Re: Segundo canal RDSI

2000-05-01 Thread Ignacio Arenaza
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 Angel == Angel Vicente Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Angel Hola...  Sospecho que mi proveedor (iddeo) no utiliza
Angel negociacion MPPP, necesaria para enganchar el segundo canal
Angel RDSI, por esto que veo en el ppp.log

Angel MPPP negotiation He: No We: No

Efectivamente, tu proveedor no soporta MPPP (al menos no segun tus
logs). Generalmente hay que contratarlo de forma explicita, sino no
suele estar disponible.

Saludos. Iñaki.

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Re: por favor urgente RDSI

2000-05-01 Thread Ignacio Arenaza
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Juanma Pues que llama al ISP pero no consigue conectar.  Y es que
Juanma miro en /var/log/messages y en una linea dice
Juanma ipppd:info:no CHAP secret entry for this user

Echa una ojeada al fichero /etc/isdn/ipppd.ippp0, y asegurate de que
tienes puesto:

user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
name [EMAIL PROTECTED]

En algunas versiones de ipppd si no pones ambos (con el mismo nombre
de usuario) no es capaz de encontrar el usuario en el fichero
chap-secrets.

Saludos. Iñaki.

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Re: RDSI con PPP asincrono

2000-05-01 Thread Ignacio Arenaza
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 Juanma == Juanma  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Juanma Bueno, despues de mucho pelear con la RDSI va y me dicen
Juanma que la conexión PPP es asíncrona. Y como he estado
Juanma utilizando las isdn4 utils, pues que no deben servir.

Joder, no me digas que los capullos de Euskaltel usan PPP asincrono
con RDSI. Menudas pelotas

Juanma Voy, pruebo con los scripts de Arenaza (son los unicos que
Juanma tengo) y me ocurre esto:

Esto, añade la opcion debug a tu ficheros de opciones
/etc/ppp/peers/provider, ya que la causa por la que cuelga el
adaptador RDSI no aparece en los logs que has enviado, y es la clave
de todo el asunto.

Juanma Debo comentar que el mensaje modprobe: can't locate module
Juanma char-major-108 me lo da en mi ordenata de casa pero aun
Juanma así me conecta a internet (yo tengo un modem normal).

Huum! El char-major-108 es segun /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt: 


  108 char  Device independent PPP interface
0 = /dev/ppp  Device independent PPP interface

Es decir, la interfaz ppp independiente de dispositivo. No se porque
pero sospecho que es un componente fundamental para que rule todo el
asunto. O te has dejado sin compilar el soporte para PPP en el nucleo,
o no esta encontrando el modulo (si lo has compilado como modulo). En
cualquier caso es imprescindible.

Saludos. Iñaki.

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Re: Filosofia de Debian.

2000-05-01 Thread Antonio Castro
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Miquel wrote:

 El sáb, abr 29, 2000 at 09:02:15 +0200 Antonio Castro va dir:
 
  Creo que cada vez es m?s necessario que aparezca una nueva distribuci?n
  100% libre de Linux que se apoye en el trabajo realizado por Debian y
  que cubra los espacios que a Debian no le interesan. Est? muy claro que
 
 [...]
 
  Una distribuci?n basada en Debian 100% libre y enfocada a su facilidad
  de uso e instalaci?n arrasar?a completamente. Incluso ser?a un negocio
  increible si alguien decidiera hacerlo en plan negocio.
 
 es lo que están tratando de hacer los de Storm y creo que van por el
 buen camino (el interfaz gráfico de instalación es muy bueno y todo bajo
 la GPL)... Y los de Citius tampoco lo hacen nada mal. Lo que creo que sí

No conozco Storm aunque he oido hablar bien,  pero ... su interfaz gráfico 
es suficientemente GPL como para que Debian pudiera inncluirlo en su
distribución ? Es una pregunta obligada porque lo de desarrollar en GPL 
tiene estas cosillas. En caso afirmativo existe alguna intención de 
hacerlo ?  

 que falta es alguna empresa que se arriesgue a planchar y distribuir
 CD's de la versión inestable, como al parecer hacen en algunas partes de
 Europa, quizá eso arreglaría el problema al menos de quienes no pueden
 actualizarse vía ftp por culpa de las tarifas telefonicas y la lentitud
 de las líneas en España y otras partes.

Las versiones inestables suelen interesar a mucha menos gente que las
estables. Ademas el tipo de gente interesada en las versiones inestables
son los que les gusta cacharrear y suelen tener buena conexión. Por otra
parte confeccionar una distribución aunque sea inestable supone una
responsabilidad porque si se va a vender algo debería estar en las
megores condiciones posibles. Otra cosa sería ofrecerlo como un
conjunto de paquetes bajados por ftp como si de un mirror se tratara.

 un saludo,
 
 miquel

Saludos

Antonio

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tostando cds

2000-05-01 Thread Blu
Amigos,

Estoy recien empezando en esto de tostar cds. He estado tratando haciendo 
algunas pruebas con un cd regrabable. Los pasos de grabacion parecen ir de lo
mas bien, se enciende el led del laser y todo, pero cuando trato de leer el
cd, nada de nada.

Tengo una hp 7200 externa, conectada a la paralela. Lo ultimo que hice fue
copiar un cd de audio. Primero extraje las pistas al disco duro y luego
las pase a un cd regrabable (para no gastar tanto arruinando cds virgenes).
Luego, al ponerlo en un cdplayer o en el lector de cd, algo antiguo debo decir,
me alega que no hay ningun disco. Lo extra~o
es que si extraigo las pistas del cd tostado, con el mismo metodo que use en el 
original, o sea usando la tostadora, funciona de lo mas bien, y suena la 
musica al pasarlo por la tarjeta.

La pregunta es, tienen algun problema los cdplayers o lectores antiguos con
los cds regrabables?. Antes de ponerme a quemar cds virgenes me gustaria saber
si a lo mejor a eso se debe al presente fracaso.

Gracias por la ayuda.

Blu.


Re: compilar archivo *.c

2000-05-01 Thread Jose Luis Trivino
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 Tengo delante mio unos archivos en C que tengo que compilar, el caso es que ya
 envie un mail hace un tiempo preguntando lo mismo, pero lo borre y ya no me
 acuerdo. Bueno, si alguien sabe como se hace le agradeceria que me lo dijera.
El compilador de C/C++ se llama gcc en linux. Solo tienes que teclear
gcc fichero.c y se compilará. Pero esto solo te funcionará si el
programa está formado sólo por un fichero .c. Si, como es normal, el
programa está formado por muchos ficheros en C entonces la cosa se
complica. 
En este caso puedes probar a ejecutar el comando make (si hay un
makefile en el directorio te funcionará). Si esto no funciona puedes
compilar cada fichero por separado con la orden ggc -o fichero.o
fichero.c y despues linkarlos todos con la orden gcc -o
fichero_ejecutable fichero1.o fichero2.o ...

Hasta más bits, 

 El tonto es aquel que dice tonterias, aunque los hay que sin decirlas ya lo 
 son.
Espero que esto no sea una indirecta a los que escribimos en la lista
;-)

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Re: gvim

2000-05-01 Thread Isaac Puch Rojo
Danito wrote:

 ¿Has probado a escribir export LC_ALL=es_ES desde el terminal
 que ejecutas el gvim? ¿Puedes utilizar acentos en el resto de los programas
 de las X?
  ¿Existe algún manual sobre el programa en castellano? Gracias de
  antemano.
 A mi me da que no


Gracias, pero no funciona, en principio la variable es_ES está, porque
puedo escribir la ñ en el gvim. Y en los demás programas puedo escribir
la ñ y los acentos correctamente. Solo tengo el problema de los acentos
en el gvim, que en principio no ejecuto desde el mismo kde. Gracias de
todos modos, seguiré intentándolo. 

Isaac Puch Rojo.

PD. Por casualidad visite la página de Santiago Romero que nos sugería
en uno de sus múltiples emilios, y encontré un tutorial sobre vim en
castellano.



Re: wterm y vim

2000-05-01 Thread Jaime E. Villate
Isaac Puch Rojo wrote:
 ...recomienda el uso del terminal wterm ... Mi pregunta es.
 ¿Dónde puedo conseguir ese terminal? ¿O en qué paquete viene?

Si usas el siguiente comando: apt-cache show wterm te aparece la
respuesta a tus preguntas:

  Package: wterm
  Version: 6.2.6-8
  Priority: optional
  Section: x11
  Maintainer: Mark Triggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Depends: libc6 (= 2.1), libxpm4, xlib6g (= 3.3.5)
  Provides: x-terminal-emulator
  Architecture: i386
  Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/wterm_6.2.6-8.deb
  Size: 45534
  MD5sum: 83729364a106e9e7457ec4dd01534500
  Description: An rxvt based, color xterm replacement.
  Wterm is an rxvt based, 8-bit clean, color, xterm replacement. It
  contains features such as transparency, reverse transparency,
  background images, nice looking NeXT style scrollbars and is very
  customisable.

  Wterm is optimised for use under WindowMaker 0.50.x and up.
  installed-size: 106

Saludos, y gracias por el dato pues no sabia que existia wterm.

Jaime Villate


Re: Sobre Webalizer

2000-05-01 Thread Jaime E. Villate
  El analog que hace algo semejante al webalizer hace exactamente eso.
  Si se le dá una opción crea un fichero con direcciones ya resueltas y
  las que no estén ahí intenta resolverlas.
 Gracias
 Me pudieras decir que opcion es la que crea este fichero log
 resuelto, si es  posible con un pequeño ejemplo

Necesitas usar la opción DNSFILE dnsfile.txt en el fichero de
configuración, o si quieres darle esa opción en la línea de comandos
usas algo así:  analog +CDNSFILE dnsfile.txt ...
La primera vez se quejará de que el fichero dnsfile.txt no existe,
pero lo creará en /var/lib/analog/dnsfile.txt

Si quieres leer mas sobre el tema, consulta:
http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/analog/docs/dns.html

Jaime Villate


Re: tostando cds

2000-05-01 Thread Pookie
Por el sistema que se usa al almacenar los datos en un cd regrabable, ya que
lo que se hace es ligeramente distinto que cuando se graba un cd normal, los
lectores mas antiguos no reconocen los discos regrabables, asi que
seguramente sera eso. De todas formas, para asegurarte, mas vale que
intentes reproducir el cd  con la grabadora, ya que mencionas que extraes
los wav,,pero no que hayas probado a reproducirlo (p.ej. con el cdtools)

- Original Message -
From: Blu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 11:43 AM
Subject: tostando cds


 Amigos,

 Estoy recien empezando en esto de tostar cds. He estado tratando haciendo
 algunas pruebas con un cd regrabable. Los pasos de grabacion parecen ir de
lo
 mas bien, se enciende el led del laser y todo, pero cuando trato de leer
el
 cd, nada de nada.

 Tengo una hp 7200 externa, conectada a la paralela. Lo ultimo que hice fue
 copiar un cd de audio. Primero extraje las pistas al disco duro y luego
 las pase a un cd regrabable (para no gastar tanto arruinando cds
virgenes).
 Luego, al ponerlo en un cdplayer o en el lector de cd, algo antiguo debo
decir,
 me alega que no hay ningun disco. Lo extra~o
 es que si extraigo las pistas del cd tostado, con el mismo metodo que use
en el
 original, o sea usando la tostadora, funciona de lo mas bien, y suena la
 musica al pasarlo por la tarjeta.

 La pregunta es, tienen algun problema los cdplayers o lectores antiguos
con
 los cds regrabables?. Antes de ponerme a quemar cds virgenes me gustaria
saber
 si a lo mejor a eso se debe al presente fracaso.

 Gracias por la ayuda.

 Blu.


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Re: binarios kien los kiere?

2000-05-01 Thread Javier Fafián Alvarez
On 28 Apr 2000, David Muriel wrote:

 Puede que sea algo así:
 $ apt-get --compile source paquete
 $ dpkg -i paquete_recien_compilado.deb
Lo Ves ? :-)))

Saludos !

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Con  Linux Debian Potato (frozen) kernel 2.2.14



Re: imágenes ISO Debian y otros

2000-05-01 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 12:47:49PM +0200, Fernando Sanchez wrote:
 Hola,
 desde esta mañana hemos puesto disponibles imágenes ISO de Debian
 Slink, pre-Potato y pre-Woody, además de otras cuantas (mandrake, caldera,
 conectiva, corel, suse, turbolinux, etc.)

Wow!! Che, nadie vigilaba el stand de Seagate en la LinuxExpo, eh?
Mira que te conozco :P

 rsync://ceu.fi.udc.es::cd-images/
 ftp://ceu.fi.udc.es/os/linux/cd-images/
 http://ceu.fi.udc.es/ftp/os/linux/cd-images/
 
 Las imágenes de Debian Potato y Woody, son, por supuesto, no-oficiales. Las
 de Woody son sólo ficheros, no son bootables.

Joder, imagenes de Woody, sois unos fieras... ala, a comprar más CDs... GPUL
me sale caro... :)

Gracias!

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services

2000-05-01 Thread Danito
Estoy conectado a traves de cable con internet(RETECAL).
Y nos cortan los puertos concretamente los de ftp y telnet, aunque no 
se si nos cortan más puertos.

Lo que he probado para acceder por telnet desde el exterior
es añadir la linea a services

telnet 1024/tcp

Pero no me funciona porque cuando hago telnet mimaquina 1024
obtengo
Trying 127.0.0.1
Connected to mimaquina
Escape character is '^]'.

sin llegar a conectar. Mientras que si escribo in.telnetd -d 1025 funciona
y puedo conectar perfectamente con mi máquina.

Otra cosa ¿como le digo al cliente ftp que puerto utilizar?

Gracias por adelantado.


Re: gvim

2000-05-01 Thread Santiago Romero
El dom, 30 de abr de 2000, a las 10:58:58 +0200, Isaac Puch Rojo dijo:

 PD. Por casualidad visite la página de Santiago Romero que nos sugería
 en uno de sus múltiples emilios, y encontré un tutorial sobre vim en
 castellano.

 Pues tengo una pagina AUN mas completa:

  http://www.ctv.es/USERS/sromero 

 Esa si que esta llenita (50.000 visitantes en un año la avalan :)
 salu2!

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Re: wterm y vim

2000-05-01 Thread Santiago Romero
El lun, 01 de may de 2000, a las 12:23:12 +0100, Jaime E. Villate dijo:
 Saludos, y gracias por el dato pues no sabia que existia wterm.

 por cierto, wterm ocupa de 5 a 10 veces menos memoria y espacio que
 xterm, konsole y similares, y ademas soporta transparencia y bitmaps
 de fondo... y las teclas van perfectas, asi como los colores (puros).
 simplemente genial.

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Re: wterm y vim

2000-05-01 Thread Santiago Romero
El dom, 30 de abr de 2000, a las 06:30:40 +0200, Isaac Puch Rojo dijo:
 
   Saludos,
 
 Santiago Romero recomendó su página web hace poco, y allí encontré un
 tutorial sobre wim estupendo. Que es lo que andaba buscando. Allí
 recomienda el uso del terminal wterm bajo la XWindow, ya que según el
 es el único en el que funciona todo correctamente. Mi pregunta es.
 ¿Dónde puedo conseguir ese terminal? ¿O en qué paquete viene? Gracias
 de antemano.

 bueno, yo uso redhat (si, va en serio) y lo encontré enseguida en 
 rpmfind.net. Prueba a bajarlo y usar alien --to-deb para ver si
 te lo convierte a debian correctamente. Si no, prueba a buscar wterm
 en la celdilla de www.freshmeat.net o en arrakis.linuxberg.com

 salu2!
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Re: wterm y vim

2000-05-01 Thread Hue-Bond
El lunes 01 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 12:23:12 +0100, Jaime E. Villate contaba:

Si usas el siguiente comando: apt-cache show wterm te aparece la
respuesta a tus preguntas:

 Eso no me fulula, y si hago el 'apt-get install' me dice que el
 paquete no existe. El último update fue hace un par de días así que
 no creo que sea de eso...


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Re: services

2000-05-01 Thread Hue-Bond
El lunes 01 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 18:15:14 +0200, Danito contaba:

Otra cosa ¿como le digo al cliente ftp que puerto utilizar?

 Yo uso 'pftp dirección puerto'.


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Re: Diccionario inglés-castellano ?

2000-05-01 Thread Alfredo Casademunt
El Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 12:32:36PM +0200, Santiago Romero dijo:
  sipe el qi2e (espero que te refieras a ese) es la version QT de uno
  llamado i2e que incluye i2e e i2e.sh. mira este ultimo:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] sromero]$ i2e.sh 
 
  i2e.sh [-re] [palabra]
 
  Por defecto i2e.sh traduce del ingles al castellano con una busqueda bruta.
  Con -r traduce del castellano al ingles.
  Con -e hace una busqueda exacta
 
ejemplo:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] sromero]$ i2e.sh -r bicicleta
 
  bicycle : bicicleta
  bike : bicicleta
 
  ¿Donde conseguirlo? En la pagina del autor: (hay paquetes debian :).
 
  http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.htm
 

Y si no lo encuentras ahi mira en:

http://darkd.virtualave.net
:-)

  nos vemos!
  

Un saludo.

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RE: Copiar archivo particion DOS a particion LINUX

2000-05-01 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
At 11:11 AM 2000-04-28 +0200, Diego Bote wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Alvarez, Angel wrote:

 Falto el make dep antes del make bzImage

   Tambien el make clean, si no recuerdo mal.

Na...

apt-get install kernel-package

zless /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz

lo digo de memoria, depronto me equivoco, pero en lo que no
me equivoco es que como make-kpkg no hay dos  :o)



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Re: wterm y vim

2000-05-01 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 09:33:00PM +0200, Hue-Bond wrote:
 El lunes 01 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 12:23:12 +0100, Jaime E. Villate contaba:
 
 Si usas el siguiente comando: apt-cache show wterm te aparece la
 respuesta a tus preguntas:
 
  Eso no me fulula, y si hago el 'apt-get install' me dice que el
  paquete no existe. El último update fue hace un par de días así que
  no creo que sea de eso...

No estoy seguro, pero me suena que esa terminal se quedó en el camino de
potato. Has mirado en Woody?

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Re: services

2000-05-01 Thread Javier Fafián Alvarez
   telnet 1024/tcp
 Trying 127.0.0.1
 Connected to mimaquina
 Escape character is '^]'.
Lo de que tengas puertos capados no va contigo, tu siempre debes poder
conectarte a tu máquina ( solo joderia ), y me parece que el error está en
el inetd, mal configurado, míratelo otra vez.

 Otra cosa ¿como le digo al cliente ftp que puerto utilizar?



Saludos !


Mi numero de firma de Drivers para Linux es:00056845
pasaros por:http://www.libranet.com/petition.html

Javier Fafián Alvarez: Numero de usuario Linux: 175.004
en un AMD-K6II a 350 con 64 Mb de RAM
Con  Linux Debian Potato (frozen) kernel 2.2.14



Re: Diccionario inglés-castellano ?

2000-05-01 Thread Javier Fafián Alvarez
   ¿Donde conseguirlo? En la pagina del autor: (hay paquetes debian :).
  
   http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.htm

Perdón pero la dirección de trivino no existe o almenos yo no puedo
conectarme a ella, y en la otra la versión para consola no la encuentro,
alguna otra dirección ?

Gracias !

Por cierto Gracias a todos los que hicisteis las diferentes versiones del
diccionario, yo lo andaba buscando como agua en le desierto, tanto me
interesa que si necesitais colaboración de cualquier clase ( menos
económica ;) ) ¡ contad conmigo !
Gracias ! Gracias ! Gracias !

Saludos !


Mi numero de firma de Drivers para Linux es:00056845
pasaros por:http://www.libranet.com/petition.html

Javier Fafián Alvarez: Numero de usuario Linux: 175.004
en un AMD-K6II a 350 con 64 Mb de RAM
Con  Linux Debian Potato (frozen) kernel 2.2.14



Re: Filosofia de Debian.

2000-05-01 Thread Antonio Castro
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Javier_Fafi=E1n_Alvarez?= wrote:

 On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Antonio Castro wrote:
  Estoy de acuerdo pero quizas la compresión no deba venir solo de una
  parte. 
 
 Si yo estoy contigo, no me gusta en estos aspectos la filosofian de
 Debian, pero lo que digo es que no la van a cambiar porque no tienen
 ninguna motivación, si de lo que se trata es de hacer otra distribució
 basada en Debian, de acuerdo, y si es rentable me apunto y vamos a medias
 ;)

Yo estoy metido en otro tema y no quiero descentrarme de ello. Están 
surgiendo muchas distribuciones nuevas y casi todas son comerciales.
Me parece imposible que puedan sobrevivir todas pero una distribución
totalmente basada en Debian estaría bien. Por ejemplo la próxima 
distribución de Citius ha tenido el enorme acierto de respetar los CDs 
de la distribución oficial y por ello constará de una parte idéntica 
a la oficial y unos CDs de suplementos con paquetes de non-free, non-us, 
etc. Lo que falta ahora es que alguien desarrolle un entorno de instalación 
y configuración agradable para Debian y que sea 100% libre. Si Debian no 
está interesado y Citius tampoco, podría surgir como un proyecto 
independiente. Al tratarse de software libre el negocio habría que basarlo 
en la oferta de servicios de mantenimiento, formación, etc. Creo que Miguel
de Icaza es un modelo a imitar en muchos aspectos. Le veo capaz de aplastar
dentro de unos años al software propietario.

 Saludos !
 
 Javier Fafián Alvarez 

Saludos

Antonio Castro

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Diferenças nos mapas de teclado

2000-05-01 Thread Edson Yassuo Fugio

Olá pessoal,

Eu testei os mapas do Conectiva (igual ao do
http://lie-br.conectiva.com.br/~iga) e o do Gleyson. Não aparenta haver
diferenças no uso diário, mas eu notei algumas diferenças nos mapas. 
Existem diferenças nos keycode 2, 3, 4, 7, 12, 14, 26, 40, 41 e 121. Não
percebi nenhuma diferença, talvez alterasse algo no uso do emacs, mas é
apenas um palpite.
O mapa da Conectiva tb tem varios Meta_* a mais, há alguma utilidade
para todos esses meta?


-
Mapa Conectiva (na verdade é muito maior)

charset iso-8859-1
keymaps 0-15
keycode   0 =
keycode   1 = Escape   Escape  
alt keycode   1 = Meta_Escape 
keycode   2 = one  exclam   onesuperior exclamdown
alt keycode   2 = Meta_one
alt shift keycode 2 = Meta_exclam
keycode   3 = two  at   twosuperior onehalf
control keycode   3 = nul
control shift keycode 3 = nul 
alt keycode   3 = Meta_two
alt shift keycode 3 = Meta_at
keycode   4 = threenumbersign   threesuperior
threequarters
control keycode   4 = Escape  
alt keycode   4 = Meta_three  
alt shift keycode 4 = Meta_numbersign
keycode   5 = four dollar   pound onequarter
control keycode   5 = Control_backslash
alt keycode   5 = Meta_four  
alt shift keycode 5 = Meta_dollar 
keycode   6 = five percent  cent
control keycode   6 = Control_bracketright
alt keycode   6 = Meta_five  
alt shift keycode 6 = Meta_percent 
keycode   7 = six  dead_diaeresis   notsign diaeresis
alt keycode   7 = Meta_six
keycode   8 = sevenampersandbraceleft   
control keycode   8 = Control_underscore
alt keycode   8 = Meta_seven  
keycode   9 = eightasterisk bracketleft 
control keycode   9 = Delete  
alt keycode   9 = Meta_eight  
keycode  10 = nine parenleftbracketright
alt keycode  10 = Meta_nine   
keycode  11 = zero parenright   braceright  
alt keycode  11 = Meta_zero   
keycode  12 = minusunderscore   backslash
control keycode  12 = Control_underscore
control shift keycode 12 = Control_underscore
alt keycode  12 = Meta_minus  
alt shift keycode 12 = Meta_underscore  
keycode  13 = equalplus section
alt keycode  13 = Meta_equal  
keycode  14 = Delete   Delete  Delete
alt keycode  14 = Meta_Delete
keycode  15 = Tab  Tab 
alt keycode  15 = Meta_Tab
keycode  26 = dead_acute   dead_grave   acutegrave
control keycode  26 = nul 
alt keycode  26 = Meta_apostrophe
alt shift keycode 26 = Meta_grave
keycode  27 = bracketleft  braceleftordfeminine
control keycode  27 = Escape  
alt keycode  27 = Meta_bracketleft
alt shift keycode 27 = Meta_braceleft
keycode  28 = Return  
alt keycode  28 = Meta_Control_m
keycode  29 = Control 
keycode  39 = +ccedilla+Ccedilla
keycode  40 = dead_tilde  dead_circumflex   asciitilde  
asciicircum
control keycode  40 = nul
control shift keycode  40 = Control_asciicircum
alt keycode  40 = Meta_asciicircum
keycode  41 = apostrophe   quotedbl
control keycode  41 = Control_g
alt keycode  41 = Meta_apostrophe
alt shift keycode 41 = Meta_quotedbl
keycode  42 = Shift
keycode  43 = bracketright braceright   masculine
control keycode  43 = Control_bracketright
alt keycode  43 = Meta_bracketright
alt shift keycode 43 = Meta_braceright
keycode  51 = commaless
alt keycode  51 = Meta_comma  
alt shift keycode 51 = Meta_less
altgr shift keycode 51 = guillemotleft
keycode  52 = period   greater 
alt keycode  52 = Meta_period 
alt shift keycode 52 = Meta_greater
altgr shift keycode 52 = guillemotright
keycode  53 = semicoloncolon   
alt keycode  53 = Meta_semicolon  
alt shift keycode 53 = Meta_colon  
keycode  54 = Shift   
keycode  56 = Alt 
keycode  57 = spacespace   
control keycode  57 = nul 
alt keycode  57 = Meta_space  
keycode  58 = Caps_Lock   
keycode  69 = Num_Lock
keycode  70 = Scroll_Lock  Show_Memory  Show_Registers  
control keycode  70 = Show_State  
alt keycode  70 = 

Re: Diferenças nos mapas de teclado

2000-05-01 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
O mapa da Conectiva é a saida do dumpkeys o que deixa o mapa muito
maior. Faça o testes: Pegue o mapa que enviei, carregue-o e digite
dumpkeys, você terá o código de todas as teclas.

O padrão que está sendo usado por Yann Dirson é este agora, o mapa
original ao invés do dumpkeys, isto diminui o tamanho dos mapas e
consequentemente do pacote. 

Falando nisso, o pacote com a correção do mapa ABNT2 e o novo mapa de
teclados para teclados EUA está em incoming (o que um bug com severity
important faz...). 

Em breve o sistema de instalação terá suporte completo a todos os mapas
de teclado de Brasil/Portugal.


Edson Yassuo Fugio wrote:
 
 Olá pessoal,
 
 Eu testei os mapas do Conectiva (igual ao do
 http://lie-br.conectiva.com.br/~iga) e o do Gleyson. Não aparenta haver
 diferenças no uso diário, mas eu notei algumas diferenças nos mapas.
 Existem diferenças nos keycode 2, 3, 4, 7, 12, 14, 26, 40, 41 e 121. Não
 percebi nenhuma diferença, talvez alterasse algo no uso do emacs, mas é
 apenas um palpite.
 O mapa da Conectiva tb tem varios Meta_* a mais, há alguma utilidade
 para todos esses meta?
 
 -
 Mapa Conectiva (na verdade é muito maior)
 
 charset iso-8859-1
 keymaps 0-15
 keycode   0 =
 keycode   1 = Escape   Escape
 alt keycode   1 = Meta_Escape
 keycode   2 = one  exclam   onesuperior exclamdown
 alt keycode   2 = Meta_one
 alt shift keycode 2 = Meta_exclam
 keycode   3 = two  at   twosuperior onehalf
 control keycode   3 = nul
 control shift keycode 3 = nul
 alt keycode   3 = Meta_two
 alt shift keycode 3 = Meta_at
 keycode   4 = threenumbersign   threesuperior
 threequarters
 control keycode   4 = Escape
 alt keycode   4 = Meta_three
 alt shift keycode 4 = Meta_numbersign
 keycode   5 = four dollar   pound onequarter
 control keycode   5 = Control_backslash
 alt keycode   5 = Meta_four
 alt shift keycode 5 = Meta_dollar
 keycode   6 = five percent  cent
 control keycode   6 = Control_bracketright
 alt keycode   6 = Meta_five
 alt shift keycode 6 = Meta_percent
 keycode   7 = six  dead_diaeresis   notsign diaeresis
 alt keycode   7 = Meta_six
 keycode   8 = sevenampersandbraceleft
 control keycode   8 = Control_underscore
 alt keycode   8 = Meta_seven
 keycode   9 = eightasterisk bracketleft
 control keycode   9 = Delete
 alt keycode   9 = Meta_eight
 keycode  10 = nine parenleftbracketright
 alt keycode  10 = Meta_nine
 keycode  11 = zero parenright   braceright
 alt keycode  11 = Meta_zero
 keycode  12 = minusunderscore   backslash
 control keycode  12 = Control_underscore
 control shift keycode 12 = Control_underscore
 alt keycode  12 = Meta_minus
 alt shift keycode 12 = Meta_underscore
 keycode  13 = equalplus section
 alt keycode  13 = Meta_equal
 keycode  14 = Delete   Delete  Delete
 alt keycode  14 = Meta_Delete
 keycode  15 = Tab  Tab
 alt keycode  15 = Meta_Tab
 keycode  26 = dead_acute   dead_grave   acutegrave
 control keycode  26 = nul
 alt keycode  26 = Meta_apostrophe
 alt shift keycode 26 = Meta_grave
 keycode  27 = bracketleft  braceleftordfeminine
 control keycode  27 = Escape
 alt keycode  27 = Meta_bracketleft
 alt shift keycode 27 = Meta_braceleft
 keycode  28 = Return
 alt keycode  28 = Meta_Control_m
 keycode  29 = Control
 keycode  39 = +ccedilla+Ccedilla
 keycode  40 = dead_tilde  dead_circumflex   asciitilde
 asciicircum
 control keycode  40 = nul
 control shift keycode  40 = Control_asciicircum
 alt keycode  40 = Meta_asciicircum
 keycode  41 = apostrophe   quotedbl
 control keycode  41 = Control_g
 alt keycode  41 = Meta_apostrophe
 alt shift keycode 41 = Meta_quotedbl
 keycode  42 = Shift
 keycode  43 = bracketright braceright   masculine
 control keycode  43 = Control_bracketright
 alt keycode  43 = Meta_bracketright
 alt shift keycode 43 = Meta_braceright
 keycode  51 = commaless
 alt keycode  51 = Meta_comma
 alt shift keycode 51 = Meta_less
 altgr shift keycode 51 = guillemotleft
 keycode  52 = period   greater
 alt keycode  52 = Meta_period
 alt shift keycode 52 = Meta_greater
 altgr shift keycode 52 = guillemotright
 keycode  53 = semicoloncolon
 

Alteração do tamanho das fontes no X

2000-05-01 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Instalei a Potato em um computador que usa o 
Modo de video 640x480 (o monitor somente suporta esta 
resolução) e as fontes dos menus dos programas, barras 
de ferramenta aparecem em um tamanho muito maior que o 
X da Slink. 

Verifiquei nos how-tos XWindow-user, XF86-inside, e um 
outro sobre XFree que não me lembro o nome agora e não 
encontrei nada a respeito de onde modificar o tamanho 
padrão das fontes em menus, barras, etc. 

Gostaria que me indicassem onde modificar para corrigir 
o tamanho neste monitor, pois o cara do computador ta 
louco para usar o Linux e eu louco para me livrar dele :-)

E não estou tendo sorte em encontrar a documentação que 
fala sobre estetipo de modificação. Se também for possível mencionar o
nome do documento de referência, ficarei muito 
grato. 

---
Gleyson Mazioli da Silva
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: /var/spool/popbull?

2000-05-01 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Robert Waldner  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone knows what this and $HOME/.popbull are for?

Read the manual page of qpopper, and read the docs in
/usr/doc/qpopper/ ... it's all documented.

Mike.


segfaults in window managers - please help

2000-05-01 Thread Brian J. Stults
I have been unable to run any window manager in X, including sawmill,
enlightenment, twm, wm2, as well as gnome panel.  However, other apps
work okay like xterm and netscape.  I did an strace of several of these
apps, and it seems that they all segfault in the same area.  Here is
some of the output from wm2:

read(3, \1\370\7\0\0\0\0\0\312\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0..., 32)
= 32
rt_sigaction(SIGTERM, {0x8050b30, [], 0}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x8050b30, [], 0}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGHUP, {0x8050b30, [], 0}, NULL, 8) = 0
write(3, \20\0\4\0\10\0\0\0WM_STATE, 16) = 16
read(3, \1\370\10\0\0\0\0\0]\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0..., 32)
= 32
write(3, \20\0\6\0\17\0\0\0WM_CHANGE_STATE\0, 24) = 24
read(3, \1\370\t\0\0\0\0\0003\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0...,
32) = 32
write(3, \20\0\5\0\f\0\0\0WM_PROTOCOLS, 20) = 20
read(3, \1\370\n\0\0\0\0\0\345\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0..., 32)
= 32
write(3, \20\0\6\0\20\0\0\0WM_DELETE_WINDOW, 24) = 24
read(3, \1\370\v\0\0\0\0\0\320\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0..., 32)
= 32
write(3, \20\0\6\0\r\0\0\0WM_TAKE_FOCUSDOW, 24) = 24
read(3, \1\370\f\0\0\0\0\0004\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0...,
32) = 32
write(3, \20\0\7\0\23\0\0\0WM_COLORMAP_WINDOWS\0, 28) = 28
read(3, \1\370\r\0\0\0\0\0005\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0...,
32) = 32
write(3, \20\0\5\0\f\0\0\0_WM2_RUNNING, 20) = 20
read(3, \1\370\16\0\0\0\0\0006\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0..., 32)
= 32
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++

Does this mean anyghint to anyone?  I've also attached the full log of
the strace if you need more information.  It's not very big.  Thanks.
-- 

Brian J. Stults
Doctoral Candidate
Department of Sociology
University at Albany - SUNY
Phone: (518) 442-4652  Fax: (518) 442-4936
Web: http://www.albany.edu/~bs7452execve(/usr/openwin/bin/wm2, [wm2], [/* 30 vars */]) = 0
brk(0)  = 0x805618c
open(/etc/ld.so.preload, O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=20268, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 20268, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40014000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\000..., 4096) = 
4096
old_mmap(NULL, 46528, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40019000
mprotect(0x40023000, 5568, PROT_NONE)   = 0
old_mmap(0x40023000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x9000) = 0x40023000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=678236, ...}) = 0
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\A\1\000..., 4096) = 
4096
old_mmap(NULL, 656136, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40025000
mprotect(0x400bf000, 25352, PROT_NONE)  = 0
old_mmap(0x400bf000, 24576, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x99000) = 0x400bf000
old_mmap(0x400c5000, 776, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x400c5000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=293056, ...}) = 0
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\240\276..., 4096) = 
4096
old_mmap(NULL, 293808, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x400c6000
mprotect(0x4010a000, 15280, PROT_NONE)  = 0
old_mmap(0x4010a000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x43000) = 0x4010a000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=71960, ...}) = 0
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0PC\0\000..., 4096) = 
4096
old_mmap(NULL, 72504, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4010e000
mprotect(0x4011e000, 6968, PROT_NONE)   = 0
old_mmap(0x4011e000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0xf000) = 0x4011e000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=32000, ...}) = 0
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\\\0..., 4096) = 
4096
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0x4012
old_mmap(NULL, 34232, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40121000
mprotect(0x40128000, 5560, PROT_NONE)   = 0
old_mmap(0x40128000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x6000) = 0x40128000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=78288, ...}) = 0
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\3404\0..., 4096) = 
4096
old_mmap(NULL, 87024, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4012a000
mprotect(0x4013d000, 9200, PROT_NONE)   = 0
old_mmap(0x4013d000, 4096, 

Emacs - was Re: Mail/news software

2000-05-01 Thread Rob Lilley
Different Strokes for different folks.

Emacs - Show a newbie that and you will see the dust as he turns and runs
back to the Windows camp smile.   Emacs and Linux/Unix for that matter is
not for everybody - its there because of and for the growing few that want
to learn to swim upstream against the current.  I first heard about this
strange thing called Emacs in Clifford Stoll's book, The Cuckoo's Egg  In
fact, that book was responsible for getting me interested in the world
beyond DOS.  I vowed when I finished the book that someday I would learn
about Emacs and Unix.  There is a romance behind all of this wonderful
esoteric stuff - let's face it, those in the world of windows will never
reach out and touch the actual kernel of it all.

Rob
This ps -eafg command bothers me, he said. I can't say why, but it just
doesn't taste right.  Maybe its just paranoia, but I'm sure that I've seen
that combination before.  -- from The Cuckoo's Egg

-Original Message-
From: Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, April 30, 2000 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Mail/news software


On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 02:13:19PM +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote:
 I am very sorry if I offend, but I find emacs/xemacs about the most
 off-putting thing in Linux. Show a newbie that and you will see the dust
 as he turns and runs back to the Windows camp.

That is not always the case.  I tried out vi and emacs when I started
as a Linux newbie and did not like vi.  I could not immediately
understand it's logic.  I could however immediately start
using emacs.  It has an easy and very good tutorial for newbies and
after 5 years I am still learning and enjoying new features.

Johann
--
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Re: make-kpkg fail: can't find modversions.h (compiling pcmcia-modules)

2000-05-01 Thread Mark Phillips
 Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I am trying to use make-kpkg to make a pcmcia-modules package for a
  laptop.  It quits giving the following error:
  
  /usr/src/linux/include/linux/module.h:19: linux/modversions.h: No such 
  file or directory
  
  and sure enough, I can't find a file called modversions.h anywhere
  on the system!!
 
 I stumbled over this one when trying to compile the ALSA modules, took
 me a whole day to find why ...
 
 modversions.h is a file being created in the kernel compiling
 process. You have to build a new *kernel* before beeing able to make a
 modules package. Don't do a make-kpkg clean after that, because the
 file will be deleted by the cleaning up. Just proceed with making the
 modules package.

Thanks for this.  Yes, I finally worked this out too.  Do you think it
is a bug in the make-kpkg program?

I don't see why it should be necessary to compile the kernel before
doing the modules compile.  Certainly, it never used to be necessary.

Cheers,

Mark.


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Re: multi line regex's in vi ...

2000-05-01 Thread John Forest
On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 08:13:21PM -0700, Rick Younie wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 29, 2000, Adam Shand wrote:
  
   A two-liner is
   %s/^/p/   - add p to the start of each line
   %s/^p$//  - remove any lines that contain only p
  
  nope won't work.  it'll put a 'p ' at the beginning of every line which
  has text in it.  thus this:
 
 Ah.  Don't know how to do that with regex's but you can get it
 done with record/playback with Vim and Elvis.  You probably
 already know this.
 
 qa - start recording to register a
 /^$  - go to first blank line
 cursor down
 insert and type P
 esc
 q  - stop recording
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - repeats the recorded keystrokes a bunch of times
 
 If you have multiple adjacent blank lines you'll need to
 squash them to one,
 :g/^$/,/./-j
 
 Gotta be an easier way though.  Maybe one of the vi pros will drop in.
 
 Rick
 -- 

I'm no pro, but the following, without squashing works. And yes,
I know that at the end of the file it might give an error.
:g/^ *$/+1 s/^ *[^ ]/p/

John


Re: multi line regex's in vi ...

2000-05-01 Thread Adam Shand

that's useful, thanks.  i've never used macro's in vi, i'll play with it.  i
need to check out wml as well as someone else suggested ;)

adam.

On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Rick Younie wrote:

 On Sat, Apr 29, 2000, Adam Shand wrote:
  
   A two-liner is
   %s/^/p/   - add p to the start of each line
   %s/^p$//  - remove any lines that contain only p
  
  nope won't work.  it'll put a 'p ' at the beginning of every line which
  has text in it.  thus this:
 
 Ah.  Don't know how to do that with regex's but you can get it
 done with record/playback with Vim and Elvis.  You probably
 already know this.
 
 qa - start recording to register a
 /^$  - go to first blank line
 cursor down
 insert and type P
 esc
 q  - stop recording
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - repeats the recorded keystrokes a bunch of times
 
 If you have multiple adjacent blank lines you'll need to
 squash them to one,
 :g/^$/,/./-j
 
 Gotta be an easier way though.  Maybe one of the vi pros will drop in.
 
 Rick
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XFree86 4.0 and Xterm colors...

2000-05-01 Thread Eric G . Miller
I've installed, and managed to get working, XFree86 4.0.  The only big
problem remaining is that all of the terminal colors are really weird.
I now get pink on magenta and other generally unreadable color
combinations when I run mutt, slrn, etc.  I've been trying to figure
out where these colors got messed up, and I guessed it was in the new
terminfo entries.  Unfortunately, I don't know which ones are mucked up
or how to change them.  Any pointer's would be handy.

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Re: Obtaining KDE

2000-05-01 Thread str8edge
Hi,
If you check out http://kde.tdyc.com you will find all the information you need 
to get kde working
on debian. Worked great for me, I'm using woody. They have packages for
slink too. You can also find lines for /etc/apt/sources.list

you will also want to use the following line to change the window manager
/usr/sbin/update-alternatives --config x-window-manager

choose /usr/bin/kde, and all is good.

Hope this helps,
David


On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 11:47:13AM +, Steve White wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I have been trying most of the morning to obtain the KDE distribution
 from ftp.linuxberg.com and have thus far been unsuccessful. I am using
 apt in dselect and cannot seem to find the right combination of strings
 to enter so that it can find the package file.
 
 When prompted, I am providing a path to the package file ending in a /.
 (i.e. /pub/KDE/stable/distribution/deb/slink/.), which contains a
 packages.gz file and all the appropriate .deb files. However, dselect
 continues to prompt for the components to get, providing main contrib
 non-free as examples, but there is no such directory structure.
 
 How then do I force apt to look at the Packages.gz file and download the
 appropriate .deb files knowing where on an ftp site these files reside?
 (It seems to me that apt is assuming a very specific underlying
 directory structure and I cannot figure out how to circumvent this
 assumption).
 
 Best Regards,
 Steve
 
 
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Re: XFree86 4.0 and Xterm colors...

2000-05-01 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 06:02:07PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:
 I've installed, and managed to get working, XFree86 4.0.  The only big
 problem remaining is that all of the terminal colors are really weird.
 I now get pink on magenta and other generally unreadable color
 combinations when I run mutt, slrn, etc.  I've been trying to figure
 out where these colors got messed up, and I guessed it was in the new
 terminfo entries.  Unfortunately, I don't know which ones are mucked up
 or how to change them.  Any pointer's would be handy.
 
 Thanks.
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Re: multi line regex's in vi ...

2000-05-01 Thread Adam Shand

 I'm no pro, but the following, without squashing works. And yes, I know
 that at the end of the file it might give an error.

 :g/^ *$/+1 s/^ *[^ ]/p/

that does indeed do the trick!  now i just have to decipher the regex so i
understand it.

thanks!
adam.


Re: mutt and courier-imapd

2000-05-01 Thread Adam Shand

 Thanks for tracking this down! Hopefully, it will be fixed in courier
 soon, but in the meantime, your patch works great! I've gone back to
 using courier again.

just fyi there was a patch to courier imap to fix this problem (and one with
gnus) announced on freshmeat today.

adam.


Re: High load

2000-05-01 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
Suresh Kumar posts:

 I have never seen load averages going above 2
 earlier with redhat installation. 
 

On a similar setup while running Netscape ?  Please
install libc5 and libg++272 found in /oldlibs of the
Debian 'slink' CD.


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modules

2000-05-01 Thread jason
is there a way to build a specific module from kernel source and install
it? without haveing to build a new kernel and do a make modules and such?

ie .. i don't feel like screwing witht he kernel that came w/ slink but i
want to add a sound module.. after finals i'll do it the right way..
thanks

 

-jason

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sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity.
-Einstein



Re:

2000-05-01 Thread w trillich
 Sahap Kayhan wrote:
 
 I am using Windows98. I want to learn and try Linux system. What can
 I do? I am waiting for your explanation messages. Thanks.

buy a CD (www.linuxmall.com is one place you can get them
for Really Really Cheap--around $2.00 [u.s.] per distribution)
and install it on a PC. if you have a fast internet connection
you can download the kernels for free...
www.debian.org
www.redhat.com
www.openbsd.com
www.yellowdoglinux.com -- for powerpc (mac hardware)
check www.linuxcentral.com or other linux sites for other links.

tinker with it for a month, and then start over with another
distribution. repeat, until you get to debian, where you'll
probably stop.

:)


Re: gnus froze emacs20

2000-05-01 Thread itz
 Istvan == Kovacs Istvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Istvan Hello!  I tried gnus, recommended by several people (thanks to
Istvan all who responded!), and it froze my emacs20. Here's what I
Istvan wrote to John Hasler, one of the people trying to help: --- I
Istvan installed gnus (gnus_5.8.3-9.deb) on top of Emacs20. I
Istvan launched emacs, started the tutorial, it seemed to be working.

I am a longtime Gnus user and I am _sure_ you don't need the separate
Gnus package.  Gnus is part of Emacs20.  I think the Gnus package is
just for use with Emacs19.

You may have shot yourself in the foot by installing too much stuff
:-)

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How can I trim LC_MESSAGES?

2000-05-01 Thread montefin
Hi,

I have potato on a smallish HDD. I need to trim every meg possible.

/usr/share/locale is using about 24Mb for various foreign language
LC_MESSAGES.

Can I remove some of the language directories there by hand without
hurting anything? dselect, dpkg and apt-get say packages (locale-zh,
locale-ro, locale-ru, etc.) are not installed.

Thanks,

montefin


Re: your mail

2000-05-01 Thread kmself
On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 03:57:37PM +0300, Sahap Kayhan wrote:
 I am using Windows98. I want to learn and try Linux system. What can
 I do? I am waiting for your explanation messages. Thanks.

Along with other suggestions, I'd strongly recommend you either find
local training/education in Linux (offered through many Linux user
groups, community colleges, etc.), and/or pick up books such as:

  o Learning Debian GNU/Linux 
  o Running Linux
  o Linux in a Nutshell

...all published by O'Reilly  Associates (http://www.ora.com/).  

The first is available online at
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/index.html

Catalog price is $34.95, I've seen it frequently priced at $20 - $25.
It includes an installation disk.

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Re:

2000-05-01 Thread Matthew Dalton
Mowie nie po polsku. Czy ty mowisz po angielsku?

Stach wrote:
 
 Dla mnie jest super, że jest strona o Debianie, mały problem po co ona jest
 skoro i tak najważniejsze rzeczy są w języku angielskim, po co marnować
 miejsce na serwerze. Może da się coś z tym zrobić?
 
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This may be OT....SMP build question

2000-05-01 Thread Nun Yobiznez
I have recently put together a Atrend ATC6260 Dual
PII 400 w/ 128 SDRAM and installed frozen on it using
dselect's apt option. The default uni-kernel I soon
replaced w/ make-kpkg of the 2.2.14-5 (debian aquired)
variety and it is perfect EXCEPT that upon boot klogd
will monopolize 50% of the kernel resources until
termed.
This is less than an optimal situation. I have
read the bug list and nothing seems to indicate
symptoms that are the same. If you could help I would
greatly appreciate it. 

Thanking you in advance

Tim Stetson
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Re: daemons -- who needs'em?

2000-05-01 Thread w trillich
John Pearson wrote:
 
 On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 04:23:50PM -0500, w trillich wrote
  but what i was referring to was the console-happy curses-based gizmo
  that ran only on the FIRST BOOT after installing bare-bones kernel
  stuff from cd. blue screen, white selector bars, and TAB to rotate
  among the choices.
 
 
 I'm afraid you won't see tha unless you re-install - it's part of the
 dinstall script that is deleted after installation.  All it really does
 is
 # dpkg --set-selections  profile.whatever
 and you can get the actual package lists it uses from the boot-floppies
 package (I think).

thought it was something like that.

 IMO, they are a mixed blessing - they mean that a new user can
 skip dselect, which is the most harrowing step for most new
 users, but they also mean that users end up with (e.g.) NIS
 installed when they have no idea what it's for or whether they
 need to worry about the error messages it produces.

or about the flames they get when asking if they need such a beast..

:)

thanks for the info!


Re: /var/spool/popbull?

2000-05-01 Thread w trillich
 Robert Waldner  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone knows what this and $HOME/.popbull are for?
 
 Read the manual page of qpopper, and read the docs in
 /usr/doc/qpopper/ ... it's all documented.

it *is* usually documented, but going from the filename
(.popbull) to the name of the manpage (qpopper) is something
of a mystery to many of us.

(another plug for a debian newbie link on the mailing list
along with the 'unsubscribe' tag below)


Re: How to find DMA, IRQ etc.? Was: OPTi sound card support

2000-05-01 Thread Douglas M. Hespe
On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 02:55:32PM +0200, Kent Nyberg wrote (inter alia):

 Just set the right dma and irq stuff, and it will work.

Does anyone know how to find out these things without resort to MSD,
the Micro$oft Diagnostics.  My machine is pure Debian 2.1r4 and, 
although I could probably borrow a copy of DOS 6.2 and put it on 
a small partition, I would rather not for both legal and personal
reasons.  Apropos irq/IRQ/dma/DMA gave nothing appropriate in 
each case.

Thanks, Doug.


Re: list suggestion? [was Another dpkg or apt-get question from a new user]

2000-05-01 Thread Maury R. Merkin
Well I, for one, sure would have appreciated such an addition to the message 
tag (or
monthly notice)

I've been using Linux since late 1994 so, if I'm not a guru [and I'm certainly 
not],
I do have some fairly rich general skills/knowledge.  But I started with 
Slackware
and then, somewhere along the way, switched to RH.  Moving, about two weeks ago 
now,
to Debian has been in many ways a joy, but some specific parts of the change 
have
been a lot harder to recover from than I had expected.

Most of the problems could have been resolved instantaneously if I had had a 
good
source of information about the way the Debian system handles packages.  And
specifically, what to expect from (and how to get the most out of) the 'dpkg,'
'dselect' and 'apt-get' commands.  (Are there other, related, commands that I 
haven't
run across yet?)

And I would still enjoy seeing some of those http links you suggested below.

Maury

w trillich wrote:

 the simple answer to the question 'how do i know what files are
 in the package i installed?' was

 dpkg -L pkgname

 things like this are standard knowledge among debian folk who
 have been on this list for a few weeks--but for the new folk,
 it's a complete mystery, but each one of us has had to ask
 the same questions... again and again.

 i know that the questions i've asked have often been 'one too many'
 for some of you. :)

 perhaps we could add, to the 'unsubscribe' tag at the end of each
 message sent by the list-server (see the bottom of this message),
 an URL pointing to one DEBIAN-SPECIFIC newbie-like page containing
 pointers to such stuff as
 'what's slink, potato, sid,  such?' -- http link
 'how to upgrade your debian software' -- apt-get
 'how to configure apt-get' -- /etc/apt/sources.list -- http link
 'why we retch all over those *.rpm files' -- http link
 'what package uses file XYZ' -- dpkg -S XYZ
 'which files are in package Q' -- dpkg -L Q
 'know what's in a *.deb package before you apt-get it' -- http link
 --
 plus, pointers to linux-general stuff, perhaps...
 'apache configs' -- apache.org
 'email configs' -- fetchmail, sendmail, exim, c
 'samba configs' -- samba.org
 c

 if we don't wanna add another line to the 'unsubscribe' tag at
 the end of each message, perhaps post a monthly (or periodic, at
 least) newbie pointer-list?

 might help cut the friction/grease the wheels?

 [ our site isn't stable yet or i'd volunteer. (politics and procedures
 impede, for the moment.) ]

 --

 currently, www.debian.org has a few pointers to 'getting started':
 -support:
 - subscribe to this mailing list (and here we are! aaugh!)
 - contact package maintainers (they have nothing better to do)
 -documentation:
 - faq-o-matic == PLEASE CONTRIBUTE! ==
 - faq
 - getting debian mentions 'apt-get' near the bottom
 - archives describes distribution directories
 - debian guide (still rather intimidating)
 - debuan tutorial (chapter 14! mentions configuring apt-get)
 -release info
 great for the tech-heads who understand it
 (say, someone who was a newbie four months ago)
 even the useful links here are buried three deep or so. why not have
 these links be at the top level of a 'debian newbie' site, the URL
 of which is added to the 'unsubscribe' tag below?

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[*]ntfs and kernel

2000-05-01 Thread maths
hello everybody

i want to mount ntfs, so i install ntfs2.0.33_971218-4.deb,
i use 

# insmod -f ntfs.o 

and it tell me this ntfs.o is for kernel 2.0.33, and im using
kernel 2.0.38

what shall i do? 

many thanks!
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dns/named conf-usion [OT]

2000-05-01 Thread w trillich
there are docs that tell what all the fields are spozed to be
in an /etc/bind/* file, sure, but where's the docs that tell me
why my configuration generates all this griping from named?

# ndc restart

/var/log/syslog reports that...
named[26622]: starting.  named 8.2.2-P5-NOESW Tue Apr 11 14:22:53 MDT
2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/src/Packages/bind/bind-8.2.2p5/src/bin/named
named[26622]: hint zone  (IN) loaded (serial 0)
named[26622]: master zone localhost (IN) loaded (serial 1)
named[26622]: master zone 127.in-addr.arpa (IN) loaded (serial 1)
named[26622]: master zone 0.in-addr.arpa (IN) loaded (serial 1)
named[26622]: master zone 255.in-addr.arpa (IN) loaded (serial 1)
okay, to here. then--
named[26622]: Zone mydomain.com (file /etc/bind/mydomain): No
default TTL set using SOA minimum instead
named[26622]: /etc/bind/mydomain:16: data localhost outside zone
mydomain.com (ignored)
named[26622]: /etc/bind/mydomain:17: data dns.isp.net outside zone
mydomain.com (ignored)
named[26622]: master zone mydomain.com (IN) loaded (serial 24191)
named[26622]: Zone 90.33.208.in-addr.arpa (file
/etc/bind/mydomain.rev): No default TTL set using SOA minimum instead
named[26622]: master zone 90.33.208.in-addr.arpa (IN) loaded (serial 
24193)
named[26622]: Zone pri (file /etc/bind/pri): No default TTL set
using SOA minimum instead
named[26622]: /etc/bind/pri:14: data home outside zone pri (ignored)
named[26622]: /etc/bind/pri:21: data linus outside zone pri (ignored)
named[26622]: /etc/bind/pri:22: data jonathon outside zone pri (ignored)
named[26622]: /etc/bind/pri:24: data jonathon outside zone pri (ignored)
named[26622]: /etc/bind/pri:24: data libris outside zone pri (ignored)
named[26622]: /etc/bind/pri:26: data libris outside zone pri (ignored)
named[26622]: master zone pri (IN) loaded (serial 24193)
named[26622]: Zone 1.168.192.in-addr.arpa (file /etc/bind/pri.rev):
No default TTL set using SOA minimum instead
named[26622]: Zone 1.168.192.in-addr.arpa (file /etc/bind/pri.rev):
no NS RRs found at zone top
named[26622]: master zone 1.168.192.in-addr.arpa (IN) rejected due
to errors (serial 24192)
named[26622]: listening on [127.0.0.1].53 (lo)
named[26622]: listening on [192.168.1.1].53 (eth0)
named[26622]: listening on [208.33.90.85].53 (eth1)
named[26622]: Forwarding source address is [0.0.0.0].1500

questions--

1) says in both mydomain zone or pri zone that i have no TTL field,
but i do, really i do. see below.

2) why would it ignore items outside the zone--else how could
www.some.mirror.com point to www.uk.mirror.com as a network participant
in a geographically-different location?

3) for my 192.168.*.* intranet, i'd like to have the computers chat
to each other with simple one-word names 'libris' instead of 'libris.pri'.
how's that work?

=
here's pri--
;
; BIND data file for private home intranet
;
@   IN  SOA pri. root.pri. (
24193   ; Serial
8H  ; Refresh
2H  ; Retry
1W  ; Expire
1D ); Default TTL
TXT private home intranet
NS  ns
A   192.168.1.1
;
home.   CNAME   @
www A   208.33.90.85
;
localhost   A   127.0.0.1
ns  A   192.168.1.1
TXT the glue
linus.  CNAME   ns
jonathon.   A   192.168.1.100
TXT el grafico
libris. A   192.168.1.200
TXT et felis

=
here's pri.rev--
;
; BIND REVERSE data file for pri
; (1.168.192.in-addr.arpa)
;
@   IN  SOA pri. root.pri. (
24192   ; Serial
8H  ; Refresh
2H  ; Retry
1W  ; Expire
1D ); Default TTL
;
1   IN  PTR ns.pri.
;1  IN  PTR linus.pri.
100 IN  PTR jonathon.
200 IN  PTR libris.

=
here's mydomain--
;
; BIND data file for mydomain.com
;
@   IN  SOA mydomain.com. root.mydomain.com. (
24191   ; Serial
8H  ; Refresh
2H  ; Retry
1W  ; Expire
1D ); Default TTL
TXT mydomain website
NS  ns.mydomain.com.
;   NS  dns.speedex.net.
MX  10  mail
A   208.33.90.85
;
localhost.  A   127.0.0.1
dns.speedex.net.A   208.33.88.5
;   TXT remote dns
ns  A   

Re: make-kpkg fail: can't find modversions.h (compiling pcmcia-modules)

2000-05-01 Thread Mark Phillips
 Mark == Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Mark I think this is the problem.  I shouldn't have to do the configuring
  Mark myself because make-kpkg should do it for me.  For some reason it
  Mark seems that it doesn't.  It sounds like a bug with make-kpkg.
 
No, this is pilot error. Please read the documentation that
  comes with kernel-package; it details exactly what one needs to do. 

I thought I was following the documentation, but it sounds like I
misread it.

I presume you are talking about the README.modules file?  I did
follow these instructions, except that I have always been under the
impression that the first step 3) was optional.  If I summarise the
steps:

1) Install modules source

2) Do make menuconfig

3) If you want a kernel-image do make-kpkg --revision number
kernel_image

3) If you want a modules package make-kpkg --revision number
modules_image

4) Use dpkg -i to install. 

I thought that the first of these step 3)s was only necessary if you
wanted a new kernel-image package.  Are you saying that the first
step 3) is necessary even if you already have an appropriate kernel
image?  I thought I had skipped this step in the past without difficulty.  
But perhaps I had done the kernel compilation earlier without doing a 
clean and that's why it worked???

Anyway, it sounds like I have misunderstood.  Perhaps an extra little
note that this step is not optional as well as giving the two steps
separate numbers would help avoid such missunderstandings.

The other thing I might mention, is that a number of the files,
README.modules, README.tecra etc etc, do not appear in the
/usr/doc/kernel-package directory.  Then are in the
/usr/lib/kernel-package/ directory.  I only found them by doing a
locate command.  Perhaps it would be useful to make links to these
files so they show up in the /usr/doc/kernel-package directory?

By the way, I hope my comments aren't coming across as me being
critical of the kernel-package.  I think Manoj has done a great job
with this utility.  I am just making the comments so that things can
be made even better, and so that future people don't make the same
mistakes I have made.

Cheers,

Mark.



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Re: [*]ntfs and kernel

2000-05-01 Thread Corey Popelier
I would suggest going to http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists
and look for a ntfs2.0.38*.deb somewhere in the hamm section there,
possibly under binary-i386/main.

I am trying to verify this myself, but my netlink from work sucks ass.

Cheers,
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On Mon, 1 May 2000, maths wrote:

 hello everybody
 
 i want to mount ntfs, so i install ntfs2.0.33_971218-4.deb,
 i use 
 
 # insmod -f ntfs.o 
 
 and it tell me this ntfs.o is for kernel 2.0.33, and im using
 kernel 2.0.38
 
 what shall i do? 
 
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Re: [*]ntfs and kernel

2000-05-01 Thread Corey Popelier
Ok scrap that idea. That's what I get for posting without thinking. Plan
(b), note I might be entirely wrong again, is that installing the .deb for
2.0.33 is a rather bad idea, you should be compiling the support in using
the 2.0.38 kernel source. I would have thought that NTFS support would be
an option inside make menuconfig (or whatever make method you use), and by
installing the 2.0.33 version you've effectively downgraded the NTFS
support. Note again that it's so long since I played with Hamm that I
could be wrong. Point I'm making is, you should be looking for a
ntfs2.0.38* deb package or a module option within the 2.0.38 source for
your NTFS support. Being a potato user I can't advise any further.

If I am wrong again, I will effectively quarantine my support services
until my braincells reach an acceptably high number.

Cheers,
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On Mon, 1 May 2000, Corey Popelier wrote:

 I would suggest going to http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists
 and look for a ntfs2.0.38*.deb somewhere in the hamm section there,
 possibly under binary-i386/main.
 
 I am trying to verify this myself, but my netlink from work sucks ass.
 
 Cheers,
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 On Mon, 1 May 2000, maths wrote:
 
  hello everybody
  
  i want to mount ntfs, so i install ntfs2.0.33_971218-4.deb,
  i use 
  
  # insmod -f ntfs.o 
  
  and it tell me this ntfs.o is for kernel 2.0.33, and im using
  kernel 2.0.38
  
  what shall i do? 
  
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Re: X display

2000-05-01 Thread kmself
On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 05:58:46PM +, John Carline wrote:
 
   ( what is olwm and many other apprev...I done no!!)?
 
 Missed this question. Olwm is a windows manager not a xserver. You can
 load one windows manager or several and then switch between them. Windows
 managers are what you seed when the xserver starts. Everyone has their

s/seed/need/

For a visual and feature-wise comparison of window managers, try the
Window Managers for X page

http://www.plig.org/xwinman/

...though note that features not evident in static screenshots can make
a tremendous differnce.  My pick is WindowMaker.  For a MS Windoze 
background newbie I'd suggest KDE and/or Gnome, in about that order.
Blackbox is also cool.  Olwm is based off of Sun's OpenLook window
manager.  Bretty bletchly IMO.

 You also need a file manager. Take a look at TkDesk or midnight commander.

s/need/may want/

A file manager isn't essential.  ls, cp, rm, and mv will get you a long
way g.  However, there are several drag'n'drop file managers.

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Re: New kernel (2.2.15), now keyboard/machine freezes often

2000-05-01 Thread Mark Phillips
 I've just compiled and installed a new kernel (version 2.2.15) on a
 friend's Toshiba laptop.  He has emailed me today complaining about
 keyboard freezes.  Actually, I'm not sure from his comments, whether
 it is just the keyboard that freezes or the whole computer.

An update on the problem.  I have confirmed that it is not the whole
computer which freezes.  It is the keyboard in the console which
freezes (the console also seems to go blank).  I know this because I
can connect to the machine via telnet over the ethernet from another
machine.

The freeze happens often after booting.  One time it worked for a
while, but then froze when changing consoles.

I am guessing it is either

1. A interrupt conflict with the keyboard.  But /proc/interrupts
doesn't seem to show any conflict --- would it show up here?

2. A problem with APM options in the kernel.  Are there any options to
watch out for with the Toshiba Tecra 8000?

3. Some other kernel options wrongly selected for the compile.


Any ideas anyone?

Thanks,

Mark.


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Re: New kernel (2.2.15), now keyboard/machine freezes often

2000-05-01 Thread Christian Kuester
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 05:38:17PM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote:
  I've just compiled and installed a new kernel (version 2.2.15) on a
  friend's Toshiba laptop.  He has emailed me today complaining about
  keyboard freezes.  Actually, I'm not sure from his comments, whether
  it is just the keyboard that freezes or the whole computer.

It happens also on my Toshiba Sattelite. With (the precompiled) Kernel
from RedHat 6.1(de)i 2.2.12 and my selfcompiled 2.2.14. 
Both with APM.

[...]
 The freeze happens often after booting.  One time it worked for a
 while, but then froze when changing consoles.

I think it happens during init 3.
 
 I am guessing it is either
[...]

I will test this Ideas.

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Re: How to find DMA, IRQ etc.? Was: OPTi sound card support

2000-05-01 Thread John Bagdanoff
On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 05:04:39PM +1000, Douglas M. Hespe wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 02:55:32PM +0200, Kent Nyberg wrote (inter alia):
 
  Just set the right dma and irq stuff, and it will work.
 
 Does anyone know how to find out these things without resort to MSD,
 the Micro$oft Diagnostics.  My machine is pure Debian 2.1r4 and, 
 although I could probably borrow a copy of DOS 6.2 and put it on 
 a small partition, I would rather not for both legal and personal
 reasons.  Apropos irq/IRQ/dma/DMA gave nothing appropriate in 
 each case.
 
Goto:
http://www.opensound.com/

download  install their OSS for linux. It's free for about
3 hours or so.  Soundconfig will
see your card and you can note the settings. 

John


How to configure X?

2000-05-01 Thread Eduardo Hidalgo Contreras
Hello, I have just installed debian GNU/Linux. I selected the 
Workstation_Comp or something like that so I could get some packages 
installed and not have to use the [S]elect step in dselect. I thought it 
would install everything I need for X Window, but I guess not... I can't 
run it.


I allready ran XF68Setup, as well as xf86config, and I also downloaded and 
installed the correct drivers for my graphics card (Diamond Viper V770 
Ultra). I have configured and installed those drivers in other Linux 
distributions (Red Hat 6 and Slackware 7), but I can't do it in Debian.


When I use startx I errors like: _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't 
connect: errno = 111

and after that some errors about directory not found.

I also downloaded all the xf86_servers, that is: svga, vga16, mono, etc, 
etc, etc...


Thanks for all your help.

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Re: Potato networking

2000-05-01 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 06:24:34PM -0400, Alec Smith wrote:
 I just installed Potato using the Potato boot disks, and found there's no 
 more /etc/init.d/network for setting things up. As it stands now, the 
 machine is using DHCP to get settings. It appears this also overwrites 
 custom changes to /etc/resolv.conf at the very least.
 
 Does someone have a sample of /etc/networking/interfaces which allows for 
 static configuration similar to what used to be done in /etc/init.d/network?
 
 If I were in charge of Debian, I'd go back to doing this the old way

you still can do it the old way, just comment out everything in
/etc/networking/interfaces (or maybe just delete it) and add you own
/etc/init.d/network script using update-rc.d to add the links.  

i installed potato before this was changed and never `converted' all
is working fine for me.  

the reason it was changed was to allow for easier upgrading of the
network configuration, this is not very easy with the flat script so
for example when you upgrade a slink system to kernel 2.2 you start
getting SIOCCATTR (something like that) errors at boot because the
route command requires different arguments.  (that and you don't
really need the route command anymore on 2.2, except for the localhost
route which never gets created (not that it seems to matter, i just
prefer to see a route for localhost))

at the risk of joey throwing something at me... ;-)  i still prefer the
old way.

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Re: Installing lp in potato...

2000-05-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 01:32:17PM -0500, Ron Stordahl wrote:
 When selecting the device driver module for lp (line printer) in potato I
 get this error:
 
 /lib/modules/2.2.14/misc/lp.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
 /lib/modules/2.2.14/misc/lp.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.14/misc/lp.o failed
 /lib/modules/2.2.14/misc/lp.o: insmod lp failed
 
 Installation failed.
 
 =
 
 I do not get this error if I install slink instead, its new to potato, at
 least for me.
 
 Since I have my harddrive on a plug in carrier, I plugged in the Win98 disc
 to verify that nothing has gone wrong with my lp controller (its the typical
 on board one) and it works just fine.  It is configured, in the BIOS, as
 378H IRQ 7 ECP+EPP ECP DMA Select 3.
 
 Rather than use the default of leaving the command line arguments blank I
 also tried io=0x378 irq=7 but the error was the same.
 
 Is this the correct group to report this?
 
 Any ideas?

I'm not sure that this would affect installation of the module itself,
but lp device numbering changed between kernels 2.0.x and 2.2.x.

Have you compiled a new kernel yet?  The modules off the install disks
are a bit dodgy (this bug may have been fixed however).

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Re: How to find DMA, IRQ etc. Was: OPTi sound card support

2000-05-01 Thread Robert Waldner
On Mon, 01 May 2000 03:54:21 PDT, John Bagdanoff writes:
On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 05:04:39PM +1000, Douglas M. Hespe wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 02:55:32PM +0200, Kent Nyberg wrote (inter alia):
 
  Just set the right dma and irq stuff, and it will work.
 
 Does anyone know how to find out these things without resort to MSD,
 the Micro$oft Diagnostics.  My machine is pure Debian 2.1r4 and, 
 although I could probably borrow a copy of DOS 6.2 and put it on 
 a small partition, I would rather not for both legal and personal
 reasons.  Apropos irq/IRQ/dma/DMA gave nothing appropriate in 
 each case.
 
Goto:
http://www.opensound.com/

download  install their OSS for linux. It's free for about
3 hours or so.  Soundconfig will
see your card and you can note the settings. 

another approach would be to browse through /proc/[pci,ioports,dma,irq]
and/or fingering around with pnpdump for ISA-cards.

hth,
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Re: webmin

2000-05-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 01:21:15AM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:

[ snip ]

 experimental - This is a special distribution for packages the maintainer
 feels shouldn't even go into unstable. For this reason it is not
 apt-gettable. It can be found at ftp.debian.org (or a mirror) in
 /pub/debian/projects/experimental .

Au contraire .. put this in your sources.list:

  # experimental
  deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian project/experimental/

It might not be a good idea, but it works :)

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Re: Mail/news software

2000-05-01 Thread m_shapiro
On 30-Apr-00 Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Phillip Deackes wrote:
 
 I disagree and am continually posting info about an excellent email app
 called Ishmail. It was a commercial offerring but the source code has
 now been released. It is available on www.ishmail.com
 
 
 I looked at this a while back (and debianized it in the process.)  It's
 nice if you like that kind of thing but not my cup of tea.  I can send you
 my .deb if you like but I've no interest in officially maintaining it.
 
 -- 
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But does it handle USENET postings?

The original poster was asking for a package which would handles USENET, as
well as e-mail, and I am interested in this, as well.  From what I could see on
the ishmail pages (granted, I was in a hurry and did not read all of it), I
could find no indication that this was also useable as a newsreader.  Did I
miss something?



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Re: modules

2000-05-01 Thread Colin Watson
jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is there a way to build a specific module from kernel source and install
it? without haveing to build a new kernel and do a make modules and such?

Yes. Do a 'make modules' in the kernel tree, then just copy the sound
module (something.o) from wherever it gets built into the right place in
/lib/modules. Then do '/sbin/depmod -a' and modprobe the module.

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lynx and squid

2000-05-01 Thread ktb
I've looked in the archives and the documentation for lynx.  I was
wondering if lynx can be set up to use squid on my firewall?  I see
there is a way to set up lynx in /etc/lynx.cfg to use an isp's proxy but
I haven't been able to get lynx to work with mine.  I have also tried to
sign in on my firewall with 'lynx -pauth=fkent:passwd' but that
results in --
Warning, unable to connect to remote host.

If lynx can't be used with squid then is there a text browser out there
that will?
Thanks,
kent


Loading Debain by PPP connection

2000-05-01 Thread Dan Hutchinson
I have loaded my home PC with the base system from debian download. 
I try to connect to the web to download the debian packages from the
web. I installed the potato version. 
My problem is as follows:
When I run dselect it trys to connect through the NIC card I have.
I have a PC with a NIC and a PPP modem.  I am assuming the modem is compatiably
since it advertised Linux compatiablity.  It is a PC Call Waiting modem.
 I have a dual Pentium 500 Celeron system with ABIT motherboard, 394MB
memory, 20GB Hard Disk, Yamaha CD-RW, etc...

What files to I have to manaul configure with a base debian system or
can I run something like pppconfig. 

Dan

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Re: Loading Debain by PPP connection

2000-05-01 Thread Stan Kaufman
Dan Hutchinson wrote:
 
 I have loaded my home PC with the base system from debian download.
 I try to connect to the web to download the debian packages from the
 web. I installed the potato version.
 My problem is as follows:
 When I run dselect it trys to connect through the NIC card I have.
 I have a PC with a NIC and a PPP modem.  I am assuming the modem is 
 compatiably
 since it advertised Linux compatiablity.  It is a PC Call Waiting modem.
  I have a dual Pentium 500 Celeron system with ABIT motherboard, 394MB
 memory, 20GB Hard Disk, Yamaha CD-RW, etc...
 
 What files to I have to manaul configure with a base debian system or
 can I run something like pppconfig.
 
 Dan

Dan, I recently went through this myself. Here's what worked for me:

Go to http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/net/pppoe.html
Download the pppoe package. (This assumes you can get to the ftp site
somehow--maybe another box?)
Install it: 
# dpkg --install pppoe.deb
That will also install the man pages; read 'em to find out what other
script modifications you need to make to:
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets
/etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider (if you've got a DSL connection)
/etc/init.d/network
/etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot
Once you've done all this, you launch your ppp connection thus:
# /etc/init.d/ppp start
And you kill it thus:
# /etc/init.d/ppp stop

HTH.

Stan


Re: Loading Debain by PPP connection

2000-05-01 Thread Daniel Reuter
Hello Dan,

On Mon, 1 May 2000, Dan Hutchinson wrote:

 I have loaded my home PC with the base system from debian download. 
 I try to connect to the web to download the debian packages from the
 web.
 When I run dselect it trys to connect through the NIC card I have.
 I have a PC with a NIC and a PPP modem. 
 What files to I have to manaul configure with a base debian system or
 can I run something like pppconfig. 
 
 Dan

You not only can run pppconfig, you even HAVE to run it to get a working
ppp-connection, as your computer won't know the phone-number and all the
other information it needs to connect to your provider. pppconfig comes
with the base system, so it should be there. It's IMHO easy to use, just
enter some things as phone-number of your provider, DNS-Server etc.. After
having done this you should normally be able to start a connection with
the following command:
pon 
(as root or as member of the dip-group)
to terminate type:
poff

Regards,
Daniel


Re: X display

2000-05-01 Thread John Carline
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 05:58:46PM +, John Carline wrote:
  
( what is olwm and many other apprev...I done no!!)?
 
  Missed this question. Olwm is a windows manager not a xserver. You can
  load one windows manager or several and then switch between them. Windows
  managers are what you seed when the xserver starts. Everyone has their
 
 s/seed/need/

A! Nope! Sorry, but you missed that one. Seed should have read 'see'.

I was wondering where that damn 'd' went. It was missing from an email I sent
out two days ago. Ain't it just amazing how a letter can hide in you computer
and then jump into an email when you least expect it??? ;-)




 For a visual and feature-wise comparison of window managers, try the
 Window Managers for X page

 http://www.plig.org/xwinman/


Excellent suggestion.


 ...though note that features not evident in static screenshots can make
 a tremendous differnce.  My pick is WindowMaker.  For a MS Windoze
 background newbie I'd suggest KDE and/or Gnome, in about that order.
 Blackbox is also cool.  Olwm is based off of Sun's OpenLook window
 manager.  Bretty bletchly IMO.

  You also need a file manager. Take a look at TkDesk or midnight commander.

 s/need/may want/

 A file manager isn't essential.  ls, cp, rm, and mv will get you a long
 way g.  However, there are several drag'n'drop file managers.

Absolutely true, and we don't need X either :-).

However one of the reasons I like TkDesk (especially for a newby) is that all
the above is included, plus an excellent editor, plus the ability to seed (er!
make the see ;-)) several directories deep. My recommendation for a newby is
choose TkDesk, set the options to see all files and long listing. Then browse
the directories at will, reading all the configuration files and readmes of
interest. It's amazing how much you can learn.

John.

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Re: modules

2000-05-01 Thread Chris Gray
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 02:31:12PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
 jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 is there a way to build a specific module from kernel source and install
 it? without haveing to build a new kernel and do a make modules and such?
 
 Yes. Do a 'make modules' in the kernel tree, then just copy the sound
 module (something.o) from wherever it gets built into the right place in
 /lib/modules. Then do '/sbin/depmod -a' and modprobe the module.

Even easier than copying the module into the right place is 'make
modules_install' which does it automagically.

Good luck,
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Re: X display

2000-05-01 Thread John Carline
See, it did it again! This letter escaped from my last email :-)

r


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Setting up printing without a printer (print to file)

2000-05-01 Thread Bryan Scaringe
I'd like to set up printing, but I don't have a printer.  What I would like to
do, is have things that are printed get sent out to a Postscript file.  Under
Windows I could accomplish this by setting up my default printer to an Aple
LaserWriter, and configuring the LaserWriter to print to a postscript file.

Is such a setup posible under Linux?

Bryan


Re: multi line regex's in vi ...

2000-05-01 Thread w trillich
Adam Shand wrote:
 
  clever solution. wish i'd come up with that one.
 
 ain't that always the way ... :)
 
  here's the lo-down:
 
  :g - globally--i.e. thru every line in the file
 
 how is that different from :s/find/replace/g ?

ex is a LINE editor. if your line looks like this:
life is like a box of chocolates
you can issue
s/ /-/g
to turn it into
life-is-like-a-box-of-chocolates
that is, s///=substitute on this line, /g=globally ON THIS LINE (all
instances get replaced).

whereas
:g
denotes 'repeat on all LINES of the file'

so a :g s/// will, on EACH LINE, replace the FIRST instance
of whatever; to replace all instances on each line you need
to use :g s///g

  /^ *$/ - for every line that is blank (zero or more spaces only)
  +1 - increment line counter (i.e. go to line following match!)
 
 so this just moves it down a line right?  it finds the empty line and then
 goes down one.

right.

  s/^ *  - look for blanks at beginning of line
  [^ ]/  - that are followed by a non-blank
  p- replace with a p
  / - and the string that was matched
 
 so  is a short hand way of using ()'s and  \1?

tha's my guess (i'm not absolutely positive, but the documentation
will clarify that, i'm sure).

  of course if you have two blank lines in a row, it breaks...
 
 it'll just put the 'p' at the beginning of the second blank line
 right?  is it possible to do two searches instead of
 incrementing the line counter?  ie. search for ^ *$ and then
 search for ^[^ ] so you are guarenteed to be at the next line of

no. on the s/// part, he had it look for non-blanks, which makes
it fail when it encounters a second blank line in a row:
:g/^ *$/+1 s/^ *[^ ]/p/

if you always have single blank lines (even with spaces on them)
this'll work, but it perishes when there's two in a row.

  (probably better long-term solution is to use perl (or wml) to
  filter your text.)
 
 yeah, i'm checking out wml now, though with this solution i actually don't
 have a lot of need for one.

if you're just bringing a one-shot website from text to html,
then you're probably right. but if you do this kind of thing
often, either perl or wml (which uses perl, as i recall)
will save your bacon many times over...


Re: Emacs - was Re: Mail/news software

2000-05-01 Thread Kovacs Istvan
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:35:31 -0400, Rob Lilley wrote:

Different Strokes for different folks.

Emacs - Show a newbie that and you will see the dust as he turns
and runs back to the Windows camp smile.   Emacs and Linux/Unix
for that matter is not for everybody - its there because of and
for the growing few that want to learn to swim upstream against
the current. [...]
There is a romance behind all of this wonderful esoteric stuff
 - let's face it, those in the world of windows will never
reach out and touch the actual kernel of it all.

I disagree with you: Linux is nice because it works, and not because
it's esoteric. That's exactly the reason why I chose OS/2 five years
ago, and why I'm switching to Linux now. As Linux matures, there'll be
less and less need to improve the kernel and the core services of the
OS, and more effort will be spent on the UI, including popular
applications, which means that more and more people will find the
system useful. Most of them won't want to 'touch the actual kernel of
it all', what they'll want is a usable system.
Emacs, vi, development tools are fine for developers (I also decided to
learn Emacs and vi -- not at the wizard level, but to be able to use
them when needed), and it's reasonable not to expect the masses to use
them, but it's not the same case with Linux (I hope :-)

Kofa

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Re: PerlSendHeader

2000-05-01 Thread w trillich
Benjamin Reed wrote:
 
 I've turned off PerlSendHeader, but no matter what I do, it seems that I'm
 already getting headers before I ever print anything.
 
 I have the following in my httpd.conf:
 
 ---(snip!)---
 Alias /perl/ /home/httpd/perl/
 Location /perl
  SetHandler perl-script
  PerlHandler Apache::Registry
  PerlSendHeader Off
  Options Indexes ExecCGI
 /Location
 ---(snip!)---
 
 If I have a script called /home/httpd/perl/index.pl with only the following:
 
 ---(snip!)---
 $|++;
 print END;
 Content-type: text/html
 
 Hi.
 END
 ---(snip!)---
 
 I end up with Content-type: text/html Hi. in the browser.

i had the same snag. i *think* what i was missing was that
the very first header that's included with 'perlSendHeaders on'
is HTTP/1.1 200 OK line.

check and see if your 'content-type' stuff is in a monospaced
font (courier, as opposed to times or helvetica). if it is,
that is, it looks like it's within pre/pre tags, then
it's been sent as plain text, not as html.

to double-check, put b or i in your output.

if it *is* just plain text, then apache didn't know what to
do with your output, perhaps because there was no HTTP
line, and bailed, telling the browser to expect text/plain
instead of what you intended.

maybe. just guessing.


moving from procmail to exim

2000-05-01 Thread Eric Gillespie, Jr.
I have all my procmail rules converted to exim .forward rules,
except one, and i don't think it can be done with exim.

This is the rule:

:0
   * !^Content-Type: message/
   * !^Content-Type: multipart/
   * !^Content-Type: application/pgp
   {
  :0 fBw
  * ^-BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-
  * ^-END PGP MESSAGE-
  | formail \
 -i Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=encrypt

  :0 fBw
  * ^-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  * ^-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
  * ^-END PGP SIGNATURE-
  | formail \
 -i Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=sign
   }

This rule converts old-style PGP-signed messages to the new
PGP/MIME format. Is there any way i can get this functionality
with exim? Though i'd rather get rid of procmail entirely, if
having exim call procmail somehow is the only solution, i'll take
it. It's better than nothing.

-- 
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 Buy. And be happy.
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Module loading

2000-05-01 Thread Kovacs Istvan
Hello!

As some of my modules still won't load on demand, yesterday evening
(CET) I visited the IRC channel #debianhelp. There, someone told me
that not all modules are supposed to load on demand. Sure enough, the
drivers for my SCSI card, NIC, SB AWE32 won't load on demand, but work
fine with modprobe.
How can I tell which modules are supposed to auto-load and which are
not?
Also, where is it documented how module names and devices correspond to
each-other?

Please point me to T relevant FM, so I can R it.

TIA,
Kofa

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Sound problem (alsa / esound)

2000-05-01 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini


Hi,

  I have enlightenment  0.16.4-1 on a woody system; I'm using an old
  SoundBlaster 16 (remember those which came with an IDE interface so
  you could plug the CD-ROM drive?).
  I had no sound problems until an upgrade I did yesterday: for some
  reason (I'm not sure if I did select additional packages or not, I
  thought I just did an apt-get upgrade), alsa seems to be
  misconfigured.

  During the installation of the packages yesterday, the alsaconf
  script was called...

  And my /etc/modules file now has several alias snd-card-xx
  entries.

  When I boot, this is what I get:

sb Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
sb: No ISAPnP cards found, trying standard ones...
SB 4.13 detected OK (220)

(so the sound card was detected)

But later in the boot process, I also get lots of messages like:

/etc/rc2.d/S20alsa: alias: snd-slot-XX not found
/etc/rc2.d/S20alsa: alias: snd-card-XX not found
/etc/rc2.d/S20alsa: alias: snd-service-0-0 not found
/etc/rc2.d/S20alsa: alias: snd-mixer-oss not found

(These are not shown when I call dmesg, I had to press ctrl-S and copy
them during the boot process)

And when I start enlightenment, it complains about not being ble to
communicate with esound... Also, I can't use the sound device (it's
lwys busy).

I do not have the package esound installed, but I *do* have
esound-alsa, version 0.2.18-2 (I just checked) 

What could have happened? 

I tried calling alsaconf, and it shows me a list of soundcards (so I
suppose it didn't detect the soundblaster automatically)... I can see:

SoundBlaster_1.0
SoundBlaster_2.0
SoundBlaster_Pro

And the others options are PnP and PCI cards (so I suppose they
wouldn't work).
I have tried choosing SoundBlaster_1.0, but it didn't work.

Does anyone have any idea of what i have to do to get this working
again?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
J.

-- 
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Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil
http://www.dcc.unicamp.br/~jeronimo
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how to get rid of ucbmpeg-play pkg??

2000-05-01 Thread kaynjay
I am totally frustrated. Trying to do a dist-upgrade, first through dselect
and now out at the cmd. line.  Have DL'd all packages, but things screech to
a halt when ucbmpeg-play (which I unsuccessfully tried to remove before)
throws a wrench into the process.

I've tried to use 
dpkg -p(r) --force-remove-reinstreq ucbmpeg-play 
but it fails to get rid of the problem.

This is first on the list in the upgrade process, so I'm stuck.  I tried
reading through theh dpkg options but nothing else seems to fit.

Is there Anyway to get rid of this pesky thing??  I don't see my system
crashing because of it...

Kenward


Re: how to get rid of ucbmpeg-play pkg??

2000-05-01 Thread kaynjay
sorry.. here's a file of the readouts I get with this problem with dpkg...

Kenward
Package: ucbmpeg-play
Priority: extra
Section: non-free/graphics
Installed-Size: 248
Maintainer: Malc Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: i386
Version: 2.3p-9
Replaces: ucbmpeg_play
Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.2), xlib6g (= 3.3.6)
Conflicts: ucbmpeg_play
Filename: dists/frozen/non-free/binary-i386/graphics/ucbmpeg-play_2.3p-9.deb
Size: 69302
MD5sum: 2685e4109a7e84b700030d0e0e5ebf01
Description: Software-only MPEG video player
 This program decodes and displays an MPEG-1 video stream.  The
 program has been written to be portable, which means it has not
 been optimized for specific platforms.  The decoder is implemented
 as a library that will take a video stream and display it in an X
 window on an 8, 24 or 32 bit deep display.
 .
 For more information on MPEG standards and other MPEG software and
 hardware, see http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/mpeg/index.html.
 This mpeg_play has been upgraded to version 2.3-patched.


H_Potter:~# dpkg -r ucbmpeg-play
dpkg: error processing ucbmpeg-play (--remove):
 Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
 reinstall it before attempting a removal.
Errors were encountered while processing:
 ucbmpeg-play


Re: Emacs - was Re: Mail/news software

2000-05-01 Thread Richard Taylor
Kovacs Istvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
(snip)
 Emacs, vi, development tools are fine for developers (I also decided 
to
 learn Emacs and vi -- not at the wizard level, but to be able to use
 them when needed), and it's reasonable not to expect the masses to use
 them, but it's not the same case with Linux (I hope :-)

 Emacs is far more useful than that... It's still the best
 mailer/newsreader/text based office program in existence.
 --
 My other computer's running Debian. {www.debian.org}




RE: lynx and squid

2000-05-01 Thread C. Falconer
Look in /usr/local/lib/lynx.cfg for configuration for lynx (thats 
slackware's location do a  `locate lynx.cfg`)

Find lines like
#http_proxy:http://some.server.dom:port/
#https_proxy:http://some.server.dom:port/
#ftp_proxy:http://some.server.dom:port/

and change them to
http_proxy:http://myproxy.foo:3128/
https_proxy:http://myproxy.foo:3128/
ftp_proxy:http://myproxy.foo:3128/

If your proxy requires authentication then I'm *guessing* it'll need to be 
something like this
http_proxy:http:/username:passwd/myproxy.foo:3128/
https_proxy:http:/username:passwd/myproxy.foo:3128/
ftp_proxy:http:/username:passwd/myproxy.foo:3128/

This may sound bad putting your password into a plain text world readable 
file - it should, it is.  However if you're the only user on the box then 
it'll make all users use that proxy on your password.  And if you're on a 
multi-user box then copy lynx.cfg to ~/.lynxcfg and it is now your own 
personal config file.

Remember - lynx is good - lynx can do most anything that doesn't require 
graphics (shockflashwave etc)

For the list - how w3c compliant is lynx ?

--
From:   ktb[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Tuesday, 2 May 2000 1:48 AM
To: Debian Users
Subject:lynx and squid

I've looked in the archives and the documentation for lynx.  I was
wondering if lynx can be set up to use squid on my firewall?  I see
there is a way to set up lynx in /etc/lynx.cfg to use an isp's proxy but
I haven't been able to get lynx to work with mine.  I have also tried to
sign in on my firewall with 'lynx -pauth=fkent:passwd' but that
results in --
Warning, unable to connect to remote host.

If lynx can't be used with squid then is there a text browser out there
that will?
Thanks,
kent


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Re: are there any good free 3d modeling tools?

2000-05-01 Thread Michael A. Miller
 Chris == Chris Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello, I'm looking for good free (as in speech) 3d modeling
 tools.

Geomview is packaged for Debian.

http://www.geom.umn.edu/software/download/geomview.html


HELP

2000-05-01 Thread Juan Camilo Rozo
Hi. Im using Corel Linux, and I havent been able to make it work with my sound 
card. My sound card is integrated into my mother board, and supposedly its 
Sound Blaster Compatible. Can anyone please help me how I may try to configure 
it with Linux, or where can I find how to do that?

please Help!


Re[2]: Emacs - was Re: Mail/news software

2000-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, May 01, 2000, 11:59:24 AM, Richard wrote:
  Emacs is far more useful than that... It's still the best
  mailer/newsreader/text based office program in existence.

That is highly debated, esp. for people who prefer not to have huge
bloated pigs in memory, don't want to learn a speech impediment on top of
other languages and actually prefer to have separate, specific programs for
their individual tasks.  Simply stated, anything which requires Emacs to run
is instantly lower than something that requires Windows to run because at
least it /IS/ an OS and not an editor that is a wannabe script interpreter and
OS rolled into one.

  My other computer's running Debian. {www.debian.org}

And this one is running, what?  Amiga?

-- 
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 ICQ: 5107343  | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
---+-



HELP

2000-05-01 Thread Juan Camilo Rozo
Hi. Im using Corel Linux, and I havent been able to make it work with my sound 
card. My sound card is integrated into my mother board, and supposedly its 
Sound Blaster Compatible. Can anyone please help me how I may try to configure 
it with Linux, or where can I find how to do that?

please Help!


Mupad

2000-05-01 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
Is there any mupad deb available?


Re: lynx and squid

2000-05-01 Thread kmself
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 08:48:17AM -0500, ktb wrote:
 I've looked in the archives and the documentation for lynx.  I was
 wondering if lynx can be set up to use squid on my firewall?  I see
 there is a way to set up lynx in /etc/lynx.cfg to use an isp's proxy but
 I haven't been able to get lynx to work with mine.  I have also tried to
 sign in on my firewall with 'lynx -pauth=fkent:passwd' but that
 results in --
 Warning, unable to connect to remote host.
 
 If lynx can't be used with squid then is there a text browser out there
 that will?
 Thanks,
 kent

Set the environment variable $HTTP_PROXY to the appropriate value, eg:

HTTP_PROXY=http://localhost:5865/

...which also works for w3m.  Not sure about links (w3m and links are
two other text-mode browsers).

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Re: Re[2]: Emacs - was Re: Mail/news software

2000-05-01 Thread Graeme Mathieson
Hi,

Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[ snipped ... ]
 Simply stated, anything which requires Emacs to run
 is instantly lower than something that requires Windows to run because at
 least it /IS/ an OS and not an editor that is a wannabe script interpreter
 and OS rolled into one.

Has anybody ever tried to graft emacs directly on top of oskit?  _Then_ you
would have your operating system. :)

To keep this post slightly on-topic, you'll notice that my X-Newsreader:
header says I'm using Gnus.  That and mailcrypt does covers all my mail
and news needs better than any other tool I've found so far.  Still it
has some niggles though.

-- 
Graeme.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Life's not fair, I reply. But the root password helps. - BOFH


Solved - Re: how to get rid of ucbmpeg-play pkg??

2000-05-01 Thread kaynjay
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 11:30:44AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am totally frustrated. Trying to do a dist-upgrade, first through dselect
 and now out at the cmd. line.  Have DL'd all packages, but things screech to
 a halt when ucbmpeg-play (which I unsuccessfully tried to remove before)
 throws a wrench into the process.
 
 I've tried to use 
 dpkg -p(r) --force-remove-reinstreq ucbmpeg-play 
...

Never mind, folks.  I went back into the messages, yanked out the postrm
file, and commented out the simple mime-update line.

The original installation came from archives I had on another disk.  I
expect the problem arose from the method I used for that (dpkg, since I
didn't have a net connection at that point for apt, with no lists, etc).

Oh well...  so far the install is moving along nicely (so nice to have a
fast cpu / lotsa RAM!!  :)

Kenward


ping via perl?

2000-05-01 Thread w trillich
could this be a result of the perl5.004* vs. 5.005* situation?
if not, then--what?


#!/usr/bin/perl

use Net::Ping;

my $ip = 208.33.90.84;
my $wait = 5;

$p = Net::Ping-new();
print $ip is alive.\n if $p-ping($ip);
$p-close();

__END__


Bad arg length for Socket::unpack_sockaddr_in, length is 0, should be
16 at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/Socket.pm line 295, IN chunk 3.
Socket::sockaddr_in(undef) called at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Net/Ping.pm line 374
Net::Ping::ping_udp('Net::Ping=HASH(0x829e990)', 'M-P!X^E', 5)
called at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Net/Ping.pm line 154
Net::Ping::ping('Net::Ping=HASH(0x829e990)', 'speedex.net')
called at ping.pl line 9
Debugged program terminated.  Use q to quit or R to restart,


Re: Mupad

2000-05-01 Thread ktb
You can do a search for packages at --

http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

Doesn't look like it.  If someone is working on it they will probably
let you know.
hth,
kent

Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
 
 Is there any mupad deb available?


Re: HELP

2000-05-01 Thread ktb
Juan Camilo Rozo wrote:
 
 Hi. Im using Corel Linux, and I havent been able to make it work with my 
 sound card. My sound card is integrated into my mother board, and supposedly 
 its Sound Blaster Compatible. Can anyone please help me how I may try to 
 configure it with Linux, or where can I find how to do that?

You will need to compile support for it in your kernel.  Install the
'kernel-pakage' read the docs that come with that. 
hth,
kent


bizarre gateway box routing behavior; what's wrong with my configs?

2000-05-01 Thread Stan Kaufman
I've posted parts of this problem before, and thanks to the folks who
have made suggestions. However, I'm still stuck.

I'm a relative newbie with Linux trying to set up a gateway box with
three NICs so I can masquerade the ip addresses of a DMZ and Internal
network similar to the description in the IPCHAINS HOWTO.

At this point, I've just set up three networks  with reserved addresses
around the gateway box while I work out the routing. But for reasons I
cannot work out, two of the NICs (eth1 and eth2) in the gateway box are
behaving bizarrely. I can ping them from inside the gateway box, and I
can also ping them from the network attached to eth0. However, I cannot
ping them from the networks attached directly to the NICs.

It seems to me that there must be some Truly Stpid error I've made
in a simple configuration, but I can't find it and would *greatly*
appreciate any help. This is driving me nuts.

Here's my network topology:
 
  External Network (BAD)
   |
Test Client box 192.168.1.2
   |
||HUB||
   |
   eth1| (will be the external address eventually) 
--- 
| 192.168.1.1|   
| |
|GATEWAY BOX  |eth0
 ---
| |192.168.2.1  |   (DMZ)  
| | |   
  
|192.168.3.1  | |   
--- | 
   | eth2   |
   ||   
||HUB||  ||HUB|| 
   ||
   || 
   Internal Network (GOOD)  |
   ||
-   -
laptop|WWW/ mail server |
-   - 
192.168.3.2 192.168.2.2 

I'm running Debian (potato) on a scavenged P75 box. I've got an Intel
EtherExpress Pro 10/100 PCI NIC at eth0, and two Intel EntherExpress
Pro/10+ ISA NICs at eth1 and eth2. I believe I've successfully
configured the ISA NICs via isapnptools; the PCI NIC was found
automagically during the Debian installation. Here's the ifconfig
output:

eth0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:C9:E6:97:49
inet addr:192.168.2.1  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
RX packets:33 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:6 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
Interrupt:9 Base address:0xfcc0

eth1Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:AA:00:BD:AE:A1
inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
Interrupt:5 Base address:0x200

eth2Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:AA:00:BD:B0:90  
inet addr:192.168.3.1  Bcast:192.168.3.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
Interrupt:10 Base address:0x220 

lo  Link encap:Local Loopback  
inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
RX packets:38 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:38 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0

The NICs' LEDs indicate that they're connected and responding to traffic
on their networks, and when I stuck the ISA NICs into a Windoze box,
they worked fine. So I believe the NICs are OK except for some idiotic
configuration error.

Here's what happens:
- 192.168.2.2 can ping 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.3.1
- 192.168.1.2 can't ping 192.168.1.1
- 192.168.3.2 can't ping 192.168.3.1
- 192.168.2.2 can't ping 192.168.1.2 or 192.168.3.2

Here's my routing table:

Kernel IP routing table
Destination   Gateway  Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
192.168.3.0   0.0.0.0  255.255.255.0   U 0  0   0   eth2
192.168.2.0   0.0.0.0  255.255.255.0   U 0  0   0   eth0
192.168.1.0   0.0.0.0  255.255.255.0   U 0  0   0   eth1
192.168.3.0   192.168.3.1  255.255.255.0   UG0  0   0   eth2
192.168.2.0   192.168.2.1  255.255.255.0   UG0  0   0   eth0
192.168.1.0   192.168.1.1  

Re: mutt and courier-imapd

2000-05-01 Thread Brian May
 Adam == Adam Shand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thanks for tracking this down! Hopefully, it will be fixed in
 courier soon, but in the meantime, your patch works great! I've
 gone back to using courier again.

Adam just fyi there was a patch to courier imap to fix this
Adam problem (and one with gnus) announced on freshmeat today.

Where can I get this patch for Gnus?
-- 
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Mail/news software

2000-05-01 Thread Brian May
 Christophe == Christophe TROESTLER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Christophe On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Kovacs Istvan
Christophe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What mail and news software do you recommend?  The ideal
 software would be able to handle both mail and news in an
 integrated manner, place incoming and outgoing messages into
 folders automatically using header info, integrate with
 PGP/GPG, handle UU/MIME attachments, thread messages, fetch
 using POP3 and send via SMTP, would have a GUI that allows
 multiple windows to be open for composing and reading
 mail/articles, and would be easy to use and free of charge.

Christophe Mew http://www.mew.org/ has all that (plus much
Christophe more, particularly important for me is the ablility to
Christophe manage several identities with associated headers,
Christophe signature,...).  But I won't hide that it is still
Christophe under heavy development and _some_ of the more
Christophe advanced features are still implemented rather
Christophe crudely.

Do you know how Mew compares with Gnus?
-- 
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: gnus froze emacs20

2000-05-01 Thread Brian May
 itz == itz  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

itz I am a longtime Gnus user and I am _sure_ you don't need the
itz separate Gnus package.  Gnus is part of Emacs20.  I think the
itz Gnus package is just for use with Emacs19.

itz You may have shot yourself in the foot by installing too much
itz stuff :-)

I think you need the Gnus package for the latest gnus, with
support for MIME attachments, etc.

-- 
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: ping via perl?

2000-05-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 04:20:52PM -0500, w trillich wrote:
 could this be a result of the perl5.004* vs. 5.005* situation?
 if not, then--what?
 
 
 #!/usr/bin/perl
 
 use Net::Ping;
 
 my $ip = 208.33.90.84;
 my $wait = 5;
 
 $p = Net::Ping-new();
 print $ip is alive.\n if $p-ping($ip);
 $p-close();
 
 __END__
 
 
 Bad arg length for Socket::unpack_sockaddr_in, length is 0, should be
 16 at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/Socket.pm line 295, IN chunk 3.
 Socket::sockaddr_in(undef) called at
 /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Net/Ping.pm line 374
 Net::Ping::ping_udp('Net::Ping=HASH(0x829e990)', 'M-P!X^E', 5)
 called at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Net/Ping.pm line 154
 Net::Ping::ping('Net::Ping=HASH(0x829e990)', 'speedex.net')
 called at ping.pl line 9
 Debugged program terminated.  Use q to quit or R to restart,

I ran into this problem a few weeks ago; At the time I think I decided
it was a problem with the Socket module.  I hadn't investigated it
much since I found a solution that worked for me.

The Net::Ping module is part of package perl-5.005; there's an open
bug that seems to address this issue:

  http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/55/55427.html

Note that this Net::Ping module tries to create a UDP socket by
default;  this doesn't work.  I don't think the TCP socket ping worked
for me either.

The good news is that the ICMP type works fine; however it must run
under root priviledges.

HTH,

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Nathan Norman Eschew Obfuscation  Network Engineer
GPG Key ID 1024D/51F98BB7http://home.midco.net/~nnorman/
Key fingerprint = C5F4 A147 416C E0BF AB73  8BEF F0C8 255C 51F9 8BB7


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