OpenBSD on my firewall box a few months ago specifically for
ipfilter. As Phil Brutsche said the latest ipfilter port for Linux is
for the 2.0.x kernels, which is too old.

Pointless rambling..
I haven't looked back since moving for ipchains to ipfilter. My rules
for ipchains were like 30 lines or more and the ipfilter rules are less
than 10, mainly due to the fact that ipfilter is stateful (keeps track
of how/when connections we're initiated) while ipchains is not.

The nicest thing (among many) about ipfilter is I didn't have to open
any ports at all to the network except what I wanted (because it is
stateful). With ipchains I had to open 1024-65536 for general surfing.
Within an hour or so of switching to ipfilter I started seeing attempts
at certain high ports I had never seen blocked before.

Unfortunately as far as I can tell netfilter won't be any different than
ipchains, they just rewrote the code and changed the syntax.
...End pointless rambling

Chris Schleifer

P.S. I am by no means an expert on tcp or firewalls, so if I'm wrong
someone correct me please.


Bob Bernstein wrote:
 
 A thousand pardons if this has been a FAQ, but...
 
 Would someone be good enough to clue me in on the current status of the
 ipfilter package as far as Linux is concerned?
 
 I've farted around the net looking for stuff and I keep coming up dry. I seem
 to recall a kernel patch awhile back...?
 
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Re: time/clock configu

2000-02-11 Thread Bob Hilliard
Timothy C. Phan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Hi,
 
   I'd like to know how to configure the clock to show
   the correct time.  I selected US/CENTRAL when I install
   the potato and the time keeps showing 6 hours behind.

 It sound like your system is set for GMT, but you are setting it
with local time.  Check the value of UTC in /etc/default/rcS.
 
Bob
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Re: OpenBSD SSH in potato.

2000-02-11 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 01:47:11AM +0800, Ronald Tin wrote:
 I just noticed a strange thing
 
 In the default /etc/ssh/sshd_config there is a line ServerKeyBits 768,
 however, the post-installation script creates a key with 1024 bits.
 
 I thought the ServerKeyBits option should correspond to
 the host key as generated by the script?
 
 Is it a bug, or did I misunderstood something?

different keys, the hostkey is used to verify the host is who it says
it is, how that works is the first time a client connects its given
the public host key (it would be more secure to get this directly from
the admin but...) the client then encrypts a random token with that
public key and sends it to the server, if the server sends the
decrypted token back the client knows the server is who it says it is
(this of course assumes you did not get a bogus public key in the
first place)

ServerKeyBits refers to the encryption key that is generated on the
fly when sshd starts its used to actually encrypt the session traffic.
its never saved to disk and is regenerated every hour or so (defined
in sshd_config as well) 

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Re: time/date problems

2000-02-11 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 09:23:36AM +1300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
 
 i am running slink 2.1 with kernel 2.0.36 on a Dell Power Edge 2100 and i
 am having problems with the time.  Basically what happens is that once i
 set up the correct date/time in BIOS...when i load up linux the time  date
 get's corrupted.

you should not tamper with the hardware clock.  
 
 eg.  real date time is 11-Feb 09:36.   When i load linux up it shows 12-Feb
 04:28.

usually linux (and every other unix i am aware of) keeps the hardware
clock set to UTC (GMT) not local time like broken OSes.

 When i go back into BIOS it shows 11-Feb 15:31
 
 what the hell is going on? :)

your hardware clock is reset at shutdown by linux, its set to the
current time in GMT, as known by linux.

 i have tested the bios clock by setting it up correctly and booting with a
 windows boot disk and it keeps the correct date/time.  I can only surmise
 that it is the linux software that is corrupting my date/clock.

its not corrupted, windows is broken and keeps the hardware clock in
local time, linux/un*x does not, it keeps it in GMT.

 Any thoughts would be appreciated.

if you must have correct time in windows you will have to reconfigure
linux to keep time in local time instead of GMT.  personally i just
set the broken OS's (in my case MacOS) timezone to London, England
(GMT) so it won't corrupt the hardware clock, then linux has correct
time and hardware clock is also correct (in GMT as it should be) I
never do anything in my broken OS that depends on the time anymore so
its not a problem, i just use my wristwatch when i need to know what
time it is ;-)


-- 
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[PADS] The Corel LINUX Install Process: Under the Hood

2000-02-11 Thread Chris Fearnley
The Philadelphia Area Debian Society (PADS)
 (http://www.CJFearnley.com/pads/)

 presents

  The Corel LINUX Install Process: Under the Hood

   When:
  Wednesday 16 February 2000, 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM

   Speaker:
  LeRoy Cressy, Senior Installation Technician, LinuxForce Inc.

   Where:
  IQ Group, 6th floor (its the room with a big Q on the door)
  325 Chestnut Street
  Philadelphia, PA

   Abstract

   Corel LINUX is the easiest Linux distribution to install ... except when
   it doesn't. Corel's install depends on an XFree86 3.3.5 supported video
   card and a CD-ROM drive. We will examine techniques to install Corel
   LINUX on systems without such amenities. Finally, we will discuss
   procedures for converting an existing Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 system into a
   Corel LINUX system.

   Social Dinner

   Attendees are invited to gather for dinner prior to the meeting at 6:30
   PM at Xando, 325 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia, PA. Please RSVP so we can
   get an appropriate sized table.

-- 
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   Dare to be Naïve -- Bucky Fuller


Latex install unsuccessful in slink

2000-02-11 Thread kvaughan
Here I am, stuck at work, Linux not allowed on the network...  :(

I want to use latex/lyx and have installed the latest Slink versions of
tetex* off debian.org (WinNT serves as my in-between), but the install
script reports the following:

Running initex. This may take some time. ...
fmtutil: `tex -ini
-progname=latex latex.ini' failed.
Output of initex is in /tmp/tex00494aaa

and lyx dies since latex can't be found. I thought I saw in another message
earlier this month that some errors with the tetex packages were Y2K
problems, but I lost that one and can't find it in the archives. Is there
another set of debs somewhere else? Has this been seen before?

Thanks,

Kenward

I need to wait for the release of potato before I can upgrade, BTW (I have
limited space on my HD, so can't DL the dist. with NT).

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time/date problems solved

2000-02-11 Thread zdrysdal

 i am running slink 2.1 with kernel 2.0.36 on a Dell Power Edge 2100 and i
 am having problems with the time.  Basically what happens is that once i
 set up the correct date/time in BIOS...when i load up linux the time 
date  get's corrupted.


Hiya

problem solved... i had to set GMT= in the /etc/default/rcS file to turn
off the GMT feature...

thanx to Ethan Benson and all that replied.



Re: 7200 RPM udma33 same speed as 5400 PIO mode 4

2000-02-11 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 08:40:29AM -0700, Rick Macdonald generated a stream 
 of 1s and 0s:
  
  I added a Maxtor 27GB 7200rpm ATA66 drive to my P200MMX when I upgraded to
  potatos and kernel 2.2.14.
  
  My motherboard (ASUS TX97-E) only supports udma mode 2 (33MB/sec), but I
  find that this drive and my old WD 4GB (no UDMA) both show the same speed
  of about 9.4MB/sec with hdparm -t. Even if the new drive is the only drive
  on the primary IDE interface.

 You can't expect any improvents unless you turn multcount to 16 or to
 whatever your drive supports, and switch I/O into 32bit mode. Just with
 those two turned on, my WD goes from 6 to 12 MB/s without using DMA.
 Also I recommend setting unmaskirq to on, because that frees up your CPU
 when it does disk transfer; the multcount setting saves you the number
 of interrupts per transfer the size of this setting (i.e. 1 interrupt per 16 
 blocks instead of 16 interrupts per 16 blocks) that you set it to, so it's 
 very important, so is 32 bit transfer mode. The 16 bit mode is really an 
 archaic setting
 dating back to early Pentium and 486 machines, this issue really needs
 to be addressed on distribution level, since most people don't bother
 playing with hdparm at all, they're always SLOW. What's ironic, is you
 can configure your kernel to enable DMA, but can't enable 32 bit I/O.

Sheesh! That sounded so good, but as shown below, those settings made no
difference. I tried again with just the one drive on the rimary IDE (no
slave). I tried -X34 too, but it hung the machine. Fortunately, no damage
was done when I hit the reset switch.

Any other ideas? Could I be missing kernel config options, or would hdparm
know that and not set the values?

timshel# hdparm -m16 -c1 -u1 -i -v /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 setting 32-bit I/O support flag to 1
 setting multcount to 16
 setting unmaskirq to 1 (on)
 multcount= 16 (on)
 I/O support  =  1 (32-bit)
 unmaskirq=  1 (on)
 using_dma=  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 nowerr   =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead=  8 (on)
 geometry = 3322/255/63, sectors = 53369568, start = 0

 Model=Maxtor 92732U8, FwRev=RA530JN0, SerialNo=H8059G4C
 Config={ Fixed }
 RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=57
 BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
 DblWordIO=no, OldPIO=2, DMA=yes, OldDMA=0
 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=53369568
 tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 mword2 
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 
 UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 *mode2 mode3 mode4 

timshel# hdparm -t /dev/hda;hdparm -t /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  6.99 seconds =  9.16 MB/sec

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  6.77 seconds =  9.45 MB/sec
You have mail in /var/spool/mail/rickm
timshel# hdparm -m0 -c0 -u0 -i -v /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 setting 32-bit I/O support flag to 0
 setting multcount to 0
 setting unmaskirq to 0 (off)
 multcount=  0 (off)
 I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq=  0 (off)
 using_dma=  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 nowerr   =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead=  8 (on)
 geometry = 3322/255/63, sectors = 53369568, start = 0

 Model=Maxtor 92732U8, FwRev=RA530JN0, SerialNo=H8059G4C
 Config={ Fixed }
 RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=57
 BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
 DblWordIO=no, OldPIO=2, DMA=yes, OldDMA=0
 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=53369568
 tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 mword2 
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 
 UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 *mode2 mode3 mode4 

timshel# hdparm -t /dev/hda;hdparm -t /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  6.90 seconds =  9.28 MB/sec

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  6.93 seconds =  9.24 MB/sec

...RickM...


Re: [PADS] The Corel LINUX Install Process: Under the Hood

2000-02-11 Thread Ron
Finally, we will discuss procedures for converting an existing
Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 system into a Corel LINUX system.

..should I bring a copy of the GPL and a bottle
of correction fluid then??


Re: FBI's find_ddos

2000-02-11 Thread John Hasler
aphro writes:
 anyways theres some new tool out from the FBI that is supposed to track
 to see if you got any DoS daemons installed on your machines.

 and although im 99.9% sure i have none i figured i'd try itout to see
 what all it does.

You actually ran a binary distributed by the FBI?  You did a complete
reinstall afterward, I hope.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Elmwood, Wisconsin


Re: 7200 RPM udma33 same speed as 5400 PIO mode 4

2000-02-11 Thread Dan Melomedman
Well, then I guess your IDE can't do it any faster. How fast is the
machine, what chipset?
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Re: Shutdown problem (fwd)

2000-02-11 Thread Suresh Kumar.R
I tried /sbin/halt and /sbin/poweroff in /etc/inittab

The actual line in /etc/inittab at present is

ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/halt 

Suresh

 What is the shutdown command syntax that you are using?

 John Foster
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 ICQ# 19460173
 


Re: help

2000-02-11 Thread paul
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, dennis said,
 I am trying to install Debian Linux onto one of my computers.  This one is
 an Intel 486DX-33 with 8MB ram and 170 MB harddrive. I am using an ALI vga
 video card ( I also tried an ATI vga card).
 When I boot it using the rescue disk, it starts, loads root.bin, loads
 linus, uncompresses linux and boots the kernel. A page of cryptic info comes
 on the screen and the last line reads
 
 'checking hit instruction',
 
  then the screen goes blank and the system reboots. This happens booting
 from floppy and from hard drive using Loadlin.
 The floppy boots my pentium no problen and the installation procedure
 starts.
 Anybody know what the problem might be when it is 'checking hit
 instruction'?
The message is actually Checking 'hlt' instruction... and it is something to 
do with cpu instructions.  I'm not too familiar with debugging cpu problems, 
but that seems to be what you've got.  You may be SOL with your 486.

I'm sorry I can't be of more help, but my 486 has been a doorstop for so long 
that I'm sure I'd have trouble attempting to replicate this one.

Please keep me updated though, as I'm curious about this. 

thanks

-ptw


Re: 7200 RPM udma33 same speed as 5400 PIO mode 4

2000-02-11 Thread Dan Melomedman

Check out my interesting timings:
/dev/hda:
 multcount=  0 (off)
 I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq=  1 (on)
 using_dma=  0 (off)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 nowerr   =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead=  0 (off)
 geometry = 1232/255/63, sectors = 19807200, start = 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/dan/debs/pgcc/gcc-2.95.2# hdparm -t
 /dev/hda
 /dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in 15.10 seconds =  4.24
 MB/sec


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/dan/debs/pgcc/gcc-2.95.2# hdparm -tT /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  2.32 seconds = 55.17 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  6.83 seconds =  9.37 MB/sec
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/dan/debs/pgcc/gcc-2.95.2# hdparm /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
multcount= 16 (on)
I/O support  =  1 (32-bit)
unmaskirq=  0 (off)
using_dma=  0 (off)
keepsettings =  0 (off)
nowerr   =  0 (off)
readonly =  0 (off)
readahead= 16 (on)
geometry = 1232/255/63, sectors = 19807200, start = 0

Note: when my machine is a bit idler, I can get better scores. When I
overclock my machine from 350 to 370 I get +~2 MB/s more.
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Re: Shutdown problem (fwd)

2000-02-11 Thread paul
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Suresh said,
 I tried /sbin/halt and /sbin/poweroff in /etc/inittab
 
 The actual line in /etc/inittab at present is
 
 ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/halt 
 
Use shutdown -h now  see man shutdown

-ptw


Unidentified subject!

2000-02-11 Thread Lars Sander-Green
I installed the latest version of the base Debian system on an old 486 today 
(clean system). The installation seemed to work fine, but when I tried to 
boot from the hard disk, the letters LI appeared and the system froze. I 
re-booted from the rescue disk, and re-installed, but the problem persisted. 
Although I don't know if it's connected, the root directory claims to be set 
on read-only no matter how many times I set it otherwise. I tried, once 
again, to boot from the rescue disk, but it now also freezes after LI. I 
tried three different disks as rescue disks and rawrote the image many 
times, but the disk still does nothing but say LI. If anyone could help me 
either to boot or to re-install, I wouold appreciate it.


Lars
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Getting a source package for every binary package installed

2000-02-11 Thread dan
Here's how to kind of automate downloading sources if anyone needs it. I
am planning to recompile them for K6 with pgcc.
Create a file containing all those packages: # dpkg --get-selections |
awk '$2==install { print $1 }'  sources_to_get. Edit this file, then,
run a little perl snippet attached.


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get_sources.pl
Description: Perl program


Unidentified subject!

2000-02-11 Thread Lars Sander-Green
I recently installed the most recent version of the Debian base system on an 
old 486 (with a clean system) from floppy disks. Everything seemed to be 
working fine and the base was installed, but when I tried to boot it from 
the HD it returned only the message LI and then froze. I managed to boot 
from the rescue disk and re-installed because I couldn't figure out the 
problem. After the second instalation nothing was improved; in fact, the 
rescue disk now returns LI. I have tried three different disks and numerous 
reformats, but the disk refuses to boot. Althoug I'm not sure, the fact that 
the system claimed my root sector was set to read-only and wouldn't let me 
change it to writeable may have something to do with the no-boot from the 
HD, but it doesn't explain the no-boot from the rescue disk. Any help, 
either to succesfully boot the system or to completely re-install it, would 
be appreciated.


Lars
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Re: ftp, inetd.conf, potato

2000-02-11 Thread aphro
on my slink machines it is netstd, not sure about potato. :

nate

On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Karl M Yerkes wrote:

kmyerk Sure enough ftp points to /usr/sbin/in.ftpd which does not exist. what
kmyerk package has in.tftpd and in.ftpd ?
kmyerk 
kmyerk 
kmyerk --karl yerkes
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Re: 7200 RPM udma33 same speed as 5400 PIO mode 4

2000-02-11 Thread aphro
just because the drive has higher rpms does not mean its faster, drive
technology (esp data density) has a major impact on performance, if the
5400rpm drive can store more data in less physical area it will perform
faster then the 7200rpm.  ive seen benchmarks that showed more modern 5400
drives outrunning the first couple generations of ibm 7200rpm drives.  i
dont know how old your drives are but figure it'd be worth pointing out.

nate


On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Rick Macdonald wrote:

rickma On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
rickma 
rickma  On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 08:40:29AM -0700, Rick Macdonald generated a 
stream of 1s and 0s:
rickma   
rickma   I added a Maxtor 27GB 7200rpm ATA66 drive to my P200MMX when I 
upgraded to
rickma   potatos and kernel 2.2.14.
rickma   
rickma   My motherboard (ASUS TX97-E) only supports udma mode 2 (33MB/sec), 
but I
rickma   find that this drive and my old WD 4GB (no UDMA) both show the same 
speed
rickma   of about 9.4MB/sec with hdparm -t. Even if the new drive is the 
only drive
rickma   on the primary IDE interface.
rickma 
rickma  You can't expect any improvents unless you turn multcount to 16 or to
rickma  whatever your drive supports, and switch I/O into 32bit mode. Just 
with
rickma  those two turned on, my WD goes from 6 to 12 MB/s without using DMA.
rickma  Also I recommend setting unmaskirq to on, because that frees up your 
CPU
rickma  when it does disk transfer; the multcount setting saves you the number
rickma  of interrupts per transfer the size of this setting (i.e. 1 interrupt 
per 16 blocks instead of 16 interrupts per 16 blocks) that you set it to, so 
it's very important, so is 32 bit transfer mode. The 16 bit mode is really an 
archaic setting
rickma  dating back to early Pentium and 486 machines, this issue really needs
rickma  to be addressed on distribution level, since most people don't bother
rickma  playing with hdparm at all, they're always SLOW. What's ironic, is you
rickma  can configure your kernel to enable DMA, but can't enable 32 bit I/O.
rickma 
rickma Sheesh! That sounded so good, but as shown below, those settings made no
rickma difference. I tried again with just the one drive on the rimary IDE (no
rickma slave). I tried -X34 too, but it hung the machine. Fortunately, no 
damage
rickma was done when I hit the reset switch.
rickma 
rickma Any other ideas? Could I be missing kernel config options, or would 
hdparm
rickma know that and not set the values?
rickma 
rickma timshel# hdparm -m16 -c1 -u1 -i -v /dev/hda
rickma 
rickma /dev/hda:
rickma  setting 32-bit I/O support flag to 1
rickma  setting multcount to 16
rickma  setting unmaskirq to 1 (on)
rickma  multcount= 16 (on)
rickma  I/O support  =  1 (32-bit)
rickma  unmaskirq=  1 (on)
rickma  using_dma=  1 (on)
rickma  keepsettings =  0 (off)
rickma  nowerr   =  0 (off)
rickma  readonly =  0 (off)
rickma  readahead=  8 (on)
rickma  geometry = 3322/255/63, sectors = 53369568, start = 0
rickma 
rickma  Model=Maxtor 92732U8, FwRev=RA530JN0, SerialNo=H8059G4C
rickma  Config={ Fixed }
rickma  RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=57
rickma  BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
rickma  DblWordIO=no, OldPIO=2, DMA=yes, OldDMA=0
rickma  CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=53369568
rickma  tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 mword2 
rickma  IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 
rickma  UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 *mode2 mode3 mode4 
rickma 
rickma timshel# hdparm -t /dev/hda;hdparm -t /dev/hda
rickma 
rickma /dev/hda:
rickma  Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  6.99 seconds =  9.16 MB/sec
rickma 
rickma /dev/hda:
rickma  Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  6.77 seconds =  9.45 MB/sec
rickma You have mail in /var/spool/mail/rickm
rickma timshel# hdparm -m0 -c0 -u0 -i -v /dev/hda
rickma 
rickma /dev/hda:
rickma  setting 32-bit I/O support flag to 0
rickma  setting multcount to 0
rickma  setting unmaskirq to 0 (off)
rickma  multcount=  0 (off)
rickma  I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
rickma  unmaskirq=  0 (off)
rickma  using_dma=  1 (on)
rickma  keepsettings =  0 (off)
rickma  nowerr   =  0 (off)
rickma  readonly =  0 (off)
rickma  readahead=  8 (on)
rickma  geometry = 3322/255/63, sectors = 53369568, start = 0
rickma 
rickma  Model=Maxtor 92732U8, FwRev=RA530JN0, SerialNo=H8059G4C
rickma  Config={ Fixed }
rickma  RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=57
rickma  BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, 
MultSect=off
rickma  DblWordIO=no, OldPIO=2, DMA=yes, OldDMA=0
rickma  CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=53369568
rickma  tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 mword2 
rickma  IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 
rickma  UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 *mode2 mode3 mode4 
rickma 
rickma timshel# hdparm -t /dev/hda;hdparm -t /dev/hda

Re: FBI's find_ddos

2000-02-11 Thread aphro
i'll tell ya i trust the FBI a lot more for binaries then most other
people's binaries.  i have no doubt that if the FBI distributed some kind
of backdoored binary or something similar there would be hell to pay for
them.  the fbi finally replied to my mail said they forwarded it on to
their technical dept, and they'll contact me again.

nate

On 10 Feb 2000, John Hasler wrote:

john aphro writes:
john  anyways theres some new tool out from the FBI that is supposed to track
john  to see if you got any DoS daemons installed on your machines.
john 
john  and although im 99.9% sure i have none i figured i'd try itout to 
see
john  what all it does.
john 
john You actually ran a binary distributed by the FBI?  You did a complete
john reinstall afterward, I hope.
john -- 
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john Elmwood, Wisconsin
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Re: Unidentified subject!

2000-02-11 Thread aphro
what size hd ? that typically happens if:

1) the root partition is not a primary partition
2) the root partition is not marked as bootable/active
3) the root partition exists beyond the 1024-cylinder marker on the drive.

i thought newer versions of LILO were supposed to compensate for the 1024
cylider problem but i have a mandrake 7 machine(very new) and it does the
same gotta boot it from floppy.

nate

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Lars Sander-Green wrote:

lars_i I recently installed the most recent version of the Debian base system 
on an 
lars_i old 486 (with a clean system) from floppy disks. Everything seemed to 
be 
lars_i working fine and the base was installed, but when I tried to boot it 
from 
lars_i the HD it returned only the message LI and then froze. I managed to 
boot 
lars_i from the rescue disk and re-installed because I couldn't figure out the 
lars_i problem. After the second instalation nothing was improved; in fact, 
the 
lars_i rescue disk now returns LI. I have tried three different disks and 
numerous 
lars_i reformats, but the disk refuses to boot. Althoug I'm not sure, the fact 
that 
lars_i the system claimed my root sector was set to read-only and wouldn't let 
me 
lars_i change it to writeable may have something to do with the no-boot from 
the 
lars_i HD, but it doesn't explain the no-boot from the rescue disk. Any help, 
lars_i either to succesfully boot the system or to completely re-install it, 
would 
lars_i be appreciated.
lars_i 
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XFree86 3.3.6 installation problems

2000-02-11 Thread davidturetsky



Following recent posts I got out of my inelegant 
screen with a Ctl-Alt-F1, logged in, copies over the XFree dowloads to a new 
directory "x" and proceeded to install it

When I ran sh/x/postinst.sh, I got: line 33: 223 
Segmentation fault $RUNDIR/bin/mkfontdir $RUNDIR/lib/X11/fonts/misc

It issued the following warnings:

/sbin/ldconfig: warning /usr/lib/libtcpwrapGK.so.1 
is not a symlink

and similarly for so.2 and so.6

When I then tried to run xf86config, I got 
Segmentation fault

Any thoughts?

David


Default /etc/nsswitch.conf in Slink

2000-02-11 Thread Howard Mann

Hi,

I am having trouble with the  /etc/nsswitch.conf file  file.

If you are using Slink, and have not modified this file, would you
please send me a copy of your file.

I am posting this at 2345h Mountain Time, U.S.A. 

Thanks,

Howard Mann.


libc problem in potato

2000-02-11 Thread Aaron Solochek
ok, I was trying to install some stuff, and I got this.

/etc/init.d/devpts.sh: line 63: syntax error: unexpected end of file
dpkg: error processing libc6 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libc6

Does anyone have a good copy of this file they can send me?  hopefully
then dselect will be happy.

-Aaron Solochek
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: 7200 RPM udma33 same speed as 5400 PIO mode 4

2000-02-11 Thread Phillip Deackes
Just throwing in my timings:

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  5.11 seconds = 12.52 MB/sec

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  5.27 seconds = 12.14 MB/sec


/dev/hda:
 multcount=  0 (off)
 I/O support  =  1 (32-bit)
 unmaskirq=  0 (off)
 using_dma=  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 nowerr   =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead=  8 (on)
 geometry = 784/255/63, sectors = 12594960, start = 0

 Model=QUANTUM FIREBALL EX6.4A, FwRev=A0A.0D00, SerialNo=676901422277
 Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
 RawCHS=13328/15/63, TrkSize=32256, SectSize=21298, ECCbytes=4
 BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=418kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
 DblWordIO=no, OldPIO=2, DMA=yes, OldDMA=2
 CurCHS=13328/15/63, CurSects=12594960, LBA=yes, LBAsects=12594960
 tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 mword2 
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 
 UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 *mode2 


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I get a lot of swapping with woody

2000-02-11 Thread Phillip Deackes
After a dist-upgrade a week or so ago I have found that on starting
Gnome I get 5% of my swapfile used and the percentage increases slowly
to about 15% within half an hour or so.

I have 128MB SDRAM and am using an AMD K6-II 500 CPU. I wouldn't have
expected the swap-file to have been used so quickly. Is it a bug? It
wasn't like this when I was using potato. 

BTW I last did an upgrade last night - similar result.


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RE: oracle 8i

2000-02-11 Thread Onno
At 09:35 AM 2/10/00 -0800, debian wrote:
I have oracle 8i running under potato 2.2.14.

The installer required JRE which I had to get from elsewhere(not dselect).
Additiontally the installer required you to install under X (visually java).

But It runs great!

What JRE did you use? (and ofcourse from where ;-)

Regards,

Onno


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+= To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
+= Subject: oracle 8i
+= 
+= 
+= Hi!
+= 
+=   Does anybody has instaled oracle 8i ee in debian? I'd 
+= really prefer to
+= install it in debian, but the docs talk about redhat only, 
+= and I'm a bit
+= afraid of installing a production oracle on debian. I've 
+= already tried
+= for development and tests, and had some problems (with awk 
+= and gmake),
+= both solved. Does anybody has had other problems?
+=   thanks for any comments,
+= 
+= Tiago
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Re: Check This Out!

2000-02-11 Thread Onno
At 08:48 AM 2/10/00 -0800, Carl Johnson wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I recently joined AllAdvantage.com, a great new Internet company
 that pays its members to surf the Web! AllAdvantage.com even pays me when my 
 friends are surfing,
 which is why I'm sending this message to you!
[snip]

Who is going to be the first to tell him that this mailing list
charges $1000 for advertising?

Maybe the whole debian-user list should mail him back personely ;-)
Lets see what happens...

Regards,

Onno




Re: libc problem in potato

2000-02-11 Thread Bruce Sass
It is a known problem.  There is a { that should be a } in one of
the short functions near the start of the devpts.sh script, you can
correct it with your favorite editor.  Check the debian-user archives if
you need more info. 

--
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Aaron Solochek wrote:

 ok, I was trying to install some stuff, and I got this.
 
 /etc/init.d/devpts.sh: line 63: syntax error: unexpected end of file
 dpkg: error processing libc6 (--configure):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  libc6
 
 Does anyone have a good copy of this file they can send me?  hopefully
 then dselect will be happy.


Re: Why? mktime() failed unexpectedly (rc -1). Aborting.

2000-02-11 Thread David Teague
Carl:

I set the date in the BIOS directly, now all that stuff, appartenly
icluding mktime, all seem to WORK! Many thanks! 

David

On 10 Feb 2000, Carl Johnson wrote:

 David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Kevin and Nate:
  
  Thanks for the suggestions. I'll live with the problem
  until I can find time to upgrade to Potato, rather than 
  mess with  fixing dependencies or looking for a board. 
  
  Upgrading is easy enough, I just did it 2 weeks ago on 
  my main machines. Besides, I have all my data backed up on 
  tape, so even if I wind up needing to wipeand reistall, 
  I'll be OK.
  
  Meanwhile, I'll look for the RTC board that Nate mentioned
  in his message. I need a couple of them at least, as I have
  4 machines that have this problem.
  
  Again thanks, this is why I choose Debian- the help is
  quick, freely given and almost _always_ works.
 
 Just in case...  Have you tried re-booting and manually setting the
 year from the BIOS menu?  I had the same problem on an old portable
 computer and it worked for me.
 
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[no subject]

2000-02-11 Thread kberisso
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RAID

2000-02-11 Thread webmaster
Hi there,

does anybody know what better do use for making a RAID-1 Mirror with
V2.1.9 kernel 2.0.36: 

mdutils

- or -

raidtools

Thanks in advance,

Uwe H. Kueke


Re: Unidentified subject!

2000-02-11 Thread Johan Ur Riise
On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 04:58:33AM +, Lars Sander-Green wrote:
 I installed the latest version of the base Debian system on an old 486 today 
 (clean system). The installation seemed to work fine, but when I tried to 
 boot from the hard disk, the letters LI appeared and the system froze. I 
[...]
From file:/usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz:

LI The first stage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot 
 loader, but has failed to execute it. This can either be caused by a 
 geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map 
 installer. 

The map installer is the lilo command you run under linux.
The description of the 1024-cylinder problem is also in
that documentation file.

Johan Ur Riise


Re: [PADS] The Corel LINUX Install Process: Under the Hood

2000-02-11 Thread CHAN Kin Poon
Greetings to all,
I'm facing many problems installing Corel Linux.  Would really appreciate it
very much if the notes from the meeting be posted in this forum.  Thanks in
advance.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 11:24 AM
Subject: [PADS] The Corel LINUX Install Process: Under the Hood


 The Philadelphia Area Debian Society (PADS)
  (http://www.CJFearnley.com/pads/)

  presents

   The Corel LINUX Install Process: Under the Hood

When:
   Wednesday 16 February 2000, 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM

Speaker:
   LeRoy Cressy, Senior Installation Technician, LinuxForce Inc.

Where:
   IQ Group, 6th floor (its the room with a big Q on the door)
   325 Chestnut Street
   Philadelphia, PA

Abstract

Corel LINUX is the easiest Linux distribution to install ... except
when
it doesn't. Corel's install depends on an XFree86 3.3.5 supported video
card and a CD-ROM drive. We will examine techniques to install Corel
LINUX on systems without such amenities. Finally, we will discuss
procedures for converting an existing Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 system into
a
Corel LINUX system.

Social Dinner

Attendees are invited to gather for dinner prior to the meeting at 6:30
PM at Xando, 325 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia, PA. Please RSVP so we
can
get an appropriate sized table.

 --
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RE: ftp, inetd.conf, potato

2000-02-11 Thread Lewis, James M.

I seem to recall that lots of services were broken out into
their own packages.  ftpd was one of those.  There are at
least 3 different ftpd packages.  Just pick one and install
it.  rsh-client, rsh-server and others were in that group
also.  The list of what got broken out into separate packages
might be in the doc for the new netstd..??

jim


 on my slink machines it is netstd, not sure about potato. :
 
 nate
 
 On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Karl M Yerkes wrote:
 
 kmyerk Sure enough ftp points to /usr/sbin/in.ftpd which does not exist.
 what
 kmyerk package has in.tftpd and in.ftpd ?
 kmyerk 
 kmyerk 
 kmyerk --karl yerkes
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Re: pronunciation of daemon

2000-02-11 Thread Junichi Uekawa
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:52:35 -0800 (PST), George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] was 
crying out from somewhere
  about: Re: pronunciation of daemon

grep  can download the recording of him saying it from sunsite.
grep  The same applies to Linux.
grep 
grep No, Hammish. I have heard Linus pronounce Linux several times from only a
grep few feet away. He has said it Lin-ux (lin-ucks) and sometimes lin-icks but
grep always with the short i sound, not the long e or long i whenever I have
grep heard him say it.

I've listened to the wav file too, but in my country everyone says it is
rinakkusu and it is spelled thus  ;(


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CONVERTING EFAX FILES TO WORD FILES

2000-02-11 Thread Otero, Arnaldo
WHERE CAN I FIND SUCH AN ANIMAL???...OT


Re: pronunciation of daemon

2000-02-11 Thread hawk

brian belabored,


 People with Asian names
 usually just give up and adopt a new name because the pronunciation of
 their given name was impossible for non-Asians to reproduce.  

:)  Living in graduate student housing, I was stunned to find (after 
more than a year) that my friend whose name I couldn't pronounce (and 
hence remember) who'd moved in to the next building over and the 
Steve my wife talked about were the same person . . .

(Just as
 the stereotypical Asian confuses 'l' and 'r', non-Asians can't hear the
 difference in Asian syllables... they no doubt laugh at us for the same
 sort of thing.)

There was a hysterical commercial when Isuzu first started selling in 
the U.S.  The narrator approached Americans and asked them to say 
Isuzu, at which they invariably failed.  At the end, he faced the 
camera and told us, Don't feel bad.  We can't say Chevroway, either.


 I actually vary on 'daemon'.  I use the 'day-mon' pronunciation most of
 the time, and 'demon' when I want to annoy people.  (Works wonders!)

gee, [*whistles innocently*], now *I* would never do something just to 
annoy anyone [*glances around for the lightning*]


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Re: [PADS] The Corel LINUX Install Process: Under the Hood

2000-02-11 Thread Patrick Kirk
Gosh - I just asked him to limit local interest stories to a local mailing
list:-(

 Is Corel now to be supported by this mailinglist?  I hope so in some ways
because it is a superb installer and by supporting the Corel newbies we can
help Linux and the GNU message.

Patrick
- Original Message -
From: CHAN Kin Poon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-devel@lists.debian.org;
debian-user@lists.debian.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [PADS] The Corel LINUX Install Process: Under the Hood


 Greetings to all,
 I'm facing many problems installing Corel Linux.  Would really appreciate
it
 very much if the notes from the meeting be posted in this forum.  Thanks
in
 advance.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org;
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 11:24 AM
 Subject: [PADS] The Corel LINUX Install Process: Under the Hood


  The Philadelphia Area Debian Society (PADS)
   (http://www.CJFearnley.com/pads/)
 
   presents
 
The Corel LINUX Install Process: Under the Hood
 
 When:
Wednesday 16 February 2000, 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM
 
 Speaker:
LeRoy Cressy, Senior Installation Technician, LinuxForce Inc.
 
 Where:
IQ Group, 6th floor (its the room with a big Q on the door)
325 Chestnut Street
Philadelphia, PA
 
 Abstract
 
 Corel LINUX is the easiest Linux distribution to install ... except
 when
 it doesn't. Corel's install depends on an XFree86 3.3.5 supported
video
 card and a CD-ROM drive. We will examine techniques to install Corel
 LINUX on systems without such amenities. Finally, we will discuss
 procedures for converting an existing Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 system
into
 a
 Corel LINUX system.
 
 Social Dinner
 
 Attendees are invited to gather for dinner prior to the meeting at
6:30
 PM at Xando, 325 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia, PA. Please RSVP so we
 can
 get an appropriate sized table.
 
  --
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 Dare to be Naïve -- Bucky Fuller
 
 
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Re: pronunciation of daemon

2000-02-11 Thread Patrick Kirk


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 Junichi Uekawa, a.k.a. dancer
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Doshisha University.
 ... I pronounce Linux as [Day-bee-enne]

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Fw: Mail sent to PLUG

2000-02-11 Thread Patrick Kirk
Oh come on! - this adds insult to injury.

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Subject: Mail sent to PLUG


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 Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
 
 The reason it is being held:
 
 Postings from member addresses only.
 
 Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
 notification of the moderator's decision.
 


Re: pronunciation of daemon

2000-02-11 Thread mheyes


ahhh, it's humour I believe:

Day-bee-enne is spelled GNU/Debian.

cheers








Patrick Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/11/2000 09:51:09 AM

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cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org (bcc: Mike
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Subject:  Re: pronunciation of daemon






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Re: Opera

2000-02-11 Thread m_shapiro
On 06-Feb-00 Johann Spies wrote:
 
 I have tried opera but I am not impressed by it.  I have trouble to read
 local files using it and it just fails on some web sites
 eg. http://24.com (which I can browse easily with netscape and even
 mozilla).

Opera certainly does require X.  Check the Opera site at http://www.opera.com.

Also note that Opera for Linux is still, basically, an alpha release, although
they call it something the Opera people admit that.  They specifically say that
it is not currently able to reliably handle local files.  This is rough
software with quite a way to go before it reaches Prime Time.  I have not used
the Linux version, although I did use the Windows version for a while.  I was
not really impressed with the Windows version, but I will try the Linux version
when it is ready.  I would love to be able to uninstall Netscape, libc5 and
everything else that is taking up space on my HD that is only there to support
Netscape.


Marc Shapiro http://www.bigfoot.com/~m_shapiro/
 -- Linux IS user-friendly.  It is just picky about who its friends are.



Re: help

2000-02-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 09:25:54PM -0500, Dennis Howard wrote:
: I am trying to install Debian Linux onto one of my computers.  This one is
: an Intel 486DX-33 with 8MB ram and 170 MB harddrive. I am using an ALI vga
: video card ( I also tried an ATI vga card).
: When I boot it using the rescue disk, it starts, loads root.bin, loads
: linus, uncompresses linux and boots the kernel. A page of cryptic info comes
: on the screen and the last line reads
: 
: 'checking hit instruction',
: 
:  then the screen goes blank and the system reboots. This happens booting
: from floppy and from hard drive using Loadlin.
: The floppy boots my pentium no problen and the installation procedure
: starts.
: Anybody know what the problem might be when it is 'checking hit
: instruction'?

From the BootPrompt HOWTO (I found mine at
http://debian.midco.net/doc/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.5):

| The `no-hlt' Argument
| 
| The i386 (and successors thereof) family of CPUs have a `hlt'
| instruction which tells the CPU that nothing is going to happen until
| an external device (keyboard, modem, disk, etc.) calls upon the CPU to
| do a task. This allows the CPU to enter a `low-power' mode where it
| sits like a zombie until an external device wakes it up (usually via
| an interrupt). Some of the early i486DX-100 chips had a problem
| with the `hlt' instruction, in that they couldn't reliably return to
| operating mode after this instruction was used. Using the `no-hlt'
| instruction tells Linux to just run an infinite loop when there is
| nothing else
| to do, and to not halt your CPU when there is no activity. This allows
| people with these broken chips to use Linux, although they would be
| well advised to seek a replacement through a warranty where
| possible.

So, I'd try linux no-hlt at the syslinux prompt and see how that
goes.

Cheers,

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Re: Check This Out!

2000-02-11 Thread Junichi Uekawa
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:33:03 +0100, Onno [EMAIL PROTECTED] was crying out 
from somewhere
  about: Re: Check This Out!

Onno 
Onno   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Onno SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data:
Onno host mx1.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.249]:
Onno 552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try again 
later.
Onno Maybe donald19m now?
Onno 

Or is it the DoS attack they were talking about?

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RE: Install problem

2000-02-11 Thread Owens, Jerry
I have been able to get past my previous problems with
the base system loading. Now when I reboot the machine and it starts to
load the packages, it doesn't like the fact that they ate stored on a
dos drive which limits the file names to 8 characters. Is there any way
to get around this?

Jerry

-Original Message-
From:   David Wright
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Sent:   Thursday, February 10, 2000
12:19 PM
To: Owens, Jerry
Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
Subject:Re: Install problem

Quoting Owens, Jerry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   e.g. (untested)
 
   cp
path-to-your-file/base2_1.tgz .
   gunzip base2_1.tgz
   ls
   I tried to unzip it
using gunzip on the VC2
 console and it said gunzip not found. I was
able to open it with WinZip
 from windows and it looked fine. It would also
let me unzip it.

My mistake. Before the contents of base2_1.tgz
are available,
the commands are pretty limited. You might try

zcat  path-to-your-file/base2_1.tgz  /dev/null

which means you don't have to copy the file, of
course.

Your mail client seems to be seriously broken
when quoting, BTW:

   (Copying it prevents you
altering the original.
 IIRC at this
   stage . is / so it
doesn't matter if you add a
 tarfile.)
 
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Re: Check This Out!

2000-02-11 Thread webmaster
 Onno   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Onno SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data:
 Onno host mx1.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.249]:
 Onno 552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try again 
 later.
means that your disk space is full -^
maybe you delete old files from your mailbox?

Uwe


[*}How to install LyX

2000-02-11 Thread debian_hurd
hello everybody;

i had try to install LyX from my Debian CDs, use deselect, deselect told me 
LyX need 
libforms.so.0.88, but i can't not find this in my Debian CDS.I have two 
Debian CDs, 
one is :Debian GNU/Linux slink (2.1_r4) 1/4 main binary-i386 section 1 
SAM19991218
the other is Debian GNU/Linux slink (2.1_r4) 2/4 main binary-i386 section 2, 
contrib 
SAM19991218.When i use deselect, it report without non_free,non_USA,and 
local.

any advice?
thany you very much.

maths
2000.2.12


[*] about ldconfig

2000-02-11 Thread debian_hurd
hello everybody;

when i executd ldconfig, it give me lots of warings,about *** is not symlink, 
what do
these mean? and what can i do?

thank you very much
maths
2000.2,21


[*] how to install LyX

2000-02-11 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D5=C5=CF=FE=C0=DA
debian-userhello everybody;

i had try to install LyX from my Debian CDs, use deselect, deselect told me 
LyX need 
libforms.so.0.88, but i can't not find this in my Debian CDS.I have two 
Debian CDs, 
one is :Debian GNU/Linux slink (2.1_r4) 1/4 main binary-i386 section 1 
SAM19991218
the other is Debian GNU/Linux slink (2.1_r4) 2/4 main binary-i386 section 2, 
contrib 
SAM19991218.When i use deselect, it report without non_free,non_USA,and 
local.

any advice?
thany you very much.

maths
2000.2.12 


[*] aabout ldconfig

2000-02-11 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D5=C5=CF=FE=C0=DA
debian-userhello everybody;

when i executd ldconfig, it give me lots of warings,about *** is not symlink, 
what do
these mean? and what can i do?

thank you very much
maths
2000.2,21


Mouse has a mind of its own...

2000-02-11 Thread Rajesh Radhakrishnan
Hi,

I just installed Debian 2.2 (freeze). Everything is fine except the
mouse which is moving very haphazardly ie. it moves very fast and
doesn't go beyond the bottom of the screen.

I can't use xmseconfig as I can't use the mouse on that window. 

Any suggestions
Thanks in advance
Rajesh


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Re: [*}How to install LyX

2000-02-11 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, debian_hurd wrote:

 hello everybody;
 
 i had try to install LyX from my Debian CDs, use deselect, deselect told me 
 LyX need 
 libforms.so.0.88, but i can't not find this in my Debian CDS.I have two 
 Debian CDs, 
 one is :Debian GNU/Linux slink (2.1_r4) 1/4 main binary-i386 section 1 
 SAM19991218
 the other is Debian GNU/Linux slink (2.1_r4) 2/4 main binary-i386 section 2, 
 contrib 
 SAM19991218.When i use deselect, it report without non_free,non_USA,and 
 local.
 
 any advice?
 thany you very much.

Your CD does not include the non_free section. The libforms-0.88 package
is in non-free. If you have an internet connection, then you can get the
packages either automatically with apt (or dselect), or manually by ftp.

To use apt, you'll need to have an appropriate sources list
(/etc/apt/sources.list), e.g.

  long:syrus$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
  deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian slink main contrib non-free
  deb http://conan.eecg.toronto.edu/debian slink non-US
  deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/proposed-updates/

If you use apt, installing lyx will be as simple as editing your
sources.list file, and then using a command like this:

root$ apt-get update ; apt-get install lyx

apt should take care of all the dependencies.

Thanks. Syrus.

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Re: [OT] FBI's find_ddos

2000-02-11 Thread John Hasler
aphro writes:
 i'll tell ya i trust the FBI a lot more for binaries then most other
 people's binaries.

They're your computers.

 i have no doubt that if the FBI distributed some kind of backdoored
 binary or something similar there would be hell to pay for them.

They'd claim 'hackers' did it, or that it was the action of a single
overzealous employee.  If necessary a scapegoat would be fired.  The
consequences would be negligible compared to what would befall a business
in a similar circumstance.  Besides, the FBI has a history of bad
judgement.

Then, of course, there is the possibility that the NSA 'aided' the FBI in
this matter...
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin


More questions about APT and distribuitions... [Was: Re: Xwindows in Sparc Station 5?]

2000-02-11 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Aaron Solochek wrote:

 Potato is newer.
 You want to get potato.
 edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
  so that it contains only the lines
 
 deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
 deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato non-US/main non-US/contrib 
 non-US/non-free
 
 Comment out any other deb lines.
 
 then as, root,
 
 apt-get update
 apt-get install apt debconf
 apt-get dist-upgrade

Misters, why the newlly (i suppose) stable 'potato' dist did not
get pointed by the 'stable' symbolic link? Any good razon for it?

Thank you all for the precious help.

[]'z

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Luis Campos de Carvalho
   System Administrator at ECB -- Escola Paulista de Medicina

 You can surrender without a pray. 
  But never really pray without surrender.
  You can fight without ever winning. 
  But never ever win without a fight. 
   -- Neil Peart, Resist, Test for Echo, 1998.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


Install problem

2000-02-11 Thread Charles O. Hartman
(would-be new user!)

Having found that dselect wouldn't work right for me (it marks packages
for installation but never actually installs many of them), I've been
doing it by hand with dpkg. I have found that these two package files
g++_2.91.66-0slink2.deb
libstdc++2.9-dev_2.91.66-0slink0.deb
install OK but won't configure; and each of them announces that the
problem is that it depends on the other. I have to be doing something
wrong, but I can't find it. I don't see any other versions of either the
libstdc++2.9-dev or the g++ package.

Charles Hartman


Re: More questions about APT and distribuitions... [Was: Re: Xwindows in Sparc Station 5?]

2000-02-11 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 02:12:33PM -0200, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Aaron Solochek wrote:
 
  Potato is newer.
  You want to get potato.
  edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
   so that it contains only the lines
  
  deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
  deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato non-US/main 
  non-US/contrib non-US/non-free
  
  Comment out any other deb lines.
  
  then as, root,
  
  apt-get update
  apt-get install apt debconf
  apt-get dist-upgrade
 
   Misters, why the newlly (i suppose) stable 'potato' dist did not
 get pointed by the 'stable' symbolic link? Any good razon for it?

Because potato is not stable yet. It is still frozen, which means it
is preparing for release (stable).

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Re: Install problem

2000-02-11 Thread David Wright
Quoting Charles O. Hartman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 (would-be new user!)
 
 Having found that dselect wouldn't work right for me (it marks packages
 for installation but never actually installs many of them), I've been
 doing it by hand with dpkg. I have found that these two package files
   g++_2.91.66-0slink2.deb
   libstdc++2.9-dev_2.91.66-0slink0.deb
 install OK but won't configure; and each of them announces that the
 problem is that it depends on the other.

dpkg -i g++_2.91.66-0slink2.deb libstdc++2.9-dev_2.91.66-0slink0.deb
(wildcards work as well).

Cheers,

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Disclaimer:   These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify
official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.


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