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conexion
Hola mi problema es el siguiente: Tengo una Pc Compaq presario con modem interno y logro hacer conexionesa donde deseo el problema es cuando trato de conectarme e mi servidor de correo (Exchange 5.5) cuando lo hago atraves del RAS no me baja mi correo y veo que la conexiones son a 28.000 si bien me va. Hay alguna forma de hacer más veloz mi conexion y así poder bajar todo mi correo..???
Conexion puerto paralelo
Hola: Para conectar dos ordenadores por el puerto paralelo hay que usar un cable laplink. Sabeis si para este menester serviria tambien el cable de la impresora que poseo. Deseo hacer unas pruebas y si esto fuera posible no tendria que comprar el cable laplink. Gracias Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia User:104420 E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.airtel.net/personal/califa11 E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNU/Linux Debian Potato-2.2.15 (Frozen)
RE: Conexion puerto paralelo
Hola, me temo que no te sirve el cable normal, ya que el PLIP utiliza la línea de estado número 5 del puerto, que no es utilizada por un cable normal. El cable es barato, y si no, puedes fabricarte uno (mira en la Guía de Administración de Redes Linux, yo la cogí de LuCas). Ayer conseguí conectar mis dos ordenadores (por fin :) y es realmente rápido, pudiendo hacer ftp, telnet... Saludos, __ Fermín Manzanedo Guzmán [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.astrored.net/elsol GNU/Linux Debian 2.1 Lite. Usuario #184967 - Original Message - From: Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 9:28 AM Subject: Conexion puerto paralelo Hola: Para conectar dos ordenadores por el puerto paralelo hay que usar un cable laplink. Sabeis si para este menester serviria tambien el cable de la impresora que poseo. Deseo hacer unas pruebas y si esto fuera posible no tendria que comprar el cable laplink. Gracias Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia User:104420 E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.airtel.net/personal/califa11 E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNU/Linux Debian Potato-2.2.15 (Frozen) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Las empresas se dejan debianizar?
Guenas El Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 09:56:43AM +0200, Antonio Castro disidio iscribir: Debian tiene su leyenda negra, bastante infundada. Creo que se basa sobre todo en dos cosas: Ni Hamm ni Slink tenian esos colorines tan monos que RedHat o Suse ponian en la instalacion en los tiempos de, digamos, RH 5.1 o 5.2; por Ni falta que hace. Mi concepto de la amistosidad no va por ese lado. Me alegro. Entonces estamos mas de acuerdo de lo que parece :-) Lo curioso es que, haya la leyenda que haya, la mayoria de los servicios y programas se configuran mas facilmente en Debian que en cualquier otra distribucion, y la instalacion sigo sin ver donde esta su dificultad. Pues realmente yo creo que eso depende. Debian es muy flexible y tiene muy bien resuelto todo eso. Otras distribuciones se centran en facilitar al máximo las configuraciones más normales en entornos domesticos y ofimáticos. Para alguien que va a usar el ordenador en su casa para conectarse a internet, para hacer algo de programación, algo de dibujo, diseño web, y otra serie de cosas no necesita lo mismo que el que va a instalar un servidor de Web en internet o un cortafuegos, etc.. Para mi no son temas incompatibles porque se pueden ofrecer varias formas de instalar. Y Debian lo tiene bastante resuelto con sus perfiles de instalacion. Puede que debiesen ser mas abundantes, o puede opinarse sobre lo que dichos perfiles te instalan, pero al menos la cosa ya esta andando. Y el tan odiado dselect me parece estupendo para saber de que se dispone y de que no; quizas solo con retocar un poco las teclas y hacerle un front-end curiosete para usuarios noveles la cosa seria mucho mas util. Si se trata de usuario tecnico (programador, vamos), siempre esta el recurso de compilarse eso que echa en falta (que no creo que en este perfil sea problema). Si pensamos en el usuario domestico, puede que entonces si tenga cierta importancia el estar al dia, pero para eso estan las versiones unstable, que la mayoria del tiempo son mas estables que muchas distribuciones a la venta. El problema en este ultimo caso es que esos CDs no se suelen encontrar a la venta, y seria interesante remediarlo. Más o menos estoy de acuerdo con eso aunque creo que si empezamos a dar excesivo valor a la versión inestable se puede terminar cuestionando la utilidad de sacar versiones estables por el esfuerzo que supone. Yo creo que las versiones estables siempre van a ser muy importantes. Al fin y al cabo son un punto de inflexion, un checkpoint por el que entran usuarios que no quieren complicarse la vida mas de lo necesario o que aun no tienen confianza suficiente con Debian como para aceptar la palabra unstable en sus CDs. Dejando aparte, claro, servidores y demas. Es la guerra de siempre. Antonio parece ponerse mas en el lugar del usuario tipo guindosero, dando importancia al aspecto y a una supuesta facilidad de No me gusta el término guindosero porque descalifica a demasiada gente que ni siquiera le gusta windows. Perdon, lo pongo de otra forma :-) : tu te pones mas en el lugar del usuario inexperto, o del usuario llamado domestico. Tu pareces buscar las facilidades en la instalacion y en las configuraciones iniciales, ?me equivoco? uso. Yo niego la mayor, y aunque no sea ninguna prueba definitiva mi opinion se ve respaldada por mi experiencia enseqando a gente totalmente novata: el entorno grafico ralentiza el aprendizaje y disminuye el rendimiento de trabajo; tiene su utilidad, pero no es la base de nada que no sea dedicarse al ** grafico (pongase aqui lo que se quiera, diseqo, programacion de, etc...) Se vende muy bien las distribuciones que se instalan desde un entorno gráfico pero yo no me refiero a eso. SuSE usaba una herramienta de configuración y de instalación en mi opinión bastante buena Yast. Luego ha sacado Yast2 que es la versión gráfica. Tengo claro que eso se hace por motivos comerciales y para mi no supone niguna ventaja sino más bien lo contrario y espero que al menos continuen dejando las dos Yast y Yast2 porque a mi me gusta mucho más la primera. Ademas de que, aunque tienda a olvidarse, existen ordenadores con pocos recursos que aun pueden prestar grandes servicios, o simplemente maquinas que no tienen por que tirar de entorno grafico. Parece que los gráficos refuerzan la apariencia de mayor amistosidad pero yo estoy hablando de la amistosidad real. Me refiero a que no te obliga a leer montones de cosas. Que te ofrece libertad para hacer las cosas en plan sencillo con autodetección de hardware a tope y poca intervención del usuario o en plan flexible más laboriosa. Todo eso me parece bien, y es necesario, pero valorando bien los inconvenientes. Las autodetecciones de hard parecen conllevar riesgos de cuelgues. Las instalaciones rapidas y automaticas tienen tendencia a convertirse en monstruos que te instalan mas cosas de las que quieres, y al final el usuario no sabe ni lo que tiene instalado realmente.
Re: Las empresas se dejan debianizar?
Guenas El Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:53:32PM +0200, Manel Marin disidio iscribir: ... por otro lado, Debian no basaba su configuracion en un linuconf o un yast. ... Detalle: Potato trae linuxconf (configuración fácil de Linux), y de momento lo he probado modificando el LILO, y montado un servidor DNS cache, resolviendo también las IP locales, y sin problemas... Sigo provando cosas, probaré la config de samba, apache, etc... creo que si el paquete está en Debian es que ya no tiene bugs muy gordos ;-) Sassstamente :-)), el que este en Debian para mi ya hace que merezca un plus de confianza. De todas formas, ese tipo de herramientas me da un poquito de repelus: el webmin en slink, por ejemplo, hacia algunas cosas bastante bien, pero otras a veces podia llegar a destrozarmelas. A vre si encuentro un PC que no me importe dejar hecho unos zorros y hago unas pruebecillas... Saludines -- --- Andres Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] AndresHE/cagarruta En Irc-Hispano | N.Reg: 66054 PAGÜERED BAI Debian Potato (sin colorines, se leer)| Kernel 2.4.0-test1 Toshiba 220 CS - P133 - 48Mb RAM - 6Gb HD. ---
Re: Las empresas se dejan debianizar?
Guenas El Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 07:50:46PM +0200, Antonio Castro disidio iscribir: Las versiones inestables no son tan adecuadas para su comercialización porque indirectamente se asume mayor responsabilidad en el contenido de los CDs ofrecidos. Es un problema, desde luego. Lo que pasa es que en Octubre cuando Debian dijo que conjelaba la Potato, las ventas de las Slink tambien se congelaron porque la gente se puso a esperar la aparición de la versión estable y se descongelarán cuando salga la versión oficial de la Potato. Este proceso de congelacion ha sido terrorifico. Respecto a la comercialización de las versiones inestables me gustaría decir algo pero no se muy bien como plantearlo porque es algo que me afecta. Yo también ofreceré la Citius cuando salga. Citius tiene previsto sacar versiones con más frecuencia que Debian pero hay que entender que las versiones inestables de Debian o se usan como base para una distribución basada en Debian y que se responsabilice de lo que mete en los CDs como tiene previsto hacer Citius o en mi opinión no son apropiadas para la venta. No digo que no se pueda hacer legalmente pero seguro que son una fuente de problemas y de malos entendidos del tipo porque se hizo esto en lugar de esto otro. Quizas una linea de distribuciones mas puramente Debian, en el sentido de poner algo mas al estilo de una simple recopilacion o snapshot a tal fecha en lugar de una distribucion propiamente dicha, podria ser mas adecuado. Montar sobre algo tan cambiante como la unstable sin siquiera esperar a la congelacion puede ser, digamos, estresante :-))) Tambien estaria muy bien hacerlo en plan actualizacion parcial, aunque entonces estaria el problema de que el tema de dependencias podria llevar a un lio de cuidado :-( Resumiendo: El problema no es donde comprar. El problema es que la versión oficial no se vende bien cuando se ha congelado la sucesora, y la versión inestable no es demasiado vendible. Para mi el remedio para todos en un futuro puede venir de la mano de Citius si lo hace bién que así lo espero y si logra aguantar el tiempo suficiente. Ojala, y otro tema es la posibilidad de aparecer en revistas. Es evidente que es la mejor publicidad para una distribucion, y en el caso de Debian (como en el de muchas otras) una buena forma de conseguir clientes entre las empresas. Saludines -- --- Andres Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] AndresHE/cagarruta En Irc-Hispano | N.Reg: 66054 PAGÜERED BAI Debian Potato (sin colorines, se leer)| Kernel 2.4.0-test1 Toshiba 220 CS - P133 - 48Mb RAM - 6Gb HD. ---
Re: Las empresas se dejan debianizar?
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guenas Es la guerra de siempre. Antonio parece ponerse mas en el lugar del usuario tipo guindosero, dando importancia al aspecto y a una supuesta facilidad de No me gusta el término guindosero porque descalifica a demasiada gente que ni siquiera le gusta windows. Perdon, lo pongo de otra forma :-) : tu te pones mas en el lugar del usuario inexperto, o del usuario llamado domestico. Tu pareces buscar las facilidades en la instalacion y en las configuraciones iniciales, ?me equivoco? Mejor usuarios domésticos, inexpertos y otros usuarios inexpertos que son legión. Una empresa no puede olvidarse de sus secretarias. Hay usuarios inexpertos que no usan el ordenador para jugar sino para cosas muy serias y productivas. Yo me preocupo por ellos no por simple altruismo sino porque creo que no pienso en Linux como un SO para una selecta clase de personas. Linux debería ser para todos pero no todos contribuyen al desarrollo de Linux y por ello Linux es como es. Las empresas comerciales hacen cosas muy necesarias que a Debian no le apetece haacer lo cual es una lástima porque proyectos como GNOME han demostrado que la comunidad de usuarios de software libre es capaz de hacer lo que sea y mejor que las empresas comerciales. Comparto la idea de Miguel de Icaza de que el software propietario lo tendrá cada día más dificil. Parece que los gráficos refuerzan la apariencia de mayor amistosidad pero yo estoy hablando de la amistosidad real. Me refiero a que no te obliga a leer montones de cosas. Que te ofrece libertad para hacer las cosas en plan sencillo con autodetección de hardware a tope y poca intervención del usuario o en plan flexible más laboriosa. Todo eso me parece bien, y es necesario, pero valorando bien los inconvenientes. Las autodetecciones de hard parecen conllevar riesgos de cuelgues. Las instalaciones rapidas y automaticas tienen tendencia a convertirse en monstruos que te instalan mas cosas de las que quieres, y al final el usuario no sabe ni lo que tiene instalado realmente. Ambas cosas serian muy utiles, pero hay que tener mucho cuidado con ellas para no caer en los defectos de otras distribuciones. Si pensaramos en los usuarios noveles, inexpertos, domésticos, ofimáticos, etc, la autodetección fiable la tendrñíamos regalada por los propios fabricantes de hardware. Saludines -- --- Andres Herrera[EMAIL PROTECTED] AndresHE/cagarruta En Irc-Hispano | N.Reg: 66054 PAGÜERED BAI Debian Potato (sin colorines, se leer)| Kernel 2.4.0-test1 Toshiba 220 CS - P133 - 48Mb RAM - 6Gb HD. --- Un saludo Antonio Castro +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informática (Tienda de Linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | . . . . . . . . . . | +()()()--()()()+ | Más de 1.000 sitios clasificados por temas sobre Linux en *Donde_Linux* | | http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html | +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
Re: Las empresas se dejan debianizar?
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guenas El problema no es donde comprar. El problema es que la versión oficial no se vende bien cuando se ha congelado la sucesora, y la versión inestable no es demasiado vendible. Para mi el remedio para todos en un futuro puede venir de la mano de Citius si lo hace bién que así lo espero y si logra aguantar el tiempo suficiente. Ojala, y otro tema es la posibilidad de aparecer en revistas. Es evidente que es la mejor publicidad para una distribucion, y en el caso de Debian (como en el de muchas otras) una buena forma de conseguir clientes entre las empresas. Las empresas no toman decisiones a la ligera. La aparición en una revista es una excelente forma de darse a conocer pero las empresas están preocupadas por temas de soporte, estabilidad, y actualizaciones de software entre otros. En un momento donde parece claro que las distribuciones de Linux no están haciendo esfuerzos de convergencia entre ellas, la decisión de una distribución supone una decisión importante. Saludines -- --- Andres Herrera[EMAIL PROTECTED] AndresHE/cagarruta En Irc-Hispano | N.Reg: 66054 PAGÜERED BAI Debian Potato (sin colorines, se leer)| Kernel 2.4.0-test1 Toshiba 220 CS - P133 - 48Mb RAM - 6Gb HD. --- Un saludo Antonio Castro +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informática (Tienda de Linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | . . . . . . . . . . | +()()()--()()()+ | Más de 1.000 sitios clasificados por temas sobre Linux en *Donde_Linux* | | http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html | +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
No puedo publicar la =?x-user-defined?q?=F1?=
Acabo de actualizar a Office 2000 y estoy utilizando FrontPage 2000. Mi problema es que puedo redactar la página con la ñ, cuando la visualizo en el explorador me sale la ñ pero cuando la publico la ñ desaparece y en su lugar me sale un q. ¿Qué puedo hacer? Gracias por anticipado. Un saludo. Sandra.
Núcleo ltecra
Hola, por fin he conseguido arrancar Debian sin ningún problema en mi portátil, e incluso ya me he conectado con el otro ordenador mediante PLIP. Pero ahora quiero dar un paso más: Copié el núcleo ltecra a un disquete y le puse el nombre de linux, pero lo que me gustaría es poder arrancar con LILO desde el disco duro. Para ello me imagino que habrá que recompilar el núcleo, ¿o no?, ¿o solo basta con sustituir el linux que tenga en el disco duro por el que tengo en el disquete? Solo tengo problema en el arranque (se me reinicia), luego funciona de maravilla. Saludos, Fermín Manzanedo [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.astrored.net/elsol GNU/Linux Debian 2.1 Slink. Usuario #184967
Re: No puedo publicar la ñ
Hola Joaquin-Sandra. On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 03:42:38PM +0200, Joaquin Saludes wrote: Acabo de actualizar a Office 2000 y estoy utilizando FrontPage 2000. Mi problema es que puedo redactar la página con la ñ, cuando la visualizo en el explorador me sale la ñ pero cuando la publico la ñ desaparece y en su lugar me sale un q. ¿Qué puedo hacer? Abre el ordenador y saca el disco duro. Ves al monte, coge almendras y ábrelas con tu nuevo Abridor Hi-Tech. No saldrán eñes, pero que buenas están las almendras! (Prueba también a activar el Windows Scripting Host por si acaso). Gracias por anticipado. Un saludo. Sandra. Nada, hombre. -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, aka Oskuro in|| [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Using Debian GNU/Linux Reinos de Leyenda || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://debian.org http://sindominio.net GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/917A225E telnet pusa.uv.es 23 73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC 2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E pgpmi9hoVDEEw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: No puedo publicar la ñ
Quien:Jordi Mallach Cuando: sábado, 05 de agosto del 2000, a las 04:12, Qué: Re: No puedo publicar la ñ Hola Joaquin-Sandra. On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 03:42:38PM +0200, Joaquin Saludes wrote: Acabo de actualizar a Office 2000 y estoy utilizando FrontPage 2000. Mi problema es que puedo redactar la página con la ñ, cuando la visualizo en el explorador me sale la ñ pero cuando la publico la ñ desaparece y en su lugar me sale un q. ¿Qué puedo hacer? Estoy empezando a sospechar que alguien a susbcrito 'algo' a esta lista. Ultimamente estan apareciendo demasiados mensajes que versan 'exclusivamente' sobre windows... En fin ... -- =8= ___ _ / ___|_ _| (_) ___ Grupo de Usuarios de LInux de Canarias | | _| | | | | |/ __| Pasate por nuestro web | |_| | |_| | | | (__ http://www.gulic.org/ \|\__,_|_|_|\___| Clave GPG en las paginas de Gulic Clave GPG en search.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = F734 17F5 3AB6 E1F6 11C4 B498 5B3E FEDF 90DF =8= pgpahcCYpwWo8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ayuda con inetd.conf
Kion_ wrote: Manipulando un poco el archivo /etc/inetd.conf, para tener un poco de seguridad me he dado de cuenta, de que el puerto 80 no esta en dicho archivo y pienso que por eso cuando utilizaba lynx no me aparecia nada en la pantalla. Ahorra mi pregunta es como configurar dicho archivo para tener el servicio abierto para poder navegar por la web libremente y si lo que dije anteriormente es correcto o simplemente deduccion logica (se me ocurrio!!!). Si no es mucha molestia alguien de la lista me podria decir, cuales son los codigos ASCII, que hay que meter en los archivo /etc/issue y /etc/motd, para tener mensajes personalizados; colores, valores, etc... Gracias por su tiempo y Adios. Saludos!!! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Que yo sepa desde hace tiempo la mayoría de la distribuciones no arrancan el servidor de web bajo el superdemonio inetd. Actualmente lo hacen en modo standalone (en modo solitario). Vete dentro de /etc/init.d, y allí (al menos en la slink es así) tendrás que tener el apache instalado. Si no lo tuvieras instálalo. Saludos.
RE: Slink en el portatil:descomprime el núcleo pero se bloquea
. At 20:09 03/08/00 +0200, you wrote: Hola, tras bucear en los CDs de la distro descubrí un archivo llamado ltecra. Lo copié a disquete y le cambié el nombre, pasándose a llamar linux. Introduzco el disquete en la disquetera y enciendo el sistema. Parece que marcha, ya no se bloquea al descomprimir el núcleo :), verifica todo, limpia /tmp, etc... pero llega un momento en el que pone: Updating locate database...done INIT: Entering runlevel:2 Starting system log daemon:syslogd klogd. Starting PCMCIA services: modules Y se queda tieso :( Mi gozo en un pozo. Tarjetas PC no tengo, solo está el puerto, ¿Qué puede ocurrir? Yo tenía el mismo problema que tu. Un sistema fácil de solucionarlo es usar el núcleo 'idepci'. No recuerdo que esté en Slink, sí en Potato. Ignasi _ \___||/ \__| els fills abandonats |___/ \_||__/ from BarcelonaCatalonia ___ Do You Yahoo!? Achetez, vendez! À votre prix! Sur http://encheres.yahoo.fr
Re: Ayuda con particion
Muy bueno :) Pero hay una cosa que no acabo de entender al respecto de poder crear particiones para otros SOs desde particionadores GNU. En la documentación de estos te recomienda que no hagas particiones de otros sistemas de ficheros que no sean los de GNU/L. Yo de hecho hace unos meses y un señor griego en debian-user tuvimos un cacao con las particiones FAT al hacer estas desde GNU fdisk (el DOS podía ver todo el disco duro). Al hacer la partición FAT desde M$ fdisk (y cargármelo todo) se acabó el problema. ¿Entonces por qué los particionadores GNU dan estas opciones? (por otra parte ya me gustaría no haber de hacerlas desde M$ fdisk o el Administrador de Discos, que cretinez de programas, el M$ fdisk no tiene perdón de Dios). [romeomp] No es NTSC. NTSC es el sistema de vídeo japonés/norteamericano. Es NTFS (NT FileSystem). Gracias por la lectura, Ignasi [...] ¿Estoy leyendo mal ...? ¿? En fin, por si sirve de ayuda ;) Desde Debian, llama al cfdisk, pasandole como parámetro el disco duro que quieras particionar, por ejemplo ```cfdisk /dev/hdc''' Particiona el disco a placer y decide en que partición quieres poner el NT. Entonces, te situas sobre esa particón y te vas a la opción que hay para especificar los ```Type''' de particiones. Elije la numero ```86''', que se corresponde con ```NTFS volume set'''. Con eso, ya tienes una partición preparada para tu NT... En cuanto a lo de formatearlo con NTFS o FAT, yo que tu me lo haría con EXT2 }:-) Post: Primero pensé en hechar una bronca por mandar semejante mensaje a esta lista, pero, como todo tiene su explicación, tras reflexionar entendí que lo que pretendía era hacercelo desde Debian. Era así, ¿no? ... _ \___||/ \__| els fills abandonats |___/ \_||__/ from BarcelonaCatalonia ___ Do You Yahoo!? Achetez, vendez! À votre prix! Sur http://encheres.yahoo.fr
Re: me tire el lilo...
Ricardo Adolfo Rodríguez wrote: Hola. Moviendo moviendo... le quite el tiempo de espera al lilo.. lo deje en 0, ahora no espera ni un momento y arranca sin previo aviso Cochino-windows (que lo tengo para jugar quake). No tengo disco de rescate.. no tengo unidad de CD, de donde me hago un disco para despues montar /dev/hda6 y poder editar /etc/lilo.conf ? He probado bajando algunas imagenes pero siempre algo anda mal con los discos. Muchas gracias Ricardo R. Cartago-Colombia -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Pues yo creo que con el disco de rescate de Debian debería ser suficiente. resc1440.bin o algo por el estilo. Visita la pagina de Debian allí habrá un enlace desde donde te lo puedas bajar. Si tienes el cdrom de Debian lo tendrás dentro. Si no puedes acceder a un sistema linux, deberás crearte la imagen en el disquete con la utilidad rawrite en dos. Suerte.
Re: Netscape
Santiago Romero wrote: El lun, 31 de jul de 2000, a las 10:24:51 +, Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez dijo: Alguien sabe porque el netscape en algunas paginas se cierra Gracias por adelantado. es un fallito en el path de una de las fuentes para las paginas que tienen JAVA. En mi page (seccion linux) http://web.jet.es/s.romero/ pone como se soluciona. salu2. -- ANTENA3 TV = MANIPULACION DE INFORMACION (=Telefonica). El hombre nunca es demasiado viejo para aprender. _-_ | NoP / Compiler -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---| | POWERED BY - Linux RedHat 6.0 - Reg. User #74.821 | | http://web.jet.es/s.romero | ~-~ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Podrías especificar exactamente donde explicas el problema del netscape. Gracias
Re: Gnome Y WMaker
JFreak decía: [...] ... me regalaron la distribucion Mandrake... forma del entorno que se puede usar de WindowMaker + Gnome, (que es lo que queria en Debian) es muy elegante y fue sencillisimo de hacer, solo tuve que configuar el Gnome para que utilizara el WindowMaker como manejador de ventanas y listo (tal como Yo uso el wmaker+gnome en slink sin nigún problema. Quizá si pruebas a compilar el wmaker con la opción gnome en el configure del wmaker no tendrás problemas. O conseguir el wmaker-gnome en paquete .deb: (carldeb:~\csalda-dpkg -s wmaker-gnome Package: wmaker-gnome Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 475 Maintainer: Chris McKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: wmaker Version: 0.61.1-0.slink.0 Depends: libc6, libjpeg62, libpng2, libproplist0, libtiff3g, libungif3g (= 3.0-2) | giflib3g (= 3.0-5.2), xlib6g (= 3.3.2.3a-2), xpm4g (= 3.4j-0), zlib1g (= 1:1.1.3), wmaker (= 0.61.1-0.slink.0), cpp, libproplist0 (= 0.9.1) Description: wmaker with GNOME support...) tal como yo hice, de un un cd de la dist Storm (basada en debian y con paquetes .deb). Ignoro si la potato ya trae el wmaker amigablemente compilado para gnome, pero podrías probar. O ir directo al ftp de stormlinux. A mí no me dieron ningún quebradero de cabeza los paquetes de la storm. Como apreciarás en las dependencias, deberás tener instalada una versión del wmaker igual a la del wmaker-gnome (las demás ya las tienes en tu slink). La instalación te pondrá un enlace simbólico desde /usr/X11R6/bin a /etc/alternatives. Si instalas además el wmaker-kde, imagino que deberás cambiar el enlace para usar el wmaker como gestor del kde en lugar de kwm. ... no tengo el Gnome-File-Control (no se si asi se llama, pero es el que se utiliza para ver los archivos del disco y todo eso...), en el Gnome-Control-Center debo de poner el Window-Mannager que quiero que Gnome utilice pero como dije antes no tengo esta opcion. El manejador de archivos es el gmc, paquete que puedes instalar sin más. Respecto a que no tengas la opción del wmaker en el centro de control del gnome, me remito a lo que te expuse más arriba. En mi centro de control, sección manejadores de ventanas, me aparecen el wmaker, icewm y el twm. Los dos primeros los saqué de la storm y el tercero viene por defecto con el gnome. Quizá en la potato ya vienen compilados para gnome (como con la woody pase lo mismo me pillo tarifa ondulada para eso el 2002... ). Como comentario acerca de la amistosidad comparto con muchos el hecho de que esa amistosidad solo es cuestion de gustos... Bueno, aquí, aparte de la famosa palabrita, se suele exponer la lentitud que ha estigmatizado la salida de la potato. Y sí, la palabreja amistosidad es cuestión de gustos, pues para mí, tras la superación inicial del dselect, me rusultó muy amigable la debian. Sobretodo porque, acostumbrado a un disco pequeño, poder tener todos los servicios (www, noticias, correo, proxy, etc, etc, etc.) en menos de 200Mb, me resultaba, además de amigable, útil. Y con la ventaja que no me daba la slak de atualizaciones rápidas y fiables (eran otros tiempos, claro; aunque en mi pueblo las patatass se siembran para Pascua y se recolectan en junio invariablemente año tras año...). Jamás he conseguido instalar una dist con paquetes .rpm en menos de 500Mb. Pero debo reconocer que, tal vez por la edad, soy un tanto torpe con esto de los entornos amigables: nunca logré configurar el Outloock. Por no hablar del trabajo que me dá decirle al OSR2 que los conductores de mi tarjeta gráfica, hechos para su hermano pequeño, son válidos y que aquel trague... Hoy las cosas son muy diferentes, sabiando los conceptos minimos no es tan dificil instalar la Debian, he probado otras distribuciones y en lo personal siento que en algunas se esta tratando de windomizar Linux, o ^ Ya me perdonarás, pero el término que has elegido queda un poco como... ¿sodomizar? sea hacer que el usuario se sienta como en windows al utilizar Linux, hasta los iconos son muy perecidos, de una forma muy personal no estoy de acuerdo con esto, a mi no me gusta, no significa que sea malo, para mi la Debian es todo lo que necesito y no tiene nada que envidiar a ninguna de las otras distribuciones. No sólo eso, sino que algunas dists envidian a la debian: ¿te fijaste que la Mandrake dá la opción de poner un script para borrar el /tmp durante el inicio? Y alguna cosilla más típica de debian, que ahora no recuerdo (¿tal vez el upadates-menu?), le encontré cuando se la instalé a una amiga -a la que, por cierto, el entorno de instalación de la Mandrake no le resultó nada amigable-. De todas formas yo no veo nada mal las posibilidades que ofrece la diversidad. Esta amiga en cuestión se quedó entusiasmada al ver que mi empecinado linux arrancaba en modo gráfico y tenía el mismo navegador que el güindos (kde-explorer o algo similar)... Si bien jamás la
Re: No puedo publicar la ñ
El sábado 05 de agosto de 2000 a la(s) 15:42:38 +0200, Joaquin Saludes contaba: Acabo de actualizar a Office 2000 y estoy utilizando FrontPage 2000. Toi pensando en comprar el ofis 2000, ¿cuánto te ha costado? y en su lugar me sale un q. ¿Qué puedo hacer? Instala Linux :^P. Probablemente te funcionen mal las bs, del, la ñ, los tildes y algunos detalles más, pero aprenderás más sobre el teclado que en cualquier otro sitio. -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.15 - Reg. User #87069 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgpAMXt1z0cJd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Núcleo ltecra
El sábado 05 de agosto de 2000 a la(s) 15:45:39 +0200, Fermín Manzanedo contaba: Pero ahora quiero dar un paso más: Copié el núcleo ltecra a un disquete y le puse el nombre de linux, pero lo que me gustaría es poder arrancar con LILO desde el disco duro. Para ello me imagino que habrá que recompilar el núcleo, ¿o no?, ¿o solo basta con sustituir el linux que tenga en el disco duro por el que tengo en el disquete? Basta con eso y ejecutar lilo. Pero por si acaso, te recomiendo que no borres el núcleo que funciona. Mete el del floppy en /boot con otro nombre y añade lo correspondiente al lilo.conf. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.15 - Reg. User #87069 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgpKKIR7Fe8ZV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Las empresas se dejan debianizar?
Y Debian lo tiene bastante resuelto con sus perfiles de instalacion. Puede que debiesen ser mas abundantes, o puede opinarse sobre lo que dichos perfiles te instalan, pero al menos la cosa ya esta andando. Y el tan odiado dselect me parece estupendo para saber de que se dispone y de que no; quizas solo con retocar un poco las teclas y hacerle un front-end curiosete para usuarios noveles la cosa seria mucho mas util. Debian lo tiene más resuelto de lo que pudiera parecer, hay montones de front-ends para el apt-get, como el console-apt. Además ¿ conoceis el tasksel ?, Ademas de que, aunque tienda a olvidarse, existen ordenadores con pocos recursos que aun pueden prestar grandes servicios, o simplemente maquinas que no tienen por que tirar de entorno grafico. En eso estoy más que de acuerdo. Me viene a la cabeza un bridge de esos que cuestan un ojo de la cara que un colega se montó con un pentium a 133, 32 Mb de ram y una docena de tarjetas de red ( con espansores de bus ) daba gloria verlo, y el solito llevaba una red de más de 200 ordenadores sin problemas. Todo eso me parece bien, y es necesario, pero valorando bien los inconvenientes. Las autodetecciones de hard parecen conllevar riesgos de cuelgues. Las instalaciones rapidas y automaticas tienen tendencia a convertirse en monstruos que te instalan mas cosas de las que quieres, y al final el usuario no sabe ni lo que tiene instalado realmente. Bueno hay cosas que no veo tan difíciles, por ejemplo en /proc/pci tienes todos los dispositivos pci listados. ¿ Para qué te pregunta qué tarjeta gráfica tienes ?, creo que hasta yo - que soy muy burro - podría hacer un script que instale el controlador para x necesario según esos datos ... y se solucionarían el 90 % de las consultas en los canales de irc de linux. -- Saludos a tos tos Javier Fafián Alvarez | Te pasas la vida haciendo planes, en un AMD-K6II a 350| pero la vida ya tiene sus RAM 64 Mb kernel 2.2.16 | propios planes ... Con Linux Debian woody (unestable) | -- JFA --
Re: Ayuda con tema ICEwm
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 11:03:29AM -0700, Ezequiel wrote: Hola, se que esta pregunta no es muy especifica para esta lista pero quiza alguno pueda ayudarme. Comenze a utilizar icewm con mi sistema Debian en X, bajando el window manager y algunos temas del web, pero no logro encontrar el tema fvwm, mi preferido cuando utilizaba slink (ya no dispongo del CD), parece que han retirado este tema del sitio de temas de ice. Agradeceria mucho si alguien puediera decirme donde buscar ese tema en especifico o enviarmelo si no es mucho pedir. Gracias a todos. ¿ Ya has buscado en el paquete icewm-themes ? -- Saludos a tos tos Javier Fafián Alvarez | Te pasas la vida haciendo planes, en un AMD-K6II a 350| pero la vida ya tiene sus RAM 64 Mb kernel 2.2.16 | propios planes ... Con Linux Debian woody (unestable) | -- JFA --
Problemas de dependencia.
Saludos de nuevo a todos, les planteo mis dudas a ver si alguien me hiciera el favor de responder, por que, he instendo con todo y naaa. Mi problema se presenta cuando intento compilar el paquete kaffe, lo hago con el programa dpgk y le paso el siguiente parametro -i y el nombre del paquete deb, entonces me sale el siguiente mensaje, por lo que entiendo no tengo esos archivos en mi Linux, pero los he buscado en el sitio oficial de Debian y n. Aqui les muestro. failed dependencies: /sbin/ldconfig is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 ld-linux.so.2 is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libICE.so.6 is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libSM.so.6 is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libX11.so.6 is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libXext.so.6 is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libc.so.6 is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libdl.so.2 is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libjpeg.so.62 is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libm.so.6 is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libpng.so.2 is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libungif.so.4 is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libz.so.1 is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 /bin/sh is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by kaffe-1.0.5-6 Espero que me puedan ayudar y gracias...
Re: System locked and now complains at startup about modules
:: On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:21:42 -0700 (PDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello Nate. Thanks a lot for replying. Here are the specs: Pentium II 400 Mhz, Motherboard DFI PA61 ATX (VIA Apollo Pro 133 chipset - 693/596b) (Absolutely nothing on-board) Award BIOS 64 Mb RAM (no ECC...) Video Card Diamond SpeedStar A50 (SiS 6326 AGP, not on-board) HD: Western Digital Caviar, 13.5 Gb, 7200 RPM With stable kernels, I use ATA/33 With unstable kernels, I managed to get a patch to use ATA/66. (I still didn't completely rule out ATA66, but... The system locked with a stable kernel (and hence, with ATA33) BTW, I have checked to see if I could find anything related to problems with this chipset and HD, but found nothing. pelleg To see what could be the problem, I left the system with xmms running pelleg while I was out for 4 hours. When I came back, the keyboard was pelleg non-functionl, and nothing worked... Since it's a standalone box, I pelleg hadto reset it. I was sort of expecting this (I was actually trying to pelleg rule out some applications that could be locking the system) best thing to rule out first is X windows, disable X from starting: if you run X from a login screen like KDM/GDM/XDM remove the link: No, I use startx... pelleg What could be happening? (I mean, why would it just ignore the pelleg comments and treat them like listed modules to be loaded?) I can't imagine a reason why it would, something else may be wrong, but the end result is harmless. Hm, waht about the fact that it only happened after this lock? I thought that perhaps this could mean filesystem corruption... pelleg I really don't understand what's going on... I suspected that my pelleg memory could be bad, but I've compiled lots of big packages (including pelleg several kernels, sometimes every two days), for months and never got a pelleg sig11. check the kernel log /var/log/kern.log if the kernel encounters an error it will be reported there, assuming it is not a serious hardware problem which causes the machine to freeze before the kernel can report anything. Nothing there... Actually, it jumps from Aug, 4 to Aug, 21:50 (when I resetted the machine). And the messages begin with the new boot... Nothing in the period in which it crashed. pelleg I'm beginning to suspect this may be: pelleg pelleg - PS/2 mouse (these locks began to happen after I got a new mouse) what brand/model of mouse? I got it from a cousin... It's a Leadership mouse, made in China. Ordinary 3-button PS/2 mouse, it seems... and what kind of mainboard? i had serious PS/2 trouble on an old AOpen AP5T-3, after a few months the PS/2 port worked intermittantly(sp) maybe one out of 10 boots and even then would cause random crashes, eventually i just moved to a serial mouse.(that motherboard is still in service after 3 years it currently runs mandrake7.0 and acts solely as a TV for my bedroom) Hmmm... Maybe I should get a serial mouse... pelleg - X 3.3.6 (no problems happened with X 4) pelleg - video card (SiS 6326 AGP) what video mode are you running in? 1280x1240. I've been using this mode, with this card... For months! and are you using a framebuffer X server? I believe there is no support to that for this card yet... again i would reccomend not running X to see if X has something to do with it, X can be a very good center place for lockups. Hm, just now I realize... I use flwm as a window manager (fast, small, and not configurable at all). I did compile it myself here (and I think I tried to include some compiler options to optimize it a little bit, like --arch=pentiumpro)... And packaged. Now I've reverted to the .deb I had before... But could this be a problem? I mean... Building the package myself? I was confident that the same package compiled by the mantainer could be compiled here... You know... We can even do that automatically with apt-get... :-) if you run X, i would also suggest redirecting the output to a logfile, when you login run: startx X.log all output will be saved to X.log, if there is a crash check it to see if any helpful info is available. Right... I forgot to do that, but will next time. pelleg Next thing I'll do is to compile X 4.0.1 and see if the problem goes pelleg away. If it does, then (and I'd be surprised) it'd be an X-3.3.6 pelleg problem... is it onboard video? if so do you have another video card to try? i wouldnt reccomend going to XF86 4.0.1 if you can avoid it its likely to be more buggy then XF86 3.3.6 for that video card(but i could be wrong) Actually, I did use 4.0.1 for a few days, and it didn't crash... But it may have been too little time. (I thought this could be a reasonable option, since the code is a lot different from that of 3.3.6) hope this helps! Yes, that helped a lot already. nate J. -- Jeronimo Pellegrini Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~jeronimo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: potato installation problem: lp driver; get init_module: Device or resource busy message: MORE DATA
I'm having trouble with the current pre-release of potato. I can't tell if this is a bug, an odd incompatibility in my system (which works fine with slink), or something I'm doing wrong. When I get to the step of configuring device drivers, I can't install module lp. ... Here's something else I noticed: When the system boots, right before the first installation program dialog comes up, a number of repeated messages flash by on the screen, saying (approximately--they flashed by): ... modprobe: can't open dependency file /lib/modules/2.2.17/modules.dep Also, I noticed a message on the fourth virtual console (I had booted with linux verbose debug): kmod: runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped I tried running modprobe from the command line, and got the same error message (one). Are those messages normal? -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hmm. A little worrisome: http://www.junkbusters.com/cgi-bin/privacy http://www.anonymizer.com/snoop.cgi )
VMware with potato - any issues?
I'm just about to try VMware on my potato system to run Win 95 or 98. Are there any problems to know about? ...RickM...
isapnptools
Is there a deb isapnptools package? I'm trying to set up kernel 2.2.16 to autoconfig my soundcard and it's not showing anything about isapnp in dmesg. I think I've got all the swithces right, and I've gotten it to autoload the modules for my yamaha oplsax soundcard before. any help or suggestions appreciated. thanks
Re: @home network
Jaron Abbott wrote: Hello, I'm wondering if anybody can help me figure out how to connect two computers to one net connection (@home network). The computer I want to add is a Debian box (potato), the currently connected computer is a Windoze box. I'd like to be able to run stuff like sshd, apache, etc. off the Debian box, but I don't want to take net access away from the Windoze computer. I've thought about getting another NIC, so that the Debian box would have two NICs -- one connected to the net, the other to the Windoze box. However, I have no idea how I would set something like this up, what software, documentation, etc. Perhaps this isn't the best solution, even if I could get it to work. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Jaron --- The device you need is an ethernet hub. They are available with several connections. The hub connects to the cable modem. each computer connects to the hub. Each computer will need its own ip address if you use static ip's. If your cable company uses DHCP or Boot p addressing schemes, you will need to work out the details with them. Either way you will need to work through them to get both boxes connected. There are other ways to do this, but in my opinion this is the easiest most secure process. Good luck. -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Re: @home network
I just got an @home cablemodem last weekend and I've been running ipmasq for quite some time over a normal dialup. The short answer is that you can connect as many computers through your service as you like, using only one IP address, and you don't really need two ethernet cards in any of the computers (although I highly recommend it). First off, @home (supposedly) uses standard DHCP to assign your computer its net parameters (IP, gateway, netmask, DNS, and domain name). I have not been able to get DHCP working here using either windows or linux, so I cannot speak for their DHCP. However, I can tell you that their very first solution to DHCP problems is to give you your static IP address. It seems their DHCP service is none too reliable to start with. In practice, the DHCP only exists to make it easier for the customer because they don't need to remember any numbers. Just click on automatic and off you go. Every customer has a preassigned IP and they will always get that same IP assigned by DHCP. So just use the settings from your windows box directly if you can't get DHCP working on your linux box. Pay careful attention to the netmask though -- 24.*.*.* defaults to 255.0.0.0 (class A) in most software, but they want you to use 255.255.255.0 (class C). Now, on to the fun stuff. As you should have guessed from the above, I am going to describe how to setup your linux box as a gateway to the net using the @home service. If you want to continue using the windows box as the gateway, go check out some of the windows software that is available for this purpose. There are several free, shareware, and commercial solutions. The most widely known is probably WinGate. But none will be nearly as flexible or give you as much satisfaction as using linux as your gateway. :) I'm going to explain things in some detail so just skip over what you are already familiar with. Conceptually, you want a network that looks like this (view in a monospaced font): -- | CM |-- To the net -- | --- | | | - - - | A | | B | | C | - - - CM is your cablemodem and A, B, C are computers on your network. This setup would require three IP addresses though. Not only do they charge extra for more IP addresses, all your computers are now exposed to the net, multiplying your security concerns considerably. Let's insert a gateway machine here, GW, that can direct traffic between your internal network and the real world using only one external IP address. This is called IP masquerading or, in the more general sense NAT (Network Address Translation): -- -- | GW |---| CM |-- To the net -- -- | --- | | | - - - | A | | B | | C | - - - For the sake of simplicity, we will assume that GW has two ethernet cards. The one connected to the ethernet with A, B and C (call it eth0) will use a private internal IP address and the other one (call it eth1) will use your public @home IP address. A good IP address range to use for a private intranet is 192.168.1.*. This is one portion of the officially designated private intranet addressing space and you will never see these IP addresses on the net. So we will configure eth0 on GW with address 192.168.1.1 and the other machines with 192.168.1.2, 192.168.1.3, etc. The other card gets your public IP (call it 172.16.10.42 for sake of explanation). So: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig eth1 172.16.10.42 netmask 255.255.255.0 The routes to these networks should be added automatically and you can verify by running route -n: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 172.16.10.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 Now we need to tell the machine that our cablemodem is the gateway to The Net, so (if .1 is your @home gateway): route add default gw 172.16.10.1 Now your GW machine should be able to ping A, B, C, and anything on the net by using IP addresses. Now would be a good time to update your /etc/resolv.conf for your local @home parameters so DNS works. You will also need to be aware of your local subdomain for configuring mail and such. For example, my @home mailserver is mail.sttln1.wa.home.com (my @home domain is sttln1.wa.home.com). Now the masquerading. The machine GW needs to route packets from machines A, B and C that are destined for The Net and make it appear that all the packets are coming from GW itself. The bare minimum required to accomplish this is to execute this command on GW: ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.10.0/24 -d ! 192.168.10.0/24 -j MASQ Configure the machines A, B and C with their gateway set to 192.168.10.1 and setup their DNS, and your should
Re: isapnptools
Yes, there is... apt-get install isapnptools. Basically what you need to do is type (as root) pnpdump /etc/isapnp.conf and then edit that isapnp.conf file to comment out the correct settings for your sound card. Refer to the documentation in /usr/share/doc/isapnptools. Take my advice with a grain of salt, because I couldn't get isapnptools + OSS/Lite kernel modules to work for me in Debian (for my AWE64), and I had to resort to alsa drivers to get my sound card to work. (And if anyone would like to help me get the OSS/Lite drivers to work, I'd appreciate it) Tom On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 03:19:17PM -0700, Dale Morris wrote: Is there a deb isapnptools package? I'm trying to set up kernel 2.2.16 to autoconfig my soundcard and it's not showing anything about isapnp in dmesg. I think I've got all the swithces right, and I've gotten it to autoload the modules for my yamaha oplsax soundcard before. any help or suggestions appreciated. thanks
Re: @home network
The third number in each of the addresses below should be 1, not 10. Sorry about the typos. ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.10.0/24 -d ! 192.168.10.0/24 -j MASQ Configure the machines A, B and C with their gateway set to 192.168.10.1 and setup their DNS, and your should be set.
Xfree mouse trouble
Hello, Just finished installing my first debian system (potato) by the floppy method. Everything is great except trying to use my mouse in X. The slightest touch of the mouse causes it to go berserk - flying all over the screen and briefly displaying popup menus eventhough I'm not pressing any buttons. I can use the mouse just fine in terminal mode to highlight text and paste the text using the middle button, so I think my hardware is ok. Any clues? My system is an AsusP2B, PII-400, PS/2 Logitech 3-button mouse. I was previosly running Slackware 7.0 w/o a problem. I configured X with xf86config and chose the ps/2 option, and I'm not emulating 3-buttons Living in Lynx Land, Jeremiah
Re: Xfree mouse trouble
screen and briefly displaying popup menus eventhough I'm not pressing any buttons. I can use the mouse just fine in terminal mode to highlight text and paste the text using the middle button, so I think my hardware is ok. Any clues? A very easy way to fix this would be to use the mouse in X through GPM (the program that is used to support the mouse in terminal mode). You can do this by running gpmconfig and telling it to use the -R flag (or optionally by editing /etc/gpm.conf to do the same thing); then, when you set up X, set it up to use the device /dev/gpmdata and the protocol MouseSystems. This is what I have ended up doing with both my old M$ Intellimouse PS/2 and my new wireless logitech 4-button mouse w/wheel, because both of these didn't seem to work in X no matter what I tried. Hrm, perhaps I'll post to the list about my wireless mouse troubles, since i would really like to be able to use the wheel and perhaps the 4th button :D Good luck. -- Jared Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is your concern when your neighbor's wall is on fire. -- Quintus Horatius Flaccus (Horace) -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS/C d+(-)-- s:+ a18 C$ UL$ P+ L+++ E--- W+ N+ o? K- w--- !O M-- V-- !PS !PE Y PGP- t+ 5-- X R-- tv- b+ DI+ !D G e++(+++) h-- r* y-(+++) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Volunteers needed for MashPotato tech support crew in #Debian on irc.debian.org around August 15.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, this is Andrew Netsnipe Lau from #debian at irc.debian.org calling out for volunteers who know a bit of Debian GNU/Linux and can offer a part of time to help others. As many of you are well aware, the third test cycle of Debian is about to end soon, schedules on August 15 (no guarantees or leaks here), and quite possibly, if we're lucky will officially become stable. Debian itself, unfortunately, despite progress in this area over the last year or two, has never been an easy to install or configurable distribution for the beginner. Remember the first time as a Linux newbie when you installed Debian and were intimidated by dselect (thank goodness tasksel has been introduced). How long did it take you to get X or sound running on your own, or even when you switched distributions? We here at #debian, the official IRC chatroom of Debian have decided that when Potato 2.2 does officially become stable, that we will provide the most comprehensive Debian GNU/Linux support service that we can to users both new and old. However, being the official IRC room, #debian will be overwhelmed with literally hundreds of users seeking installation and configuration help. The task would be quite daunting for regulars there as we already handle several dozen help requests a day. Hence the Potato release now has a dedicated IRC tech support crew nicknamed the Mobile Array of Support Helpers for Potato (MashPotato) which serve around the clock for users around the world. To make things easier, we will also divert users to different channels from #debian to for example #debian-install and #debian-x, #debian-sound, #debian-gnome. However, we will be lacking in numbers of people to answer the multitudes of help. To sign up for the roster list for MashPotato, just come into #debian and type in apt roster for further details, and return over the next few days for more details. You don't need to be using Potato, but any Debian-based help provided will be greatly appreciated. So please, for the sake of new users, please volunteer for MashPotato and help promote the Debian GNU/Linux community to new users as well. Debian is much more than yet another Linux distribution. It has a fine tradition of being a community which distinguishes it as one of the best Linux distributions out there. Let's keep it that way. Yours sincerely, Andrew Netsnipe Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 2194697 PS: MashPotato is not an official organization or division of the Debian GNU/Linux project, however we do have members and links with those who hang around at #debian. MashPotato is a volunteer group run by people at #Debian in the spirit of the project. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.3 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOYoy8LkiQgasmtMtEQKVqACgvSh5hIOVQB/8GhKYY604S9n38ccAn3H7 BA2sl+jXzy5bg6RKjoH6uynY =FRgK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
wvdial
Bonjour, I try to configure my /etc/wvdial.conf file to have a better modem connexion . potato i386 and modem Olitec speedcomm2000 It's strange, with a single line like : Init1 = ATZ The result is nearly the same than with for exemple : Init1 = ATZ Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 S11=55 +FCLASS=0 Init3 = ATE0V1C1D2Q0S0=0W2S95=43 # Init3 = ATE0V1C1D2Q0S0=0W2S95=47 # Init4 = ATS7=60S30=0L1M1\N3%C3K3B0X4 # Init5 = AT+MS=56,1,32000,56000 # Init5 = AT+MS=12,1,28000,56000 # Init5 = ATFK3B24 I've tried many of those stanges line, . What is the best to do to improve a modem connexion ? Patrick
Re: Xfree mouse trouble
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Jared Johnson wrote: screen and briefly displaying popup menus eventhough I'm not pressing any buttons. I can use the mouse just fine in terminal mode to highlight text and paste the text using the middle button, so I think my hardware is ok. Any clues? A very easy way to fix this would be to use the mouse in X through GPM (the program that is used to support the mouse in terminal mode). You can do this by running gpmconfig and telling it to use the -R flag (or optionally by editing /etc/gpm.conf to do the same thing); then, when you set up X, set it up to use the device /dev/gpmdata and the protocol MouseSystems. Thanks for the help. I edited /etc/X11/XF86Config so that the Pointer Device is /dev/gpmdata and the Protocol Microsoft (how horrible...) and the mouse works now. Jeremiah
Re: dual boot with lilo Linux on slave drive
At 01:02 PM 8/4/00 +0100, Wilson Yau wrote: Can lilo installed on MBR of the 2nd HD handle dual boot at boot time? If yes, how? I'm not an expert, but I couldn't get that configuration to work. It really seems best to have LILO on the first drive - I made a /boot partition on hda, and edited etc/lilo.conf to reflect that. The Linux root partition is on the second drive, but the kernel image is in /boot, on the first drive. You also have to make /boot an active (bootable) partition with Linux fdisk, or some other utility. And run /sbin/lilo from root to update your configuration. Torrey
sendmsg problem
Hi When I boot my box, I get this message: rpc.statd forgot to set AF_INET in udp sendmsg. Fix it! After that, the following message is repeated about 25 times with about a 12 second interval: RPC: sendmsg returned error 101 Then the boot process i continued. Please help me fix this! -- Marcus Clarén [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: potato installation problem: lp driver; get init_module: Device or resource busy message: MORE DATA
* Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000805 11:57]: When I get to the step of configuring device drivers, I can't install module lp. ... Here's something else I noticed: When the system boots, right before the first installation program dialog comes up, a number of repeated messages flash by on the screen, saying (approximately--they flashed by): ... modprobe: can't open dependency file /lib/modules/2.2.17/modules.dep Try running depmod -a by hand (as root); this command will make your modules.dep. If this is ok, take a look at /etc/init.d/modutils: this script run depmod at init; see if a symlink (S20modutils) to this file exist in /etc/rsS.d -- David
Re: System locked and now complains at startup about modules
* Jeronimo Pellegrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000805 11:57]:
To see what could be the problem, I left the system with xmms running
while I was out for 4 hours. When I came back, the keyboard was
non-functionl, and nothing worked... Since it's a standalone box, I
hadto reset it. I was sort of expecting this (I was actually trying to
rule out some applications that could be locking the system)
Two weeks ago I tried xmms with the same result: a locked system; I
think this app is broken. Don't use it (try freeamp), and see what
happen.
But at startup, it now makes strange complaints, like:
modprobe: can't locate module #
modprobe: can't locate module are
modprobe: can't locate module with
But these are parts of commented lines in /etc/modules!!!
As you say, this is not a problem; but only for curiosity, take a look
at /etc/init.d/modutils: this script parses /etc/modules at init with a
loop; mine (from potato) is:
# Loop over every line in /etc/modules.
echo -n 'Loading modules: '
(cat /etc/modules; echo) | # make sure there is a LF at the end
while read module args
do
case $module in
auto) [ ${startkerneld} -eq 0 -a -x /sbin/kerneld ] \
echo /etc/init.d/kerneld start startkerneld=1;
continue ;;
noauto) continue ;;
\#*|) continue ;; # - this strip comments
esac
echo -n $module
modprobe $module $args
done
Play doing this by hand, or make a test script using echo to see what's
going on.
--
David
Fwd: Re: Can't get online
Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/---BeginMessage--- As far as I can tell it doesn't recognize my Ethernet card. It gives error messages when booting that scroll before I can read them. Something like Network unreachable and I saw something about eth0. I couldn't find anything that looked relavant in /var/logs and looking at the Ethernet-HOWTO it said that kernels before 2.0.31 might not recognize my RealTek 8029, but Slink uses 2.0.36. I know Linux can recognize my card because it worked in RedHat 6.2. I just can't figure out how to do it myself! --- Andrei Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What seems to be the problem? Read Ethernet-HOWTO for specific card installations. Basically, main thing is to get ethernet card working correctly. dhcpcd will take it from there. Any error messages in logs, what are the symptoms? Andrei __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ---End Message---
Re: VMware with potato - any issues?
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 10:59:10PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: I'm just about to try VMware on my potato system to run Win 95 or 98. Are there any problems to know about? It works like a charm. Win4Lin also works (less features, but faster), but was a bit more of a hassle to set up (ymmv). -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
Journaling file system
Does anyone know if there is a workable journaling file system for Debian yet? Thanks for any input. Steve
only running one emacs..
If I got emacs running and type emacs somefile, I'd like the emacs I already got running to open the file, not start a new emacs (atleast if I'm not in X). How? Thanks!
Re: potato installation problem: lp driver; get init_module: Device or resource busy message
lp1 at 0x0378, (polling) Maybe it should be lp0? John Maybe that's the problem? Using Linux
Re: Journaling file system
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 09:50:00AM +, steve doerr wrote: Does anyone know if there is a workable journaling file system for Debian yet? there are Journaling FileSystems for Linux, yes. but, all are still beta or alpha.. o ReiserFS: a JFS, which uses a B-Tree (afaik beta), o Ext3: it adds Journaling-capabilities to ext2 (afaik alpha), there are also some other... XFS (from SGI) and JFS (from IBM)... both alpha, afaik. i don't know how usable they are. moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */
Re: only running one emacs..
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 05:06:42PM +0200, Jonas Moberg wrote: If I got emacs running and type emacs somefile, I'd like the emacs I already got running to open the file, not start a new emacs (atleast if I'm not in X). How? info -f /usr/share/info/emacs-e20.gz and search for 'server'... or man emacslient.. moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */
Re: VMware with potato - any issues?
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 10:59:10PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: I'm just about to try VMware on my potato system to run Win 95 or 98. Are there any problems to know about? It works like a charm. Good to hear! It would be nice to see Debian listed in their supported distribution list. Win4Lin also works (less features, but faster), but was a bit more of a hassle to set up (ymmv). I successfully run Quicken2000 under wine. I now would like to run some audio software that needs to record from CD or audio IN (from a cassette, etc). These programs slow music down while keeping the pitch constant (for learning guitar solos, etc). I think I checked and Win4Lin doesn't handle sound. The vmware page says that sound _input_ is now supported in v2.x. I don't suppose that you've accessed sound in this way? ...RickM...
Re: C programming
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote: I suggest going to comp.lang.c and checking the C FAQ. Specifically look for the inherent problem of putting the same variable on both sides of a relational operator: (x+y) x In this case, a little algebra shows that all you need to check is y 0. That's legal and defined. Cheers, Phil Mendelsohn -- Lottery:a tax on people who are bad at math
Re: Loading fetchmail man page in Gnome-help uses all memory
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 08:54:05PM +0100, Lee Elliott wrote: Hello list, I noticed a curious thing this evening - when I load the fetchmail man page in the Gnome help browser, it grabs all my memory - 256MB and ramps up swap usage until all that's gone too - another 256MB - previously none was used. CPU utilisation runs at about 75% on both cpus (SMP system) while this happens. This all takes about 10 seconds on this system. It then frees all the memory, effectively flushing the cache and buffer memory, and displays the fetchmail man page ok. Apart from the cpus being tied up, there's no other obvious effects or consequences - nothing crashes (tried a kernel compile and running Netscape) and the system then seems fine, although swap usage doesn't return to 0MB immediately but seems to drop off over time, probably as the system moves stuff back into main memory. I just logged out and back in and that cleared most of the swap - only 9.5MB used now, down from 64MB after loading the man page several times, dropping to 29MB just before I logged out. There don't seem to be any spurious processes left hanging around. This happens on consecutive loads on this man page: start Gnome help, select Man Pages, select User Commands, select fetchmail - memory used. Use the Back button, select User Commands (again), select fetchmail - memory used. I've got three discrete 2.2.17 Potatos on this system, all with the same s/w installed - I've tried it on two of them with identical results - reboots make no difference. At least it shows I'm keeping them in step;) This doesn't happen if the fetchmail man page is loaded from a Gnome term: 'man fetchmail' Yep! Same on my machine ( potato, kernel 2.2.13, 64 MB + 150 MB swap ) dmesg gives: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for procmeter3... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for init... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for procmeter3... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for tasklist_applet... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for XF86_SVGA... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for procmeter3... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for mount... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for procmeter3... No. Nothing like that on my machine . I'm getting really crappy conections at the moment so I've not been able to check the bug list, but if any one else gets the same behaviour I'll check it out and raise a bug if neccessary. I noticed that the man page of fetchmail is quite long. Gnome Helper calls 'gnome-man2html' to convert man pages into html pages, and probably this is the program which sucks so much memory and CPU. Dunno if this counts as a bug, though. LeeE -- Ciao -- FB
Re: VMware with potato - any issues?
Rick Macdonald wrote: I'm just about to try VMware on my potato system to run Win 95 or 98. Are there any problems to know about? ...RickM... If you have managed to get Quicken 2000 running under wine (I bow), you should have no problems getting VMware to run on Debian potato. You can install it exactly according to their instructions and it works fine. One note: there is a choice between an rpm install and a tar.gz install. I had no problems with the tar.gz, while I've seen where others have run into complications trying to install the rpm package on Debian via alien. Tom
Re: Journaling file system
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... Does anyone know if there is a workable journaling file system for Debian yet? * reiserfs - it's a mostly-journalling file system, and should be quite stable (can't quite bring myself to use it on my own systems. Some on debian-user have used with with good success, however). * ext3 - full journalling extensions onto ext2. It's been used to good effect on some high-volume sites (www.rpmfind.net for one). Sadly, the patches for 2.2.16 are RedHat- specific :(. The patches for 2.2.17preXX should be more generic. I have the archive if you want it. * jfs - The journaling file system from IBM's AIX. The patches are still very much alpha - don't even think about it if you're not running Linux on i386. It reportedly works well, though. * xfs - The journaling file system from SGI's Irix. Haven't heard how well it works. Note that out of all of these, only reiserfs has been ported to the 2.4.0-testX series. Even so, it's nice to have choices, isn't it :) -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstien
Re: Eterm upgrade
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 09:47:54AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: I just updated from eterm_0.8.10-10 to eterm_0.9.0-7 last night. Although the new version plays much more nicely with WindowMaker, the process has been somewhat less than pleasant, what with changes to configuration options and even the name of the theme files changeing, but I've got it mostly working now. A few problems persist, however: - Most importantly, my Home and End keys no longer work. I tried installing the Eterm.ti from /usr/share/doc/eterm, but it came back with a number of errors. I've also tried changing $TERM from xterm (the new default) to xterm-debian (the old default), but that had no effect - either way, home/ end just beep and display a ~. - Menus do not appear to be functional. theme.cfg includes menus.cfg, which I assume to be valid, but no menu appears. - When pasting text into an Eterm, the cursor changes into a hollow block, which typically indicates a nonfocused window, even though the Eterm retains focus. Moving the mouse over another window and back (I use sloppy focus mode) restores it, but it can be a tad confusing... Any tips on fixing these problems (other than go back to 0.8.10)? I've noticed that the Save Current Settings in Potato's Eterm version is horribly broken, but haven't had time to figure out why it is on my system. It saves config files that completely trash my keyboard mappings and then Eterm doesn't work, so I end up manually hacking away at MAIN until it's right again. In your case the whole package seems broken. Have you attempted a complete removal of the Eterm package with 'apt-get remove --purge Eterm' and a re-install to see if the broken paths will work? Just a thought... -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key fingerprint = DCAF 2B9D CC9B 96FA 7A6D AAF4 2D61 77C5 7ECE C1D2 Public Key available upon request, or at wwwkeys.pgp.net and others. pgpPXheEotNdu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Eterm upgrade
Nate Duehr said: I've noticed that the Save Current Settings in Potato's Eterm version is horribly broken, And I've never even noticed that there was a Save Current Settings... In your case the whole package seems broken. Have you attempted a complete removal of the Eterm package with 'apt-get remove --purge Eterm' and a re-install to see if the broken paths will work? I actually managed to get Home/End working by installing the latest ncurses-base (which includes updated terminfo files), but haven't managed to find anything to fix the menus or the cursor oddness. I think I'll have to try the purge-and-reinstall to see if it cleans those up. -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: C programming
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 11:31:02AM -0500, Philip C Mendelsohn wrote: On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote: I suggest going to comp.lang.c and checking the C FAQ. Specifically look for the inherent problem of putting the same variable on both sides of a relational operator: (x+y) x In this case, a little algebra shows that all you need to check is y 0. That's legal and defined. Yup. But I think the assignment of z = x+y makes z-x quicker then the evaluation of x+y - x. It's a floating point precision thing... -- MegaHAL quote: I think a blowpipe is a marijuana cigarrette. It'll get you deleted!
Re: Journaling file system
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 11:57:36AM -0500, Phil Brutsche wrote: Note that out of all of these, only reiserfs has been ported to the 2.4.0-testX series. Actually, xfs has been ported too. I just saw on freshmeat an announcement of xfs for linux-2.4.0-test5. The website for the project is here: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ And for the brave, the patches can be downloaded from here: ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/download/ For those looking for a journaling filesystem right now I would go for Reiserfs (http://devlinux.com/projects/reiserfs/). It has had quiet a bit of testing, and it just barely missed inclusion in 2.4. -- // André
Re: Eterm upgrade
Dave Sherohman said: I actually managed to get Home/End working by installing the latest ncurses-base (which includes updated terminfo files), but haven't managed to find anything to fix the menus or the cursor oddness. I think I'll have to try the purge-and-reinstall to see if it cleans those up. Nope, didn't work. Menus and cursor are still messed up. But at least I don't have the old-style config files laying around any more... -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: Journaling file system
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 12:25:34PM -0500, Warren A. Layton wrote: [Journaling FileSystems under Linux...] There is also GFS (Global File System) from the University of Michigan (I think...I could be some other university). Of all of these, I think ReiserFS is the most mature but (IMHO) Ext3 looks the most promising (you can switch from ext2 tow ext3 and back again without too much trouble, or so I've been told). but, ext3 doesn't use a B-Tree, afaik... hmm, yes, switching to ext3 is quiet simple. you only need a kernel with the ext3 patches, then you've to create the journaling file in your file system and boot your kernel with a parameter journal=... to use the journal.. moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */
Re: Journaling file system
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 09:50:00AM +, steve doerr wrote: Does anyone know if there is a workable journaling file system for Debian yet? Thanks for any input. Steve A good source of info for all Linux High-Availability projects is www.linux-ha.org ... hope it helps. -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key fingerprint = DCAF 2B9D CC9B 96FA 7A6D AAF4 2D61 77C5 7ECE C1D2 Public Key available upon request, or at wwwkeys.pgp.net and others. pgpn0IQC6Hc2P.pgp Description: PGP signature
Such few Open Hardware periphals?
Dear debianists, I want to purchase some hardware for my computers. Because all perihperals need to run under Debian, I downloaded the latest Hardware-compatibility HOWTO and I checked the Open Hardware section in Debian's site. But I became astonished when I saw just four companies. The last update is from October 1998, so it's the site very outdated or almost all the hardware companies still are as nice as always? Thanks for your attention, Ignasi _ \___||/ \__| els fills abandonats |___/ \_||__/ from BarcelonaCatalonia ___ Do You Yahoo!? Achetez, vendez! À votre prix! Sur http://encheres.yahoo.fr
Re: Eterm upgrade
It's a start! :) On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 12:42:01PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: Dave Sherohman said: I actually managed to get Home/End working by installing the latest ncurses-base (which includes updated terminfo files), but haven't managed to find anything to fix the menus or the cursor oddness. I think I'll have to try the purge-and-reinstall to see if it cleans those up. Nope, didn't work. Menus and cursor are still messed up. But at least I don't have the old-style config files laying around any more... -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+ -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key fingerprint = DCAF 2B9D CC9B 96FA 7A6D AAF4 2D61 77C5 7ECE C1D2 Public Key available upon request, or at wwwkeys.pgp.net and others. pgpAPzlXdC89e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: System locked and now complains at startup about modules
On 5 Aug 2000, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: pelleg Pentium II 400 Mhz, pelleg Motherboard DFI PA61 ATX (VIA Apollo Pro 133 chipset - 693/596b) my current board has that chipset i believe (asus cuv4x) pelleg (Absolutely nothing on-board) good pelleg Award BIOS pelleg 64 Mb RAM (no ECC...) pelleg Video Card Diamond SpeedStar A50 (SiS 6326 AGP, not on-board) i would replace that if it was mine, although SIS is getting better support all the time. I stick mainly to Nvidia/Matrox/3Dfx cards under linux these days. Also have run the i810. pelleg HD: Western Digital Caviar, 13.5 Gb, 7200 RPM pelleg heard bad things about western digital, make sure to turn DMA *OFF* when using it or you may get problems see: http://kt.linuxcare.com/kernel-traffic/latest.epl#2 pelleg With stable kernels, I use ATA/33 pelleg With unstable kernels, I managed to get a patch to use ATA/66. ok... pelleg (I still didn't completely rule out ATA66, but... The system locked pelleg with a stable kernel (and hence, with ATA33) yeah. pelleg BTW, I have checked to see if I could find anything related to pelleg problems with this chipset and HD, but found nothing. see the link above about the hdd. it may not be the source of the problems but it can be the source of many(more serious?) ones. pelleg Hm, waht about the fact that it only happened after this lock? I pelleg thought that perhaps this could mean filesystem corruption... that might be the last thing in the log, i dont know how active your system is. wish you had another box on a network with that one to see if you could telnet into it or ping it or something. pelleg Nothing there... Actually, it jumps from Aug, 4 to Aug, 21:50 (when I pelleg resetted the machine). And the messages begin with the new pelleg boot... Nothing in the period in which it crashed. sounds like hardware then. pelleg I got it from a cousin... It's a Leadership mouse, made in China. pelleg Ordinary 3-button PS/2 mouse, it seems... leadership, havent heard of em but its possible it could cause problems if its not totally compliant witht he PS/2 protocol it could be flaky. change mice and see if it still happens. pelleg But could this be a problem? I mean... Building the package myself? I pelleg was confident that the same package compiled by the mantainer could be pelleg compiled here... You know... We can even do that automatically with pelleg apt-get... :-) something could cause X to freeze, ive never had it happen with a windowmanager though, i could always CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE(have you tried this?) if something in X crashes, 3Dfx glide has caused serious hangs and forced reboots but thats about it. pelleg Actually, I did use 4.0.1 for a few days, and it didn't crash... But pelleg it may have been too little time. pelleg pelleg (I thought this could be a reasonable option, since the code is a lot pelleg different from that of 3.3.6) it might, im more concerned with how you get the system back to normal after installing XF864.01 (if you want to go back to 3.3.6) it may be difficult to get it working properly again(that may be part of the current problem as well) nate ::: http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:48am up 18 days, 18:15, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: VMware with potato - any issues?
runnin it just fine, on 2.2.16 nate On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Rick Macdonald wrote: rickma rickma I'm just about to try VMware on my potato system to run Win 95 or 98. rickma rickma Are there any problems to know about? rickma rickma ...RickM... rickma rickma rickma -- rickma Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null rickma ::: http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:48am up 18 days, 18:15, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: System locked and now complains at startup about modules
:: On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 14:30:35 +0200, David Reviejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Two weeks ago I tried xmms with the same result: a locked system; I think this app is broken. Don't use it (try freeamp), and see what happen. Hmmm... I'll begin using FreeAmp. But I think the system locked once without xmms. Anyway... I'll wait and see what happens. But at startup, it now makes strange complaints, like: modprobe: can't locate module # modprobe: can't locate module are modprobe: can't locate module with But these are parts of commented lines in /etc/modules!!! Ok, after a new upgrade with dselect, the problem was gone... I think modutils had some bug! So, the -- Jeronimo Pellegrini Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~jeronimo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: System locked and now complains at startup about modules
:: On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:11:39 -0700 (PDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi Nate... pelleg Motherboard DFI PA61 ATX (VIA Apollo Pro 133 chipset - 693/596b) my current board has that chipset i believe (asus cuv4x) I think I heard some not so nice things about VIA chipsets... Like, poor CPU performance when doing UDMA, and other problems. pelleg Award BIOS pelleg 64 Mb RAM (no ECC...) pelleg Video Card Diamond SpeedStar A50 (SiS 6326 AGP, not on-board) i would replace that if it was mine, although SIS is getting better support all the time. I stick mainly to Nvidia/Matrox/3Dfx cards under linux these days. Also have run the i810. Yes, I've been thinking about that. The card has * Mb on it, but can use 4 only... :-/ pelleg HD: Western Digital Caviar, 13.5 Gb, 7200 RPM pelleg heard bad things about western digital, make sure to turn DMA *OFF* when using it or you may get problems see: http://kt.linuxcare.com/kernel-traffic/latest.epl#2 see the link above about the hdd. it may not be the source of the problems but it can be the source of many(more serious?) ones. Hm, thanks. As far as I could see, mine is not blacklisted (yet)... It's a WD153BA. I've used it for a few months, and got no problems. But it's good toknow that I shouldn't put a Maxtor sharing IRQs with it... that might be the last thing in the log, i dont know how active your system is. wish you had another box on a network with that one to see if you could telnet into it or ping it or something. I keep it on all the time... And use it all day long. But the modules problem was actually a bug in modutils... It's fixed now. pelleg I got it from a cousin... It's a Leadership mouse, made in China. pelleg Ordinary 3-button PS/2 mouse, it seems... leadership, havent heard of em but its possible it could cause problems if its not totally compliant witht he PS/2 protocol it could be flaky. change mice and see if it still happens. Yes. I'll try a few things: - switch from xmms to freemp; - then, from ps/2 to serial; - then, from X 3.3.6 to 4.0.1... pelleg But could this be a problem? I mean... Building the package myself? I pelleg was confident that the same package compiled by the mantainer could be pelleg compiled here... You know... We can even do that automatically with pelleg apt-get... :-) something could cause X to freeze, ive never had it happen with a windowmanager though, i could always CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE(have you tried this?) if something in X crashes, 3Dfx glide has caused serious hangs and forced reboots but thats about it. When it hangs here, the keyboard just won't work anymore. Not even caps lock... Or the SysRq key (I've compiled that thing into the kernel hoping it'd help) it might, im more concerned with how you get the system back to normal after installing XF864.01 (if you want to go back to 3.3.6) it may be difficult to get it working properly again(that may be part of the current problem as well) I backed up /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 And held all updates of packages that could install anything on /usr/X11R6... But I think that if you compile it yourself, you can install it in a different directory (/usr/X11R6.4); then you could even keep installing stuff under the old /usr/X11R6 and just include /usr/X11R6.4 in your PATH... nate J. -- Jeronimo Pellegrini Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~jeronimo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: @home network
Wow! You guys have been extremely helpful. Thank-you everyone who responded. From what I gather, it would be best to get another NIC and use my Debian box as a gateway. Since I only have one computer to attach to it (for now), I'll first try without a hub. If this doesn't work, I'll get a hub like everyone suggested. Thanks also for pointing out what programs to use. Since my knowledge of networking is fairly small, I have some reading to do :) Best regards, Jaron From: Tom Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jaron Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: @home network Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:38:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [216.234.231.6] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBB54F38400A9D820F3B9D8EAE706054D0; Fri Aug 04 22:39:16 2000 Received: (qmail 15039 invoked by uid 38); 5 Aug 2000 05:38:56 - Received: (qmail 15007 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2000 05:38:55 - Received: from prognet.com (205.219.198.1) by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 5 Aug 2000 05:38:55 - Received: from powertux.md.prognet.com ([172.22.102.241])by prognet.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) with ESMTP id WAA20259;Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:39:11 -0700 (PDT) From bounce-debian-user Fri Aug 04 22:40:10 2000 X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/101690 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just got an @home cablemodem last weekend and I've been running ipmasq for quite some time over a normal dialup. The short answer is that you can connect as many computers through your service as you like, using only one IP address, and you don't really need two ethernet cards in any of the computers (although I highly recommend it). First off, @home (supposedly) uses standard DHCP to assign your computer its net parameters (IP, gateway, netmask, DNS, and domain name). I have not been able to get DHCP working here using either windows or linux, so I cannot speak for their DHCP. However, I can tell you that their very first solution to DHCP problems is to give you your static IP address. It seems their DHCP service is none too reliable to start with. In practice, the DHCP only exists to make it easier for the customer because they don't need to remember any numbers. Just click on automatic and off you go. Every customer has a preassigned IP and they will always get that same IP assigned by DHCP. So just use the settings from your windows box directly if you can't get DHCP working on your linux box. Pay careful attention to the netmask though -- 24.*.*.* defaults to 255.0.0.0 (class A) in most software, but they want you to use 255.255.255.0 (class C). Now, on to the fun stuff. As you should have guessed from the above, I am going to describe how to setup your linux box as a gateway to the net using the @home service. If you want to continue using the windows box as the gateway, go check out some of the windows software that is available for this purpose. There are several free, shareware, and commercial solutions. The most widely known is probably WinGate. But none will be nearly as flexible or give you as much satisfaction as using linux as your gateway. :) I'm going to explain things in some detail so just skip over what you are already familiar with. Conceptually, you want a network that looks like this (view in a monospaced font): -- | CM |-- To the net -- | --- | | | - - - | A | | B | | C | - - - CM is your cablemodem and A, B, C are computers on your network. This setup would require three IP addresses though. Not only do they charge extra for more IP addresses, all your computers are now exposed to the net, multiplying your security concerns considerably. Let's insert a gateway machine here, GW, that can direct traffic between your internal network and the real world using only one external IP address. This is called IP masquerading or, in the more general sense NAT (Network Address Translation): -- -- | GW |---| CM |-- To the net -- -- | --- | | | - - - | A | | B | | C | - - - For the sake of simplicity, we will assume that GW has two ethernet cards. The one connected to the ethernet with A, B and C (call it eth0) will use a private internal IP address and the other one (call it eth1) will use your public @home IP address. A good IP address range to use for a private intranet is 192.168.1.*. This is one portion of the officially designated private intranet addressing space and you will never see these IP addresses on the net. So we will
Re: Journaling file system
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 11:57:36AM -0500, Phil Brutsche wrote: Note that out of all of these, only reiserfs has been ported to the 2.4.0-testX series. Actually, xfs has been ported too. I just saw on freshmeat an announcement of xfs for linux-2.4.0-test5. So it is. I think they did that on que :) Thaks for pointing that out... The website for the project is here: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ And for the brave, the patches can be downloaded from here: ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/download/ For those looking for a journaling filesystem right now I would go for Reiserfs (http://devlinux.com/projects/reiserfs/). It has had quiet a bit of testing, and it just barely missed inclusion in 2.4. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstien
upgrading libgtk1.2/gkrellm from frozen
I want to run the latest gkrellm from potato. What's the best way to upgrade libgtk1.2? Can you put woody in sources.list, upgrade libgtk1.2, then reedit sources.list? In short, how do you run the latest gkrellm (and thus use the latest themes) from frozen? -- David S. Jackson[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= You may already be a loser. -- Form letter received by Rodney Dangerfield.
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/08/2000 (03:58) : add this to /etc/profile: eval `/usr/bin/lesspipe` , source it, and then less whateveryouwant.deb. Cool, isn't it? Works with .rpm, .tar.gz, .zip too. Doesn't work for me. Odd. -- Preben Randhol - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, Isaac Asimov
Re: ip masq with 2.3.x kernels?
ipchains will be support on 2.4 and 2.3 series (with is going to 2.4) anyway netfilter like be the future. Just take a look at: http://netfilter.kernelnotes.org/ At 15:44 04/08/00 +, Joseph de los Santos wrote: Hello, I am looking for some documentation on how to compile kernels 2.3.x with ip masq support. The current HOWTO doesn't cover those kernels yet. Thanks for any advice. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
MySQL and root password
Hi, I'm having a hard time even getting Mysql to change the root password the way that debian recommends. when I type : mysql -u root mysql I get the response : ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: NO) Now, this happens when I am the normal user or root... same messgae. This is also off a fresh install of MySQL... So what am I doing wrong? Thanks for your time, Jack
Re: ip masq with 2.3.x kernels?
On 05-Aug-2000 Alberto wrote: ipchains will be support on 2.4 and 2.3 series (with is going to 2.4) anyway netfilter like be the future. Just take a look at: http://netfilter.kernelnotes.org/ I used the ipchains kernel module with the 2.3 series, while I got iptables working. I compiled ipchains and iptables as modules so I could switch easily from ipchains to iptables. -- Andrew
MySQL and root password
Sorry.. I found it. Got it working just fine now. Have a good day, Jack
Re: only running one emacs..
On 5 August 2000 at 17:06, Jonas Moberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I got emacs running and type emacs somefile, I'd like the emacs I already got running to open the file, not start a new emacs (atleast if I'm not in X). How? You want to use emacsserver. Try the info system or the web for documentation. Chris -- Christopher Tessone Computer Programmer Illinois Mathematics Science Academy Learning-at-a-Distance Program http://www.imsa.edu/~tessone/ GnuPG Key: http://www.imsa.edu/~tessone/mykey.asc
Re: System locked and now complains at startup about modules
On 5 Aug 2000, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: pelleg pelleg Motherboard DFI PA61 ATX (VIA Apollo Pro 133 chipset - 693/596b) pelleg my current board has that chipset i believe (asus cuv4x) pelleg pelleg I think I heard some not so nice things about VIA chipsets... pelleg Like, poor CPU performance when doing UDMA, and other problems. 100% scsi !@ woohoo. ide is slow in any system. pelleg Hm, thanks. As far as I could see, mine is not blacklisted pelleg (yet)... It's a WD153BA. pelleg I've used it for a few months, and got no problems. But it's good pelleg toknow that I shouldn't put a Maxtor sharing IRQs with it... ok then its prob not the hdd.. pelleg But the modules problem was actually a bug in modutils... It's fixed pelleg now. oh, cool. pelleg Yes. I'll try a few things: pelleg pelleg - switch from xmms to freemp; pelleg - then, from ps/2 to serial; pelleg - then, from X 3.3.6 to 4.0.1... thats good, what kind of soundcard? i dont think a program like xmms or freeamp would hang the system but the sound driver may puke and cause such a problem. pelleg I backed up /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 pelleg And held all updates of packages that could install anything on pelleg /usr/X11R6... thats good. pelleg But I think that if you compile it yourself, you can install it in a pelleg different directory (/usr/X11R6.4); then you could even keep pelleg installing stuff under the old /usr/X11R6 and just include pelleg /usr/X11R6.4 in your PATH... thats good, i remember compiling 3.3.4/3.3.5 from source for slink even tho it worked great i didnt back anything up so it made deb upgrades quite difficult(i just reinstalled w/potato on another drive) nate ::: http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1:11pm up 18 days, 20:39, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.01
Re: some tcsh questions
Jonas == Jonas Moberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jonas I've (after many years of use..) been looking up what my Jonas shell actually can do for me to make my life easier. I've Jonas been going thru the features of tcsh (first shell I ever Jonas used, but I'm determined to go thru bash and zsh or ksh Jonas (when time permits that is..)). plug subject=zsh Do yourself a favor and try zsh first... even before tcsh (in other words: get rid of that), but certainly before bash. Go with the package in potato, or better yet, with 3.1.9* in woody. I'd bet you will *not* regret it... /plug Jonas This is something I've been looking for a long time, being Jonas able to print the current process in the xterm-title (be it Jonas top or joe or whatever). Not that this example works of Jonas course ;).. But why? Is it depending on the window-manager? If you tell us what WM you use... but think about it, the title bar is decoration, which is done by the WM (if you start without a valid WM, you get borderless windows... not window title). So it might well be. Though I don't know of any WM that doesn't... at least both Window Maker and Sawfish are confirmed to be able to. (I ran WMaker and do full GNOME now (Helix got me ;-)) Jonas I've read the xterm-title mini-howto and it simply says Jonas it's hard to do it in any other shell than zsh (the Jonas author welcomes any suggestions). Another reason for choosing zsh ;-) Jonas Just for your info, I can't seem to get these other Jonas xterm-titles using cwdcmd to work either. I'm not so good Jonas that I understand what ^[]2; and ^G does. Stupid question: you know that those ^ thingies are control codes, right? Now I don't know whether tcsh understand ^[ (two ascii chars) to be ESC automagically or not... make sure those are one char (in Emacs or jed, type ctrl-q and then the char (esc or ctrl-g). vi? I don't even have one one this system ;-) I have this construct in my zsh PROMPT: ]2;%M:%~ Note how ^[ and ^G are not two characters each, but one. Works perfectly... even when closing an ssh connection, the host got restored. [...] Jonas Of course, if you got any solutions or suggestions for bash Jonas or other shells feel free to share them.. ;) I'm glad I did. ;-) HTHS. Jonas While I'm at it, I'll get another tcsh issue of my Jonas chest. Is there any possibility to get TAB to do the the Jonas tcsh list-glob function (lists global patterns) aswell as Jonas the commands-, dir-, var-, env-completion that it does by Jonas default? Don't know what this means... I only know plug subject=zshzsh's completion system coolr0x/cool/plug. ;-)) Jonas Thanks! What for? ;-) Bye, J -- Jürgen A. Erhard eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (GERMANY) 0721 27326 MARS: http://members.tripod.com/Juergen_Erhard/mars_index.html Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book; inside of a dog, it's very dark. -- Groucho Marx pgpycPgW3orVH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: System locked and now complains at startup about modules
:: On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:15:22 -0700 (PDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: pelleg Yes. I'll try a few things: pelleg pelleg - switch from xmms to freemp; pelleg - then, from ps/2 to serial; pelleg - then, from X 3.3.6 to 4.0.1... thats good, what kind of soundcard? i dont think a program like xmms or freeamp would hang the system but the sound driver may puke and cause such a problem. This is a SB 16, ISA... Plug and Pray. FreeAmp didn't hang the system yet, but it does segfault sometimes. I'll get the version from potato and see if it's any better. Can this really be a problem? I bought this soundcard some time ago... And indeed, it ws near the time when I got the new mouse, etc... nate J. -- Jeronimo Pellegrini Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~jeronimo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: displaying binary files
Thanks Sven. But I was hoping for a script that would ask some sort of a question like this file is in binary form..would you like to see it anyway? y/n something in that regard...and it should be global too. From: Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: john smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: displaying binary files Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 01:09:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 file comes in very handy for this. Recognises pretty many file formats. Try it. Sven -- I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Fetchmail isn't working the way it should.
Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried 'fetchall'? Worked for me. I tried it and it didn't solve the problem but that's not surprising when I tell you why. Realisation suddenly dawned! I had been editing my user copy of .fetchmailrc and although these had an effect if I ran Fetchmail from the command line it had no effect when Fetchmail was running as a demon because the demon is run as root! When I finally thought to look in root's .fetchmailrc I found that it included 'keep' from previous testing runs. How embarrasing. Sorry all. All is now working as it should. Barry Samuels
Re: displaying binary files
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 08:56:41PM +, john smith wrote: Thanks Sven. But I was hoping for a script that would ask some sort of a question like this file is in binary form..would you like to see it anyway? y/n something in that regard...and it should be global too. You might be interested in the see command from 'run-mailcap'. Basically the /etc/mailcap file has a bunch of mime-types and an associated command to run. There's usually a test for X via the $DISPLAY variable. I think it's in the metamail package. -- MegaHAL quote: I think a blowpipe is a marijuana cigarrette. It'll get you deleted!
Re: displaying binary files
How about 'file finlename'? - Original Message - From: john smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 3:56 PM Subject: Re: displaying binary files Thanks Sven. But I was hoping for a script that would ask some sort of a question like this file is in binary form..would you like to see it anyway? y/n something in that regard...and it should be global too. From: Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: john smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: displaying binary files Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 01:09:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 file comes in very handy for this. Recognises pretty many file formats. Try it. Sven -- I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: displaying binary files
Hi John On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 08:56:41PM +, john smith wrote: Thanks Sven. But I was hoping for a script that would ask some sort of a question like this file is in binary form..would you like to see it anyway? y/n something in that regard...and it should be global too. In that case I can't help you; dont know of anything like this. Maybe someone else does? Sven
Re: displaying binary files
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, john smith wrote: Thanks Sven. But I was hoping for a script that would ask some sort of a question like this file is in binary form..would you like to see it anyway? y/n something in that regard...and it should be global too. From: Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: john smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: displaying binary files Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 01:09:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 file comes in very handy for this. Recognises pretty many file formats. Try it. Sven -- I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License. Don't know when and where this thread began. So this might be irrelevant. I suppose you could write a wrapper for viewing, but MOST automatically uses the two column format used in binary editors with dots for 8 bit chars when it comes upon a binary file. Doesn't LESS simply replaces 8 bit chars with a dot. I'm not sure but lynx might be able to be setup for 7 bits the 128 column being knocked off, displaying the 7 bit char left, I seem to remember this but I am not really sure. To tell the truth I don't use the console, didn't know the display was destroyed when viewing binary files - really ? - no way around this? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
first make sure you lesspipe on your system run 'which lesspipe'. then put eval $(lesspipe) in your .bash_profile or in the appropriate login script for your shell. On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 09:19:05PM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/08/2000 (03:58) : add this to /etc/profile: eval `/usr/bin/lesspipe` , source it, and then less whateveryouwant.deb. Cool, isn't it? Works with .rpm, .tar.gz, .zip too. Doesn't work for me. Odd. -- Preben Randhol - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, Isaac Asimov -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- As a general rule, if you have trouble with the binary system, then probably it is because you do not really understand the decimal system ... R.W. Hamming
Re: displaying binary files
File would work..if only users would try to file something first before trying to display it with that accursed CAT command... -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
setting up x terminal workstation
Can someone point me to some sites that explain how to get an older computer working as a remote x-term/workstation. Here is what I currently have: 1 486DX/2 50 laptop w/ 20 megs - This has a complete potato install with a working X server. I would like to convert this laptop into a remote X workstation with everything possible (X wise) running off of my local server. How can I do this? Thanks, Chris
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
Paul Seelig wrote: kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: And that GNU Midnight Commander (aka mc aka gmc) had a similar functionality. This is a tool which, as I understand, was adapted from Novell's Midnight Commander file browsing utility. It escapes me why you seem to be associating the GNU MC with Novell? GNU MC, which i know and use since some five years, IMHO never had any relations with Novell. It's look and feel were based on the Norton Commander of DOS fame, but has surpassed it in functionality since years now. It's a file manager on steroids, as a console tool. The Midnight Commander console version for me is the most imprescindible tool on any *NIX. The GNOME offspring is a far cry from it regarding functionality. The console MC can be considered the Swiss Linux Army Chainsaw. ;-) gmc is on the way out anyway, the console version will continue on though. For GNOME, Eazel's Nautilus file manager will replace gmc. I thought from the beginning that trying to make mc into a graphical file manager while simultaneously continuing with the console version was a mistake. For one thing, it has led to a fork in (console) mc development, something which I hope is temporary. -- It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. - Voltaire Ed C.
Re: holly crap!
On Aug 03, 2000, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:13:04PM -0700, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: Help, PLEASE HELP I've done somethig very bad.. I did: rm * /var/spool/fax/outgoing I was user not root (little sigh), but I lost a lot of data.. Is there ANYWAY to recover all the lost files in /home/me ??? Remount the affected partition read-only (yet another reason to create multiple system partitions, BTW). This will prevent any further changes to the system. Gnu Midnight Commander (mc or gmc) is alleged to have some data recovery potential. You might want to investigate this. Midnight Commander can recover deleted files. The files that can be recovered are displayed with numbers instead of names, so all you have to do is undelete and rename. Generally speaking, file deletion is a pretty definitive act under Linux. There are data recovery firms which specialize in retrieving lost data. If the data are sufficiently important to you, you may want to get a quote. Backups are good. Early and often. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0
Corel Linux--your opinions pls
Hi all Any one have an opinion, good or bad, re: Corel Linux? I have just obtained a copy and don't know much about it. I have been using freeBSD and Slack for a desktop only box. It appears to be targeted at people like me, who only have one system as a desktop unit. TIA, Jeff
Re: Corel Linux--your opinions pls
Why Corel when you have Debian? Corel is based on Debian, but not at all good like it. Hi all Any one have an opinion, good or bad, re: Corel Linux? Marko
Re: MC
David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoting Christopher Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): As an ex Rred Hat user, my midnight commander left me in the current working directory when I F10 out of it. The Debian version dumps me back to the original directory. Is there any way to convert my Debian potato MC to the redhat style? man mc, and look at the -P option and the script given there. Interestingly, the man page says: Please don't add verbatim copies of the function definitions below. Source the files tively /usr/lib/mc/bin/mc.csh (tcsh users) instead. This way you will not need to change your profiles if the function definitions are improved, provided that you don't compile MC with a different prefix. /usr/lib/mc/bin/mc.sh (bash and zsh users) respec- tively /usr/lib/mc/bin/mc.csh (tcsh users) instead. This way you will not need to change your profiles if the function definitions are improved, provided that you don't compile MC with a different prefix. But my potato machine doesn't have any /usr/lib/mc/bin/mc.sh. In fact, I can't find any mc.sh or mc.csh anywhere on the machine. So one can get the desired effect by copying the shell function, but it doesn't seem possible to follow the instructions given in the man pages. Does it warrant a bug report? Documentation should accurately reflect the system. --Miguel
problem with xmodmap
I'm trying to get my Intellimouse Explorer working with XFree 4.0 My XF86Config file has this: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse Option Buttons 7 Option Resolution 200 Option ZAxisMapping 6 7 EndSection I think this works well, but my problem arrives when I put this on my .xsession file: xmodmap -e pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5 With this stuff I can't login with kdmit kicks me out!! How can I fix this?
Re: Corel Linux--your opinions pls
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 06:17:09PM -0700, Jeff Roediger wrote: Hi all Any one have an opinion, good or bad, re: Corel Linux? I have just obtained a copy and don't know much about it. I have been using freeBSD and Slack for a desktop only box. It appears to be targeted at people like me, who only have one system as a desktop unit. If you have been running Slack and FreeBSD, you probably won't like Corel Linux very much. It is made for non-technical people from the Windows world. You would probably prefer Debian (Corel Linux is based on Debian). Warren -- In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded. --Terry Pratchett Warren A. Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: D287 F5D6 EFED 8851 AC3F AB8A 4CFF 507A D904 4869 pgpWalnnNf0SQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: setting up x terminal workstation
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 06:57:43PM -0500, Chris Hoover wrote Can someone point me to some sites that explain how to get an older computer working as a remote x-term/workstation. Here is what I currently have: 1 486DX/2 50 laptop w/ 20 megs - This has a complete potato install with a working X server. I would like to convert this laptop into a remote X workstation with everything possible (X wise) running off of my local server. How can I do this? Easy. Get X configured locally (so you can use startx to go into graphics mode, and have a working mouse cursor). Remove XDM from your 486, if you have it installed; install it on your server (which doesn't need a working X server) if it isn't already. On the server, edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess so it contains lines like *.localnet *.localnet CHOOSER BROADCAST substituting the name of your network for 'localnet' (or, the name of your client for '*.localnet'). Don't just use *, and remember that X traffic is unencrypted: don't do this if you don't trust your local network, don't use a wildcard that matches untrusted machines, and don't use a wildcard that matches machines the path to which includes untrusted networks or machines. The first line says that XDM should allow the specified machines to login, and the second allows the specified machines to run a chooser (which is irrelevant, if you only have one workstation to login to). If you've had to make any changes, run # /etc/init.d/xdm reload so that XDM sees them. You can use GDM or WDM instead, but then you need to find and appropriately edit their equivalent of XDM's Xaccess file. Run this command as root on your 486: # /usr/bin/X11/X :0 -query server.localnet /var/log/x0.server.log substituting the name of your server for 'server.localnet'; you should get an XDM prompt from your server on your local display. If you have more than one server that you might want to login to, you can use this command instead: # /usr/bin/X11/X :0 -indirect server.localnet /var/log/x0.server.log This should get your server to present you with a menu of hosts to choose from. Note that currently this doesn't work if the server is running gdm or wdm. To make it more permanent, add a line to /etc/inittab like this: x0:3:respawn:/usr/bin/X11/X :0 -query server.localnet This sets the local Xserver to run in runlevel 3; test it with # telinit 3 and, if it works, you can change :3: to :2: in inittab to make it start in Debian's default runlevel. If you're already running a local Xserver on your 486, change the X :0 to X :1 (or whatever) so that they each use a different display. Hope this helps, John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdt.net.au/~john Debian Linux admin support:technical services
